Are You Making This Mistake Before Applying A Ceramic Coating? Find Out Now!
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- Are You Making This Mistake Before Applying A Ceramic Coating? Find Out Now! Are you prepping your car's paint correctly before applying a ceramic coating? In this video, we dive deep into the importance of thorough paint preparation to ensure the best results.
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Absolutely. Would love to have the degreasing tabs.
Thanks Pan! I've been hesitant to apply a ceramic to my car because I was afraid of prepping it wrong. This was just what I needed!
I feel you buddy I feel you. That’s why Mr. Pan is the best explaining the process
Don’t worry too much. Most of your consumer products aren’t “lifetime”. Mess it up, at worse you wait a couple years, buff it off and start again. 😊
Great video Pan, I have been a GYEON Certified Detailer since 2015 in the UK, now also USA GYEON Certified with another business, so massive amounts of experience with GYEONS coatings,
The decreasing stage before applying a coating is critical!
I have been using the decreasing tabs for two years now since they were released to Certified Detailers,
Ths process is very effective, the solution itself is nice to use, its like washing your car with a Slick high quality shampoo,
only downside is the additional time added as of course the vehicle needs to be dried fully before you can coat, all water traps blown out and the paint given a final wipe with PREP,
it is worth the effort however as the coating can make a perfect bond with the bare paint and also much easier to apply with no oil mixing with the coating.
Interested to see what you think of the process using the degrease tabs.
Richard
Thank you, Pan! :) I used to super lazy on Saturdays and sleep until noon(if not later) Ever since I started watching your videos last year, I wake up at 7AM every Saturday and wait for your videos to be posted.... then started foaming, washing, blowing, wiping, dressing, polishing, and pretty much every kind of pampering to my car. On second though... thank a lot for ruining my relaxing Saturdays! 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
very true!
Tabs a great idea, gives peace of mind
This is the exact video I needed. Wanted to do my first ceramic/ graphene coating but was always worried about each step. Not that I don’t know how to do it but just want it to go on right the first time but needed a little more info in my head. Also I don’t always have room to do it in our shop. Thanks pan for giving more information on the process! 🔥
I would be 1000% interested in the degreaser tabs!! Such a great idea
I agree.
Another great video from one of my favorite content creators. Thanks Pan
I like this format in explaining things in detail. 🇨🇦👍👍
Great video Pan. Looking forward to ur testing videos of this process
Post polishing, I wash, degrease with various chemicals and use Deionised water.
I dry with new towels, then do a few rounds of prep spray. There's alot more to it. Many don't realise how much work is involved to actually prep a vehicle properly.
The timing of this video is perfect Pan! I bought a new vehicle in January and the weather in Southwestern Ontario looks to be getting close to start detailing. I have been saving all your videos, and making notes so I’m prepared to have a good season. Looking forward to getting my winter tires off next week and a good weather run to get started.
Very timely advice, Pan! 👍
Thanks for this. Great video and information as always. I'm planning on buying a car in the next few months, and will DIY ceramic coat it. I feel like I've got a plan worked out and can do it successfully, but it's great to see the steps and get these tips to help get myself ready to go for it.
Another Pan video, good day to start Saturday. Cheers
Pan, post-polish washing works well. I ceramic coated my second vehicle a couple weeks ago. De-con'd/compounded/polished one afternoon and ran out of time to fininsh the job. Next morning, re-washed with Griot's Surface Prep foam before IPA/distilled H2O wipedown(truck sat outdoors overnight, so to remove new dust) and dried. Diamond Protech 36 went on smoothly, looks great, and has worked well through several rains since. Thanks for all the info!
Thanks for another great video. Happy Easter to you and your family Pan.
Love your deep dives Pan and this deep dive is really good. I can see the act of fully ensuring the polishing oils are fully removed by using hot water and a degreaser. A lot of soaps have a sheeting protection built into them which makes me think Dawn may leave behind protection no one sees because it sheets. The drying towel would definitely have to be free from other protection left behind from previous uses. I can see companies developing a hot water system to fully ensure the paint is clean. I would if Forensic detailing comes out with a video on this subject now? Thank you for a great video and I hope everyone is well!
Hi Pan thanks for the great and informative video. I like many other people have learned so much from your videos , i hope you have a great weekend
Thanks Pan!
Great info..
About two years ago I did my own prep and CSL coat on a car and it worked out great.
Despite all my research I added my own step, a second decon soap wash, right after final polish and before using Gyeon Prep.
It just seemed right to do that second decon before the Gyeon Prep.
My result, and your video here, has vindicated doing that extra step.
Great video.
Hi Pan! Yet another informative auto-detailing video from you! Thanks for posting!! Glad that you did this video cause I did my 1st graphene coating today! I used the Graphene Flex wax from Turtle Wax. My compound was from Meguiar's, but it worked!!! My car is gleaming!!! I think that I did everything correctly, as I rewatched several of your videos and even took notes. It took me SEVERAL hours to complete. Had to do everything by hand. Polisher broke. It wasn't a high-end one anyway... Still, I'm elated about my results!!! Exhausted. Should get great rest tonight!! Happy Easter!!!
Awesome video and content good friend
Hi Pan, i have been using Dr, Beasley NSP lines before ceramic coating! You also
reviewed this product. I have used it with Cerakoate professional ceramic on a 2003 Honda Accord with 405k miles. So far so good. Coating is doing great.
Great content Pan.
This is a great message to the industry.
As mentioned if you’re using a company’s system from initial wash to coating you will obtain the best results.
Many detailers like to mix and match. Sometimes this leads to great results, other times, catastrophic failures.
Knowing what your polish leaves behind is important in knowing how to ensure that the surface is ready for coating.
A quality APC can also be used prior to the application of the panel prep. It can be as simple as spraying the APC on a towel, wiping on, and wiping off.
I'm a Gyeon Certified Detailer and I can highly recommend just 1-step polishing your car with a DA polisher, blue or orange Lake country HDO pad and Gyeon Primer. This is a special polish made to be topped with a coating and will make application of the coating easier. Only Gyeon Prep is needed after Gyeon Primer.
Also maintenance is key. Wash your care with Gyeon Restartwash and use Gyeon CeramicDetailer of Gyeon Cure on a regular base.
When you notice water beading is getting bad then do a deepclean with Gyeon Iron and Gyeon Tar and you can always top the coating with Gyeon CanCoat. This is a great hydrophobic topper for your coating.
Question, lets say you have moderate swirls and light scratches on your car - should you 1 step polish, use gyeon prep, then gyeon primer and lastly gyeon prep again?
edit: or would gyeon primer be sufficient enough to remove the swirls and light scratches?
@@teamscoobydoo just use gyeon primer as your polish. Use it with a 21mm da machine and you will remove a lot of swirls
How long would the longevity of the coating be affected if I don’t use CanCoat, recently applied Nasiol Zr53 and it’s a minimum 3 year coating with no maintenance
Yes would love to be able to try the tabs!
Last polish step with CarPro Essence (also a prep step for coating), then finally the Eraser works well.🙂👍🏻
Big thanks Pan, always great and interesting to watch your videos!😍
been sitting on my synchro evo kit for about 2 months thanks for making this!
Yes, I definitely would love to use those tabs. I tried to do the best job possible on my paint I use I use their products all the time. I think they are the best out there.
Ive had the same issue when trying to apply vinyl spray so i used dish washing liquid but now you've explained it i can see what was actually happening even though i guessed as much , thanks again
Thank you
Pan
I am not a pro, just a Diy with my cars. Usually, use a panel wipe . It will be nice to have access to the tablets for a diy.
Great video Pan. The tablets from Gyeon are a very good idea and would be worth the little bit of extra time it takes i think. Hopefully they do release to everyone.
YES! for the degreasing tabs.
Good day, I think that if the degreasing tablets are so good they should sell them for everyone and if Gyeon doesn't want them, any product manufacturer should take note....
Good work Pan!!! I like those deepest dive... Well, what a news... I've been using normal IPA for years on my cars even on the one with a coating. Never have durability issues fro the coating. But, that car is garage kept most of the time so I'm not a good subject. I have to do the coated car another time shortly wit CarPro CQuartz UK 3,0 & Gliss. I will definitely buy CarPro IPA and try that added washing step with dishsoap before applying the IPA prep spray. I will not go through with the utilisation of the Gyeon degreasing tabs however. Keep up the good work and keep us informed of the latest developments for that subject... Frank!
Holy smokes I am happy to see this video I installed a gyeon coating and I had never heard of using a degreaser like this; I suspect my coating would have lasted substantially longer if I had degreased before using the IPA spray. thanks! I am excited to see if these tablets make it to the public I would love to have a dedicated tablet over a dish soap.
Phoenix EOD FOR THE WIN!
I use Gyeon for all my steps so for a degreasing tab would be fab! Like to use all the same brand.
Absolutely. Would love to have the de-greasing tabs.
I have dishwashing detergent I don't think that I would buy a pod. But I love the idea of doing a strip wash, prior to using paint prep. Great video😎
I'd use the degrease tabs if they were available!
Another great video Pan!!
Pan are you going to have any updates regarding cerakote
Yes definitely 💯 we want the degreaser tablet
Hello Pan.
Your video is spot on as I finished today the polishing on my car with CarPro Reflect and I'll apply tomorrow Geyon Mohs Evo.
I was thinking washing the car with Reset to remove the polish dust and oil. Then dry and use Erase just before coating.
What do you think ?
Thank you.
Hi Pan,
Great video, as always! It is a great reminders of the step to take.
I would definitely would like to have the degreaser from Gyeon!
I have to redo my Ceramic coating on my car, so would had been nice to have it.
I am going from GParency to Duraslic Extreme DS 1500 that gives me a better result.
This would be a great product for manufacturers to release for DIY detailer.
I've applied Carpro Dquartz Go to my car last weekend, spent all day preparing the car for Dquartz. My last step after polishing was Carpro Eraser. I did two coats of Dquartz. I noticed a rainbow film and sweating effects of which you normally only experience rainbow or sweating but not both. I was pretty thorough with Eraser. It seems ok. Its nearly been a week but unfortunately, I've got caught out in the rain tbis evening. Im sure the coating is fine, but if it fails I'll polish it all off and start over. The coating isn't too badly priced but its just the hassle of all that prep. Fingers crossed 🤞 It'll be ok.
Going to have to wait until after pollen season again.
Yeah, I left my red car outside one night and the next morning it was yellow!🤪🤪🤪
same here and most time after done hot as hell then lol
It would be great to get a step by step video showing how this is applied practically to a car. Love the videos!
Yes, Gyeon Prep is a great product. That's my go-to prep spray.
I didn't know about an alkaline final wash. I did have a coating fail on me early on. I'd be very interested in the Gyeon wash tablets. Why not do everything you can to ensure a good bond after all the hard work? Good video Pan. Thank you.
Another super informative video Pan. What are your thoughts on ensuring no dust on the surface? I keep my detail area very clean but I'm wondering about blowing air or something like the
COLORCORAL Cleaning Gel ?
Great and important video Pan. Also, I would like to be able to buy Gyeon degrease tabs. Cheers
Holy crap! I guess my amateur butt is more Pro than I thought!
I have always done the "Dawn Washing" right after paint corrections and blow dry. I used commercial automotive paint prep for the final step before application of coating. I'd much rather use the paint prep of the sealant manufacturer. You would think it would be the best for their particular product.
My motto is.............. Do it right! Do it once!
This is a new step in the process!!! Couldn't we use different citrus degreasers as well? Or say simple
green or just straight dawn? Then wash with a neural soap? Thanks again for the great info!!
Great video and very informative. My son is waiting on his brand new car to arrive and we plan on coating it ourselves. Is there any special or specific considerations with prep of a brand new car as far as applying the coating?
Cool. So now the debate can begin. Is Dawn, or Palmolive, or Meyer’s Clean Day, or Ivory, or some specialty brand like Seventh Generation the best dish soap? Do some include additives that are worse than others? And now you’re touching the vehicle MORE after the paint correction step. Once for the dish soap wash, again to dry the vehicle, and once for the prep spray wipe, so is there now more opportunity to introduce new scratches and marring?!? 😂 Whole new rabbit hole to go down. Thanks Gyeon!
Would be nice to see those degrease tablets in use. Could also be used as a pre-wash for road grime.
Yo Pan, Thanks for the deep dive and for sharing the info gathered during the dive. You just added another layer either with dish soap or the tablets to ensure all the oils are removed. I have followed previous instructions and these did not include an additional wash with dish washing liquid....but it all good as I rather invest 30 additional minutes of my time to ensure the customer walks away with the best possible ceramic coating application on his vehicle. I agree, it's all in the preparation; the ceramic application is straight forward. Thanks again!!
My pleasure! And just to be clear, if you are using Gyeon coatings, they clearly say in their instructions to wash the car after polishing the paint. They say, and I quote: "Always wash the car with a highly degreasing agent. Hot water and the use of a dishwashing liquid are recommended."
So Gyeon is one of those companies that understands that many paint polishes (from any brand) can leave behind residue and oils and fillers that IPA alone won't fully remove. So you'd wash, decon, machine polish, wash again with dishwashing liquid, then dry, then panel prep, then apply the coating.
@@PanTheOrganizer Appreciate the response...Thanks
About three years ago I applied Armour Shield IX on my IROC, my Silverado, and my wife's Trax. I only washed the cars and used a clay mitt--no DA polishing or any other mechanical prep or spray. The coating on my IROC continues to hold up pretty darn well--it should be noted that I only hand wash and used Turtle Wax Flex Wax as a drying agent. The Truck and Trax are in need of new coating this spring. Those two vehicles go through a car wash. I occasionaly apply a Ceramic Detail spray, though that seems to be too little too late. As for dishwashing soap, when I started driving in '77 I used Dawn. I continued to do so for may years. I did wax my cars every two or three weeks. (One of the best waxes--not by brand--was a tinted wax.) If I missed removing any of the wax, it was hard to see because the red coloring blended well with my "maroon" cars. Have a Blessed Easter, Pan.
Hi. Thanks for this great explanation. I have a question. I coated my 3 years old polestar 2 and I think coating is the best thing ever. However, I think the best way is to coat the car once it’s new right after delivery. I was wondering if you still need to polish a car that just came out of the factory. Thx
Gyeon let’s see some love to the little guy. Our money is just as green. Your directions are super clear to assist us in use of your products.
Funny that this video came up on youtube. I just got another car prepped this way. I allways wash the car after polishing. The car gets cleaned of all dust and degreased! After that I use ofc Gyeon Prep. This is old news but new for the majority of people😅 this is the right way to do it!
Very informative video pan . Ive been installing coatings for 5 yrs now . The evo line along with a couple other brands . I was using gyeon prep polish but the recommended wait/cure time for the polish made it difficult so i switched to dr Beasley's line of polishs . No wait time . Still wipe with gyeon prep after although says no need no matter what brand of coating i use . Never have had a issue .... so far . Would love to try the tabs . They look interesting. Take care .
Very informative and practical information Pan. Thank you for all your well versed videos for us that and we always looking forward to your chanel. I am confused which one would I used for my ceramic coat. If you could help me decide which one to use. The Gtechniq CSL- EXO V5 or the Adam’s advanced graphene? Your feedback will always be greatly appreciated. Thanks Pan!
I've always known that IPA solutions and panel prep sprays didn't have the degreasing power to remove waxes or sealants. That's why I always do a light polishing (not a full correction) before I apply a coating, even when the paint seems to be good condition.
So why should anybody need to buy any prep sprays then Right???????? Maybe your starting to realize some things But apparently you can now (only a one time exception) use Dawn soap since contrary to Pan other video it can dry up and damage plastics in the long run but now it won't in this one instance for some magical reason - Wake up people - Don't get me wrong (and likely Pan will remove this very soon anyway to protect the money making machine of detailing industry) some products are good and do good stuff but so many other products are added that do absolutely nothing but take people's money but hey if something went wrong with a product IT MUST BE YOUR FAULT FOR NOT FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS like this tim guy above chiming in with same rhetoric Pretty slick advertisement and full proof that we the companies can do no wrong. Not our fault you did not apply the stuff at a 45 degree angle while the wind must not be blowing stronger then 15km an hour from the west and if that was not the issue then it must be because of where you live geographically and on and on it goes. Good luck finding what the issue is when a product doesn't work but hey you can't blame us so keep buying more or other products to correct your mistake - at some point someone has to say "Just how stupid do you think people are" ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Great video Pan! I was getting ready to do a coating and had never heard of the added step of using dish soap after the polishing stage. In the case of CarPro products, is it warranted, especially if you are using all of their products, including Essence. Seems that stripping the “bonding” agents that CarPro claims with using Essence, may be defeating the purpose. I am not a professional detailer so I could be off base but thus far I have had pretty good luck with washing with Reset, paint decon, wash with Descale, compound, polish, paint prep, and apply… Do you have any specific thoughts on CarPro processes in general? Do they offer degreasing stage with their pro line?
I don’t understand why Gyeon would want to hold back on releasing a product? Thanks for the suggestions on preparing for a coating 👍✌️☮️
Wow great video and perfect timing!! Me and my guy at shop have had 3 coating fail that we did all the proper steps and we are wondering what happened all 3 cars have acid rain in clear that we had to heavy cut out and re coat!! Me and my associate are wondering what happened
Hi pan , another geat video , i was wondering if you have tried malco banana crème wax and if you did what do you think about it
Hi Pan, I've been watching your videos for the last couple of years now, I'm 20 and plan on opening a detail shop in the garage of my new house, I just have one question, what drain do you use for the Garage, I do construction but I just can't figure out what you use, if you see this thanks man, I love you!
Gyeon really needs to release all their products to the US community. It's absurd this day and age that they have certified only coatings and products.
It's to protect the Pro detailers. But I get what you mean
@MarcYanOfficial pro detailers shouldn't need to be protected by Gyeon. Their WORK should be protection enough. If you're running a business and can't compete with people doing DIY, then you're really not that good of a business, or not worth what you think you are.
gyeon certified detailers are more advanced than DIY detailers, lol u can’t give everyone high end products that are not easy to use. It’s to protect GYEON, not the detailers
@charliewhite9265 the application instructions for their certified only coatings are even simpler than even Can Coat. Just stop.
EXACTLY! It's no different than the hair industry @@charliewhite9265 the best of hair dye can only be purchased by pro's and that's why us gals pay north of $250 at the stylist! The $14.99 box at the drug store will fry ur hair over time
I sent my wheels to be resprayed and I will be applying Gyeon Q2 Rim Evo to them. Am I ok with using only the Gyeon Prep to prep the surface before applying the ceramic coating or do I have to use something else. Thanks.
Hi Pan, Yvan recommends using his rinseless wash and panel prep simultaneously before ceramic coating. Since you introduced me to this world of car detailing I value your opinion. Also as you say Yvan has a lifetime in this as you do. Dish liquid, DIY rinseless wash, or panel prep tabs if I could get them. Is one method better than the other? Or either one is fine? Thank you as always for what you do, it really is greatly appreciated.
DIY here: *I did this as I couldn’t spend all day on my car so had to break it up*.
What if you decon washed and paint corrected but then applied the coating on a different day (but on this day of coating you did another decon wash and IPa prior to applying the coating ?)
I feel this would be a great way to ensure the clear coat is free of said oils / fillers ect ?
Pan, do you have any knowledge if one were to use something like a citrus APC or degreaser to follow up the polishing step but still including panel wipe after if this would achieve the same degreasing effect. Thank you.
I have a question
what are your thoughts on using a sink after the polishing stage before applying the ceramic?
will this be enough to wash off the oils guaranteed?
Bring on the tabs, it’s to good to not offer and enhance your product
Thanks Pan for another great video
Very informative
I washed my vehicle again after paint correction. Then used gyeon prep one panel at a time right before applying the coating. Lol I seen after writing this that gyeon actually recommends this. I guess I did ok
I would just follow what the brand I will use says is needed. I do practice though the 1 brand thru-out the entire process. Try Palmolive dish washing liquid. I find it better than dawn
I usually just add a bit of degreaser to my ipa wipe but I have a new citrus solvent we got in that I'm going to try mixed with IPA on a car we have in the shop
I’ve had can coat for about 2 years now and would like to know the process of removing it. Is a high alkaline soap then degreasers enough to remove it?
Hoping to see a video on the best ceramics based on preferences. Meaning this one gives you most shine, this one has best water beading, this one has the most protection, etc. Obviously based on what you’ve experienced cause I know that’s a crazy question answer but can never find a video on this
I always those it was odd not to wash post polish. I personally use Bilt Hamber pre wash as it is a great degreaser.
Pan, I am about to coat a show car with mohs. It has never been waxed and was painted last year and is driven scarcely. Is there a need for 1.) and iron decon or clay and 2.) this degreasing step?
Yes, I would love to see the decreasing tabs for consumers
would a follow up of gyeon FOAM work just as good as Dishwashing soap? I still have a stigma of using Dawn and would always think its stuck in my wash mitt ruining my washes/coatings in the future
What's the best known ceramic or graphene coating for a very good water beeding and sheeding for rain and scratches and long durability for my car>? Thanks and appreciate your cooperation
Pan, i would love your opinion: if its brand new car, how do you feel about using just a polish compound with medium cut pad? or medium cut compound with polish pad?
Just got some of the Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Graphene Paste Wax! Will be using the Turtle Wax Hybrid Graphene Infused Flex Wax as a topper for it going forward!! ❤😍❤😍 that stuff!!!
What is a reccomended topper, drying aid for a ceramic coated car?
Bonjour Pan! J’ai une question pour toi concernant la préparation des vitre pour ensuite appliquer un coating pour pare-brise? Est ce que je peux préparer mon pare-brise en me servant de Carpro Ceri-glass et ensuite appliquer un coating tel le
glaco ou je dois appliquer le flyby forte? Merci à l’avance pour ta
Réponse.
Salut pan jaimerais savoir cest quoi le meilleur enduit ceramique sur le marche et la durabilite aussi merci
The de-grease tap would be great to have available.
Definitely interested in a prep was solution. Make the tabs!!! LOL
I do have a question on coatings. if a vehicle has been polished a few times in its life (a 2017 model year wife's vehicle) and sits outside never garaged and the clear is on the thinner side i would imagine, will a coating prolong the fading of the clear as long as it's applied properly and topped every so often with a ceramic topper? I have a paint depth gauge and took some readings and now I know where the thinner spots are so when I polish, I will be mindful of those areas. I know it doesn't tell you how thick the clear is, but the paint is original, and I see from the readings where it looks like there have been a couple repairs, small but they are there. I would just like to preserve the clear a little while longer, so I don't have a faded hood and roof to look at.