Lucy and Ghoul finger scene..... wow! And very interesting to get more details on Ghouls in general. Badd Medicine Arcade (Gaming channel) ua-cam.com/channels/HIstVk00GtduPIXlJLdC3A.html Early Drops & Full Reactions on YT Memberships & Patreon: www.patreon.com/baddmedicine Backup channel Subscribe here ua-cam.com/channels/1CLUwA27dz-94o3FR0o3xg.html
You guys mentioned about if they run out of story from the games; this whole show is an original story based on the games. They’ve already said they will keep writing episodes as long as people keep watching.
The robot fixing Lucy’s finger before going to harvest her organs is kind of a game thing. Basically, all the robots around are pre-war, they have programming from before the bombs fell. So he was a doctor, he’s fulfilling that role. But he’s also had new programming spliced in there, so he does both.
Interestingly he *does* tell her to try her luck through those doors, which she does, and he ends up getting his hands on the vials so it kinda worked out for him lol
Finally someone else who figured it out! I thought I was taking crazy pills because nobody got it! Obviously those dumbasses who reprogrammed him to harvest organs wouldn't be expert hackers.
It is also very logical for the robot in the supermarket. She is their product for sale. Must be in perfect condition. You do not put damaged goods on the shelves.
So many people say "This is a reference to X in the games." I don't think they're doing that here. He's just filling his damn hat, not everything has to be a reference. Overthinking it.
I love that ending. Facing his past and the reality that he’s become a shell of the man he used to be(understandably)…he’s ugly, he’s strong but these days does he have much dignity?
There isn't much dignity to be found in the wasteland, whether you're a good person or evil. Being reminded that you used have it is a cruel punch to the gut.
"Feo fuerte y formal. I'll give you two out of three in that one." It's like past Cooper is talking to current Cooper, and he realises it. In combination with the kind act from Lucy, it's a needed wake up call for him. I love the character work on this show, it surprised me!
This episode was so quintessentially Fallout to me, like everything from Lucy and The Ghoul travelling the Wasteland, her misadventure in the Super Duper Mart, and Norm and Chet investigating Valut 32 could have been straight out of the games. Exploring abandoned vaults is one of the most interesting and rewarding things in the games and stalking through those dark, chaotic hallways feels just like that, they captured it so, so well. Immediately after finishing this episode I went 'yup, gonna redownload my Fallout games now'. Episodes 1-3 were fantastic and did amazing jobs introducing the audience - both those familiar with the franchise and those not - to the world and to our characters. But to me, THIS is the episode where they were like 'okay, exposition done, let's make this a Fallout show for real!' From here, it's banger after banger and I am not surprised they got immediately renewed for a second season!
The finger scene... He took her finger off to remind her of her golden rule.... Due unto others! So he followed her golden rule and took her finger as she took his. Love this show. Also the vault was opened from the "outside" by Norms mom Rose with the pip-boy.
Correct. 'Pretty average' as she says, so it makes you wonder what passes for 'good' down there? But I guess when your only past times are playing with rifles, or reading/watching the same old books and movies you've seen a hundred times before, they get plenty of practise XD
@@LoricSwift I think it was actually to show that humility is something that's a part of their vault culture too. They can't brag or say how amazing they are - you see that in the way the others talk too, they are careful about how much credit they'll give themselves. The comedy in this show is wonderful, it all feels so natural and unintentional (though it definitely is intentional)
@@LoricSwift I think she was just showing humility or possibly being sheepish for a girl being good at a "boy thing". Maybe to her, its not lady like to be a bad ass.
The ending when he’s watching his own movie I always feel like his past self is talking to his current self now. He’s now ugly and strong, but has no dignity.
Either way, its a SUPER bad line. Like...the worst line ever. Its strange and makes no sense. The guy on the ground was begging for his life, in an undignified manner. He lost the fight, so he isn't powerful. And he wasn't really ugly enough, to make it clear that was one of the two. The line is a miss, imo, and a rare weak spot in the show.
@Tijuanabill yeah because the guy who wrote the scripts for the old westerns got fired for being a commie.... he even says "this isn't something my character would say" when they showed the filming of it in the flashbacks.
@@kingjellybean9795 Yeah, sure. It could be it's intentionally bad, because the new writer is bad. But you would think they would ham it up a bit then, instead of treating it like some epic line, complete with call back. I just think the line itself is bad, and its one of the very few things that doesn't work, in my humble opinion.
@@TijuanabillThe good writer was fired and subsequently replaced with a worse one because the good writer was called out as communist. they are sacrificing good writing over having a communist show-runner because of the Red scare and how that would effect ratings in Hollywood. The red scare was real and effected Hollywood, many actors and writers were accused and even jailed for being communists spies just because of their political beliefs. In the fallout universe the Red scare never ended neither did the Cold war. Without context of the greater fallout universe that line might feel out of place.
I’ve watched a lot of different reactors doing this episode and one thing that I love is the fact that everybody appreciates the Ghoul giving Roger a happy memory before putting him down
@@kaen4299 players of the games should know from about the first 5 seconds of that scene that Roger is turning feral, and everything that entails. Until we get to the SD Mart though casuals, for lack of a better word, don't know for sure what's going on.
The Mr. Handy robot in this episode was originally programmed to administer medical assistance. It was later hacked with additional programming to harvest organs. It was simply following an order of procedure.
Also its like at least 220 years old at this point, so quirky, possibly nonsensical behaviour is to be pretty much expected. But yeah I assumed the organ harvesting part had been tacked on after the fact XD
Ohhh! That's why the robot repaired Lucy's finger first, since its original programming was to help with human medical treatment. Then the second command or mode took over, which was to remove the organs. 😮
The transition from a regular Ghoul, who remembers all the majesty of the old future world, to the feral ghoul is one of the best things on TV at the moment. Best metaphor for dementia and age out there.
The ghouls will turn feral, so basically just wild animals (most of the ghouls in the games). That’s why in the first episode, they had a chicken to see if the ghoul that came out of the grave was feral or not, it would have just went right for the chicken without any thought
My theory is because he hasn't experienced extra rads or anything, give him time and he'll probably go feral just like the rest. (Spoiler: then again, his parents were still alive and fine, so who knows) 🤷🏼♀️
@@shanehebert396 oh I agree, but with their thinking they could just throw it at the ghoul or run and leave the chicken hoping the ghoul would go for that instead
It’s an original story. A continuation of the world of Fallout. But it’s not a retelling of any of the games unlike The Last Of Us. So they have a lot of room to make their own thing.
The writing on this show is spectacular, everything connects, everything ends up making sense, so few plot holes in an amazing complex dance of characters.
All the more remarkable since this is technically an in-canon original story. None of these story lines (aside from the dad kidnapped from the vault plot kick-off) come from the games.
Great episode reaction .....that robot also known as Mr Handy in the fallout games are programmed to fix/repair things , that's why he gave her a new finger Even though it looks like the ghoul is treating Lucy like crap , I actually think he's teaching her that she needs to toughen up and to do whatever it takes to survive the surface
In the scene with the jello cake: I thought the brother was trying to do 2 things. 1. Make people start realizing that the raiders are a drain on their resources by giving them something special that not everyone usually gets. Make people think "Why are we giving our stuff to them instead of us?" 2. Get some time alone with the prisoner. By giving the guard the rest of the cake, she left giving him time to get a little info from the prisoner.
He would never expect the others to think the first thing. Remember, they wanted to bring the raiders into their community. They WANTED to give the raiders their time and resources to rehabilitate them. The vault dwellers are mostly selfless sheep, and dangerously so.
12:50 Think Snip-Snip gave a finger to properly up her ‘quality’ from near-mint to “good enough for the exchange rate.” Think he’s still primarily programmed to ‘aid’ humans, but can’t differentiate between necessary and unnecessary actions.
They don't have the Asimov rules for robots in Fallout. They can be quite sinister. All you have to do, is tell them to do what you want, and they will.
I loved this Series. They did so well keeping Fallout vets entertained yet managed to explain the history enough for newbies to basically get you up to date on the lore... You'll love the rest of this!
As a fan of the game, i loved that show. It so on the point. Ruthless reality, moral problems, gore mysteries, and dark humor. I remember being a newbie and dying over and over due to stupid wild dog, and the Alakazam song playing over and over, and i loved it. Somehow, the show got that essence of upbeat giddy songs playing during the most horrible battles.
Answer is right, "smoothie" refers to humans. "Smoothskin" is what ghouls typically call humans in the games Also, the Ghoul eating Roger is in line with the fact that the games give you the option to be a cannibal
I assumed he was eating Roger to get the drugs in his system. He looks like he had been dumping several in to himself, out of desperation. Earlier The Ghoul asks for "two months supply of vials" and inside, the robot says he is asking for 60 vials. So its one vial a day, but he was sat next to a whole pile.
You can't sell a hand if there is a finger missing...Best price and all that. Hank as the Oversear must have been in contact with Vault 32 over the years, so he may have known what was happening.
Everyone says "Why give her a finger?" when it's revealed he is going to sell her organs... Your limbs are classed as organs... and i can imagine a whole limb being more valuable than a partial limb... especially a full "grasping organ"... otherwise known as a hand.
The banter between Quinn & Oak at 37:34 was so amusing, the way Quinn said "you gotta control yourself" was hot & hilarious hehe 🤭 also "ass jerky is better than rhubarb pie" agree with that, I hate rhubarb too, spam only tastes good if you fry it. That bert scene lol 😂 also the real name of the robot "snip snip" is Codsworth, Lucy was badass in that scene with it & the ghouls!.
as a man thats finished most of the games and the entire season, you guys are going to LOVE the rest of their show, everything will be explained and you will learn so im keen to watch more reactions.
Hello friends. Here's my breakdown of facts for episode 4: Regular people are known as "smooth skins" by ghouls. In the game there are two types of ghouls. The so-called "normal" ones like Walton's character and "feral" ghouls. Both are the result of mutations caused by radiation poisoning. Which version they become is up to chance and the type of mutation they undergo. Unlike the game the show has introduced an aspect to them that makes it so normal ghouls can eventually turn feral if not treated. They use a serum to keep their humanity. All the product names and items mentioned in the show (Blammco and the like) are all from the game. Sorry to burst Mason's bubble, but stimpacks do not cure radiation sickness. Even in the games the stims will recover your health, but fall short depending on how irradiated your character is. The only way to cure that is via Rad-Away packs. The Super Duper Mart. An iconic Fallout location. Of course it's a chain so you do encounter multiple throughout the games, but there's one thing they all have in common. Usually they're infested with ghouls. The robot seen in this episode voiced by the fantastic Matt Berry is a General Atomics International Mr. Handy, a service and maintenance bot usually employed as a butler or manual labor worker. To clarify, all raiders are from the wasteland. The ones shown infiltrated Vault 32 and found it in the state it was already in. In order to infiltrate Vault 33 they disguised themselves as other vault dwellers. Only Vault-Tec has prior knowledge of what is going on in each vault. When Lucy leaves the Super Duper Mart she's seen wearing wasteland gear, the armor commonly used at early levels in the Fallout games shortly after starting. The reason the tech seen in Fallout is all retro is because the Fallout universe takes place in an alternate history where the microchip was never invented. This is why things like the Radiation King TV sets resemble old 60s tech. Extra tidbit: Recently it's been revealed that Bethesda provided Amazon with the game files for multiple items from the game which the production team 3D printed in order to get them as close to the game as possible. That is why so many things in the show look identical to the games including the vault corridors and such. EDIT: I've mentioned this before, but the story for the show is original. It has references and inspirations from plots seen in the games, but on the whole the story is original. Part of why it works so well is because the writers didn't try to adapt plot from the games, they just created a story properly themed around the world created by the games.
@@lilunette9319 I know, right?! So far they've only confirmed 1 thing about the second season, but gotta wait for the guys to catch up before I mention anything.
I love how at the end of the episode, the Ghoul is now on the other side of the barrel embodying the line that describes the villain as ugly, strong, and without dignity, as told to him by his past self.
I think the answer to "why fix her finger" is... what if somebody comes along looking to buy a hand? You're gonna have a hard time moving a hand that's missing its index finger.
Turning into a ghoul is a by product of long term radiation exposure in the fallout universe. Cooper is a rare pre-war ghoul, most ghouls are far younger than him. At first all ghouls are sentient and just like regular people, but over time the radiation can affect their brain until they then become feral ghouls. Which are essentially zombies. The drug that the Fallout show is using with these ghouls to keep them from turning feral is a new addition to the series. But in Fallout 4 a character who is a ghoul mentions that about 10 years prior to the game (still 200something years after the bombs) he was human and found this experimental radiation drug, that changed him after one hit. So its likely that this drug is the same one in the show, they just expanded on it and gave it a place in the lore.
Eh.....a lot of that is implied, but they haven't really nailed it down, in game, or in this show. Its implied in some of the games that all the ghouls were alive on the blast day, then in others they abandon that idea. Hancock of course was self inflicted, as you say. But my point is just that this is something they have been unclear about. Also, even though the character himself thinks he might be a ghoul, what happens to him is not consistent with ghouls. They don't regrow limbs; to the contrary, all their appendages fall off. I think the chicken f*cker, (his name forever) gave him FEV and the squire will morph in to a super mutant. Or, its a little ret con, no big deal. I think we will see him again though, which will be fun.
@@Tijuanabill Just going from my experiences within the games, Considering genuine Pre war ghouls are definitely a thing like Cooper, Eddie Winter, Oswald, etc, and of course most ingame ferals are pre-war citizens. But in the show, the ghoul Cooper put a bullet through, acknowledged that he was in fact a younger ghoul than Cooper. But you are right it is a bit nebulous where younger ghouls fit into the overall lore. I like to think that its just a hazard of being exposed to too much rads over a long time. I'm pretty convinced that Hancock's experimental radiation drug, is at the very least an implied retcon. And I find it very plausible that the drug in the show is intended to be the same one. Perhaps FEV and this Experimental Radiation Drug are linked in some way? As Thaddeus' sudden transformation fits in with Hancock's, but the superhuman healing fits more in with FEV.
So the video they showed was actual footage from the "Mouse Utopia" experiments that studied behavioral sink that was done in the 1960s. I remember watching a thing on it with the actual footage so I recognized it pretty quick.
Smoothies is short for smooth-skin, which ghouls use as a derogatory jab in the game since everyone else always hates on them for their appearance. Also in the games they dont have a suppressant for the feral side, once they take in too many rads they just turn full zombie
Mr. Handy replacing the finger before performing his dissection is imo another hint that the robots aren't all there. They've become corrupted over hundreds of years, minor software corruption and people hacking in can have big effects on their behavior. But at their core, they were still designed to be benevolent helpers and that programming still seeps through.
The show has /slightly/ changed how ghouls work frfom in the game. The simplest way to explain it would be that they have been heavily radiated. They have a healing factor (theorized in modern medicine today regarding the use of radation) but eventually, they're brain will become to eradiated that they lose themselves and become 'feral'. Once feral, there is no coming back- essentially a zombie on the hunt to eat anything in sight. The medicine The Ghoul takes isn't explicitly named but is likely some sort of medicine that keeps his radiation undercontrol so his mind doesn't go. It takes a lot of mental willpower along with the medicine to fight off going feral, making The Ghoul's 250+ year life span even more impressive. Loving the reactions- as a huge fan of the games it's been interesting watching an outside perspective of the show.
@BaddMedicine. Although the games are fun, as an adult it can easily take 22+ hours if not more just for the basic main plots. The Show is a good expression and keeps true to the source material for the most part while telling its own story and event expanding on the lore and universe. Its fantastic to see new comers and vets of the series react and be part of something many of us loved growing up. Shows and movies alike can do a great job at exspresing the stories of the game in a different medium like a movie. Thanks for reacting! Hope one day we get to see you react to Star Wars the clone wars series(Preferably in chronological story arcs). Thanks again for years of entertainment!
Agree. They are gen X and not games at all. It would be so frustrating for them to play old bugged games. I couldn't watch any of their gaming content. They are so smart analyzing everything, but with controllers in their hands, they are suddenly idiots.
When wandering the wasteland players often have little they can trust beyond their handy Pip Boy. Not only does it cater to their every inquiry regarding their health status, inventory and objectives, it comes with a handy radio able to pick up all sorts of signals in the wild. Sometimes hidden quests are revealed by being in proximity, but there will almost undoubtedly be someone dedicated to being a DJ and playing tunes to help the survivors of the wasteland get through the day to day. The songs in the show are all lifted from the various radio stations that have been in the Fallout Games, along with a few other tunes. The aesthetic of the universe is one that is futuristic technology based on the 1940s-50s idea of what the future would be like. The overall style of things as they were before the bombs helps lend to the biting satire and commentary of the Cold War era notions of atomic doomsday which is what the Fallout series was built upon, and if nothing else the music of those eras definitely hits home the point of the games settings as an alternate universe that might, and could still happen.
That was the joke; that the guy was playing the Minutemen Radio songs. Nobody listens to that channel in game, due to the constant "settlers need help" quests that pop up when you do listen. I think the "people get fully mad" is a joke about Minutemen Radio, not the music itself.
“Looking forward to the High-Jinks this episode” is unintentional foreshadowing, because Ella Purnell played Jinx in Arcane and later in this episode, she gets high…
Funny thing: The development of the Blue LED was so incredibly hard, that basically every company on the planet dropped the idea. Just one crazy guy experimented his ass off and persuaded enough people to give him money so he could make the breakthrough. Without him, we would still have this only-green (or red) displays today and technology development would be at a way different point in general.
The show did so well because most people have never seen the Wasteland, so it's something fresh & new. Once that wears off, it'll just be us normal Wastelanders again.
Why replace her missing finger? A lot of people bring this up. It was an easy way to get her to lower her guard. Bring her to the medical bay and on a bed. Then sedating her. Smart programing for that robot.
Just so you guys know this show is base on the Fallout franchise games but its not a story from any specific game that they have released. This shows writing expands on the lore of the game while also being its own story. Its not like the last of us.
There are basicly 3 kinds of ghouls, the ones like "The Ghoul" the sentient humanoid, then there are 2 kinds of feral ghouls who has lost all sense of humanity and are basically just animals, the regular feral ghouls and the radiated ones. Ghouls who has been exposed to soo mych radiation that the are glowing green and are much stronger and are radioactive themselves.
"Golden Rule, Motherfucker" is possibly the best line in the episode, maybe the entire series. It sums up Lucy's character perfectly. Well, "Ass jerky don't make itself" was quite memorable too. 😂 Oak was talking about this in his wrap up, and I really think that Vault 32 had no birth control available and went through surges of over population and anarchy, then being restored. Vault 33 did have plenty of birth control and were encouraged to have sex as a normal thing, thus why Lucy and Chet had been fooling around for ten years but never got Lucy pregnant. (More thoughts to come on this topic in future episodes).
For your information going forward, the series here is not one of the games as a show it’s a canon story that takes place in the same world but with a different cast. It is part of Fallout though.
The guys were using the robot to harvest organs. While they didn't seem that smart during that scene, you need to remember that they were clearly using some of the drugs they had all around the couch, so they probably weren't fully sober during that scene.
There were a bunch of firsts for Lucy in this episode. Two stand out as key moments of character development for her. First is that Martha is the first person Lucy killed. Before that she was using her tranq-gun. Now she has a regular firearm. Second is "Golden Rule, Motherfucker." That was the first time I think she actually used foul language.
Man, I love rhubarb reminds me of my grandma we'd eat it raw out the ground so we didnt have to go inside for lunch/snack and could keep playing😂 gotta like sour things
For "writing for themselves" you guys should know they are! This is a completely new story, adjacent to the video game world/lore but completely new and original, not based on an existing game but developing in the same world! :D
Regarding the soundtrack, these actual songs are part of the game's music because you have a radio in-game that you will likely tune on as you wander the wastelands and it has these specific iconic songs.
I think the reason Snip-Snip put the finger back on was to show that these robots are smart, but not human smart. Some of their logic doesn’t quite hit the mark. It’s the same thing with the robots in the game. You can find a robot still cleaning up the house after the bombs went off, or everyone is dead and they are waiting to be told they can go home, etc.
I have been eating rhubarb since I was a little kid. I would pull it straight out of the ground from the patch in my mom's backyard, rinse it off with the hose, and eat it then and there. I love it, I love the tartness. I have a patch in my backyard. I'm not only eat it raw, but I make lots of stuff with it. Yummy!
Fan Theory on Snip Snip replacing Lucy's finger: Snip Snip was originally programmed as a medical robot and that is still his primary programming. The stoners added their own subroutines for harvesting human organs. Since medical care is his primary function, Snip Snip takes care of that first and then proceeds with his new programming to harvest organs. He didn't take the box because in the Fallout games you can't pick up a container, only the stuff in the container. 😉
The problem the Ghoul has now is, the guys who made the vials are dead now, so who’s he going to get new vials from when his new supply eventually runs out. Will he end up going feral.
I think the Enclave, where Wiltzig and Four/Dogmeat escaped from, probably created the vials for the ghouls. I haven't played the game, but the Enclave seems to be the source of a lot of things in the Fallout world.
First of all: This story is almost entirely original. It takes place in the same world as the games, but these are completely new characters and there's just some in-world references to nod at us nerds. Secondly: "War... war never changes".
I don't think The Ghoul wanted to haul a heavy wooden box around with him. It's not like he has a horse to help carry it (they don't exist in the Fallout universe post bombs).😊
Lucy and Ghoul finger scene..... wow! And very interesting to get more details on Ghouls in general.
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I'm with Mason Quinn on the rhubarb pie and what I'd eat rather than rhubarb pie
Hey Mason, you’re not from Connecticut are you?
Fallout 4 playthrough, when?
Finger scene ??? I almost took that out of context...
You guys mentioned about if they run out of story from the games; this whole show is an original story based on the games. They’ve already said they will keep writing episodes as long as people keep watching.
The robot fixing Lucy’s finger before going to harvest her organs is kind of a game thing. Basically, all the robots around are pre-war, they have programming from before the bombs fell. So he was a doctor, he’s fulfilling that role. But he’s also had new programming spliced in there, so he does both.
Interestingly he *does* tell her to try her luck through those doors, which she does, and he ends up getting his hands on the vials so it kinda worked out for him lol
Finally someone else who figured it out! I thought I was taking crazy pills because nobody got it! Obviously those dumbasses who reprogrammed him to harvest organs wouldn't be expert hackers.
Not really new programming. These people are not capable of that. He just follows the orders he is given, and they gave him f'ed up orders.
It is also very logical for the robot in the supermarket. She is their product for sale. Must be in perfect condition. You do not put damaged goods on the shelves.
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The Ghoul loading his hat with medicine is a nod to the gamers. You can loot the contents but you can’t take the container 😂
I never even considered that!
So many people say "This is a reference to X in the games." I don't think they're doing that here. He's just filling his damn hat, not everything has to be a reference. Overthinking it.
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but also makes sense.. he's a gun slinger, how u gonna shoot with a big container in hand
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How’s he gonna shoot with his hat full of glass vials in his hand? He can put a box down.
I love that ending. Facing his past and the reality that he’s become a shell of the man he used to be(understandably)…he’s ugly, he’s strong but these days does he have much dignity?
Beautifully explained.
In episode 8 he showed dignity for not trying to kill Lucy and inviting her to find their makers
@@Lil.Lon3Ly He probably only did so because Lucy showed him mercy, reminding him that there's still something to be saved in the Wasteland
@@pabloc8808 She won the hardest charisma check ever, to change Coop, even a little.
There isn't much dignity to be found in the wasteland, whether you're a good person or evil. Being reminded that you used have it is a cruel punch to the gut.
"Feo fuerte y formal. I'll give you two out of three in that one." It's like past Cooper is talking to current Cooper, and he realises it. In combination with the kind act from Lucy, it's a needed wake up call for him. I love the character work on this show, it surprised me!
This episode was so quintessentially Fallout to me, like everything from Lucy and The Ghoul travelling the Wasteland, her misadventure in the Super Duper Mart, and Norm and Chet investigating Valut 32 could have been straight out of the games. Exploring abandoned vaults is one of the most interesting and rewarding things in the games and stalking through those dark, chaotic hallways feels just like that, they captured it so, so well. Immediately after finishing this episode I went 'yup, gonna redownload my Fallout games now'. Episodes 1-3 were fantastic and did amazing jobs introducing the audience - both those familiar with the franchise and those not - to the world and to our characters. But to me, THIS is the episode where they were like 'okay, exposition done, let's make this a Fallout show for real!' From here, it's banger after banger and I am not surprised they got immediately renewed for a second season!
The finger scene... He took her finger off to remind her of her golden rule.... Due unto others! So he followed her golden rule and took her finger as she took his. Love this show. Also the vault was opened from the "outside" by Norms mom Rose with the pip-boy.
if u paid attention in the first episode,she hit al the marks in the chest when she was aim training,so shes a great shot actually.
Correct. 'Pretty average' as she says, so it makes you wonder what passes for 'good' down there? But I guess when your only past times are playing with rifles, or reading/watching the same old books and movies you've seen a hundred times before, they get plenty of practise XD
@@LoricSwift I think it was actually to show that humility is something that's a part of their vault culture too. They can't brag or say how amazing they are - you see that in the way the others talk too, they are careful about how much credit they'll give themselves. The comedy in this show is wonderful, it all feels so natural and unintentional (though it definitely is intentional)
@@bulletsandbracelets4140 exactly, that was showering her humility, not saying everyone down there maxed out their rifle proficiency
@@LoricSwift I think she was just showing humility or possibly being sheepish for a girl being good at a "boy thing". Maybe to her, its not lady like to be a bad ass.
@@Tijuanabill maybe, or maybe no one has anything better to do all day XD
The ending when he’s watching his own movie I always feel like his past self is talking to his current self now. He’s now ugly and strong, but has no dignity.
Either way, its a SUPER bad line. Like...the worst line ever. Its strange and makes no sense. The guy on the ground was begging for his life, in an undignified manner. He lost the fight, so he isn't powerful. And he wasn't really ugly enough, to make it clear that was one of the two. The line is a miss, imo, and a rare weak spot in the show.
@Tijuanabill yeah because the guy who wrote the scripts for the old westerns got fired for being a commie.... he even says "this isn't something my character would say" when they showed the filming of it in the flashbacks.
@@kingjellybean9795 Yeah, sure. It could be it's intentionally bad, because the new writer is bad. But you would think they would ham it up a bit then, instead of treating it like some epic line, complete with call back.
I just think the line itself is bad, and its one of the very few things that doesn't work, in my humble opinion.
@@TijuanabillThe good writer was fired and subsequently replaced with a worse one because the good writer was called out as communist. they are sacrificing good writing over having a communist show-runner because of the Red scare and how that would effect ratings in Hollywood. The red scare was real and effected Hollywood, many actors and writers were accused and even jailed for being communists spies just because of their political beliefs. In the fallout universe the Red scare never ended neither did the Cold war. Without context of the greater fallout universe that line might feel out of place.
The Roger scene, I felt that shit, it was so incredibly well acted from all parties. It was a tear jerker.
Playing the games and knowing what's going on, the scene hits a ton harder than it would for people that don't know anything about what's going
I’ve watched a lot of different reactors doing this episode and one thing that I love is the fact that everybody appreciates the Ghoul giving Roger a happy memory before putting him down
That actor made me want to sit with Roger for more screen time, which is pretty hard to do in less than 5 minutes.
@@canadian__ninja What do you mean?
@@kaen4299 players of the games should know from about the first 5 seconds of that scene that Roger is turning feral, and everything that entails. Until we get to the SD Mart though casuals, for lack of a better word, don't know for sure what's going on.
The Mr. Handy robot in this episode was originally programmed to administer medical assistance. It was later hacked with additional programming to harvest organs. It was simply following an order of procedure.
Order of operations. Multiplication comes first. Finger repair first...then organ harvest.
I thought it was because he was only able to harvest intact bodies.
Also its like at least 220 years old at this point, so quirky, possibly nonsensical behaviour is to be pretty much expected. But yeah I assumed the organ harvesting part had been tacked on after the fact XD
Ohhh! That's why the robot repaired Lucy's finger first, since its original programming was to help with human medical treatment. Then the second command or mode took over, which was to remove the organs. 😮
@@paulhewes7333 He put the finger back on to bring her up to "mint condition", so her organs are more valuable.
The transition from a regular Ghoul, who remembers all the majesty of the old future world, to the feral ghoul is one of the best things on TV at the moment. Best metaphor for dementia and age out there.
Stimpax will not get rid of radiation. You need Rad-away for that and you'll need Rad-X to better combat the radiation.
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The ghouls will turn feral, so basically just wild animals (most of the ghouls in the games). That’s why in the first episode, they had a chicken to see if the ghoul that came out of the grave was feral or not, it would have just went right for the chicken without any thought
There are some ghouls that won’t go feral. The ghoul kid in Fallout 4 was stuck in fridge for 200 years and he was fine.
My theory is because he hasn't experienced extra rads or anything, give him time and he'll probably go feral just like the rest. (Spoiler: then again, his parents were still alive and fine, so who knows) 🤷🏼♀️
I think the "chicken test" was just an old wive's tale. In the game, ferals will go after anything/everything that moves...
@@shanehebert396 oh I agree, but with their thinking they could just throw it at the ghoul or run and leave the chicken hoping the ghoul would go for that instead
In the games it was never really explained why some ghouls went feral and some not.
It’s an original story. A continuation of the world of Fallout. But it’s not a retelling of any of the games unlike The Last Of Us. So they have a lot of room to make their own thing.
I like how you all discussed the episode more with each other instead of just giving your main thoughts. 👍 You all are in for a ride.
The writing on this show is spectacular, everything connects, everything ends up making sense, so few plot holes in an amazing complex dance of characters.
All the more remarkable since this is technically an in-canon original story. None of these story lines (aside from the dad kidnapped from the vault plot kick-off) come from the games.
The robot putting the finger on first before organ harvest just shows how much of a slave to its programming it is.
Its to bring the condition of the organ donor up to "mint condition", as they discussed on screen. A 4 finger hand is worth less than a 5 finger hand.
Great episode reaction .....that robot also known as Mr Handy in the fallout games are programmed to fix/repair things , that's why he gave her a new finger
Even though it looks like the ghoul is treating Lucy like crap , I actually think he's teaching her that she needs to toughen up and to do whatever it takes to survive the surface
In the scene with the jello cake: I thought the brother was trying to do 2 things.
1. Make people start realizing that the raiders are a drain on their resources by giving them something special that not everyone usually gets. Make people think "Why are we giving our stuff to them instead of us?"
2. Get some time alone with the prisoner. By giving the guard the rest of the cake, she left giving him time to get a little info from the prisoner.
He would never expect the others to think the first thing. Remember, they wanted to bring the raiders into their community. They WANTED to give the raiders their time and resources to rehabilitate them. The vault dwellers are mostly selfless sheep, and dangerously so.
12:50 Think Snip-Snip gave a finger to properly up her ‘quality’ from near-mint to “good enough for the exchange rate.”
Think he’s still primarily programmed to ‘aid’ humans, but can’t differentiate between necessary and unnecessary actions.
They don't have the Asimov rules for robots in Fallout. They can be quite sinister. All you have to do, is tell them to do what you want, and they will.
I loved this Series. They did so well keeping Fallout vets entertained yet managed to explain the history enough for newbies to basically get you up to date on the lore... You'll love the rest of this!
As a fan of the game, i loved that show. It so on the point. Ruthless reality, moral problems, gore mysteries, and dark humor. I remember being a newbie and dying over and over due to stupid wild dog, and the Alakazam song playing over and over, and i loved it. Somehow, the show got that essence of upbeat giddy songs playing during the most horrible battles.
Answer is right, "smoothie" refers to humans. "Smoothskin" is what ghouls typically call humans in the games
Also, the Ghoul eating Roger is in line with the fact that the games give you the option to be a cannibal
I smiled so wide when he said "smoothie". The little nods to the games are such a treat.
This is just in, Fallout invented cannibalism.
I assumed he was eating Roger to get the drugs in his system. He looks like he had been dumping several in to himself, out of desperation. Earlier The Ghoul asks for "two months supply of vials" and inside, the robot says he is asking for 60 vials. So its one vial a day, but he was sat next to a whole pile.
@@Tijuanabill That's not it usually works when I eat ass.
Been a long time watcher but this series has been the biggest blast! (pun intended) Looking forward to you finishing this!
You can't sell a hand if there is a finger missing...Best price and all that. Hank as the Oversear must have been in contact with Vault 32 over the years, so he may have known what was happening.
Yep, it was all about "mint condition" for both the hand, and the organs.
"I can't wait to see Dark Lucy."
Everyone who's seen Jinx in Arcane: (` ื__ ื)(` ื__ ื)(` ื__ ื)
She's only voicing Jinx, so people do not know how she really looks. Now she's getting much deserved fame.
Everyone says "Why give her a finger?" when it's revealed he is going to sell her organs...
Your limbs are classed as organs... and i can imagine a whole limb being more valuable than a partial limb... especially a full "grasping organ"... otherwise known as a hand.
The banter between Quinn & Oak at 37:34 was so amusing, the way Quinn said "you gotta control yourself" was hot & hilarious hehe 🤭 also "ass jerky is better than rhubarb pie" agree with that, I hate rhubarb too, spam only tastes good if you fry it. That bert scene lol 😂 also the real name of the robot "snip snip" is Codsworth, Lucy was badass in that scene with it & the ghouls!.
The writing in this show is way better than I thought it would be. Not a single second feels wasted.
I love this show so much. As a lifelong Fallout fan I was PRAYING they did it justice. 😭
It was a worry, thankfully they nailed it.
"Still better than rhubarb pie" needs to be a tee-shirt now, fellas.
The finger scene shocked me my first walkthrough because you can't help but like The Ghoul but he is brutal.
"My name is Martha."
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT NAME!
as a man thats finished most of the games and the entire season, you guys are going to LOVE the rest of their show, everything will be explained and you will learn so im keen to watch more reactions.
Strawberry Rhubarb pie is honestly my favorite kind, lol.
Ikr, what's with all the rhubarb hate? 😂 just sugar it really well and it's bomb!
@@vjtheowl6091 Also good with lots of sugar: everything, including nothing. Sugar is good on its own.
@@Tijuanabill as a person with ADHD and resulting raging sugar addiction, I agree ofc! 🤣
I love Chet so much 😂 he's one of my favourite characters, he's just looking for his place in this world. "Yes. I am Bert." Kills me everytime 😂
Chet is doing ok. Probably every man in the vault is jealous of him, after being with the two hottest ladies in the vault.
@Tijuanabill exactly. Chet's the man, he just needs to believe that 😂
Hello friends. Here's my breakdown of facts for episode 4:
Regular people are known as "smooth skins" by ghouls. In the game there are two types of ghouls. The so-called "normal" ones like Walton's character and "feral" ghouls. Both are the result of mutations caused by radiation poisoning. Which version they become is up to chance and the type of mutation they undergo. Unlike the game the show has introduced an aspect to them that makes it so normal ghouls can eventually turn feral if not treated. They use a serum to keep their humanity.
All the product names and items mentioned in the show (Blammco and the like) are all from the game.
Sorry to burst Mason's bubble, but stimpacks do not cure radiation sickness. Even in the games the stims will recover your health, but fall short depending on how irradiated your character is. The only way to cure that is via Rad-Away packs.
The Super Duper Mart. An iconic Fallout location. Of course it's a chain so you do encounter multiple throughout the games, but there's one thing they all have in common. Usually they're infested with ghouls.
The robot seen in this episode voiced by the fantastic Matt Berry is a General Atomics International Mr. Handy, a service and maintenance bot usually employed as a butler or manual labor worker.
To clarify, all raiders are from the wasteland. The ones shown infiltrated Vault 32 and found it in the state it was already in. In order to infiltrate Vault 33 they disguised themselves as other vault dwellers. Only Vault-Tec has prior knowledge of what is going on in each vault.
When Lucy leaves the Super Duper Mart she's seen wearing wasteland gear, the armor commonly used at early levels in the Fallout games shortly after starting.
The reason the tech seen in Fallout is all retro is because the Fallout universe takes place in an alternate history where the microchip was never invented. This is why things like the Radiation King TV sets resemble old 60s tech.
Extra tidbit: Recently it's been revealed that Bethesda provided Amazon with the game files for multiple items from the game which the production team 3D printed in order to get them as close to the game as possible. That is why so many things in the show look identical to the games including the vault corridors and such.
EDIT: I've mentioned this before, but the story for the show is original. It has references and inspirations from plots seen in the games, but on the whole the story is original. Part of why it works so well is because the writers didn't try to adapt plot from the games, they just created a story properly themed around the world created by the games.
@@lilunette9319 I know, right?! So far they've only confirmed 1 thing about the second season, but gotta wait for the guys to catch up before I mention anything.
Every song you have heard has been in a fallout game
Шикарный сериал. Я его через реакты уже чёрт знает какой раз пересматриваю)
For radiation sickness you use RadAway and Rad X to resist radiation better 🙂
And the leadbelly perk.
@@John_Locke_108 noob perk...just sayin
@@Tijuanabill Yup. Never used it myself.
None of the episodes are filler my friends this entire season is pure gold. Love your reaction guys looking forward to the next one.
I love how at the end of the episode, the Ghoul is now on the other side of the barrel embodying the line that describes the villain as ugly, strong, and without dignity, as told to him by his past self.
I think the answer to "why fix her finger" is... what if somebody comes along looking to buy a hand? You're gonna have a hard time moving a hand that's missing its index finger.
"near mint condition"
Ghoul: "There's a new Golden Rule..."
Lucy: "Yeah? Seems like the old one might be good too."
Turning into a ghoul is a by product of long term radiation exposure in the fallout universe. Cooper is a rare pre-war ghoul, most ghouls are far younger than him. At first all ghouls are sentient and just like regular people, but over time the radiation can affect their brain until they then become feral ghouls. Which are essentially zombies.
The drug that the Fallout show is using with these ghouls to keep them from turning feral is a new addition to the series. But in Fallout 4 a character who is a ghoul mentions that about 10 years prior to the game (still 200something years after the bombs) he was human and found this experimental radiation drug, that changed him after one hit. So its likely that this drug is the same one in the show, they just expanded on it and gave it a place in the lore.
Eh.....a lot of that is implied, but they haven't really nailed it down, in game, or in this show. Its implied in some of the games that all the ghouls were alive on the blast day, then in others they abandon that idea. Hancock of course was self inflicted, as you say. But my point is just that this is something they have been unclear about.
Also, even though the character himself thinks he might be a ghoul, what happens to him is not consistent with ghouls. They don't regrow limbs; to the contrary, all their appendages fall off. I think the chicken f*cker, (his name forever) gave him FEV and the squire will morph in to a super mutant. Or, its a little ret con, no big deal. I think we will see him again though, which will be fun.
@@Tijuanabill Just going from my experiences within the games, Considering genuine Pre war ghouls are definitely a thing like Cooper, Eddie Winter, Oswald, etc, and of course most ingame ferals are pre-war citizens.
But in the show, the ghoul Cooper put a bullet through, acknowledged that he was in fact a younger ghoul than Cooper. But you are right it is a bit nebulous where younger ghouls fit into the overall lore.
I like to think that its just a hazard of being exposed to too much rads over a long time.
I'm pretty convinced that Hancock's experimental radiation drug, is at the very least an implied retcon. And I find it very plausible that the drug in the show is intended to be the same one. Perhaps FEV and this Experimental Radiation Drug are linked in some way? As Thaddeus' sudden transformation fits in with Hancock's, but the superhuman healing fits more in with FEV.
So the video they showed was actual footage from the "Mouse Utopia" experiments that studied behavioral sink that was done in the 1960s. I remember watching a thing on it with the actual footage so I recognized it pretty quick.
It was a faithful recreation because if you look closely there are vault-tec logos in the maze.
Rhubarb pie vs ass jerky.... its a no brainer for Quinn😂😂!!! Gotta be that ass jerky. Get the bib ready!❤💞❤️
Smoothies is short for smooth-skin, which ghouls use as a derogatory jab in the game since everyone else always hates on them for their appearance. Also in the games they dont have a suppressant for the feral side, once they take in too many rads they just turn full zombie
I vividly rememer sewage quest foy the goul settlement to get them some medicine to survive in Follout 3, i think.
Mr. Handy replacing the finger before performing his dissection is imo another hint that the robots aren't all there.
They've become corrupted over hundreds of years, minor software corruption and people hacking in can have big effects
on their behavior. But at their core, they were still designed to be benevolent helpers and that programming still seeps through.
No.. Tunnel Snakes RULES!
😂😂😂😂😂
Butch was the worst. But I still helped him. Never had it in me to go full evil in Fallout.
@@John_Locke_108 People who go full evil in games, are the worst in real life too, in my experience.
7:03 okay Answer- let’s try not to shock-gasm over a finger being cut off 😂
Please double upload the rest! I cant wait another whole month just to see your reaction to the finale 😂
The show has /slightly/ changed how ghouls work frfom in the game. The simplest way to explain it would be that they have been heavily radiated. They have a healing factor (theorized in modern medicine today regarding the use of radation) but eventually, they're brain will become to eradiated that they lose themselves and become 'feral'. Once feral, there is no coming back- essentially a zombie on the hunt to eat anything in sight.
The medicine The Ghoul takes isn't explicitly named but is likely some sort of medicine that keeps his radiation undercontrol so his mind doesn't go. It takes a lot of mental willpower along with the medicine to fight off going feral, making The Ghoul's 250+ year life span even more impressive.
Loving the reactions- as a huge fan of the games it's been interesting watching an outside perspective of the show.
@BaddMedicine. Although the games are fun, as an adult it can easily take 22+ hours if not more just for the basic main plots. The Show is a good expression and keeps true to the source material for the most part while telling its own story and event expanding on the lore and universe. Its fantastic to see new comers and vets of the series react and be part of something many of us loved growing up. Shows and movies alike can do a great job at exspresing the stories of the game in a different medium like a movie. Thanks for reacting! Hope one day we get to see you react to Star Wars the clone wars series(Preferably in chronological story arcs). Thanks again for years of entertainment!
Agree. They are gen X and not games at all. It would be so frustrating for them to play old bugged games. I couldn't watch any of their gaming content. They are so smart analyzing everything, but with controllers in their hands, they are suddenly idiots.
Yes the songs theyre playing play on the radios in the fallout games. I love the music ❤
They have just enough comedy in this!! And the Ghoul by far is my favorite
Nerd moment: PIP (or PIP-Boy) stands for Personal Information Processor.
When wandering the wasteland players often have little they can trust beyond their handy Pip Boy. Not only does it cater to their every inquiry regarding their health status, inventory and objectives, it comes with a handy radio able to pick up all sorts of signals in the wild. Sometimes hidden quests are revealed by being in proximity, but there will almost undoubtedly be someone dedicated to being a DJ and playing tunes to help the survivors of the wasteland get through the day to day.
The songs in the show are all lifted from the various radio stations that have been in the Fallout Games, along with a few other tunes. The aesthetic of the universe is one that is futuristic technology based on the 1940s-50s idea of what the future would be like. The overall style of things as they were before the bombs helps lend to the biting satire and commentary of the Cold War era notions of atomic doomsday which is what the Fallout series was built upon, and if nothing else the music of those eras definitely hits home the point of the games settings as an alternate universe that might, and could still happen.
That was the joke; that the guy was playing the Minutemen Radio songs. Nobody listens to that channel in game, due to the constant "settlers need help" quests that pop up when you do listen. I think the "people get fully mad" is a joke about Minutemen Radio, not the music itself.
“Looking forward to the High-Jinks this episode” is unintentional foreshadowing, because Ella Purnell played Jinx in Arcane and later in this episode, she gets high…
Funny thing: The development of the Blue LED was so incredibly hard, that basically every company on the planet dropped the idea.
Just one crazy guy experimented his ass off and persuaded enough people to give him money so he could make the breakthrough.
Without him, we would still have this only-green (or red) displays today and technology development would be at a way different point in general.
It’s interesting at the end with cooper (the ghoul). I felt like his past self was talking to him pointing the gun at him
Lucy's kindness starts to change The Ghoul back toward Coop. Martha's irredeemability (despite Lucy's effort) starts to change Lucy into a wastelander
The show did so well because most people have never seen the Wasteland, so it's something fresh & new. Once that wears off, it'll just be us normal Wastelanders again.
Why replace her missing finger? A lot of people bring this up. It was an easy way to get her to lower her guard. Bring her to the medical bay and on a bed. Then sedating her. Smart programing for that robot.
"I think she shows what's really happening." Yeah, you could say that.
Just so you guys know this show is base on the Fallout franchise games but its not a story from any specific game that they have released. This shows writing expands on the lore of the game while also being its own story. Its not like the last of us.
There are basicly 3 kinds of ghouls, the ones like "The Ghoul" the sentient humanoid, then there are 2 kinds of feral ghouls who has lost all sense of humanity and are basically just animals, the regular feral ghouls and the radiated ones. Ghouls who has been exposed to soo mych radiation that the are glowing green and are much stronger and are radioactive themselves.
Yall have some badass nicknames
31:36 they are writing on their own… this is an original story just tying it back to the rest of the lore.
"Golden Rule, Motherfucker" is possibly the best line in the episode, maybe the entire series. It sums up Lucy's character perfectly.
Well, "Ass jerky don't make itself" was quite memorable too. 😂
Oak was talking about this in his wrap up, and I really think that Vault 32 had no birth control available and went through surges of over population and anarchy, then being restored. Vault 33 did have plenty of birth control and were encouraged to have sex as a normal thing, thus why Lucy and Chet had been fooling around for ten years but never got Lucy pregnant. (More thoughts to come on this topic in future episodes).
For your information going forward, the series here is not one of the games as a show it’s a canon story that takes place in the same world but with a different cast. It is part of Fallout though.
The guys were using the robot to harvest organs. While they didn't seem that smart during that scene, you need to remember that they were clearly using some of the drugs they had all around the couch, so they probably weren't fully sober during that scene.
There were a bunch of firsts for Lucy in this episode. Two stand out as key moments of character development for her.
First is that Martha is the first person Lucy killed. Before that she was using her tranq-gun. Now she has a regular firearm.
Second is "Golden Rule, Motherfucker." That was the first time I think she actually used foul language.
Man, I love rhubarb reminds me of my grandma we'd eat it raw out the ground so we didnt have to go inside for lunch/snack and could keep playing😂 gotta like sour things
For "writing for themselves" you guys should know they are! This is a completely new story, adjacent to the video game world/lore but completely new and original, not based on an existing game but developing in the same world! :D
Regarding the soundtrack, these actual songs are part of the game's music because you have a radio in-game that you will likely tune on as you wander the wastelands and it has these specific iconic songs.
My great grandma was famous for her strawberry rhubarb cake. It was amazing.
Enough sugar will fix anything 😊
The Radiation King TV in the games is a reference to the TV brand in The Simpsons.
I think the reason Snip-Snip put the finger back on was to show that these robots are smart, but not human smart. Some of their logic doesn’t quite hit the mark. It’s the same thing with the robots in the game. You can find a robot still cleaning up the house after the bombs went off, or everyone is dead and they are waiting to be told they can go home, etc.
Hackers was my favorite movie growing up. 😊
I have been eating rhubarb since I was a little kid. I would pull it straight out of the ground from the patch in my mom's backyard, rinse it off with the hose, and eat it then and there. I love it, I love the tartness. I have a patch in my backyard. I'm not only eat it raw, but I make lots of stuff with it. Yummy!
I honestly think he took the jello mold cake to make his fellow vault folks angry. Convince someone else to poison them?
4:55 As a fellow Wisconsinite, Rhubarb is amazing with or without sugar. I eat that shit straight from the plant.
the exact same songs from the game love it!
Ghouls turn feral, like zombies. Most try to conrinue to remember their name to keep the humanity. Its honestly tragic. 🥺
Lucy and Ghoul parallel going. Mirroring each other.
Love the reaction!! ❤This show is just done great!
Fan Theory on Snip Snip replacing Lucy's finger:
Snip Snip was originally programmed as a medical robot and that is still his primary programming. The stoners added their own subroutines for harvesting human organs. Since medical care is his primary function, Snip Snip takes care of that first and then proceeds with his new programming to harvest organs.
He didn't take the box because in the Fallout games you can't pick up a container, only the stuff in the container. 😉
He put the finger on so she was "mint condition".
The problem the Ghoul has now is, the guys who made the vials are dead now, so who’s he going to get new vials from when his new supply eventually runs out. Will he end up going feral.
I think the Enclave, where Wiltzig and Four/Dogmeat escaped from, probably created the vials for the ghouls. I haven't played the game, but the Enclave seems to be the source of a lot of things in the Fallout world.
Steph came to Chet's quarters with the intention of moving in.
She didn't want to just give him Bert's shoes, she wanted him to walk in them.
Betty is "Blind Al" from Deadpool.
First of all: This story is almost entirely original. It takes place in the same world as the games, but these are completely new characters and there's just some in-world references to nod at us nerds.
Secondly: "War... war never changes".
it still blows my mind that Lucy and Jinx are the same actress
oh, man, rhubarb pie is my favorite (and no damned strawberries in it!!!)
This is an original story taking place about 15 years after the closest game.
I don't think The Ghoul wanted to haul a heavy wooden box around with him. It's not like he has a horse to help carry it (they don't exist in the Fallout universe post bombs).😊
This is based on the world but not on any game. So the writers have to love the game and the lore and just wrote a great script.
The show is serveral years after the last game so its kinda new for us cause we see what happened later.
Rhubarb slander! I haven't had rhubarb pie since I was a kid and now I really want some...