Sometimes war is easier, because it's conscious and there are other people suffering together. I get to events like my favorite toy being taken by my mum because she thought it was old and broken. There were worse things happening,but my psyche connected safety with that toy and loosing it was worse than being hungry.
Thank you for this video. I have fibromyalgia, and at the moment I am just surviving. My dad was an alcoholic, and to say my childhood was turbulent may be an understatement. My mom died last May, my dad last June, and my husband was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer last July. He has been in hospital for more than 5 weeks now, and had blood clots in his lungs and brain. At the moment he can't get up, and he is very weak. I need to be his rock, but I am a mess. I am still going to see him every day, chin up, but I collapse as soon as I get home. I will work through your videos.
Bingo. I have had fibromyalgia for 4 years and I do agree that it is a "brace" feeling. I have debilitating fatigue so it was interesting for me when you said the body eventually stops trying. Like a learned helplessness. I also get frequent nightmares of being hunted and I often dread going to sleep, so that matches up with what you said about sleep being a time for processing. Very interesting. Thank you for using fibromyalgia as a specific example, this really helped.
Thank you for sharing this. I really relate to your experiences, it's nice to feel understood but it's also something I pray we both find healing from.
I agree with this. And sometimes the 'less intense' can be worse for a person, if only in that, it may be that they may never understand why they have an issue and feel shame and struggle always thinking it is their fault.
Honestly, the more i learn about this the more hopeless it makes me feel. Im on my healing journey now, but with over two decades worth of trauma to heal it makes me wonder how long it'll take when i seem to be more connecting more and more things within my body to trauma responses
Sineade Williams, Jen here from Team Lyon. I hear you that learning more can contribute to feelings of hopelessness. This changes that result from engaging with this nervous system work can take time, and the changes to usually happen for those of us who stick with it. I will add that the part that often gets overlooked in somatic work where can be a lot of emphasis on feeling what's happening in the body is the part that involves growing the capacity to hold all that we're feeling and experiencing. This can make a big difference, especially for those of use who have a history that includes early developmental trauma (EDT). I'll link to a few related resources in case you'd like to learn more. How to build somatic and nervous system capacity - irenelyon.com/2022/01/16/how-to-build-somatic-and-nervous-system-capacity/ How to Build Capacity to Heal Anxiety - ua-cam.com/video/JaPd4bnv-wU/v-deo.html Q&A w/ Irene, Seth, & Janice. Special focus on healing early & developmental trauma - ua-cam.com/video/78Qix0D6eLk/v-deo.html
Thanks Irene I’ve been staying with my 86 yo dad for last 2 weeks while step mom is in hospital, and the lack of connection, quality conversation or any interest in my personal life, has me all wadded up with resistance 😣 my back and knees hurt, my heart is racing and last night I ate a huge cookie with tons of frosting, just to distract from my internal landscape. Feeling guilt bc he’s old and nice and some memory loss but also re-angered at his passive, limp way of relating and surface level small talk…this helps so much thank you 🙏
That is really interesting. I felt a bit the same with my father before he died. I wonder if a lot of children feel this way with their emotionally out of touch elderly fathers (or mothers). It seems tolerable when we and they are young, they still seem to hold some potential of connection within them. We think ‘one day we’ll connect at a meaningful level’. But they get old and frail and you realise they are actually incapable of connecting. They haven’t done the inner work, they don’t even understand anything deep, they don’t know you or anything about your life, and you realise it is too late. There is no potential left. And to add insult to injury, they become weak and dependent & you now feel an expectation and sense of obligation to look after them - and you think not only did they not look after you when you were a young beautiful child and needed it, but now you’re supposed to look after them! And if you feel resentment you also feel guilty for not wanting to look after this decrepit frail old man /woman. I might be taking this a bit far, but my father was highly narcissistic when I was a child and clearly wasn’t interested in me as a child, so I did resent feeling as though now I had to act in a kind benevolent way. In reality my mother did most of the caregiving in his later years.
Thank you for this video ... finally someone is really getting to the root of fibromyalgia Ive been living with this for 15 years and its been terrible .. Even while getting a massage i would never be able to relax ... its like ive been in a hyper state for all my life and even otherwise relaxing activities like massage or music never completely helped ... Now i understand the issue is a lot deeper .. thank you!
I love you so much. You just explained what's wrong with me😭❤. This is it. These are my symptoms. The tightness around the heart, feeling deep visceral movements near my bones in my pelvis, the brace and collapse sensations, the inability to function during daytime and extreme fatigue. This is it. I had been doing trauma work on my own and processed so many of my traumas that I got to nonverbal trauma. I knew it was nonverbal trauma because traumas were coming up but I could no longer pinpoint at what age that trauma occurred. Thank you so much, I now know what to tell doctors about my symptoms. Thank you so much Irene❤
I am SOO HAPPY you are here Irene. THIS IS IMPORTANT TOO!!!!! I’ve been following you…. Forever. Your teachings are a BIG part of what finally made my acceptance of the trauma I had… real. Real enough that I could actually start the healing and repair of my nervous system. I’ve been working at now since 2018, with severe GAD and chronic dizziness symptoms. But it wasn’t until about 14 months ago that I “GOT IT” . I came face to face with my trauma’s and my life consequences now at 69.. It’s very hard to “ LOOK” at it all😢, but ALL worth it to find ourselves “ WHOLE” again, body.. mind.. soul. We either can’t face things… ( me) or have shoved it all down( me)… found ways to cope with survival stress( me) or can’t handle it all, ( me) until… Well, we can, or life says we MUST. The pieces finally fit and I am getting there. Huge progress actually in this 14 month time. And I have environmental ( living situation)issues to navigate through also. I’m gonna get there! You are so brilliant my Irene from the bottom of my ❤… I thank you. And I’ve done this all through the videos and your teaching me.
This is so inspiring to hear Eileen! Thanks for sharing :) It sounds like you may already have some good support, but I wanted to make sure you knew about my online programs, just in case. My 12 week intensive curriculum, SmartBody SmartMind actually closes for registration tonight at midnight, so if you are interested in doing deeper work with me, I'll invite you to check it out. smartbodysmartmind.com/ No pressure, and if you are interested but see this message too late, just email support@irenelyon.com and they will help you out! To your continued healing no matter which path you take!! Thanks for being here.
What hit me here was the mention of dry mouth and dry eyes. When I was in my teens I developed a dry mouth and couldn’t drink enough water to sort it. Now, I suffer with chronic pain, fatigue and dry eyes / allergic reactions to things in the environment. Thanks for putting the pieces together.
I have lived with the discomfort of it for nearly 4 years now. I embarked on the SBSM work in September 2022. The course work can be intense so going at one’s own pace is desirable. I reached a stage at one point where I felt regulation of sorts. I could actually let go of some of the tension on non work days and not be scared by tension that came with activities such as mild gardening. But then work became stressful between November and December and the regulation wheels fell off. Since SBSM finished I have been catching up on content I missed. I find the neurosensory exercises most helpful especially the gut-brain awareness and the diaphragms. Some days when I practise them I can feel regulation. Other times not. It is almost like feeling it when you do the exercises without a set outcome in mind. Sadly there is much too much discomfort all over me and in more places than before. Have to dig deep to feel ok.
When my doctor put me on "pain management" at least she knew it was my trauma that was causing the pain. If only they could have done something about my complex stress and continued trauma instead. Ten years later, they traumatized me more by removing my doctor for having me on deadly combinations of drugs and pulling my management. I still live in the hope of real care and healing that I could not receive on my income.
@Edie, Jen Greer from Team Lyon. I'm sorry to hear about all that you've been though. I'm glad you found Irene's teachings here. I wanted to make sure you knew about the free resources Irene offers. Here are a few links: New Here? - irenelyon.com/new-here/ Free resource center - irenelyon.com/free-resources/ UA-cam Playlist of Neurosensory Exercises - ua-cam.com/play/PL_tIcR-r0CU5Xss_Mq1buU-tWdYVQksjI.html
I notice almost every night, when I am about to fall asleep that I tighten up almost my whole body, and I have to keep catching myself and telling myself to relax. It happens unconsciously when I’m about to fall asleep.
Hi Wendy, Seth here with Team Lyon. This is a very common experience. It is your sympathetic nervous system (unresolved fight/flight survival energy) revving up as the system lets its guard down while passing into sleep.
@@kathleengalek1064 , if you feel revved up just before falling asleep, you might move a bit, either by moving in bed or by getting up and actually moving around. Then doing something that supports your nervous system in settling may be helpful. You might have practices that work for you, and I'll link to a few of Irene's free resources you can check out too. Know that these tips are very high level - everyone's physiology is different and this work can be quite nuanced. Learning about this work and how to work with your own physiology is the optimal way to support yourself. You can do this by diving into Irene's free resource, joining the course she created to teach people to so this (The 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up), or by working with a trained practitioner. 7 Steps to De-Stress - irenelyon.com/7-steps-opt-in-IL DIY: Ancient Anxiety Medicine - ua-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/v-deo.html 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up - 21daytuneup.com/ - Jen from Team Lyon
@@IreneLyon thank you so much!! I just watched the “ancient wisdom” video and it really helped to center me. I look forward to learning more in your programs!
I have Fibromyalgia and am doing well now but I wished to say that I am a highly sensitive person and that I was lucky to have been part of an association of people with the same illness and it was clear to us all that we were all highly sensitive people and more prone to this sort of condition ❤😊
Irene, thank you for the in-dept talk about Fibromyalgia and the fight, flight, freeze that is associated with it. I stopped trying to show people that I am not feel ing well. I look young for my age, have healthy thinking so therefor no proof of pain over 20 years now. As of last year my right knee has double the size of my left knee and people have taken notice and more sympathetic to their previous disbelief. I will be well one day, so glad I found you on UA-cam and will be investing in myself to take your upcoming course and books you mention. I have spent thousands of dollars taking supplements, hypnosis, therapy, books, classes and almost gave up. I am going to keep believing there is a way to get relief. Thank you for all you do. I hope to be of service to others like me one day.
Miss Dragonflies, Jen here from Team Lyon. I'm really sorry to hear about the pain you've experienced for over two decades now. I'm glad you found us here, and it's great to hear that you're looking into Irene's course. This work has been transformational for many of us, and may it be so for you too. If you're looking for a way to get started, you might check out The 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up as that can be a great place to start. It's a self-study course that you can begin at any time and more through at your own pace. You also have the opportunity to ask questions about your experience and receive answers from trained Nervous System practitioners. Here's a link in case you want to learn more - 21daytuneup.com/
I have had work done on my fascia. I have lots of scarring in my fascia that was revealed when I had some scraping of areas done. Although it broke up significant scar tissue it did not help my widespread muscle pain. I do not recall being in a physical accident that would have caused such widespread scarring. I have been diagnosed with Fibro several years ago. I have also had lifelong depression.
The thing with the label fibromyalgia is that it holds people back from attending to the trauma inside and steers attention to their physical suffering. Doesn't sound nice but it tends to keep them in victim mode. A term like trauma related pain would be better
Thank you so much, Irene. This feels like an important missing piece . . a deeper dive into understanding fibromyalgia and that hope comes after understanding. And now . . to take that book off my shelf and turn to page 218!
Thank you so much Irene for these infos. I have been living with fibromyalgia and looking for answers…. I will get the book that you recommend. I found myself so much in many things you said…. I need guidance…. Thank you so much.
Hi Julie, Seth here with Team Lyon. So glad you found this video useful! If you want to get the best guidance available, and start doing this work so you can recover from the fibromyalgia, you have good timing. Our 12 week intensive program, SmartBody SmartMind (smartbodysmartmind.com/)is still open for registration until midnight Pacific Time tonight. If you don't see this message in time and want to join, just email support@irenelyon.com and they will help you out.
Interested to hear your thoughts on things like MCAS or MCS. I know people heal either partially or fully with nervous system work. My system sees everything as a threat now and over reacts to tiny amounts of stimuli weather it’s food, supplements, meds, allergens like pollen, smells, emotional stress, you name it.
Hi Liz, Seth here with Team Lyon. Yes, I've worked with many clients with one or both of these. Essentially, this is hypervigilance all the way at the cellular level. This work can definitely help! And sometimes a multi level approach is needed as well. IF you want to get into this work you have good timing. Doors close for SmartBody SmartMind (smartbodysmartmind.com/) registration at midnight tonight PT. If you want to join but don't see this in time, just email support@irenelyon.com and they will help you out.
Here is my story: I had a horrible psychotic break on ayahuasca almost 8 years ago. Since then I have been struggling terribly. I feel like a 100-year-old Alzheimer's patient. My entire body is in terrible pain and I can hardly walk. I definitely cannot work. I asked my mother about my childhood. She told me that when I was about 1 year old, I was in my crib next to her bed. I was asking her to give me her hand (apparently, I liked to hold her hand) but my father did not let her do it. He kept saying, "Do not spoil him". She burst into tears and ran out of the house and left me alone with him back then.
Hi Soprotivleniye, Seth here with Team Lyon. So sorry to hear about this. You are certainly not alone! Irene actually did an interview with someone who had a similar experience with Ayahuasca, and they talked about how this work we do can help! ua-cam.com/video/CGtkewe5N2Y/v-deo.html
I have fibromyalgia & I know it’s about the fight or flight. I had a very traumatic early childhood & have worked hard for years in therapy. I was listening to you reading & ‘hyperactivity’ got my attention. I was diagnosed as a child with it (now ADHD). Do you think this hyperactive state could be related to that fight or flight energy? I do know that the freeze response was there but this energy I had, could it also be a part of that? It really got my attention.
Hi Kim, yes, for sure. We do find a link between ADHD (and ADD) and survival responses, specifically sympathetic nervous system (SNS) activation and the flight response. Here’s a link in case you want to learn more: Is it possible to cure ADD & ADHD with Irene Lyon - ua-cam.com/video/FJp03vgELDY/v-deo.html
I read that if you have problems falling asleep it's b/c your cortisol level is high. Which means you're in the flight or fight mode. Maybe figuriing out what event earlier in the day triggered your fight/flight response and resolve it? For instance coffee will increase your cortisol level. Also eating fat (like a few pats of butter) can reduce your cortisol lever. (Fat will not raise your glucose level.)
Ah! I found one by Dr Robert Scaer on the SBSM recommended reading - The Trauma Spectrum: Hidden Wounds and Human Resiliency, 2005. Is that the right one?
I was always taught to never compare your trauma with someone else’s. One person that has physical or sexual abuse can be just as traumatizing can be just as damaging as harsh words to someone else. I’m curious as to why many fibro tends to run in the family. Also, I remember having fibro pain since I was 2 yrs old. Pls don’t tell me it’s a past life issue.
Hi SekiSchro, Seth here with Team Lyon. Sadly, no. You may be able to start the process, but there is no way to fully heal if your home environment is not safe. It may be helpful to read this article of mine.... sethlyon.com/sometimes-break-family/
Hi Ivan, it really depends on the person, their history, and their nervous system. For some people, the 21 Day Tune Up is all they need to realize the shifts they want to create. For others, the more comprehensive approach offered in SmartBody SmartMind makes the difference. In either case, the 21Day Tune Up is a great way to start to build a foundation, both in terms of education and practice. I’ll link to some 21 Day Success Stories in case you want to hear from some people in the course. - Jen from Team Lyon 21daytuneup.com/success-stories/
Thanks for addressing the stress but there's also a physical reason which is taboo to address. Fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue (and lyme) are also common among these mostly middle class people who get every stupid shot that medicine offers. In some of those shots, there are toxic @djuvants like al and mercury. So, they also need to help their livers detox with NAC, vitamin d3+k2, vitamin C.
Yeah, and we're also surrounded by toxins all the time, so even if we avoid shots, we still need to help our bodies detox. I have the MTHFR gene mutation which also causes my body to not be able to detox effectively, so even though I avoid allopathic medicine as much as humanly possible, I still struggle with fatigue, brain fog, depression etc etc. I'm having to take antibiotics for the first time in 10+ years and they're really messing me up. Gotta majorly detox after this...they'd better at least do what they're supposed to because so far I'm barely seeing results, just side effect of exhaustion, brain fog and depression. I can't imagine what these things do to people who take them regularly. Unfortunately we're living in a very toxic world, both emotionally and chemically.
Bailey here from Team Lyon. If you head on over to irenelyon.com, click on the Blog, search 'Titration' and you will find a few videos on the subject. Hope this helps!
Sometimes war is easier, because it's conscious and there are other people suffering together. I get to events like my favorite toy being taken by my mum because she thought it was old and broken. There were worse things happening,but my psyche connected safety with that toy and loosing it was worse than being hungry.
Thank you for this video. I have fibromyalgia, and at the moment I am just surviving. My dad was an alcoholic, and to say my childhood was turbulent may be an understatement. My mom died last May, my dad last June, and my husband was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer last July. He has been in hospital for more than 5 weeks now, and had blood clots in his lungs and brain. At the moment he can't get up, and he is very weak. I need to be his rock, but I am a mess. I am still going to see him every day, chin up, but I collapse as soon as I get home. I will work through your videos.
Bingo. I have had fibromyalgia for 4 years and I do agree that it is a "brace" feeling. I have debilitating fatigue so it was interesting for me when you said the body eventually stops trying. Like a learned helplessness. I also get frequent nightmares of being hunted and I often dread going to sleep, so that matches up with what you said about sleep being a time for processing. Very interesting. Thank you for using fibromyalgia as a specific example, this really helped.
Thank you for sharing this. I really relate to your experiences, it's nice to feel understood but it's also something I pray we both find healing from.
I had the same thing with sleeping. I could sleep with the light off only once i was 32
@@arcadia9424 i dont have it anymore though i am still alert. We heal!!
I agree with this. And sometimes the 'less intense' can be worse for a person, if only in that, it may be that they may never understand why they have an issue and feel shame and struggle always thinking it is their fault.
I still get in denial about my having fibromyalgia even though I have been diagnosed, it was relieving to hear this. Thanks Irene!
Honestly, the more i learn about this the more hopeless it makes me feel. Im on my healing journey now, but with over two decades worth of trauma to heal it makes me wonder how long it'll take when i seem to be more connecting more and more things within my body to trauma responses
Sineade Williams, Jen here from Team Lyon. I hear you that learning more can contribute to feelings of hopelessness. This changes that result from engaging with this nervous system work can take time, and the changes to usually happen for those of us who stick with it.
I will add that the part that often gets overlooked in somatic work where can be a lot of emphasis on feeling what's happening in the body is the part that involves growing the capacity to hold all that we're feeling and experiencing. This can make a big difference, especially for those of use who have a history that includes early developmental trauma (EDT). I'll link to a few related resources in case you'd like to learn more.
How to build somatic and nervous system capacity - irenelyon.com/2022/01/16/how-to-build-somatic-and-nervous-system-capacity/
How to Build Capacity to Heal Anxiety - ua-cam.com/video/JaPd4bnv-wU/v-deo.html
Q&A w/ Irene, Seth, & Janice. Special focus on healing early & developmental trauma - ua-cam.com/video/78Qix0D6eLk/v-deo.html
Thanks Irene I’ve been staying with my 86 yo dad for last 2 weeks while step mom is in hospital, and the lack of connection, quality conversation or any interest in my personal life, has me all wadded up with resistance 😣 my back and knees hurt, my heart is racing and last night I ate a huge cookie with tons of frosting, just to distract from my internal landscape. Feeling guilt bc he’s old and nice and some memory loss but also re-angered at his passive, limp way of relating and surface level small talk…this helps so much thank you 🙏
Rachel, it sounds like your stay is touching into a lot. Time with family can do that! Great to hear Irene's video helped. - Jen from Team Lyon
That is really interesting. I felt a bit the same with my father before he died. I wonder if a lot of children feel this way with their emotionally out of touch elderly fathers (or mothers). It seems tolerable when we and they are young, they still seem to hold some potential of connection within them. We think ‘one day we’ll connect at a meaningful level’. But they get old and frail and you realise they are actually incapable of connecting. They haven’t done the inner work, they don’t even understand anything deep, they don’t know you or anything about your life, and you realise it is too late. There is no potential left. And to add insult to injury, they become weak and dependent & you now feel an expectation and sense of obligation to look after them - and you think not only did they not look after you when you were a young beautiful child and needed it, but now you’re supposed to look after them! And if you feel resentment you also feel guilty for not wanting to look after this decrepit frail old man /woman. I might be taking this a bit far, but my father was highly narcissistic when I was a child and clearly wasn’t interested in me as a child, so I did resent feeling as though now I had to act in a kind benevolent way. In reality my mother did most of the caregiving in his later years.
Thank you for this video ... finally someone is really getting to the root of fibromyalgia
Ive been living with this for 15 years and its been terrible ..
Even while getting a massage i would never be able to relax ... its like ive been in a hyper state for all my life and even otherwise relaxing activities like massage or music never completely helped ...
Now i understand the issue is a lot deeper .. thank you!
I love you so much. You just explained what's wrong with me😭❤. This is it. These are my symptoms. The tightness around the heart, feeling deep visceral movements near my bones in my pelvis, the brace and collapse sensations, the inability to function during daytime and extreme fatigue. This is it. I had been doing trauma work on my own and processed so many of my traumas that I got to nonverbal trauma. I knew it was nonverbal trauma because traumas were coming up but I could no longer pinpoint at what age that trauma occurred. Thank you so much, I now know what to tell doctors about my symptoms. Thank you so much Irene❤
I can't tell you what a relief it is to hear someone finally speaking sense.... Thank you🙏
I am SOO HAPPY you are here Irene. THIS IS IMPORTANT TOO!!!!!
I’ve been following you….
Forever. Your teachings are a BIG part of what finally made my acceptance of the trauma I had… real. Real enough that I could actually start the healing and repair of my nervous system. I’ve been working at now since 2018, with severe GAD and chronic dizziness symptoms. But it wasn’t until about 14 months ago that I
“GOT IT” . I came face to face with my trauma’s and my life consequences now at 69..
It’s very hard to “ LOOK” at it all😢, but ALL worth it to find ourselves “ WHOLE” again, body.. mind.. soul. We either can’t face things… ( me) or have shoved it all down( me)… found ways to cope with survival stress( me) or can’t handle it all, ( me) until…
Well, we can, or life says we MUST.
The pieces finally fit and I am getting there. Huge progress actually in this 14 month time. And I have environmental ( living situation)issues to navigate through also.
I’m gonna get there!
You are so brilliant my Irene from the bottom of my ❤…
I thank you. And I’ve done this all through the videos and your teaching me.
This is so inspiring to hear Eileen! Thanks for sharing :)
It sounds like you may already have some good support, but I wanted to make sure you knew about my online programs, just in case.
My 12 week intensive curriculum, SmartBody SmartMind actually closes for registration tonight at midnight, so if you are interested in doing deeper work with me, I'll invite you to check it out. smartbodysmartmind.com/
No pressure, and if you are interested but see this message too late, just email support@irenelyon.com and they will help you out!
To your continued healing no matter which path you take!! Thanks for being here.
What hit me here was the mention of dry mouth and dry eyes. When I was in my teens I developed a dry mouth and couldn’t drink enough water to sort it. Now, I suffer with chronic pain, fatigue and dry eyes / allergic reactions to things in the environment. Thanks for putting the pieces together.
Do you take medications for your symptoms? When I was on those my eyes, mouth, and entire body were dry.
Sometimes you need more healthy fats very important forbrain and entire body and to lubricate the body
I have lived with the discomfort of it for nearly 4 years now. I embarked on the SBSM work in September 2022. The course work can be intense so going at one’s own pace is desirable. I reached a stage at one point where I felt regulation of sorts. I could actually let go of some of the tension on non work days and not be scared by tension that came with activities such as mild gardening. But then work became stressful between November and December and the regulation wheels fell off. Since SBSM finished I have been catching up on content I missed. I find the neurosensory exercises most helpful especially the gut-brain awareness and the diaphragms.
Some days when I practise them I can feel regulation. Other times not. It is almost like feeling it when you do the exercises without a set outcome in mind. Sadly there is much too much discomfort all over me and in more places than before. Have to dig deep to feel ok.
When my doctor put me on "pain management" at least she knew it was my trauma that was causing the pain. If only they could have done something about my complex stress and continued trauma instead. Ten years later, they traumatized me more by removing my doctor for having me on deadly combinations of drugs and pulling my management. I still live in the hope of real care and healing that I could not receive on my income.
@Edie, Jen Greer from Team Lyon. I'm sorry to hear about all that you've been though. I'm glad you found Irene's teachings here. I wanted to make sure you knew about the free resources Irene offers. Here are a few links:
New Here? - irenelyon.com/new-here/
Free resource center - irenelyon.com/free-resources/
UA-cam Playlist of Neurosensory Exercises - ua-cam.com/play/PL_tIcR-r0CU5Xss_Mq1buU-tWdYVQksjI.html
@@IreneLyon, Wow! Thank you, I really appreciate this, you've brought tears to my eyes. I will look into these. Much Love
I notice almost every night, when I am about to fall asleep that I tighten up almost my whole body, and I have to keep catching myself and telling myself to relax. It happens unconsciously when I’m about to fall asleep.
Hi Wendy, Seth here with Team Lyon. This is a very common experience. It is your sympathetic nervous system (unresolved fight/flight survival energy) revving up as the system lets its guard down while passing into sleep.
@@IreneLyonthanks for sharing this! What’s a suggestion on how to address this sensation just before falling to sleep? Thank you!
@@kathleengalek1064 , if you feel revved up just before falling asleep, you might move a bit, either by moving in bed or by getting up and actually moving around. Then doing something that supports your nervous system in settling may be helpful. You might have practices that work for you, and I'll link to a few of Irene's free resources you can check out too.
Know that these tips are very high level - everyone's physiology is different and this work can be quite nuanced. Learning about this work and how to work with your own physiology is the optimal way to support yourself. You can do this by diving into Irene's free resource, joining the course she created to teach people to so this (The 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up), or by working with a trained practitioner.
7 Steps to De-Stress - irenelyon.com/7-steps-opt-in-IL
DIY: Ancient Anxiety Medicine - ua-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/v-deo.html
21 Day Nervous System Tune Up - 21daytuneup.com/
- Jen from Team Lyon
@@IreneLyon thank you so much!! I just watched the “ancient wisdom” video and it really helped to center me. I look forward to learning more in your programs!
I have Fibromyalgia and am doing well now but I wished to say that I am a highly sensitive person and that I was lucky to have been part of an association of people with the same illness and it was clear to us all that we were all highly sensitive people and more prone to this sort of condition ❤😊
@22:40
“Post traumatic Autonomic Illness” feels like a helpful phrase for this work
Thank you so much for this.
Irene, thank you for the in-dept talk about Fibromyalgia and the fight, flight, freeze that is associated with it. I stopped trying to show people that I am not feel ing well. I look young for my age, have healthy thinking so therefor no proof of pain over 20 years now. As of last year my right knee has double the size of my left knee and people have taken notice and more sympathetic to their previous disbelief. I will be well one day, so glad I found you on UA-cam and will be investing in myself to take your upcoming course and books you mention. I have spent thousands of dollars taking supplements, hypnosis, therapy, books, classes and almost gave up. I am going to keep believing there is a way to get relief. Thank you for all you do. I hope to be of service to others like me one day.
Miss Dragonflies, Jen here from Team Lyon. I'm really sorry to hear about the pain you've experienced for over two decades now. I'm glad you found us here, and it's great to hear that you're looking into Irene's course. This work has been transformational for many of us, and may it be so for you too.
If you're looking for a way to get started, you might check out The 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up as that can be a great place to start. It's a self-study course that you can begin at any time and more through at your own pace. You also have the opportunity to ask questions about your experience and receive answers from trained Nervous System practitioners.
Here's a link in case you want to learn more - 21daytuneup.com/
I have had work done on my fascia. I have lots of scarring in my fascia that was revealed when I had some scraping of areas done. Although it broke up significant scar tissue it did not help my widespread muscle pain. I do not recall being in a physical accident that would have caused such widespread scarring. I have been diagnosed with Fibro several years ago. I have also had lifelong depression.
The thing with the label fibromyalgia is that it holds people back from attending to the trauma inside and steers attention to their physical suffering. Doesn't sound nice but it tends to keep them in victim mode. A term like trauma related pain would be better
Thank you so much, Irene. This feels like an important missing piece . . a deeper dive into understanding fibromyalgia and that hope comes after understanding. And now . . to take that book off my shelf and turn to page 218!
Thank you for this. I appreciate this so much. 🙏
Thank you so much Irene for these infos. I have been living with fibromyalgia and looking for answers…. I will get the book that you recommend. I found myself so much in many things you said…. I need guidance…. Thank you so much.
Hi Julie, Seth here with Team Lyon. So glad you found this video useful! If you want to get the best guidance available, and start doing this work so you can recover from the fibromyalgia, you have good timing. Our 12 week intensive program, SmartBody SmartMind (smartbodysmartmind.com/)is still open for registration until midnight Pacific Time tonight. If you don't see this message in time and want to join, just email support@irenelyon.com and they will help you out.
Gracias Irene and team Lyon! 😊👏💜
Interested to hear your thoughts on things like MCAS or MCS. I know people heal either partially or fully with nervous system work. My system sees everything as a threat now and over reacts to tiny amounts of stimuli weather it’s food, supplements, meds, allergens like pollen, smells, emotional stress, you name it.
Hi Liz, Seth here with Team Lyon. Yes, I've worked with many clients with one or both of these. Essentially, this is hypervigilance all the way at the cellular level. This work can definitely help! And sometimes a multi level approach is needed as well. IF you want to get into this work you have good timing. Doors close for SmartBody SmartMind (smartbodysmartmind.com/) registration at midnight tonight PT. If you want to join but don't see this in time, just email support@irenelyon.com and they will help you out.
Here is my story: I had a horrible psychotic break on ayahuasca almost 8 years ago. Since then I have been struggling terribly. I feel like a 100-year-old Alzheimer's patient. My entire body is in terrible pain and I can hardly walk. I definitely cannot work.
I asked my mother about my childhood. She told me that when I was about 1 year old, I was in my crib next to her bed. I was asking her to give me her hand (apparently, I liked to hold her hand) but my father did not let her do it. He kept saying, "Do not spoil him". She burst into tears and ran out of the house and left me alone with him back then.
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Hi Soprotivleniye, Seth here with Team Lyon. So sorry to hear about this. You are certainly not alone! Irene actually did an interview with someone who had a similar experience with Ayahuasca, and they talked about how this work we do can help! ua-cam.com/video/CGtkewe5N2Y/v-deo.html
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I have fibromyalgia & I know it’s about the fight or flight. I had a very traumatic early childhood & have worked hard for years in therapy. I was listening to you reading & ‘hyperactivity’ got my attention. I was diagnosed as a child with it (now ADHD). Do you think this hyperactive state could be related to that fight or flight energy? I do know that the freeze response was there but this energy I had, could it also be a part of that? It really got my attention.
Hi Kim, yes, for sure. We do find a link between ADHD (and ADD) and survival responses, specifically sympathetic nervous system (SNS) activation and the flight response. Here’s a link in case you want to learn more:
Is it possible to cure ADD & ADHD with Irene Lyon - ua-cam.com/video/FJp03vgELDY/v-deo.html
What about insomnia please? Anyone 🙏🤗
I read that if you have problems falling asleep it's b/c your cortisol level is high. Which means you're in the flight or fight mode. Maybe figuriing out what event earlier in the day triggered your fight/flight response and resolve it? For instance coffee will increase your cortisol level. Also eating fat (like a few pats of butter) can reduce your cortisol lever. (Fat will not raise your glucose level.)
Wow such a good and informative video!
Could you please tell us the author and title of the book you read from. A Dr Scarey?
Ah! I found one by Dr Robert Scaer on the SBSM recommended reading - The Trauma Spectrum: Hidden Wounds and Human Resiliency, 2005. Is that the right one?
I was always taught to never compare your trauma with someone else’s. One person that has physical or sexual abuse can be just as traumatizing can be just as damaging as harsh words to someone else. I’m curious as to why many fibro tends to run in the family. Also, I remember having fibro pain since I was 2 yrs old. Pls don’t tell me it’s a past life issue.
can i still heal my nervous system while i am still living with an abuser/ narcissist?
Hi SekiSchro, Seth here with Team Lyon. Sadly, no. You may be able to start the process, but there is no way to fully heal if your home environment is not safe. It may be helpful to read this article of mine.... sethlyon.com/sometimes-break-family/
How much would your 21 day tune up address this? :)
Hi Ivan, it really depends on the person, their history, and their nervous system. For some people, the 21 Day Tune Up is all they need to realize the shifts they want to create. For others, the more comprehensive approach offered in SmartBody SmartMind makes the difference.
In either case, the 21Day Tune Up is a great way to start to build a foundation, both in terms of education and practice. I’ll link to some 21 Day Success Stories in case you want to hear from some people in the course. - Jen from Team Lyon
21daytuneup.com/success-stories/
Thanks for addressing the stress but there's also a physical reason which is taboo to address.
Fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue (and lyme) are also common among these mostly middle class people who get every stupid shot that medicine offers. In some of those shots, there are toxic @djuvants like al and mercury.
So, they also need to help their livers detox with NAC, vitamin d3+k2, vitamin C.
Yeah, and we're also surrounded by toxins all the time, so even if we avoid shots, we still need to help our bodies detox. I have the MTHFR gene mutation which also causes my body to not be able to detox effectively, so even though I avoid allopathic medicine as much as humanly possible, I still struggle with fatigue, brain fog, depression etc etc. I'm having to take antibiotics for the first time in 10+ years and they're really messing me up. Gotta majorly detox after this...they'd better at least do what they're supposed to because so far I'm barely seeing results, just side effect of exhaustion, brain fog and depression. I can't imagine what these things do to people who take them regularly. Unfortunately we're living in a very toxic world, both emotionally and chemically.
@@aquarius1986 I've been able to shift challenges around MTHFR and the other items you mention- there is hope! Hang in there!🌷🌼
That video about Titration? I don't see a link
Bailey here from Team Lyon. If you head on over to irenelyon.com, click on the Blog, search 'Titration' and you will find a few videos on the subject. Hope this helps!
@@IreneLyon Thanks Bailey!