Stop comparing the Alfa look to a Mazda ... it only shows how little you know about Alfa and cars history ... (for your info,Mazda is making copies of the Alfa design already 40 years).
Copy always costs less... here few images of old Alfa's ... you can see where Mazda took it from www.google.nl/search?tbm=isch&q=old+Alfa+Romeo+dashboard&chips=q:old+alfa+romeo+dashboard,online_chips:spider+duetto,online_chips:steering+wheel,online_chips:interior&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwitta_r8pvcAhXRbVAKHaKTB0gQ4lYILCgC&biw=1280&bih=653&dpr=1.5
Love my Stelvio! 2.0 turbo with 3 drive modes. Quiet, tight, trim and finished levels above a domestic. Base with Sport package is affordable. $44k. Will put a smile on your face. A sports car with a SUV body.
I really really, REALLY wonder which part of the Stelvio interior looks like "a Mazda CX-5". It's literally nothing like it. Also, you can get the Stelvio with a full leather interior, with the doors and dashboard covered in leather too, in higher trim levels.
The Giulia is based on the brand new Giorgio platform led by the guy who developed the 458 Italia's platform... it's a carbon driveshaft, lightest-in-its-class, independent-rear-suspention BEAST... plus with the ferrari engine in the QV it's basically the perfect sport's sedan, BMW's are no match anymore. FYI, this is coming from the mouth of a BMW seller... me... bye!
Agreed. I have a Maserati ghibli sq4 that I love. Thought about trading soon to either Lavante sq4 or stelvio qv... Went to check out the qv and... It seems a bit cheap inside.. I like how the Lavante doors feel heavy...
@@teop7887 No Shit. And the Stelvio Quad and the Levante S is a bad comparison. The Quad BARKS. The Levante S... purrs (albeit quite nicely). Not the same car.
Interesting comparison and I see why you guys did this. Not everybody cross-shops the same class of vehicles. I've cross-shopped between a Toyota iA, 86, Hyundai Elantra Sport, Dodge Charger, Honda Accord and Civic hatch.
"Spaghetti or ravioli?" Is the title "Rice or Noodles?" when you review a Honda? Or "Frogs' legs or Snails?" when you review a Renault? Your next comparison of US POS's better be "Burger or Chicken wings?" (Looks like you'd have both in every instance though huh, Lardboy?) Quit it with the inane cultural stereotypes.
I'm Italian and not triggered whatsoever. People who cry racism at the drop of a hat need to experience real racism to understand what it actually is. Since both spaghetti and ravioli are delicious, I take this as an author's way of conveying that the choice is good no matter what you choose. You SJW's are so lost.
how come only italian cars are referenced in gastronomic analogy? i find it borderline racist...you never hear japanese cars compared as sushi vs. sashimi or tempura vs. teriyaki.
I agree that a person could receive it that way. However part of the image and actual character of performance in Italian cars is that one can't help but notice that their designs come from the same outlook and tincture that Italy brings to so many areas of life. It's part of what Italian companies try to evoke when they bring their products to market. That being said I think that Lexus could market their new designs and compare them to luxury hotels in Japan, their architecture, dare I even say plumbing fixtures, and the experience of having sushi on a piece of modern Japanese china with a minimalist shape. That would be a distinctively different experience.
Kristopher Klassen no shithead, its just super hacky...not very original...i like these guys, i know they can do better...you on the other hand sound like human garbage
Alfa has usb ports in the back, just this version doesn't have it, and quadrifoglio will have leather on the dashboard or as an option you could have it on standart
I love Alfa still makes me feel I am driving an Italian machine. This Maserati it’s makes me like I was driving a Chrysler Pacifica love Italians cars!!!!
So comparing a levante to a fairly basic Stelvio? The QV has the v6 and sounds better. Plus there is a leather dash on the QV, Lusso, and any ti with that option checked.
I liked the comparison between Alfa and Maserati...but next time TFL Car does a Euro video, try not using a truck guy as one of the commentators. The incongruity is hilarious.
Apart from the fact that here more of the small Alfa 2 liters is compared with the fully equipped Maserati instead of using the adjacent Q4, the video is very meaningful as far as the leverage of the Maserati is concerned to justify its high price ;)
The biggest thing I like about these cars is that they are mid engine not like nose heavy audis... When you see a long hood you know that the engine sits correctly... Behind the front axle.
I tried to sway the towards getting a Stelvio, but couldn't sell her on the body style. I thought the styling of the Stelvio was stunning...until I started seeing so many almost identical Mazdas. Bummer.
About time i found one where they have a car that’s in the same league as the Alfa Romeo! Every one i see is a Benz being matches up with an Alfa Romeo which is dumb!
I’m so confused about this review. You mentioned it was the Stelvio Q but you really only showed specs for the base Stelvio. You should really only be comparing the Stelvio Q with the Lavante.
“Spaghetti or Ravioli”...... What a stupid title !!.... Is this a food channel or what ? If you compare Mercedes vs BMW, do you write “Sauerkraut” or “Bratwurst” or what ? Or 2 Americans cars ....”Hotdog or Hamburger” ? That’s only ridiculous ! Shame on you !
Each should encourage long-term ownership by offering a 6-8 year, 70-90k mi warranty to instill 'confidence' in the the product's robustness as it ages. Otherwise, these will be forgotten used car lot queens rotting away in the sun. They look great, but too many unknowns with limited dealer network support.
You didnt really compare farely....for the price point of the levante you can add the leather package to the alf and make it much nicer. Also why didnt you compare the performance. Of qv with the sq! I think the cheaper alfa qv will still win
What cars are you actually comparing? You need to choose between the Levante S and the Stelvio Quad and not mix them up. Your conclusion isn't clear. All that said, I have a Levante S and it is a fantastic car. I wanted the Stelvio Quad but the Levante made better sense. The Stelvio Quad is quite the beast and the Levante S is more drivable in normal life. If I win the lotto, I'm getting the quad too. ;)
These are not apple to apple comparison just because both are Italian. Mind as well throw in Fiat too. These are two different crossovers built for two different market segment. Would have been better to compare Stelvio to its real competitors like BMW x3, Audi Q5 and so on.
I own a Stelvio. I drove both. No comparison. The Alfa costs WAY less and performs WAY better. You would be a fool to buy the Maserati. Or, you would have to be desperate to own a Maserati. But on value and performance, the Alfa crushes the Maserati. And the Stelvio Quadrifoglio is the fastest SUV in the world. And even that model competes on price with the Maserati....
34K is a helluva premium to pay for a slightly more prestigious badge. Both are ridiculous cars, but if you have money to burn, I can kinda see the appeal of them, but even then there's no way the Maserati wins unless you literally give zero shits about $34,000, even on an abstract level where the money itself means nothing to your lifestyle. A loaded Grand Cherokee is better in every rational way, except prestige.
Hmmm...Bad comparison. Ypu compare a 4 cylinder with a V6 when Alfa has an V6. Wouldn't it be better to compare only compare the QV against the Maserati
Makes me a little sad that three of my favourite marques, Alfa, Jaguar and Maserati, now make nonsense wagons. The vehicle of choice for the school bully or those bullied at school.
Have them both .cant compare the stelvio to the levante..as good as the alpha is just doesnt have the solid feel .weight and ride quality.of the maser.also more head room
I don't like SUVs, it's better to compare Maserati Ghibli and Alfa-Romeo Giulia (which share many components, e.g. V6 Ferrari engine, with different size)
The Levante doesn't bring anything to the table that it's competitors don't. FCA is trying to fit the Levante into a market that is, has been, and will continue to be dominated by the Germans.
Here it is in a sentence. Alfa Romeo make better looking cars than Maserati and sell them a lot cheaper. Maserati has that sexy name but is in truth down in the trenches pitching its SUVs and Saloons into the fray against the Big German "business" marques and the price points are too high. Maserati is neither one thing or the other. It is too expensive to compete with BMW and Audi not to mention Alfa
I do not like the fake exhaust tips on the Maserati. I like the fake exhaust tips on the Alfa slightly more.
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I think that this comparison. is not fair.. you show the Stelvio Quad.. but compare to levante on every section to the 2.0L... even the exhaust test... why not the Quad.. normal and then the race mode. Sorry TFL.. not your best video...
This video is testimony why I go to Redline Review. This was a half @$$ comparsion and did not even choose the appropriate trim levels for the comparison.
I saw the Stelvio in person last year and i considered it to be the best looking SUV. Last month i saw Levante and i have to tell you that i had to change my mind.. Levante in black color is just perfect and it's nicer than Stelvio. Really hard to say that because i'm as much alfisti as a person can be.
Somebody isn't being honest! That exhaust from the Alfa was the 2.0 not the QV's V6 and you know it. The Alfa does have rear USB also you shot from an angle where you couldn't see them. I have to say I stopped watching your channel for a reason....this affirms that decision. The young one is the worst.
Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio vs Maserati Levate Trofeo, this is the comparison that interests me.
yea I would just buy a jeep track hawk that would murder both those cars and I could buy a track hawk and a prius for less than the Mas Trofeo
Devin Fontana the Quadrifoglio is just as quick and fast as the Trackhawk. Look at the magazine tests. Shocking, I know.
That would be a $85k vs $155k
D Font Trackhawk vs Stelvio are the same price new.
@@TheDgfontanaall the same company anyway
Stop comparing the Alfa look to a Mazda ...
it only shows how little you know about Alfa and cars history ...
(for your info,Mazda is making copies of the Alfa design already 40 years).
Have you been in a Mazda lately? It's like the two brands are sharing notes in class; except Mazda is charging less.
Copy always costs less... here few images of old Alfa's ... you can see where Mazda took it from www.google.nl/search?tbm=isch&q=old+Alfa+Romeo+dashboard&chips=q:old+alfa+romeo+dashboard,online_chips:spider+duetto,online_chips:steering+wheel,online_chips:interior&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwitta_r8pvcAhXRbVAKHaKTB0gQ4lYILCgC&biw=1280&bih=653&dpr=1.5
I own a new gen CX-5 and an Alfa Giulia (basically same interior as the Stelvio) and the two interiors are very different.
Thank you. Someone else sees it. These guys have no idea about classics.
Utter Bullshit! Ask the guy who owns one. Alfa Rocks!
I like the looks of the Alfa more than the Maserati.
Jordan Catcher and better fuel economy i'd take the Alfa in Red though
Love my Stelvio! 2.0 turbo with 3 drive modes. Quiet, tight, trim and finished levels above a domestic. Base with Sport package is affordable. $44k. Will put a smile on your face. A sports car with a SUV body.
shift intohigh do you have any issues/problems with the car?
I really really, REALLY wonder which part of the Stelvio interior looks like "a Mazda CX-5". It's literally nothing like it. Also, you can get the Stelvio with a full leather interior, with the doors and dashboard covered in leather too, in higher trim levels.
The Giulia is based on the brand new Giorgio platform led by the guy who developed the 458 Italia's platform... it's a carbon driveshaft, lightest-in-its-class, independent-rear-suspention BEAST... plus with the ferrari engine in the QV it's basically the perfect sport's sedan, BMW's are no match anymore. FYI, this is coming from the mouth of a BMW seller... me... bye!
Agreed. I have a Maserati ghibli sq4 that I love. Thought about trading soon to either Lavante sq4 or stelvio qv... Went to check out the qv and... It seems a bit cheap inside.. I like how the Lavante doors feel heavy...
italian cars 😍🇮🇹
Spaghetti or ravioli😥How sad these stereotypes
Agreed.
@@teop7887 No Shit. And the Stelvio Quad and the Levante S is a bad comparison. The Quad BARKS. The Levante S... purrs (albeit quite nicely). Not the same car.
Videos are getting better, gentleman. Music is good, not annoying or overbearing. Love the ‘categories’. And the length is just about right.
Ditto,.Kristopher.
I like the Alfa more.
The Maserati is powerful, but the Alfa is the most beautiful. I prefer the Alpha. Also you should compare the Maserati with the Alfa's V6 version.
Idk what’s been happening behind screens but the videos and content keeps getting better with each new video, keep it up!!
Alfa Romeo is best bang for your buck.
Interesting comparison and I see why you guys did this. Not everybody cross-shops the same class of vehicles. I've cross-shopped between a Toyota iA, 86, Hyundai Elantra Sport, Dodge Charger, Honda Accord and Civic hatch.
"Spaghetti or ravioli?" Is the title "Rice or Noodles?" when you review a Honda? Or "Frogs' legs or Snails?" when you review a Renault? Your next comparison of US POS's better be "Burger or Chicken wings?" (Looks like you'd have both in every instance though huh, Lardboy?) Quit it with the inane cultural stereotypes.
Scott Pugh a hand gun or an assault rifle rather. And don’t forget to throw the word “freedom” in it they seem to use it a lot
I'm Italian and not triggered whatsoever. People who cry racism at the drop of a hat need to experience real racism to understand what it actually is. Since both spaghetti and ravioli are delicious, I take this as an author's way of conveying that the choice is good no matter what you choose. You SJW's are so lost.
You get good discounts in both cars if you go in a dealer. Really good cars, especially the Stelvio I think is one of the best in his class.
The exhaust note didn't compare the quadrifglio, right? I thought the quad had four tail pipes.
Exactly strange review to me , your showing base but got higher trim in your video
nice review..two of my best cars
Please take a close look in the rear aspect of the center console of the Stelvio....I believe there are two USB ports in the back...
Why showing us the quadrifoglio verde and then let us hear the 2.0 four cylinder ?
If had to choose,..I'd go for the Alpha Romeo Stelvio. I'd love to have it in a manual box edition though.
you mean Alfa.
Ooooo I made a BIG MISTAKE,..I misspelled " ALFA",.....will I ever be forgiven !!!
Two of the best looking SUV's available
Lol the Levante looks like a Mazda CX-5 or any of Infiniti's SUVs.
how come only italian cars are referenced in gastronomic analogy? i find it borderline racist...you never hear japanese cars compared as sushi vs. sashimi or tempura vs. teriyaki.
Yum, stop making us hungry please. So much great food from so many great countries.
Ummmm rice anyone?
Sorry, Snowflake, did that hurt your fewwings?
if you call my truck a rice burner i will jump up and down and scream
I agree that a person could receive it that way. However part of the image and actual character of performance in Italian cars is that one can't help but notice that their designs come from the same outlook and tincture that Italy brings to so many areas of life. It's part of what Italian companies try to evoke when they bring their products to market.
That being said I think that Lexus could market their new designs and compare them to luxury hotels in Japan, their architecture, dare I even say plumbing fixtures, and the experience of having sushi on a piece of modern Japanese china with a minimalist shape. That would be a distinctively different experience.
Kristopher Klassen no shithead, its just super hacky...not very original...i like these guys, i know they can do better...you on the other hand sound like human garbage
Stop calling my name 😂😂
Ratty?
OK A.
Lavonte A OMG I saw the same comment in another video. It was u😂😂😂
Aditya krishna Lol ik 😂
Why is that you have the Stelvio Q, but in the sound comparison you shoot a video of a base Stelvio?
Good comparison. I prefer the Maserati.
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Ed Burke screw you the alfa is better
Alfa has usb ports in the back, just this version doesn't have it, and quadrifoglio will have leather on the dashboard or as an option you could have it on standart
What trim level is the stelvio? TI SPORT?
I love Alfa still makes me feel I am driving an Italian machine. This Maserati it’s makes me like I was driving a Chrysler Pacifica love Italians cars!!!!
I have both an Alfa and a Pacifica!
U have no clue then
So comparing a levante to a fairly basic Stelvio? The QV has the v6 and sounds better. Plus there is a leather dash on the QV, Lusso, and any ti with that option checked.
I remember you take on the Alfa Romeo 4C and it too was a nice review.
Wouldn't the QV be a better comparison especially for the exhaust? The price is similar.
I love this TFL Comparison very informative!!!
I might be looking into leasing that Maserati...
Take the V8 though, it's the added value of the best soundtrack of the industry
Even the sq4 has good power though. The GTS is nice but just too expensive.
Rob L way too expensive I agree
The ravs were made with the 280hp variant. Whyy, you said it was the QV 505hp you're testing
Good review but you may want to reconsider the title. Sour kraut v Schnitzel for the Audi Q5 v BMW X5 perhaps.
I liked the comparison between Alfa and Maserati...but next time TFL Car does a Euro video, try not using a truck guy as one of the commentators. The incongruity is hilarious.
Dusty Rusty 😁
Maserati for me as well the levante looks amazing and premier
Apart from the fact that here more of the small Alfa 2 liters is compared with the fully equipped Maserati instead of using the adjacent Q4, the video is very meaningful as far as the leverage of the Maserati is concerned to justify its high price ;)
I prefer Maserati but the Stelvio is cheaper and it could be bought by lots of people.
Exsaust sound of Stelvio was not the quadrifoglio version during the test..
The biggest thing I like about these cars is that they are mid engine not like nose heavy audis... When you see a long hood you know that the engine sits correctly... Behind the front axle.
ill take both!
Great you compared the sound notes with closed flaps for the Alfa. No research done before?
There's no rear USB in the Stelvio? But I have one in my Giulia.
There is, actually two usb sockets in the rear, it’s below the air vents in the central console... probably same place as yours
Next make video about Fettuccine(Ferrari) or Linguine(Lamborghini)..
Ma cosa sono le fettuccin e i linguine? 🤔
I tried to sway the towards getting a Stelvio, but couldn't sell her on the body style. I thought the styling of the Stelvio was stunning...until I started seeing so many almost identical Mazdas. Bummer.
Alfa Romeo in a heartbeat 💓, always with all comparisons!!!!!!
Totally agree. The Maser simply isn't worth twice the price. It's far more luxurious and elegant but not worth double.
Base models I will take the Levante but top trim Stelvio for sure
eichler721 but there’s a massive difference in the price .. just add about 10k to the price of that base levante and u can get a stelvio QV
2:17' no sport mode for the Alfa?
(show the RACE mode of the QV!)
About time i found one where they have a car that’s in the same league as the Alfa Romeo! Every one i see is a Benz being matches up with an Alfa Romeo which is dumb!
I’m so confused about this review. You mentioned it was the Stelvio Q but you really only showed specs for the base Stelvio. You should really only be comparing the Stelvio Q with the Lavante.
Waiting for a bigger Alfa...
“Spaghetti or Ravioli”...... What a stupid title !!.... Is this a food channel or what ?
If you compare Mercedes vs BMW, do you write “Sauerkraut” or “Bratwurst” or what ? Or 2 Americans cars ....”Hotdog or Hamburger” ? That’s only ridiculous ! Shame on you !
Yum, please stop making us hungry.
That is not the AR quadrifoglio interior reviewed! The steering wheel has a RED push button start! And it has carbon fiber and alcantera!
Nice video title.
Each should encourage long-term ownership by offering a 6-8 year, 70-90k mi warranty to instill 'confidence' in the the product's robustness as it ages. Otherwise, these will be forgotten used car lot queens rotting away in the sun. They look great, but too many unknowns with limited dealer network support.
So do we call the Mito espresso and Ferrari pizza ?
I really like the styling of the Maserati, but at the sticker price and the residuals I wouldn't bother
Alfa Romeo needs to make the interior badges (steering wheel) in color
Both cars use the Ferrari engine blocks F154 AM 3,797cc & F154 V6 2,891cc
You didnt really compare farely....for the price point of the levante you can add the leather package to the alf and make it much nicer.
Also why didnt you compare the performance. Of qv with the sq! I think the cheaper alfa qv will still win
What cars are you actually comparing? You need to choose between the Levante S and the Stelvio Quad and not mix them up. Your conclusion isn't clear. All that said, I have a Levante S and it is a fantastic car. I wanted the Stelvio Quad but the Levante made better sense. The Stelvio Quad is quite the beast and the Levante S is more drivable in normal life. If I win the lotto, I'm getting the quad too. ;)
These are not apple to apple comparison just because both are Italian. Mind as well throw in Fiat too. These are two different crossovers built for two different market segment. Would have been better to compare Stelvio to its real competitors like BMW x3, Audi Q5 and so on.
Così come siamo i più bravi con il cibo, siamo i più bravi con le automobili!
I own a Stelvio. I drove both. No comparison. The Alfa costs WAY less and performs WAY better. You would be a fool to buy the Maserati. Or, you would have to be desperate to own a Maserati. But on value and performance, the Alfa crushes the Maserati. And the Stelvio Quadrifoglio is the fastest SUV in the world. And even that model competes on price with the Maserati....
Amazing
I usually like Nathan, but it is in episodes like this one where he shows that he's not always the sharpest tool in the shed...
34K is a helluva premium to pay for a slightly more prestigious badge. Both are ridiculous cars, but if you have money to burn, I can kinda see the appeal of them, but even then there's no way the Maserati wins unless you literally give zero shits about $34,000, even on an abstract level where the money itself means nothing to your lifestyle. A loaded Grand Cherokee is better in every rational way, except prestige.
Not even a debate, stelvio feels cheap and light. Is really funny people's perception without even test driving the cars.
The Best in most beautiful SUV in the world
We need a superspeedersrob joke about the pasta 😂😂😂😂
Hmmm...Bad comparison. Ypu compare a 4 cylinder with a V6 when Alfa has an V6. Wouldn't it be better to compare only compare the QV against the Maserati
Makes me a little sad that three of my favourite marques, Alfa, Jaguar and Maserati, now make nonsense wagons. The vehicle of choice for the school bully or those bullied at school.
Have them both .cant compare the stelvio to the levante..as good as the alpha is just doesnt have the solid feel .weight and ride quality.of the maser.also more head room
I love everything about the Alfa Romeo EXCEPT the rear which looks like a cheap $20k Kia or Mazda SUV.
The Stelio wasn’t a q.v. for the exhaust
Maserati is for pretentious folks, Alfa is for true enthusiasts
I don't like SUVs,
it's better to compare Maserati Ghibli and Alfa-Romeo Giulia
(which share many components, e.g. V6 Ferrari engine, with different size)
Ghibli and Giulia doesnt share engine., Alfa has Ferrari derived engine and Maserati has Chrysler pentastar derived engine
The Levante doesn't bring anything to the table that it's competitors don't. FCA is trying to fit the Levante into a market that is, has been, and will continue to be dominated by the Germans.
It brings two things 1) and massively inflated price tag. 2) insane depreciation.
So true.
I like the Maserati a little more but the Alfa is also good to
Here it is in a sentence. Alfa Romeo make better looking cars than Maserati and sell them a lot cheaper. Maserati has that sexy name but is in truth down in the trenches pitching its SUVs and Saloons into the fray against the Big German "business" marques and the price points are too high. Maserati is neither one thing or the other. It is too expensive to compete with BMW and Audi not to mention Alfa
Maserati should design a new TC, that places just below the Grand Turismo coupe. I love the Stelvio, just wish I could afford it.
I do not like the fake exhaust tips on the Maserati. I like the fake exhaust tips on the Alfa slightly more.
I think that this comparison. is not fair.. you show the Stelvio Quad.. but compare to levante on every section to the 2.0L... even the exhaust test... why not the Quad.. normal and then the race mode.
Sorry TFL.. not your best video...
Grand Cherokee Limited and pocket the change !
This video is testimony why I go to Redline Review. This was a half @$$ comparsion and did not even choose the appropriate trim levels for the comparison.
Call me an idiot but I sold my Giulia QV for a Levante S xD the sound of that F160 is just nicer over the F154
Maserati 👍
Ha-ha-ha because they are Italian, they must be connected with our food... very very funny. By the way I prefer the Alfa and the video is well made.
Spaghetti or Ravioli...you seem to have eaten a lot of them...
Can only choose Alfa....For Life....FORZA ALFA BABY !!!!
My mom has the Levante! Not sure it’s engine though but it was 140k I’m fairly sure. It’s nice but I’m not a fan of its screen it’s ugly as heck.
I saw the Stelvio in person last year and i considered it to be the best looking SUV. Last month i saw Levante and i have to tell you that i had to change my mind.. Levante in black color is just perfect and it's nicer than Stelvio. Really hard to say that because i'm as much alfisti as a person can be.
I decided...:...I want both Maserati and Alfa Romeu....va bene...
Somebody isn't being honest! That exhaust from the Alfa was the 2.0 not the QV's V6 and you know it. The Alfa does have rear USB also you shot from an angle where you couldn't see them. I have to say I stopped watching your channel for a reason....this affirms that decision. The young one is the worst.
My has a alfa and it has a charging usb in back seat
what the fu@k are u talking about, the stelvio is faster, it has 2 usb ports near the backseats, and it looks nicer
Maserati Levent is faster it has Ferrari engine blocks and is far more luxurious
The Lavante has a run of defective engines. Some of them don't even last 500 miles.