I had a 2017 Giulia Ti for three years. It broke down in the first two weeks. They put in a new battery, and downloaded an update. Never had another problem with it.
I've had a Giulia QV for 2 years, the interior and tech is absolutely dog water for the price. But the rest of the car is just so satisfying. I sold it to try out the last V8 C class and an Audi RS5. Ended up just buying my old QV back after those both fell short for me. Also zero issues with it so far, hopefully it stays that way!
@@BMWROYAL Worse, huh? In what way is the Giulia worse than the competition? Certainly not exterior styling or vehicle dynamics. And you're not paying more.
@@Future-Classic-Cars Yes, I do actually very much like the series. Was it a generic comment that boosted their algorithm and my online self-esteem because I posted super early and got a whole bunch of likes...? Also yes
@@spencerbair1137 Appreciate your honesty sorry I was in a sh!t mood when I posted that, I'm sure you seem a nice chap! Nothing personal shouldn't have vented at you was chatting shizzz
My mom has had her Giulia for a few years now from new and has had no issues. My uncle has a Stelvio and his has been solid too. The whole Italian reliability stereotype is kind of getting old now. It just scares people away from owning cars that are an absolute joy
@@mrsoisauce9017Ferraris have engines that simply require a lot of maintenance because they are too powerful for some sensitive parts, such as belts. The Fiat ones depends, those powered by diesel and methane are the last thing to break in Fiats, the problems concern more the mechanic and electronic parts. The Maseratis I agree with you, in terms of reliability they are absolutely shit.
To be honest the whole "Italian reliability" stereotypes only scare those people who aren't willing to sit down even for 10 minutes to do their own research (which I guess is a majority of people sadly) so I'd say serves them right. If you believe rumors and scary tales then you don't deserve to own this car. My dad was an absolute Alfa hater until I bought my Giulia and drove up to their house and now 3 years later he's looking to buy a Stelvio lol.
Good to know the regular Giulia still carries the spirit of the Quadrifoglio. As long as the joy of driving is there, it seems like a sweet deal for the lesser price.
If you only invested a little of the savings into a few performance mods to add some pep to the regular model, you'd come out miles in front. Maybe a new exhaust and a custom tune and you're done.
Current owner of a Giulia Quadrifoglio since 2020. Prior to i had a Giulia Ti and my wife a stelvio. Phenomenal cars we fell in love. Also happy to report we never had issues with any of them. the "battery" comment they made is true but never effected us. Honeslty more reliable than any german car ive owned previously
True that. German cars have reliability reputations far better than they deserve. Even when I owned Peugeots in the 1980-1990s the only parts which ever failed were made in Germany.
That's awesome to hear... I've played with the idea of a Giulia Quadrifoglio but haven't had the courage to take the plunge. If I go for one, and it goes bad... I'm blaming you, Sir!
I'm a Giulia 2017 owner. Got a tune for it for 500 bucks that was just a download that brought it up to 324 hp/500nm also Got the Racemode for 300 bucks (turns traction off) . RWD with lsd was an option and i got it. Also a 600 bucks exhaust will do wonders to the sound. Got 150.000 kms on it and only ever had to do the regular brakepads and tyres. it was a GREAT decision and i love the everlasting fuck out of it.
2018 2.0L here. 123k miles and counting. Replaced the battery in year one and it's been a reliable daily. Smiles per mile: absolutely cannot be beat for the price. 100% would buy again.
@@71ala AMG has came up with the most powerful production 4-cyl engines for the past decade (M133 and M139/L) and no other manufacturer has caught up yet. The new C63 is faster than the previous V8 powered C63S. The only people that are mad are those who rely on big engines to compensate for what they lack.
@@autofficinaportafortunayou're not wrong but if all people cared about was stats and 0-60 you might as well get an ev. i'm willing to bet most amg customers would give up some performance to have the v8 back (me with the new toyota trucks...)
Owner of a Giulia Q4 here. Have had no issues and with regular maintenance (which can be pricey it not outrageous) it runs and drives like a dream. Take care of your investments ppl and they will take care Of u
Honestly, sounds like an equivalent to the M340i - not full-on performance, but fast and fun enough for its price. Never owned an Alfa, but I'm intrigued by Giulia
@@TymaDem it’s probably the closest comparison you can make to it. Now I say it’s the Competitzoné trim level and the Ti is the new base. I would recommend testing a Ti, M350i, S4, and C43 if you looking in to getting an entry sports sedan. Board opinion the Alfa is the best of 4
As a Giulia Quadrifoglio owner, I can confirm that all issues (which have been few and far between) have been related to the battery. I replaced the battery and have not had a single issue. The reliability reputation is unearned for this gen Giulia and it’s silly that so many people, who don’t own nor have driver the car, quickly write off the reliability based on previous Alfa cars that have nothing to do with it
Original owner of a 2018 Giulia QV. 60K miles on the clock. ZERO issues with the car. My out of pocket expenses include tires, brakes, and the 10K maintenance intervals. To note, the front pads and rotors were replaced at 59K miles. The original rear pads and rotors are still on the car and do not require replacement. I literally drive this car in Dynamic and Race everyday. When I purchased the car 6 years ago I was the butt of all jokes. I am happy I made the jump and have 6 years of pure driving bliss as my reward. Would do it again in a heartbeat.
4 years and 50,000kms driving a 2018 Quad with carbon seats and brakes. Came with 3 years of free servicing and 5 year warranty, but in that time I had not a single issue, warning light or problem. Best and most reliable car I’ve ever owned ❤
Yeah - you can upgrade to an AGM one - everyone uses one from costco. Mine still seems to have a very small drain. I put it on a trickle charger overnight every month or two and have had no issues since i started doing that. I also have an aftermarket wireless android auto/carplay module which might be causing the drain.
@@bandagraphCheck the seat buttons and a radio button at the dealer. My 2021 G QV had a parasitic draw on a faulty seat control module. Replaced under warranty, no issues ever since.
Bought a 1owner and fully serviced 2017 QV 3 months ago with 109k mi, carbon ceramics, carbon buckets and absolutely love it. Had it serviced recently and given a good bill of health from the Alfa dealer!!! All for 23k US!!!
A wise man also said “you’re not a true petrolhead until you own an Alfa Romeo” and I can tell you every second of driving mine has been pure enjoyment!
Some say he is the sexiest man of the kingdom, some say he can smell if someone's a vegitarian from several miles away, all we know is that the wise man is called JEREMY CLARKSON
MY19 (non-opf) Quadrifoglio 1st owner with 40k km who never had any issues with the car. More reliable than many of the BMW 3 & 5 series I had . Dynamically the best sport sedan in the market, still after over 8 years of age.
@@hassanger8128 Tell us you know absolutely nothing about sport cars dynamics without telling us that you know absolutely nothing about sport cars dynamics. 🤡
@@ragnarlothbrok2782 Yes, still!!! And I happily sit down in the driver seat of my Quadrifoglio, thinking of the vast majority of car journalist who all agree on which sport sedan is dynamically still the best and stil the most engaging and fun one after 8 yrs on the market. No contest. I recommend driving one because you clearly never have you clown 🤭
Picked up a ‘24 QV Carbonio trim (red leather, gold calipers, on Rosso GTA) on June 1. What an incredible car. I am definitely keeping it forever, there won’t be another ICE sedan that drives like this ever again.
I currently own a 1988 Milano Gold Automatic! 200,638 miles currently, runs and drives! Just spent $3500 on all around new brakes. This is my 15th Alfa! Love Throttle House! Great video as always!
My mom still has her 2018 Giulia Veloce (Ti for you guys) that she got new. Only real breakdown was the can bus electronics going a bit haywire this year after 6 years of trouble free driving. And it was just a single connector shaken a bit loose on the amplifier, just needed to be plugged back in and it didn't stop the car from firing up and driving just fine. The way the thing dances in the corners is just fucking beautiful, going on a trip to the other side of europe and getting to push it on twisty italian roads was somewhat of a religious experience, you could tell that's what it was made for. The quickest steering this side of a Ferrari just makes pointing it into a corner so fun. The Q4 AWD is great. The gearbox is amazing and has that same satisfying kick in the back on upshift in dynamic mode as in the QV. The 4 cylinder may not be the best engine, but it's got a bit of character, the quirky very-turbo way it makes power, the fact it's slightly rough on idle, not too much to be annoying, but just enough to let you know there's something alive under the hood waiting to be used, compared to all the perfectly smooth and silent german vacuum cleaner 4 cylinders out there. I'm in love with the car and just can't seem to drive it calmly every time I get behind the wheel. It just gives you so much confidence to push on right from the jump, it's incredible. The lack of ability to turn TC off never bothered me that much, dynamic mode gives you grip in the dry and let's you have just the right amount of fun when it's particularly rainy (or even more when it's snowy). And while it's not the most tech focused, it still has all the stuff you want and need in a good daily. Can't say enough good things about it.
QV 2021 owner here. Every person who has driven my car absolutely loves it. Whether they are an enthusiast driving in race mode or an aunty driving in normal mode.
My 2018 Veloce Q4 came with 7 years warranty and I´ve driven it across Europe, several times without a glitch. I´ve had to fix a rattle in the door, change the battery and the fuel filler lid. As most others had to. All on warranty. These cars are reliable.
I’m just curious why do you think the used prices for these are so low then? There must be some horror stories out there to warrant the heavy decline in price right? I mean there is literally a 2017 with 55k miles and clean title really close to me for only 15k. Interior is a little dated and lower end than the competitors sure but that’s really cheap
@@Father-klovkoskithe stereotype of unreliability is hurting it more than it should, add in also the fact that cars isnt popular and dealership net isnt as big as for german makers
I'm 21 and I bought a 2017 Alfa Giulia Ti Q4 at 20 years old. It has 38k on the clock and it is the best car I have ever driven. I appraise cars for a living, so I have been behind the wheel of many different cars, Honda S2Ks, M3s, Merc AMGS, and Corvettes. Out of all of the vehicles I have driven, my Alfa Romeo drives better than them all. I have yet to drive a car with as much steering feel, chassis balance and sheer beauty to drive. I had the opportunity to drive the Quad a year ago from a colleague but I passed it down to preserve my love for mine. Maybe I'm the outlier but I have had no issues with my car. Everything has worked, maintenance has been just like any other car, and I run my car hard. Yes it's a roll of the dice to buy one, but I do not regret purchasing it at all
@@eight2810 I work at a very big car dealership in the DC area. We have a dedicated appraisal team that does appraisals for trading and selling. We try to buy about 100 cars a month
Bought a 2023 Giulia QV last year. I've owned a Mustang, and a Corvette and this car is the best I've ever owned or driven. I like the classic retro feel of the interior over the screen based interior on the M3.
Folks I’ve owned a 2018 Giulia Quadrifoglio for five years and have had no issues. It’s a riot to pilot and I consider reliability bulletproof. Car gets all recommended factory service plus two oil changes annually regardless of miles driven. Understanding how this engine was built and works is key to anticipating potential issues and addressing them proactively. It’s been more reliable than our late model year Toyotas.
the mere fact that you have to do all that effort just to keep it running says everything about the state of European cars. you as the customer should not be doing the manufacturer's job
My dad had an Alfa Spyder 2000 square back similar to seen in the intro. He drove that thing to work and me to school in it. Pure, and I mean pure bliss when it worked. I miss you pops 💖
I realized something about every Guila/Stelvio QF owner that I know of. They all have lots of experience with all the competition, and could afford any one of them. The fact that they still chose the fast Alfas really speaks to the greatness of these cars.
Exactly. I’ve done BMWs and Audis. Never again. Boring household appliances, and a dime a dozen - you see them everywhere as the sheep like to follow one another. I’m a Alfa owner now. Perhaps I’ll consider a Maserati in the future but it seems a bit ostentatious to me. Price is not an issue for me. I also have a new MX-5. I love it.
I have owned 2 Alfa’s, multiple Fiats, 2 Lancia’s and rarely had any issues with any of them. I maintain all my cars regularly and head off problems before they crop up. Love Italian cars!!
my dad has a 2022 Veloce. Might be his favorite car hes ever owned. No issues and it handles like an absolute dream. Breath of fresh air when it feels like few manufacturers care about driving dynamics anymore
To anyone interested, AR really got their act together from 2019 and onwards. I’ve had 3 since, over 120,000 miles between them and had never had an issue outside of maintenance.
I agree, great to hear your good experience. However, still some lingering TSB's including electrical issues, oil & coolant leaks on the 19 all of which are very expensive to fix out of warranty. My advice is stick with a 2021+ that it still under factory warranty then consider adding the 7yr moparmaxcare warranty. Its around $2,000 which is pretty fair considering the cost to repair these Alfa's. Look at the quotes to replace the oil pump!
@@mmf9765 I do my own and pay $75 for the required SP-spec Mopar Oil&Filter. I assume dealerships charge similar plus 0.5 to1hr of labor. Rates vary by region/dealership so best to just call your local shop and get a quote.
On my second 2.0 Ti Sport Q4 (essentially the same spec as the current Veloce) First was a lease to test the waters. It's incredibly fun and has been trouble free. Thought about a Quad but realized it was overkill for me and used the extra cash to fund my incurable motorcycle addiction. For those who lament a subpar-but-functional backup camera and a clunky-but-okay infotainment system, you get an excellent double-wishbone/multi-link indy suspension, great ride quality, and increased everyday giggles.
Picked up a used 18 Q4 sport, had it for 2 years now. Had some electrical glitches, however replacing of the Battery with an Interstate corrected them. Car has been reliable, and fun. The only other change was replacing the stock 235/45 Bridgestones to 245/40 Michelin AS pilots Zero pressure. The car handles even better after the tire change. Keep up the fantastic work guys,
I had a Giulia Veloce for 4 years, it was great. I had it mapped to 340BHP and it was awesome fun. I traded it in and got a Stelvio QV, never looked back. That Ferarri engine is a beast!
@@elvistwatty something with the one that came from the factory and its quality, its weird i get it, but it has fixed many issues on the Giulia forum almost so much so that the very first response you get when you have an issue is battery change.
This was the best recommended to watch truly, this is the only car channel I can watch simply because to me it feels so much above the competition (my subjective opinion). A review for a car I was thinking about buying truly appreciated
Former 2017 Giulia TI Sport owner here. I miss that car sometimes. I am currently in a BMW 2 series and i love it for the performance. Thr Giulia has much better handling, but my BMW would smoke it with ease. However, i will be going back to Alfa Romeo at the end of this year to a Quadrifoglio! I love the AR platform
The new C63 AMG is worse. Heavily boosted 4 cylinder engine and a PHEV drivetrain that makes the car unnecessarily heavy. So I can see why someone would pick this over the new C63. Not the old one though, many still love the sound of a good and powerful V8.
I have a 2020 Ti Sport Q4 Carbon with over 81k miles and it’s been mostly reliable save for the battery issues I can attest to. It’s a dream to drive and brings a smile to my face every time I’m in it.
For anyone leaving comments regarding reliability, Iv been dailying a 2017 QV for 7 years, it’s got 137k km on it, only issues Iv had is driver side handbrake caliper has a fault, a cable snapped in the loom on the bulkhead but I actually put this down to having the screen replaced (not so well the way everything went back together) was an easy fix, I have suffered with the water ingress issue to do with the hvac settings, other than that, these things are bullet proof, I drive it hard and have done since run in. Owned a fair few M cars, 3’s and 4’s that had more issues than the Alfa. The Giulia is 💯 the best car iv ever owned and will never sell it! 😁❤
The Giulia Ti Sport I owned for five years and 50k miles was way more reliable and way sweeter to drive than all our German cars. Wish I never sold it. Just got a new M3P and it's great, but it ain't a Giulia.
i got a new quad in september 2022 and it has been bomb proof apart from when the e brake decided to stop working in heavy traffic when i pulled on the button and put it in neutral , turned it off waited a minute and it was fine . alfa dealer couldn't find anything wrong. the AC is also kind of shit in the summer but i love it i cant see myself driving anything else for a long time
There are only two flaws that I find with the giulia (any model). And that is the steering angle is too wide and the AC is so weak. Change those and the car will be perfect. I still wouldn't trade mine in for anything except for a quad
@@alex1695lopez have someone who knows what they’re doing check it out. I also thought mine was weirdly weak until I got it leak tested and found a super tiny refrigerant leak which wasn’t enough to stop the ac from working, but enough to nerf it substantially.
Picked up a new quad over a month ago, so can’t say much about reliability yet, but boy it’s a blast to drive! 🌶️🌶️🌶️ Thanks for the excellent review guys! 🍀
As a owner of a heavily modified 2.0 with 430hp, im so Happy that this video shows the strenght of the 2.0. its an Amazing handling car and with the right Upgrades, youve got a weapon!
I owned a 2019 for 3 years. The oil pump went out at 35k miles and the evap system was constantly throwing codes....... I plan on buying another one next year. They're so much fun to drive and look incredible.
Mines in the garage on jacks right now. All the rubber bushings are done. Oil pan and trans pan are both leaking, but she was driving before I parked it. Not sure whether to rebuild the motor or swap it, but anything other than the twin cam seems blasphemous.
I have a 2017 TI Q2 with the adaptive dampers and 80K miles. Bought it for $16.5k USD (72k miles) and immediately put a new battery in. Totally reliable for last 8k miles. Recommend the Q2 if you don't need AWD. Way better turning radius than Q4 and limited slip over non-q2 I paid another 2.2k for the mopar maxcare warranty 3yr / 30k miles. I had one small oil leak repair done under warranty - small enough that no oil is on the ground but was diagnosed during an oil change.
Thank you for the great review. I had a model year 2022 Giulia Veloce which I loved but got the option to buy a model year 2022 Quadrifoglio for a great price, and am very pleased I took the plunge. The Quadrifoglio is an amazing car, and is a fantastic all rounder. If you can afford a Quad and are hesitating about a purchase, just go ahead and buy it. You won't be disappointed. I personally prefer the old style headlights and non-digital dashboard. I believe in the UK there has been a recall for the digital dashboard rattling, and the fix is to add extra padding.
22 Giulia QV owner here. I bought a 991.2 911 GTS to drive in the winter in Toronto because I didn't want to put snow tires on my delicate QV. I thought that I'd want to keep the Porsche and get rid of the Alfa when Summer came because the 911 would be better in every way. Ended up selling the 911 because it just didn't provide the same level of sheer driving enjoyment or personality that the QV does. Long live Alfa Romeo.
Google the mopar maxcare warranty from zeigler auto group. You have to basically get a PPI from any jeep / dodge / chrysler dealer for $100-200. If you get a clean bill of health, you can purchase the bumper to bumper warranty for a pretty reasonable price. It made me feel comfortable buying a higher mileage one and driving it hard and often.
Same I also looked up the Redriven video as well very informative. The 2.0t in the car doesn’t seem all that bad either tbh and good transmission with the ZF 8 speed. The only thing that scares me is finding parts and pricing. So if you end up finding any issues please let me know.
Had a 2018 Ti with over 80000 and tracked it often. No issues. Traded in for a 2022 QV and tracking it constantly with no issues again. Only 15000km though.
my absolute favorite thing about the quadrifoglio is the absolute THUNDERCLAP you get on WOT upshifts, especially the 1-2 and 2-3 upshifts. It actually dropped my jaw the first time I test drove one. The new headlights aren't my favorite thing in the world and i really thought the analog gauges were amazing- the digital cluster is FINE, but unnecessary. The small screen in between the dials did everything you needed it to. These do genuinely drive amazingly well, though. My parents recently replaced our family van (a 2005 odyssey) with a Stelvio Ti Sport and got my brother a Giulia Ti Sport. They're both incredible. The steering is absolutely telepathic, and the Stelvio is actually pretty fun to drive. Although the 2.0 isn't the most inspiring engine to use with the paddles, still very fun cars to drive and have been pretty great to own - although after changing the oil on both yesterday, I'm finding out they have no built-in way to reset the maintenance light and some people are seeing dealers charging $100 to do that. That's one thing I love about my RS3, that I can reset the service interval right in the MMI.
Great video and analysis! One comment: I don't get it why we still talk about the lack of race mode in non-QV models... There is a way to enable it and another way to completely switch off the ABS if you want. All non-QV models may have race mode activated, it is just that in some MY is easier / cheaper to do so. You can also switch from AWD to RWD in Q4 models. These extra functionalities add a lot of value to the already wonderful car made by Alfa. I am pretty sure that many people avoided the Giulias because "they were not able to switch off traction control".. What a pity for them and for Alfa...
As someone who is a big AR fan and has a QV and rented a few Veloces (mid trim lets say) for few years (in my company). Id add few pieces of information. One of the drawbacks of "top-down" design that might seem minute, but really, really annoys me, is steering in Q4 versions (all wheel drive). QV is rear driven, but mid trim (veloce) was always AWD, and after refresh, all non QV versions are AWD. The thing is - since its top-down, there wasnt enough room for proper wheel movement with AWD. AS a result, AWD Giulia versions have really obnoxious turning radius. Again - maybe it wont bother you. But making a 180 degree turn on a narrow road in 5 steps instead of 3, or adding extra corrections every time i park in a tighter spot is annoying. I have a road next to my house. 2 lanes each direction with around 1 meter grass divider. I cant turn 180 degree from left lane.... I either have to start U-turn from right lane, or do a correction. I can do this turn in 5.5M SUV easily... Another one is the infamous reliablity. The newer ones are very very good at it and come with baseline 5 year warranty. Older ones are 2 year warranty and have plenty of annoying little problems that got ironed out later on. The other part is, what some people might find a GOOD thing. Giulia has really no safeguards most modern cars have. You can rev it up with no limits - 1 sec after cold start you can hang at almost 7k rpm. There is zero "resistance" from car. You can do a lot of stupid (albeit fun) things in it , which will shorten the lifespan considerably. Basically - if you take good care of her, she is reliable. Do stupid stuff, and you will be punished. That is particularly a problem if you buy used one. You never know what the previous owner did in them - and they might have ruined it. The rented Veloces were breaking up constantly. The ones i owned including my QV were super reliable. Go figure. All in all its a very fun car. You might find it strange, but i must say i often prefer driving my QV to my C8 Z06 Corvette from pure driving perspective. It just feels more agile. RIght now its summer, so the HTC convertible means my Giulia rests unless its heavy rain , but outside of it, they are very close in "driving fun".
Top down approach, absolutely. That is why we bought one five years ago. No regrets, still smiling, Remember to keep a good care of the battery as it is the main reason of vast amount of false positive "problems". Other than that, no problems so far.
The fuel pump thing used to happen to my old spider all the time. The electrical connection to the fuel pump simply wouldn’t hang on and random bumps would leave me on the side of the road working on it.
Hi owner of two Giulia’s here. The 2019+ are way more reliable than the 17-18 cars. Also you can add race mode to the 2.0L cars rather easily in a few hours or less. The Q2 (rwd) 2.0L cars have a limited slip differential. The sunroof problems were fixed in the facelift cars in 2020. No one I know is willing to trade this car for a 3 series. I disagree about the backseat, I can’t sit behind my driving position and I’m 5’10 like James but I don’t care because nobody sits back there anyway.
Giulia Ti Sport owner here, Q4 with LSD and adaptive suspension. Handling is sublime, steering rack is incredibly fun with the same steering ratio as a Ferrari 458. It has a double wishbone front, multilink rear, LSD, 50/50 weight distribution, and a chasis developed by the engineer from Ferrari who developed the 458 Speciale. These cars are for petrolheads who care about driving experience over everything else. Tech is terrible, but it has apple carplay and thats all I need. Also I have a tune that brings my 0-60 to mid 4s and allows me to disengage the front diff for RWD only, burnout mode, launch mode, and of course turn off the TC. I also have a bluetooth OBD2 dongle plugged in so I can troubleshoot on the fly, no major problems but the battery and multiair unit can be finicky.
Owned my 2017 Giulia Quad for over 2 years now. Has Sparco CF Seats and Carbon Ceramic brakes. I personally like the way the ceramics feel on the road. Feels that much more racey. It's probably as close as you can get to Ferrari feeling. I actually owned a 2018 giulia ti before I got my quad. Never had any issue's with it, either. ABSOLUTELY love both cars. But the quad so much more. It's a hell of an automobile I call it a "fine instrument". It does exactly what you want it to do. You really wanna be willing to focus and drive when you're in it, though. Only complaints, myself: I have a 2017 Giulia quad and I only wish it had a 6-speed manual like they did in europe for a year when it launched and android auto (my 2018 had it) makes dailyability way better. I live in the midwest so it is NOT a winter car. Driving in anger: Rewarding, but risky. Especially with how much trouble you can get in with the Quad. 😂 She's a squirly girl. But she does what you ask. Every time. So be warned. Can powerslide on demand if you know how to play with it. Long story short: worth every penny. But you gotta be willing to accept a few things. Remember: it's a super-sedan. Not a luxury yacht. You don't but an Alfa for the interior quality. You buy it for the way it drives (P.S.) You can install 'Race" mode on all lower Giulia's if you know what you're doing. I've done it, myself. Keep up the amazing vids, guys!!
Good vid - as a QF owner I have always said the strongest thing about the car, are the basic Giulia bits. The seating positon, interior space, touch points etc are all superb and it feels light and on its toes at all times, yet with great traction and amazing front end grip. It's a shame more base Giulias were not sold. Also I know journos like to obsess about the infotainment, but the driving position and interior materials and style are lovely - too many modern cars are made of cheap plastic with a nasty screen bolted on. Those cars won't age well.
@@damilolaakanni sorry, i don't consider Audi between the "good to drive" cars, the only one with good weight balance and which does not understeer is the R8 and its production is dismissed (sadly)
Now I know there's going to be a lot of comments about Alfa's reliability, but from what I heard, they're about as reliable as a BMW now. I know that's not a high bar, but that's better than what they used to be.
@@xelaander8429 No, they're not. They have been in the top5 reliability wise for the past 5 years. Ignorance does a lot to people who cant keep their stupid mouths shut.
I have 4 Alfa Romeos. 33,155q4,156 phase 3 v6 Giulietta qv and I never had a problem they are great cars alfa romeo is for those who believe that driving is an art. If you want something common, buy an Audi
I had a 2018 Ti and it lost battery charge every time the temperatures dipped below 40°F. Very frustrating. But wow, what a phenomenal driving experience.
@@nessuno5403 that's what I hear. Maybe I'll trade in my fuddy duddy CX30 on a MY20+ Giulia in the future. I do miss that car. I don't miss the $5k bill to change the water pump and timing belt though
@@Shmuel_Aqui it needed a timing belt and water pump, parts were on back order for months, shops were backed up for weeks and the dealership wanted $5k for a $2k job while refusing to sell the parts without service. It was either drive it till it blows up or dip out, so I dipped.
Picked up a CPO 22 QV in verde montreal in Nov 2023. Already put 10,000 kms and this is pure driving joy. Unique vehicle, turns heads and carbon fibre everywhere including bucket seats
i believe it would have done better if there was trim between ti and QV something along the lines hp wise 380 ish..numbers that are similar to a m340i or cla amg 45 or ct4 V
The more experience i get with driving, the more i realise it's not the power that is most important. How often do we stomp on the throttle? and besides, if you want to stomp on the throttle, the lower powered car, you get to enjoy it longer. What matters is the chassis, steering and how you live with it. in that case, the cheaper less powerful one is PLENTY fast enough, but essentially the same 98% of the time.
I agree. I have learned that suspension, tires, brakes, and seats are just as important as displacement. I recently got a MKZ, 2016 with the 3.7 naturally asperated v6. It is super fun to drive in sport mode on a local curvy road, however it is fwd and confidence on corners is much lower than the 2020 challenger i had. The seats on the mkz arent bolstered well and you slide when really cornering. You can tell that it isnt a sports car when pushing it. But the engine is really good and the only time it lacks is 0-60 straight line. It has all the power needed for the curvy road. I put new brakes on it and the mkz stops on a dime, almost too well. Its about same weight as the challenger but stops so much quicker now. Point is, speed wise i couldnt go much faster in the challenger on the curvy road, but it was easier in the challenger because of the suspension.
@@neilgendzwill3260 Not really. Stock Miata's have soft springs that handle like wallowy poop. I love Miata's but they require suspension modifications to be competent.
I have a 2019 Giulia with 60,000 kms. Still under warranty, and the only warranty claim made so far is an electronic issue with the front passenger seat. Not bad at all!
Have had a 2017 Giulia since 2018 and it’s been amazing. I sorted out the suspension with coilovers and got a stupendous set of brakes and slotted rotors from EBC. And yes - there is a tune to include race mode. 😉
I had a 2017 Giulia Ti for three years. It broke down in the first two weeks. They put in a new battery, and downloaded an update. Never had another problem with it.
3 years? Is that even enough to get out of warranty?
4 year/50k mile factory warranty, so no.... Unless he bought it used, like me. @@NathanaelNaused
@@NathanaelNaused You cant read? It says right there its a 2017 model. Its 7 years old. He bought it 3 years ago when the car was 4...
@@AI-qd4vb maybe don't criticize other people's reading abilities man...
@@NathanaelNausedshould've been 8 years of warranty.
I've had a Giulia QV for 2 years, the interior and tech is absolutely dog water for the price. But the rest of the car is just so satisfying. I sold it to try out the last V8 C class and an Audi RS5. Ended up just buying my old QV back after those both fell short for me.
Also zero issues with it so far, hopefully it stays that way!
No car is perfect, not one. You just have to decide what's priority for you. For me it's looks and chassis dynamics, so the Alfa suits my needs.
@@rlseditionno car perfect but why pay more for something that’s litterally worse than its competitors
@@BMWROYAL Worse, huh? In what way is the Giulia worse than the competition? Certainly not exterior styling or vehicle dynamics. And you're not paying more.
plenty of areas where it's better than competitors. The more subjective areas maybe, but sports cars are subjective/emotional purchases so @@BMWROYAL
Is 500 is hard to beat. 66k for the best trim and you can do 4K in mods to get it over 500hp to the rear tires and sounding amazing.
Absolutely love the expensive vs cheap series. Keep it (and the golden intros) up!
Those golden intros are always 10/10.
@@Future-Classic-Cars Yes, I do actually very much like the series. Was it a generic comment that boosted their algorithm and my online self-esteem because I posted super early and got a whole bunch of likes...? Also yes
@@spencerbair1137 Appreciate your honesty sorry I was in a sh!t mood when I posted that, I'm sure you seem a nice chap! Nothing personal shouldn't have vented at you was chatting shizzz
@@Future-Classic-Cars All good! Have a wonderful day!
My mom has had her Giulia for a few years now from new and has had no issues. My uncle has a Stelvio and his has been solid too. The whole Italian reliability stereotype is kind of getting old now. It just scares people away from owning cars that are an absolute joy
Well said and could'nt agree more!!!
That’s just for Alfa Romeo tho. I believe the Maserati, Ferrari and Fiat engines are still steaming piles of dog shit in terms of reliability
@@mrsoisauce9017Ferraris have engines that simply require a lot of maintenance because they are too powerful for some sensitive parts, such as belts. The Fiat ones depends, those powered by diesel and methane are the last thing to break in Fiats, the problems concern more the mechanic and electronic parts. The Maseratis I agree with you, in terms of reliability they are absolutely shit.
To be honest the whole "Italian reliability" stereotypes only scare those people who aren't willing to sit down even for 10 minutes to do their own research (which I guess is a majority of people sadly) so I'd say serves them right. If you believe rumors and scary tales then you don't deserve to own this car. My dad was an absolute Alfa hater until I bought my Giulia and drove up to their house and now 3 years later he's looking to buy a Stelvio lol.
@@mrsoisauce9017 that s the problem, *you* **believe**, get out there and drive one!
Good to know the regular Giulia still carries the spirit of the Quadrifoglio. As long as the joy of driving is there, it seems like a sweet deal for the lesser price.
If you only invested a little of the savings into a few performance mods to add some pep to the regular model, you'd come out miles in front. Maybe a new exhaust and a custom tune and you're done.
@@andoletube The 2.0 engine is really detuned in the Giulia, with just a remap and downpipe you can get it to about 360-370hp.
@@flyderay That's more than enough power for a car of that size. 👍
And thousands of bucks for the future repairs
The upload timing couldn't be better; it's lunchtime at work. Pure bliss.
Same my alfa just broke down and im waiting for a tow truck
@@justharry2190same also as me drove the 155 Touring Car.
Best feeling !!😂
and Mr. Homer Simpson said: “neeeerdddd!!!”😂😂😂
Current owner of a Giulia Quadrifoglio since 2020. Prior to i had a Giulia Ti and my wife a stelvio. Phenomenal cars we fell in love. Also happy to report we never had issues with any of them. the "battery" comment they made is true but never effected us. Honeslty more reliable than any german car ive owned previously
True that. German cars have reliability reputations far better than they deserve. Even when I owned Peugeots in the 1980-1990s the only parts which ever failed were made in Germany.
That's awesome to hear... I've played with the idea of a Giulia Quadrifoglio but haven't had the courage to take the plunge.
If I go for one, and it goes bad... I'm blaming you, Sir!
@@paulhancock Just make sure to get one of the newer giulias. The Stelvios wont go wrong but the old Giulias are horrible in terms of reliability
@@arshaq4471 no theyre not... Where are you getting that nonsense?
@paulhancock the shape of the Quadrifoglio is like BMW M5 2008.
I'm a Giulia 2017 owner. Got a tune for it for 500 bucks that was just a download that brought it up to 324 hp/500nm also Got the Racemode for 300 bucks (turns traction off) . RWD with lsd was an option and i got it. Also a 600 bucks exhaust will do wonders to the sound. Got 150.000 kms on it and only ever had to do the regular brakepads and tyres. it was a GREAT decision and i love the everlasting fuck out of it.
I also own a Ti. What exhaust do you have for it?
Race mode is a bit more expensive if you have the adaptive suspension. The suspension module needs to be replaced/reprogrammed
what kind of exhaust did you put on it?
Euro :(
I have an 18 Q4 Ti Sport, Squadra tune, race mode and centerline exhaust.
‘22 TI owner here: I absolutely love this car. Most fun I’ve ever had behind the wheel.
19' Veloce owner here: I second that
2020 sprint (200 bhp), I love every kilometer behind the wheel. No issues for now.
now i want one too xD
18 Quadrifoglio owner here,..I agree..truly automotive perfection...
2018 2.0L here. 123k miles and counting. Replaced the battery in year one and it's been a reliable daily. Smiles per mile: absolutely cannot be beat for the price. 100% would buy again.
“Hybrid F1 tech, apparently made out of anvils..” Mercedes catching strays
…with a pathetic 4 cylinder engines that AMG customers hate…
Deservedly
@@71ala AMG has came up with the most powerful production 4-cyl engines for the past decade (M133 and M139/L) and no other manufacturer has caught up yet. The new C63 is faster than the previous V8 powered C63S. The only people that are mad are those who rely on big engines to compensate for what they lack.
@@autofficinaportafortunai have 4750 reasons to not like the new c63
@@autofficinaportafortunayou're not wrong but if all people cared about was stats and 0-60 you might as well get an ev. i'm willing to bet most amg customers would give up some performance to have the v8 back (me with the new toyota trucks...)
Owner of a Giulia Q4 here. Have had no issues and with regular maintenance (which can be pricey it not outrageous) it runs and drives like a dream. Take care of your investments ppl and they will take care
Of u
I own a Ti and can confirm the Ti segment. Such a fun a car for the price point
The Ti and 2006 Alfa Romeo GTV are equally glorious cars.
Honestly, sounds like an equivalent to the M340i - not full-on performance, but fast and fun enough for its price. Never owned an Alfa, but I'm intrigued by Giulia
@@TymaDem it’s probably the closest comparison you can make to it. Now I say it’s the Competitzoné trim level and the Ti is the new base. I would recommend testing a Ti, M350i, S4, and C43 if you looking in to getting an entry sports sedan. Board opinion the Alfa is the best of 4
What's a board option?@@huddystone7994
Had a TI for two weeks now. I am in love with this car.
As a Giulia Quadrifoglio owner, I can confirm that all issues (which have been few and far between) have been related to the battery. I replaced the battery and have not had a single issue. The reliability reputation is unearned for this gen Giulia and it’s silly that so many people, who don’t own nor have driver the car, quickly write off the reliability based on previous Alfa cars that have nothing to do with it
Original owner of a 2018 Giulia QV. 60K miles on the clock. ZERO issues with the car. My out of pocket expenses include tires, brakes, and the 10K maintenance intervals. To note, the front pads and rotors were replaced at 59K miles. The original rear pads and rotors are still on the car and do not require replacement. I literally drive this car in Dynamic and Race everyday. When I purchased the car 6 years ago I was the butt of all jokes. I am happy I made the jump and have 6 years of pure driving bliss as my reward. Would do it again in a heartbeat.
4 years and 50,000kms driving a 2018 Quad with carbon seats and brakes. Came with 3 years of free servicing and 5 year warranty, but in that time I had not a single issue, warning light or problem. Best and most reliable car I’ve ever owned ❤
You’re going to want to swap to steel brakes or sell the car when the time comes to replace them
Same.
There doesn't come a time to replace the CCBs. That's the whole point of them.@@kilroywashere9678
@@kilroywashere9678u almost never have to change the disks
@@kilroywashere9678If you're not on the track all the time brake discs last over 100,000 miles.
Once a legend said, "Alfa builds a car to be as good as a car can be....briefly!"
Edit 2* - Omg it crossed 2.5K likes, thanks guys!
Jeremy Clarkson
@@adrianlee2357Jeremy Clarkson?
BS. These Alfas are as reliable as any of its true competitors.
Same guy also said "Youre not a true petrolhead unless youve owned an Alfa Romeo"
@@dienormaxjeanalso JC
That is true about battery, 98% of the problems are related to bad battery(factory one). Put the battery aside, and you have pretty reliable car.
Yeah - you can upgrade to an AGM one - everyone uses one from costco. Mine still seems to have a very small drain. I put it on a trickle charger overnight every month or two and have had no issues since i started doing that. I also have an aftermarket wireless android auto/carplay module which might be causing the drain.
@@bandagraphCheck the seat buttons and a radio button at the dealer. My 2021 G QV had a parasitic draw on a faulty seat control module. Replaced under warranty, no issues ever since.
All improved from MY20
I wouldn't put the battery on the side though. Might fall off.
@@mediocreman2 lmao 😂
This channel is truly a spiritual successor of Top Gear (CHM era). The banter, chemistry and the enthusiasm are just right. You guys rock.
Don't get carried away you child (in Clarkson's voice)...
@@chrisSVT claasrksonnnnnnn
These guys are too milk toast to be anything like TG.
@@MGR99 if you're gonna use that insult, at least spell it correctly lmfao
@@frcShoryukenHe's right, though. They're too milquetoast to compare to TG.
Bought a 1owner and fully serviced 2017 QV 3 months ago with 109k mi, carbon ceramics, carbon buckets and absolutely love it. Had it serviced recently and given a good bill of health from the Alfa dealer!!! All for 23k US!!!
Legend 😲
thats awesome
A wise man also said “you’re not a true petrolhead until you own an Alfa Romeo” and I can tell you every second of driving mine has been pure enjoyment!
What do you know
Some say he is the sexiest man of the kingdom, some say he can smell if someone's a vegitarian from several miles away, all we know is that the wise man is called JEREMY CLARKSON
Me too
"Speed never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's that'll get you."
@@Luza500I know that I absolutely adore my Giulia 2.0 and will enjoy driving her until she will no longer move under her own ability!!
MY19 (non-opf) Quadrifoglio 1st owner with 40k km who never had any issues with the car. More reliable than many of the BMW 3 & 5 series I had . Dynamically the best sport sedan in the market, still after over 8 years of age.
Horrible Alfa compared to any BMW
@@hassanger8128 Tell us you know absolutely nothing about sport cars dynamics without telling us that you know absolutely nothing about sport cars dynamics. 🤡
@@ragnarlothbrok2782 Yes, still!!! And I happily sit down in the driver seat of my Quadrifoglio, thinking of the vast majority of car journalist who all agree on which sport sedan is dynamically still the best and stil the most engaging and fun one after 8 yrs on the market. No contest.
I recommend driving one because you clearly never have you clown 🤭
Compared to a BMW everything is reliable
Picked up a ‘24 QV Carbonio trim (red leather, gold calipers, on Rosso GTA) on June 1. What an incredible car. I am definitely keeping it forever, there won’t be another ICE sedan that drives like this ever again.
Great choose. Definitely a keeper.
I read that as a Carbonara trim lmao
Enjoy the drive!
what a choice, enjoy the hell out of that!
Great car, but I would get the M3 Competition instead
I currently own a 1988 Milano Gold Automatic! 200,638 miles currently, runs and drives! Just spent $3500 on all around new brakes. This is my 15th Alfa! Love Throttle House! Great video as always!
My mom still has her 2018 Giulia Veloce (Ti for you guys) that she got new. Only real breakdown was the can bus electronics going a bit haywire this year after 6 years of trouble free driving. And it was just a single connector shaken a bit loose on the amplifier, just needed to be plugged back in and it didn't stop the car from firing up and driving just fine. The way the thing dances in the corners is just fucking beautiful, going on a trip to the other side of europe and getting to push it on twisty italian roads was somewhat of a religious experience, you could tell that's what it was made for. The quickest steering this side of a Ferrari just makes pointing it into a corner so fun. The Q4 AWD is great. The gearbox is amazing and has that same satisfying kick in the back on upshift in dynamic mode as in the QV. The 4 cylinder may not be the best engine, but it's got a bit of character, the quirky very-turbo way it makes power, the fact it's slightly rough on idle, not too much to be annoying, but just enough to let you know there's something alive under the hood waiting to be used, compared to all the perfectly smooth and silent german vacuum cleaner 4 cylinders out there. I'm in love with the car and just can't seem to drive it calmly every time I get behind the wheel. It just gives you so much confidence to push on right from the jump, it's incredible.
The lack of ability to turn TC off never bothered me that much, dynamic mode gives you grip in the dry and let's you have just the right amount of fun when it's particularly rainy (or even more when it's snowy). And while it's not the most tech focused, it still has all the stuff you want and need in a good daily. Can't say enough good things about it.
QV 2021 owner here. Every person who has driven my car absolutely loves it. Whether they are an enthusiast driving in race mode or an aunty driving in normal mode.
Can I drive your QV??🤣 never got the chance to at the dealership before leaving with my 2.0. Looking to get one eventually
@@RobR-om2yv come to Dubai my friend
My 2018 Veloce Q4 came with 7 years warranty and I´ve driven it across Europe, several times without a glitch. I´ve had to fix a rattle in the door, change the battery and the fuel filler lid. As most others had to. All on warranty. These cars are reliable.
The door rattles are real but yeah otherwise reliable
I’m just curious why do you think the used prices for these are so low then? There must be some horror stories out there to warrant the heavy decline in price right? I mean there is literally a 2017 with 55k miles and clean title really close to me for only 15k. Interior is a little dated and lower end than the competitors sure but that’s really cheap
@@Father-klovkoskithe stereotype of unreliability is hurting it more than it should, add in also the fact that cars isnt popular and dealership net isnt as big as for german makers
@@Father-klovkoskiDamn I bet you could haggle a grand or two off just because the dealership wants to move that car but can’t.
I'm 21 and I bought a 2017 Alfa Giulia Ti Q4 at 20 years old. It has 38k on the clock and it is the best car I have ever driven. I appraise cars for a living, so I have been behind the wheel of many different cars, Honda S2Ks, M3s, Merc AMGS, and Corvettes. Out of all of the vehicles I have driven, my Alfa Romeo drives better than them all. I have yet to drive a car with as much steering feel, chassis balance and sheer beauty to drive. I had the opportunity to drive the Quad a year ago from a colleague but I passed it down to preserve my love for mine. Maybe I'm the outlier but I have had no issues with my car. Everything has worked, maintenance has been just like any other car, and I run my car hard. Yes it's a roll of the dice to buy one, but I do not regret purchasing it at all
Giulia Ti Q4 is as good as Alfa Romeo Sprint Speciale.
lol. It doesn’t have any miles on it yet. Good luck!
Alfa lover spotted
Man that sounds awesome! How did you end up apprasing cars for a living, if you don't mind me asking?
@@eight2810 I work at a very big car dealership in the DC area. We have a dedicated appraisal team that does appraisals for trading and selling. We try to buy about 100 cars a month
Thanks for the shoutout, guys. Legends!
Bought a 2023 Giulia QV last year. I've owned a Mustang, and a Corvette and this car is the best I've ever owned or driven. I like the classic retro feel of the interior over the screen based interior on the M3.
0:06 the “SPAGHETI” number plate 😂 you guys go in hard
The "SPAGHETI" number plates surprisingly cool.😂
mammamia
@@kimnotking9742 typical ignorance! It's "mamma mia" (and spaghetti, but he's got an excuse because of not enough letters possible)
@@alessandroxelaDue parole, semmai 😊
@@kimnotking9742 dioboia
The first English speaking channel I've seen that pronounces "Quadrifoglio" perfectly. As an Italian, THANK YOU!!!
I'm guessing that literally everything in that comment was pronounced incorrectly except for "Quadrofoglio".
😊
Correct pronunciation is "Four-leaf clover" right?
È facile!
No, no, no...they didn't use their hands.
I’ve genuinely never heard it pronounced differently than in this video
@@marcob1729people say the g
7:24 this whole scene was gold, made me grin and say "idiots" out loud, which is about the best reaction possible
Thats 10/10.
Folks I’ve owned a 2018 Giulia Quadrifoglio for five years and have had no issues. It’s a riot to pilot and I consider reliability bulletproof. Car gets all recommended factory service plus two oil changes annually regardless of miles driven. Understanding how this engine was built and works is key to anticipating potential issues and addressing them proactively. It’s been more reliable than our late model year Toyotas.
the mere fact that you have to do all that effort just to keep it running says everything about the state of European cars. you as the customer should not be doing the manufacturer's job
@@sunny-sq6ciToyota engines are catching fire.
My dad had an Alfa Spyder 2000 square back similar to seen in the intro. He drove that thing to work and me to school in it. Pure, and I mean pure bliss when it worked. I miss you pops 💖
I own a 2019 Ti and I’ve put 67K miles on it outside of regular maintenance I’ve never had a problem with this car and it’s very fun to drive
I realized something about every Guila/Stelvio QF owner that I know of. They all have lots of experience with all the competition, and could afford any one of them. The fact that they still chose the fast Alfas really speaks to the greatness of these cars.
Alfa sales figures are extremely low. For example, BMW sold 42 times more than Alfa in 2023.
So, Alfa is a niche car manufacturer
Exactly. I’ve done BMWs and Audis. Never again. Boring household appliances, and a dime a dozen - you see them everywhere as the sheep like to follow one another. I’m a Alfa owner now. Perhaps I’ll consider a Maserati in the future but it seems a bit ostentatious to me. Price is not an issue for me. I also have a new MX-5. I love it.
Had my Veloce 4 years and instead of trading it for anything else I’m keeping it. First time I’ve ever done that. Great car, zero issues.
I have owned 2 Alfa’s, multiple Fiats, 2 Lancia’s and rarely had any issues with any of them. I maintain all my cars regularly and head off problems before they crop up. Love Italian cars!!
my dad has a 2022 Veloce. Might be his favorite car hes ever owned. No issues and it handles like an absolute dream. Breath of fresh air when it feels like few manufacturers care about driving dynamics anymore
To anyone interested, AR really got their act together from 2019 and onwards. I’ve had 3 since, over 120,000 miles between them and had never had an issue outside of maintenance.
I agree, great to hear your good experience.
However, still some lingering TSB's including electrical issues, oil & coolant leaks on the 19 all of which are very expensive to fix out of warranty.
My advice is stick with a 2021+ that it still under factory warranty then consider adding the 7yr moparmaxcare warranty. Its around $2,000 which is pretty fair considering the cost to repair these Alfa's. Look at the quotes to replace the oil pump!
How much are the oil changes ?
How much are oil changes ?
@@mmf9765 I do my own and pay $75 for the required SP-spec Mopar Oil&Filter. I assume dealerships charge similar plus 0.5 to1hr of labor. Rates vary by region/dealership so best to just call your local shop and get a quote.
On my second 2.0 Ti Sport Q4 (essentially the same spec as the current Veloce) First was a lease to test the waters. It's incredibly fun and has been trouble free. Thought about a Quad but realized it was overkill for me and used the extra cash to fund my incurable motorcycle addiction.
For those who lament a subpar-but-functional backup camera and a clunky-but-okay infotainment system, you get an excellent double-wishbone/multi-link indy suspension, great ride quality, and increased everyday giggles.
God that car is breathtakingly beautiful
Picked up a used 18 Q4 sport, had it for 2 years now. Had some electrical glitches, however replacing of the Battery with an Interstate corrected them.
Car has been reliable, and fun. The only other change was replacing the stock 235/45 Bridgestones to 245/40 Michelin AS pilots Zero pressure. The car handles even better after the tire change.
Keep up the fantastic work guys,
I had a Giulia Veloce for 4 years, it was great. I had it mapped to 340BHP and it was awesome fun. I traded it in and got a Stelvio QV, never looked back. That Ferarri engine is a beast!
I know they are small changes but that quadrifoglio looks so much better. The daytime running lights are so aggressive. Love it.
Not really a car fan but not missing one episode of this telenovela since I discovered the channel! So well put together!
The battery thing is pretty true, in a lot of cases it does fix the issues, it did for me.
Just a new battery but it's the same type?
Same here. New battery fixed a brake warning and comfort access key issue in our older bmw and many door lock and hatch opening issues with our Mazda.
@@elvistwatty something with the one that came from the factory and its quality, its weird i get it, but it has fixed many issues on the Giulia forum almost so much so that the very first response you get when you have an issue is battery change.
All improved from MY20
This was the best recommended to watch truly, this is the only car channel I can watch simply because to me it feels so much above the competition (my subjective opinion). A review for a car I was thinking about buying truly appreciated
Former 2017 Giulia TI Sport owner here. I miss that car sometimes. I am currently in a BMW 2 series and i love it for the performance. Thr Giulia has much better handling, but my BMW would smoke it with ease. However, i will be going back to Alfa Romeo at the end of this year to a Quadrifoglio! I love the AR platform
I can't lie, I have total admiration (and sympathy) for anyone who buys a Giulia Quadrifoglio over the equivalent Audi, Merc or BMW. I respect it!
The new C63 AMG is worse. Heavily boosted 4 cylinder engine and a PHEV drivetrain that makes the car unnecessarily heavy. So I can see why someone would pick this over the new C63. Not the old one though, many still love the sound of a good and powerful V8.
Good for those 7 people
There is no equivalent to the Giulia Quadrifoglio in my opinion. But I agree with your statement.
I have a 2020 Ti Sport Q4 Carbon with over 81k miles and it’s been mostly reliable save for the battery issues I can attest to. It’s a dream to drive and brings a smile to my face every time I’m in it.
I have a ‘19 QV and never had an issue. Love my car.
For anyone leaving comments regarding reliability, Iv been dailying a 2017 QV for 7 years, it’s got 137k km on it, only issues Iv had is driver side handbrake caliper has a fault, a cable snapped in the loom on the bulkhead but I actually put this down to having the screen replaced (not so well the way everything went back together) was an easy fix, I have suffered with the water ingress issue to do with the hvac settings, other than that, these things are bullet proof, I drive it hard and have done since run in. Owned a fair few M cars, 3’s and 4’s that had more issues than the Alfa. The Giulia is 💯 the best car iv ever owned and will never sell it! 😁❤
I’ve had my 2017 Giulia TI for four years and other than a few battery related issues I’ve had zero problems. Favorite car I’ve ever owned.
The Giulia Ti Sport I owned for five years and 50k miles was way more reliable and way sweeter to drive than all our German cars. Wish I never sold it. Just got a new M3P and it's great, but it ain't a Giulia.
i got a new quad in september 2022 and it has been bomb proof apart from when the e brake decided to stop working in heavy traffic when i pulled on the button and put it in neutral , turned it off waited a minute and it was fine . alfa dealer couldn't find anything wrong. the AC is also kind of shit in the summer but i love it i cant see myself driving anything else for a long time
There are only two flaws that I find with the giulia (any model). And that is the steering angle is too wide and the AC is so weak. Change those and the car will be perfect. I still wouldn't trade mine in for anything except for a quad
What does steering angle being too wide mean @@alex1695lopez?
@@alex1695lopez I have a 2018 Giulia and find the AC to gets blistering cold. I came from a 2012 Chevy Cruze so maybe that's why lol.
@@alex1695lopezI live in Miami and my Stelvio a/c freezes me out in the summer. It's better than my Mercedes
@@alex1695lopez have someone who knows what they’re doing check it out. I also thought mine was weirdly weak until I got it leak tested and found a super tiny refrigerant leak which wasn’t enough to stop the ac from working, but enough to nerf it substantially.
Picked up a new quad over a month ago, so can’t say much about reliability yet, but boy it’s a blast to drive! 🌶️🌶️🌶️ Thanks for the excellent review guys! 🍀
As a owner of a heavily modified 2.0 with 430hp, im so Happy that this video shows the strenght of the 2.0. its an Amazing handling car and with the right Upgrades, youve got a weapon!
Damn!
How are you getting 430hp?? Hybrid turbo?
@@sicilianstyle4517 yes, modified camshafts, turbo, downpipe, intake etc
@@margaronedario9003you got instagram? Or any type of content of it, I’m highly interested I also own a 2.0
Hai aperto il motore per reggere quei cavalli?
Had a 2017 Giulia QV up until last year, Absolutely the best car I have ever had, No service issues, incredible performance and drivability.
I owned a 2019 for 3 years. The oil pump went out at 35k miles and the evap system was constantly throwing codes....... I plan on buying another one next year. They're so much fun to drive and look incredible.
All much improved from MY20
Haha, that opening, thats me with my Fiat 124. "Behold the joy that is classic car motoring."
Mines in the garage on jacks right now. All the rubber bushings are done. Oil pan and trans pan are both leaking, but she was driving before I parked it. Not sure whether to rebuild the motor or swap it, but anything other than the twin cam seems blasphemous.
I have a 2017 TI Q2 with the adaptive dampers and 80K miles. Bought it for $16.5k USD (72k miles) and immediately put a new battery in. Totally reliable for last 8k miles. Recommend the Q2 if you don't need AWD. Way better turning radius than Q4 and limited slip over non-q2
I paid another 2.2k for the mopar maxcare warranty 3yr / 30k miles. I had one small oil leak repair done under warranty - small enough that no oil is on the ground but was diagnosed during an oil change.
Thank you for the great review. I had a model year 2022 Giulia Veloce which I loved but got the option to buy a model year 2022 Quadrifoglio for a great price, and am very pleased I took the plunge. The Quadrifoglio is an amazing car, and is a fantastic all rounder. If you can afford a Quad and are hesitating about a purchase, just go ahead and buy it. You won't be disappointed. I personally prefer the old style headlights and non-digital dashboard. I believe in the UK there has been a recall for the digital dashboard rattling, and the fix is to add extra padding.
22 Giulia QV owner here. I bought a 991.2 911 GTS to drive in the winter in Toronto because I didn't want to put snow tires on my delicate QV. I thought that I'd want to keep the Porsche and get rid of the Alfa when Summer came because the 911 would be better in every way. Ended up selling the 911 because it just didn't provide the same level of sheer driving enjoyment or personality that the QV does. Long live Alfa Romeo.
I was just looking at videos mentioning common issues and stuff to check before purchase. Then I saw this video just dropped. You guys are awesome.
Google the mopar maxcare warranty from zeigler auto group. You have to basically get a PPI from any jeep / dodge / chrysler dealer for $100-200. If you get a clean bill of health, you can purchase the bumper to bumper warranty for a pretty reasonable price. It made me feel comfortable buying a higher mileage one and driving it hard and often.
Try buying from MY20, better built
Same I also looked up the Redriven video as well very informative. The 2.0t in the car doesn’t seem all that bad either tbh and good transmission with the ZF 8 speed. The only thing that scares me is finding parts and pricing. So if you end up finding any issues please let me know.
Don’t get any Alfa BEFORE MY2020. Afterwards is good
Hey, CONGRATULATIONS HARRISON! That's amazing man!
Ive been wanting this video for YEARSS
Had a 2018 Ti with over 80000 and tracked it often. No issues. Traded in for a 2022 QV and tracking it constantly with no issues again. Only 15000km though.
my absolute favorite thing about the quadrifoglio is the absolute THUNDERCLAP you get on WOT upshifts, especially the 1-2 and 2-3 upshifts. It actually dropped my jaw the first time I test drove one. The new headlights aren't my favorite thing in the world and i really thought the analog gauges were amazing- the digital cluster is FINE, but unnecessary. The small screen in between the dials did everything you needed it to.
These do genuinely drive amazingly well, though. My parents recently replaced our family van (a 2005 odyssey) with a Stelvio Ti Sport and got my brother a Giulia Ti Sport. They're both incredible. The steering is absolutely telepathic, and the Stelvio is actually pretty fun to drive. Although the 2.0 isn't the most inspiring engine to use with the paddles, still very fun cars to drive and have been pretty great to own - although after changing the oil on both yesterday, I'm finding out they have no built-in way to reset the maintenance light and some people are seeing dealers charging $100 to do that. That's one thing I love about my RS3, that I can reset the service interval right in the MMI.
Great video and analysis! One comment: I don't get it why we still talk about the lack of race mode in non-QV models... There is a way to enable it and another way to completely switch off the ABS if you want. All non-QV models may have race mode activated, it is just that in some MY is easier / cheaper to do so. You can also switch from AWD to RWD in Q4 models. These extra functionalities add a lot of value to the already wonderful car made by Alfa.
I am pretty sure that many people avoided the Giulias because "they were not able to switch off traction control".. What a pity for them and for Alfa...
As someone who is a big AR fan and has a QV and rented a few Veloces (mid trim lets say) for few years (in my company). Id add few pieces of information.
One of the drawbacks of "top-down" design that might seem minute, but really, really annoys me, is steering in Q4 versions (all wheel drive). QV is rear driven, but mid trim (veloce) was always AWD, and after refresh, all non QV versions are AWD. The thing is - since its top-down, there wasnt enough room for proper wheel movement with AWD. AS a result, AWD Giulia versions have really obnoxious turning radius. Again - maybe it wont bother you. But making a 180 degree turn on a narrow road in 5 steps instead of 3, or adding extra corrections every time i park in a tighter spot is annoying. I have a road next to my house. 2 lanes each direction with around 1 meter grass divider. I cant turn 180 degree from left lane.... I either have to start U-turn from right lane, or do a correction. I can do this turn in 5.5M SUV easily...
Another one is the infamous reliablity. The newer ones are very very good at it and come with baseline 5 year warranty. Older ones are 2 year warranty and have plenty of annoying little problems that got ironed out later on. The other part is, what some people might find a GOOD thing. Giulia has really no safeguards most modern cars have. You can rev it up with no limits - 1 sec after cold start you can hang at almost 7k rpm. There is zero "resistance" from car. You can do a lot of stupid (albeit fun) things in it , which will shorten the lifespan considerably. Basically - if you take good care of her, she is reliable. Do stupid stuff, and you will be punished. That is particularly a problem if you buy used one. You never know what the previous owner did in them - and they might have ruined it. The rented Veloces were breaking up constantly. The ones i owned including my QV were super reliable. Go figure.
All in all its a very fun car. You might find it strange, but i must say i often prefer driving my QV to my C8 Z06 Corvette from pure driving perspective. It just feels more agile. RIght now its summer, so the HTC convertible means my Giulia rests unless its heavy rain , but outside of it, they are very close in "driving fun".
I have a 2019 Giulia Quadrifoglio NRING edition I have had since new. I absolutely LOVE IT!!!
I knew I'd find you in the comments!
I’ll eat it with my new Mustang , what’s up 😂
@@cormaro13 the only thing you are eating is Kyle who is filming everyone leave cars and coffee 😂
@@doadea 😂 what’s up , line it up boy , I’ll make you taste some American lunch lol
@@cormaro13 Till you get to a turn lmao
Top down approach, absolutely. That is why we bought one five years ago. No regrets, still smiling, Remember to keep a good care of the battery as it is the main reason of vast amount of false positive "problems". Other than that, no problems so far.
Man I always forget how good these videos are, the cinematography and the soundtracks. This channel puts carwow to shame, and I LOVE carwow.
The fuel pump thing used to happen to my old spider all the time. The electrical connection to the fuel pump simply wouldn’t hang on and random bumps would leave me on the side of the road working on it.
Hi owner of two Giulia’s here. The 2019+ are way more reliable than the 17-18 cars. Also you can add race mode to the 2.0L cars rather easily in a few hours or less. The Q2 (rwd) 2.0L cars have a limited slip differential. The sunroof problems were fixed in the facelift cars in 2020. No one I know is willing to trade this car for a 3 series. I disagree about the backseat, I can’t sit behind my driving position and I’m 5’10 like James but I don’t care because nobody sits back there anyway.
What kind of problems have you encountered with the pre 2019 cars?
Funny enough my 2020 TI Sport RWD doesn't have the limited slip differential. I ran the VIN and checked the window sticker, I guess it's not standard.
Between the "Harrison extender" and the opening skit I laughed so hard I choked. This is the best car show on You Tube.
Giulia Ti Sport owner here, Q4 with LSD and adaptive suspension. Handling is sublime, steering rack is incredibly fun with the same steering ratio as a Ferrari 458. It has a double wishbone front, multilink rear, LSD, 50/50 weight distribution, and a chasis developed by the engineer from Ferrari who developed the 458 Speciale. These cars are for petrolheads who care about driving experience over everything else. Tech is terrible, but it has apple carplay and thats all I need. Also I have a tune that brings my 0-60 to mid 4s and allows me to disengage the front diff for RWD only, burnout mode, launch mode, and of course turn off the TC.
I also have a bluetooth OBD2 dongle plugged in so I can troubleshoot on the fly, no major problems but the battery and multiair unit can be finicky.
2018 Ti Sport 135,600 miles so far and I still love it!!
I just purchased a CPO Veloce for all the reasons you guys stated in the video. Thanks for the excellent review
Damn both look amazing in red
The ONLY colour an Alfa should come in.
@@ChaosphereIX Verde Montreal also looks excellent
Well, its Alfa Romeo.
@@XantoS771 true
Misano blue would beg to differ 😅. Both are amazing colors tho! @ChaosphereIX
Love the ReDriven shout out.
Owned my 2017 Giulia Quad for over 2 years now. Has Sparco CF Seats and Carbon Ceramic brakes. I personally like the way the ceramics feel on the road. Feels that much more racey. It's probably as close as you can get to Ferrari feeling.
I actually owned a 2018 giulia ti before I got my quad. Never had any issue's with it, either.
ABSOLUTELY love both cars. But the quad so much more. It's a hell of an automobile I call it a "fine instrument". It does exactly what you want it to do. You really wanna be willing to focus and drive when you're in it, though.
Only complaints, myself: I have a 2017 Giulia quad and I only wish it had a 6-speed manual like they did in europe for a year when it launched and android auto (my 2018 had it) makes dailyability way better.
I live in the midwest so it is NOT a winter car.
Driving in anger: Rewarding, but risky. Especially with how much trouble you can get in with the Quad. 😂 She's a squirly girl. But she does what you ask. Every time. So be warned. Can powerslide on demand if you know how to play with it.
Long story short: worth every penny. But you gotta be willing to accept a few things. Remember: it's a super-sedan. Not a luxury yacht. You don't but an Alfa for the interior quality. You buy it for the way it drives
(P.S.) You can install 'Race" mode on all lower Giulia's if you know what you're doing. I've done it, myself.
Keep up the amazing vids, guys!!
Good vid - as a QF owner I have always said the strongest thing about the car, are the basic Giulia bits. The seating positon, interior space, touch points etc are all superb and it feels light and on its toes at all times, yet with great traction and amazing front end grip. It's a shame more base Giulias were not sold. Also I know journos like to obsess about the infotainment, but the driving position and interior materials and style are lovely - too many modern cars are made of cheap plastic with a nasty screen bolted on. Those cars won't age well.
What a car! I wish the latest germans were half as good as this, instead the M3 is a beaver and the C63 is a toyota hybrid...
Nothing on the Audi RS4/RS5? Probably not the best, but they're largely forgotten.
@@damilolaakanni'cause they're soulless
@@damilolaakanni sorry, i don't consider Audi between the "good to drive" cars, the only one with good weight balance and which does not understeer is the R8 and its production is dismissed (sadly)
Now I know there's going to be a lot of comments about Alfa's reliability, but from what I heard, they're about as reliable as a BMW now. I know that's not a high bar, but that's better than what they used to be.
Damn, are BMWs now that problematic?
@@xelaander8429 No, they're not. They have been in the top5 reliability wise for the past 5 years. Ignorance does a lot to people who cant keep their stupid mouths shut.
@@xelaander8429 B58 and S58 engines with the ZF transmission is one of the most reliable combos your can purchase in any car right now
These intros are getting better and better
I had a 2019 Giulia Quadrifoglio as my first car. Absolutely loved it
I have 4 Alfa Romeos. 33,155q4,156 phase 3 v6 Giulietta qv and I never had a problem they are great cars alfa romeo is for those who believe that driving is an art. If you want something common, buy an Audi
I had a 2018 Ti and it lost battery charge every time the temperatures dipped below 40°F. Very frustrating.
But wow, what a phenomenal driving experience.
All improved from MY20
@@nessuno5403 that's what I hear. Maybe I'll trade in my fuddy duddy CX30 on a MY20+ Giulia in the future. I do miss that car.
I don't miss the $5k bill to change the water pump and timing belt though
@@RaijinTheThunderwhy fuddy duddy?
@@Shmuel_Aqui it needed a timing belt and water pump, parts were on back order for months, shops were backed up for weeks and the dealership wanted $5k for a $2k job while refusing to sell the parts without service.
It was either drive it till it blows up or dip out, so I dipped.
@@RaijinTheThunder sorry, I was asking why is the CX30 fuddy duddy. Reviewers are always praising Mazda but I’ve never driven one
The intros never fail to get a chortle out of me
call them chortle house
I literally saw one of these this morning 😮
I own a 2024 Giulia Veloce with 280 HP for 3 weeks now and I love it!
Picked up a CPO 22 QV in verde montreal in Nov 2023. Already put 10,000 kms and this is pure driving joy. Unique vehicle, turns heads and carbon fibre everywhere including bucket seats
i believe it would have done better if there was trim between ti and QV something along the lines hp wise 380 ish..numbers that are similar to a m340i or cla amg 45 or ct4 V
The more experience i get with driving, the more i realise it's not the power that is most important. How often do we stomp on the throttle? and besides, if you want to stomp on the throttle, the lower powered car, you get to enjoy it longer. What matters is the chassis, steering and how you live with it. in that case, the cheaper less powerful one is PLENTY fast enough, but essentially the same 98% of the time.
I agree. I have learned that suspension, tires, brakes, and seats are just as important as displacement.
I recently got a MKZ, 2016 with the 3.7 naturally asperated v6. It is super fun to drive in sport mode on a local curvy road, however it is fwd and confidence on corners is much lower than the 2020 challenger i had. The seats on the mkz arent bolstered well and you slide when really cornering. You can tell that it isnt a sports car when pushing it. But the engine is really good and the only time it lacks is 0-60 straight line. It has all the power needed for the curvy road. I put new brakes on it and the mkz stops on a dime, almost too well. Its about same weight as the challenger but stops so much quicker now. Point is, speed wise i couldnt go much faster in the challenger on the curvy road, but it was easier in the challenger because of the suspension.
That’s why the answer is always Miata.
@@neilgendzwill3260Miata toy and Giulia Daily 👌
@@neilgendzwill3260 Not really. Stock Miata's have soft springs that handle like wallowy poop.
I love Miata's but they require suspension modifications to be competent.
Please do a new vs used jaguar f type video. i love your channel and humor 👍
I've been asking for this for ages!
Or even an F-Type versus XKR comparison
Also, if it hasn't been done, Vantage V8.
I have a 2019 Giulia with 60,000 kms. Still under warranty, and the only warranty claim made so far is an electronic issue with the front passenger seat. Not bad at all!
Have had a 2017 Giulia since 2018 and it’s been amazing. I sorted out the suspension with coilovers and got a stupendous set of brakes and slotted rotors from
EBC. And yes - there is a tune to include race mode. 😉