@@Reecesavage-Alwayswin I bought a Quadrifoglio!! and. LOVE IT!!!!! Im personally a former BMW enthusiast but wow now I am in love with the ALFA... 0-60 in 3.5 sec woohooo!!
Listen Americans I’m English and I have lots of experience owning Italian cars. They maybe unpredictable but they give you so much more than A-B motoring. Japanese cars maybe reliable but they lack emotion, style, passion. Alfa’s have soul even the engine bays look amazing they make you feel alive you connect with them they put a smile on your face. It’s like having a sexy girlfriend you know she might cheat on you but damn she looks hot.
I’m buying the Stelvio this week. Alfa has come a long way in terms of reliability and comfort. It’s a totally sensible car, great value compared to its competitors and still very sexy and fresh.
I'd go with the Stelvio. I like the style more, and it performs way better on road (which both of these vehicles are really made for). Plus, I feel like Range Rovers in general are kind of overrated anymore.
Absolutely true. There's like four or five different stages of Range Rover, and you can't really tell them apart. Nothing else on the road is like the Stelvio, however.
Range Rover's here in the UK are driven by a certain sort of driver....appropriately, Velar sounds like another word for Wanker. Would deffo go for the Stelvio even though it looks like a fat Guilia.
The Stelvio isn't a happy car off road, still it's surprising she passed stage 1 and 2 without too many problems. The Velar on the other hand is better equipped for off road so makes sense her result.
If you were really going off road you’d have to choose the Velar I’d think. But then again you could get a great new Jeep for much less money too. Surprising the Stelvio did so well though. Kinda impressed actually
Chris Dooley remember that the stelvio much like the fiat 500x have jeep pedigree in them, and when it came to making good offroaders Fiat produced what is probably Europe's best small offroader, the fiat Panda 4x4
marco fava Well said!!! Italy has a solid history of all-wheel-drive vehicles: Fiat Campagnola, Alfa Romeo Matta, Lancia Delta Integrale, Lamborghini LM002, Fiat Panda, and one of the best military vehicles, the Iveco LMV 😁👍
Quix true but the thing is that when you spend that much money on an SUV you want it to do at least 2 of the 3 letters fairly to very well and you can compromise on the other, think all the Range Rover Sports, Porsche Cayenne's and Volvo XC90's you see around on the street and they'll spend 95% of their times onroad when they have just as much ability off-road. This is what I like about TFL cars they test their cars in all environments and especially the ones they have been designed to challenge and the ones they're less likely to meet but equally equipped to handle
@Chris Dooley "Great new Jeep"? Go sit in a Velar, go back to your Jeep and you'll feel ashamed for thinking that way. Any Range Rover is much more luxurious than any Jeep.
marco fava - Jeep pedigree in the Alfas? Fiat 500X?? jesus christ what the hell are you talking about???? No-no, look: on one hand you have the 500X and the Renegade that share the same small FWD platform, on the other hand you have the Stelvio and the Giulia sharing a totally different RWD platform, with some Q4 versions, made from scratch and equpping the Alfas exclusively so far.
No its not just as Volvo is not Chinese . They are just wholly owned subsidiaries of Indian and Chinese companies respectively . Jaguar Land Rover will always be british . This comment is coming from an Indian .
You have a very good UA-cam channel. High-quality video content and professional hosts. You have long been time to arrange a race-racing on cars, as in the best years of Top Gear. It will be interesting! 😀👍
I have the same diesel engine in my F-pace, to get tbe fastest 0-60 time you need to shift between 3000 and 3500 RPM. Since all the torque is down low you nedd to shift well before reaching redline.
Yes I have the US version. The best time I got was 7.6 seconds with the way I described above (shifting under 3500 RPM). If I don't do any of that and just floor the gas then I will get around 8.0 to 8.2 seconds.
It is a great car! I you want a fun to drive SUV then you will not be disappointed. The Turbo diesel is quick, has a good amount of power and gets excellent gas mileage, most of my driving is on the highway so I average between 38-40 MPG the best I ever got was 47 MPG. A full tank will get you about 600 miles before needing to refill again. If fuel economy is not very important to you then the supercharged V6 is the way to go. As far as the trim levels go I recommend the prestige, it has a good balance of features and price. If you want all the latest features and technology then get the portfolio, but it costs over $60,000. Either way it is a great fun to drive car. if you have any specific questions just let me know.
I love Stelvio. Not just because I've always loved Alfa Romeos (and have driven them over a decade) but also because I own Stelvio. It really is a great car.
I'm baffled at all the people saying they prefer the Stelvio over the Velar stylewise, I really don't get it, the Velar is absolutely drop dead gorgeous while the Stelvio is just another generic mid size SUV
Hi Nathan, Andre, thanks for the video, much appreciated. Just to make sure you remember how lucky you guys are with the car prices in the USA. In the Netherlands the price of the RangeRover Velar with diesel engine is Euro 135,000 (US$ 161,000) for the first edition..... The Alfa is a lot cheaper, but still with the 4 wheel drive 280 Hp engine, it starts at Euro 62,500 (US$ 74,800). All of this because of the CO2 tax....
I would never off road with these SUV's. Nothing pertaining to there performance, these vehicles are more than capable of handling whatever nature throws at you, but they are so luxurious and beautiful that I wouldn't risk scratching the paint due to debris etc or getting them constantly dirty.
Van Hammer in this segment of cars you don't want more than the ability of Alfa Romeo in Off road because it's a Luxury SUV ...if you want an SUV for off road you can buy a jeep wrangler in half price of range rover velar
I'm going to call it before watching, even though I'm never right. the Stelvio gets stuck on stage 2, and I will still love it. the land rover makes it all the way up.
These vehicles aren't even in the same class. The Stelvio quadrifoglio gets to 60 in 3.3 seconds making it the fastest suv. I'm glad you guys didn't put the best versions against each other.
You tested the shopping car engine on the Velar. Cant see anyone buying the car with this engine in it. The V6 supercharged motor does 5.3sec to 62mph and 155mph..
Actually the Velar only does 2mpg better than the Stelvio on highway and it's tank is 4 litres (over a gallon) smaller - their range on a light cruise will be about the same. Except you'll have buckets more performance under your foot with the Alfa should you want it. 11.1s to 60 would be great for 1985.
There is something wrong with land rover - specs says it has 0-60mph in _8.4_ seconds (according to www.landroverusa.com/vehicles/range-rover-velar/velar/index.html). Probably you forgot to enable performance mode -- seems like you were driving in ECO mode which limits engine output.
ldenis2 usually at their elevation the times get a second higher, 9.4 Still, a mysterious 1.5 seconds slower. Unless diesels get much more impacted by air density than gasolines.
This is really strange. The engine is turbodiesel so the air density should be compensated a little bit. But 2.5 seconds slower is too much even for diesel.... Probably some air leaks in intake... At least with jaguar xf 3.0 diesel and 300 meters above sea level I can get the numbers specified by manufacter.
An SUV that almost failed to pass stage 2, and that was not even 3, compared to Volvo C90 CC (which is a van), I wonder what the functionality of the Alfa Romeo Stelvio.
Have to admit the Alfa looks pretty good. The proportion from the Alfa looks like small hatchback which I like. The Velar has a traditional SUV look which I'm not a fan of. Plus the all Range Rovers look the same.
Thanks for watching! You can also watch Roman's off-road review of the new Velar Here: ua-cam.com/video/LudCglNE2Dg/v-deo.html
@The Fast Lane Car
guys, do you see the views
when Alfa Romeo appears in the description?
wen want more reviews and test on the alfas
Instablaster.
Just bought an Alfa Romeo Stelvio sport AWD TI. It is being delivered tomorrow. Can't wait to get it on and off the road to see what it can do!
How do you like your stelvio sport im thinking of buying one?
I bought one yesterday 210 cv
@@Reecesavage-Alwayswin I bought a Quadrifoglio!! and. LOVE IT!!!!! Im personally a former BMW enthusiast but wow now I am in love with the ALFA... 0-60 in 3.5 sec woohooo!!
@@samsos5796 I ended up getting the sport 6 months ago. I love it more than my 5.0
4 yrs later how has it been?
Listen Americans I’m English and I have lots of experience owning Italian cars. They maybe unpredictable but they give you so much more than A-B motoring. Japanese cars maybe reliable but they lack emotion, style, passion. Alfa’s have soul even the engine bays look amazing they make you feel alive you connect with them they put a smile on your face. It’s like having a sexy girlfriend you know she might cheat on you but damn she looks hot.
I love the interiors of the velar but I would buy the Stelvio, the way it drives it’s simply amazing
Parra comu mangi
Vincenzo Vecchio parru, manciu e scrivo ‘nso cche vuogghu 😊
Mpari mi piaci sta alfa pari na formula unu
Love the Stelvio
Alfa Romeo ❤
Alfa squad! :)
I would go for the Stelvio personally, it looks so much better
Stelvio looks so much better
I’m buying the Stelvio this week. Alfa has come a long way in terms of reliability and comfort. It’s a totally sensible car, great value compared to its competitors and still very sexy and fresh.
I'd go with the Stelvio. I like the style more, and it performs way better on road (which both of these vehicles are really made for). Plus, I feel like Range Rovers in general are kind of overrated anymore.
MultiPurposeReviewer your right .. plus the stelvio is more raw and its more unique whether as all range rovers basically look the same.
Absolutely true. There's like four or five different stages of Range Rover, and you can't really tell them apart. Nothing else on the road is like the Stelvio, however.
It's just different. I definitely understand why someone wouldn't like it. I just do.
Range Rover's here in the UK are driven by a certain sort of driver....appropriately, Velar sounds like another word for Wanker. Would deffo go for the Stelvio even though it looks like a fat Guilia.
Well, it kind of is a fat Giulia. And Rovers are driven by a certain kind of driver here as well. Same kind of driver that has an Escalade.
5:32 "I have a weakness for anything Italian" - Thank you
Looks to me that the alfa could also do stage 3 but you were told to stop embarassing the land rover :D
They stop because the stelvio can’t take that hill also remember the valar can easily go more places that alfa can never can or will go
I love the looks and performance of the Stelvio! Bravo Alfa!
THIS IS THE ONLY UA-cam VIDEO THAT SHOWS THE VELAR OFF ROAD WITH NO AIR SUSPENSION.
Thank you Andre
The Stelvio is simply better, cheaper, faster, prettier and if you want to do off-roads you don't buy a velar.
@Ethan Pae Tastes are tastes, for me it is beautiful. Long live Italy🇮🇹
Jeez, that Alfa Romeo really took off in the 0-60 run. Threw Nathan back. 😂
It's 5.4 seconds at sea level, a whole second faster than this 6.4 actually
Eugenio A. I know. That's one of the faster 0-60 tests TFL has done that I know of.
Zachary Martin the acting of surprise of the "racing" is always incredibly cringy
Alfa Romeo
-La Meccanica Delle Emozioni-🇮🇹
El Vega Insomma, auto per incompetenti
Mr995pippo in che senso?
Mr995pippo ma che commento è? Non ha senso.
Mr995pippo sappiamo tutti quali sono le auto da incompetenti, e non sono certo le alfa...
@@emmanuelperrina6105 quali sarebbero
The Stelvio isn't a happy car off road, still it's surprising she passed stage 1 and 2 without too many problems. The Velar on the other hand is better equipped for off road so makes sense her result.
If you were really going off road you’d have to choose the Velar I’d think. But then again you could get a great new Jeep for much less money too. Surprising the Stelvio did so well though. Kinda impressed actually
Chris Dooley remember that the stelvio much like the fiat 500x have jeep pedigree in them, and when it came to making good offroaders Fiat produced what is probably Europe's best small offroader, the fiat Panda 4x4
marco fava
Well said!!!
Italy has a solid history of all-wheel-drive vehicles: Fiat Campagnola, Alfa Romeo Matta, Lancia Delta Integrale, Lamborghini LM002, Fiat Panda, and one of the best military vehicles, the Iveco LMV
😁👍
Quix true but the thing is that when you spend that much money on an SUV you want it to do at least 2 of the 3 letters fairly to very well and you can compromise on the other, think all the Range Rover Sports, Porsche Cayenne's and Volvo XC90's you see around on the street and they'll spend 95% of their times onroad when they have just as much ability off-road. This is what I like about TFL cars they test their cars in all environments and especially the ones they have been designed to challenge and the ones they're less likely to meet but equally equipped to handle
@Chris Dooley
"Great new Jeep"? Go sit in a Velar, go back to your Jeep and you'll feel ashamed for thinking that way. Any Range Rover is much more luxurious than any Jeep.
marco fava - Jeep pedigree in the Alfas? Fiat 500X?? jesus christ what the hell are you talking about????
No-no, look: on one hand you have the 500X and the Renegade that share the same small FWD platform, on the other hand you have the Stelvio and the Giulia sharing a totally different RWD platform, with some Q4 versions, made from scratch and equpping the Alfas exclusively so far.
After the first drag race, they are talking to each other, both are looking right... 4:43... horrible editing mistake LOL
I have a stelvio in exactly the same color but red interior! Love it
Happy New Year guys! Can’t wait for more awesome content.
Coming from a viewer since 2012 :)
probably the very first Alfa ever up that road. For whatever that's worth. Probably the last Velar to go up that hill too now that I think about.
Did not expect the Alfa to do so good? Impressive :)
The Stelvio Ti sedan with same engine does 60 in 5.1 seconds; pretty damn quick for a 4-cylinder.
there's not stelvio sedan, the sedan is called giulia, and yes is very quick and also awesome driving
Alfa stelvio👍👍👍👍
Good watch. How about an F Pace and the Stelvio comparison?
Stelvio drives beatifully over snow!!!! I am in Syracuse, and snow is all we got!
hey this is andrew, it was great seeing you guys out there. the tahoe seems close to the velar.
Range rover from the back is so ugly and it's expensive...i love the Alfa Romeo Stelvio it's an amazing SUV
God. They’re both beautiful, but the Velar is gorgeous. The Alpha is made with the snowy Alpine ski trips in mind, which it is absolutely perfect for.
Alfa*
Alfa Romeo a vita❤😍
Got mine yesterday, bella 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
I own stelvio. It's an amazing machine! Best SUV I have ever drove
Why didn't you get the Velar V6 300hp diesel? Comparing them with 100hp difference is not fair!
Stelvio 2.2 T.diesel 210 CV AT8 Q4 Bus. 2.2L (2.143L), 154kW (210 HP) 154kW (210 HP) 6.6 sec. 0-100km/h.
Maybe it's bc the velar, with this engine, is already almost 25k pricier than the alfa.
They get what they get from the automakers.
They get whatever the manufacturers put out into the press fleet
Stelvio Quadrifoglio V6 510 HP, and costs less than the Velar V6 300 HP
Nathan Forza Italia!!
Maddog8148 berlusconiano
😂😂
My dad owns Stelvio and it performs really well on snow.
India 🇮🇳 vs Italy 🇮🇹
England Vs Italy .
111danish111 India, because Range Rover end Jaguar are Indian (Tata motors).
No its not just as Volvo is not Chinese . They are just wholly owned subsidiaries of Indian and Chinese companies respectively . Jaguar Land Rover will always be british . This comment is coming from an Indian .
Not indian ..made ..designed in uk
iVlogBuzz prick.
Real hosts with real takes, keep up the good work 👍👍
Great demo, guys. It's difficult to beat a Range Rover on off road courses. Well done.
Nice work guys, I like the compare and contrast off-road/on-road
You have a very good UA-cam channel. High-quality video content and professional hosts. You have long been time to arrange a race-racing on cars, as in the best years of Top Gear. It will be interesting! 😀👍
DavidTVBox ! I've seen much more professional vid from none profits like consumer reports
The worried look on Andre's face in Stage 3 was worth the watch.
Love this video! I have a LR crossover and looking to switch to either the Velar or Stelvio. Perfect presentation on and off road. Thank you!
Alfa is the best!
netsonna ye I have one
@@sebastiannylanders286 me too
That Alfa’s awesome!
Why didn’t you guys get a hold of a gas powered Velar to make it more of an even comparo?
Great review. I like both cars.
I have the same diesel engine in my F-pace, to get tbe fastest 0-60 time you need to shift between 3000 and 3500 RPM. Since all the torque is down low you nedd to shift well before reaching redline.
Alex, do you have an US version of F-pace? Can you get 0-60 time close to manufacter numbers(8.2)?
Yes I have the US version. The best time I got was 7.6 seconds with the way I described above (shifting under 3500 RPM). If I don't do any of that and just floor the gas then I will get around 8.0 to 8.2 seconds.
Alex how do you like the fpace? Any likes and dislikes. I'm concidering it.
It is a great car! I you want a fun to drive SUV then you will not be disappointed. The Turbo diesel is quick, has a good amount of power and gets excellent gas mileage, most of my driving is on the highway so I average between 38-40 MPG the best I ever got was 47 MPG. A full tank will get you about 600 miles before needing to refill again. If fuel economy is not very important to you then the supercharged V6 is the way to go. As far as the trim levels go I recommend the prestige, it has a good balance of features and price. If you want all the latest features and technology then get the portfolio, but it costs over $60,000. Either way it is a great fun to drive car. if you have any specific questions just let me know.
Alex 40 mpg highway? Nice!
I am from India even thou I love italian... Bravoooo
Nathan excited for testing the Stelvio in the snow = Donuts in an empty snow covered parking lot!
Savedbydave *g f
I love Stelvio. Not just because I've always loved Alfa Romeos (and have driven them over a decade) but also because I own Stelvio. It really is a great car.
29k so far on my alfa and rock solid so far! I LOVE my car
I'm baffled at all the people saying they prefer the Stelvio over the Velar stylewise, I really don't get it, the Velar is absolutely drop dead gorgeous while the Stelvio is just another generic mid size SUV
well done, guys. thank you!
599 views in 6 minutes.... wow
it seems uphill were u tested the cars!
To be honest,.. I didn't think the Alfa would made it pass the first stage.
First 😁 Excellent video!!
We are back
Does brake torquing really work?
Nathan would you say the f pace is the Best suv in the market right now
What if TFL made a video old vs. new! 01-06 Acura MDX vs. 07-13 Acura MDX drag race, 0-60, and off road! (Like if you want TFL to make this video!)
You guys were cruising towards Ned I think (8:30)
Why have you got the lower power bhp diesel car?
Hi Nathan, Andre, thanks for the video, much appreciated. Just to make sure you remember how lucky you guys are with the car prices in the USA. In the Netherlands the price of the RangeRover Velar with diesel engine is Euro 135,000 (US$ 161,000) for the first edition..... The Alfa is a lot cheaper, but still with the 4 wheel drive 280 Hp engine, it starts at Euro 62,500 (US$ 74,800). All of this because of the CO2 tax....
I would never off road with these SUV's. Nothing pertaining to there performance, these vehicles are more than capable of handling whatever nature throws at you, but they are so luxurious and beautiful that I wouldn't risk scratching the paint due to debris etc or getting them constantly dirty.
If you have the chance, could you take a Tesla Model X to Gold Mine Hill ? Just to compare.
Thank you and keep going !
The Stelvio is soft - seems more suited for the tarmac; the Velar seems like it''s made for both tarmac and trail.
Van Hammer in this segment of cars you don't want more than the ability of Alfa Romeo in Off road because it's a Luxury SUV ...if you want an SUV for off road you can buy a jeep wrangler in half price of range rover velar
@@thewhiteEagle the Jeep Wrangler ride is harsh and not even that luxury
I thought roman will come with maserati levante along with these two.....anyhow good content and good video . HNY guys.
Alfa Romeo Stelvio is the best !
Now when you get to test the Urus, take it off road.
I am sure the Alfa Romeo would have completed stage 3 with the right tyres
180 hp and 317 ft lbs for 75k? Never in a million years would I buy that
Please do the 2018 Outback. Please! I really want you guys to do it! I liked the video too
I'm going to call it before watching, even though I'm never right. the Stelvio gets stuck on stage 2, and I will still love it. the land rover makes it all the way up.
STELVIO LOVE IT!!!!!!
fair review
Two beautiful cars i would have either
The Alfa looks better to me. The Velar looks like an old person’s car for cruising near the golf course; Alfa more style and sport.
It's like you taking a mule to a season quinila race....no chance velar boy....that Italian machine is a beast......
These vehicles aren't even in the same class. The Stelvio quadrifoglio gets to 60 in 3.3 seconds making it the fastest suv. I'm glad you guys didn't put the best versions against each other.
Офигенный тест,спасибо )
You tested the shopping car engine on the Velar. Cant see anyone buying the car with this engine in it.
The V6 supercharged motor does 5.3sec to 62mph and 155mph..
I will like to see this review against the P380 Velar and then you tell me whose king on road
Oh come on! Stelvio up stage three! That’s among the only SUV I would buy, other than a Jeep!
i own a 2018 Velar R Dynamic which puts out 382 HP
180HP out of a diesel?
seems way behind
75k USD for 11.1sec
good luck highway merging..
It is more than adequate. Plus the diesel will be able to travel hundreds of miles before filling up.
Actually the Velar only does 2mpg better than the Stelvio on highway and it's tank is 4 litres (over a gallon) smaller - their range on a light cruise will be about the same. Except you'll have buckets more performance under your foot with the Alfa should you want it. 11.1s to 60 would be great for 1985.
lol stelvio quadrifoglio is the way to go
I love Range Rover but I don't like the Velair... I choose Stelvio😍
Alfaaaaaaaaaa onlyyyy
Love 159
There is something wrong with land rover - specs says it has 0-60mph in _8.4_ seconds (according to www.landroverusa.com/vehicles/range-rover-velar/velar/index.html). Probably you forgot to enable performance mode -- seems like you were driving in ECO mode which limits engine output.
ldenis2 usually at their elevation the times get a second higher, 9.4 Still, a mysterious 1.5 seconds slower. Unless diesels get much more impacted by air density than gasolines.
This is really strange. The engine is turbodiesel so the air density should be compensated a little bit. But 2.5 seconds slower is too much even for diesel.... Probably some air leaks in intake... At least with jaguar xf 3.0 diesel and 300 meters above sea level I can get the numbers specified by manufacter.
I found out articles saying that the diesel f-pace provided much less acceleration than declared too. It must be the tuning for the US emissions.
Its unfair,why isnt the velar equiped with the 2l petrol?
Get a Stelvio Quadrifoglio reviewed pls!!!!
I'm sorry, but why did you put a 180hp diesel up against a 280hp gasoline vehicle and expect a fair drag race?
Stelvio 🔝
An SUV that almost failed to pass stage 2, and that was not even 3, compared to Volvo C90 CC (which is a van), I wonder what the functionality of the Alfa Romeo Stelvio.
Have to admit the Alfa looks pretty good. The proportion from the Alfa looks like small hatchback which I like. The Velar has a traditional SUV look which I'm not a fan of. Plus the all Range Rovers look the same.
Are you sure about the power? the 280hp engine is fuel powered, the turbo-diesel has 210hp...
Now do a stelvio quadrafoglio vs a rover svr
thats not a comparable race. A range rover is made for offloading and luxury, while the alfa is made for sport