Sick PS5 - Can I FIX it?
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2023
- This is my first attempt on a PS5 repair. This one was purchased from eBay, will it ever work again? Let's find out.
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Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things. I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things, so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series. Many thanks, Vince. - Навчання та стиль
Sucks to get such a rough one for your first PS5 Vince! From my experience I'd say the issue was likely originally a bad capacitor on that rail. The circuit in question is a RAM power rail and unfortunately that is a common issue. The caps on that rail do fail pretty often, but it doesn't normally pop a fet.
One thing to check is if you look just to the right of that area there's a TLV IC (marked SBV on the chip itself). It's the same chip as the F7002 IC on the EDM-010 board. If you check around there it may have popped the fuse. I've found that happens quite often after those caps go bad. If you're missing your lower voltages (2.5v, 2v, 1.8v, 1.37v, 0.9v) it may be that the fuse is preventing the rest of the boot sequence. That said, that fat rail you were injecting voltage into is the 1.37v rail for RAM and if that's dead short it may be that the fet which died took out the RAM too. I've seen that a few times too 😞
Thanks Phil, I'll check again. I did check all the fuses at the time that I'd seen on the board but I may have missed some as there were quite a number of them. Nothing heated up on the FLIR cam which was a shame as I was hoping to find a shorted cap. A good one for spares though as I have quite a few power rails working and no water damage which is nice so lots of parts to harvest. Cheers for the info 👍
@Mymatevince yeah absolutely perfect for spares, and good practice either way too. Hoping to see more. PS5s are interesting and fun to work on when you get to know them. I'd say they're my favourite console to work on right now 🤫don't tell anyone I said that lol
@@TheCod3r Your leading the way on them Phil. It must be nice to fully get to grips with one board and start to know it inside out. Almost know the fault before it has been taken apart 👍
@@TheCod3r like you know what you are talking about Phil you have only worked on about 500 of them 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, Thanks for the video Vince
@Mymatevince I do try 🤣 in all seriousness they're not too difficult once you know what rails you're supposed to get and what the common faults are lol. I dream PS5 fuse numbers 🤣
Don't give up, failures are just a part of repair. You go beyond and fix things I would toss (and I have been a board level tech for 40 years). Always love watching your methodology for sorting out the problems.
Its good to see videos that are not always a fix. It makes people realise that not every thing is fixable. You put a lot of effort into this one that people can still learn from watching your fault finding.👍
Thank you Mike 👍
One of the things about Vince i fell in love with is that he is exploring. He's not sure what to expect, he's not perfectly knowing the device and 100 ways how to fix it.
It's a journey and he's taking us with him.
Whatever "repair shop" that PS5 was brought to should definitely be avoided
And what happened to those usb ports? :(
It looks like they were purposely snapped. How could that happen through use or impact damage, really weird!
That was expensive! Don’t you think?
I think the PS5 was dropped. It caused something to bend out of shape. Then cause that nice little charred hole that Vince was introduced to. Once they took it apart and saw that hole they just quoted them for a price that would either turn them away or have them attempt to fix it.
It should be blown to the moon.
I always root for you Vince and in my experience you can not win them all. Great work as always and thanks for the video.
Nice one Travis 😎
All I ever see on social media are broken PS5s. It's incredible how many of them there are.
That went with a bang. Impressive effort to fix it.
Thanks Mark 👍
great effort, i was truly rooting for you when you attempted the layer repair. great vid as usual
Amazing video Vince! Many many fixers would not even try to fix this kind of damage. Too bad it still does not work but moment it turned on gave really amazing vibes.
I saw this on Ebay and was going to buy it but when I saw "no cables, no controller, nothing" I thought no way, massive red flag......unlucky buddy, hope you have more success on the next one
Thanks Jamie, I feel better knowing that I saved someone else from this heap of.... 😂👍 I still want to know what happened to the USB ports????
You are a brave man, Vince. I wouldn't have the balls to even touch that device with its liquid metal
The state of that thing! From the scratches around the usb ports you can infer that the console was really roughly treated by it’s owner. I can’t imagine treating an expensive electrical device so carelessly. Mad. A great effort anyway Vince, and I hope we can see more PS5 videos in the future :)
Love a good try to fix video. Lovely to see a PS5 for the first time too featured on your channel.
Thank you CLC, hope you're keeping well 👍
@@Mymatevince I’m doing great thanks. Getting over a cold though, but it’s slowly going. Hope life is going good for you too.
Nice video and a valiant attempt! Would love to see more ps5 videos!
Ahhhh Vince i'm gutted for ya. Great video all the same i was rooting for a result in the end
Great video on the ps5. Man you did great. As well, brave to use your personal ps5 to attempt to fix the broken one. Found you from tonics fix about 6 months to a year ago. Great videos!! Great work 👍🏾👍🏾
You are amazing person Thank you for taking time out to show us i love all your video that you make You and your family stay safe Out there God bless you
Thank you Barbara, you too 🙏
When you stripped it it, the pcb had a distinctly reworked look, that mosfet must have got very very hot to discolour the PCB. Well done TheCod3r for advising.
The voice overs are not a problem Vince! Great video 👍
Repair shop probably swapped out the good usb ports for some faulty ones they had.
Great Video Vince 👍 You can't win them all. I can see you put a lot of work into that, and a real shame it didn't pay off. Perhaps when the mosfet shorted it sent a higher voltage elsewhere and blew whatever it's connected to. I've not worked on a PS5 myself, a bit too pricey to take a chance on at the moment. Still a great video and keep up the fantastic work!
There's quite a few people down here condemning the repair shop. I think that this PS5 was dropped was caused something inside it to flex and greet Vince with that crater that he was ever so lucky to stumble upon. Once the repair shop open the console and saw that they pretty much just quoted them a price that would either turn them away or have them attempt to fix it. Cuz let's face it. Without schematics there's not much anybody can do about that besides Sony themselves
Back in the early 70s I remember going to the Audio fair at the Russell Hotel in London and drooling over the Quad gear on show knowing full well they would always be beyond my means, Quad was always considered to be at the pinnacle of the Hi Fi world. Their Electrostatic speakers were a bold concept.
For those of you who love retro repairs, and can't get enough of it, I would like to recommend the channel Retro Krazy. His content is very high quality but he only has around 400 subscribers. Vince used to do a segment where he would share videos from fellow tinkerers on UA-cam. I hope he brings that back.
Damn I thought it would work but man you are the most creative man I know and you have alot of kinds of glew. I was super interested the whole video :)
Fair play for continuing on with a clearly banjaxed PS5, the journey was good even if the end destination was disappointing.
Oh man, even when you are hurt, you do make fun of yourself. RESPECT!
That's truly the "Rattle of death". LOVE it, great video!
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good chanel i have refurbed consoles for years but it interesting to see the diagnostic side done so well
Those usbs were definitely weird, don't think I could damage a usb port like that if I tried!
Shame you didn't get a fix on this one, I really do admire your determination though where others would normally give up. You watch other UA-camrs who fail on things in their videos and it's so frustrating because you can tell they gave up far too easily without trying some very basic troubleshooting steps. I can rest easy though knowing that you are very thorough! And if there's something you can't fix then it truly must be broken. Keep up the good work Vince! You'll get a fix on one of these at some point for sure!
Keep the chin up Vince, you have a heart like a lion to take on a nightmare of a job like that. Keep up the great work. Mick 👌👏🍻
No problem with the voice overs, great video as always.
Great attempt, even risking a working board. Enjoyed the video and keep it up. you did great IMHO
That was very interesting to watch! I thoroughly enjoyed this video.
Excellent, thanks for watching it 👍👍👍
@@Mymatevince don't think I've missed an episode since I found the channel a couple of years back. 😄
@@hadesmcc I need more André Coelho's in my life😂
man thats such a dad thumbnail rofl - love it
Sucks that it didnt work out - atleast spare parts right vinny
Hahaha, it's so good, it is my favourite thumbnail to date!!!!
Your videos are always excellent, Vince. You win some and you lose some, but you always give it your all...and that's what life's all about, isn't it. Thanks for making these videos for us!
And thank you for watching them 👍👍👍
Vince has had the expericance of undoing 50 million screws hard luck on this one
😂 I have a sore wrist now as well as a sore finger! 😂👍
@@Mymatevince haha dam its not your luck
Hi Vince, it looks like this is an APU problem. I had the same thing but with a laptop that turned on and off continuously because the video chip was no longer good due to reballing, but there is some life in it. What is striking is that the fuses are not broken, perhaps due to the quick on / off. In the end, it can also be a (small) short circuit after you turning on the PS5, so further down the board. Thanks for the video, and your videos are always a succes btw!
Wow, three weeks went by quick! No bandage! *joke.* I wish you a speedy recovery, Vince!
😂 Cheers M1 👍
To answer your question at the end about the USB ports. To Damage anything on the board you would have to dump 12 volts into a data pin. There is failsafes on any modern device that will turn the port off, permanently if needed, if there's ever a short on the USB port. It's all handled in the USB controller on the board.
That was an incredible circuit board surgery, my hat off to you, sorry you couldn't get it to work.
I like to follow along with Vince's diagnostic, so I don't read the comment until the end and that is hard for me. Keep it going.
By far the best thumbnail I ever seen.
Thanks Jeff 👍👍👍
Don’t give up Vince you can do it 😊 well done for trying anyway mate
I too think the cap went and avalanched from there
Yeah, I think it was doomed from the start, cheers for watching it Gary 👍👍
@@Mymatevince watch all the time bud
Vince you can dry solder mask quickly by placing uv light+hot air it will take 3 seconds to cure
most excellent video dude. Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.
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My money is on the mangeld usb ports. I think that is the root of this defect.
TOP video. this is how we learn
And remember: don`t buy ebay consoles without cable en controlers, dead giveaway for non honest defects
Its Never a waste of time watching your videos Vince. Either ending its still good viewing chap.
Ooo broken PS5. This video should take off.
From my experience. If multimeter give bad reading - time to change 9V battery.
I will try that, I think it has been in there 2 years and it does a lot of continuity beeping!!!
You are a king!
Nice effort and great pcb repair work Vince. Shame you didn't get it fixed but it was in very rough shape to begin with. Mashed ribbons, chewed wires, mangled usb ports and an elusive short on a multillayer board. A nightmare job. TronixFix does a lot of consoles, and he doesn't get a fix every time. Perhaps your next PS5 will be a winner. :)
Thanks Dash 👍👍
Another great video, shame it was to far gone before you even started, Vince any chance of doing a video on the equipment you use, extractor, hot air station, even flux etc as I think it would be useful and maybe something to make while you are on the mend ?
Yes, I really need to do that, in fact I have been meaning to do it since the 500k subscriber video!!!!!!
Good try! I hope you aren't too turned away from repairing consoles though, those are the videos I try to never miss
Annoyingly, I watched this last night when in bed. Fell asleep, missed the outcome and restarted the video just now. Unfortunately it didn't rewind initially and was just at the point where Vince said "revisit". Created my own spoiler.
Can 't believe repair shop left metal part lying about inside. I think it was dropped and the big that came off shorter the capacitors. State of the cables also tells a story. Great video very intersting, even though we never got to hear you shouting YES!
Many years ago I had an IBM PS/2, which had all been designed to use proprietary IBM parts. They sold them at cost to businesses and then jacked up all their parts and repair prices to make their profit. I had a model 25, and one day when I went to slide a floppy disc in, it snapped the drive head off. I called IBM and they told me it was a known design flaw, that the drives had been designed to fit vertically, but had been installed horizontally on the model 25s; as a result, the drive head hung lower than spec and over time it would eventually catch and snap off.
The system was two generations obsolete at the time, so I asked if I could get the pin-out on the floppy drive so I could make an adaptor and use a generic drive, and the tech was apologetic but said he wasn't allowed. The generic drive was $15, the proprietary IBM drive was $200. I hired an independent tech to reverse engineer the pin-out and make me an adaptor (cost me $20), and he said all they did was move the power pin from one side to the other; it had been specifically designed so that it would fry any generic component you tried to plug into it. So those mangled USBs could very easily have fried almost anything depending where the power was travelling.
You gave it a right good going over but again caught out by a very poor decription of real damage to the console again great vids and the car is coming on very well for the knowledge of mechanics you have very different to bt but I think you are a true inspiration for others to have a go at smaller jobs for themselves GREAT WORK again I think you would make a great speaker to people with learning difficulties and mental health issues TOPMAN VINCE .
I could literally fall asleep while watching your videos great for education and entertainment i also like to play a game while watching trying to guess what components failed 🤣
Unlucky with that one Vince, never mind better luck next time.
Great thumbnail though... 😂👍🏻
Thanks DJ, it's my favourite thumbnail to date 😂
Good job sir. Too bad you could not find the problem. Thanks for the inside look on the inside of a PS5.
I can't understand why the original owner didn't just get the console traded for a new one, unless the warranty time has passed of course.
Or they trashed the USBs and knew they wouldn't get a new one under warranty.
I also can't see a repair shop breaking all those wires, they surely would put it back together gently.
Nice try though I'm still happily learning from this.
"only issue is with the board" yeah, before the shop wrecked the USB ports, and all those cables, maybe.
GO MY MATE!
Oh yeah....great video 👌
now always the electronics have a fix, besides this kind of videos help us a lot to face this kind of issues, i had something similar for a ps4 back in time and was also fully shorted, i injected voltage and could get the faulty component , but when i changed it, still didn't work, i still have that motherboard as donor board.
Most people would flee just by looking at that mess, i say that's a Brave repair 👍
Your thumbnail gets a 10/10.
ahhhhnn...blue mat and blue shirt...very soothing on the eyes. 🤣🤣
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It's heartbreaking to buy something for so much and it be unfixable, but at least you have a parts PS5 but an expensive one though. Hopefully the youtube fees will cover most of the price of the PS5. But again it's very sad to find such bad damage. I have to say though how absolutely brilliant these playstation designers are and how good are the circuit board builders to make a 4 or 5 layer board. I enjoyed this video as much as all your videos Vince, thank you for a wonderfully entertaining and knowledgeable video.
Maybe the Repair Shop gawe you their "best of PS5" collection? Not that those things don´t happen.......
man, you are a pro
Finally You've bought good hot air station Vince:).
He didn’t even try giving it some paracetamol and a hot lemon tea 🍋 ☕️
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sometimes i think "mhmm thats kinda boring and its close to 1 hour long, na i may just watch the start and skip some" and then what every secound of it 😂
Hahaha, I do know what you mean. It is hard to commit to a 1 hour long video but on some videos once committed the time just flies by 👍👍
Come on Vince you’re not a quitter do a part 2 with fitting a new digital motherboard
Vince, before I get into the video, what the f*** is that tracksuit? You look like an extra from Logan’s Run! 😂
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"So does doors haha" brilliant, gottem.
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It was an ambitious endeavor.
Vince should wear a yellow shirt on blue mat days and vice versa - just to mess with us :)
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when doing all this PCB digging i recomend just tearing away free copper and using wires
Wow the thumbnail from this tho omg.
Frustrating, but well done for sticking with it.
You did a good job repairing the pcb-layers though. Paul S. wouldn't have done better.
Indeed, my favorite part of the video 👍
Thanks Ingo! Is that Paul from the Louis Rossmann group?
@@Mymatevince Yes, but he didn't made the move with him to Texas. So former employee, his former #1 employee.
@@ingog.8424 👍👍
I've gotten a ps3 a couple of years back from a friend as a gift, he said it was broken, and it did the exact same thing as this ps5! You plug it in, it would turn on for a second with a fan spin and than complete off, i had to push the power button twice to get it do the fault again. I asked him what happened to the ps3, and he said it fell over while he was cleaning. So after years and years, i still don't know what is wrong with it, there are no shorts, there is nothing to see on the board, if i didn't know it made a big smack, i couldn't tell what happened to it. It's crazy, it's the only device i couldn't repair. And now seeing this behavior of your ps, i wonder if this ps fell over as well, and that is why the ports are busted and something shorted out!
Wow you have the patience of a Saint. I would have lost it half way through. If I am guessing at the root cause, my bet is on that the PS5 took a spill. Not enough to damage the case but sufficient to tank the USB cables clear out. That shorted the USB power. Potentially also momentarily pushing that shield against a trace an kaboom. Just SWAG.
That thumbnail, hilarious.
That Mosfet go boom
Good attempt, can't win them all. Pure guesswork on my part but the mosfet may have blown due to faulty caps or blew by itself but it appears that the caps were not refitted (would be worth comparing that area with the part working board) and that is asking for trouble. The shorted USB ports may have caused other damage and may be worth removing them to see if anything changes on the power rails. As you say, drawing 5A with no apparent heat spots may point to additional layer issues (as nothing appeared to be getting hot).
🤣🤣🤣🤣 got me
Although you sunk a lot of time into this and it's not repaired, I suppose the experience gained is worth it. Hopefully if you do more in the future you'll have better success.
Thanks Shawn, if I can get another one soon then hopefully the knowledge will stay in my head. This one will have plenty of good spares on it as so many power rails are working 👍
Hey vince, could i send something for a try to fix or is that something only the mmv massive can do?
I have never understood the amount of damage that some of these consoles get, I have game consoles that are over 30 years old that still work to this day, that includes using them as a kid and moving them around from house to house and I’m not even the most careful person in the world.
“Repair shop” = my mate the electrical engineer 😂
Even though it wasnt fixed the video was very interesting.
Do you have a video on how to fix blown HDMI ports on TV my mate Vince?
For me the main cause of failure looks like severe overheating, if you look around the board you can clearly see that the whole PCB have darkened around the RAM and GPU which is telling the board been running stupidly hot for extended time as well. This will naturally bake the components and lead to their failure. you tool and friend in this type of troubleshooting would be to get a milliohm meter and start to look where the short is the lowest value to figure out where it origins from. I would not exclude more mosfets being shot here but there could be more layers short too as you suspect. either you measure with milliohms or put enough amps slowly rising until something eventually get hot. I mean the board is gone so you might as well just experiment with it right ☺
Thanks for the info and tips 👍
@@Mymatevince anytime my man! Keep up the good work. I enjoy watching your work. You have learned a lot since I first came to your channel :)
I think... Another great trying to fix video. And that's what we are here for.
Thank you Nandi 😎
You could drill right through so you can see the layers are separate. But it usually means bodge wires and access to circuit diagram. Or it's just totaled.
That repair shop sure didn't care about the console when the customer didn't wanted it to be fixed, an honest one would have put it back together the way it was.
Sure it still wouldn't have worked, but the way it was put back together it could have caused more damaged. In fact, the damage on the WiFi and Bluetooth cables is probably due to it not being inserted in their cable guide/channel.
Also, I think liquid metal is overrated. Sure it's better at cooling, but it's also great at destroying everything in a device if it somehow spills out.