1993 Johnson Evinrude 40 HP - Power Tilt Trim Reseal
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2019
- 1989-2005 40/48/50 Seal Kit: ebay.to/2lMjL2D
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Just completed the same job down here in South africa, pins would not come out at all so all i did was release the lock screw and lifted the motor all the way up and supported it in place. Gave the gland nut a few gentle taps with the hammer to free up the corrosion. Loosened the gland nut and lifted the motor all the way over and the whole shaft popped out. Easiest way in my book to get to the seals. Loosened off the nut and then held the shaft parallel to the ground and slowly slid the first piston off. CAREFUL, have a large plastic container under as the springs and steel balls can easily be lost here. Slide off the gland nut and hook out the seal and replace with a new one. Johnson parts are very hard to get here so I went over to my Hydraulic man and we matched the size perfectly. Put it all back together again, bled the oil and up and down the motor went, no fuss. 2 hour job tops. Don't fuss with the pins if you don't have to. :)
Thats probably a good way to do it.
I've never fooled with anything hydraulic and watching your video and going step by step as you went, pausing the video, hitting resume....it was a piece of cake. I appreciate you making this video and making it easy to follow along step by step! 😊
I pulled the water pump out of my 48SPl this morning and my tilt wouldn't raise the motor without some help. It has been a long while since I even had a chance to use it. Looks like I'll be using this video to repair my hydralics. Thanks for sharing it.
The trim on my 2000 50hp Johnson stoped working. Without your video I wouldn’t have had a chance. Now I’m back on the water ! It’s amazing to watch an experienced mechanic. Thanks for sharing!
I can't thank you enough for doing these videos. I have a 92 Johnson and have followed your videos on multiple occasions to successfully complete a project I wouldn't normally attempt. You've probably saved me a thousand dollars in labor costs not to mention improving my repair skills, knowledge and confidence.
Its always nice to see something work after you've fixed and installed it! Lol
Well done, thanks for your very professional video, its very helpful for my tilt, trim experience.
Hey just wanted to thank you for this video - I've just rebuilt my trim & tilt unit using your video as a guide.. I'm in Sydney Australia where the parts are astronomically high but I saved a bucket load doing it myself, so thanks so much. Must say without a doubt getting the unit off the motor was the most challenging experience I've had - hours upon hours trying to get out the top and bottom pins - All done and I'm pretty proud of myself.. Thanks again.
Glad I found this video, I have the same job to do with the same solid manual release valve stuck solid.
Most informative video yet even was impressed by the comment about the filter in the motor part being different 👍
Hello,
I inherited my dads 89 TX 17 with the 50 hp Evinrude and it has the same failures.
Now i can rebuild it myself!
Thanks brother 🇺🇸 🤙
I always use an impact driver for my old outboard. It breaks screws free without damage or breaking them and is tons faster with less work
Thank you for your time and effort for doing this video I think it will help me with my own power trim rebuild
Thanks for your helpful video, tilt trim working great again👌
This is a really great video. I learned a few things. Thank you for spending the time to make these videos. I'll be checking out your other content!
Thanks, exactly the information I needed, great video.
Hi Brandon, Wow in comparison to my 96 merc 60hp tilt trim yours looked like a pain. Although I like the lower pin setup better than mine that I gave up on trying to remove. I was afraid I was going to break parts. You will see on my video that my goal was just to replace the cylinder Orings anyway. I got my Orings from a locale hydraulic shop. Orings sizes are generic for hydraulics. I just took my old ones with me and the shop matched them up for me. They just gave them to me for free. If the motor Orings start leaking someday I'll have to deal with getting that lower pin out. Oh my pressure relief valve is plastic, tapered with 3 orings. To remove it has a c clip too but sure it will be cake to remove
Thanks a lot for this wunderfull Video, it helps me to fix my Powertrimm.👍👍👍
very nice job well done
nice timing, I just rebuilt the power trim on my 2000 50hp johnson. Its looks very similar except the manual release is facing the outboard, not the side.
Good news is that mine now works perfectly.
Thank you for the video Brandon. I have a 94 and getting ready to do the same thing. Could you explain the removal of the threaded top cylinder shaft a little? I noticed you used a screw (10/25?) and it spun right out? I have mine soaking with blaster and seals arrive tomorrow. Thank you! Subscribed!
great video, step by step.
Hi Brandon. Enjoy your videos. I have a question on the tilt trim actuator. The details on the piston assembly are not clear. I know the assembly has springs and pins, but I guess the one I acquired is missing a pin. However, the few pictures I can find on the internet only show 5 pins and 6 springs. Am I missing something? My actuator has no strength. It will extend without a load but I can push it down with a little effort. If you have a video on this or could help, that would be great. Keep up the good work!!
Thanks this video help me a lot
Did you get a good look at those Springs and BB valves that are on that piston? Mine had a piece of plastic in one of those check valve holes. I freaking lost it. I'm just wondering if that's why one of the Springs appeared shorter on yours. I can't find information on it. For all I know someone threw it in there to replace the BB
Thank you for this video. I am about to rebuild my 2000 model Johnson 50 and I know the trim unit looks slightly different. Should it be pretty much the same process as the one you have here?
great video Brandon!! The 90 hp Evinrude trim works. The only problem is it won't trim up when needed going across the lake. Stopped in the water works. give it throttle it drop down. fluid full. could it be the up check vavle or the down check valve?
Hey Brandon, Happened upon your channel in my search for working on my 1989 88HP SPL Johnson OB. I'm wanting to add a power trim unit to it as it doesn't have it. Have you ever done this or have any info on it? I looked for an email to contact you vs on your YT channel. Thnx for any info or help
I recently rebuild my 2000 Johnson 50, and it works fine going down, barely budges going up. In video you added fluid before putting top back on, local marina told me to only add in fill hole. Could this be my problem?
Brandon thanks for the helpful videos!! I have a 1993 40hp Johnson Tracker 40hp with the lift assist Ram. Is it possible to upgrade to the hydraulic trim?
I rebuilt my T and T on a 2000 Johnson 50hp. worked great for awhile but now won't stay in the up position and always wants to drift back down. Is it my UP check valve or Down check that's gone kaput?
Just picked up a little whaler with the same motor and unfortunately very similar problems you are now in my saved to watch later system. So thanks. I am curious where you found that right angled pick with the aluminium body and magnetic in the handle. Very nice.
Hello! excellent video!
query: I have a new mercury 60 hp. The power trim goes up and down, the problem I have is that if it goes up to the end of the stroke then it doesn't go down. What could it be?
How did you get the top shaft screw out I have shearer 2 bolts and still can get out after soaking in pb blaster and wd-40 is there a special tool?
What is the tool you used on the slide hammer to pull out the shaft?
Very good. Ty
This is a really great video. I have a question, Brandon, doesn't my outboard get up if I hit something underwater?
if it has power trim and tilt, yes. Ive hit lots of things, and its never popped up. I think it has to be a pretty significant hit.
otherwise, it depends on the year/hp
hello Brandon would you have the reference of the tool to remove the axis which passes in the head of the cylinder which retains the motor that is to say the puller with inertia because my axis is blocked it must be seized I am French and I can not find this tool in France thank you have a good day cordially
Will these tilt trim motors bleed air out of the top of the cylinder cap or is that a sign that I may have damaged the cap piston seals? I dont see any visual signs of damage to the piston at all but just wandering if this could be a sign of something wrong with it too. Great video btw very helpful. Thanks!
Wondering the same
First off
Thanks for the videos ❤
Since I had to replace the tilt/trim Motor on my 1992 50hp Johnston
I figured I’d reseal it
(I was not able to to remove the 2 plugs #16’s on either side of the piston housing)
with out destroying them so I left them
I added the fluid like you did
I Powered it up
and it worked fine up and down up and down 😅
***Except for air and fluid leaking out of the top of the piston arm at the wiper or scrapper ring?
It was difficult to remove the cap off the end of the piston arm like it was hitting a lip or something and then
Difficult again putting the end cap back on.
During assembly I was able to insert the 2 new rings inside the cap and the scrapper ring without much trouble.
I’m thinking it’s either over filled?or I damaged a ring pushing it on the piston?
Any ideas🤔
✌🏼❤️🔥
We need a video on causes of fluid leaks and what over pressure valves do. I'm doing mine for the 3rd time now because in the down mode fluid leaks out the rod seal and down the unit. Guys need to know what may cause that with a newly rebuilt unit. Our half ass rebuilt unit. Those check values get very dirty and fail to open or close. Filter needs cleaned too. Total disassembly is required and a through cleaning of every single part. They may contain contaminants you cant see.
Thanks for the info, but I'm a little confused on the spanner wrench Where you used aluminum tape to get the part off to get to the end cap was that 2 or 3 holes your in?
Thanks and great video
his perticular spanner wrench was a 2 hole.
I'm having an issue with the piston assembly. How many check balls, springs, and rods are there. I have 6 springs, 5 balls, 5 push rods, and 1 small orange colored piece. Should I have 6 push rods?
Is the tilt unit strong enough to hold the engine up under full power to act like a trim unit or not? Just trying to figure out if it's worth me repairing my tilt or just raise the base of my tilt unit higher to get the cavitation plate even with the angle of the boat bottom.
Yes, it will.
the fist 15% or so is considered the trim the remainder is the tilt.
It was designed to be used as such.
@@BrandonsGarage Thank you Sir. That gives me some ideas. Have a great night and thanks again!
I paid $50 for my seal kit on Ebay. Too much! I'm a retired aircraft mechanic and what we used to remove and install orings and seals was home made tools made of brass brazing wire. We would flatten one end, make a spoon shaped end so as not to tear or nick a packing. Good idea hear.
They are some for 15.65
I have a new to me engine with the same hydrolics. My trim won’t go up and the relief valve only turns about a quarter turn counter clockwise. Anyway to get the motor up so I can change the seals? It seems locked in the down position.
What was on the end of the slide hammer that you screwed into the side of the cylinder mount
Hey what bit did you use to get the pin out to free the hydraulic arm?
I had to drill and cut mine out - took me hours but all done now
Let me ask you this and see what you think. I watched your video and I only resealed the piston and the top cap as fluid was just running out’ve the top cap seal. My t/t might be alittle newer than yours as it has the fill hole on the from and release valve on the side. Other than that it’s the exact same. I just can’t get the damn thing to bleed. I can help it up so far til it builds pressure but won’t hold up and just falls back down. I did also change the o ring on the release valve since it was easy to get to. At one point it would go up about 1/2in and stop and a minute later the same thing. But now it won’t go up or hold what so ever.
Yeah, I've tried that too (replacing only the cap) and expirenced the same situation you're describing.
Probably gotta pop put the large flat-head plugs and replace those o-rings.
What is that slide hammer you used? Is it threaded?
excellent instructional video. I have the exact same model and replaced the seals. The hydraulic cylinder will extend/retract with no load, but it will not lift the motor now. What did I do wrong?
Low on fluid?
@@BrandonsGarage I don't think so but I will double check
I’m having the exact same problem. Let me know if you figure something out
@@wizard1004 we sent the trim unit to a shop in FL to be rebuilt. $500 and a 2 year warranty. We should get it back next week.
What size thread is that upper pin? Need to know so I can use a slide hammer to pull the upper pin out and free the hydraulic shaft.
5 16
I cannot get the top pin out did the slide hammer work
Do you know what the replacement part is for this entire unit?
Is this the 1st one you've done?
If the power titl/trim dies, can you manually lift the motor up?
Yo para puntualizar, hubiera pintado el motor del trim que estaba oxidado...por lo demás buen trabajo 👍👍
I wish you had a video of the wiring harness.
I do!
ua-cam.com/video/PEJ5-173fAA/v-deo.html
Hello I watched your video,very helpful I replaced the cylinder end cap took it apart and put everything back but now the cylinder won't go up or down also made sure the pressure relief valve was closed,any tips would be great thanks
more fluid?
@@BrandonsGarage I did till the fluid was coming out the fill hole but the piston doesn't go up or down,as was watching the video I noticed that you put the spheres inside the springs { after installing the seal pack } while mine had springs t-shaped pin on top of the springs and spheres on top
How many spheres did you have on your seal pack?
@@gjergjidano5478 I’m having the exact same problem and mine sounds like yours with the check balls ontop of a pin. Did you find a solution?
I'm struggling to complete Trim tilt wiring. Older Johnson 115. 3 wires (blue,blk,grn) 2 black wires joined. Looks like I'm missing some relay box with a wire harness. There is a 5 pin plug coming from throttle tab. How can I get this relay/solenoid box kit? Is possible to make it? I want easy and fast! This is last step until I launch this project. Thanks for any help.
Your problem is its a 3-wire motor.
All boxes/dual relay setup is for a 2 wire motor.
youre going to need a relay or a solenoid.
Dual relays if you want to use the switch built into your controller.
@@BrandonsGarage it works if I jump with battery or juice off starter. I want to use existing controller tab. Where is it supposed to bolt down? Should I make from scratch or buy used off ebay or local motor bone yard?
Just a question do you have to open release valve to open top cap ? I’m just having issues with release valve
Sure do, even then it's a pain in the butt to slide out.
Hello, I have a problem that the midle piston does not move up, any idea what can this be? Could this be related with those o-rings that you swap near the motor? What was your original problem with that trim? Thank you! ;)
This usint only has one piston.
But yes, chances are your o-rings are bad
@@BrandonsGarage I have one trim for a evinrude 75hp. It has 1 small piston on each side that made the navigation position and one in the middle, those 2 are working but the bigger one does not react when it has to move up. Only without load and with the purge open. Which o-rings do you refer? Those near the motor? I've taken this to some guys to repair but no one knows how to repair it. :/ can you give a little hand here? :D
We're did you find your parts I'm looking and can not find a rebuild kit for my 1994 johnson tilt.
everythingoutboards.com/brp/tilttrim/
Thank you for the video
My pump is not working either
hello, what is the serial # on that trim, thanks
How do I go about finding a tilt and trim to add to my motor? I’ve got a 1990 Johnson 40
Ebay is your only real option.
You can join forums and groups. People always have them for sale, but eBay has a great buyer protection program; which I really enjoy the comfort of having.
Hi, how do you get the top pin out? What tool was that?
That's a slide wrench. Top pin is threaded on inside . Wrench screws in and a weight is slid to pull the pin. My 2000 50hp has a keeper on the back of the pin that has to be removed prior to pulling top pin.
Good job 👏 👍 👌 🙌 😅😅😅
On you piston assembly Those little b b's that are inside of it do you happen to know the dimension of them
Do you have a video on running the wiring I just bought oue and don't know where the wires go coming from the relays there is 3 red wires and I know they go on the wire rail but don't know the placement
What year / HP?
This video may help: ua-cam.com/video/PEJ5-173fAA/v-deo.html
@@BrandonsGarage 1998 johnson spl 50hp
I’m in desperate need of a new Remote Control Box for my 93’ 40HP EVINRUDE
Can you please guide me in the right direction??
What did you use to get the top pin out?
Yeah what did you use
Slide hammer.
The ends of the pin are tapped. You chuck the proper size bolt into your slide hammer & thread it into the pin.
The lower shaft on mine was difficult to get out. I used an air hammer. One of the tools that came with the hammer is a simple round punch and is just under ½" diameter. Perfect to drive out the pivot shaft.
Haven't seen you clean any parts. They must be dirt and dust free. No mention of what type of cleaning fluid or shop towels. Must be lent free also. Micro fiber is best.
Haven't seen any videos yet on how to drain the fluid before disassembly. Not even in a manual. It gets very messy.
I think you just keep it in a pan, and have at it.
You failed to show how to break loose the gland nut! At minute 27, you said it broke loose earlier so it shouldn't be too bad. How do I loosen it? My spanner wrench and arm muscle isn't enough to break loose mine.
It was a minute into the video.
If only the bolts always came out that easily.
Where you located? I'll pay you to rebuild mine
does this end cap tool is the same for a 115HP 1980??
everythingoutboards.com/brp/tools/324958.html
Other link is the trim pistons, this is the tilt end cap:
everythingoutboards.com/brp/tools/326485.html
@@BrandonsGarage thanks a lot for the reference!
Me haría falta el tornillo por donde se carga el hidráulico, no tengo manera de conseguirlo
Where can I get manual
Step one should be to throw that speed wrench in the trash
Man I'm getting ready to do this job with a crappy diagram with just numbers on it and no manual. I wish you had better close ups of the orings and seals! Very dark and hard to see!
Did you get it from kit king usa. My top wiper doesn't fit at all
Yea his videos are hard to see and he skips some important parts. Plus his ads pop up when you're trying to rewind everything. It's a terrible video. I've wasted more time trying to watch it. If rather not have came across it
Когда ты его заведешь?)
The number of ads in this video is utterly ridiculous
Good video, little rough on skill level , like using chute tips on oring grooves, one example
Thats how I roll.
Mine keeps on bleeding down after replacing all the sales with the checkball on the filter valves 0335171 - Valve Seat Cause that problem if the ball slips through the plastic
Si può tradurre in italiano
I would have been a little more apprehensive without a manual. Mine describes how it operates with a troubleshooting chart.
The unit looks very dirty and you dont seem to care about it. They should be cleaned before you disassemble it. Never paint anything until the unit is clean and reassembled. Tape up the rod too.
Hey man howd u disconnect electical
I cut mine and resoldered then applied heatshrink
Did all this to mine and the top seal still leaks. Lasted a few months. I have the same unit and you have to pull the bottom bolt and slide it out to add fluid. Stupid design.
Cant even get to the manual release valve.
Imagine being out on the water, the unit fails, and you need to remove the lower half to get to the screw/valve to get it down. Dumb.
On a side note, its also one of the most valuable PT&T units.
I agree, this design is funky. For the price of these units it's crazy over complicated.
I like the video,but you went a little too fast. I'm not sure about the ball Barron's.
You need to invest in a impact driver.
Can someone help me with that top pin removal.
Trying to get same question answered
Mike Hull it is a straight pin so had to knock it out. Was very tight so used penetrating lube and made a puller to give some help using the thread in one end. Then knocked it out with a punch. Had to notch the cast out to get a straight hit and even heated the alloy.
I just got mine. It had a strange cotter pin that was difficult to reach as well. Barely visible
Mike Hull well done
@@rodneywilliams624 what size thread is in that upper pin? Wanting to use a slide hammer but don't know what size thread the inside of that upper pin is.
Would you sell me a power trim tilt of this model. In desperate. Gr from Holland
silent Bob
I think they make those out of the crappiest plastic just to screw with us.
si puo,' tradurre in Italiano grazie
Why so many ads?
Is there? I see none.
However, the video is almost an hour long; as my settings are to allow youtube to place ads at will, they probably think you're a compulsive on-line spender and fill it up quite well.
@@BrandonsGarage haha. Every 5 minutes
Stop muting all the good cus words! That’s part of the process we need to know lol
buy you a vise
please do
Buy a impact screw driver please. Watching you use a half inch impact gun makes my teeth hurt.