That is why I love this series so much. It does not offer a pretentious monologue of one character, but always shows character interaction with smart dialogue. Ideas are presented from all kinds of viewpoints, and while Yang is teaching Julian, he also counters Yangs ideologies in a smart manner. That truly seperates LOGH from most shows and makes the dialogue so enjoyable.
The hell you talking about, man? I love this series as much as the next guy but there is a lot characters who monologue their thoughts. It's not always a conversation. This scene is amazing but it's not like this all the time as you say.
As a history student, this is why I've always loved LOGH. It has so many aspects, from its presentation, thematic references and characters (especially Yang!) that mark the show as a true loveletter to the study of history. I'm not sure whether this was reflective of the original book's author or the anime's director, but whoever made this show what it was truly loved history as well. Ive never seen anyhing like it!
A pretty accurate explanation of why humanity advances at such a rapid rate. Our growth and knowledge is multiplicative, not simply additive. People use records of past studies, events, and theories to advance various fields instead of just trying to make their own. Our society truly stands upon the shoulders of giants.
I am still amazed that we were abled to get so far so fast considering the timeline of history. Can you believe its only 100 years for us to master flight? Its been more than 5k years of somewhat complex human society.
@@marshmell0z think about vote bank politics , even if a person who existed in the past is a very ßhitty person we cannot criticize him because he represents a community which gives the votes . Example muhamad the prophet of Islam ( his life story made me believe he is the worst person to have existed ) no one can criticize him as they will lose vote
@@AlkiYamato também é associado com o conselho Militar da salvação nacional uma sincera sátira do anime Eu escrevi em português brasileiro mais você deve ter entendido
Actually, the author himself is an historian. He also wrote Arslan Senki's novels, quite a long time ago (both of his series have been adapted, on paper and in anime). Both are excellent, in my opinion.
“For as long as human history goes on, the past will continue to accumulate.” That’s a banger. Time and humanity doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It’s all connected and a part of us.
"Dugout Doug MacArthur lies a-shaking on the Rock Safe from all the bombers and from any sudden shock Dugout Doug is eating of the best food on Bataan And his troops go starving on." I'd say the pen won.
Though Yang Wenli never answered that question (about historians not having anything to study if it wasn't for those who change it) I've been thinking about it for a while. Now, I think I found a solution. We can change history peacefully and for the best. Scientists, artists, workers... all of them were changing the world we live in for centuries. Without them there would be no improvement. That's why I still don't understand why Julian wanted to be a soldier that much.
Because it's the soldiers who make sure those talented people are protected from those who might wish to do them ill. Our capacity for violence is just as much an important part of who were are as a species as our ability to create. People these days like to idealize the workers and artists, and seem to regard soldiers as well as war and aggression as being naturally negative. But that's not true. Our aggression is a major part of our success as a species: when we had to compete against other animals--we killed them. There were other hominids before us, some who might have been smarter but more inclined to gentleness that we either out-plucked or utterly wiped out and beat in the survival game. When we had to go against other people who are just as suspicious of us as we are with them: we fought to make sure any perceived threats are neutralized and to increase our own tribe's power and wealth. Our penchant for war and violence was useful. The soldier exists in order to make sure the other soldier from the other tribe doesn't end up killing his own tribe's doctor, artist, and his workers. Some may take this as further evidence of the soldier's negative role. Until people realize this: we're all different. People think in different ways and value different things. This also means they can hate different things and can want certain things other people value destroyed. There WILL come a time when someone tries to hurt those we want to protect and so it becomes necessary to smoke them out and rid ourselves of them. Some people were born for peace, while others were born for war. We're a mixed bag of nuts. And that's the way it's always going to be. In order to protect ourselves from the kind of nuts that may want to hurt us--we needed to learn to lie, fight, and brutalize. That's the reason the human species came to value dark traits. If our darker attributes were purely bad, we would have bred them out of ourselves years ago. But they're still in us. Instead of breeding it out, we cultivated them and saw them as desirable. Aggression and violence kept us alive then, and the time may come in the ever-turning future that we may need it again.
First of all, I'm not sure about your country, but in mine most people spend a lot of time praising our soldiers (which is quite understandable since we're currently in a state of war) and they forget about others who also live through struggles and help society. I know it's only natural for people to fight, but why do we do it, when there's no need for it? Why does slightest difference in ideology or whatever drives people crazy? I was always different from others. And, of course, it was tough for me. But as I was growing up I've learned to accept others and so did they. In our life we look back at the past and learn from our mistakes. Maybe the whole humanity can do the same. But, never mind, maybe I'm just too naive.
Diana Sofia No, you're not naive. I like it when people think the way you do. Even though I myself have lost all hope of mankind ever rising above themselves as a whole--individuals, of course, but all of us? No. (At least in my lifetime) There's always going to be a significant number of stupid people in any time period: stupid, petty, dull, shallow people who share more in common with the beasts than the angels. Trouble is...we can't tell who those people are exactly. The beast rests within us all. And what's more, the beast can actually be useful to us given the right circumstances. We fight each other sometimes because sometimes things are truly worth fighting for. As you said, people are different. We value different things: things we're willing to die for. But, just the same, we also hate different things: things we're willing to kill for. When values clash; blood spills. Eliminating your opposition is also the quickest and most straightforward way of changing the world to one's design provided one wants to change it enough. The reason we pounce on each other for every bit of difference is because we're creatures that like consistency and harmony. We absolutely hate deviation and unpredictability; we fear the unknown, and so we are naturally suspicious of those we see as "different". We define ourselves not by who or what we are, but who or what we are _not_. We were also wired to seek victory more than truth or justice, which is why every form of conflict, from wars to debates, can often turn ugly. Losing feels incredibly unpleasant. And to avoid it we'd rather cheat, and lie, and at times maybe even kill our opponents (or at least feel like it) rather than admit they might have a point that could make us question our worldviews. That said, despite it all, I still love mankind. In my own twisted way, I've even come to actually _like_ our species' ability to do horrible things to each other. It reminds me that for all our advancements and our lofty dreams for ourselves, and as much as some of us would like to deny it...some part of us will always remain animal.
The ruler should be gold, the guardians silver, and the worker bronze in Plato's idealized society. People as nations as they did cities in Plato's time will always want more or will expand in number so that they may need more. Sayem That is why republicanism is the greatest form of government a king to watch the people, an oligarchy to watch the king, and a proportional representative to watch the oligarchy, or without the metaphor, president/minister/consul, senate/parliament, house of reps/tribunes of plebs each one watching eachother insures that the rest are less likely to be corrupted so you neither have a king turn dictator, a senate turn oligarchy, or democracy turn anarchy.
It was pure admiration of a young boy. And If you are a man, you will know that war is an addicted games because it was a simple, creative and pure mind games. Of course, this opinion discounted the killing, stealing and raping ..... aspect of war.
yes but you can learn from it and become something great. You can learn something like leadership and strategy from great generals like napoleon, or alexander according to napoleon “read and re-read the campaigns of Alexander the Great, Hannibal, Julius Caesar, Gustavus Adolfus, Prince Eugene and Frederick the Great. This is the only way to become a great captain.” the idea is not to emulate them the idea is to try to learn how they think.
I agree People make it seem like it so deep but there's high chance it's elementary level school history typo stuff. Nothing particularly mindfucking that will make me ponder on it.
@Bill Cosby Drink i did say it did critique democracy, as it should be. But overall, it is definately favored in the anime compared to autocracy, just as it is irl in the west and japan. Because we know its the least bad system of the two.
@wingsofwinter2600I can't comprehend how the audience started to support Autocracy after watching LOGH. Is it because of Reinhard? Lol. How about the Goldenbaums like Braunschweig? Even the demagogue crook Truniht wouldn't be in power without the support of the most unrealistic faction of the show, the Earth Church.
Why this scene is greatest of all anime ? 2 Humans interacting about human history .. cat : hears them at first ,then it was like NAH!! I dont care about human history because I myself dont have a history and I dont even care about future like humans . The writer includes cat instead of any other animal is because cats are most "nihilist" animal they dont care about anyone or anything like humans . This scene yang wen-li talks about karl marx "revolution terrorism " as violence for liberation which atlast ends at controlling people and downfall of the society instead of actual liberation .
1:21 "The pen can impeach the dictator of a hundred years ago or the tyrant of a thousand years ago". That's just canceling with a thousand words via thesis.
Unfortunately, he is. He's also talking about countless other suppressions of revolutions throughout history (1848, 1956, etc). The double-edged sword of history is that autocrats can learn dark lessons as well. The CPC has famously subjected its upper leadership to seminar after seminar on the end of the Soviet Union to hopefully avoid its demise. With any luck, however, they will overreact in the opposite direction and ultimately undo themselves in a novel way they did not foresee. Nothing lasts forever.
I see 90s version and the Die nue These and just am amazed at the wondrous difference in voice acting. While the 90s very is good in its own right, I prefer the new one. I feel like the 90s voice acting was rushed and frankly unnatural. I have read the Light Novels and my word for this can be taken with sufficient credibility that Yang was the most laidback person in the entire series. I personally don't think he wouldn't explain to his adoptive child about history this way. He would add more pauses, have a more enthusiastic tone (for Yang loves to talk about history), speak with more compassion. He was like that one closer weeb who never got to talk about hus favourite anime but then simebody outright walked up to hum and asked him about the very same anime! Voice acting has evolved so much. The newer version incorporates all those things. Die Nue These mughtnot use the visuals like the 90s ova but because the explanation is a bit more relaxed, and frankly more human, I enjoy Die nue These more.
What he meant is that all violence is bad, but the means may be different and favourable or not for the people. Even if it is for liberation, it does not make violence "good" from a philosophical perspective.
That is why I love this series so much. It does not offer a pretentious monologue of one character, but always shows character interaction with smart dialogue. Ideas are presented from all kinds of viewpoints, and while Yang is teaching Julian, he also counters Yangs ideologies in a smart manner. That truly seperates LOGH from most shows and makes the dialogue so enjoyable.
I like it when the spaceships go boom-boom!
Irrelevant402 A true man of culture.
Exactly right!
I love this too as you!
The hell you talking about, man? I love this series as much as the next guy but there is a lot characters who monologue their thoughts. It's not always a conversation. This scene is amazing but it's not like this all the time as you say.
@@ari-man You are missing the point he made
Why this scene is great:
1) Mozart
2) The cat, as a literary (visual?) device
3) The perspective of the dialogue
3) Yang Wenli
As a history student, this is why I've always loved LOGH. It has so many aspects, from its presentation, thematic references and characters (especially Yang!) that mark the show as a true loveletter to the study of history. I'm not sure whether this was reflective of the original book's author or the anime's director, but whoever made this show what it was truly loved history as well. Ive never seen anyhing like it!
A pretty accurate explanation of why humanity advances at such a rapid rate. Our growth and knowledge is multiplicative, not simply additive. People use records of past studies, events, and theories to advance various fields instead of just trying to make their own.
Our society truly stands upon the shoulders of giants.
Humanity is so advanced that now men with women's dress are now participating in women's sports
@@fuckk-popandtiktok3388 dont confuse advancement with degeneracy. We have rejected the giants on which our society stands
Tu lo has dicho, colega... hablamos idiomas diferentes, pero compartimos perspectivas.
I am still amazed that we were abled to get so far so fast considering the timeline of history. Can you believe its only 100 years for us to master flight? Its been more than 5k years of somewhat complex human society.
That's why pioneers are more known that the people who advance them.
Yang Wenli is the guy that he wanted to study history, but in the contrary of his expectations, he made it
Still yangs ideology is wrong .
@@fuckk-popandtiktok3388 How so?
@@fuckk-popandtiktok3388
Can you explain your opinion?
@@fuckk-popandtiktok3388 I would agree he was politically naive despite being very intelligent.
@@marshmell0z think about vote bank politics , even if a person who existed in the past is a very ßhitty person we cannot criticize him because he represents a community which gives the votes . Example muhamad the prophet of Islam ( his life story made me believe he is the worst person to have existed ) no one can criticize him as they will lose vote
風邪引いて酒飲みながら歴史の説教をするヤンって・・・
卵酒？。
Man, the days when Julian was just a bright-eyed kid. It’s amazing to watch his maturity.
Some people should watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes now more than ever
ミャンマーの事で真っ先にこの回の会話を思い出した。
救国軍事会議も連想されますね
アニメとはいえ誠実な風刺
No se que dices, pero me parece razonable.
@@AlkiYamato eu me lembro dessa conversa ser sobre Myanmar
@@AlkiYamato também é associado com o conselho Militar da salvação nacional uma sincera sátira do anime
Eu escrevi em português brasileiro mais você deve ter entendido
かつてのソ連やイラクやドイツもね
One scene.. But I get 5 deep quotes about human history and violence and strangeness concepts
How much greatest this anime?!
Actually, the author himself is an historian. He also wrote Arslan Senki's novels, quite a long time ago (both of his series have been adapted, on paper and in anime). Both are excellent, in my opinion.
たった２分ちょっとのシーンで、この重厚なやり取りよ。大河アニメと言われるのも、よく分かる。
Excellent scene.
“For as long as human history goes on, the past will continue to accumulate.” That’s a banger. Time and humanity doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It’s all connected and a part of us.
I love how the creators of this show were like... Well if you are too bored with what he is saying here's a cat that feels the same way
It was actually to show the contrast between animals and humans in regards to history but yeah, this type of themes are not for everyone
@@borikoni2244 I find the thing Yang is saying fascinating but I know some people would think it's boring
@@WilliamRAguilar if someone finds this scene boring, he's unlikely to have made it to episode 35 in a series mostly of similar conversations.
歴史をなぜ学ぶのか聞かれたときはこれ流せばいいと思う
“Pen is mightier than the sword”
“Whoever said that has never seen an automatic weapon” - Douglas MacArthur
*Pumped Up Kicks intesifies
"Dugout Doug MacArthur lies a-shaking on the Rock
Safe from all the bombers and from any sudden shock
Dugout Doug is eating of the best food on Bataan
And his troops go starving on."
I'd say the pen won.
Douglas MacArthur「 I Shall Return 」
Pen 「He abandoned his soldiers and ran away」
Doug was removed from office with the struck of a pen.
Quoting the words of a historical figure is indeed a good demonstration of the power of the pen ;)
こういう人が上にいると下は幸せなんだけど、
こういう人はまず上にいないんだよなー。
K0yaman ヤンのような支配欲がない人物より支配欲がある人物のほうがそれをモチベーションに出世するからなぁ
既に上にいる人も、そういう人を当てにするんでしょうね。
意志があっても、能力がない人物が多い。
ヤンは立派でもヤンの上にいるトリューニヒト議長や国防大臣はロクな奴じゃなかった。
帝国領遠征が失敗した時も議員は辞職しただけで根本的な反省は行われず作戦の失敗もグリーンヒル大将やキャゼルヌ中将らに責任を押し付けてたからね。
これは帝国側にも言える事で「螺旋迷宮」でケスラーの過去に触れた際、「こういう反骨精神のある者は中央から遠ざけられる」みたいな発言があった。
結果フォーク准将が生まれるわけですね
政治、軍事、経済・・・人間にとっては、それが必要であり、大事なことであるにしても、それが究極ではないということ。
古田澄人 ヤン曰く、下水処理場らしいね
@@大根おろし-y2i 好きで近寄ろうとは、思わない。
i want to wipe my mind and re watch this great show. yang is my fafourite fictional character
Same
Though Yang Wenli never answered that question (about historians not having anything to study if it wasn't for those who change it) I've been thinking about it for a while. Now, I think I found a solution. We can change history peacefully and for the best. Scientists, artists, workers... all of them were changing the world we live in for centuries. Without them there would be no improvement. That's why I still don't understand why Julian wanted to be a soldier that much.
Because it's the soldiers who make sure those talented people are protected from those who might wish to do them ill. Our capacity for violence is just as much an important part of who were are as a species as our ability to create. People these days like to idealize the workers and artists, and seem to regard soldiers as well as war and aggression as being naturally negative. But that's not true. Our aggression is a major part of our success as a species: when we had to compete against other animals--we killed them. There were other hominids before us, some who might have been smarter but more inclined to gentleness that we either out-plucked or utterly wiped out and beat in the survival game. When we had to go against other people who are just as suspicious of us as we are with them: we fought to make sure any perceived threats are neutralized and to increase our own tribe's power and wealth. Our penchant for war and violence was useful.
The soldier exists in order to make sure the other soldier from the other tribe doesn't end up killing his own tribe's doctor, artist, and his workers. Some may take this as further evidence of the soldier's negative role. Until people realize this: we're all different. People think in different ways and value different things. This also means they can hate different things and can want certain things other people value destroyed. There WILL come a time when someone tries to hurt those we want to protect and so it becomes necessary to smoke them out and rid ourselves of them. Some people were born for peace, while others were born for war. We're a mixed bag of nuts. And that's the way it's always going to be. In order to protect ourselves from the kind of nuts that may want to hurt us--we needed to learn to lie, fight, and brutalize. That's the reason the human species came to value dark traits. If our darker attributes were purely bad, we would have bred them out of ourselves years ago. But they're still in us. Instead of breeding it out, we cultivated them and saw them as desirable. Aggression and violence kept us alive then, and the time may come in the ever-turning future that we may need it again.
First of all, I'm not sure about your country, but in mine most people spend a lot of time praising our soldiers (which is quite understandable since we're currently in a state of war) and they forget about others who also live through struggles and help society. I know it's only natural for people to fight, but why do we do it, when there's no need for it? Why does slightest difference in ideology or whatever drives people crazy? I was always different from others. And, of course, it was tough for me. But as I was growing up I've learned to accept others and so did they. In our life we look back at the past and learn from our mistakes. Maybe the whole humanity can do the same. But, never mind, maybe I'm just too naive.
Diana Sofia
No, you're not naive. I like it when people think the way you do. Even though I myself have lost all hope of mankind ever rising above themselves as a whole--individuals, of course, but all of us? No. (At least in my lifetime) There's always going to be a significant number of stupid people in any time period: stupid, petty, dull, shallow people who share more in common with the beasts than the angels. Trouble is...we can't tell who those people are exactly. The beast rests within us all. And what's more, the beast can actually be useful to us given the right circumstances.
We fight each other sometimes because sometimes things are truly worth fighting for. As you said, people are different. We value different things: things we're willing to die for. But, just the same, we also hate different things: things we're willing to kill for. When values clash; blood spills. Eliminating your opposition is also the quickest and most straightforward way of changing the world to one's design provided one wants to change it enough. The reason we pounce on each other for every bit of difference is because we're creatures that like consistency and harmony. We absolutely hate deviation and unpredictability; we fear the unknown, and so we are naturally suspicious of those we see as "different". We define ourselves not by who or what we are, but who or what we are _not_. We were also wired to seek victory more than truth or justice, which is why every form of conflict, from wars to debates, can often turn ugly. Losing feels incredibly unpleasant. And to avoid it we'd rather cheat, and lie, and at times maybe even kill our opponents (or at least feel like it) rather than admit they might have a point that could make us question our worldviews.
That said, despite it all, I still love mankind. In my own twisted way, I've even come to actually _like_ our species' ability to do horrible things to each other. It reminds me that for all our advancements and our lofty dreams for ourselves, and as much as some of us would like to deny it...some part of us will always remain animal.
The ruler should be gold, the guardians silver, and the worker bronze in Plato's idealized society.
People as nations as they did cities in Plato's time will always want more or will expand in number so that they may need more.
Sayem
That is why republicanism is the greatest form of government
a king to watch the people, an oligarchy to watch the king, and a proportional representative to watch the oligarchy, or without the metaphor, president/minister/consul, senate/parliament, house of reps/tribunes of plebs
each one watching eachother insures that the rest are less likely to be corrupted so you neither have a king turn dictator, a senate turn oligarchy, or democracy turn anarchy.
It was pure admiration of a young boy. And If you are a man, you will know that war is an addicted games because it was a simple, creative and pure mind games. Of course, this opinion discounted the killing, stealing and raping ..... aspect of war.
Yang Wen Li is the most relatable character for me
I'm also a History Nerd who takes a Pragmatic Approach to everything
Studying history nowadays is just as risky as fighting in battle. At least in battle you get paid more!
As a history major, I can say this is 100% true. xD
yes but you can learn from it and become something great. You can learn something like leadership and strategy from great generals like napoleon, or alexander according to napoleon “read and re-read the campaigns of Alexander the Great, Hannibal, Julius Caesar, Gustavus Adolfus, Prince Eugene and Frederick the Great. This is the only way to become a great captain.”
the idea is not to emulate them the idea is to try to learn how they think.
@ahmed Osama these people you mentioned aren't good examples unless you want to learn their crimes and avoid them
歴史を学ぶ重要性が現れてる。
What a brilliant series.
ネコちゃんは、その後、キャゼルヌ家の子になってしまいましたね。😅
great scene from a great anime
for me, each day this series gains more vigency
Best remedy against cold: tea and LoGH series:)
I have a fever right this moment and made pomegranate tea and am going through My Conquest is the Sea of the Stars. What the hell.
LotGH isn't particularly "deep" but it is very mature and very intelligent, especially for a TV show anime or not. It's a joy to watch.
I agree
People make it seem like it so deep but there's high chance it's elementary level school history typo stuff.
Nothing particularly mindfucking that will make me ponder on it.
今のミャンマーにも、ヤン提督みたいな人が居て欲しい………
今のミャンマーはルドルフの過激なやり方と同じだ！！
Sad true, my friend.
Yang talking about the military becoming its own power structure is just him describing the history of Latin America.
Or Southeast Asia
武勲の報奨が、聡明な美少年と言う
同盟の闇の深さ。
Game of Thrones, eat your heart out.
Its a shame to put got anywhere the same level as LOTGH
After that final season, putting GoT anywhere near LOGH would be a massive insult.
しかし、このドラネコ一体何食ったらこんなにデカくなったんだ。
因みに名前は元帥
この猫は、原作には、存在しない。
His face at the end is like oh shit I got played lmao
My god... I wish politicians were this based.
I wonder how they'll tackle this scene in the remake's next season
The remake was already awfull , I hope they don't continue
By how they butchered the backstory of Rudolf's rise, i've not high hopes
Yang on the last frame like "dis nigga..."
This anime was too dangerous for a dub in America. One reason is because of how politically awakening this scene is.
I thought because it was too long
but for real, they actually attempted to dub the series for 2 episode
Why would it be ? It critiques autocracy and mostly stands on the side of democracy, while it does criticize it, indeed.
@Bill Cosby Drink i did say it did critique democracy, as it should be. But overall, it is definately favored in the anime compared to autocracy, just as it is irl in the west and japan. Because we know its the least bad system of the two.
@wingsofwinter2600I can't comprehend how the audience started to support Autocracy after watching LOGH. Is it because of Reinhard? Lol.
How about the Goldenbaums like Braunschweig?
Even the demagogue crook Truniht wouldn't be in power without the support of the most unrealistic faction of the show, the Earth Church.
❤️✨ART✨ ❤️
＞ペンは剣よりも強し
ペンは時として、剣より余程恐ろしい兇器となる場合がある。
メディアが自己目的化したり、抗争の手段となった場合、特に酷い。
1:41 猫の顔深刻すぎるｗ
This serves quite well as a metaphor for real life
How many people in 2021 on twitter are wagging their finger at people from the 80s because those old people dont know how the world works.
now france is at a verge of anti islamic revolution
@@umapolymer6341 About time
@@umapolymer6341 Good
Why this scene is greatest of all anime ?
2 Humans interacting about human history ..
cat : hears them at first ,then it was like NAH!! I dont care about human history because I myself dont have a history and I dont even care about future like humans .
The writer includes cat instead of any other animal is because cats are most "nihilist" animal they dont care about anyone or anything like humans .
This scene yang wen-li talks about karl marx "revolution terrorism " as violence for liberation which atlast ends at controlling people and downfall of the society instead of actual liberation .
I hope Gilets Jaunes will use these quotes next saturday.
しかし、日本ではペンが剣に媚びそうに思える。
ペンは『言論』ではなく『法治』の意なんですけどね。
@@korge1235 今軽くググると「独立した報道機関などの思考・言論・著述・情報の伝達は、直接的な暴力よりも人々に影響力がある」
ってことらしいけど、法治にに関する場合はどんな話由来？
ペンは剣より強し。
ペンよりカメラのほうが強し。
カメラとネットが組めば最強。
そのペンは戦争の勝者が握るんだ
大勢の犠牲出して結局何も出来なかったコイツの罪はデカいよな(-_-;)
民主主義の種まき成功したんだから別にいいんだわ、あくまでヤンがすべきことは種まきだったからな。しっかりヤンが行動起こしたから結果に繋がり成功した。人として何も間違ってないよ、軍人としての正しさなんて人としての正しさの前ではどうでもいいからな
His core belief is that people choose for themselves whatever the consequence. Thats why he yielded when Heinessen was captured.
June 1
Forgot the violence to survive, of a caveman killing a a beast to live another day.
ペンは剣より強し、これはヤンにしては珍しく真理を語っていないと思う。剣の強さとペンの強さは比べられない。実際ペン（例えば工作活動）に軍隊が敗北する例だってあるし、軍隊が蹂躙する例だってある。その際、その時代の抑圧される人民にとって、将来の人間が自分たちが抑圧されたことを知っているからなんだと言うだろうか。
ペンの強さというものは確かにある。だけどペンは圧倒的軍事力にかなうことはない。けれど軍事力も万能ではなく、いくら抑圧してもそれこそペンの力でその怨念が蓄えられ、いつか爆発するときが来る。
正確に言えば、ペンも剣もともに強し、然れどもペンをして剣に勝たしむこと常ならねど、剣をしてペンに勝たしむことも常ならぬ。というところだと思う。
ペンを亜光速で飛ばすんでしょ
アルテミスもイチコロだぜ
なんだ、ペンも強いじゃないか
@@lookglacial6325 それは草
ペンが原始的な剣以上の兵器の設計図を書く事ができるから、ペンは剣より強いというのは事実としてあると思う。
それが解らなかったが故に、日本以外のアジアは武器を買うしかできず、西洋列強にボコボコにされた。
剣(今持っている兵器)vsペン(兵器を作り出す技術)と言えばいいか。
ヤンはペン押し。ヤンも完璧でなく、少しエゴがあって、人間らしい。
ユリアンは才能は少ないけど、均整は取れている。だから、余計に可愛がられる。ヤンは、ペンと剣との激しい比較に直接関わる立場にいる。ユリアンにとって、剣とペンを競う命題は、実はピンと来ていない。多くの概念のそれぞれ一つとして、ペンも剣も存在すると思っていて、どっちも重要だと思っている。戦争の時代と、平和の時代の境。
因みに私は、"pen"を重要な強化系アイテムだと思っていました。私はクレイジーではないです。取り敢えず帰ります。
それを烈海王にもいえるの？ｗ
1:21 "The pen can impeach the dictator of a hundred years ago or the tyrant of a thousand years ago". That's just canceling with a thousand words via thesis.
Yawn is talking about currently Hong Kong, isn’t he?
Unfortunately, he is. He's also talking about countless other suppressions of revolutions throughout history (1848, 1956, etc).
The double-edged sword of history is that autocrats can learn dark lessons as well. The CPC has famously subjected its upper leadership to seminar after seminar on the end of the Soviet Union to hopefully avoid its demise.
With any luck, however, they will overreact in the opposite direction and ultimately undo themselves in a novel way they did not foresee. Nothing lasts forever.
Sudan now
It took me so long to watch this show because I got a brain of a goldfish
I thought it was Jan Wen Lee
Jan is a Western name, and not one common within the Chinese community.
ペンを剣より強くするにはやはり剣が必要だと思う。
Now, try watching One Piece or Naruto dialog haha
Samurai Caci Why are you even trying to bring those up. It's like comparing Mona Lisa to finger painting
Generic Shonen dialogue becomes completely unreadable after LoGH lol
I do and i like it. Don't do inappropriate comparisons.
ua-cam.com/video/iAVJ7W8F7IA/v-deo.html Pain's cycle of hatred speech maybe?
Andrés Bahamonde watches yangs conversation with Reinhardt.no
香港のデモですね
わかります
もしかしたら、連載の時期的に天安門やハンガリーの話もありそう(笑)
@@もりかわにごう what interesting is that the anime was released a year before Tiananmen massacre and it was predicted in anime
I can so see this happening in the United States right now.
Maybe I guess?
Venezuela now
ペンはお金弱い
それは違います。
ペンがお金に弱いのではなく、ペンを握っている人間がお金に弱いのです。
銃もお金に弱い人間に握られれば同じ事です。
かりそめにも皇孫のはかまで一とる
Basically Myanmar, Taiwan, the Uighurs, Tibet, and Hong Kong today
I see 90s version and the Die nue These and just am amazed at the wondrous difference in voice acting. While the 90s very is good in its own right, I prefer the new one. I feel like the 90s voice acting was rushed and frankly unnatural. I have read the Light Novels and my word for this can be taken with sufficient credibility that Yang was the most laidback person in the entire series. I personally don't think he wouldn't explain to his adoptive child about history this way. He would add more pauses, have a more enthusiastic tone (for Yang loves to talk about history), speak with more compassion. He was like that one closer weeb who never got to talk about hus favourite anime but then simebody outright walked up to hum and asked him about the very same anime! Voice acting has evolved so much. The newer version incorporates all those things. Die Nue These mughtnot use the visuals like the 90s ova but because the explanation is a bit more relaxed, and frankly more human, I enjoy Die nue These more.
Finally someone on the comments who has something good to say about the remake
So handsome, so clever x
HK .... Add oil !
myanmar
That weird looking cat is really distracting.
猫可愛くねぇええ😭
0:17...so basicaly good v. and bad v.
I think the point was that, applying concepts of "good" and "bad" is too simple of a way of looking at things.
What he meant is that all violence is bad, but the means may be different and favourable or not for the people. Even if it is for liberation, it does not make violence "good" from a philosophical perspective.
Change of perspective
ばあらうといひたい。
これは…うーん、守るための暴力に触れないのは違うんじゃないかな？
軍隊の話をしている以上はこれでいいと思う
守る暴力なんていうのは少なくとも軍隊に関しては支配のための暴力にこそその理屈を振り回す専制国家やらばかりなのだから
自衛隊なんかも専守防衛である以上は相手に領土やらを奪われてから開放するために暴力発動が基本である以上守る暴力なんて軍隊には理想論のお題目にしかない
ヤン・ウェンリー、ルーマニア革命を知らない
だから例は少ない、って言ってるじゃん
Ukraine
富山敬は古代守といい、スペース・オペラに縁があるなぁ。