FAST BIKES 2023 ULTIMATE SPORTSBIKE HOMOLOGATION SPECIAL: BMW, DUCATI, HONDA
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- Опубліковано 25 жов 2023
- Having first completed some laps around Donington Park, Bruce and Tim are joined by road-racing’s Joe Akroyd to show them around the most appropriate roads to properly test bikes such as these, the IOM TT Circuit. The homologation specials from BMW, Ducati and Honda combine to bring this test 660 BHP, 84 Kilo’s of Downforce and £90,000 worth of machinery.
With Michelin providing the control tyre, Power Slick 2’s for track and Power Cup 2 for the roads, the Fast Bikes Team take these bikes to the limits, or is it the other way around?
Thanks to the following for helping to make test like this possible:
➡ www.michelin.co.uk/motorbike/...
➡ www.moto-direct.com
➡ www.nolimitstrackdays.com
➡ www.rg-racing.com
For more information on these bikes please visit:
➡ www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk
➡ www.ducati.com
➡ www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles
And, thanks to you for watching!
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There’s a reason why Ducati is succeeding at an extraordinary level in motoGP and SBK. They know what they’re doing with their bikes
VW/Audi made a huge improvement to ducati once they were acquired. making the largest/fastest vtwin sports bike ever (Panigale 1199/1299), took them a while to get into 4 cyl's lol because aprilia was/still is killing it with there RSV4 performance wise not selling wise because they just dont win in the GP
Nah - this video is not up to date i think. That honda has 216hp now.
@@NudaManThe one who bought Ducati was Lamborghini, and with their own money to save the brand from bankruptcy, VW was actually against it.
Lamborghini works outside of VW influence and does its own thing.
But not many people read or understand corporate financial reports.
Btw, Ducati has more wins in WSBK than all manufacturers combined, way before Lamborghini bought them, to the point that even Japanese manufacturers started to make Vtwin superbikes like the RC51 and TL1000.
Ducati success has nothing to do with VW; all their budget for MotoGP and WSBK and manufacturing is done by their own money, and VW contributes zero cents.
@@Fearless154 Financial reports, no need mate that was proper wank, @Nudeman makes a valid point because the original post was "They do well because they know what to do lmao".The difference since the VAG group have taken over is palpable. They were decent on track and terrible on road, now they finally make a road bike and dominate both. Check out the led headlights on the Lambo Hurrican if you thing VAG has no influence, subliminal VW flexing "VV", "VV", as for the front fairing of the V4.
Yeah, that V4 is bloody amazing. So powerful, linear acceleration above 4500 to redline. Im older, so I have a Pikes Peak with regular valves, but after having this V4, I could never go back to an inline 4. Plus, Ducati's are so well engineered, they are easy to ride fast.
For me it is the Fireblade, the look, the heat management and reliability.
After years and years riding motorcycles, reading and watching everything I can read, I reached to the conclusion that almost all bikes, can give you the power that you can barely use it all, but only few bike can give you the power and peace of mind that it won’t break at any moment on you, thus i choose Fireblade with no hesitation.
Yamaha are the most reliable bike brand. (warranty claims & service costs)
@@G-Man01 lol 😂
@@TIMHARTTT i used to work at a bike dealership. These were the stats across the state (Australia). Most reliable bike brand, including more reliable and affordable servicing than Honda. Im not even a Yamaha guy. Im a Kawasaki guy. But this is the reality.
@@G-Man01 i am not saying that Yamaha are not reliable, they are bulletproof and pretty reliable but the difference in reliability between Honda and Yamaha is really really small, and from my experience Honda has the upper hands in term of reliability, built quality and simplicity.
@@TIMHARTTT probably so. I mean, Honda is Honda. Loads of money to throw at their R&D. Though I have heard about engine check lights randomly being experienced by Honda owners. I do not know what model.
The closing video shot with the countryside background and the bikes singing off in the distance was perfect.
Did you guys do any suspension set up? A lot of the BMW issues could be cured with proper compression and rebound adjustments. Just a thought.
I love 1000cc group tests so much....
Great review focused on highlighting the strengths and weaknesses of each bike and discussing their place in the lineup rather than a ranking. Combine that with differing perspectives from the different sized testers ( I am 6’3” ) made the review interesting and informative! Great stuff!
agreed, having the different height testers added a real world rider perspective 👍
Couldn’t understand wtf these guys were saying but no question the v4R is the sexiest bike to have here
Ducati everyday and twice on a Sunday 👍👍👍
This is a bloody brilliant moto vid!!!! I'm never, ever going to even consider buying one these bikes but this video was sooooo engaging! Three down to earth lads, who obviously know what they're talking about, breaking down the ins and outs of three of the most amazing bikes on the planet. Fkn top job, boys! 😍😍😍💓💓💓
3 of the best bikes ever made! Great vid!!!
This is awesome content. 👏
Seems to have grown up a lot and become more sophisticated in presentation style but still has that ‘no bull’ fast bikes magic. And fun of course. Love all those bikes, Honda for me.
Great stuff. Love reading about this last month. Cool to see the video
Great review and video chaps. Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻
That was just awesome❤ cannot wait for more🎉
You guys kill it every time with great videos 👍🇬🇧🇺🇸
Super solid review specially on the streets were we use them mostly
You arent doing many video reviews these days, but stuff like this is absolutely brilliant. Really like how you cater for bith the track folks and for road users.
The quantity of videos may not be there but the quality is excellent.
Would love to to see some retro and used reviews of bikes from 2000 - 2012. See how they feel conpared to todays machines etc.
I genuinely love the weather!!! I am in an envy mode!!!
Cracking video chaps! That Ducati = 🥰
Best video you've done in a long time, excellent - awesome bikes and great video 👍
only 1 thing - can we see some hot laps on them ? get some of Tim's fast laps on !
Interesting observation about the carbon versus the fork choice on the BMW and the ergonomics of feeling like you are over the yoke on the Blade and not so the others. Admirable discussion and valuable insights. 👍👏👌
Excellent test gentleman.
Great video 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Oh, feeeback if you’re taking it: I’d like more bike sound during the onboard stuff. Not easy I know but adds quite a bit if you can nail it. Top work 👍
Interview from probably the best motorcycle viewing in the world! ❤ Creg ny baa.
Fantastic show fastbikes
Mint video boys
awesome upload
I am excited 🔥
Cracking video, in case you wondering what's the back ground music is: All wound up 🎶
I simp for Japan, but the Ducat is the best!
The V4R is my dream bike!❤
Great review!! Awesome videos and opinions that would help buyers .
Man i love GSXRs so much its a travesty we dont have them anymore.
Proper job gents! Great review. Looking forward to seeing how a “new” GSX-R1000 compares whenever it’s released
It will be even released?
Thought they discontinued
Suzuki pretty much gave up on the sportbike market; they are quit MotoGP and are not planning to enter WBK.
There is no financial logic for them to make a new GSXR1000.
Excellent review. Personally, I'm about the BMW. But this video gets to the differences that the average street rider will experience.
Would have been nice to hear the bikes instead of the music. At least it wasn’t crappy generic “rock”music that seems to be on every video that involves anything with an engine.
Thanks guys
My ideal trio. Just need the Honda in HRC red
I wish Honda would make an inline-6 Fireblade. It would sound INSANE!
Team honda always handling and straight line speed could have been nice to know the track times.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
AWESOME AMAZING SUPERB
Off topic but the island is freaking beautiful.
Ducati fanboy here, really fair and well balanced review!
Calm down, don’t hate
@@9GSR what are you talking about?
Absolute widowmakers
RR-R❤❤
I need help choosing between the 2024 V4 and the 2019 V4R (at the same price point) I understand low to mid range the v4 has literally double the power & torque than what the V4R has. The v4R can rev to 16500 but with a tune you can get the V4 to rev to 15000. So overall I’m leaning towards the v4 but I hear great things about the R
Since Ducati got bought by the VW,,Audi group reliability and quality have went up loads ,,all these are great 👍 but until I get the lottery up I'll be riding my K6GSXR and analogue bikes ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland
Good video guys, but how make comparison for best 2023 bikes without RSV4 :)
Because it’s not a 1000cc
The Ducati looks and sounds special , it would definitely get my money if I had it lol.
Weight Distribution Makes A Big Difference As Far As The Talk Between The B'mer & CBR Goes
gentlemen choose your weapon. how do you choose from such a selection.
Super impressive quality videos
2020 model still keeping up with million dollar builds by 23 model ducat and bmw thats got a lot to say, Honda will come through soon for sure
It would have been useful to point out that the true 'homologation specials' include a number of changes to the engine internals which accounts for most of the price difference. All the carbon fibre etc is just for the unters rather than actual race teams
Looks wise i disagree. The m1000 is just so weird and bulbous, function over form. My favorite is the Duc, though the cbr looks great too, the 24 looks better though
great video , 👍
Im so lucky to have my first ever 2023 DUCATI PANIGALE V4S
When you talk about the bike there is only one which is Honda
Love the video and have all of those bikes but the V4R should be on a 200/60 rear street tire and it really isn't fair to compare the Ducati with the other two bikes when it has a full exhaust installed.
damn what do you do for a living? super sick 765 btw
What size rear did u put on the ducati. 200 60
Or 200 55
I think the Panigale come stock with a 200/60 profile tire
Is that Honda the RR-R SP? I don’t think that the Honda they tested is available in the US.
CBR 1000 RR-R SP 30th Annyversary
The Ducati’s exhaust looks like it should be sticking out of the top of a hillbillies moonshiners garden shed.
who crashed? 🤔
10:51
BMW said here. Here ta go. You wanna go fast? Here's a moto GP bike from 2018. If you can ride it, awesome! If not? Then you shouldn't own it. This guy is talking about an absolutely incredible V-4, big bore Ducati. To a raw, inline 4 BMW S1000RR. If you're capable of pushing these machines, then my hat is off to you. My 2005 ZX-6R (636) with mods and tune, is a little weapon. So simmercdown on dogging a bike you're not capable of riding.
what is Timmy's height? He seems like a perfect reference for me as far as height
Man I love this channel fast bikes and there magazines. I wish they made more videos on UA-cam. But beside that Honda cbr1000rr-r fire blade sp all the way 💯%🫶🏾
Ducati all day, Kemmon!!
So, basically, an advert for cup 2.
Call me crazy but I want the Honda, Ducati, then BMW. With the latest update just announced it is everything I was looking for.
Honda 2024? I was expecting more TBH,like a Revolution
@fqeagles21 For a Japanese manufacturer, it is already a lot for an update. All the changes were addressing all the problems the current bike has, which mean Honda really listened & actioned on those feedbacks. It's rare.
@@yellow6ird Japanese needs to change approach i think
@@fqeagles21 that's like wanting Italian to be quiet & reserve & American to give up their guns. It's ingrained deeply in their culture & not something easily change.
@@yellow6ird i know,but they need this in MotoGP
Scraped your boots on the Panigale? Was that you in the video with your feet on the ends of the pegs?
I guess its too hard to remove a single fuse to disable the abs?
I'm told that can lead to a load of bloody issues with sensors...
I guess it's to hard to know that on modern bikes it is not as simple and you actually need an Abs emulator...
@@pedro99396 So you’re telling me my 6000€ zx6r has a better track ready setup for braking feel than these 30 grand monsters?
Shit thats even more damning.
@@Stratocasterhead51Them £30,000 monsters would lap your £6,000 ZX6R with ease 😂
You HAVE to include Kawa and Suzuki. And if you want to be complete Aprilla and MV Augusta etc.
These bikes claim to be the best. But are they?
I have only ridden the Honda lovely bike. But if you give it the beans the gearbox fails in a big way. The only way to get a replacement is by the USA. 🤣
Tbh i look at the thumb nail thought it was some Ride5 gameplay
Number plate alone cuts 5-6 hp
A BMW S1000RR Race for half the price and exhaust and Brentune would probably beat all these and be the best road bike.
RsV4 factory and r1m missing
Gd content but aprilia and the other Japanese manufacturers should have been included.
Great video, but there was one disadvantage to the BMW & HONDA they were completely stock. Ducati had a race exhaust system installed and a tune that comes with the akra system, this is why it sounded so much better.
That’s how you can get the 23 v4 R with that set up from factory as race option
No you don’t. That’s an accessory exhaust option from Ducati which can be added for additional cost of $8,200 + installation.
Yes, that’s the race configuration like a said ducati offers as an option, look up on their website. I know because I owned one
Yes I know. The bike at $45k doesn’t include the race exhaust, it’s an optional accessory. This is why in this particular video like I stated above it’s not a good comparison because the other two bikes were just as they come without adding any additional accessories. So if they should have the V4r without the race exhaust.
@@9GSR The exhaust is an accessory fitted by the dealer. The bike does not leave the factory with the race exhaust fitted.
Where’s the Aprilia X?
Suzuki or Kawasaki should have been included. If anything to justify the 10k plus upcharge of these other bikes.
Why? One isn’t made anymore and the other wouldn’t even compete with these 3. Same as why Yamaha aren’t there either.
WSBK literally just changed the rules in a way that does not benefit the consumer because Kawasaki and Yamaha can't be bothered to update their platforms. Is that not enough justification?
? This is top range bikes, even Yamaha isn’t therr
The Suzuki is 6 years old and hasn't changed in that time. No one races it anymore and it's irrelevant these days.
@@danielandrew24the Honda and bmw are winning nothing in motogp , wsb or bsb !
Why is the speedo set to KMH instead of MPH 👀🙄
Because they’re not American?
@LS-oh8kv ... In the UK we use MPH
Gixxer best for road
Ducati all day everyday
Where is RSV4 ??????
So I like the CBR1000RR but Without Even Sitting On It The Seat Looks So Thin & Uncomfortable
No aprilia 😢
Euro superbikes beat the japanese superbikes for 16th year in a row .
In motogp and wsbk yeah. In drag racing theres no euro bikes existence
@@orionmobile6545 drag racing is american sport and its all down to after market parts available . euro bikes just are not in drag racing .
@@orionmobile6545 16 years of beating the japanese in every comparison of street bikes . i have no bias i have a superbike collection of both euro and japanese superbikes . euro bikes are just beter than jap bikes in every aspect now
Music is ten times louder than the commentary
With the Ducati, you will spend twice as much in maintenance costs.
My god, the wings on all of these... Especially on the BMW looks absolutely atrocious. Whatever tiny performance gain they give is definitely not worth it.
Ducati ones are fine but I agree bmw wings are🤢
And Aprilia 😢😢
Excellent review. And then the old Yamaha R1 still keeps winning the races. Unfair for the others.
Which races are them now: WSBK? BSB? IOM TT? NW200? British Superstock?
Which races?
It's sad how the 🇯🇵 brands don't care about making sexy bikes. Motorcycles are just another commodity to them, just like cars, planes, and instruments.....
No enthusiasm👀
Ducati been homicidal in every aspect..destroy anything u thought at it😅
Yall scared of the H2R ?
I don't think the h2r belongs in this group.
Can i just say im really happy this content exists? It is really interesting knowing which bikes feel what way, what their ideal biker size is, road manners, brake manners etc.
However i find it absolutely NAUSEATING when you guys sing praises and make it seem like everyone is a winner.
Is honda or Ducati not ALLOWING you to give us even basic performance indicators? Dyno, a few drag races (both standing and rolling), laptimes, braking distances, fuel economy, fuel range, weight, PRICE (with the options, im guessing that juicy ducati exhaust probably cost the best part of 7000€)
Its amazing how you have access to these locations (Isle of Man, Donington) and these machines, yet at the end of the video you have given us jack shit in terms of real information. Its all impressions, opinions, style preferences…
Please stop the music during the videos and let engines do the singing😊