Link to NGS Skill Tree simulator: arks-layer.com/skillsim/ngs/skillcalc.php Strongly recommended to look through each skills and what they do. So you may build your own skill tree! If you really don't have any idea on what to do and want to follow my GuFo build, here you go. IF you plan to play Force as main class at some point, go for this: bit.ly/3gwMSjc (TMG focus, no Spread Shot related skills for Rifle) IF you do NOT plan to play Force as a main class, or have AC for extra skill tree, you may do this: bit.ly/3xnLTZt (Put the rest of the SP on Force skill tree wherever you want)
Close bullet chain finisher into stylish onslaught spam on downed enemies is the highest DPS gunner can deal barring other niche situations where you dodge the enemy first. It is absurd how much damage Stylish Onslaught can deal within that tiny dmg amp window after chain finisher.
I play gunner/ranger only to use riffle and launcher. And since gunner and ranger has the skills spread shot and spread shot quick scape, you only need to take it in one of them. I only reduce the ailtments time on ranger, the damage doesn't really bother. I don't really bother about the extra PP regeb from FO, because gunner skills and auto atack and the right gear build gives you plenty room to abuse damage without lacking PP. And if needed you can always take food for extra PP regen or extra PP along with 10% potency.
I'm not sure if this was mentioned but when the chain is popped it's similar to pso2. When you pop the chain the damage is active until the chain ends, but you still need to use charge PAs for the extra damage. Currently the only thing that can benefit from this is doing 2 close bullets as the other PAs have too long of an animation to get another full charged PA during it. 2 close bullets is the highest dps for chain, but its still the most difficult due to boss movement. Also there's boosted and unboosted stylish roll arts, based on of chain boost is active. Unboosted is long range and boosted is close range.
@@TheOTKGameplay the damage boost starts when u first used changed PA that will turn the numbers to yellow till the number disappears. All charged PA damages during the yellow number will also be boosted.
In my opinion FOR CONTROLLER USERS, NGS Gunner is far easier than base PSO2, the fact it's simplified gives me less buttons to use, however like you said in the video, gunner right now is almost only two skills, may as well play force.
yeah I does that time to time, with close bullet, but I kind of prefer doing that when the boss is down or not moving. It is good burst damage for sure!
Thanks for the great analysis, this is my favorite class in the old pso2 too, i started to play gunner since i first come to JP server at 2016. That time was a hard time for Gu becuz there was no lv85 skill. Btw, i still not understand about how limited the s roll that u said in clip
If the target is moving a lot I would do a full bullet rave, and see if I can squeeze in a weapon action at the end. If the target is stunned or not moving a lot, I would do close bullet with 4 weapon action.
ah i expected the skills to be shown on action so i can see what does the text is trying to tell us about the skills while using them. i can read the text of the skills by myself but using them in the right way is a different thing.
up to you, any 4 star can be good, as long as you find the one that suit your playstyle. You just have to know what stats you want from weapon and unit, then affix it to get more of it.
nice vid I’m a gunner/fighter In pso ngs and going my own route with it I was a ranger/gunner that eventually went phantom in pso2 buuuuut got shit for running ranger/gunner in the original but somehow was playing it better than most peoples guides and doing more damage the launchers were op
I do not have the data for them, but from my personal experience for using them, I can tell you the stylish roll arts isn't that much stronger in terms of the PP usage comparing to it's damage, it's damage is about 160-180% regular S-Roll normal attack, with small AoE, but eats up 10PP. Stylish Onslaught feels worth to use, can spam it too, the damage is pretty close to spamming uncharged Close Bullet. (or around that damage) For Spread Shot it's a rifle only skill, I forget to mention in the video that it is a active skill, and charges up like Photon Blast, if you swap back to TMG I think the gauge will reset. I don't really use rifle on gunner so I can't tell how much damage it can potentially do, but on Ranger, it is a great tool if you use rifle a lot, acts like a shotgun blast that does multiple ticks, very good on enemy, with decent damage too.
@@DaeDae0415 Hmm... 180% potency for s-roll arts *would* make it as strong as base pso2 s-roll arts with ASRA applied to it, minus the big cone aoe. As for S-Onslaught, that would put it at around 200% potency, which is certainly interesting alongside alleged guard points that have been talked about on the swiki comments. As for Spread Shot on Ranger, how does it compare to the rifle PAs damage-wise?
@@Brown95P Spread shot when I look back to my record on Ranger, it's an attack that hit 12 times total at close range, each tick is around 190-220% of a normal attack tick. It is pretty powerful but takes time to charge up.
It's PSO2's shop system, if you never have the weapon dropped or searched the name directly in the shop, it won't show up when you do a general search, the best way to get it will be copy the exact name of the weapon from wiki page and put it in the search bar, and you should find it.
How I found my weapons was to search for items with a rarity exactly equal to 4, and I just scrolled... eventually I found a 4* of every single weapon type. I couldn't search for any weapons directly in the player shop. (I assume more bugs given the player shop itself took about half a minute to load. It couldn't even find additional copies of weapons in my inventory already.)
Hey, just a feedback on your guide videos. When explaining different gunner mechanics, weapon action and PAs, it is best to show an example with a clip rather than just blabbering all the info on a whole gameplay video without focusing over the mechanic/PA. New gunners definitely will not fully understand what you are saying. The line "you are at the right place" at the start wasn't really correct in this case. But keep producing videos man! Hope this helps you improve on future guide videos
Thanks for the feedback, the weapon action part is a bit harder to show since it’s mostly combined with other action on gunner before and after in combat. For the PA part, I actually cut some footage for just using those PA if you look closely at it!
@@DaeDae0415 yeah thats what i was pointing out that the clip was not focused enough on the PA. It would be nice to have some pauses probably or some way of focusing which parts you were mentioning like for example which part of that PA you can use weapon action. Ive seen classic pso2 class guide documents with much clearer showcase of the PA/mechanic using gifs since it actually focuses on it rather than a whole gameplay clip. Thats just how it looked for me as i would still need to find another resource to understand certain mechanics you mentioned here. But im just one viewer sharing my thoughts here.
you will not have the skill point for everything, for me I don't take Spread Shot and Spread Shot Quick Escape seeing I don't plan to use rifle on Gunner. I get everything else on Gunner skill tree, and put as many points into Attack PP Restore as possible.
You have enough points for everything except Scatter Shot (and its second skill) with two points left over for Downed Enemy PP Restore. The other PP Rstore, that just increases your PP regen when attacking anything, should be maxed. (Currently, at least. May not be a need later depending on new augments, weapon series, etc.)
Hi nice video on gunner analysis. I playing gunner/ force as sub. Can you share some tip on how to level up force sub class skill tree to maximize the sub class skill?
Level on subclass has nothing to do with skill point, it’s two independent things. As long as you do towers and cocoon, you will have the skill points on all your classes. For leveling your subclass, you don’t really need to do much beside just playing it as subclass, it can go up to level 15 at max. If you really want to have it up to level 20 then you can play it as main class. For Force skill tree, what you want to focus is the PP regen skills that can be used on subclass. Anything has to do with main class only skill should be avoided. (If you don’t even plan to play Force as main class beside leveling, you should only have a few skills that regen PP maxed.)
@@DaeDae0415 thanks for the tip, i have the same combo gunner main and force as sub class...what im still not understanding is if i should be switching among classes when fighting, like using elements with force and then switching to gunner when the monster is down Or should i see the sub class as a different skill tree i can use for certain skill i want? Im at level 10 and just unlocked the ability of combining weapons together and i dont know if i combine my current gun with a force weapon, would that make my main and sub class better since im using those classes or it doesn't matter what i choose. Thanks for any help, i come from MH and all this is pretty foreign to me lol.
@@JLW01470 multi-weapon system is something SEGA is still working on at the moment, if you were playing Gunner main, I would recommend combine Rod to your TMG, I tried it in CBT, where I use a Rod/TMG, and then I realized I can't use Chain Trigger as main class on that weapon. Force sub is nice since you can still use technique with Force weapons, meaning if there's no Force or Techer in the 8man MPA for the boss, you can do elemental ailment on the boss. Most of the time there will be dedicated Force or Techer, so you can just do your Gunner job, to burst down the boss.
![[PSO2NGS]Force Guide](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ns6Z_RLm1kM/mqdefault.jpg)
Link to NGS Skill Tree simulator:
arks-layer.com/skillsim/ngs/skillcalc.php
Strongly recommended to look through each skills and what they do.
So you may build your own skill tree!
If you really don't have any idea on what to do and want to follow my GuFo build, here you go.
IF you plan to play Force as main class at some point, go for this:
bit.ly/3gwMSjc (TMG focus, no Spread Shot related skills for Rifle)
IF you do NOT plan to play Force as a main class, or have AC for extra skill tree, you may do this:
bit.ly/3xnLTZt
(Put the rest of the SP on Force skill tree wherever you want)
Caution: If you want to play other classes I advise you do so before Gunner, once you get addicted to spamming stylish roll, there's no going back
Oof i can say so
but i think Force also fun to play,even ater addicted to S-Roll
Close bullet chain finisher into stylish onslaught spam on downed enemies is the highest DPS gunner can deal barring other niche situations where you dodge the enemy first. It is absurd how much damage Stylish Onslaught can deal within that tiny dmg amp window after chain finisher.
Can u elaborate on the damage amp window? Is it shown on the ui after u finish? Or it last an amout of time that u are supose to memorize:?
@@TheOTKGameplay its when the 100 chain letter turns yellow after you input a chain trigger finish. Once its gone, the damage amp is also gone
@@BunToomo so u pop the chain with BC into onslaught util the 100 disapears? Then go back to building CT Right?
@@TheOTKGameplay yes
@@BunToomo ty for the explanation!
I play gunner/ranger only to use riffle and launcher. And since gunner and ranger has the skills spread shot and spread shot quick scape, you only need to take it in one of them. I only reduce the ailtments time on ranger, the damage doesn't really bother. I don't really bother about the extra PP regeb from FO, because gunner skills and auto atack and the right gear build gives you plenty room to abuse damage without lacking PP. And if needed you can always take food for extra PP regen or extra PP along with 10% potency.
I bind S-roll to side-mouse-button-1, same as the aerial advancing slash for insect glaive
I'm not sure if this was mentioned but when the chain is popped it's similar to pso2. When you pop the chain the damage is active until the chain ends, but you still need to use charge PAs for the extra damage. Currently the only thing that can benefit from this is doing 2 close bullets as the other PAs have too long of an animation to get another full charged PA during it. 2 close bullets is the highest dps for chain, but its still the most difficult due to boss movement.
Also there's boosted and unboosted stylish roll arts, based on of chain boost is active. Unboosted is long range and boosted is close range.
Thnx i wondered myself what does the boost actually do to Srolls
When exacly does chain end? (Aka the damage boost) is it when the 100 disapears?
@@TheOTKGameplay the damage boost starts when u first used changed PA that will turn the numbers to yellow till the number disappears. All charged PA damages during the yellow number will also be boosted.
@@angahngerah6424 ty for the info!
In my opinion
FOR CONTROLLER USERS, NGS Gunner is far easier than base PSO2, the fact it's simplified gives me less buttons to use, however like you said in the video, gunner right now is almost only two skills, may as well play force.
I tend to use Close bullet once my chain bonus is activated.
It has a burst damage with the lowest frame animation.
yeah I does that time to time, with close bullet, but I kind of prefer doing that when the boss is down or not moving. It is good burst damage for sure!
Thanks for the great analysis, this is my favorite class in the old pso2 too, i started to play gunner since i first come to JP server at 2016. That time was a hard time for Gu becuz there was no lv85 skill.
Btw, i still not understand about how limited the s roll that u said in clip
What outfit is that if I may ask
Och' valentine outfit.
N-ショコラフェリチェ[Ba] | N-Chocolat Felice [Ba]
N-ショコラフェリチェ/2[Ba] | N-Chocolat Felice /2 [Ba]
N-ショコラフェリチェ/B[Ba] | N-Chocolat Felice /B [Ba]
N-ショコラフェリチェ/B2[Ba] | N-Chocolat Felice /B 2 [Ba]
What is your general combo after you pop chain trigger?
Do you spam close bullet or bullet rave or something else?
If the target is moving a lot I would do a full bullet rave, and see if I can squeeze in a weapon action at the end. If the target is stunned or not moving a lot, I would do close bullet with 4 weapon action.
ah i expected the skills to be shown on action so i can see what does the text is trying to tell us about the skills while using them. i can read the text of the skills by myself but using them in the right way is a different thing.
Good video! Gunner is cool but I'm lazy, what the easiest class to play?
Probably Force with Rod since you will just need cast techniques from the far (if you don't have aggro).
@@DaeDae0415 Cool, gonna try it. Thank you for the answer.
Where would you out gunner right now compared to the other classes?
What 4* weapon and armor would you recommend to use?
up to you, any 4 star can be good, as long as you find the one that suit your playstyle.
You just have to know what stats you want from weapon and unit, then affix it to get more of it.
nice vid I’m a gunner/fighter In pso ngs and going my own route with it I was a ranger/gunner that eventually went phantom in pso2 buuuuut got shit for running ranger/gunner in the original but somehow was playing it better than most peoples guides and doing more damage the launchers were op
Been playing for like a year and a half
Do you have any info on the potency of Stylish Roll Arts, Stylish Onslaught and Spread Shot?
I do not have the data for them, but from my personal experience for using them, I can tell you the stylish roll arts isn't that much stronger in terms of the PP usage comparing to it's damage, it's damage is about 160-180% regular S-Roll normal attack, with small AoE, but eats up 10PP.
Stylish Onslaught feels worth to use, can spam it too, the damage is pretty close to spamming uncharged Close Bullet. (or around that damage)
For Spread Shot it's a rifle only skill, I forget to mention in the video that it is a active skill, and charges up like Photon Blast, if you swap back to TMG I think the gauge will reset. I don't really use rifle on gunner so I can't tell how much damage it can potentially do, but on Ranger, it is a great tool if you use rifle a lot, acts like a shotgun blast that does multiple ticks, very good on enemy, with decent damage too.
@@DaeDae0415
Hmm... 180% potency for s-roll arts *would* make it as strong as base pso2 s-roll arts with ASRA applied to it, minus the big cone aoe.
As for S-Onslaught, that would put it at around 200% potency, which is certainly interesting alongside alleged guard points that have been talked about on the swiki comments.
As for Spread Shot on Ranger, how does it compare to the rifle PAs damage-wise?
@@Brown95P Spread shot when I look back to my record on Ranger, it's an attack that hit 12 times total at close range, each tick is around 190-220% of a normal attack tick. It is pretty powerful but takes time to charge up.
Excuse me , your Head decoration What's the name?
imgur.com/MBA5T0g
it's that one, I don't know the name for Global though.
@@DaeDae0415 Is there an English translation? I play the English version thanks
@@zxc8572420 I don't know the name in English since I don't mainly play on global server that much D:
@@DaeDae0415 OK,Thanks for your reply!
Gunner x Fighter = boss killer
Gunner x Force = Mobbing
GuFi definitely got bossing potential, but investing 10 SP into Fighter skill tree with 5% downed enemy damage feels pretty small to me D:
I can't find a 4 star twin machine gun on the player shop. Do you know why? I heard there was a catt series but it doesn't show for me
It's PSO2's shop system, if you never have the weapon dropped or searched the name directly in the shop, it won't show up when you do a general search, the best way to get it will be copy the exact name of the weapon from wiki page and put it in the search bar, and you should find it.
How I found my weapons was to search for items with a rarity exactly equal to 4, and I just scrolled... eventually I found a 4* of every single weapon type.
I couldn't search for any weapons directly in the player shop. (I assume more bugs given the player shop itself took about half a minute to load. It couldn't even find additional copies of weapons in my inventory already.)
Farm mt magnus for Catt tmg
@@Ajilo magnus rank 2 or regular?
@@iBassCrazi rank 2
I just hold auto action and spam stylish roll
Hey, just a feedback on your guide videos. When explaining different gunner mechanics, weapon action and PAs, it is best to show an example with a clip rather than just blabbering all the info on a whole gameplay video without focusing over the mechanic/PA. New gunners definitely will not fully understand what you are saying. The line "you are at the right place" at the start wasn't really correct in this case. But keep producing videos man! Hope this helps you improve on future guide videos
Thanks for the feedback, the weapon action part is a bit harder to show since it’s mostly combined with other action on gunner before and after in combat. For the PA part, I actually cut some footage for just using those PA if you look closely at it!
@@DaeDae0415 yeah thats what i was pointing out that the clip was not focused enough on the PA. It would be nice to have some pauses probably or some way of focusing which parts you were mentioning like for example which part of that PA you can use weapon action. Ive seen classic pso2 class guide documents with much clearer showcase of the PA/mechanic using gifs since it actually focuses on it rather than a whole gameplay clip. Thats just how it looked for me as i would still need to find another resource to understand certain mechanics you mentioned here. But im just one viewer sharing my thoughts here.
what a best weapon seires for gunner?
There is really no best weapon, it’s up to how you play the class.
maybe i miss it cuz im skipping da video ...
but u didnt mention anything about critical range
gunner, like ranger, got critical range
That is something I will have to look into and inform people with another video, thanks for bringing it up.
@@DaeDae0415 u know da white circle thingy when ur looking at a monster, it turns orange when ur in critical range
@@Elilymo yes I know, I will be addressing that in a separated video. Thanks for bringing it up, I totally miss that in this video.
@@DaeDae0415 it all good, hope to see more class guide from you :D
@@Elilymo what does the crit range do?
What button did you bind your S-Roll to?
it's on my shift, and I use the mouse button 5 to do the back palette swap.
WHAT KINDA MULTI WEAPON DO u use?
I haven't combine any weapon with my 4 star TMG, still thinking about what to put with it.
Either that or I just use my PSO2 gear.
Thanks for guide 0 .0)b
how do you change language to english in jp region?
Arks Layer, they have Tweaker for Eng patching
@@DaeDae0415 what is that and where do i find it if im playing on switch?
@@damientedkwan8149 I don't think it support switch sadly, probably only for PC, but you can check it out.
@@DaeDae0415 aight, thx for ur help
do i max everything on the gunner skill tree?
you will not have the skill point for everything, for me I don't take Spread Shot and Spread Shot Quick Escape seeing I don't plan to use rifle on Gunner. I get everything else on Gunner skill tree, and put as many points into Attack PP Restore as possible.
thanks!
You have enough points for everything except Scatter Shot (and its second skill) with two points left over for Downed Enemy PP Restore.
The other PP Rstore, that just increases your PP regen when attacking anything, should be maxed. (Currently, at least. May not be a need later depending on new augments, weapon series, etc.)
Hi nice video on gunner analysis. I playing gunner/ force as sub. Can you share some tip on how to level up force sub class skill tree to maximize the sub class skill?
Level on subclass has nothing to do with skill point, it’s two independent things. As long as you do towers and cocoon, you will have the skill points on all your classes.
For leveling your subclass, you don’t really need to do much beside just playing it as subclass, it can go up to level 15 at max.
If you really want to have it up to level 20 then you can play it as main class.
For Force skill tree, what you want to focus is the PP regen skills that can be used on subclass. Anything has to do with main class only skill should be avoided. (If you don’t even plan to play Force as main class beside leveling, you should only have a few skills that regen PP maxed.)
@@DaeDae0415 alright pp recovery all the way thanks !
@@DaeDae0415 thanks for the tip, i have the same combo gunner main and force as sub class...what im still not understanding is if i should be switching among classes when fighting, like using elements with force and then switching to gunner when the monster is down Or should i see the sub class as a different skill tree i can use for certain skill i want? Im at level 10 and just unlocked the ability of combining weapons together and i dont know if i combine my current gun with a force weapon, would that make my main and sub class better since im using those classes or it doesn't matter what i choose. Thanks for any help, i come from MH and all this is pretty foreign to me lol.
@@JLW01470 multi-weapon system is something SEGA is still working on at the moment, if you were playing Gunner main, I would recommend combine Rod to your TMG, I tried it in CBT, where I use a Rod/TMG, and then I realized I can't use Chain Trigger as main class on that weapon.
Force sub is nice since you can still use technique with Force weapons, meaning if there's no Force or Techer in the 8man MPA for the boss, you can do elemental ailment on the boss. Most of the time there will be dedicated Force or Techer, so you can just do your Gunner job, to burst down the boss.
@@DaeDae0415 okay thank you...rod to twin machine gun got it...thanks for the help...im very very new to this :)
I'm playing as gunner in Global dae XD
he said PP hehe
400 dps dae
Why are you playing a little girl?
why are you questioning MMORPG?
@@DaeDae0415 idk I just tought it was quite weird
@@Ghaalix not at all, there are many guys playing as female character, vice versa, mainly because female character got better fashion in PSO2.