As a professional Tree surgeon I have used an MS 291 with a 16" 325 chain. I have felled Oak, Ash and 80' spruce trees, also snedding all day no problem. The weight is fine, by the way I'm 65.
I love my MS 291. I use it always with a 20" full chisel chain. I recently cut down and cut up more than 20 crepe myrtles with a single chain, while sharpening it once during the whole process. Then I cut down a partially dead 35 foot maple with the same chain. It seems to be a very high compression, hard to pull on a cold start (actually any start) saw, but once you get the technique down, it starts every time and does not stall out when warmed up for a minute or so. It makes a great combination when used with the MS 250 to cut the smaller stuff.
I purchased a 261 about 2 months ago and have cut about 4 cords of wood with it. This is an awesome machine that makes short work of anything 18 inches or smaller. I have a 20 inch bar with a yellow chain on it and it spits chunks while cutting like butter through seasoned oak wood. I went from a 302 echo to this and by the end of the day I felt no different in fatigue because the stihl does all the work . Very impressed except I paid over 600 from Ace hardware but it's a lifetime purchase for me . I recommend getting a tank/handle plate to protect the bottom of the saw . The 12 bucks or so can save you a lot of money and down time from a broken saw . Also a double dawg kit keeps your cuts straight and digs better when falling trees .
I'm a professional tree cutter in forestry, Been doing it for years and this saw was by far one of best saws I had throughout my years in forestry and still is. The 291 is a beast and a half
I've been running a Makita 14" for about 5 years and is a good saw for smaller branches. But just wasn't cutting it for the big logs. The motor power just wasn't there. So I just picked up a Stihl 291 16" today and did a couple runs through some of my bigger logs. Like cutting butter in comparison to my makita. Definatly worth it.
You can also use used motor oil. Been running that for almost a decade, cut MANY stringy, gooey, cottonwoods. Never replaced a bar. Also, I prune prize trees when not felling. I use vegetable oil for really nice yards. Doesn't kill grass, plants, or hurt things like coy ponds.
@@travisp11 the viscosity of used motor oil is less than it originally was so it really doesn't matter. But it flows nice. Use a pin or a needle to clean the oiler hole from time to time. If you cut up really gooey trees it can block them up.
After watching this video I made up my mind after lots of thinking and deciding on what I wanted I decided to go out an buy this saw...I just bought it today an I hope to use it very soon I’m sure I’m gonna enjoy it since it is a Stihl product...thanks
I ran the heck out of it when I first got it and it ran like a champ. I used it a bit and she started right up. I know that that it is a but pricey but I only run the Stihl premix fuel through it
I really like mine. Going on 3 to 4 years now. Stihl is worth the price in my opinion. Love my 130r weed wacker especially with a blade doing clean up. Used it alot around the farm. Best thing I did tho was go to the yellow chain. Man it cuts so much better.
I’ve got a yellow/black Craftsman 18”, and a friend who is a seasoned small engine technician picked it up looked it over and told me how awesome it is because it’s made by RedMax, with a Craftsman label on it. Made their first one in 1910. Engine says made in Sweden also. Cant wait to try out my new 291, nice review
I have one also and I have been cutting a 40 in oak tree up, it has been gaining power with each tank full of gas, although I am not impressed with the non adjustable oiler, 1 tank of fuel to 1/2 tank of bar oil isn't enough, although the paint on the bar hasn't burnt, I personally like more oil on my bar and chain.
Run the winter blend Stihl bar oil year round, keep an eye on the tank and you will see the flow rate increase. I also clean out the bar oil channel after every use and you should be good. Yeah, next Stihl I buy will have an adjustable oiler.
my ms290 is still running strong since oct.2006. all i run through it is synethtic premix and winter blend bar oil. change the air filter and spark plug every year. waiting for it to go kaput to by me a ms291
You did mention one thing users should be aware of. Stihl engines of all sizes and even different equipment can be finicky to start when warm but not hot. Not sure why guess they flood a bit but once running my MS290 cuts like a charm with the 16" bar. I like to "underbar" my saws, use the shortest recommended bar, as it seems to help with the power and I can cut from both sides when it's something really big which is not often on our property.
Good video. lol on sawing back and forth while that chainsaw is cutting. I have three MS291 and love them. Use stihl oil and moto mix fuel. Last a life time. And as far as a back up throw the craftsman away. No back up needed.
I never had a problem on my ms291... 50-50 mix if you are concerned, but a worst case scenario is having the oil flung off the bar if it is too thin.... that is the likely thing that will happen.. try it yourself with the proper season blend. I used mine in all conditions using the right season bar oil, never a problem.
This fall I ran a 50/50 bar oil mix and she ran just fine. No bar or chain burn up. Managed to cut up the rest of the wood that we cut down in the video you watched here. Thanks for watching!
Let the saw do the work. You don’t have to seesaw it back forth🤦🏻♂️ Gee how many times did you hit the ground to already full a chain on that little bit of wood
I've got an 028, 391 (which I'm going to sell), and a 661. I've got my eye on a 462 and 881. I also need to rebuild the carb on the 028, but I'm not too worried about it right now. It doesn't see much use, but I want to keep in running since it was my grandpa's saw.
My only complaint with my MS291 is the lack of oil on the bar. In no time the bar started smoking, that is definitely a design flaw in my opinion. Great video!
That see saw habit wears you out -no need to do it--even on the bottom side sawing up you do it--let the saw sit flat and go through -more teeth in contact with wood--learning curve-good video-stay safe
Good point. I didn’t have to do any cutting this winter so I don’t know but I would recommend a model with a manual oil flow control feature. Luckily, I have a 18” Craftsman chainsaw that has this feature so I would probably just use that one.
thats is interesting,, I live in CA outside of Sacramento and had this model for 4 years now using it constantly. Ive never had my bar burn up, that's even with me using an Alaskan mill with it. If people are burning their bar also tells me the chain may not be sharpened adequately and or the rakers are to high thus an individual has to push on the bar itself.
That saw is a beast! My Buddy & I started a BBQ / Firewood business & he has a new 291 & I have a new Poulan Pro 20" Tuned with an Oregon Series 70 Chisel Chain. I'm still bogging down with 50cc's but that 291 w/ a 20" bar is a Woodchuck! He's ripping through wood at the same time I am & he's doing 2 to my 1. I've Tuned my Poulan Pro to Rip but that 291 cutting Oak & Pecan Hardwoods is a beast. I'm buying the 291 now! We use ours daily for a few months now.
Yes if you can afford it get the ms261 stihl its MUCH LIGHTER 4.0HP Magnesium case Or Husqvarna 550xp MKII either will be $600 But that 291 will be over $500 out the door.
Buy a husky !!! I bought a brand new 291 yesterday and decided to run it this afternoon , followed the directions straight from the manual . Bought the correct mix stihl branded fuel and bar oil ( I’ve run an older 206 for 14 yrs ) spend the last 1.5hours trying to get the thing to start …. Should’ve bought the Husqvarna !!!!!!!
Don't religiously rely on the manual. Each and every tool has its own personality. For example I've always choke started all my small engines. I recently bought on sale an MS 250. Cold starting it with choke on flooded it every time. Finally after three back and forth trips to the dealer, the manager suggested I try starting it with the choke off. That's what worked. It started this morning after about five pulls. We'll see if it stays that way through the break-in period. This is the only small engine tool I've every used in my 40 years or so of experience that ever required the choke to be off when cold starting. That goes for mowers, weed whackers, hedge trimmers, a pole saw. They all required choking. Not this 250. So, keep an open mind and use the manual for guidance but your own experience in real-time use.
I got this saw and own many other saws. First off this saw is heavy for the power, lots of stihls like to flood, this one is even worst at flooding easy. I have the first version with the better cylinder and piston setup but its just a slow excellerating saw and is not impressive in any way. I think the ms261 is a much better saw at 2 pounds less with about as much power, the 261 is better but even that saw isn’t that strong in my opinion but weight to power is very good. Im a stihl guy but the new husky 550xp mark2 is awesome to run, limbing and bucking are all easily done, very fast and strong runners. I got a older 2012 ms291 but it’s definitely getting sold asap to some one who hasn’t ran anything better.
I have never flooded it and to be honest with you, it was another pro tree trimmer you tube channel and online reviews that sold me on the MS 291. And going from a cheaper Craftsman (that I still have and still runs like a champ) the Stihl felt like going from a beat up Camaro to a refined Porsche. Soooo smooth. My dad now has this saw and uses it quite a bit. As for me, if I get another Stihl, I will get something a bit more pro grade with a manual bar oiler control.
@@travisp11 hey buddy i owe you a apology, i tached the 291 and found it running really rich on the high end so was only hitting 11200 rpm! I retuned and now its a completely different saw as far as power, I think it will spank the 261 saw now! I guess I should have checked it out before bashing it.
@@davido6915 no worries man. Yeah, having a carb running lean or rich definitely affects performance. It is a pretty good saw but I still have to run winter blend bar oil year round to keep the bar adequately lubricated but otherwise it is a good saw!
For under $400 u San get an echo 590, which is a better saw. I for whatever reason you do want the 291 there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. It will cut wood. 590 has great adjustable oiler as well.
I fixed my ms291 bar with a new tungsten chain and heavy duty bar oil . No smoking or burning now cuts like a hot knife through butter . My Stihl dealer told me to do this , especially if you're cutting big dead trees.🤓🪚🌳
My dad got this chainsaw when I sold my house but I will let him know. I was surprised with how fast that bar and chain wore down after the first use. It runs great, though.
I bought the ms290 farm boss...this unit's predecessor. I've had it for almost ten years and cut at least 7 cords of wood every year with it...it just works...every time. No complaints about that saw so I hope this one would be the same. 2 hot tips for you never to forget. #1 Don't EVER put gas in ANY small engine that has ethanol in it. The second year I owned my 290 it wouldn't start...the ethanol in the regular gas I was running ate up the fuel filter and clogged the carb. I only use premium not ethanol gas now and have not had any issues in any of my small motor stuff. #2 for limbing dropped trees I use the carbide tipped chains. yes they are more expensive...i'd say double the cost...but well worth it. like I said I cut at least 7 cords a year and I am on my second year using the same chain...without ever having it sharpened. A regular 3/8" chain for the 20 bar is around $30...the same version in carbide is about $63...and you never have to sharpen them. I'm fairly sure that I will run out of adjustment on the tensioner before i'll need it sharpened. works like a champ!
Give us the Serial Number of the machine please.... I'm seriously thinking of this particular model but will NOT touch anything Xhinese made..... I'd also like to see if I could get the 'Quick chain tensioner' as I've used that on a 260C for 20yrs and its the best thing since sliced bread... I do not want to go back to side nut tensioning one bit.
Get yourself a chisel tooth chain and she'll cut like a hot knife through butter they also make carbon chains that lasts about ten times as long but don't quite go as fast as the chisel tooth
Right on! One thing about the pull starter, I don't put any pre tension on it. I just grip the starter and pull. If you give it any pull, stop and start back up again, it will be a bear to get started. You may or may not experience what I did with this saw.
I needed to maximize my time outdoors while I had the help that I did. I eventually picked up the Still sharpening tool/file that makes it easy to resharpen so that is what I now use.
When you’re out cutting it’s good to have a second chain you can just throw on instead of taking the time to sharpen it out there then when you’re done and you have the time sharpen both chains and you’re ready to go
I'm not a bug fan of the auto oiler so I use winter blend Stihl oil. That helps but if I bought another Stihl it would have a manual control bar oiler.
Check out the Oregon Powersharp chain sharpener. Its a gizmo you slap on the tip of the chain and bar then run your chainsaw for a few seconds and it automatically sharpens the chain like magic.
I can't imagine why anyone would put a 16" bar on that thing. If it's anything like the 290 it comes with 20". I'd go with 24" if I wasn't worried about being under powered, which is what some people tell me would happen.
Deyan Spaseski Personally, I wish my saw had an adjustable oiler on it so if you can a model with similar specs, for the same or less, get it. It seems like with Stihl, $50-$100 more only gets you a bit more cc's of engine displacement.
Yup, I know that now. At the time of filming it was only the 2nd time I had used the chainsaw and the first time the trees were way smaller so I didn't know any better.
@@briandreibelbis4959 no worries, I've seen many comments on my channel for people asking the same question and some have been kind and others, not so much. It's all good and thank you for watching!
Be really careful cutting logs that have other logs or limbs next to the tip of the bar, sumbitch with hit the tip of the saw and make it jump back at your face.
@@darrintraywick8042 Yup! I have to admit, after a few days of processing those damn trees I learned quite a bit about running a chainsaw. Either way, Im sold on Stihl for life.
I bought the ms291 . I used it , cut down 2 trees with it . I was digging into a black oak and by bar got hot chain hot pretty dull . I wasn’t even cutting an hour . At this point I realized it had no oil adjustment. SUCKS ! This makes a huge difference I’m sorry not trying to cut down your knowledge or say you don’t know what you’re talking about ... when going don’t have enough oil on the bar and chain it will cause way to much friction and dull your chain super fast. I bought a man extra chain. Same issue . I eventually took it back . I had 3 hours on the saw total. I would not recommend this saw to anyone . This Oiler they put in this saw is strictly to help go green and not use as much oil... bad design by and engineer that doesn’t cut down trees! The stihl dealer luckily let me get credit for the saw and let me trade it in for the ms261c ( oh man what a difference) Lighter , more horsepower, all around better features... with an OIL ADJUSTMENT. It actually throws oil the way it supposed to . Again the stihl people you talk to will tell you all day the ms291 , your bar don’t need that much oil . All I’m gonna say dig into some oak . Use the saw the way it’s designed to and it WILL NOT OIL THE BAR properly . If you don’t hit dirt , steel , Rock . You should be able to cut down a tree and your chain should still be very sharp.
If you use the saw outside a home owners special and use it to cut down trees for firewood or use it for work don’t buy the Ms291 . Get the pro series . It’s an extra 170 dollars . I know I’m saying it like it’s not that much money but your already spending $500 on a saw my as well make it worth it with no regrets . The 261c , it’s an amazing saw . It truly is .!
@@Stephen-vk3ej I used the winter blend bar oil and had no issues in this video. In the future, I will probably spend a bit more and get an adjustable oiler
@@travisp11 I used the winter grade oil myself ... idk seemed like the oil didn’t go into to hole in the bar . It ran down the side of the saw 🤷. If I did an oil test on the sidewalk it appeared to throw oil just not enough . It’s when you put the saw sideways or Horizontal . It’s seems like the oil pump isn’t strong enough . Idk . If your happy with it that’s great . It just blows my mind stihl would make everything else about the saw so great but not put an oil adjustment . It burns me actually . If you run your saw is their oil on the bar and chain ? If you touch you chain or bar you should have oil on your fingers . When I used that saw I’m not kidding I burned 4 tanks of gas before I needed to add oil
@@travisp11 just feel for softwoods that’s great . Drop an 16” oak . Start digging . Especially when you get into the stump . The bar and chain will smoke bad . If you keep going with a hot bar and chain you’ll burn up the clutch so fast . Me having knowledge of that I would give the saw rest , but you should be able to dig into hard wood . It’s got teeth on the saw for digging . It’s supposed to be better than a home owners special is all I’m saying
I really don’t know how you guys say it’s a small beast . Actually I bought one 2 years ago within two hours of working it died on me and the dealer found out that the piston was defected. They gave me another one after the service shop checked everything on the chain I got another one and within five hours of working it died no way to start it again then found out the engine was seized now the dealer is rebuilding the again on my extended warranty. Peace of crab not worth $459 at all . You just buying the name . This is my opinion after trying two of them.
Fair enough. It is possible that they had issues with our saw a few years ago. That can happen but mine has not had any problems at all and I just used it again a few weeks ago to cut up the remainder of the branches we cut down last summer.
malek abusalah switch to echo you won’t be dissapointed, for less you can get a pro saw thats made by shindawai. walbro carb and good quality parts. 5 year warranty, can’t go wrong!
malek abusalah almost sounds like you didn’t put any oil in with your gas! For a saw to die like that you would have to have run straight gasoline thru it or it was junk from the factory!!!
Unfortunately, these trees were already gone. They had a parasite infestation that we didn't know about. Good news is that all of the wood is being reused as firewood or building projects. I already miss what little shade they provided.
All I have is pro saws but a bad back so Im gonna sell them all jonsereds. 2253x2. 2252x2 2260x2 husq 545 1 reg 1 mkII 550xp mkII. Most have tsumura bars ready to rip. Have dolmar 6100 like new too. And others
G. D. Nice! Well, we sold our house and moved a few hours away and live in an apartment so my dad is using my 291 for firewood but if I we move into another house I will either go Husky or Stihl
A good saw but a bitch to start. If you use it every day its ok. If you need to restart after a while of no usage getting it to go is painful. I will trade ir in for a model that is easier to start.
Why? Why is that even necessary? I go over the specs, show footage of me cutting, footage of post cutting and a wrap up with my reaction after 12 hours of wood cutting. In all honestly, I didn't even think about it at the time. If you got nothing from this video I am sorry to hear that. The next time I do a power tool video I will be sure to show the start up procedure.
you're a dumbass bro.....he EXPLAINED how to start it.....literally everything except the "pulling part"......do you REALLY need to be shown how to Pull a saw? Seriously........???? You shouldn't operate a chainsaw dude.....go to a Dealer, they will Show you.
As a professional Tree surgeon I have used an MS 291 with a 16" 325 chain. I have felled Oak, Ash and 80' spruce trees, also snedding all day no problem. The weight is fine, by the way I'm 65.
Right on! I did downsize to an 18" after filming this video.
I love my MS 291. I use it always with a 20" full chisel chain. I recently cut down and cut up more than 20 crepe myrtles with a single chain, while sharpening it once during the whole process. Then I cut down a partially dead 35 foot maple with the same chain. It seems to be a very high compression, hard to pull on a cold start (actually any start) saw, but once you get the technique down, it starts every time and does not stall out when warmed up for a minute or so. It makes a great combination when used with the MS 250 to cut the smaller stuff.
@@jonesrick1 thanks for watching!
I purchased a 261 about 2 months ago and have cut about 4 cords of wood with it. This is an awesome machine that makes short work of anything 18 inches or smaller. I have a 20 inch bar with a yellow chain on it and it spits chunks while cutting like butter through seasoned oak wood. I went from a 302 echo to this and by the end of the day I felt no different in fatigue because the stihl does all the work . Very impressed except I paid over 600 from Ace hardware but it's a lifetime purchase for me . I recommend getting a tank/handle plate to protect the bottom of the saw . The 12 bucks or so can save you a lot of money and down time from a broken saw . Also a double dawg kit keeps your cuts straight and digs better when falling trees .
Glad it is working well for you! It is a great saw and is so smooth to use!
I have the MS 391 with standard 20" bar and Oregon brand sharpener. Had it since 2012 and have been happy with it. Good choice.
Andy Prariedog I've been hearing great things about the sharpener. I need to check it out. The saw itself is awesome. A bit heavy, but awesome.
Thank you, for a helpful review. Always good listening to other's whom use MS 291. Cheers.
Thanks for watching!
I'm a professional tree cutter in forestry, Been doing it for years and this saw was by far one of best saws I had throughout my years in forestry and still is. The 291 is a beast and a half
Kelly Ronaghan we love it!
Kelly Ronaghan thanks, i m not decide yet between Husqvarna Rancher same size, think its the 450
I've been running a Makita 14" for about 5 years and is a good saw for smaller branches. But just wasn't cutting it for the big logs. The motor power just wasn't there. So I just picked up a Stihl 291 16" today and did a couple runs through some of my bigger logs. Like cutting butter in comparison to my makita. Definatly worth it.
It is a very nice saw. I miss not having an manual bar oil control but it’s not a dealbreaker.
You can also use used motor oil. Been running that for almost a decade, cut MANY stringy, gooey, cottonwoods. Never replaced a bar. Also, I prune prize trees when not felling. I use vegetable oil for really nice yards. Doesn't kill grass, plants, or hurt things like coy ponds.
Which grade of oil do you use. I can see how that would work given the viscosity to bar oil is similar to a 5W30.
@@travisp11 the viscosity of used motor oil is less than it originally was so it really doesn't matter. But it flows nice. Use a pin or a needle to clean the oiler hole from time to time. If you cut up really gooey trees it can block them up.
@@nathanboyd7460 Gotcha! Thanks!
@@travisp11 you're welcome.
I've done that too, never have any problems. 👍
After watching this video I made up my mind after lots of thinking and deciding on what I wanted I decided to go out an buy this saw...I just bought it today an I hope to use it very soon I’m sure I’m gonna enjoy it since it is a Stihl product...thanks
I ran the heck out of it when I first got it and it ran like a champ. I used it a bit and she started right up. I know that that it is a but pricey but I only run the Stihl premix fuel through it
I just bought a 291 and can't wait to use it
I really like mine. Going on 3 to 4 years now. Stihl is worth the price in my opinion. Love my 130r weed wacker especially with a blade doing clean up. Used it alot around the farm. Best thing I did tho was go to the yellow chain. Man it cuts so much better.
My dad has mine now as I have moved and no longer need to mantain a property but it still runs like a champ.
I love my MS 291. No issues with oil. It needs to be filled at the same time as the gas.
Mine is running fine with no oil issues but I clean the bar oil flow holes after every use.
Same. Easy maintenance to get the best out of your saw bar and chain.
Exactly and I noticed many guys do not clean their bar holes and blame oiler... works perfect for me.
@@CowboyAxe I am always cautious about keeping the oiling channels cleaned
@@travisp11 Rule to follow, clean your saw after each use and inspect it... same here... and mine works amazing for hours every day for two years now.
I’ve got a yellow/black Craftsman 18”, and a friend who is a seasoned small engine technician picked it up looked it over and told me how awesome it is because it’s made by RedMax, with a Craftsman label on it. Made their first one in 1910. Engine says made in Sweden also. Cant wait to try out my new 291, nice review
Thanks for the watching!
I have one also and I have been cutting a 40 in oak tree up, it has been gaining power with each tank full of gas, although I am not impressed with the non adjustable oiler, 1 tank of fuel to 1/2 tank of bar oil isn't enough, although the paint on the bar hasn't burnt, I personally like more oil on my bar and chain.
Run the winter blend Stihl bar oil year round, keep an eye on the tank and you will see the flow rate increase. I also clean out the bar oil channel after every use and you should be good. Yeah, next Stihl I buy will have an adjustable oiler.
my ms290 is still running strong since oct.2006. all i run through it is synethtic premix and winter blend bar oil. change the air filter and spark plug every year. waiting for it to go kaput to by me a ms291
Right on!
You did mention one thing users should be aware of. Stihl engines of all sizes and even different equipment can be finicky to start when warm but not hot. Not sure why guess they flood a bit but once running my MS290 cuts like a charm with the 16" bar. I like to "underbar" my saws, use the shortest recommended bar, as it seems to help with the power and I can cut from both sides when it's something really big which is not often on our property.
Yeah, I went back to an 18" after doing all of my cutting. I think I had a 20 in this video. Either way, I like the shorter bar.
watch out if you "underbar" them you can over rev them
Just bought one 12-27 -18 love it paid 505$ cut 3trees today and made 1500$ dam good saw
Right on!!
It’s a great saw. Had mine 5 years still runs well. May not be the fastest but has plenty of power.
@@bencarter2334 yup! I sized down to an 18" bar but she runs like a champ!
@@travisp11 Run a 16 on mine most of the time its unstoppable!
@@bencarter2334 Yeah, I put an 18" bar after making this video and it definitely speeds things up a bit!
I have one, it has a problem of the chain stretching. Oiler is not adjustable.
Try running winter blend bar oil year round. That is what I do.
Good video. lol on sawing back and forth while that chainsaw is cutting. I have three MS291 and love them. Use stihl oil and moto mix fuel. Last a life time. And as far as a back up throw the craftsman away. No back up needed.
jeremyh172 yeah yeah. I know now that a sawing motion is not necessary
I never had a problem on my ms291... 50-50 mix if you are concerned, but a worst case scenario is having the oil flung off the bar if it is too thin.... that is the likely thing that will happen.. try it yourself with the proper season blend. I used mine in all conditions using the right season bar oil, never a problem.
This fall I ran a 50/50 bar oil mix and she ran just fine. No bar or chain burn up. Managed to cut up the rest of the wood that we cut down in the video you watched here. Thanks for watching!
Let the saw do the work. You don’t have to seesaw it back forth🤦🏻♂️
Gee how many times did you hit the ground to already full a chain on that little bit of wood
I have a 15yr old MS290 that has a fully adjustable oiler. Wonder why they would eliminate something like that.
Reduces chain drag and increases effeciency
@@travisp11 you sure about this? I'm pretty sure it's production cost wise cause their pro models have it
Good shit just upgraded from the MS250 thx to you!
We backed down to an 18” bar and blade and she runs even better. Can be a bit of a bear to start but once it is going she tears it up!
I've got an 028, 391 (which I'm going to sell), and a 661. I've got my eye on a 462 and 881. I also need to rebuild the carb on the 028, but I'm not too worried about it right now. It doesn't see much use, but I want to keep in running since it was my grandpa's saw.
Cool! They are great chainsaws!
My only complaint with my MS291 is the lack of oil on the bar. In no time the bar started smoking, that is definitely a design flaw in my opinion. Great video!
Run the winter blend oil year round. Mine did the same thing until I started running it. Thanks for watching!!
travisp11 some people blend the two for desired results
@@trevorclapham5571 Not a bad idea. I have had great luck running the winter blend in both winter and summer.
My GⓄⓄgle thank you for the information!
@@SteelologistI use a hacksaw blade
That see saw habit wears you out -no need to do it--even on the bottom side sawing up you do it--let the saw sit flat and go through -more teeth in contact with wood--learning curve-good video-stay safe
Yup…I’ve been reminded many a time about that since I filmed this video and yeah, just be patient, let the saw do the work and you will be impressed!
The oiler would be a deal breaker. If you have to run winter oil in the summer what oil do you run in the winter?
Good point. I didn’t have to do any cutting this winter so I don’t know but I would recommend a model with a manual oil flow control feature. Luckily, I have a 18” Craftsman chainsaw that has this feature so I would probably just use that one.
thats is interesting,, I live in CA outside of Sacramento and had this model for 4 years now using it constantly. Ive never had my bar burn up, that's even with me using an Alaskan mill with it. If people are burning their bar also tells me the chain may not be sharpened adequately and or the rakers are to high thus an individual has to push on the bar itself.
I've had mine since 2012 .gets a hiding good reliable saw just a little under powered....put a 20 inch bar on it....runs better with a 18
I agree!
That saw is a beast! My Buddy & I started a BBQ / Firewood business & he has a new 291 & I have a new Poulan Pro 20" Tuned with an Oregon Series 70 Chisel Chain. I'm still bogging down with 50cc's but that 291 w/ a 20" bar is a Woodchuck! He's ripping through wood at the same time I am & he's doing 2 to my 1. I've Tuned my Poulan Pro to Rip but that 291 cutting Oak & Pecan Hardwoods is a beast. I'm buying the 291 now! We use ours daily for a few months now.
Mike Hog A Nator Right on!
Yes if you can afford it get the ms261 stihl its MUCH LIGHTER 4.0HP Magnesium case Or Husqvarna 550xp MKII either will be $600 But that 291 will be over $500 out the door.
Buy a husky !!! I bought a brand new 291 yesterday and decided to run it this afternoon , followed the directions straight from the manual .
Bought the correct mix stihl branded fuel and bar oil ( I’ve run an older 206 for 14 yrs ) spend the last 1.5hours trying to get the thing to start ….
Should’ve bought the Husqvarna !!!!!!!
The key on starting it for me is just a single straight pull on the starter rope. No pre tension, just pull.
Don't religiously rely on the manual. Each and every tool has its own personality. For example I've always choke started all my small engines. I recently bought on sale an MS 250. Cold starting it with choke on flooded it every time. Finally after three back and forth trips to the dealer, the manager suggested I try starting it with the choke off. That's what worked. It started this morning after about five pulls. We'll see if it stays that way through the break-in period. This is the only small engine tool I've every used in my 40 years or so of experience that ever required the choke to be off when cold starting. That goes for mowers, weed whackers, hedge trimmers, a pole saw. They all required choking. Not this 250. So, keep an open mind and use the manual for guidance but your own experience in real-time use.
What kind of wood were you cutting
Elm
I got this saw and own many other saws. First off this saw is heavy for the power, lots of stihls like to flood, this one is even worst at flooding easy. I have the first version with the better cylinder and piston setup but its just a slow excellerating saw and is not impressive in any way. I think the ms261 is a much better saw at 2 pounds less with about as much power, the 261 is better but even that saw isn’t that strong in my opinion but weight to power is very good. Im a stihl guy but the new husky 550xp mark2 is awesome to run, limbing and bucking are all easily done, very fast and strong runners. I got a older 2012 ms291 but it’s definitely getting sold asap to some one who hasn’t ran anything better.
I have never flooded it and to be honest with you, it was another pro tree trimmer you tube channel and online reviews that sold me on the MS 291. And going from a cheaper Craftsman (that I still have and still runs like a champ) the Stihl felt like going from a beat up Camaro to a refined Porsche. Soooo smooth. My dad now has this saw and uses it quite a bit. As for me, if I get another Stihl, I will get something a bit more pro grade with a manual bar oiler control.
@@travisp11 hey buddy i owe you a apology, i tached the 291 and found it running really rich on the high end so was only hitting 11200 rpm! I retuned and now its a completely different saw as far as power, I think it will spank the 261 saw now! I guess I should have checked it out before bashing it.
@@davido6915 no worries man. Yeah, having a carb running lean or rich definitely affects performance. It is a pretty good saw but I still have to run winter blend bar oil year round to keep the bar adequately lubricated but otherwise it is a good saw!
For under $400 u San get an echo 590, which is a better saw. I for whatever reason you do want the 291 there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. It will cut wood. 590 has great adjustable oiler as well.
I’d consider going with something with and adjustable oiler in the future.
I fixed my ms291 bar with a new tungsten chain and heavy duty bar oil . No smoking or burning now cuts like a hot knife through butter . My Stihl dealer told me to do this , especially if you're cutting big dead trees.🤓🪚🌳
My dad got this chainsaw when I sold my house but I will let him know. I was surprised with how fast that bar and chain wore down after the first use. It runs great, though.
I bought the ms290 farm boss...this unit's predecessor. I've had it for almost ten years and cut at least 7 cords of wood every year with it...it just works...every time. No complaints about that saw so I hope this one would be the same. 2 hot tips for you never to forget. #1 Don't EVER put gas in ANY small engine that has ethanol in it. The second year I owned my 290 it wouldn't start...the ethanol in the regular gas I was running ate up the fuel filter and clogged the carb. I only use premium not ethanol gas now and have not had any issues in any of my small motor stuff. #2 for limbing dropped trees I use the carbide tipped chains. yes they are more expensive...i'd say double the cost...but well worth it. like I said I cut at least 7 cords a year and I am on my second year using the same chain...without ever having it sharpened. A regular 3/8" chain for the 20 bar is around $30...the same version in carbide is about $63...and you never have to sharpen them. I'm fairly sure that I will run out of adjustment on the tensioner before i'll need it sharpened. works like a champ!
Solid advice! Thanks!
What is the gauge size of your bar?
The chainsaw uses a .325 RM3 chain so I'm not sure exactly what the bar gauge size might be. In this video I was running a 20" bar.
I need a sharpener. How do I know wich one fits my stihl?
you can probably just bring your chain into your stihl dealer and they will be able to tell you
Give us the Serial Number of the machine please.... I'm seriously thinking of this particular model but will NOT touch anything Xhinese made..... I'd also like to see if I could get the 'Quick chain tensioner' as I've used that on a 260C for 20yrs and its the best thing since sliced bread... I do not want to go back to side nut tensioning one bit.
I unfortunately gave the saw back to my dad after I sold my house. I’m down to the old Craftsman now.
Thank you very much I help me God bless
Glad to help!
Get yourself a chisel tooth chain and she'll cut like a hot knife through butter they also make carbon chains that lasts about ten times as long but don't quite go as fast as the chisel tooth
If you get it in Australia, this saw is $999.00 AUD. that is $693 USD
That is about double what we pay here. It is an awesome saw and it was used heavily last June, July and August.
@@travisp11 I'm getting it tomorrow. Thanks for the upload.
@@aaronraynor8785 no problem! Have fun!
I purchased this Saw in CANADA 2 months ago..... Paid $728.00 including TAX.
I just bought the same saw I love it
Right on! One thing about the pull starter, I don't put any pre tension on it. I just grip the starter and pull. If you give it any pull, stop and start back up again, it will be a bear to get started. You may or may not experience what I did with this saw.
Why didnt you sharpen the first chain instead of using a second one
I needed to maximize my time outdoors while I had the help that I did. I eventually picked up the Still sharpening tool/file that makes it easy to resharpen so that is what I now use.
When you’re out cutting it’s good to have a second chain you can just throw on instead of taking the time to sharpen it out there then when you’re done and you have the time sharpen both chains and you’re ready to go
No way there is enough oil getting to the bar,that paint should last 30+ cords before paint starts chipping
I'm not a bug fan of the auto oiler so I use winter blend Stihl oil. That helps but if I bought another Stihl it would have a manual control bar oiler.
Check out the Oregon Powersharp chain sharpener. Its a gizmo you slap on the tip of the chain and bar then run your chainsaw for a few seconds and it automatically sharpens the chain like magic.
Stormin Norm G-Works I will do that!
I can't imagine why anyone would put a 16" bar on that thing. If it's anything like the 290 it comes with 20". I'd go with 24" if I wasn't worried about being under powered, which is what some people tell me would happen.
Changed the chain ?
I did after I finished off both trees. Invested in the sharpening tool shortly after and I use that now.
I will give it a try!!!
I just bought me one today !!!!
Big Bird78 Right on!! Enjoy!
I bought one today’s today!
Guys is it worth to pay more 50$ for 291 instead 271???
Deyan Spaseski Personally, I wish my saw had an adjustable oiler on it so if you can a model with similar specs, for the same or less, get it. It seems like with Stihl, $50-$100 more only gets you a bit more cc's of engine displacement.
Get the professional chain (yellow link) cuts way faster.
I haven't tried that one because it isn't the low kickback model but I may need to give it a try.
@@travisp11 Honestly never a hint of kickback with mine.
@@montefiveforty1 Cool!
Good morning!! Just took down our's last week, be safe!!
weedXD38 no limbs lost so far!
Why the sawing motion? Let the saw do the work.
Yup, I know that now. At the time of filming it was only the 2nd time I had used the chainsaw and the first time the trees were way smaller so I didn't know any better.
@@travisp11 I was just wondering, not trying to call you out bud.
@@briandreibelbis4959 no worries, I've seen many comments on my channel for people asking the same question and some have been kind and others, not so much. It's all good and thank you for watching!
Be really careful cutting logs that have other logs or limbs next to the tip of the bar, sumbitch with hit the tip of the saw and make it jump back at your face.
That is solid advice and thank you!
There $1500 here in Australia brand-new..
Ouch! Yeah, they run around $450 USD over here. Definitely worth it!
Pull the other leg, they're only $1099 rrp and you'll normally get a spare chain and chainsaw case thrown in
I’ll see you one for 500 plus shipping lol
Hey buddy that's a chainsaw not a hand saw you don't have to work it back and forth
Yup, I didn’t realize that before. For some reason I thought it would help but I know now that it doesn’t.
@@travisp11 lol just put it in the wood and let it eat, that's one of those things people do and don't even realize there doing it
@@darrintraywick8042 Yup! I have to admit, after a few days of processing those damn trees I learned quite a bit about running a chainsaw. Either way, Im sold on Stihl for life.
The thought process of sawing back and forth with a chain saw baffles me. WOW.
I want one!
It's a sweet-looking piece of machine
Taurus Pt111 G2 She is running like a champ!
Restricted saw but good for beginners 👌
I bought the ms291 . I used it , cut down 2 trees with it . I was digging into a black oak and by bar got hot chain hot pretty dull . I wasn’t even cutting an hour . At this point I realized it had no oil adjustment. SUCKS ! This makes a huge difference I’m sorry not trying to cut down your knowledge or say you don’t know what you’re talking about ... when going don’t have enough oil on the bar and chain it will cause way to much friction and dull your chain super fast. I bought a man extra chain. Same issue . I eventually took it back . I had 3 hours on the saw total. I would not recommend this saw to anyone . This Oiler they put in this saw is strictly to help go green and not use as much oil... bad design by and engineer that doesn’t cut down trees! The stihl dealer luckily let me get credit for the saw and let me trade it in for the ms261c ( oh man what a difference)
Lighter , more horsepower, all around better features... with an OIL ADJUSTMENT. It actually throws oil the way it supposed to . Again the stihl people you talk to will tell you all day the ms291 , your bar don’t need that much oil . All I’m gonna say dig into some oak . Use the saw the way it’s designed to and it WILL NOT OIL THE BAR properly . If you don’t hit dirt , steel , Rock . You should be able to cut down a tree and your chain should still be very sharp.
If you use the saw outside a home owners special and use it to cut down trees for firewood or use it for work don’t buy the Ms291 . Get the pro series . It’s an extra 170 dollars . I know I’m saying it like it’s not that much money but your already spending $500 on a saw my as well make it worth it with no regrets . The 261c , it’s an amazing saw . It truly is .!
@@Stephen-vk3ej I used the winter blend bar oil and had no issues in this video. In the future, I will probably spend a bit more and get an adjustable oiler
@@travisp11 I used the winter grade oil myself ... idk seemed like the oil didn’t go into to hole in the bar . It ran down the side of the saw 🤷. If I did an oil test on the sidewalk it appeared to throw oil just not enough . It’s when you put the saw sideways or Horizontal . It’s seems like the oil pump isn’t strong enough . Idk . If your happy with it that’s great . It just blows my mind stihl would make everything else about the saw so great but not put an oil adjustment . It burns me actually . If you run your saw is their oil on the bar and chain ? If you touch you chain or bar you should have oil on your fingers . When I used that saw I’m not kidding I burned 4 tanks of gas before I needed to add oil
@@travisp11 just feel for softwoods that’s great . Drop an 16” oak . Start digging . Especially when you get into the stump . The bar and chain will smoke bad . If you keep going with a hot bar and chain you’ll burn up the clutch so fast . Me having knowledge of that I would give the saw rest , but you should be able to dig into hard wood . It’s got teeth on the saw for digging . It’s supposed to be better than a home owners special is all I’m saying
@@Stephen-vk3ej fair enough.
Just seem to have to many little problems for a chainsaw with that high of cost.
I would recommend one with an adjustable oiler if possible.
The MS291 DOES NOT come with the Compensating carb!!
Ok
I just took my info from the Stihl website so it may be wrong.
Run the RS chains then it’ll really rip.
You need to dog in and cut all the boot motion dosen't help nice saw
Yup. I agree and thank you for watching.
What a coiincidence, for a guy wanted to trade me this same model chainsaw for my go kart. I personally am a big fan of Stihl and Echo chainsaws.
slhines7 I like it so far. My old Craftsman is a good saw but the Stihl is so unbelievably smooth.
Awesome and I'm sure that it will last at least 20+ years like all mine have.
slhines7 good to know! Let's hope so!!
You should be all good, especially if you use ethanol free mixed gas.
slhines7 Yup. I only run Motomix from Stihl. It's pricey but lasts longer I can keep it around for emergencies.
6:45 it’s not a butter knife 😂😂😂
True
Nice review and info....Nice chainsaw....Good stuff...
Scott F. Thanks!
If you have ever rebuilt one of these you will want a 261 or 362.
JGBLADES I like mine but would like to try a different model.
@@travisp11You don't want to try mine its all hopped up now. You would never let go. lol
That's some dynamite firewood right buddy, that will heat you home very nicely. Good stuff!
Kelly Ronaghan our fireplace loves it!
I really don’t know how you guys say it’s a small beast . Actually I bought one 2 years ago within two hours of working it died on me and the dealer found out that the piston was defected. They gave me another one after the service shop checked everything on the chain I got another one and within five hours of working it died no way to start it again then found out the engine was seized now the dealer is rebuilding the again on my extended warranty. Peace of crab not worth $459 at all . You just buying the name . This is my opinion after trying two of them.
Fair enough. It is possible that they had issues with our saw a few years ago. That can happen but mine has not had any problems at all and I just used it again a few weeks ago to cut up the remainder of the branches we cut down last summer.
malek abusalah switch to echo you won’t be dissapointed, for less you can get a pro saw thats made by shindawai. walbro carb and good quality parts. 5 year warranty, can’t go wrong!
malek abusalah almost sounds like you didn’t put any oil in with your gas! For a saw to die like that you would have to have run straight gasoline thru it or it was junk from the factory!!!
malek abusalah Sounds like the problem was the operator. 2 saws in 7 hours.... you should mix the fuel properly.
Careful no tree hungers catch you buddy
Unfortunately, these trees were already gone. They had a parasite infestation that we didn't know about. Good news is that all of the wood is being reused as firewood or building projects. I already miss what little shade they provided.
travisp11 damn buddy well you could always plant one or two in there place
NightWolfe I'd love to but the roots from the old trees broke through the lines for the underground sprinklers.
travisp11 that sucks
Looks like the first time you ever ran a chain saw...or whoever that kid cuttin was...
Thanks! It basically was!
Hehehe, 450 dollars, try 520
It was cheaper 4-5 years ago. Prices on everything have gone up.
Sweet chainsaw
Jeremy Scharba Thanks!
If you can swing it get the 261 more power full pro saw and MUCH lighter!!!!
G. D. If I ever buy another it will be a higher end Stihl. I love the 291 but more power and less weight is always appreciated!
I dont have any stihl saws. Dealers around me suck. Not even free chain. And warranty not in their vocabulary
I think the 291 is just too heavy but that also helps on bucking
All I have is pro saws but a bad back so Im gonna sell them all jonsereds. 2253x2. 2252x2 2260x2 husq 545 1 reg 1 mkII 550xp mkII. Most have tsumura bars ready to rip. Have dolmar 6100 like new too. And others
G. D. Nice! Well, we sold our house and moved a few hours away and live in an apartment so my dad is using my 291 for firewood but if I we move into another house I will either go Husky or Stihl
8:30 .. YOU CHANGE THE CHAIN OUT 😮 WTF
I did
That saw will drop them and cut both of those trees.
Yup. She ran like a champ. Ran it hard for about a week off and on cutting wood.
Cool saw man! Rip it up!!
RowCall 219 She is running great!
Rookie
Absolutely but hey, we all gotta start somewhere, right?
Get your Paul Bunyan on homie!
Stormin Norm G-Works Right on!!
So cheap where you are. It costs almost $1,000.00 here!
$1100 for the model stated, the ms 291 cbe is $1200 in Melbourne Australia
Heck no! Don't run Stihl oil! Buy premium gas with no ethanol, and mix your own gas/oil!
Stihl pre mix always ran good for me.
Nnnnooo Travis has gone chainsaw on us.....
Mad Sexy .45 acp Still trying to figure out an easy way to mount it to the M4!
travisp11 very easy . Use metal straps or some rod iron and presto .
Mad Sexy .45 acp Yes! Still waiting for Magpul to come out with the M- Lok version, LOL!
travisp11 lol
A good saw but a bitch to start. If you use it every day its ok. If you need to restart after a while of no usage getting it to go is painful. I will trade ir in for a model that is easier to start.
I do agree with you. It’s crazy how tough it is to pull the starter rope. If I get another one I will pick up a more professional model.
wow i cut more then that in one day with my ms261
OK. Well, I only had two trees to cut and there are better models of Stihl out there. This video is just a basic over view and test of the model.
Not showing you starting it makes your review worthless
Why? Why is that even necessary? I go over the specs, show footage of me cutting, footage of post cutting and a wrap up with my reaction after 12 hours of wood cutting. In all honestly, I didn't even think about it at the time. If you got nothing from this video I am sorry to hear that. The next time I do a power tool video I will be sure to show the start up procedure.
@@travisp11 the primary concern with chainsaws for users is starting them reliably and easily
@@fitz3137 Fair enough.
you're a dumbass bro.....he EXPLAINED how to start it.....literally everything except the "pulling part"......do you REALLY need to be shown how to Pull a saw? Seriously........???? You shouldn't operate a chainsaw dude.....go to a Dealer, they will Show you.
Does anybody on UA-cam know how to use a freaking chainsaw
I am not a chainsaw pro. I get it now. You dont have to see saw it, just plant the blade and let it do its thing.