DRYWALL MESH TAPE, WHY IT FAILS
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Drywall Mesh Tape FAILS ONLY IF YOU PUT IT ON WRONG. Learn why. I've installed over 500 rolls of mesh tape with no failures. Open the Description RIGHT BELOW this video for more details.
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Excellent video. May I add, as a Professional Painter, the other reasons for mesh tape failure include whomever made the repair did not sand the surface before applying the tape, although it's self sticking, it needs a "bite", specially on surfaces with a sheen. The other big reason I see it fail is the crack was not "V'd" out, using either a razor knife or the sharp end of your 5in1, slightly gouge the crack so the mud had something to bite into. Thanks for all your knowledge.
good comment thanks for the tips
I use mesh tape on a job 35 years ago and it's still not cracking not failing and it was my first mud job ever. I even sprayed the ceiling with popcorn and it's all good except for moisture in the kitchen got to some of it. It's not rocket science but listen to this guy he knows what he's talking about. Great video thank you sir. PS maybe I just got lucky LOL
Always hot mud. Never had a failure since I figured that out. Thanks TKG
What fast setting speed 5 minute 20 minute 40 minute longer. ?? Thanks
Any but for novices stick with 45-90
@@ThatKiltedGuyDIY ok. Good to know. Thanks
I must be living on a different planet. I've been using mesh with bucket mud for years and have almost never seen a problem; it was usually on my own property or at a building I maintained, so I would have seen it. Once in a while, if a crack already has a history of movement, I'll coat the mesh with paint, caulk or glue before mudding it, but that didn't happen often. Maybe it's because I'm just using a knife or trowel, not one of those box things on a pole. I have seen paper tape fail more than mesh, usually peeling off the wall because someone used too little mud.
PS: Looking at the other comments, it occurs to me that pre-filling might be the reason I've had so little trouble with the combination. Also, I have a habit of tucking the mesh into the gap a little if it's more than maybe 1/8", then filling the valley on the next coat.
I agree. This and other videos get me scratching my head even though I have done thousands of feet of mesh tape with bucket mud. I never had any cracking problem. Am I missing something here?
The thing is, it’s kind of like speeding 20 miles an hour over the speed limit, you’ll get away with it for a long time and then one day, Bam. Just go read the manufacturers website and you will see they absolutely recommend against regular mud and mesh. And I myself have had it fail but then I’ve been installed over 500 rolls of it. Thanks
@@ThatKiltedGuyDIY Did you take down my reply?
Once again, the Lowe's Home Improvement instructional video simply says to apply pre-mixed joint compound. Fast setting goes unrecommended.
"PatchPro" product info says: "Apply a thin coat of all purpose joint compound over the Patch Pro drywall mesh tape. Let dry 24 hours. Sand to smooth finish. If necessary, apply a second coat of compound. Let dry 24 hours. Sand to smooth finish. To avoid cracking or shrinking, use only fast setting compound." While recommended, it is a written as a tag on, and clearly there is no hard, fast rule. But sure, it is best.
On the "ProForm" website, there is no indication against applying ready made, all purpose joint compound to mesh tape.
The question seems principally to do with surface area being porous, and needing to apply a very thin coat first round (and perhaps being certain to apply the tape well). When doing extensive lengths of seams (as opposed to patch jobs), using quick set requires another hand to keep up with mixing and constant cleaning to keep the mud moving smoothly.
If you guys would watch my whole videos and not skip so much, you would see that at two minutes and 10 seconds of this video I provided proof that the manufacture of the mesh tape says you must use fast setting joint compound. And every manufacture of mesh tape says the same thing. I think they know more about how to apply it correctly than any of these other sources you’re quoting.
Relying on Lowes for accurate Drywall information is like asking your two year old because they put out some of the worst information out there. Lowes is out to sell your products and that’s it.
And as I’ve explained before, I have put on well over 500 rolls of mesh tape in my life and the only time I had failures was when I didn’t use fast setting joint compound.
:)...You took the words right out of my - fingers?...:)...I agree, with both points and like you stated; I've seen way more paper tape failures...
Thank you so much for all your videos! I just finished my entire garage. I still suck but I suck a whole lot less than I used to and my new level of sucky-ness can be corrected through sanding. I sure appreciate your (and others) videos turning me on to ‘hot mud’ and flat boxes and how to apply pressure to one side of the blade to feather the mud to minimize sanding. You rock!
Good advised.I knew that long time ago and had been telling my other drywall finishers who are using regular joint compound for the first application on the mesh tapes but to no avail. So eventually hairline cracks will show up after the painting is done. The excuse is foundation or something else shifting. I had many arguments with my other drywall finishers because of this one issue.I have been doing this work since 1975.
Well that explains a lot, never knew that there was that big of a difference. Thanks
I've been finishing homes with mesh tape for over 15 years. Always fully coated the joints with pure durabond. Never had a flat joint crack, never had a butt joint crack that would have not craked with paper (structure weakness)
Thanks for the info. I have always (mostly) used mesh with 90 and 45 just by coincidence. Who'd a thought? Read the directions. Thanks for your straight talk.
Always appreciate your videos. You helped me finish a bathroom 3 years ago. Still looks great!
Awesome!
You are absolutely correct. I've seen this dozens of times myself. I have never had a seam crack if I use mesh tape and durabond. However if I try to tape a seam with regular compound it cracks every time. Also makes a pure metal corner bead and they will never crack. keep telling people how to do it the right way
so you recommend to use durabond on all tape repairs?
Only if you use mesh tape. Then it’s REQUIRED. For other tape it’s not required.
@@ThatKiltedGuyDIY is that the 1st coat only?
Yes, only for The bedding coat.
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Ive never used paper, only mesh. All purpose straight out of box for 1st coat, topping after. Zero cracks.
Interior plastering is so different from country to country , I'm in New Zealand and most plasterers use boxes , taping machines etc, only good if the fixing is on point , still like doing stuff by hand 💯
Me too, the hand tools get you close to the work. It's too easy to miss important details when you've got a box on the end of a pole.
Thanks for that information!!! I did one house with mesh tape and the only cracks I had was thin lines on the but joints never used it after.. it’s was the compound ….
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
There are alot of diy-ers out there that go to the big box stores and pick up the mesh tape and all-purpose mud because they think it's going to be super strong repair and last forever.
Awesome job keep up the great work thank you thank you for sharing all your years of experience☺☺☺
Trying this on a job now. The owner got paranoid about me using mesh tape ( I use paper on inside corners and ceiling corners of course) and I was using all purpose. I am reluctant to use paper tape because it is too time consuming and if you don't do it right it has its own set of problems (bubbles and tears)
I watched this video, and told the owner to pick up some 90 minute easy sand durabond, and I will be using that going forward on this project. The other advantage of mesh is that you can do the butt and factory joints at the same time, and now, using the durabond, I can do the second coat on the same work day. Thanks man!!
That’s a better choice for sure. And actually easy sand hot mud is different than Durabond. But everybody uses the term Durabond and it’s actually a much harder to sand form of hot mud.
@@ThatKiltedGuyDIY but the 90 min easy sand will do the trick as far as being crack resistent yes? I will do follow up coats with plus 3
So glad to have found your vids! I used the hot mud after home owner gave me the all purpose stuff. Glad our project turned out well due to you sharing your wisdom
We are running into ceiling repairs that are failing when using 5 minute hotmud and mesh tape on a knock down ceiling. It seems to always be a bad butt joint that cracks in a hallway or tray. The original paper tape is solid, but the joint cracked. When repairing the paper tape is checked for bubbling/adhesion and seems to be fine.
So the area is scraped, any loose material is removed (usually very little will come off). Check drywall to see if it needs screws to prevent any movement. Run mesh and 5 minute, let it set and then pull a tight coat with regular wait a bit and shoot the knock down.
In 2 instances recently, the entire repair has failed. Essentially, the mesh tape/hot mud has delaminated and can be scraped off with little effort. The original tape/knockdown is still stuck tight.
I have done hundreds of patches/crack ceiling repairs, and this is the first time im seeing this. Everyone is kind of stumped. The two head guys have over 25 years experience each and they are scratching their heads.
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I use mesh tape quite a bit with all purpose mud but I don't stick it to the wall and mud over it. I bed it, skim coat over seam and then mesh and top coat haven't had any cracks yet I use because rolls of mesh is lighter than rolls of paper tape
And I know in my case it wasn't the mesh tapes fault! It was the operator! Which was yours truly! I remember my old boss told me once! And this wasn't in this particular field! But it works pretty well for everything! I can't remember what it was he was doing in, particular? But I told him after he was done and it worked really well! I said wow your pretty smart! And he said it's not that I'm necessarily smarter than anyone! I just have more experience than some! Which made a lot of sense to me!
I'm one of those handymen that used all purpose and mesh tape for a job, but it worked pretty well, been ten years and still no cracks.
Other than that I've been using paper tape.
Not sure what the difference is on that job, why it didn't fail, but thanks for the tip, if I do any more drywall I'll be sure to get some 20min mud.
It doesn't fail every time but failing at all is not good
I have used bucket mud plenty times and never had a fail. Thanks for the video. Your advice makes sense so I think I will count my blessings and change my ways.
I can vouch for this theory, I have also used all purpose with mesh tape in my own house and had it fail a year later.
With that said, I am not sure I would even bother trying it again with quick setting mud if I have the option to use paper tape.
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I just had a job where I am doing the bathroom and utility room and the guy who is texturing the rest of the house and patching in the ceiling said that he won't texture the bathroom I'm doing Because I'm using mesh tape and he said it always cracks. I always use setting hot mud to embed my tape but it was interesting to hear him bemoan mesh tape as the devil.
There’s a lot of that but I’ve used it thousands of times with no problems. It’s technique, not materials
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Went from paper to fiber fusion. Love both……. The fiber fusion was a game changer. never used mesh.
The reason why is bc all purpose shrinks and hot mud expands slightly. It won’t shrink. Great video!
Hot mud actually does shrink slightly. The faster the hot mud the less it shrinks because it sets up before it has time too. Check out this video ua-cam.com/video/vRKrSm2aHuQ/v-deo.html
Thank you learning everyday.
I have always used the screen tape with the fast setting easysand mud compound and I have never had any problem with it.
And you are right using regular compound with screen tape will let a crack show through.
I don't have the specialty tools so I like applying the self adhesive screen tape first before applying the quick set mix
I always use 3m corner bead spray adhesive to all my mesh tape... Mesh tape doesn't stick well to mudded surfaces..66 glue works. Zero problems bed with any speed mud you desire.... always works...
Love your videos and explanations. What do you think about this product: Rapid Set 25 lbs. One Pass Wall Repair and Powder Joint Compound? I'm repairing drywall after removing a 7" backsplash and I have an area in a corner behind the sink that has a pretty deep chunk missing. Because of the faucets I can't really get back there easily to cut out and replace the drywall so I was hoping to fill it. Also, I'm guessing that since it is Rapid Set it can be used successfully over mesh tape.
I did a quick repair of a garage ceiling using paper tape (ran out of mesh) and hot mud. What a mess. Fortunately, it was only about 24' of poor repair! (But, it was the ceiling which is always harder for me 'cause I'm gettin' old 'n can't hold sheetrock up over my head like I used to.)
Been using mash type since I started mudding most the time all I use is 20 mix most guys that been mudding longer then me cant keep up with 20mix I nver had no problems useing mash type
I realize you have 30+ yrs. In the trade.
I started in the trade in 1970 I've never stopped to count the number of yrs I've put in
What I wanted to say is that the company I worked with back when. Had a mash tape company rep. Come onto the job we were working on. I still remember the day. Anyway he brought a number of rolls of mesh. He actually had a mini bazooka to apply the mesh. We never hada issue with the mesh. If you applied it correctly. Are first coat was always with hot mud. We used mesh on a 5 story nursing home. With no issue. We even used it on the angles.
Steve
Albuquerque, NM
hey Steve, I have a UA-cam friend who has a very successful high-rise remodeling business and he said code requires mesh tape in the high-rises and they never have problems with it. By the way I lived in Albuquerque for several years, and Tijeras up the hill, and Los Lunas down the road. I was stationed at Kirtland Air Force Base for several years in the air National Guard.
Green lid - all purpose joint compound - has adhesives/glue inside it... If your drywall seams or cracks are reasonably tight and touching green lid and paper tape the first coat... It's got the glue in it and meant to be the base coat thats meant to stick to the surface it's being applied to the best... Now any cracks a 1/4 inch or wider lay the quick set mud in to fill them and once dry use the green lid to tape coat the cracks... Then green lid and or quick set the 2nd float coat... Then blue lid [easy sanding] for the 3rd or final float coat... In the old days of drywall [back in the 70's] the powdered bag quick set compound was mainly used for the corner bead areas... They'd slap on a coat of green [glue] then the powdered quick set and finish off with the blue lid... If people would use the mud in the correct way they'd not have tape fails or cracks appearing...
Great tip for B General in NorCal. Thanks
I was taught to always use hard mud over mesh tape..5 20 45 90 210 bag muds is what's needed.
Yep. Hot mud
@@ThatKiltedGuyDIY many times I've meshed my flats and butts. Filled them with 210, and, skimmed them out with 12 box. Butts I'd skim by hand. Paper taping with all purpose my inside corners.
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Thank you. Guy
Well, my experience so far is this is true because I am back not even a year later fixing cracks again. The first time I used all purpose joint compound. Second time around I am using 45 minute mud. Hoping for a more lasting result.
I always use the 45 set. 20 set you gotta move like a raped ape. I just finished a job repairing cracks that ended up turning into big holes. It's all solid now.
yeah for those not super experienced, I recommend 45 minutes. But I can actually spread a whole pan of five minute mud if it’s just on one repair, but then I’ve probably mixed up 10,000 pounds of hot mud, LOL. But I use a lot of 20 minute too. Only time I use 45 is if I'm mixing half a bucket or something.
I use FibaFuse for my repairs. It’s better then the mesh tape and paper tape in my opinion. But you better use some gloves and long sleeves with it.
Thanks you just saved me from making a huge mistake.
I switched to strictly paper tape 5 years ago, because of seeing so many failed mesh tape repairs. I have even seen it fail where I myself used it (with hot mud). It gets a hairline crack over time. It takes a few years to happen, but it certainly happens.
Hmm after installing over 500 rolls of mesh (I’ve done nothing but repairs for overall 20 years) I’ve only had ONE that cracked later. Most of the cracks I’ve fixed had paper tape on them. I once removed the popcorn ceiling on a very large open concept living room/kitchen area including skylights and I found over 90 feet of cracks. I fixed them and came back three years later to do something else and not one of them had cracked. I think Prep is key.
Been doing drywall my whole life never liked mesh tape hard to fold for corners and not durable have fixed many cracks where mesh tape was used paper tape much better for all new work and repairs I’m 61 years old been in drywall work since I was 16
I first walked on stilts in 1969 spotting nails. I’m also 61. It’s all about technique. I’ve never had one problem with the work I’ve done using mesh tape in all those years. I’ve installed at least 500 rolls of mesh tape in that time. But it’s only good for repairs
Always good advice thank you very much
Regular joint compound = Ready mix compound. Use Fast Setting type aka hot mud for mesh tape. I had no problems when I use fast setting - no cracks ever. Sometimes I embed the mesh tape in a layer of fast setting compound even though the instructions say otherwise. I had no issues.
actually you have that backwards. The instructions do say to use fast setting joint compound with mesh tape to bed it.
@@ThatKiltedGuyDIY The Fibatape brand says no prelayer of compound is required.
I miss read what you were saying. Yes you can just stick the mesh tape to the wall and put a coat of fast setting joint compound over it.
There’s a reason to this
The mesh has a very weak glue on it. Just enough to hold it in place.
Example. Many times you put it up and 1 min later it’s falling down.
Regular mud is a slow dry and if you put to much it cracks. Mesh tape and regular mud it shrinks just enough to pull mesh off not all the time though.
Hot mud doesn’t give it the chance to move and hot mud is completely different then reg mud.
Now here’s a trick.
3m makes a great spray product
Spray glue. Put it on then mesh. Then regular mud and it won’t fail.
Corners. Staple on then mesh or paper and hot mud.
Reason. Hot mud is dam near cement and corners take a beating.
Yes it’s a extra step. But you’ll never have a issue
Thanks for the video. Of course I found your channel after I just finished taping some joints with mesh and USG All Purpose compound, so I imagine I'll have cracks tomorrow. How do you recommend I repair them? Thanks for helping take the mystery out of drywall repairs.
It doesn't always crack so wait and see
@@ThatKiltedGuyDIY Lol. Well, I saw an earlier comment recommending to rip it out, so it's all out now. The wife is going to think I lost my mind when she wakes tomorrow. Thanks for the quick reply.
That's the best idea. I was trying too save you the effort
I did 3 new house I love it
Good advice, been doing that for years.......
I always “bed” the mesh tape in the compound-> drywall-compound-mesh-compound
Oh no! I just started pulling the strips off of my doublewide and am using mesh tape. I'm using a light weight compound with the tape and plan to go back with an all purpose compound. I haven't had any cracks yet. Should I keep doing what I'm doing?
Sometimes you get lucky so keep going but try to use different tape under all purpose from now on
Thanks for the tip.
Lately anytime we do a remodel and if it's not too much to tape we just mesh tape it all and stripe it all in real quick with quickset and once it sets up we float it in with light mud and we've never had a single issue with it, we've made the mistake before many times doing it all with regular mud and some joints eventually crack out but hey we're tape and bedders and we know how to fix it fast.
My drywall job turned out perfect until the sun went down and you can see shadows and it looks like crap! Can it be fixed even after painting? I was so excited and thought I did a good job
Yes. Sand it well so the new mud sticks well. Then do like in this video Drywall Repair Fail. This was BAD! And it wasn't drywall? ua-cam.com/video/0pazSTR2jqc/v-deo.html
Luckily, I have never used regular mud over mesh tape. It has always been small patches and those patches got 45 minute mud.
Thanks for the heads up. I guess the regular mud dries so slowly that moisture gets between the mesh and wall causing it to release, huh?,
I think it's just weaker mostly. I think mesh needs the harder mud to work right
But not 100% sure
Use the green lid and the train track cracks will never stop that is what we always say I made a lot of money fixing that mistake others have made
Sweet dealio kilty guy
Do you have a video about Plaster De Paris? And when to used it or what the difference are with hot mud, like the 20mins?. Thanks.
Never had a reason to use it, so I don't
Thanks I'm too late
This just happened to me after covering up popcorn ceiling...
Do you have video for squeaky floor and how to put sheetrock on bedroom wall
Not yet
Has to be setting compound. Never bed it with regular joint compound.
Well now i know i did it wrong! So what do i do? I have fiberglass tape with crack in the middle now. You really cant dig fiberglass tape out.
If it’s painted and solid, except for the crack, just resecure it with screws and re-tape it like a cracked ceiling joint. ua-cam.com/video/6ZIVR_fMFJI/v-deo.html
Always amazing love your vudios!
Thank you so much!
I always use mesh tape and 45 mud
The Handyman..... Lmao, I've seen them advertising plumbing and electrical and that's actually against the law!! I'm an electrical contractor that dabbles with everything for my own needs
Yep, not alot of people know that.
Thank u sir!
You are welcome
I used mesh with 5 min mud I never have a problem butt I use paper on butt joints every time tho.
So can you use fast setting for the second coat over the mesh tape?
You can use it all you want. I often use it for every coat except a final really thin coat. And that’s partly because it’s easier to spread and sand.
Thanks!
I made the mistake of using mesh tape with all purpose mud. I have cracks. Do I need to remove the mesh tape from the wall to repair the joint? Do you have a video on how to fix this?
Peel off the part that cracked and redo it right. If its hard to peel wet it first. A cheaper trick I pulled off once, was to put a heavy bead of caulking over the crack if it’s not too long, and flatten it out nearly flat with a putty knife, let it dry, and then coat over that with a 12 inch knife and I found out that two years later it’s still hadn’t cracked again.
What's the best way to repair a mesh tape crack with a knock down finish?
Like this ua-cam.com/video/tROm2mI3cKo/v-deo.html
Can you just use hot mud for the whole repair? Second coat also?
Thanks for any advice
yes you can, but is more hard to sand it
I do it all the time but you have to be able to put it on flat and level and not need to sand it otherwise you have to let it dry completely and then it’s really hard to sand.
@@JuanMartinez-do3fr thanks for helping
@@ThatKiltedGuyDIY thanks for the videos and the advice
Good stuff.
What do you think of Fibafuse Max or Fibatape Extra Strength for plaster crack repair?
Seems extra strong but I have very little experience with it
I like it on plaster.... I've had a few plaster repair jobs I've used it on.... With the random directional type mesh it is very strong. I'm up here in Maine, we have a lot of very bad old plaster. A lot of times It's so bad that I talk people into replacing it with drywall, unless they have fancy round walls and corners, I always talk them into preserving the fancy round stuff. It's hard to repair but so worth it to keep those very unique plaster features that you just don't see in modern houses.
I did one job where all the angles on the vaulted ceilings were the beautiful tight radius corners.... I repaired all the ceilings and we replaced all the walls with drywall, tore it all out lath and all, did it right. Another house had this one huge round wall right in middle of the living room. I talked them into preserving the one wall, the rest of the house totally gutted and replaced with drywall.
@@kennethwilliams2738 Which one is your favorite and what is your process?
@@jlarson69 I've never tried fibafuse, I used the extra strength brown tape. I opened up the cracks and removed anything that was loose, I filled it with setting compound, covered it all tithe extra strength tape, coated it and skimmed the entire job twice. One skim in 2 perpendicular directions. It was on plaster ceilings.
I only do mesh tape..I prefill with 20 minute.. then tape mesh with 3M 61 spray adhesive then backfill with 45 minute.,...then any light topping compound.... I've never had a crack ever... it's all about prefill and bedding with fast set.
I’ve never had cracks either, when I used setting mud anyway. But I found I can generally pre-fill at the same time as I’m coating it because of the wide-open mesh weave
@@ThatKiltedGuyDIY yes sir.... depending on gap.. tight jiontup doesn't require it.,.,I always run a wet coat of 90 minute on top of mesh...very thin coat just to bed it.... zero problems
I tend to use 90 minute just for practical reasons...I'm old and not as fast now as I was.....90 minute gives me plenty of time to secure a lot of distance even if I don't come back over immediately with topping I still have the bonding ..,.20 minute is faster and a harder mud to do repairs in..,. It's bullet proof
@@ThatKiltedGuyDIY thank you for your open feedback... this is something that helps myself and others who do this as a job... hopefully professionals learn something. Here as much as the diyer
I personally do both types of work....I get by mostly on minimal tools for taping.....I don't waste time with bazookas mainly because I don't do high production..I do high end care less about how much as much as how well
What Compound from Lowe’s or Home Depot do you recommend?
USG +3
Is USG Plus 3 Fast Setting Joint Compound?
Should I do first coat with USG Plus 3 and second Coat with USG All Purpose?
Are you a UA-cam channel member?
How do you fix cracked mesh or poorly installed/mudded mesh?
Rip it out and redo it
I have a cracked ceiling because of mud used with mesh tape. I have "repaired" it only to have cracks return in 2 or 3 years. The ceiling is in the basement with a kitchen above. The house is 20 years old so there is no settling. I am willing to texture the ceiling with knock down to cover the problem, but am concerned that it the cracks will come through the texture eventually. What would you recommend?
First, houses never quit settling and they’re always expanding and contracting. And mesh tape is only weaker if the person didn’t use hot mud, also known as fast setting joint compound. Check out this video ua-cam.com/video/6ZIVR_fMFJI/v-deo.html
@@ThatKiltedGuyDIY Thanks so much. Wish I would have found your videos before I finished my basement. It makes complete sense that mesh tape will pull away from the sheetrock before it dries completely. Just to make sure I understand, the cracks must be repaired or they will eventually make their way through the textured ceiling?
Yes
PS.. always bag up your mesh tape...it degrades with time...less stick.. another reason why I use 3m spray glue....even fresh drywall has dust....
hey that’s a great point. I didn’t think of it because I used to go through mesh tape so fast it never lost its stick, plus like you I put spray adhesive on first.
Is it ok to tape...mesh tape inside corners as long as I use, say, 45 min. Mud? If you happen to see this kilted guy p,ease leave a comment. Thanks!
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Well I will put a code in each video and there’s only about six codes total so you should be able to get all the free entries you can in that time. Sorry that one’s not working.
A lot of people say it’s working for them so I’m not sure what else to suggest other than trying a different device to enter from. You should be able to enter from a tablet, phone, or desktop or laptop
@@ThatKiltedGuyDIY I tried the word 2 days ago and nothing. Today tried new word and nothing. I will keep trying. Keep making videos, thanks!
Does fiberglass tape have the same issue or is it just the mesh?
If you mean fibafuse, no
In the middle of mudding an addition and just saw this video. Help! Our helper used mesh with all purpose mud!! We have 2-3 layers and some joints are developing cracks. How can I fix this? Can I tape over the joints? Thankfully we haven’t applied texture and paint yet.
One time when I had that happen after the second coat of mud was on, I put on a real heavy bead of caulking and troweled that kind of flat like a Band-Aid about 1.5” wide. I made sure I had enough thickness to not crack after it dried and then I just put one more coat of mud over it and it was fine several years later. But make sure the first coats are sanded down flat enough so that you’re not building up a huge hump.
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My solution is never use mesh tape. It never caught on with me. Paper for me always.
Entered the correct secret code but kept getting invalid code message. I can email a screenshot of my entry and the message I received.
Try Gallup or Gallop
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Gallop worked. Thanks.
I've never had an issue with mesh and still use it.. Paper tapes to messy for me...
I found sometimes the issue doesn’t arise for a year or two and then it’s just weaker and fails when it wouldn’t have if you had used setting type mud
I also have a trick to finish very strong butt joints with mesh.
30 years of Taping/finishing.
In the entire comment section All the answers/solutions were surmised upon the wrong question; what went wrong?
Know your dissimilar Materials and figure it out.
Its too easy, and over complicating the process doesn’t help.
I’d tell you the answers…..
I don’t give money away for free.
Good luck Dudes!!!
I'm Always do my first coat we hot mud it dry fast in is more strong, every situation is different if I working in a small job I put mash tape and do my first coat we hot mud and finish we the light weight mud, and if I doing a big job I use the bazuca we paper tape and don't use hot mud for my first coat I use green top for my first coat and finish we light weight 😉
Never use regular mud on mesh always use 5 or 20 min hot mud
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I use mesh tape for art projects 🤣
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Try Gallop
Never had a problem with it and used ordinary drywall mud
It doesn't crack Everytime and sometimes not until years later. It just fails too often with all purpose
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And remember it's easier to add more than the sand off too much!