MESH TAPE VS PAPER TAPE!!!!!!!
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2018
- WILL THE WAR NEVER END?!!!!! Let's dive into the bloody online battle of MESH VS PAPER!!!!
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Mesh plus hot mud is adequate, Iv taped thousands of house this way with little issue with cracking . Blown paper is the only issue I hear about in the uk. The other consideration is profile of joints , mesh is lower profile so you don’t have to build out the butt joint to 3 feet lol
I don’t put mesh in the corners but plasters do and have been for years so it’s not a issue either, you fold mesh over a corner and flush hot mud over it ..it can’t blow it won’t crack within Normal conditions.
Honestly in Europe and in the uk we use mesh on just about every new build house, I live in one and there’s no cracking . In my whole working life Iv only ever seen mesh crack under extreme weather/environmental conditions so propane burners etc Iv seen many many paper tape blow outs, it’s the number one complaint in finished homes here.
What we really want is a fiber reinforced hot mud that removes the need for a base tape all together.. another note, may hot muds are filler finish compounds designed for diy market to be sandable and are not suitable as a base coat over mesh.
You have to know and understand intended function of any product and use them appropriately.
Houses in the UK are predominantly masonry. Very little movement unless there is an extreme incident. Houses in the U.S. are stick framed with 2x4 walls. Racking and settling are the most common issue. Paper tape is the number one choice here. Mesh tape will show a crack in a butt joint even if it is something as simple as low interior humidity. Plastering is virtually nonexistent in the U.S.
oltedders the largest builder in the uk ( persimmon) has been using timber frames for a good few years now. Block build moves plenty when the lightweight blocks are saturated when the roof goes on. There’s far more moisture in traditional build when they are rushed.
Still neither seem to crack much.
@@tomsavage6886
Good to know. I've never seen any pro dry wall contractors use mesh tape. Pretty much a DYI option here. Thanks for your input.
@@oltedders agreed
That was great information for the DIY person. I’ve been using both and never knew the difference between them. Thanks Ben.
As a home owner doing small repairs your videos are very helpful. I used to do way to much work. Seeing your work habits has saved me a ton of time. Also, I’m much more comfortable doing something then touching up when there is a goof and I don’t get hung up about it. Your drywall videos are the best on UA-cam for practical and fast drywall work. Thanks so much for sharing this. Oh, and if I’m needing a house done I see why a pro saves time and money! I figure pro’s find doing a small patch ends up pretty expensive, so your sharing saves little jobs you don’t really want to bid on, and you stay on the jobs that make sense. Good karma here.
This professional in depth explanation for DIY enthusiast is what I was looking for through the internet for past few days :) Thanks!
Great explanation. Over the years Ive used mesh for patches but now have my whole basement to mud, so started to try paper after watching your channel. Many thanks.
Hey Vancouver carpenter just wanted to say that your videos have been helpful and informative. Been fixing my own condo in vancouver, BC and these vids help. Much appreciated brother.
Wait...doesn't that make you the Vancouver carpenter?
I'm an "old" carpenter that also occasionally does small bits of drywall. Your advice is very helpful. I've tried to like mesh tape thinking there must be a significant advantage but one I never could find. I think I've had the same slightly used roll of mesh sitting in my shop for years. Every once in a while I'll take another stab at using it but always find it problematic. I figured it was just my lack of skill. Thanks, your videos are much appreciated even by a guy that has been working at this for years. You are also courageous for teaching to such an opinionated lot (as are carpenters, well, it's actually the whole world).
If you build fishing rods it's spectacular for mounting reel seats....wrap it on the bare rod blank until the desited diameter......slap some epoxy on it and slide the reel seat over....it seeps in beautifully...better than masking tape arbors ;)
+Tackle Advisors,
Lol, you beat me to it!
I was thinking that mesh works great for making reel seat bushings 🤔
This is one of your better videos because it covers a single topic, gives explanation of the science and then most importantly, quick real world examples of how to apply what you taught, thanks!!
Thank you for sharing your hard earned experience. Absolutely solid. No fluff, just straight forward teaching.
This is a great explanation, thank you! I am fixing a popcorn ceiling that mesh tape was used and there is multiple cracks. I appreciate this video.
all of your videos are absolutely killer. thanks for posting them!
I'm a DIYer so thanks for sharing. I really like how you simply explain how and why you do something along with the amount of detail you impart.
Thank you. I've done drywall off and on through the years. I just got my first job from a homeowner and that really helped clear some things up thank you
When the Flash isn't saving Central City, he's drywalling.
Just what I was thinking.
Glad I am not the only one who sees the resemblance.
I knew it I knew it I just couldn't figure it out 😂
Mud, Barry, mud.
He looks like if Steve O got into putting up drywall instead of running through it
Vancouver Carpenter, you are a class act. You are a breath of fresh air. In all my 35 years ( retired now ) in drywall, drywallers were known tax cheats in the underground economy and low life beer drinking drunks.
You have good advice for all the homeowners. Keep the good work up and make a video about it.
'drywallers were known tax cheats in the underground economy and low life beer drinking drunks'...Okay, you mean other than the hard-working, responsible ones that took pride in their work and themselves...??
Thanks for taking the time to put these videos together! Currently doing drywall repairs after a contractor re-pipe on the house. Started out doing small repair jobs as an Apt. manager in the 90's. Still using a pretty basic kit of 3 knives and just upgraded to a tin mud pan to avoid plastic chunks in the finish. Again, thanks so much for making this information available!
Glad I found your videos! It has been a while since my last drywall project and you have helped restore my confidence and shown me good new tips. Will be visiting again when I get to my crown and trim work. Cheers
From what Ihave seeing in Aus, paper for corner, metal for protruding corner and mesh everything else.
Even with hot mud it’s still vulnerable to cracking, I’ve seen drywall a year old crack from mesh and hot mud. I plain don’t use mesh period. Good to inform people that mesh tape is an inferior product. Thank you for your service!
Fixing my botched tile removal project and have ended up watching several of your videos recently. Really enjoy them. Very informative. Thanks so much.
THank you. For years, I've wondered (but never asked) when to use paper and when to use mesh. Working on my home this time around, it occurred to me it might be important to find out. You've made it very clear. I thank you for your clear and concise examples.
ben is the man!
i look for dude to have some kinda tv show in the near future - that is he and his team: credit his camera/sound man & editor for sure!
As always, a perfect explanation.
Thank you VC, yes it is very helpful to understand the different applications to properly use tape or mesh. I also appreciate your video on fixing the drywall around the outlets. 2 thumbs up!!!
Another great turtorial. Thanks for taking the time to teach us your craft!
Mesh is useful for more than small patches. It will save a home owner thousand if an upstairs tub or shower leaks. The smallest amount of water would cause paper tape on the ceiling below to fail, leaving a blister (often quite long) that would have to be removed and repaired often requiring matching texture or a complete retexture ( at least in my area). While with the mesh tape application you will see discoloring along the joint as an indicator that something went wrong. The plumbing issue can be resolved and after the ceiling below has thoroughly dried it can be resealed with a good primer and repainted with no repair needed to the drywall itself . Follow these tips when working with mesh tape. 1. Prep the joint surface to remove any broken or torn paper. This can be done as you are applying the tape just by looking ahead for any imperfections. 2. Use a small (3") knife to "wipe" it on. Similar to wiping down paper tape only you can start from the end rather than the middle. A small knife will stay down in the recesses of flats nicely and will get quite sharp to aid in step one. 3. Squeeze mud through the mesh in a similar fashion of how you would run your knife blade parallel to the joint when hand taping with paper tape. This encases the mesh in quick-set similar to when a concrete worker uses a hook to pull up on the wire mesh while pouring. This step can be thought of as pre-loading the joint before following through with the normal application of the bed coat. Finish the rest as per a normal paper tape job. I should say I'm on board with paper tape in corners and the use of quick set. However, I don't see any issue with using mesh tape and lightweight compound in non joint areas such as tabbinng around wall penetrations or small holes such as remove Romex for temp lighting. These instances are often high up in areas of indirect lighting where "Done is good."
Thanks for that info :)
Lol dude if a leak you're pulling the drywall anyways. Wtd
That was probably the best explanation of tapes I’ve ever seen. Mind blown. I have had mesh tape crack before, along a whole butt joint.
You're a born teacher...with great knowledge & experience base to draw from and pass on!
Great explanation and real world examples of the type of drywall application (especially if structural stress, or hot/cold). Thanks for sharing and not just covering the theoretical, but it's practical application (golden).
About 5 min in, I wondered why you would ever use mesh, and by the end you addressed that very question. Excellent video, very informative! Thanks.
This guy definitely has a point ..but I have been doing painting for 10 years and some gyprock work ...never got a call back from customers complaining about cracks ..I prepare the joints well for my self because I'll be painting it ..if you do it right from a to z you have no worries at all ..multi purpose compound on mesh or paper is wrong ..use the one you mix it with water not premixed..wall corners definitely paper not mesh ..keep in mind if your not used to paper it could create air bubbles ..cheers
Great video Ben, your knowledge is shown in this video and in the work we've done together. Looking forward to the next video
Thanks for the explanation --you convinced me to use paper in my small office build inside my garage. I used mesh on some work in another house in the past, and you are correct: After several years I ended up with a few super fine cracks along some of the outside wall drywall edges.
HGTV needs to get this guy, can replace some of the other shows like love it or list it.
thats like the only good one
This is the only explanation that kinda makes sense. Having said that, i have used the mesh with the ap mud and have never had a problem. Granted, I am not a profession dry wall guy but i have done it dozens of times on poorly constructed homes.
Also, the corner thing is really not an issue, I have been using an inside corner tool and it is much easier, saves me a lot of time, and produces a good corner.
I do need to start using quick dry and none shrink muds for the first coat thu. That will speed things up a lot.
So is the paper tape effectively forming a floating patch, and able to hide cracking and separation as a result of it maintaining a veneer of sorts on the surface?
good stuff! I'm doing my very first sheet rocking / mudding project right now! I'm using all your videos as my ONLY source of information!! so far, I'm very happy with the results.. thanks!!!
Some very good points. I have always used mesh for the small projects including the latest bathroom renovation. I used mesh but I also stabled the mesh on either side to secure the joint more. Stabling may address the shrinkage of the mud as mentioned in vid keeping the mesh in tension. Stabling is very quick and mud covers it well.
Mesh tape for flats using only - Hot mud (sheetrock - 90, 45, 20, 5) for 2 coats and final coat with premix
Paper tape for corners using pre mix on all 3 coats
I agree with most of what was in video in regards to mesh tape. The higher stress areas can be adressed with a mesh tape I use that is at least twice as strong as the mesh tape you use in the video. Here's a GAME CHANGER: There is a SUPER STRENGTH mesh tape that I buy at the Home Depot that is wider and thicker and blows away the standard yellow or white mesh tape. The Best tape I'm talking about is like fiberglass mesh tape on steroids. It's Brown in color and wider then the normal mesh tape. I can guarantee that that The super mesh tape can be used on all those stress areas you mentioned with no issues of cracking. Personally myself I only do Drywall and Interior patching So for myself I never use the paper tape because I don't need it for the type of work I do. Now for a guy that does complete walls and rooms, the paper tape is faster to apply. I only use the super fiberglass tape on all my jobs now and I no longer use the standard white fiberglass mesh tape.
Great explanations on the paper vs. mesh for do it yourselfers like me. I've always wanted to know the difference and I've always been told that there's really no difference. GREAT JOB on the explanation!!!
Thank you a ton for taking the time to do these videos. I learn a lot and don't for granted the opportunity to learn from a quality tradesman.
i use paper for long spans and multiple joints etc. Mesh is used for quick fixes like small holes, gouges and imperfections. Since mesh is pliable you can sink it into the hole a bit. I think of it as mini rebar for joint compound. I never had any cracks or issues with my repairs
You got it. There’s no debate among us drywall finishers. Paper tape with All Purpose. However, while I haven’t used it, I suspect Fiber Fuse is a good go between.
All the plasterers I see in NZ are now using a fibre tape that's kind of a random matt that absorbs plaster. The stuff is amazing. Way better than paper.
Your videos are pure gold!! Thank you so much for sharing all this info!!!
Bro your channel is not only informational but great to watch awesome job.
5:50 I come for this.
In France, mesh tape for plaster dry walls is forbiden. 100% paper tape. Mesh tape is used for Fermacell dry walls.
Love the way you explain things so easy to understand thanks man!
Watched a couple of your videos, this video easily earned the subscription. Keep it up Ben!
Thank you for that tip. Looks like paper tape wins for me. As a DIY guy I’ve used mesh tap on lots of my jobs and couldn’t figure out why it doesn’t look good finished. It also don’t sand well, you have to be very careful or you end up seeing the mesh. Keep up the good work. 👍🏻
Nicely explained. I'm a fan of mesh, and I use it by choice. There's no chance of bubbles with mesh. Mesh however will twist and move if it hasn't stuck properly. Also it can deform if plastered over too vigorously. Also sanding can be a problem if the depth of the mud is insufficient.
Do you not use steel corners in Canada? We use both internal and external here in Australia.
Internal corners I've seen mostly paper, but exterior corners are almost always metal paper combo thing. He didn't talk about any of the exterior corners in this vid, I searched it on his page and he definitely uses then or exterior corners.
Ben. I love your vids. You are the only person to point out the fact and the possible problem with paper tape and hot mud. I had a hole behind a bathroom mirror that needed patched. I covered it with hot mud and paper tape. An hour later I noticed that the tape had raised up of the wall a little bit.
Thanks for the great vids. Can't walt to see you do something different besides drywall
Outstanding video. Full of practical and experienced tested information. Learnt so much about taping and mud. Now to put the information on my ceilings and walls myself.
Lol, I always called it the “taillight warranty”.
Same idea.🤘
lol Mag Dump I was about to post the same thing... but then they're always a bit different in Canada. LOL just a friendly joke please people, don't get upset.
'Till the cheque clears warranty.
For my skill level, which means I have done drywall many times over the years, but not as a profession, I have found that paper tape is great for corners. However, for long seams, and especially ceiling seams, the mesh tape has resulted in better results. It is easy to lay down just a bit too much mud on the seam and then the paper tape leaves a noticeable raised area. By comparison, when I used mesh tape, my result was well-blended and nearly invisible seams after shooting on texture. Now, I am not challenging the expert on his experience or opinion with paper tape. As for me, I just get better ceiling and wall seams with mesh.
I personally prefer the paper in 100% of the works. I never use mesh.
For ceiling use fibreglass, it s thin and barely visible, is soft to work with but way better than paper, tape to corners but something like tuff tape since you can press it without thinking of destroying it and there won t be any bubbling after 2 weeks...here in Europe we always put fiberglass on all joint except corners..
Good video man. I haven't taped in years and was just brushing up. Thanks for the time you spent making the video for DIY's like myself.
Thank you I learned stuff I did not know about. Very helpful with a DYI in my master bath.
I switched from tape to mesh and never looked back. Never had any of the cracking problems you talk about and I made a small tool to fit the mesh into corners perfectly. It all comes down to personal taste. I have shown people how to do their plaster, most of the time with tape they always get blisters, with mesh never a problem. I've been doing renovations for 35 years and my own home has mesh throughout and never had any issues with cracking.
I’m a pro and see cracking all the time from people using mesh as diy prob is they always use topping compound with it
You are crazy MF
Can you do a video about using "paperless" fiberglass tapes like Fibafuse ??
Jamie I’ve had great luck with Fibafuse. Especially for quick patches
I'm a DIY'r that has done a few houses worth of taping over time and find that I get a lot more fuzz problems when applying and sanding with it than mesh or paper. I only use Perfect 90 type products in insider corners, not mesh, paper or fiber.
I love you man! I watch your videos WAAAAY too much....just did a small project ( baseboards) went south when previous installers glued everything down...ripped out chunks of my drywall! My son was helping me....and I’m like “ I got this!”.. fixed the drywall. Taped, textured and it’s like it never happened...my son was thinking his mom has mad drywall skills! I took the praise ( he’s 21...I need all those moments I can get) ...but here’s to you my friend, Ben. You made me look good! Kudos
hell yeah.. rock it, Cindy!
I've seen this information before. But never got the why. The why Really helps me with the learning process so I remember it. Many thanks for all the information I've learned from you!
Best place for mesh tape I've found is behind ceramic tile on cement board.
Yea because it moves a lot and allows expansion between joints. Pretty much same tape that is used in drywall , I guess this guy makes sense since he is a pro, but I never had any problems with mesh
Torsional an shear strength... you're not making up words dude that's a perfect description.
Longitudinal shear
Yes but both are not relevant to what happens after mud is applied.
As he said it I came across your comment
@@jessespencer9810 Exactly. He is using words and talking as they they are some dry, structural components. Basically just saying what he feels but using technical words to make it sounds like he has some scientifically tested reasoning behind what he is making up.
Straight to the point no unnecessary talking, helped me choose as well. thanks
Very informative. Thank you. I've gone back to the shop to swap all-purpose mud for quick-set mud on mesh for a ceiling patch that has been secured with wooden battens and screws.
I am moving away from paper tape I have a few rolls and when they are finished I am never going back. Hot mud with mesh tape will never bubble, crack or peel. I only use 5, 20 and 90 minute mud I am done with all premixed mud
Mesh tape is also mold/mildew resistant unlike paper tape.
I'm a beginner, by hot mud do you mean mixed with hot water?
@@JMoore4291 No, hot mud is self setting mud that is mixed from a bag it is a dry powder that is mixed with cold water...sets in 5, 20, 45 or 90 min. sold at any supplier or big box store
@@mazzg1966 ahh, I have some of that myself. 20, 45 and 90 minute
@@JMoore4291 No. Hot mud is mud you mix yourself, usually 5, 20, 45 or 90 minute mud. It dries mainly by chemical reaction, not so much water evaporation as with premixed mud..
Please review the fiberglass tape...looks like paper but is woven fiberglass...It works best for me.
I have had great results with the fiberglass tape also...just use rubber gloves when handling!
just wanna say thanks I've watched a few of your videos and each one helped a lot.Im rebuilding a old cottage on my property for my 22 year old autistic son . your drywall tips are gold! thanks again!
Very well done in all ways. Thank you. I'll be sure to look for you for future projects...there is that deck coming up...
You should checkout FibaFuse... it's fibreglass meshtape, it's better than both because it's denser than the mesh but soaks the normal mud all the way through, you can use it in a bazooka like paper... makes it super thin and you can sand it to nothing if you need to (can't sand paper tape). It's what I use, but what do I know, I'm not a pro.
I had to replace all the drywall in the lower level of my new split level house due to water damage while it was vacant. I used FibaFuse as I'm an amateur drywaller and have never had paper tape joints come out good. I was able to get everything nearly perfect in the initial coat using the green lid air dry mud. Skim coated after hitting high spots and even the butt joints are impossible to find. It embeds so well. My only problem was I didn't know about this stuff sooner.
Fibafuse is life. We just finished about 1000sqm of walls on a commercial development with it, I use it on all of my renos (mesh is still my go to for cornice repair however). It pretty much makes paper and mesh redundant for general drywall work.
I switched to FibreFuse also. I sometimes use the brown heavy duty fiberglass on butt seams, which doesn't rack like the yellow fiberglass, but I use FibreFuse on all corners. It is more porous than paper so you don't get bubbles like paper tape. I never use paper any more.
Wow, I just left basically same comment about Fiba Fuse. Stuff is amazing. I've been able to float out the edges with a single coat.
@@EhurtAfy I'm a Class A contractor and the only time i use it's with fibafuse * rolls joint with fibafuse * No but really I've done entire rehabs with this stuff and i love it .
I used nothing but mesh tape with all-purpose mud when I lived in northern Illinois, never had a crack, used the same when I moved to Las Vegas and close to half my joints cracked , tried mesh with hot mud, better but still some hairline cracks, now nothing but paper and no more cracks. So I would say environment plays a lot into the debate.
Nathan Burbach definitely , especially being closer to tectonic plates, those ripples are harder on the west cost than central
Nathan Burbach , you probably had more experience as you taped. Stuff in Illinois was cracking you just never noticed. Have to use set fast with mesh. Paper is for pros!
In Germany we usually use mesh and filler with fibre. Never have cracks. Of course climate is not like in Las Vegas, nowhere as Germany is small with basically just one climate zone lol. So I assume it must have something to do with specific climate zones. Otherwise I can't imagine why almost nobody ever uses paper. But I know you can buy paper in Germany. It's just that I never saw someone using it ever. And I worked couple of years on construction sites. On the other hand building with dry walls is not as common in Germany as in the US. One professional painter even bought US tools for dry wall works as he said US americans have the most experience with dry walls.
Dude, this was fantastic and made perfect sense when you walked around the house! Thank you!
Glad it helped!
Thanks, this was very helpful for my small new drywall project.
Would love to see Fibafuse tossed in the mix for review.
That stuff is great on patches, it lays super flat to the surface.
I like mesh tape on butt joints because it can be sanded almost flat; paper tape needs to be mudded on both sides, so there is always an embarrassing bulge to blend-in. Mesh is also good for an "irreparable" fault line that's so busy that it makes paper tape bubble up or peel; you just paint on a few layers of mesh and skim the mud over it when it dries. Mesh might also be better near the ocean or in a bathroom; I've seen houses on the coast in which half the paper-taped joints are curling and peeling. Finally, if you use mesh on a corner, for whatever reason, just make sure that one panel goes all the way into the corner and the other gets all the tape, so that the corner itself is the fault line; I can't imagine trying to fold mesh the way paper is folded.
On corners I only use mesh if I have a large gap to fill with mud and need the extra support.
PC No agreed that mesh is fine on but joints if you know what your doing. In fact it will ultimately be a stronger bond in temperamental conditions with less initial bulge to feather out.
Terrific video. This is what I decided many years ago (after actual results), but your answer has greater depth and understanding.
Thanks Ben. I’m a carpenter woodworker who really dislikes rock and mud. Probably because I’m so bad at it. I have even hired sheet rockers for small jobs that have done a worse job than me because of lack of confidence.
With all the fires near me, it has been impossible to find anyone to work so I have started to do my own mud. You have absolutely saved me.
Is there work out your way. Looking to head west. I’m a well balanced carpenter. Mostly interior renovations
Great video eh!
Many years ago when mesh tape was just invented I used that mesh tape thinking this will make taping our living room so much easier (however I did used paper in the corners)... Well every single flat joint has cracks going across it. I have to re-do ALL the joints in our living room.
From this experience I really don't like that mesh tape, I'll make sure to only use paper for everything from now on.
I just found your channel this evening and watched 3 so far, you know your stuff and explain things very well.
Thumbs up! 👍🏼from Ontario 🇨🇦eh :)
If your not into tailgate warranties, you should try tail light warranties they're even quicker. As soon as you see my tail lights turn on the warranty is up. lol
That's the proper way of saying it.
Years ago I bought a Lada with a tail light warranty:)
That's hilarious!
Great explanation, very easy to understand, makes alot of sense. Thanks for posting.
Thank you! I've been doing a full remodel, I've only ever used paper, but I saw a short video where someone was using mesh, and got curious. I've had ZERO problems with my paper tape, I guess I'll still be sticking with the tried and true!
They should make a paper mesh tape combo. Same thickness just benefit of both.
but that just sounds like paper tape with extra steps...
Ever try paper plastic corner bead no nails
Just to add that mesh tape won't make it in hot places, hot countries let's say. Here in Portugal everyone uses paper tape because mesh tape cracks in about 50% of the situations. In turn it can be used for small repairs or small lengths without any problems. Good luck everyone.
Very useful!!! Great breakdown. Thank you so much!
Thanks so much for your videos! They have helped this new drywaller to do some jobs at home.
00:24 mesh tape is also better when you do reno and want to use 20min mud. And also when the new drywall is not perfectly flush with the existing drywall and there is a great chance of bubbles and wrinkles. Mesh tape conforms better to uneven surfaces
thats why you prefill and learn how to float spackle
Very informative! Thank you! Excatly what I needed to know.
I learnt a lot in this vid, very informative. Now i can fix my wall, thank you dude.👍
20 seconds in, correct, no debate paper tape rules, better fill, try folding mesh tape for a corner, it sucks.
It's fine for small job or patch.
This expert says paper too.👍 and mesh self adhesive wouldn't work in Ames taping systems. (Bazooka).
Notime ForFakeNews I’ve seen mesh under a skimmed wall a lot, in corners etc as well. But if you’re not skimming, I would stick to paper every day of the week.
I have over 30 years of drywall finishing experience. When mesh tape came out, we used it in some cases, but none of us liked it and we quit using it. I have never found any type of drywall finishing that would require mesh tape. You mentioned that mesh should be used with quickset powdered mud, not true. 2-3 good coats on mesh is sufficient. As I stated, I never use mesh tape. Paper tape is the best tape to use. The key factor is putting enough mud on the joints and in the recessed edges to fill them in and then wipe down the tape from the center to the ends. But the secret is this: allow the mud and tape to dry overnight before applying the next mud coats. Float the joints after they are dry, with a bed coat, using an 8" knife. The following day, use a 10" knife to float a skim coat. That should be enough, but if the joints seem to need another coat, slim a 3rd coat again with a 10" knife or a 12".
Thank you for this helpful information. Much appreciated.
I never knew that. I thought it was just preference. Makes total sense. Thanks.
Great video man! This guy knows what he's talking about thanks for sharing.
Tailgate warranty LOL 3:20
I have been doing exclusively drywall repairs for the last 6 years and the few call backs I've had are from using paper. Virtually the opposite of what this guy is saying
I agree 100 I have been doing drywall and plaster repair for over 20yrs. I have yet to repair a properly or improperly done mesh joint. Mesh joints are only repaired because of MAJOR structural movement or because the just look like crap PERIOD.
I have been doing drywall and plaster repair for over 20yrs. I have yet to repair a properly or improperly done mesh joint. Mesh joints are only repaired because of MAJOR structural movement or because the just look like crap PERIOD.
Could depend on the imbedding mud. For example, the ONE time I used all-purpose..I got a callback, over some lifting tapes and cracks.
I always use Yellow Taping mud, we have SYNKO or Certainteed here, I tested both and found Certainteed to have the most glue/ adhesion. So that's what I use, no problems.
those people who have problems with mesh tape most likely used easy-sand hot mud 😂
Could it be that because mostly everyone uses paper so thats all you're seeing?
Now I know why the basement I finished twenty years ago has tons of minor cracks...I used mesh everywhere...because I did not know any better. Thanks for sharing...
Very helpful. First attempt at drywall so trying to figure out the best methods to use. Thank you!
Good video！
we have an option btw paper and mesh，we use fibre tape.
Fiber is by far the worst possible tape you can use.
Fibreglass tape (e.g. brand Koelner in Europe) is great for fixing cracks invisibly on existing ceilings, walls etc. It is sufficiently thin that it doesn't show a bump and blends in with the texture of the existing finish.
Good Lord that's a LOT of patching in that room! Why didn't you just do a fresh drywall install?
Ur rite
Probably because anther trade went in after and made holes.... think of all scenarios :).
Probably will be covered with tile
Extremely clear explanation -- thanks!
I wish I'd found your channel a long time ago. Thank you for the good info.