WRIST vs ARM AIMING: Which is BETTER for VALORANT?

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  • @skillcappedvalorant
    @skillcappedvalorant  4 роки тому +174

    Are you a WRIST aimer or an ARM aimer?

    • @jude675
      @jude675 4 роки тому +42

      im a wrist aimer

    • @williampark7497
      @williampark7497 4 роки тому +24

      I was a wrist aimer but after realising about the issues I changed to arm aimer

    • @p1asma335
      @p1asma335 4 роки тому +11

      depends on situation

    • @vivek_saha
      @vivek_saha 4 роки тому +2

      Wrist

    • @vivek_saha
      @vivek_saha 4 роки тому +3

      Plot twist : it's depends on you

  • @Gabriel-jg5wh
    @Gabriel-jg5wh 3 роки тому +621

    I bought a huge ass mousepad, i'm gonna use it all.

    • @okprofilename
      @okprofilename 3 роки тому +11

      lmao same

    • @CardsNSleevesTCG
      @CardsNSleevesTCG 3 роки тому +6

      I use a quarter of my GS-R 🤣

    • @tornadoman337
      @tornadoman337 3 роки тому +2

      I have a gs r se and a g640 mouspad

    • @olimpather
      @olimpather 3 роки тому +1

      Mouse: HOLD UP MAN!! YOUR FLICKING TOO FAST!!!

    • @olimpather
      @olimpather 3 роки тому +1

      True, every single inch that my mouse had has, occupied.

  • @fatcat5782
    @fatcat5782 4 роки тому +261

    0:40 yes thats how i spam my keyboard while defusing the spike

  • @dhevesshwaarpunnia1410
    @dhevesshwaarpunnia1410 3 роки тому +789

    As the experts have said, arm aiming is more healthy, but Ive been wrist aiming since cs 1.6, and its just natural for me

    • @firgz7440
      @firgz7440 3 роки тому +71

      Same I tried changing and I couldn’t hit a shot Idk how people do it lol

    • @firgz7440
      @firgz7440 3 роки тому +16

      @John Rep I’m actually trying it again rn just messing around in unrated and I’m getting used to it but wrist aiming just comes much more naturally. Like I did a game test earlier while wrist aiming vs arm aiming on bind and got 35 wrist aiming and 23 arm aiming. Won both games and were against different people but I’m not terrible anymore 😂

    • @ravenlonely
      @ravenlonely 3 роки тому +14

      I used to be a wrist Aimer but because my wrist started to hurt with my flicks I switched to arm aiming... it was a hard switch but once you get it it’s a lot easier to use.

    • @roboro3
      @roboro3 3 роки тому +5

      I’ve been playing games on the computer since I was 3. I just have a gamers wrist

    • @mayacold8263
      @mayacold8263 3 роки тому +12

      cs 1.6 squad let's gooooo (also wrist aim here)

  • @chatmasalagamer8253
    @chatmasalagamer8253 3 роки тому +821

    Summary :
    Small mouse pad = wrist aim
    Big and thicc mouse pad= arm aim.

    • @zawtorley7507
      @zawtorley7507 3 роки тому +36

      No, Big and thicc mousepad = wrist aim lmao

    • @r3mii-CL
      @r3mii-CL 3 роки тому +7

      For me, small mouse pad & high sensitivity = arm aim

    • @chatmasalagamer8253
      @chatmasalagamer8253 3 роки тому +68

      No u both wrong now I use my thicc mousepad for eating dinner on it
      I am a professional.

    • @zawtorley7507
      @zawtorley7507 3 роки тому +4

      @@chatmasalagamer8253 lol 😂

    • @turtlesthatsing1781
      @turtlesthatsing1781 3 роки тому +2

      Uhhhhh, I opt for table

  • @HazFrostYT
    @HazFrostYT 3 роки тому +44

    I use both my arm and my wrist, making the load of utilization for both half. I like to use the wrist for small adjustments and also to reach a further flick.

  • @tigersfury8914
    @tigersfury8914 4 роки тому +104

    Utilizing both is also an option in my opinion.
    Using mainly arm aiming to clear angles and moving around the place.
    And using wrist aiming ONLY when you want to hold an angle and need to do very minor adjustment when someone shows up.

    • @Alpha-up3mo
      @Alpha-up3mo 2 роки тому

      I do exactly that

    • @ai7en
      @ai7en 2 роки тому +4

      Yes arm aimers can do that but wrist aimers end up getting fked after using arm aims...

    • @csb8447
      @csb8447 2 роки тому +2

      @@ai7en that's great to hear for me! I used my arm for years for all the movements while incorporating my wrist a bit. Think: 85% arm and 15% wrist. Over the past few months I switched it to like 70% wrist and 30% arm and hitting headshots has become so much easier. I just need to isolate and improve my wrist more because my arm now naturally wants to do everything anyways so its been a pretty smooth transition so far! My wrist accuracy is still trash but isolating it and just practicing the small amount I'm able to has made such a drastic difference lol
      Things like, instead of doing a 180 with my arm and just practicing turning by shuffling my wrist on the pad feels literally like the equivalent of "staying on your toes" in football/soccer lol. That and intermittently taking my hand of the mouse and putting it back on and just copying a few things from the video has felt insane lol
      This is why the voltaic kovaaks routine had me plateau at plat. It is hard to only use your wrist in those scenarios they give so when practicing i was just doing the same thing over and over and over again instead of actively working out technique. My arm is great and consistent now no matter my state of mind, so that base is wonderful to have lol. But all of that explains exactly why id miss by millimeters when aiming for headshots. My dumbass forgot to use my wrist and fingers - huge technique problem. Luckily I write very neatly and quickly using my wrist and fingers, and I'm also decent at guitar, so I just need to refine my muscle memory for those purposes
      edit: and just to cover my ass against people who say muscle memory is a myth and its just mouse control, my experience memorizing specific movements and then learning to use them as a basis for control and then adjust it to the sensitivity or whatever says different lol. Even ball control in soccer you start of memorizing a basic movement. In guitar, your "wrist control" starts off by memorizing specific movements as a basis. So yeah, I don't want to hear that shit when i understand what its all about lol, theres a reason why s1mple recommends to learn to your wrist movement in the way he does lol. Theres a reason why a leading national scorer taught me to shoot in a specific fashion lol, and theres a reason why a reknown center back taught me how to slide tackle in a certain way. IDK who began that myth but I've seen it a lot in the aiming community

    • @az_ax5
      @az_ax5 2 роки тому

      @@csb8447 what's your dpi and sens?

    • @csb8447
      @csb8447 2 роки тому

      @@az_ax5 I don't have my valorant sens memorized but it equates to 34cm/360, my dpi is 800

  • @N31907
    @N31907 3 роки тому +13

    I used to wrist aim when I played MC a while back. I would often walk away from long sessions with bruised and sore wrists. It was not fun. Then I started playing more conventional FPS games, switched to arm, and my wrist is healing nicely. I would recommend it to anyone who wants to be able to use their hands within a month of logging off.

  • @Alex-pd4ug
    @Alex-pd4ug 2 роки тому +37

    To switch from wrist aiming to arm aiming, I went into Aimlabs and used the Valorant settings (EDPI 400) and just drilled different exercises for an hour. Following this I went into Valorant (800 DPI and .5 sensitivity) and went to the range to test it. Sure enough, my times for 50 targets were the same as they were before- 57-60 seconds. Obv it'll take more time to make it second nature, but sticking it out was worth it imo

    • @tinychamberz
      @tinychamberz 2 роки тому +5

      400 edpi is def not arm aim xD

    • @Rayzur99
      @Rayzur99 2 роки тому +2

      @@tinychamberz yes it is bro. I play on 350 edpi and i only use my arm. Wrist aiming is like 1000 edpi+

    • @tinychamberz
      @tinychamberz 2 роки тому +1

      @@Rayzur99 400 edpi is almost purely wrist for me. 200 edpi is arm aim

    • @danielsingh8114
      @danielsingh8114 Рік тому +2

      I do play on 2300 edpi and im immortal, its just what you are used to tbh. Wrist player too.

    • @novakbalint1635
      @novakbalint1635 Рік тому +1

      ​@@tinychamberzim arm aimer and a put up 400 edpi and a can aim my wrist

  • @k4karot766
    @k4karot766 3 роки тому +62

    I wanna use my arm so badly but my table doesn't allow me to do so. That's why Imma wrist aimer with a low edpi.

    • @fu8115
      @fu8115 3 роки тому +3

      I feel your pain brother 😭

    • @Fluskar
      @Fluskar 3 роки тому +1

      same man, same.

    • @hihowareufinethanku
      @hihowareufinethanku 7 місяців тому

      Same dude how can i change it bruh?

  • @izraakazekeen
    @izraakazekeen 3 роки тому +24

    I’m a wrist aimer & personally, it’s always BEST to warm your wrist & fingers. Also i learn sport science, arm aimer may potentially have a risk of aching your entire forearm or shoulder without you realising it. It may even stiff your shoulders as well.
    Eitherway, do whatever kinds of warmup you’re comfortable with for your hands as it will help greatly & also reduce the risk of injury

  • @gavin4544
    @gavin4544 3 роки тому +16

    I am a wrist aimer. EDPI of 280.
    (800dpi, 0.35 in-game sense) Flick shots and taps feel easier than me using my arm to aim.

    • @nathando5633
      @nathando5633 3 роки тому +1

      yes, i have the same edpi except with a +8, the wrist feels natural to shoot with flicks but when it comes to jetts updrafting on you, you might have the reaction time but the slow edpi might not make it. Try testing arm shooting and see how you like it

    • @xednacer9079
      @xednacer9079 3 роки тому

      if u re edpi is 280 so u re a arm aimer

    • @evaander
      @evaander 3 роки тому

      You wrist aim with that? That’s my exact edpi and ingame sens and I use arm aim

    • @vex7830
      @vex7830 2 роки тому

      Yep exactly the same as me. 800 dpi and 0.35 sens

  • @BloodyZoomN
    @BloodyZoomN 3 роки тому +75

    I knew my sens was fucked up. I was playing at 2,015 wtf

    • @Saphie77
      @Saphie77 3 роки тому +6

      Only 2015? I used to play in the 4000-6000 range... that is until my wrist started to hurt every time so I had to switch to arm aiming. It’s difficult at first but it gets much easier as you practice. It just takes time.

    • @_amitsingh5872
      @_amitsingh5872 3 роки тому +1

      @@Saphie77 how much time did it take for you homie? just asking coz I'm having extreme difficulty in doing so. :((

    • @Saphie77
      @Saphie77 3 роки тому +4

      @@_amitsingh5872 it took me about 4 months to get used to it, but I still wasn’t able to hit shots as well as with my wrist, so I chose a number in between high sens and low sens. I’m currently at 1.45 and that seems to work pretty well
      Update: as I’ve been improving with wrist aiming, I’m currently in the 1.17 to 1.25 range. It just takes time and a lot of practice, but it’s a lot better, I must admit.

    • @aagmanbajpai5453
      @aagmanbajpai5453 3 роки тому

      I was playing at 11,840 😂
      Switched to 480 now, its so awesome nowwww

    • @sahilrai6558
      @sahilrai6558 3 роки тому +1

      yh bro im at 2,224 amd i cannot incorporate anyarm movement what so ever because of how alien it is to me

  • @sillyme2598
    @sillyme2598 4 роки тому +35

    i tend to mix both and keep my sensitivity slightly lower than the typical wrist aiming edpi. i have a wrist injury back then while working out but since then its gotten better but i can still feel the pinch sometimes.

  • @NATEMERCS
    @NATEMERCS 3 роки тому +14

    im a league of legends player for about 6 years so moving to fps like valorant is hard cause ive been a “wrist aimer” for so long

    • @renzoosuna6703
      @renzoosuna6703 3 роки тому

      Me too, I was so used to very fast and relaxed mouse movements on league. Now on Valorant I play at 1.800 sensitivity, my friends think that it's too fast but for me it's just normal

  • @prateekpraharaj9744
    @prateekpraharaj9744 4 роки тому +38

    Thanx for the video. Actually i had asked for this topic in the last video. Didnt expect it to come out so soon. Great job😀

  • @JayS1998
    @JayS1998 3 роки тому +131

    I would 100% be an arm aimer but one swipe of my arm and im at the other side of my room

    • @salad2357
      @salad2357 3 роки тому +9

      play on floor

    • @tejthetoj4907
      @tejthetoj4907 3 роки тому +1

      @@salad2357 lmao

    • @salad2357
      @salad2357 3 роки тому

      @@tejthetoj4907 well im not wrong unless u have a pc instead of computer

    • @DeletoMui
      @DeletoMui 3 роки тому

      @@salad2357 Nino is better

  • @valorantrecap7992
    @valorantrecap7992 4 роки тому +92

    I’m a wrist aimer cause my mouse pad isnt big any i also dont have table space

    • @akshara6984
      @akshara6984 4 роки тому +9

      Bro it only depends on skill nothing is wrist or arm if your comfortable with wrist you can easily beat any arm gamer

    • @akshara6984
      @akshara6984 4 роки тому +2

      My table also have more space i am also wrist gamer like you

    • @valorantrecap7992
      @valorantrecap7992 4 роки тому +5

      DRIFTY if your table/mouse pad is small it is harder to arm aim because if you flick you will run out of space so either your mouse will fall of the table/mousepad, only way i can arm aim with my setup is if i get really high sens and im already comfortable with mine so yeahh

    • @GlockJ
      @GlockJ 3 роки тому +1

      I got a huge mouse pad and huge desk I use 5000 dpi

    • @kernay5780
      @kernay5780 3 роки тому

      @@akshara6984 Agreed...1000%

  • @x.kitsune
    @x.kitsune 3 роки тому +46

    Personal tips here from someone who was solely a wrist aimer who swapped completely to arm aiming... I swapped because I started to get a lot of pain and fatigue in my wrist when I started to play my first fps games and this resulted pretty quickly in me realizing I was complete shit at these games so I really tried to improve and grind in aim trainers to get better. Even with wrist aiming I improved very quickly at first, but my wrist hurt like hell some days and would really just ache and throb after an intense aim training session. So I decided to train myself out of wrist aiming not because I thought it was the superior method but just for health reasons which I think is the more important factor really. It took a ton of practice, but first off I had to have a setup that would allow me the room to put my arm up to my elbow on the table as well as a large enough mouse mat (in my case a desk mat). Once I had the room though and started practicing, I had to lower my edpi a lot, by more than half (I currently use 400dpi x 0.6 sens), this coupled with practicing on wide 180-360 degree aim training scenarios, automatically made me use my arm more just to get my arm used to actually moving as part of my aim. But especially in the beginning often I'd find that after like 5-10mins of practicing I'd get what I call "lazy arm" where I'd start to naturally go back to aiming mostly with my wrist even with my arm on the table and with my lower edpi, I'd undershoot my targets and feel the fatigue in my wrist. What I'd do (& still do) when this happens is I just have 2 dpi settings on my mouse, my natural 400 and a halved 200, when I feel my arm getting "lazy" I just go down to 200 dpi for a few minutes in an aim trainer and this forces me to make over-exaggerated larger arm movements than I normally would have to. Then I switch back to my regular dpi, get readjusted for a min or so and my aim feels much crispier & responsive and my arm isn't being "lazy" anymore making my wrist do all the work. This was something I had to do often, I'd be so focused on the scenarios in front of me that it wouldn't be until my scores started plummeting and my wrist was throbbing that I'd notice that I wasn't really using much of my arm anymore again. Over time I just naturally used more of my arm for longer periods of time until it became a lot more natural. I still get "lazy arm" sometimes, but a lot less frequently and it takes a lot less time to just readjust, like 30 seconds or so or even just a short break if my arm is fatigued and I'm back to normal. Also this seems like a no-brainer, but just remembering to set my whole arm up to my elbow on the table before I even grabbed my mouse for regular computer use or whatever was good practice to remind myself that I was trying to practice to switch to use my whole arm. Also using a lower mouse dpi with a higher sens in game will force you to make larger mouse movements when just browsing the internet or doing whatever you normally do on the computer, this can help you get more used to the larger movements with your arm as well.
    Side note; I'm not saying that arm aiming is better for actual gaming, or that you'll be a better aimer with it, this is just health related advice.. personally I've already had a massive injury and surgery to my left wrist (non-gaming related), where half my wrist & a few of my hand bones are fused together so I have limited movement on that side as well as chronic arthritis.. but having that injury made me take my health more seriously and think about what something that's just a hobby for me could cost me. Having 2 gimped wrists would really suck. Idk if I would be able to aim just as well with just my wrist today if I grinded the same amount of time, probably, maybe I'd even be slightly better not having to take time to retrain myself.. but in the long run it would probably end up being problematic with injury and stuff and sometimes there's nothing you can do to really help your wrist other than quitting altogether. So imo, if you play regularly, like multiple hours in a session at least a few days a week it's probably better to train yourself out of it while you can and have a healthier, less painful experience in the long run.

    • @hazy4603
      @hazy4603 3 роки тому +2

      this is actually an insane answer, and I find I am very similar. my muscle memory has been built on approx 0.3-0.4 sens @ 800dpi, so a fairly average sensitivity - but i find that if i am feeling lazy i will switch from purely wrist aiming, to a kind of wrist/arm hybrid, which fits about right for my middling sensitivity, but is not particularly precise, so i often find myself either halving my sens to 0.2 or doubling it to 0.6 (using the upper and lower bounds of my usual sens "range", i fiddle with it a lot) depending on whether i felt like my mouse was dragging/too sluggish or if it was too snappy and all over the place! in siege, i learnt the game mostly arm aiming (3 or 4 sens which ≈ 0.25 or 0.3 in valorant at 800), and then the carryover to valorant was fairly simple. i struggle to decide between a snappier and faster 0.6 wrist aim sens, which feels better to play on, but my accuracy is awful, compared to 0.3ish where i can flick with my wrist and track with my arm, which i find to be a lot more stable in terms of crosshair placement shots and spray control

    • @nyox2978
      @nyox2978 2 роки тому +1

      My question is , is ist ok to ONLY Arm like like even for small adjustments and do and pros do ONLY arm aiming

    • @x.kitsune
      @x.kitsune 2 роки тому +1

      @@nyox2978 i dont think anyone ONLY arm aims, I doubt that's really possible. you're naturally going to use your wrist for adjustments. most people have to train themselves to use their arm in the 1st place. you'd just be crippling yourself to not use your wrist.. unless you're like in a cast or have your wrist fused there's no reason why you wouldn't use your wrist and fingers for minor adjustments.

    • @XisStealth
      @XisStealth 2 роки тому +2

      U just wrote a thesis

    • @DeadMemeMan
      @DeadMemeMan Рік тому +3

      bro got me reading a whole book 💀

  • @jackojuice8691
    @jackojuice8691 4 роки тому +19

    1:53 wrist aiming*

  • @koshkamatew
    @koshkamatew 2 роки тому +6

    you know its a good guide when they have the same mousepad as you do

    • @adamas9676
      @adamas9676 2 роки тому

      bruh 🤣🤣🤣 so true 💯💯💯

  • @icarorn
    @icarorn 3 роки тому +10

    imo the best is a hybrid between wrist and arm aiming, i use kind of a medium high sens (380 edpi) and i mostly aim with my wrist because ive been doing it for 10+ years but i use my arm muscles to do big flicks and 180s, ive tested many sens since the beta and seems to me that between 300 and 400 edpi is the sweet spot to use both wrist aim and arm aim

    • @iLikeRevenge.
      @iLikeRevenge. 2 роки тому +1

      Has you’re opinion changed on this?I play in that range and I do notice that, have you improved since the last time u posted this?

    • @icarorn
      @icarorn 2 роки тому

      @@iLikeRevenge. i havent played in a while but i did manage to peak at diamond rank with that sens before stopping and my aim was really consistent. keep in mind i used to do lots of aimlabs on a daily basis tho

  • @janisen07
    @janisen07 2 роки тому +2

    I wrist aim solely because I’m too lazy to use my arm, wrist takes less effort

  • @Thundr4x
    @Thundr4x 2 роки тому +2

    To those who ask. You can’t limit yourself by using only aim or wrist aiming. Should do both. Arm aiming when checking corners and wrist aiming when point to enemy and adjust your aim. It’s called “micro aim adjustment”

    • @30ajgo
      @30ajgo Рік тому

      Unless your clears out the whole desk of course.

  • @6stringstorulethemall967
    @6stringstorulethemall967 3 роки тому +22

    I've always used my wrist to aim and fingers to do small movements

  • @coasterthekid8867
    @coasterthekid8867 2 роки тому +4

    I've always used a really high sensitivity, whether on a controller or mouse, so I naturally found wrist aiming more comfortable. I use 3200 dpi with a .6 sensitivity which is equivalent to 2.4 sens with 800 dpi or 1920 edpi. I know that sounds like a lot but I think its related to my extensive time on controller as well as my COD trickshotting background. Essentially, good trickshotting requires max sens on console and I didn't want to switch to a new sens every time I hit last so I just started playing on max sens all the time and eventually got used to it. Max sens on console combined with great spin timing from years of trickshotting allowed me to perform insane flicks on controller that allowed me to compete with pc players but now that I use KBM for most competitive shooters, I use wrist aiming combined with high dpi. I think the reason for this is because it sort of reminds me of aiming with an analog in the sense that I'm doing insanely small inputs but still rotating my FOV a lot.

    • @Daniel-kb3mf
      @Daniel-kb3mf 2 роки тому

      which rank you achieved in valorant?

  • @ivanh04
    @ivanh04 3 роки тому +73

    I'm a wrist airmer who is desperately trying to arm aim but man it's so difficult I always end up switching back to wrist and raising my sensitivity. I am slowing adjusting though. I went from 1600 dpi to 800 dpi in valorant in game sensitivity 1.61.

    • @asdfkjhlk34
      @asdfkjhlk34 3 роки тому +5

      It's probably harder because you didn't lower it enough to really use your arm. 800dpi 1.6 sens is still a very high sensitivity that I wouldn't even arm aim on . You need to go down to like 800dpi .5 sens

    • @tusharkanwaria267
      @tusharkanwaria267 3 роки тому +1

      @@asdfkjhlk34 bro I'm a 1000 dpi 1.3 sensi. Can't go any lower

    • @ZRROR
      @ZRROR 3 роки тому +1

      Same here I have been a wrist aimer for around a decade and I don't think I'll be able to switch so easily. Current playing with 2600dpi with 1.0, 1.2 (scope) in game sens

    • @humangaming2024
      @humangaming2024 3 роки тому +1

      I go for 1600 dpi 0.2 valorant sens

    • @BlackMoridin
      @BlackMoridin 3 роки тому +1

      I used to be a high lvl rts player when i was younger (C&C3) and rts players have high dpi usually. So i had to teach myself to go from 5k to lower for FPS games XD I play at 3200 DPI and 0.4 sens and i'm doing well in game. And it seems perfect for me.

  • @joshuabuena8049
    @joshuabuena8049 3 роки тому +4

    i've been playing starcraft for sooo long that I know that wrist aiming is embedded in my DNA.

  • @milosgrujic9118
    @milosgrujic9118 3 роки тому +8

    Aiming mastery is hidden in combination of both wrist and arm aiming. Let your wrist do the work localy and move your wrist with an arm where it needs to work.

  • @marzfire6691
    @marzfire6691 3 роки тому +1

    I used to be a wrist aimer but 5 years ago I found out using your wrist mainly will increase your chances of carpal tunnel so I switched immediently and I've been an arm aimer for many years now

  • @ravenpie12
    @ravenpie12 3 роки тому +6

    I would just use both arm aim for the flick and wrist aim for precision

  • @renzoosuna6703
    @renzoosuna6703 3 роки тому +4

    I play at 3.000+ DPI and it is still pretty slow for me, I wonder why my friends thinks I'm an alien

  • @101distortion4
    @101distortion4 2 роки тому +1

    i do both wrist and arm aiming. Ive been wrist aiming for about 7 years and tried arm aiming for the first time about a year ago, i had no issues when wrist aiming, tho, i had this problem if i aimed too much with my arm, i feel tingly cramps around my forearm. This has been going on ever since i started arm aiming.

  • @vaughnandrecamangyan5929
    @vaughnandrecamangyan5929 3 роки тому +8

    So if Scream has eDPI of 306 and still a wrist aimer, does that mean he lifts his mouse when dragging is out of range? 😳

    • @MrSix92
      @MrSix92 3 роки тому +1

      306 is huge so its logical

    • @ronniestoneguitar
      @ronniestoneguitar 3 роки тому

      I'm not Scream but my eDPI is 220 and I aim primarily with my wrist but I use my arm to do bigger turns.

  • @mikewazowski8329
    @mikewazowski8329 3 роки тому +40

    bruh wtf i just found out my edpi is 1900, no wonder I was bottom fragging every damn game

    • @Framax00
      @Framax00 3 роки тому

      Sameee, Ive using a edpi of 1900 and trying to use arm aiming, i'm gonna try a lower one to see if it's better, your comment it's 2 months ago, what have You done about your edpi?
      PD: Sorry for My Bad English, i speak spanish xc

    • @mikewazowski8329
      @mikewazowski8329 3 роки тому +1

      @@Framax00 oh haha it looks like you had the same problem as me, I just started off using around 800 edpi, and kept lowering it down to what felt comfortable to me, while using arm aiming. I also checked out what edpi my favorite pros were using and tried them out too.

    • @Framax00
      @Framax00 3 роки тому

      @@mikewazowski8329 yes XS, thanks for the reply, i did the same and it feels waaaaay better now ^^. I didnt check the edpi of My fav pros, i should do that thank youuu, have a Nice day ;)

  • @Ian-oh1nq
    @Ian-oh1nq 4 роки тому +10

    Using both aiming techniques actually work pretty good for me you should try it out as well

  •  4 роки тому +4

    I got to Dia1, almost Dia2 with wrist aiming. But I personally think arm/elbow aiming is much better for fps games. I'm playing on 1500 dpi with 0.42 sensitivity.

    •  4 роки тому

      And my mouse pad is about 20x30 cm lol

    • @dev1lcs614
      @dev1lcs614 4 роки тому

      U should play a normal mid high sens

    • @dev1lcs614
      @dev1lcs614 4 роки тому

      @ im playing on 800
      Dpi 0.487 the sens of Ure friends seems kinda average though

    • @dev1lcs614
      @dev1lcs614 4 роки тому

      @ Ik it’s still an average sens cause it’s Good

  • @rei7
    @rei7 2 роки тому +1

    Iam a wrist aimer and i play on 800dpi with .375 sens in-game.

  • @cheerioce
    @cheerioce 3 роки тому +2

    I started as a arm player and still am. I didn't know I should have made my sens low. I had that shit high af

    • @r3mii-CL
      @r3mii-CL 3 роки тому

      My high too and I arm aim. 1000 dpi and .7

  • @boovvy
    @boovvy 3 роки тому +12

    i always thought my sens is relatively average, but when you said edpi higher than 450 is considered fast... i looked up mine and its 1120 xd

    • @JPshowsports
      @JPshowsports 3 роки тому +1

      Mine use to be 1600

    • @Naif3mk
      @Naif3mk 3 роки тому

      @@JPshowsports mine is like 3k lol but my friend give me his 400 dpi and shii it’s hard I wanna switch to my old dpi but damn I played to much on 400 and my aim is on 3k is bad 🙁so I’m stuck atm

  • @sushmitdey144
    @sushmitdey144 3 роки тому +3

    I have uneven shoulders.. My right shoulder is actually smaller and lower than the left one.. Its hard to do flicks with it

    • @sudhanshu9831
      @sudhanshu9831 3 роки тому +1

      You have to use one arm to aim 🤷

  • @Nitriikx
    @Nitriikx Рік тому

    I was always used to high sensitivity on desktop, LoL, arcade FPS like CoD etc ...
    Didn't even know that some people use the entire arm to aim, now I understand why I struggle with headshots.
    I checked, and I was playing with 1800DPI and 2.2 sensitivty in game, so almost 4000EDPI

  • @Krygerium
    @Krygerium 4 роки тому +15

    Best tutorials and best channel which is dedicated for noobs like me😉

  • @nterbeastro-slayers9528
    @nterbeastro-slayers9528 3 роки тому +1

    Bro I am a wrist aimer and since you mentioned injusry my wrist is hurting for God knows reason

  • @SMHakimulIslam
    @SMHakimulIslam 3 роки тому

    was a wrist aimer, now I'm both wrist and arm. since wrist only kind of restrict movements, I use arm when I need to make wide turns. I can neither play with too high sens nor too low sens and nor can do a lot of mouse movements, so I balance between a lot of movement and a lot of sensitivity which is 800dpi, 500hz, 0.45 in-game sens in valorant.

  • @rabidrabbittt
    @rabidrabbittt 2 роки тому +1

    i have flicked glass cups off my desk multiple times and shattered it all over the ground but i feel like its been worth it

  • @AlmightyOne24
    @AlmightyOne24 3 роки тому

    I've been a league player for 10+ years now and have achieved the top of the ranks and also competed locally in big tournaments. Now I wanna try a new challenge with fps games that I've never touched. I wanna try arm aiming hehe. Wish me luck

  • @ssdheeraj6347
    @ssdheeraj6347 3 роки тому

    I am wrist player now I got a problem with it (carpal tunnel syndrome)
    so after watching this video I shifted to arm

  • @williamnield7133
    @williamnield7133 3 роки тому

    i genuinely checked if this video was looped halfway though

  • @ilym1st670
    @ilym1st670 3 роки тому +6

    him: explaining how you usually have higher sens while wrist aiming since you can't make big movements easily
    people who use mouse accel: i'm 4 parallel universes ahead of you

    • @Millzieeeee
      @Millzieeeee 3 роки тому +1

      Hahaha mouse ACC = missing your shots , you want RAW input ONLY

    • @ilym1st670
      @ilym1st670 3 роки тому +2

      @@Millzieeeee bruh no u just gotta get used to it lol

    • @kimboyAQ
      @kimboyAQ 3 роки тому

      @@ilym1st670 no

  • @robloxianflexgod347
    @robloxianflexgod347 3 роки тому +1

    Everyone should use a hybrid of the two, arm more for movement and wrist for shooting range

    • @spetsnaz4537
      @spetsnaz4537 3 роки тому

      i figured this out instantly, never bottomfragged since

  • @SteezyLab
    @SteezyLab 3 роки тому

    I am doing wrist aiming but i will try arm aiming thank you

  • @priyanshubarola5503
    @priyanshubarola5503 Рік тому

    I was a wrist aimer for a year 800dpi 1.6 sens and now i switched to 800 dpi 0.506 and i see consistent improvement , before someday i was a vct player another day i saw grass everywhere but now i am better than yesterday at the end of the day flicks are cool but cannot always make you win always

  • @mariuzmadden8552
    @mariuzmadden8552 Рік тому

    I do both use my arm to cover large distances and when the crosshair is at wrist distance of an enemies head I stop my arm and use my wrist. If I need to adjust up and down I use my fingers, so my shoulder takes less of a toll.

  • @Comando115
    @Comando115 3 роки тому +1

    So true, i've been doing wrist aim since i was 10 now im 25 and i felt my arm and cromion destroyed after 1 week of arm practicing without any chance o kill anyone, now 2 weeks later i can get more than 50 kills, i made the mistake of raising my hand to aim so needed to add other 3 days to reload my arm to the desk, then i included wrist aim for far and conglomerated enemies so I couldn´t kill again lol, it took me another 2 days to handle how to switch between them depending of the circunstances, also add 1 more week due to sensivity changes and 360/cms modifies, all its about practice im really obssesed with this but now i finally stand out on the scoreboard

  • @Collin_Nicholas
    @Collin_Nicholas 3 роки тому

    I was a wrist aimer but had to get surgery to do Cubital Tunnel. (Had scar tissue compressing my nerve in my wrist/elbow.) Now moving to arm aiming.

    • @idkrossplay
      @idkrossplay 3 роки тому

      Just switch to lefty then you can be a wrist aimer again

  • @MGSRR1279
    @MGSRR1279 3 роки тому

    I play a hybrid of both, arm for wider aim, wrist for smaller adjustments.

  • @skinity12cn70
    @skinity12cn70 3 роки тому +10

    Ans then there's me who has a EDPI of 3200 in every game. Guess it's just years of practice with that DPI that I just don't like any DPI lower than that

    • @soldiercantkill
      @soldiercantkill 3 роки тому +2

      Every game has different edpis, 500 edpi in valorant isn't the same sens as 500 edpi in csgo

    • @josephray6264
      @josephray6264 3 роки тому +2

      if you good with it then dont change it

  • @GeneralYoshi
    @GeneralYoshi Рік тому

    It has been a subject of debate whether relying predominantly on wrist movement for aiming in gaming can lead to potential physical strain. While acknowledging the validity of concerns related to potential harm, I firmly hold the belief that viable strategies exist to mitigate this issue. One such approach involves integrating targeted hand and wrist exercises into one's routine. By incorporating a comprehensive workout regimen, individuals can enhance the endurance and strength of these crucial anatomical components. This, in turn, can contribute to fostering a balanced aiming technique that minimizes the risk of strain associated with excessive wrist usage. It is essential to recognize that achieving optimal precision and comfort in gaming necessitates a holistic approach that encompasses both refined wrist movements and the engagement of the entire arm. Ultimately, through a combination of ergonomic practices, exercise, and mindful gameplay, gamers can strike a harmonious equilibrium between wrist and arm utilization, thus promoting both performance and physical well-being. I hope this helped young gamers.

  • @domestx
    @domestx 3 роки тому +2

    I use both, I use wrist to go left and right and arm to go up and down

  • @Healp145
    @Healp145 2 роки тому

    train on both low and high sens so you can help train your arm movements and wrist movements

  • @novy1198
    @novy1198 2 роки тому

    Wrist for fast Flicks etc, arm for vheching corners etc

  • @redtesta
    @redtesta 3 роки тому +3

    guys like this should have 100's of thousands of subs whether here or twitch. They give a lot to help you in gaming and many other things.

  • @giovannivanhouten685
    @giovannivanhouten685 3 роки тому

    Started wrist aiming today and crancked up the sens feels good

  • @leo-ub6nb
    @leo-ub6nb 4 роки тому +50

    Me arm aiming: *Swipes left and hits keyboard* "FRICK!" *Dies* "OMG!!!?"
    2nd Round: *Swipes left but lifts mouse up and smacks monitor* "FINALLY! I didn't hit my keyboard. Let's get it!!!!"

    • @playerxxx
      @playerxxx 3 роки тому

      It's like that, well, that's annoying when this happens...

  • @thug_mon
    @thug_mon 3 роки тому +1

    Leg aiming is way better than both

  • @h4bby558
    @h4bby558 4 роки тому +1

    Best video i hav seen for wrist vs arm aiming

  • @anope9053
    @anope9053 2 роки тому

    i use raw accel as a wrist aimer so i can still make wide adjustments without sacrificing small ones

  • @290198Nicholas
    @290198Nicholas 3 роки тому

    Tbh, arm aiming is more relieved my wrist than wrist aiming. However, my desk is pretty small. That there is no choice I should do in wrist aiming and increase my sensitivity around 1.5

  • @richielek
    @richielek 4 роки тому +1

    im a wrist aimer and i really worry about my wrist health, i really want to change habbit but i can't let go of my muscle memory, i've nailed nut flicks with my wrist

    • @caskin6793
      @caskin6793 3 роки тому

      stretches throughout your gameplay should be good!

  • @trollingisasport
    @trollingisasport 2 роки тому

    I flick my wrist to get in the area then use the muscle in my arm to make macro movements to stay on the target.

  • @ilovevalorantandallgames
    @ilovevalorantandallgames 2 роки тому

    my wrist has been hurting sometimes so i'll try arm aiming

  • @idrian
    @idrian 3 роки тому +3

    Damn my edpi is 176 and keeps getting lower day by day i need to try fast sens

  • @jordieohlweiler1413
    @jordieohlweiler1413 3 роки тому +1

    I like really high edpi and the people think I’m strange.
    (I mean, they’re right, I use 4000 dpi with 1 sensitivity)
    But I can only do a 180 if I really force my wrist

    • @kuro758
      @kuro758 3 роки тому

      Then it's probably not 4000 because I can easily 180 on 1600 with 1 sens
      & I'm wrist user too, with small mousepad

  • @CounttlessYT
    @CounttlessYT 3 роки тому

    I am both of these, as I use both of them depending on what I need them for.
    Since I play Valorant I need little Arm Movement, but my EDPI is 400, with a Sens of 0.5 and DPI of 800.
    I used to be wrist only gamer as I had little space to use, and my sensitivity would be 1600 and DPI of 1000, which is insane as I can no longer make those movements, but the more I get used to an EDPI the faster I feel with it going out of control. I have changed my sensitivity 4 times within 1 year.

  • @prestonhill9046
    @prestonhill9046 2 роки тому

    i’ve always used wrist aiming but i had no clue what that even meant thx for this video(also for the health part because of i sense i’ve always used my pinky finger to slow my mouse aim for hard shots and it hurts

  • @cocomilk253
    @cocomilk253 3 роки тому

    as a wrist aimer for a long time. i hate being high sens but im used to it. sometimes my wrist positions in weird angles because i rarely carry my mouse or my hand gets awkward positions which sometimes hurt and forces me to reposition my hand which loses my focus. the inconsistency of being a highsens is more. on a good day i feel like a god but shortly after i turn into a bot and viceversa.

    • @cocomilk253
      @cocomilk253 3 роки тому

      i play with 1k dpi and 0.5 sens = 500 eDPi. using OP as a wrist aimer is quite easy

  • @Astrein0017
    @Astrein0017 4 роки тому +1

    I used to wrist aim cause I had a tiny notebook as a mousepad, but recently I bought a big gaming mousepad and my aim has been getting worse and worse so I tryied changing sensitivity (before I had 1800 dpi & 0.35 sens now I have 1500 dpi and 0.3 sens (450 edpi)) I have also tryied arm aiming but that just makes it even worse, cherry on top is that idk why but sometimes my mouse stops detecting that its over the mousepad and stops working, resulting in my aim freeze some seconds

  • @xiphias304
    @xiphias304 2 роки тому +1

    me who uses a small mouse: i do finger aiming.

  • @AuxiliaryChordy
    @AuxiliaryChordy 2 роки тому

    I cant stop wrist aiming its to comfortable for me, but I cant even fit my whole arm on my desk so I couldn't even do it if I wanted to

  • @bhavesh__gaikwad
    @bhavesh__gaikwad 4 роки тому

    I'm wrist aimer with 1600dpi and 1.4 in-game sensi
    I think i need to lower a lot, thx for guide!

  • @zaptuno9148
    @zaptuno9148 3 роки тому +4

    my edpi is 706 and from your explanation I am an arm aimer xD

    • @jmalmighty5433
      @jmalmighty5433 3 роки тому

      bro how many 360 do u do before hitting ur shot GODDAM

    • @zaptuno9148
      @zaptuno9148 3 роки тому

      @@jmalmighty5433 LMAO xD I don't 360 unless i have to peak behind me and infornt of me at the same time

  • @nysirjones4123
    @nysirjones4123 3 роки тому

    I'm surprised that people didn't go straight to arm aiming I have been on pc for about 4 months now and I couldn't only use my wrist it felt so bad and I felt more consistent with my arm only thing is I have a small mouse pad meant for wrist players so I hit my keyboard all the time lmao but great video!

  • @motion7227
    @motion7227 3 роки тому +1

    brother you are the most usefull and helpful person in my whole life.. you always clear all my problems in valorant,... thanksyou so much... btw is 1.56 sensi (my sensi with default dpi) too high?

  • @bluejy930
    @bluejy930 8 місяців тому

    somewhat both, although i use more of my wrist i actually use my elbow and kind of a achor and i only bigger swipes as i slide my elbow across my desk and for very small and slow movements i use my wrist

  • @challas_frc
    @challas_frc 3 роки тому

    I used to aim with my arm but i moved and got a smaller desk and naturally started wrist aiming

  • @RomanBellicTaxi
    @RomanBellicTaxi 3 роки тому

    I'm a (failed) guitar player who had elbow tendinitis for using my arm too much when playing. Elbow tendinitis is no joke, I mean, every tendinitis is fecking bad but on the elbow is like a curse, there's no position you leave your arm to even alleviate the pain. After it I could only use use wrist or even only fingers, so I can't play any FPS game with my arm. TBH I'm also a failed player, but after such pain I would never go back into doing such things again. That being said it's not like playing instruments and playing games are the same thing, but, your mind tricks you sometimes, y'know.

  • @AbuAhmed0007
    @AbuAhmed0007 3 роки тому +1

    I’m a WRIST AIMIER and I play with 3200 dpi and on csgo setting 2.40 mouse sensitivity.

    • @ntsk2t-bs5mt
      @ntsk2t-bs5mt 3 роки тому

      that’s impossible bro. Ur capping

  • @MrAmbrosse
    @MrAmbrosse 4 роки тому +3

    What about finger tips? I use finger tips, wrist, and I started using arm now that I lowered my edpi to 425. I think EDPI below 425 doesn't feel snappy.

  • @rancor4513
    @rancor4513 3 роки тому +1

    I have a decent space for my mouse, a 30x80 deskmatt, minus the full size keyboard its a decent space, i do arm aiming but sometimes wrist for very small movement

  • @sky361
    @sky361 4 роки тому +2

    I am a mixed aimer. I have a lot of space where I game but I don't game on a desk atm so at times I use my wrist only and other times I use my arm and wrist. working on getting a desk tho. (the desks at my house have a glossy finish and my mouse cant track movement on glossy surfaces. Also, I don't have a mousepad yet :( This will change soon)

    • @stupidlix
      @stupidlix 4 роки тому +1

      Just get a 5$ mouse pad

    • @GameZero2
      @GameZero2 4 роки тому

      Dude get a big mouse pad u can get one around 10 dollars .

  • @Feyolen
    @Feyolen 4 роки тому

    Haven’t watched the video but imo wrist aiming if you don’t have much mousepad space. Wrist aiming even if you do but arm aim for big flicks or 180s.
    My eDPI is about 280

  • @BassFraud
    @BassFraud 3 роки тому +1

    This very is %1000 facts,
    I used to be a wrist aimer when I first started on MnK but then started lowering my sensitivity and learned to aim with my arm. The best way to learn arm aim is to palm grip. Palm grip felt very unnatural but it helped me so much. I can do very accurate flicks with my arm and make micro adjustments for recoils with my fingers. I respect players that play with low sensitivity on MnK because it’s harder to get used to learn Arm Aiming and it requires more energy. So if you can have a fast arm and have low sensitivity at the same time. You’re going to dominate everyone EZ

  • @dragonrekt3713
    @dragonrekt3713 2 роки тому

    Never knew wrist aiming existed now i know why my friends say their hands hurt

  • @donaldtoleco378
    @donaldtoleco378 2 роки тому

    Well im a combination of both arm and wrist aiming...im used to it since i was 7years old. Playing cs 1.6

  • @6enesix
    @6enesix 3 роки тому +1

    large mousepad stocks after this video 📈

  • @blufa3192
    @blufa3192 3 роки тому

    I'm might switch to arm aiming as a lot of pros arm aim but wrist aiming feels nice and I've been doing it for Soooooo long

  • @HojaFPS
    @HojaFPS Рік тому

    I m arm aimer but trying to get higher - so i can use arm for big movement and wrist for small adjustments

  • @je9779
    @je9779 3 роки тому

    Im a wrist aimer and i just adjust my sens so i dont stretch my wrist too much

  • @pitterr5
    @pitterr5 2 роки тому

    im literally flicking my wrist out everyday and it never did hurt whatsoever, like i dunno how you've gotta play to make it hurt from just flicking around