*Looked at a lot of options for getting my **Latest.Bike** . Great find in SAVA. Super light, nice components, really good value as it comes with many options only found in much higher priced bikes.*
Looks very nice but it’s a shame Canyon doesn’t offer fully integrated cockpits where all cables can be routed inside. I own a Wilier Cento NDR with disc brakes and the handlebar is 100% cable free. It’s so nice!
Yes, probably. It depends also of the size of the aerocockpit or the handlebar + stem combination. Can't talk about the H18 or H31 but the H36 feels far more rigid than the previous setup without compromise confort and think this are important points to consider. At the end, both keeps the same angle (even when H36 looks more negative/agresive angle, is the same as V13), so the small changes are in the drops and the flatten profile of the handlebar that slightly reduce the overall height of the handlebar and the stem in clamp bolts area arround 1cm.
baychev probably, and less comfortable too. When I changed the cockpit I never thought on aerodynamic gains. Canyon claims that the H36 offers an efficiency of 5W at 40kph in terms of aerodynamic improvement but I think that for my ride style and usage I found the stiffness and confort of the wider handlebar are more valuable improvements than the aerodynamics.
Hi, if you're still reading the comments: I just bought a used Canyon Ultimate off someone, and the out-front mount of the H36 is chronically loose. The bolts tighten up while there is still wiggle room (1-2mm) for the plastic cover & outfront mount. Am I missing a layer of some kind? Currently I just have the two long screws through the plastic cable cover and the out-front mount. I cannot find a manual or anything online so far. I could just fill the wiggle room up with some foam but I find it very odd, so I wanted to check. If you know more, I'd love to hear it!
GOLF CAT hello! Not sure if I understand your question but it depends of your editing software. I use premiere pro so I right click the clip - speed/duration - then I set the desire time that I want.
Thanks for the video. If I see correctly you managed to hide the junction box under the bar/stem. Is that what Canyon suggested or you just found space ? How do you charge Di2 in that case ?
Hi!, The cockpit has a space intended for this purposes and the central cap below of the handlebar has a flexible part the you can carefully pull down to expose a little the charge unit and connect the cable. It's a little tricky but not a big deal, just be carefull of not broke that little and flexbible notch. Once cable is connected the cable itself keeps all in place, when you disconnect the cable, all remains hide again.
4:09 "...and cut the steerer tube if necessary". It seems like voluntary step, however in case, I want to keep aerocockpit in the same height as I am used with my standard cockpit, do I need to cut any lenght ? I have Grizl, meaning Stem V13 90mm. Please advise.
Cut is not necessary you can put the spacer over/under the aerocockpit but a caveat: as far as I remember, the aerocockpit height is lower than V13 stem, it means if you keep the steer tube length, you must check when you mount everything that there is no gaps between the spacers/top cap/ aerocockpit/frame.
Hi. I have a size S Ultimate CF 8. I wish to have a more upright Cycling position for long tour. Any idea recommendation where I could get a stem replacement with a riser perhaps?
Maverick TechReview Hi! I think Canyon only manufactures stem with +/- 6 degrees, so the options would be to look for another brand with a greater inclination, use all spacers or even use a slightly shorter stem to push the body back a little, but the latter would have an impact on the bike fit so I do not think it is the most recommended. Keep in mind that it is mainly a matter of bike frame geometry, the Ultimate although has a slightly more relaxed posture than the Aeroad, maintains features designed for competition, which creates a more aggressive posture. As an example of this think that the Endurace uses stem of +/- 6 degrees too, what creates the most relaxed posture for long rides is its geometry a little more relaxed than the Ultimate.
Thanks for this. Could you advise on the actual effective stem length on the H36 cockpit (from centre bolt)? I've read some people say they measure up longer than what Canyon advertise, e.g., the 100mm is more like 115mm etc...would help me decide which size to order!
blablablamyname My short answer is: measure what Canyon indicates, in this case 100mm. What I think happens and confuses people is that, right in the center, the handlebar looks wider, so it seems that the center of the handlebar is further forward and for that reason people consider that the stem is longer than the indicated, but at the extremes, where the hands are actually placed, it is less wide and from the center of the handlebar to the center of the bolt it measures 100mm (the measurement indicated in this case). You can ask Canyon but what I could see the measurement is correct. The fact that the handlebar is not a cylinder and the width is variable along the handlebar implies that the way to measure the stem is not as straight forward as a conventional handlebar.
great video. on canyon website when you want to purchase the H36 cockpit, you have to choose a length size but I have no idea what size should I get? I am on H17 and H13 set up and I dont know what is the current size of my cockpit so i could find a match! any hint?
I think it depends of your bike fit configuration, maybe better ask to a bike fitter. As an starting point, check the bike size charts in Canyon ‘s website, there you can see the stem size according to frame size. I think a combination of Canyon website information and bike fitter advice is the best.
Алексей Тимоня Hi! Maybe, it depends how long the cables are to be able to move the shifters easy and safely without pulling the cables. Personally I think could be a mess have shifters and cables hanging out there, holding the fork and trying to install the aerocockpit all at the same time.
Hello.I have been using H31 ergocockpit with H31 spacer kit.This year I change my handlebar to H11.In your video I think you used aero spacer kit for H11 and H36. When I install the handlebar with H11 aero spacer kit between top cap and last spacer has space which did not happened with H31 handlebar.You think aero spacer for H11 and H36 will be ok?Thank you.
Hi! It’s hard to say because a never see personally a H31 handlebar to say if it has different measurements to H36 or H31. Are you installing it on an Ultimate? The H11-H36 spacer kit is indicated for Aeroad, whereas H31 for Ultimate and Endurance. My Aero spacer kit is indicated as H31, as you can see the bolt in transition plate is behind, pointing to the saddle, the H31-H36 you can see in pictures that the bolt is lateral. The only thing I can guess is transition plate or the integrated stem is lower so, the total height of the aerocockpit with all the spacers installed is lower than your previous setup with H31. I recommend you check first if the kit is the indicated with Canyon service, if everything is ok, measure the height of stem and the transition plate (spacers has standard height) to find the difference. If occurs that is lower, you have two options: add an spacers to fill the gap or cut the fork.
@@StevenMolina since I m not gonna use H31 due to changing sizes I will buy aerospacer kit for H11.The thing is in website it says H11 and H36 for Aeroad.Fork measurement is same so I think it will be fine.Thank you for your reply.
It’s worth for me. I like how it looks and like the more stiffness feeling it gives. The flat top of the aerocockpit is comfortable too. I don’t have comparable power data with similar testing conditions to talk properly about aerodynamic gains compared with previous setup but I think even with the specifications of Canyon the gains are marginals.
@@StevenMolina thanks! I figured as such. I have a Di2 setup too, and I like the cleaner lines, but installing it will skew with my bike fit. I prioritized getting a Hambini bottom bracket installed instead.
@@henrygascon9106 yeah, bike fit should be priority. That said, you can keep your stem length and handlebar width of your previous setup choosing the the aerocockpit with the same measures and dont affect your bike fit, the stem angle is the same of previous setup (+°6 angle). Some people thinks the angle is pointing down but is the same, looks like a negative angle due the flat top of the handlebar :).
@@StevenMolina thanks so much! I was a bit concerned about the angle but if there's no change, that's excellent. I'm connecting with my fitter to make sure I have the right size. I'll likely go with the H11.
Hi, thanks for the video. I’m upgrading my Endurance with the H31. One question about your upgrade: did you replace the wedge expander with the one shipped in the upgrade kit? And can you tell what the three little O-rings are meant for? Unfortunately Canyon doesn’t provide proper documentation. :-(
Christoph Lieck Hi! Yeah, the documentation is not much useful. I replaced the wedge expander. I cut my fork tube so, I must change de position of the wedge expander so, I used the new one. The 3 little o-ring provided are used to seal and create a “soft compression” for the top cap of the stem so, in order to avoid sweat into the stem and protecting the top cap of be broken I sort the items like: bolt/top cap/ o-ring/plastic tube /o-ring/o-ring. I followed the order of the item guided by the previous configuration of my V13 stem. I hope my explanation helps you!
@@SuperSmithy1985 Hi! I can’t talk about the Endurace but can talk about this Ultimate. This aerocockpit, in the area where the bolts are located is slightly lower than the V13 (about 3-5mm), the spacers and transitions plate are the same height so, when yo put all the spacers and the transition plate, you will see that the fork tube stands out a little bit. If you keep the things on this way the top cap don’t sits correctly over the stem and you will not be able to compress the bearings and adjust the things properly. In my case, now that I had to cut the fork tube, I put off 1 spacer (10mm) based on my bike fit setup and kept the others just in case. Thats the reason my top cap is flat over the stem, some people keeps all the spacers and put the spacers over the stem but personally I don’t like it. Finally, I cut it with a normal saw with fine teeth. Parktools sells specific saw for cutting carbon fibre but I did no have any problem or damage cutting with a normal one. You can find plenty of tutorials how to cut a fork securely. Always measure twice before cut.
@@StevenMolina question about size: I'm 172 sm should i order XS or S? also is it possible to order from Canyon the already upgraded handlebar to aerocockpit?
I don't have an additional garmin battery so not sure but comparing the Garmin mount and the Canyon mount the bottom looks the same in both mounts. The Canyon mount allows unscrew the plate that holds the garmin unit so probably you can exchange it for the required setup for mounting this kind of battery or any other accesories related to this kind of mount.
Chester Ho Hi! The cyclecomputer mount is sold separately. This is the garmin version, I think (but not sure) that exists the wahoo-compatible version, so be sure to purchase the correct one.
For bearings type and measures better contact Canyon. Now, if you mean for changing the stem/handlebar and spacers for the Aerocokpit you don’t to changes bearings.
It’s a stem+handlebar combo, you can’t change the stem length because both parts are fixed. You must select the right stem length for you when you are buying it in the Canyon website.
Stefan Thomson Yeah, maybe the part when I tighted the bolts is not very explanatory. The cap bolt depends of the adjust of the bearings in the headtube to avoid rocking in the fork, but around 2-3Nm did the job. Then, the bolts in the stem just require 5Nm indicated in the stem, is recommended start from 1Nm, and alternate the bolts, never put all the 5Nm in just one bolt at the time. When this bolds are in place with the specific torque you can tight the bolt in the spacers/transition plate, this is just for avoiding that the fork falls when you remove the aerocockpit, so, just require 1Nm. Thanks for your comment and sorry, I don’t see it till now.
Ana Ta Hi, why how it looks could not be a valid or the only reason? In the end, some of the reasons why we choose a bike over others is how it looks, right? ;). Now, I feel this aerocockpit more comfortable and stiffer and stable than previous setup. If you refers to watts saved, I never make a previous or post test, that never was my intention, frankly, I don’t care, haha. If you want to see how much whats saves this combo I suggest you visit the Canyon website, I think is around 5-7W at 40kph but I don’t really now, it doesn’t matter for me. The only invest in upgrades that I can talk more confident in term of big gains has been my powermeters.
Ana Ta no necessarily, probably somebody choose a car just because look awesome, other because need to carry something in a pick up, other need a little, fuel efficient car for high traffic in cities. ;) If you want make your bike even ligther or faster its ok, its your choice, not the definitive choice for others. Putting 250ml of less water in your bottle will make your bike around 250g lighter for free, always is your choice. ;)
Your filming/editing skills are on par with what you can do with the bike.
It’s a very good clip. Thank you!
Thanks! I just try to do my best.
totally agree with this comment.
*Looked at a lot of options for getting my **Latest.Bike** . Great find in SAVA. Super light, nice components, really good value as it comes with many options only found in much higher priced bikes.*
Looks very nice but it’s a shame Canyon doesn’t offer fully integrated cockpits where all cables can be routed inside. I own a Wilier Cento NDR with disc brakes and the handlebar is 100% cable free. It’s so nice!
Well full integration is only capable with disc brakes and not rim only if it's direct mount
Still cables outside. Canyon gotta get a move on this
Thx for uploading, so the Lightweigt option would be an CH H18 handlebar with aluminium stem and the aero one of the H31-36 options.
Yes, probably. It depends also of the size of the aerocockpit or the handlebar + stem combination. Can't talk about the H18 or H31 but the H36 feels far more rigid than the previous setup without compromise confort and think this are important points to consider. At the end, both keeps the same angle (even when H36 looks more negative/agresive angle, is the same as V13), so the small changes are in the drops and the flatten profile of the handlebar that slightly reduce the overall height of the handlebar and the stem in clamp bolts area arround 1cm.
Removing the spacers on the steering tube would have made you more aero than the new cockpit.
baychev probably, and less comfortable too. When I changed the cockpit I never thought on aerodynamic gains. Canyon claims that the H36 offers an efficiency of 5W at 40kph in terms of aerodynamic improvement but I think that for my ride style and usage I found the stiffness and confort of the wider handlebar are more valuable improvements than the aerodynamics.
nice video mate!
Can you tell me what the length of the handle bars? ie. from stem to the hoods?
Hi, if you're still reading the comments:
I just bought a used Canyon Ultimate off someone, and the out-front mount of the H36 is chronically loose. The bolts tighten up while there is still wiggle room (1-2mm) for the plastic cover & outfront mount. Am I missing a layer of some kind? Currently I just have the two long screws through the plastic cable cover and the out-front mount. I cannot find a manual or anything online so far. I could just fill the wiggle room up with some foam but I find it very odd, so I wanted to check. If you know more, I'd love to hear it!
I would check with Canyon 👍🏻. Maybe the wrong mount for the bar.
Nice video. I'm hoping a new Ultimate CF SLX frame will be introduced soon. Just wondering how you do the super fast forward in the edit?? Thanks
GOLF CAT hello! Not sure if I understand your question but it depends of your editing software. I use premiere pro so I right click the clip - speed/duration - then I set the desire time that I want.
Thanks for the video. If I see correctly you managed to hide the junction box under the bar/stem. Is that what Canyon suggested or you just found space ? How do you charge Di2 in that case ?
Hi!,
The cockpit has a space intended for this purposes and the central cap below of the handlebar has a flexible part the you can carefully pull down to expose a little the charge unit and connect the cable. It's a little tricky but not a big deal, just be carefull of not broke that little and flexbible notch. Once cable is connected the cable itself keeps all in place, when you disconnect the cable, all remains hide again.
What bar tape is this? Looks very nice :)
4:09 "...and cut the steerer tube if necessary". It seems like voluntary step, however in case, I want to keep aerocockpit in the same height as I am used with my standard cockpit, do I need to cut any lenght ? I have Grizl, meaning Stem V13 90mm. Please advise.
Cut is not necessary you can put the spacer over/under the aerocockpit but a caveat: as far as I remember, the aerocockpit height is lower than V13 stem, it means if you keep the steer tube length, you must check when you mount everything that there is no gaps between the spacers/top cap/ aerocockpit/frame.
Steven I got it, thanks a lot
Hi. I have a size S Ultimate CF 8. I wish to have a more upright Cycling position for long tour. Any idea recommendation where I could get a stem replacement with a riser perhaps?
Maverick TechReview Hi! I think Canyon only manufactures stem with +/- 6 degrees, so the options would be to look for another brand with a greater inclination, use all spacers or even use a slightly shorter stem to push the body back a little, but the latter would have an impact on the bike fit so I do not think it is the most recommended. Keep in mind that it is mainly a matter of bike frame geometry, the Ultimate although has a slightly more relaxed posture than the Aeroad, maintains features designed for competition, which creates a more aggressive posture. As an example of this think that the Endurace uses stem of +/- 6 degrees too, what creates the most relaxed posture for long rides is its geometry a little more relaxed than the Ultimate.
Thanks for this.
Could you advise on the actual effective stem length on the H36 cockpit (from centre bolt)? I've read some people say they measure up longer than what Canyon advertise, e.g., the 100mm is more like 115mm etc...would help me decide which size to order!
blablablamyname My short answer is: measure what Canyon indicates, in this case 100mm. What I think happens and confuses people is that, right in the center, the handlebar looks wider, so it seems that the center of the handlebar is further forward and for that reason people consider that the stem is longer than the indicated, but at the extremes, where the hands are actually placed, it is less wide and from the center of the handlebar to the center of the bolt it measures 100mm (the measurement indicated in this case). You can ask Canyon but what I could see the measurement is correct. The fact that the handlebar is not a cylinder and the width is variable along the handlebar implies that the way to measure the stem is not as straight forward as a conventional handlebar.
great video. on canyon website when you want to purchase the H36 cockpit, you have to choose a length size but I have no idea what size should I get? I am on H17 and H13 set up and I dont know what is the current size of my cockpit so i could find a match! any hint?
I think it depends of your bike fit configuration, maybe better ask to a bike fitter. As an starting point, check the bike size charts in Canyon ‘s website, there you can see the stem size according to frame size. I think a combination of Canyon website information and bike fitter advice is the best.
@@StevenMolina thanks Steven :)
and also what is the reason you disconnected all the cables from the levers? basically you don't have to. were you just changing the cables?
Hi. Is it possible to install this cocpit without disconnecting the cables from the shifters ? Thanks .
Алексей Тимоня Hi! Maybe, it depends how long the cables are to be able to move the shifters easy and safely without pulling the cables. Personally I think could be a mess have shifters and cables hanging out there, holding the fork and trying to install the aerocockpit all at the same time.
Hello.I have been using H31 ergocockpit with H31 spacer kit.This year I change my handlebar to H11.In your video I think you used aero spacer kit for H11 and H36.
When I install the handlebar with H11 aero spacer kit between top cap and last spacer has space which did not happened with H31 handlebar.You think aero spacer for H11 and H36 will be ok?Thank you.
Hi! It’s hard to say because a never see personally a H31 handlebar to say if it has different measurements to H36 or H31. Are you installing it on an Ultimate? The H11-H36 spacer kit is indicated for Aeroad, whereas H31 for Ultimate and Endurance. My Aero spacer kit is indicated as H31, as you can see the bolt in transition plate is behind, pointing to the saddle, the H31-H36 you can see in pictures that the bolt is lateral. The only thing I can guess is transition plate or the integrated stem is lower so, the total height of the aerocockpit with all the spacers installed is lower than your previous setup with H31. I recommend you check first if the kit is the indicated with Canyon service, if everything is ok, measure the height of stem and the transition plate (spacers has standard height) to find the difference. If occurs that is lower, you have two options: add an spacers to fill the gap or cut the fork.
@@StevenMolina since I m not gonna use H31 due to changing sizes I will buy aerospacer kit for H11.The thing is in website it says H11 and H36 for Aeroad.Fork measurement is same so I think it will be fine.Thank you for your reply.
Did you cut the excess tube or put extra spacer?🚴🏽♂️🚴🏽♂️🚴🏽♂️
I cut it based on my bike fit. I don’t like how an extra spacer on the top of the stem looks.
Steven, very well done! Overall, did you find the cockpit upgrade worth it?
It’s worth for me. I like how it looks and like the more stiffness feeling it gives. The flat top of the aerocockpit is comfortable too. I don’t have comparable power data with similar testing conditions to talk properly about aerodynamic gains compared with previous setup but I think even with the specifications of Canyon the gains are marginals.
@@StevenMolina thanks! I figured as such. I have a Di2 setup too, and I like the cleaner lines, but installing it will skew with my bike fit. I prioritized getting a Hambini bottom bracket installed instead.
@@henrygascon9106 yeah, bike fit should be priority. That said, you can keep your stem length and handlebar width of your previous setup choosing the the aerocockpit with the same measures and dont affect your bike fit, the stem angle is the same of previous setup (+°6 angle). Some people thinks the angle is pointing down but is the same, looks like a negative angle due the flat top of the handlebar :).
@@StevenMolina thanks so much! I was a bit concerned about the angle but if there's no change, that's excellent. I'm connecting with my fitter to make sure I have the right size. I'll likely go with the H11.
@@henrygascon9106 what's the differences between h11 and h36?
Hi, thanks for the video. I’m upgrading my Endurance with the H31. One question about your upgrade: did you replace the wedge expander with the one shipped in the upgrade kit? And can you tell what the three little O-rings are meant for? Unfortunately Canyon doesn’t provide proper documentation. :-(
Christoph Lieck Hi! Yeah, the documentation is not much useful. I replaced the wedge expander. I cut my fork tube so, I must change de position of the wedge expander so, I used the new one. The 3 little o-ring provided are used to seal and create a “soft compression” for the top cap of the stem so, in order to avoid sweat into the stem and protecting the top cap of be broken I sort the items like: bolt/top cap/ o-ring/plastic tube /o-ring/o-ring. I followed the order of the item guided by the previous configuration of my V13 stem. I hope my explanation helps you!
Steven Molina Thank you so much for your reply. Very helpful indeed! Best Christoph
@@StevenMolina HI there, how/why did you have to cut the fork tube? Is the Endurace too long for Aero Cockpit?
@@SuperSmithy1985 Hi! I can’t talk about the Endurace but can talk about this Ultimate. This aerocockpit, in the area where the bolts are located is slightly lower than the V13 (about 3-5mm), the spacers and transitions plate are the same height so, when yo put all the spacers and the transition plate, you will see that the fork tube stands out a little bit. If you keep the things on this way the top cap don’t sits correctly over the stem and you will not be able to compress the bearings and adjust the things properly. In my case, now that I had to cut the fork tube, I put off 1 spacer (10mm) based on my bike fit setup and kept the others just in case. Thats the reason my top cap is flat over the stem, some people keeps all the spacers and put the spacers over the stem but personally I don’t like it. Finally, I cut it with a normal saw with fine teeth. Parktools sells specific saw for cutting carbon fibre but I did no have any problem or damage cutting with a normal one. You can find plenty of tutorials how to cut a fork securely. Always measure twice before cut.
@@StevenMolina That's great and makes perfect sense. Thank you so much.
Nice vid, what's the size of this bike?
Gerard Kortekaas Hi, thanks! It’s XS size.
@@StevenMolina question about size: I'm 172 sm should i order XS or S? also is it possible to order from Canyon the already upgraded handlebar to aerocockpit?
@@timourchayipov9248 I'm bit taller and inbetween sizes so for you i'd definitely go XS
Alter Schwede!
Is it possible to install an additional battery- garmin charge?
I don't have an additional garmin battery so not sure but comparing the Garmin mount and the Canyon mount the bottom looks the same in both mounts. The Canyon mount allows unscrew the plate that holds the garmin unit so probably you can exchange it for the required setup for mounting this kind of battery or any other accesories related to this kind of mount.
Did your computer mount come with it or was it purchased seperately?
Chester Ho Hi! The cyclecomputer mount is sold separately. This is the garmin version, I think (but not sure) that exists the wahoo-compatible version, so be sure to purchase the correct one.
Great. What wheels you riding on this?
Mavic Ksyrium Pro Exhalith SL
hi, i would like to change the headset of my canyon ultimate cf slx. could i know which bearings are needed? thanks
For bearings type and measures better contact Canyon. Now, if you mean for changing the stem/handlebar and spacers for the Aerocokpit you don’t to changes bearings.
@@StevenMolina ok thanks
Hi! how do you change the stem lenght?? like its fixed at 13cm??
It’s a stem+handlebar combo, you can’t change the stem length because both parts are fixed. You must select the right stem length for you when you are buying it in the Canyon website.
Hi, question is a little off topic. Can 28mm tires fit this bike model?
Hi! I ask the same to Canyon via twitter and yes, they said its possible to fit 28mm tires in this model.
@@StevenMolina I get it. Thanks.
@@kadashov yes I run 28mm easily.
Nice video Steven. Would be good also to show how you did the bolts in terms of order etc :)
Stefan Thomson Yeah, maybe the part when I tighted the bolts is not very explanatory. The cap bolt depends of the adjust of the bearings in the headtube to avoid rocking in the fork, but around 2-3Nm did the job. Then, the bolts in the stem just require 5Nm indicated in the stem, is recommended start from 1Nm, and alternate the bolts, never put all the 5Nm in just one bolt at the time. When this bolds are in place with the specific torque you can tight the bolt in the spacers/transition plate, this is just for avoiding that the fork falls when you remove the aerocockpit, so, just require 1Nm. Thanks for your comment and sorry, I don’t see it till now.
What size it is ? What was the original length of the stem and with of the Handlebar
The original was 80mm stem and 400mm handlebar. The new aerocockpit is 10mm stem and 390mm handlebar.
@@StevenMolina *100mm I guess 😊
Hello!where do you get the spacer kit?thanks!
洪博 hello! It is sold in Canyon’s website.
@@StevenMolina did you order Spencer kit for ultimate model &endurace? Or h36 for aeroad?
Is it black-grey model?
Marcin Pawłowski yes, it is.
Final result is not how it looks, but what advantages are noted. So, was it worth spending $400 for making bike 35g lighter?
Ana Ta Hi, why how it looks could not be a valid or the only reason? In the end, some of the reasons why we choose a bike over others is how it looks, right? ;). Now, I feel this aerocockpit more comfortable and stiffer and stable than previous setup. If you refers to watts saved, I never make a previous or post test, that never was my intention, frankly, I don’t care, haha. If you want to see how much whats saves this combo I suggest you visit the Canyon website, I think is around 5-7W at 40kph but I don’t really now, it doesn’t matter for me. The only invest in upgrades that I can talk more confident in term of big gains has been my powermeters.
Steven Molina This is definitely true. But, not in expense of performance. This is how we chose cars. Right?
Ana Ta no necessarily, probably somebody choose a car just because look awesome, other because need to carry something in a pick up, other need a little, fuel efficient car for high traffic in cities. ;) If you want make your bike even ligther or faster its ok, its your choice, not the definitive choice for others. Putting 250ml of less water in your bottle will make your bike around 250g lighter for free, always is your choice. ;)