This entire series has been extremely refreshing. & its not because you are touching on any groundbreaking stuff or discovering anything that we didn’t already know , but because you are approaching a subject thats been given such negative publicity in the mainstream as of late with such open arms and an open mind . And you are gladly accepting this might be something you aren’t fully educated on, therefore you chose to go and listen instead of assuming you already knew what men felt and how we thought. A big pat on the back, and more of this kind of investigative journalism (for lack of a better phrase) please Guardian. x
Community! There's so much power in community, and not just from a masculinity point of view. I'm thinking about something else I'm involved in, and the "professional" help is definitely needed, but friendship and support, or community, complements it really well.
The weed comment is certainly metaphorical about the lack of purpose in a man's life. And as the gentleman in the support group says at about 2:55, "we're here for you." Modern masculinity is partly about finding the right place for plants in wrong places, and not considering them undesirable.
@@mattsven I wasn't really thinking anything, I was just stating facts. It is completely understandable that they wouldn't want women to be on the weekends that they do and I wouldn't want to disrupt the work that they were doing just to make a video. I'm very glad that Pat and Ben agreed to speak to me at the allotment and I feel like I got a lot from that discussion. - IA
There is nothing Objective about the Guardian's journalism. It is a left wing woke values male club being interviewed about "modern" masculinity by a woke lefty female. Just because the Guardian took time from trumpeting the issues of Feminism to follow a group of feeling circle guys doesn't mean the Guardian has moved out of the realm of supporting the world they seek to create. These men are of the mindset of the guardian's worldview so that is why they are getting a coverage nod. Personally I would never waste my time spending time with any of them. I oppose their social change worldview and find most of those men to be extremely repellent life forms not worthy of the scruff on their face.
@@maxpeck7382 I cant help but agree, I mean take a look at the many comments in both Guardian videos and the website, and you will see the constant criticism from males stating the real issue to be how feminism has been on the constant attack for decades. Yet this is never mentioned let alone argued. The Guardian only has to look BTL to find the answer claims to be seeking, yet seems totally blind to the frustrations of its comment section choosing instead to go to some handpicked 'right on' group that will give the right nods. I mean we cant have people thinking the main reason many men feel so ostracized is down to the break up of the family unit, and the demonization of the white man.
As a man, I would quite like to see how women perceive masculinity. Both how they see it in men and how they see it in women. A recurring thought of mine in the series has been, "I don't think this is about masculinity, it's more about how to live a balanced life." I'm interested in if women perceive these discussions as applicable to themselves, and if they think it revolves around masculinity or just living a balanced life. Additionally, I think it'd be interesting to hear from single mothers about how they try to give their children a father-figure growing up. Anywise, I've really enjoyed the series, either way I'll continue watching. All the good things.
I think the Gillette ad that kick-started this documentary series gives us some answers. The ad seemed to imply masculinity itself is toxic and undesirable, and caricaturized men. I think this series was meant to explore what it is to be a man, if not some ill-behaving caricature. I think this episode was the first to provide some nuanced insight.
"I don't think this is about masculinity, it's more about how to live a balanced life." I'd say many of the underlying issues are universal human issues, but they will take different forms in masculinity and femininity. For example; Women and men aren't inherently more or less agressive than the other, but masculine and feminine forms of agression are notably different. And as a result of that, I'd argue some of these issues are (or at least can be) a bigger challenge for men, because the forms these issues take for us can often clash with the structure of society.
This presenter is so closed-minded it's hard to believe she is a real person. If you were to gender-reverse her condescension, she would have been cancelled pronto
Her gardening with them resulted in some of the most natural dialog in this whole series. You have to get on people's level and do what they do to get them to really trust you. That's a crucial aspect of being a good journalist/documentarian
This is a great series. The amount of respect shown to the issue and the people is fantastic. And it shows as they, in turn, show respect to Iman and the team.
Iman you are conducting journalism as it was meant to be conducted. This is such a great series, and so in contrast to what our society has come to expect of the media. Thanks so much for doing it, and special thanks to Pat and especially Ben for be willing to open up and bit and share about life. Looking forward to the next episode.
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I love how she noticed that younger guy during the interview has more depth than he's willing/able to show. He's trying to be very deliberate and careful with his words, her acknowledging that as depth rather than shyness or reluctance really made his eyes glow up. he seems to be very high in openness, considering many things before he speaks, maybe too many and thats why he desires stability. just my observation.
Hey Iman and Team thanks for another interesting installment to this series. I really like the work you all are doing in opening up the conversation. For future episode ideas I think it would be interesting to meet with other groups around the UK such as Dope Black Dad's to talk about what different cultures bring to the conversation and how we might be able to draw from all cultures in recreating our ideas of manhood for this time.
@@garybarnes4084 I am autistic - diagnosed but semi-difficult to tell - and I was in university around the time that 'not making eye contact is a micro aggression' idea was spreading around the student unions. If regular social interactions are confusing, imagine then being told that such confusion itself was a racist micro aggression.
I have found here in America and it is probably the same abroad, that men who work in traditionally "masculine" fields and are surrounded by other guys everyday at work, are usually the best at opening up about their lives and showing vulnerability, because there is a lot of trust built over time with these guys. Also, there is no politically correct speech, because it's not mixed company. So you really know where people stand on all the issues. Perhaps you could talk to guys on a police squad that works narcotics cases, or an amateur rugby football club, or a mechanics shoppe... Those guys are classically masculine, but you would be surprised about how well they know one another and have navigated the modern world through relationships with other men, via shared experience and shared hobbies.
@@lindai6988 Mostly it is making fun of various movements that receive a lot of attention on the news, but are just so freaking stupid. Yet no one has the cajones to call those folks out. Or just calling out the double speak. Where society wants "A", but won't ever do "B" to try achieve "A", because it works against said agenda. I mean sure, dudes talk about how hot AOC probably was in college, yet call her an idiot at the same time, playing off of gender stereotypes that men will appreciate beauty, but not strength of mind or character. So yeah, you could call that "locker room talk", but much more frequently, it would be like this... HEADLINE: Left pushes for tougher gun laws. Non-PC Statement: Well, maybe if the local prosecutors would give these guys tougher sentences when they're caught with a gun while committing another crime and not plead it down to 12 months, which is one day less than it takes to make someone a prohibited possessor, maybe that would change the violence factor of criminals with guns. State Prison versus County jail. Oh! You can't say that! You want to lock up these poor non-violent offenders!
Great episode. Some great insight on intergenerational perspectives. I found the comments on class interesting. That an upper class person couldn't be a guide to working class. While I don't think it's exclusively true, I'd note that most of this series is focussed on working class masculinity. I'm wondering what perspectives middle & upper middle class young men would have to say on how they view masculinity and their place in the world.
Glad you liked it. I think the leaning towards working class voices is down to the fact that I am trying to open the discussion up to those who are often not given a platform to talk on these issues, and that often means working class people. I do however speak to Jon Snow from Channel 4 News in episode 3, who speaks about his experience at a private boarding school and that was a fascinating perspective to have. Of course there are unlimited experiences to cover and we can only do a finite amount but I'm trying to get as much variety as possible. - IA
@@theGuardian Jon Snow's input was terrific and horrifying, but I guess I'd consider that a very upper class experience. I'm probably being a bit greedy in the ask, but I'm 33, with a new baby, a mortgage, a wife, coming from a two working parents background... I think I'm living the old school vision of what a man was supposed to do. I don't think we ever challenge that group about their motivations, their regrets or their fears. If the crisis of masculinity is about no longer choosing or being able to follow the old trodden path of masculine expectations about being a family man or provider, I feel like it's worth exploring whether that path is in crisis itself too. Does a 35 year old man providing for his family feel that that's what's giving him purpose? Does he feel the responsibility as a burden or does it give him pride. Does he recognise the sense of crisis around masculinity or does it pass him by. I definitely feel like we make a lot of presumptions about where his head is at - or often, I think men who are feeling a crisis of masculinity harbour an ill will towards guys living the old cliche life thinking two things; that he doesn't know how lucky he is and that he's a robot, who hasn't even thought about who he is.
@@falloncj Hi, I just want to say that this is something which I have spoken about at length with male colleagues and friends. I wish I had the chance to explore the family man/provider "experience" (sorry, I can't think of a better way of phrasing that) and I have given a lot of thought to the points which you raise. Hopefully I will have the opportunity to come back and do this at some point. Hope you have enjoyed the series so far. - IA
@@theGuardian I think the family man/provider is a fair term for it - no apologies needed. I'm loving the series. Honestly loving it and not in that shaded "now this is actual journalism" that some lads a putting in just because it sits well with what they wanted to see. I'm volunteering with my local youth club and this series, especially the working class angle is opening my mind up in a big way. I can see so many differences between my expectations growing up and those of the kids I'm working with and I guess I'm hoping I can bridge the gap between healthy and unhealthy aspirations. I'm also trying to work out where that provider drive comes from, like... I think I got it from my dad/family, my mates don't feel it, or at least in the same way despite similar backgrounds... I'm a modern guy, working in a good job in a city, but I'm not some conservative traditionalist. So for me, my crisis of masculinity is about understanding whether being a provider is enough for me to tick that box. Like an itch of self justification. It's definitely part of what's driven me to volunteering with a youth club but I can't tell if it's a common experience. Most dialogue in this space is about disaffected youth, cleaning their room and finding purpose and not relying on old school definitions of masculinity to give identity, but for some of married to a housewife with kids we love, it certainly doesn't mean we found an answer and there's no more questions. Keep up the good work, you led me to look at more guardian vids and between yourself and the fella covering "anywhere but Westminster" I'm feeling far more aware of my surroundings and how much is going on inside someone else's head.
This conversation is EXACTLY why I gave my son's father more than one chance to trip and fall while parenting...that no matter what, (barring health and safety issues of course), having a genuine, stable relationship with his father is in my son's best interest..and his best chance at learning how to be a man. Us mamas can't teach them that, even though I know loads of single moms who wish they could. I really praise these sorts of organizations -- there is always a need for adult men to mentor and lead younger ones.
Finding this series very interesting. I used to be really into "men's rights" and "men's issues" and thought that the world was against men. Nowadays, I have calmed down a bit and am unsure that any sex/gender (define it how you please) has it easier or harder. I think people have it hard, as life can (often) be hard. But this is an interesting series to watch from my current perspective. Keep it up.
What I hate about this is, as always the guy who ended up in prison is treated like a hero. There are millions of men completely disenfranchised who quietly get on with their life, work, pay taxes ect, who also feel misrepresented and forgotten, in many cases down to causes that the Guardian champions.
I can't believe he mentioned bushcraft. Being in the US, it's been impossible to find people actually interested in that, who go out and practice it. It's so true, everybody is so isolated, but they have to *want* to *not* be isolated to be able to find others they're interested in.
There are a lot of out doors men and woman in the states , try getting out a bit more . I'm old and fat now but I can show you around big Sur if you come out to visit .
I've been really happy with this series. You've approached men and listened. The women's movement is well on it's way, and now men need to a movement to dismantle our own stereotypes to lead us into a healthier future, for everyone. Keep up the great work!! ♥️
Projects such as Band of Brothers are the way forward, in my opinion. As the young men said, when you come from a troubled background you tend to kick against authority figures, even when they have your best interests at heart. But these older guys are people whose own stories resonate with the younger men, and whom they can relate to, from their own social class. That’s why it works. Also, the fact that the older men are volunteers shows the young men that people think they are worth helping and investing time in, which creates a very different dynamic than when the mentor is being paid to do what they do. Really good stuff!
I've been following this series from the first episode and I really appreciate you all making it. It's rare for me to find a journalist or news outlet that's seeking out male opinions and genuinely listening to what men are saying. Thank you.
This whole series is nothing would I would expect or see from the Guardian. All I can say is I am impressed by Imans impartial reporting, no baggage, no bias. In fact, just straight honest reporting. This is not praise of the Guardian at all but rather Iman. Kudos to you Iman and my respect. Give a man purpose, responsibility, respect and most importantly, tempered with respect and compassion for others and you have a force that will benefit all of society. A force that will sacrifice himself for the benefit of others without hesitation or question. Deny him that and you will have chaos and destruction. Is this really so hard to understand?
Excellent broadcast and Iman is an amazing journalist - Thank-you @the Guardian WE definitely need more workshops and series like these to be shown on both regular TV and online
I really want this series to make money to show the guardian and other news organisations that good journalism is the key to success not click bait and moral panic
@K Korona I disagree that moral panic can be good, especially if you look at the circumstances of moral panic the the past. However, even if it was, the over use of moral panic and click bait has tainted modern media trying to compete with new media
Some comments could seem as like "YEA FINALLY YOU RE LOOKING ON OUR SIDE AND NOW YOU FINALLY UNTERSTAND!!" but honestly I feel like they are the simple statement of "This is very refreshing and touching." and nothing more, love this since the first episode, keep it up
@@ElliottBMoore Hey man, George is right, you really hit the nail on the head. Learning to embrace the unwanted feelings we've been pushing away all our life is hard, but the only way to heal is to go through them and let them in. It's so inspiring that you're trying to do that. I'm in the same boat, and I know personally that it can be so scary to face sometimes. All my love and support go to you, and I wish you the very best through this journey. You're not alone in this, brother.
Finally, on the fifth episode, we have some answers into what modern masculinity is that isn't some socially-acceptable, cliched, simple motherhood statement! At 2:20, the gentleman speaks about "getting into [his] body, feeling what's inside instead of trying to run away from it." I think awareness and control over one's emotions is probably what separates today's masculinity from all the forms of masculinity since the Industrial Revolution. Finally, we see men being vulnerable and empathetic!
Legit one of the best series I've watched. It's important we see and hear more positive stories like these ones in 2019 and beyond because it's been so so negative for the last while in the media whenever masculinity is mentioned (especially from the Guardian). Maybe the tide is turning! Keep up the good work.
It's not even the content that made this series great, it was the execution. You guys got a lot of different voices, in generation, background, and ideology, and you listened to them. You showed them respect, and they showed you respect. Part of what's pushed me away from the Guardian for the last few years is the vitriol targeting people who don't possess the approved opinions. This had none of that, and was a breath of fresh air. Thank you.
"I think that's the key to all of this, is feeling everything that's going on the inside instead of trying to run away from it. Like anxiety, anger, fear, sadness, it's getting me a long way. I think that's kind of where us men go wrong is we're trying to run away from our shit that's inside" I can't find any better way to rationalise the need for free expression. Very lovely videos, I am devouring every single one of them as soon as they pop up on my feed
Again. Thank you for covering the topic of modern masculinity! Being connected to your emotions as a man and being able to express them to other men without fear of negative judgment is something I think should be highlighted and explored further. Cheers
Interesting episode! Curious, will your series explore the masculinity of men who are comfortable in society, with office jobs and not doing traditionally masculine activities.
I think the major thing that's missing here is how this series approaches "showing emotion". Yes, it is very healthy for men to be "in touch" with their emotions but the entire concept is being put forth like that means being more like women. "See, when men start behaving more like women, start breaking the stereotypes against showing emotion, their lives get better". It hasn't been stated that explicitly but it's right there if you are looking for it. Iman and the crew have done an admirable job in trying to pull out cultural bias' where they can but this keeps sticking around. There needs to be a discussion about why men naturally hide from emotion (that doesn't demonize it), what *not* hiding looks like for men in juxtaposition from women (because they explore their emotions very differently and for different reasons), and a highlighting of the fact that men and women do not mean the same thing when they talk about their emotions. As much as there is a need to break the cultural norm of running from emotion, there needs to be breaking of emotion being a feminine trait. Men have as much need to be like women as women have of being a man. Men don't need to get in touch with their feminine side to be whole, they need to go deeper into their masculinity, for in it, there is wholeness. Everything they are meant to be is found in there.
The expectation, tasks, roles, and (to an extent) strengths of men require emotional sensitivity less (than those of girls and women). This can be exaggerated in families in peril. It might be that some of these young men didn’t have great relationships with their fathers. I really hope they all come through.
As a lot of others have said, I think it would be interesting to talk with office workers, particularly around mental health. I think a loss of identity and resulting depression is huge in this area.
This entire series has been a pleasure and a joy to watch, smile my way through every episode seeing fellow young men opening up and pro-actively improving their lot in life. Bravo
I am enjoying this series immensely. I would like to see a more balanced view of masculinity from different classes. You have rightly focused on the working class man as that is the most common stereotype people would associate with masculinity but I would be interested in the views of more privileged classes also to get an over-all view of the concept.
@K Korona to be honest I have not followed their coverage on brexit. But your point on right wingers being censored does tie in nicely with this series to a degree. Would be a good topic to cover as well.
I think this series, if done in the States, would not be received so positively. The race dynamics in the US are far too loaded and politicized, even if Iman would be doing the same thing. Which I think is really heartbreaking because our boys and young men of all races, regardless on the level of challenges they face, really do need proper guidance, not the shit served up by toxic characters.
Thank you for this series. It's a conversation that is so important in our society. I'm really grateful that you've not shied away from it, even though it's such a controversial topic. Some of the best journalism I've seen in my life. My kind of journalism is all about starting conversations, not prescribing answers and opinions. Thank you, please keep them coming!
Insightful! I think it's not that because men have no one to talk to, it's just the culture that does not yet have the language to decipher the expression of men's emotions, or in other words, our culture is not yet ready for men to express their feelings. And thus even if men do find the courage to open up, they'd be continually be colliding into a sort of brick wall. But here's to hoping that wall crumbles eventually one day.
Not sure I agree with you Hambali. I think emotions are emotions, but we do express them differently. I think because we are often not taught to connect with them we struggle to identify them and communicate them. I liked what the guy in the video said about owning your story. If we are waiting for society to do something we will always be left without. These guys demonstrated that if we each take ownership where we are, we can create the spaces needed to learn and grow together.
It seems that the only thing strange here is trying to force a pattern that works for woman as the only viable option. The ones having a problem it seems are women, then try to project it onto men
vertigoz but then when women bottle things up and don't communicate verbally men complain about not being mind-readers and how difficult women are. See it goes both ways.
Hambali Junaidie Hamdan this is slightly off topic but if men really show their emotions and crying their eyes out women don’t like it. I don’t mind a man crying briefly and then regain composure and control. So be careful what you wish for as they say
@@justonetime6179 women expects men to understand but don't do extra mile because they see themselves entitled to, men don't care. It's like someone is creating a problem that didn't existed before
We need more examples of this content; not just in western countries but throughout the world. Men need support and a safe space but also need to not be ashamed of embracing their masculinity.
I try to open discusion on modern masculinity but in seems almost as a taboo in my country. I am glad there are men who can openly speak about this.Thanks for this series!
@K Korona and why is it his fault he lives, probably even born, in South Africa? There might be shit going on over there, but that doesn't mean everyone supports that.
The one thing that is extremely important about this series is that it shows that men wants to be heard, are willing to be heard, and are willing to discuss the idea of masculinity, but more often than not they are not given the platform to do so without facing severe backlash, we always see news shows bringing in feminists to talk about how horrible the world is for women, but the only times we bring in men to talk about men and masculinity its always in a framework of a feminist man, or setting him up against a feminist to try and make her look better.
I really hope this goes mainstream. The modern narrative of men just constantly being barraged as if they're inherently broken is far too pervasive. I honestly loathed the guardian before, but this is just very surprising work.
Really loved this episode(This and the 2nd one were beautiful). I really feel like I can relate to Ben's thoughts. Ive always tried and shut off my emotions, because I was scared and didnt know what to do, or who to turn to.
It’s fine to have an emotion and to show an emotion. There are times for that, and times for the stiff upper lip. Emotional control is how to stand up for yourself without escalating to a fight. That’s an important part of masculinity!
@iman I think this series is great.. mentoring is important. But I think it would be be great if you interviewed fathers and sons (specifically estranged ones..) . I find myself wondering what is their thought process (fathers that left families) on their sons.. and in exchange the way to their sons feel about it..
Great episode! And it was really good that the idea of generational segregation was lifted in this episode. Cuz thats one HUGE aspect of the masculinity crisis. Because young men often haven't got an older male role model nowadays. Just 50-100 years ago we still had that. Living close to relatives of older generations or in small communities. So thats something we've lost pretty recently in the West. And also that too many boys are growing up without their father, which is a pretty new thing. I would add that all-male-spaces, are also looked upon as an old and sexist thing. Like a boys-club, or boy scouts... So if everything has to be inclusive, these spaces will be lost. So the idea that men can't share feelings, cry or talk about things, doesn't hold true historically. Anyways, good episode!
Ligeia D.Aurevilly I don’t think gender segregated clubs/places should be the norm because that’s not a reflection of society and especially children should have spaces to get used to other genders but there’s nothing wrong with a few places being gender segregated
Would be nice is up did one in the US. Would like to hear everyone their perspective and if they think differently. Loving the series anyways. Looking forward to the next video
Excellent again. Thank you. I’m wondering if you have any plans to talk to men in the military? That’s another stereotypically masculine environment that has had to change a lot in a generation as it has become more diverse. Another interesting group to chat with would be gay men. Lastly, I think it would be good to talk with women about modern masculinity and what women really expect aside from the activists and utopians. That’s a huge, diverse demographic, but perhaps there are some women’s groups that are actively working in this field. Perhaps single mothers of boys? Just a notion. Enjoying your series from the USA.
Good intention but I feel you missed a chance to go deeper to the great work a Band of Brothers does. Masculinity work is about respect and self responsibility and growing up inside.
Thank you. This conversation is so important. If you can, I think it would be interesting to talk to people inside the incel movement and Jordan Peterson’s following too - both are an expression of modern masculinity, for better or worse, and I think they both need to be understood, acknowledged, and addressed. Love this series! Thank you!
Tbf not to have a go at the presenter who is great. But it's not just men who are uncomfortable with sharing emotions. But everyone else (women) don't like it either when men share emotions. Edit:I go to an allotment project:I just dig too.
@Ligeia D.Aurevilly I know what you mean and it's a hard thing to explain. I've never asked a man to open up emotionally to me; I've never had to because they would open up very easily as I was a good listener. Unfortunately I felt like an emotional waste disposal unit/unpaid counsellor, which was draining. So I'm not really into the "getting men to share their feelings" having been on the receiving end of it. I think what has happened is that some men keep so much inside them that when they get a safe place to unload, then it all comes tumbling out and then it becomes overwhelming for the recipient if it's unexpected. It also feels like this is somewhat alien to who they really are, which is why it feels weird and uncomfortable to others around them. When men open up in a way consistent with their masculine energy and identity it feels very different to when they do so in a "feminine" way and trying to get them to do so otherwise is just counterproductive.
This episode was heart warming, I think the guys were right about lacking the community in which you can talk to people on an emotional level is destructive. I love this series keep it up.
How do you come up with the questions to ask these guys? It all seems off the cuff. Any chance you could go to other countries like Canada, Sweden etc and see whats going on with masculinity over there?
What would be interesting is a or some women's view on modern masculinity, because it also affects them Great job on the series always makes my day a bit better to watch these videos
I'm cautious about that idea. I think women generally have many more outlets helping them voice their opinions and having those opinions taken seriously (even when the opinions are poorly thought out rubbish). With that in mind, I think it could be an interesting episode. It's just one that would need to be handled more carefully because it could very easily break the trust this series has been developing with me, and I assume other men.
Good work :) Maybe something with the women perspective for the next time ? And also, sometimes it's not easy to understand as English is not my first language. Maybe subtitles ? YTs auto generated subtitles are really not good... Anyway, I really appreciate the work you do to make masculinity something clearer and brighter. Do something with the ladies i'm sure it would be interesting. ;)
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An important subset of men who require attention, yet not representative or reflective of men at large.
This entire series has been extremely refreshing.
& its not because you are touching on any groundbreaking stuff or discovering anything that we didn’t already know , but because you are approaching a subject thats been given such negative publicity in the mainstream as of late with such open arms and an open mind . And you are gladly accepting this might be something you aren’t fully educated on, therefore you chose to go and listen instead of assuming you already knew what men felt and how we thought.
A big pat on the back, and more of this kind of investigative journalism (for lack of a better phrase) please Guardian. x
Beautifully said; couldn't agree more.
Thank-you so much, I'm glad that there are people out there who are finding something positive in these episodes x
Have been following this series from the first episode. Never disappointed. Keep up the good work!
Community! There's so much power in community, and not just from a masculinity point of view. I'm thinking about something else I'm involved in, and the "professional" help is definitely needed, but friendship and support, or community, complements it really well.
@Ligeia D.Aurevilly exactly. That really hit me too! I loved this episode
'It's your story, it's not everybody else's story'.
' A weed is just a plant in the wrong place'.
The weed comment is certainly metaphorical about the lack of purpose in a man's life. And as the gentleman in the support group says at about 2:55, "we're here for you." Modern masculinity is partly about finding the right place for plants in wrong places, and not considering them undesirable.
This has been one of the best UA-cam series ever.
Such honest and objective journalism. It's really appreciated.
Truthful Chap Well, it’s not really about what she thinks, is it? She’s trying to create a platform. I’m curios what you think she thought, though.
@@mattsven I wasn't really thinking anything, I was just stating facts. It is completely understandable that they wouldn't want women to be on the weekends that they do and I wouldn't want to disrupt the work that they were doing just to make a video. I'm very glad that Pat and Ben agreed to speak to me at the allotment and I feel like I got a lot from that discussion. - IA
The Guardian That’s what I took away as well. I didn’t read anything into your statements. Thanks for your work on this series!
There is nothing Objective about the Guardian's journalism. It is a left wing woke values male club being interviewed about "modern" masculinity by a woke lefty female. Just because the Guardian took time from trumpeting the issues of Feminism to follow a group of feeling circle guys doesn't mean the Guardian has moved out of the realm of supporting the world they seek to create. These men are of the mindset of the guardian's worldview so that is why they are getting a coverage nod. Personally I would never waste my time spending time with any of them. I oppose their social change worldview and find most of those men to be extremely repellent life forms not worthy of the scruff on their face.
@@maxpeck7382 I cant help but agree, I mean take a look at the many comments in both Guardian videos and the website, and you will see the constant criticism from males stating the real issue to be how feminism has been on the constant attack for decades.
Yet this is never mentioned let alone argued. The Guardian only has to look BTL to find the answer claims to be seeking, yet seems totally blind to the frustrations of its comment section choosing instead to go to some handpicked 'right on' group that will give the right nods. I mean we cant have people thinking the main reason many men feel so ostracized is down to the break up of the family unit, and the demonization of the white man.
As a man, I would quite like to see how women perceive masculinity. Both how they see it in men and how they see it in women. A recurring thought of mine in the series has been, "I don't think this is about masculinity, it's more about how to live a balanced life." I'm interested in if women perceive these discussions as applicable to themselves, and if they think it revolves around masculinity or just living a balanced life. Additionally, I think it'd be interesting to hear from single mothers about how they try to give their children a father-figure growing up.
Anywise, I've really enjoyed the series, either way I'll continue watching. All the good things.
I think the Gillette ad that kick-started this documentary series gives us some answers. The ad seemed to imply masculinity itself is toxic and undesirable, and caricaturized men. I think this series was meant to explore what it is to be a man, if not some ill-behaving caricature. I think this episode was the first to provide some nuanced insight.
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"I don't think this is about masculinity, it's more about how to live a balanced life."
I'd say many of the underlying issues are universal human issues, but they will take different forms in masculinity and femininity.
For example; Women and men aren't inherently more or less agressive than the other, but masculine and feminine forms of agression are notably different.
And as a result of that, I'd argue some of these issues are (or at least can be) a bigger challenge for men,
because the forms these issues take for us can often clash with the structure of society.
This presenter is so closed-minded it's hard to believe she is a real person. If you were to gender-reverse her condescension, she would have been cancelled pronto
I think women play a big role in masculinity. Just look at most of their dating choices.
Her gardening with them resulted in some of the most natural dialog in this whole series. You have to get on people's level and do what they do to get them to really trust you. That's a crucial aspect of being a good journalist/documentarian
Yeah but her doing it with the long nails and pristine white shoes is funny as hell.
This is a great series. The amount of respect shown to the issue and the people is fantastic. And it shows as they, in turn, show respect to Iman and the team.
Iman you are conducting journalism as it was meant to be conducted. This is such a great series, and so in contrast to what our society has come to expect of the media. Thanks so much for doing it, and special thanks to Pat and especially Ben for be willing to open up and bit and share about life. Looking forward to the next episode.
I am really glas that you enjoyed this episode and I hope you can find more to connect with in the rest of the series x
@@imanamrani5959 Ahh glad to see it's back! I'll take a look. Enjoy your holidays. :)
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I love how she noticed that younger guy during the interview has more depth than he's willing/able to show. He's trying to be very deliberate and careful with his words, her acknowledging that as depth rather than shyness or reluctance really made his eyes glow up.
he seems to be very high in openness, considering many things before he speaks, maybe too many and thats why he desires stability. just my observation.
Band of Brothers is awesome best episode so far
Hey Iman and Team thanks for another interesting installment to this series. I really like the work you all are doing in opening up the conversation. For future episode ideas I think it would be interesting to meet with other groups around the UK such as Dope Black Dad's to talk about what different cultures bring to the conversation and how we might be able to draw from all cultures in recreating our ideas of manhood for this time.
And disabled men. I think some (for example those with autism) are not given the space they should.
@@garybarnes4084 Hear hear. Men with mental health challenges (mental illness) too often find themselves in prison instead of in care.
@@garybarnes4084 I am autistic - diagnosed but semi-difficult to tell - and I was in university around the time that 'not making eye contact is a micro aggression' idea was spreading around the student unions.
If regular social interactions are confusing, imagine then being told that such confusion itself was a racist micro aggression.
An incredible end to this series, and both subjects were very interesting and insightful.
Iman Amrani is a very gifted interviewer.
I have found here in America and it is probably the same abroad, that men who work in traditionally "masculine" fields and are surrounded by other guys everyday at work, are usually the best at opening up about their lives and showing vulnerability, because there is a lot of trust built over time with these guys. Also, there is no politically correct speech, because it's not mixed company. So you really know where people stand on all the issues.
Perhaps you could talk to guys on a police squad that works narcotics cases, or an amateur rugby football club, or a mechanics shoppe... Those guys are classically masculine, but you would be surprised about how well they know one another and have navigated the modern world through relationships with other men, via shared experience and shared hobbies.
I feel like your version of non political correct speech is just code for locker room talk
@@lindai6988 the feminist version locker room talk is men talking about women in overly sexual ways when really...that rarely happens if not at all
@@lindai6988 Mostly it is making fun of various movements that receive a lot of attention on the news, but are just so freaking stupid. Yet no one has the cajones to call those folks out. Or just calling out the double speak. Where society wants "A", but won't ever do "B" to try achieve "A", because it works against said agenda. I mean sure, dudes talk about how hot AOC probably was in college, yet call her an idiot at the same time, playing off of gender stereotypes that men will appreciate beauty, but not strength of mind or character. So yeah, you could call that "locker room talk", but much more frequently, it would be like this...
HEADLINE: Left pushes for tougher gun laws.
Non-PC Statement: Well, maybe if the local prosecutors would give these guys tougher sentences when they're caught with a gun while committing another crime and not plead it down to 12 months, which is one day less than it takes to make someone a prohibited possessor, maybe that would change the violence factor of criminals with guns. State Prison versus County jail.
Oh! You can't say that! You want to lock up these poor non-violent offenders!
@@lindai6988 stop womansplanning you have no idea what your talking about
Great episode. Some great insight on intergenerational perspectives. I found the comments on class interesting. That an upper class person couldn't be a guide to working class. While I don't think it's exclusively true, I'd note that most of this series is focussed on working class masculinity. I'm wondering what perspectives middle & upper middle class young men would have to say on how they view masculinity and their place in the world.
Glad you liked it. I think the leaning towards working class voices is down to the fact that I am trying to open the discussion up to those who are often not given a platform to talk on these issues, and that often means working class people. I do however speak to Jon Snow from Channel 4 News in episode 3, who speaks about his experience at a private boarding school and that was a fascinating perspective to have. Of course there are unlimited experiences to cover and we can only do a finite amount but I'm trying to get as much variety as possible. - IA
@@theGuardian Jon Snow's input was terrific and horrifying, but I guess I'd consider that a very upper class experience. I'm probably being a bit greedy in the ask, but I'm 33, with a new baby, a mortgage, a wife, coming from a two working parents background... I think I'm living the old school vision of what a man was supposed to do.
I don't think we ever challenge that group about their motivations, their regrets or their fears. If the crisis of masculinity is about no longer choosing or being able to follow the old trodden path of masculine expectations about being a family man or provider, I feel like it's worth exploring whether that path is in crisis itself too. Does a 35 year old man providing for his family feel that that's what's giving him purpose? Does he feel the responsibility as a burden or does it give him pride. Does he recognise the sense of crisis around masculinity or does it pass him by. I definitely feel like we make a lot of presumptions about where his head is at - or often, I think men who are feeling a crisis of masculinity harbour an ill will towards guys living the old cliche life thinking two things; that he doesn't know how lucky he is and that he's a robot, who hasn't even thought about who he is.
@@falloncj Great post. Very insightful.
@@falloncj Hi, I just want to say that this is something which I have spoken about at length with male colleagues and friends. I wish I had the chance to explore the family man/provider "experience" (sorry, I can't think of a better way of phrasing that) and I have given a lot of thought to the points which you raise. Hopefully I will have the opportunity to come back and do this at some point. Hope you have enjoyed the series so far. - IA
@@theGuardian I think the family man/provider is a fair term for it - no apologies needed. I'm loving the series. Honestly loving it and not in that shaded "now this is actual journalism" that some lads a putting in just because it sits well with what they wanted to see.
I'm volunteering with my local youth club and this series, especially the working class angle is opening my mind up in a big way. I can see so many differences between my expectations growing up and those of the kids I'm working with and I guess I'm hoping I can bridge the gap between healthy and unhealthy aspirations. I'm also trying to work out where that provider drive comes from, like... I think I got it from my dad/family, my mates don't feel it, or at least in the same way despite similar backgrounds...
I'm a modern guy, working in a good job in a city, but I'm not some conservative traditionalist. So for me, my crisis of masculinity is about understanding whether being a provider is enough for me to tick that box. Like an itch of self justification. It's definitely part of what's driven me to volunteering with a youth club but I can't tell if it's a common experience.
Most dialogue in this space is about disaffected youth, cleaning their room and finding purpose and not relying on old school definitions of masculinity to give identity, but for some of married to a housewife with kids we love, it certainly doesn't mean we found an answer and there's no more questions.
Keep up the good work, you led me to look at more guardian vids and between yourself and the fella covering "anywhere but Westminster" I'm feeling far more aware of my surroundings and how much is going on inside someone else's head.
This conversation is EXACTLY why I gave my son's father more than one chance to trip and fall while parenting...that no matter what, (barring health and safety issues of course), having a genuine, stable relationship with his father is in my son's best interest..and his best chance at learning how to be a man. Us mamas can't teach them that, even though I know loads of single moms who wish they could. I really praise these sorts of organizations -- there is always a need for adult men to mentor and lead younger ones.
Finding this series very interesting. I used to be really into "men's rights" and "men's issues" and thought that the world was against men. Nowadays, I have calmed down a bit and am unsure that any sex/gender (define it how you please) has it easier or harder. I think people have it hard, as life can (often) be hard. But this is an interesting series to watch from my current perspective. Keep it up.
The Guardian covering men relatively positively? Miracles do happen.
Not a miracle, a forced hand. Men go through shit and some of the only people willing to listen to them are really horrible.
What I hate about this is, as always the guy who ended up in prison is treated like a hero. There are millions of men completely disenfranchised who quietly get on with their life, work, pay taxes ect, who also feel misrepresented and forgotten, in many cases down to causes that the Guardian champions.
The guardian does some great journalism ... but this comment is legit.
Men who did wrong and is trying to make it all right tell a good story
I can't believe he mentioned bushcraft. Being in the US, it's been impossible to find people actually interested in that, who go out and practice it. It's so true, everybody is so isolated, but they have to *want* to *not* be isolated to be able to find others they're interested in.
There are a lot of out doors men and woman in the states , try getting out a bit more . I'm old and fat now but I can show you around big Sur if you come out to visit .
This series makes me so so happy, I’m excited to see where it goes! We need more journalism like this
I've been really happy with this series. You've approached men and listened. The women's movement is well on it's way, and now men need to a movement to dismantle our own stereotypes to lead us into a healthier future, for everyone. Keep up the great work!! ♥️
Projects such as Band of Brothers are the way forward, in my opinion. As the young men said, when you come from a troubled background you tend to kick against authority figures, even when they have your best interests at heart. But these older guys are people whose own stories resonate with the younger men, and whom they can relate to, from their own social class. That’s why it works. Also, the fact that the older men are volunteers shows the young men that people think they are worth helping and investing time in, which creates a very different dynamic than when the mentor is being paid to do what they do. Really good stuff!
I've been following this series from the first episode and I really appreciate you all making it. It's rare for me to find a journalist or news outlet that's seeking out male opinions and genuinely listening to what men are saying. Thank you.
This whole series is nothing would I would expect or see from the Guardian. All I can say is I am impressed by Imans impartial reporting, no baggage, no bias. In fact, just straight honest reporting. This is not praise of the Guardian at all but rather Iman. Kudos to you Iman and my respect.
Give a man purpose, responsibility, respect and most importantly, tempered with respect and compassion for others and you have a force that will benefit all of society. A force that will sacrifice himself for the benefit of others without hesitation or question.
Deny him that and you will have chaos and destruction.
Is this really so hard to understand?
Well done on this series. Wish it could have more reception on youtube. Conversations like this are needed more than ever.
Pat is the uncle everyone wants.
Excellent broadcast and Iman is an amazing journalist - Thank-you @the Guardian WE definitely need more workshops and series like these to be shown on both regular TV and online
This is helping me a lot. I'm glad to see genuine, good-faith concern for people like me.
I really want this series to make money to show the guardian and other news organisations that good journalism is the key to success not click bait and moral panic
@K Korona I disagree that moral panic can be good, especially if you look at the circumstances of moral panic the the past. However, even if it was, the over use of moral panic and click bait has tainted modern media trying to compete with new media
Some comments could seem as like "YEA FINALLY YOU RE LOOKING ON OUR SIDE AND NOW YOU FINALLY UNTERSTAND!!" but honestly I feel like they are the simple statement of "This is very refreshing and touching." and nothing more,
love this since the first episode, keep it up
That guy with the man-bun said something somehow amazing in like 20 seconds
Thanks George ;) Elliott . Abob
@@ElliottBMoore Hey man, George is right, you really hit the nail on the head. Learning to embrace the unwanted feelings we've been pushing away all our life is hard, but the only way to heal is to go through them and let them in. It's so inspiring that you're trying to do that. I'm in the same boat, and I know personally that it can be so scary to face sometimes.
All my love and support go to you, and I wish you the very best through this journey. You're not alone in this, brother.
Growing up is amazing? ..I guess acting like an adult is a rarity these days.
He's referring to emotional intelligence, sometimes referred to as EQ (instead of IQ).
Finally, on the fifth episode, we have some answers into what modern masculinity is that isn't some socially-acceptable, cliched, simple motherhood statement! At 2:20, the gentleman speaks about "getting into [his] body, feeling what's inside instead of trying to run away from it." I think awareness and control over one's emotions is probably what separates today's masculinity from all the forms of masculinity since the Industrial Revolution. Finally, we see men being vulnerable and empathetic!
Love this. As a young man it really gives me perspective and guidance. Thank you.
Legit one of the best series I've watched. It's important we see and hear more positive stories like these ones in 2019 and beyond because it's been so so negative for the last while in the media whenever masculinity is mentioned (especially from the Guardian). Maybe the tide is turning! Keep up the good work.
Still surprised to see the Guardian doing actual journalism. Hope Amrani isn't fired for being "far-right" for being an actual journalist.
It's not even the content that made this series great, it was the execution. You guys got a lot of different voices, in generation, background, and ideology, and you listened to them. You showed them respect, and they showed you respect. Part of what's pushed me away from the Guardian for the last few years is the vitriol targeting people who don't possess the approved opinions. This had none of that, and was a breath of fresh air. Thank you.
"I think that's the key to all of this, is feeling everything that's going on the inside instead of trying to run away from it. Like anxiety, anger, fear, sadness, it's getting me a long way. I think that's kind of where us men go wrong is we're trying to run away from our shit that's inside"
I can't find any better way to rationalise the need for free expression.
Very lovely videos, I am devouring every single one of them as soon as they pop up on my feed
Again. Thank you for covering the topic of modern masculinity! Being connected to your emotions as a man and being able to express them to other men without fear of negative judgment is something I think should be highlighted and explored further. Cheers
@K Korona Being connected emotionally is not the same as emotional weakness. It's the opposite, actually. Cheers for the douchey comment though :)
Interesting episode! Curious, will your series explore the masculinity of men who are comfortable in society, with office jobs and not doing traditionally masculine activities.
Why do something that every mainstream media is doing.
I think the major thing that's missing here is how this series approaches "showing emotion". Yes, it is very healthy for men to be "in touch" with their emotions but the entire concept is being put forth like that means being more like women. "See, when men start behaving more like women, start breaking the stereotypes against showing emotion, their lives get better". It hasn't been stated that explicitly but it's right there if you are looking for it. Iman and the crew have done an admirable job in trying to pull out cultural bias' where they can but this keeps sticking around. There needs to be a discussion about why men naturally hide from emotion (that doesn't demonize it), what *not* hiding looks like for men in juxtaposition from women (because they explore their emotions very differently and for different reasons), and a highlighting of the fact that men and women do not mean the same thing when they talk about their emotions. As much as there is a need to break the cultural norm of running from emotion, there needs to be breaking of emotion being a feminine trait. Men have as much need to be like women as women have of being a man. Men don't need to get in touch with their feminine side to be whole, they need to go deeper into their masculinity, for in it, there is wholeness. Everything they are meant to be is found in there.
interestedmeow I don’t think this series has implied that showing emotion is a feminine trait but a human trait that women are usually better at
The expectation, tasks, roles, and (to an extent) strengths of men require emotional sensitivity less (than those of girls and women). This can be exaggerated in families in peril.
It might be that some of these young men didn’t have great relationships with their fathers. I really hope they all come through.
Another great episode. Was really interesting to hear those guys talk about their experiences
Cracking stuff Iman and co!
Thanks Matt - IA
As a lot of others have said, I think it would be interesting to talk with office workers, particularly around mental health. I think a loss of identity and resulting depression is huge in this area.
This entire series has been a pleasure and a joy to watch, smile my way through every episode seeing fellow young men opening up and pro-actively improving their lot in life. Bravo
I am enjoying this series immensely. I would like to see a more balanced view of masculinity from different classes. You have rightly focused on the working class man as that is the most common stereotype people would associate with masculinity but I would be interested in the views of more privileged classes also to get an over-all view of the concept.
She did that in a previous episode and people were pissed off that she interviewed upper class folks.
This is the best series available on youtube right now. Open, honest discussion on a narrative not nearly explored enough.
@K Korona to be honest I have not followed their coverage on brexit. But your point on right wingers being censored does tie in nicely with this series to a degree. Would be a good topic to cover as well.
I think this series, if done in the States, would not be received so positively. The race dynamics in the US are far too loaded and politicized, even if Iman would be doing the same thing. Which I think is really heartbreaking because our boys and young men of all races, regardless on the level of challenges they face, really do need proper guidance, not the shit served up by toxic characters.
The Guardian in the UK is the toxic character im afraid
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@@schrodingersferret4092 Dis isnt toxic doe
Not sure what you mean, why would race dynamics make it hard to make series on masculinity?
@@nomnom2969 Cos sex is too
Thank you for this series. It's a conversation that is so important in our society. I'm really grateful that you've not shied away from it, even though it's such a controversial topic. Some of the best journalism I've seen in my life. My kind of journalism is all about starting conversations, not prescribing answers and opinions. Thank you, please keep them coming!
Insightful! I think it's not that because men have no one to talk to, it's just the culture that does not yet have the language to decipher the expression of men's emotions, or in other words, our culture is not yet ready for men to express their feelings. And thus even if men do find the courage to open up, they'd be continually be colliding into a sort of brick wall. But here's to hoping that wall crumbles eventually one day.
Not sure I agree with you Hambali. I think emotions are emotions, but we do express them differently. I think because we are often not taught to connect with them we struggle to identify them and communicate them.
I liked what the guy in the video said about owning your story. If we are waiting for society to do something we will always be left without. These guys demonstrated that if we each take ownership where we are, we can create the spaces needed to learn and grow together.
It seems that the only thing strange here is trying to force a pattern that works for woman as the only viable option. The ones having a problem it seems are women, then try to project it onto men
vertigoz but then when women bottle things up and don't communicate verbally men complain about not being mind-readers and how difficult women are. See it goes both ways.
Hambali Junaidie Hamdan this is slightly off topic but if men really show their emotions and crying their eyes out women don’t like it.
I don’t mind a man crying briefly and then regain composure and control.
So be careful what you wish for as they say
@@justonetime6179 women expects men to understand but don't do extra mile because they see themselves entitled to, men don't care. It's like someone is creating a problem that didn't existed before
Thank you so much for this series!
We need more examples of this content; not just in western countries but throughout the world. Men need support and a safe space but also need to not be ashamed of embracing their masculinity.
I try to open discusion on modern masculinity but in seems almost as a taboo in my country. I am glad there are men who can openly speak about this.Thanks for this series!
Love the series.. Much love from Cape Town South Africa
@K Korona and why is it his fault he lives, probably even born, in South Africa? There might be shit going on over there, but that doesn't mean everyone supports that.
@K Korona ????????????
It's nice to see an honest, non judgemental approach at talking about masculinity
The one thing that is extremely important about this series is that it shows that men wants to be heard, are willing to be heard, and are willing to discuss the idea of masculinity, but more often than not they are not given the platform to do so without facing severe backlash, we always see news shows bringing in feminists to talk about how horrible the world is for women, but the only times we bring in men to talk about men and masculinity its always in a framework of a feminist man, or setting him up against a feminist to try and make her look better.
I love this series. Makes me so optimistic
Mad respect for the Guardian doing this one
I really hope this goes mainstream. The modern narrative of men just constantly being barraged as if they're inherently broken is far too pervasive. I honestly loathed the guardian before, but this is just very surprising work.
This is what's needed in communities! Most young men nowadays have no positive role models in their lives!
this is incredible. I really enjoy thinking about the social ideas this creates. Thanks so much for bringing this series to the world!
Really loved this episode(This and the 2nd one were beautiful). I really feel like I can relate to Ben's thoughts. Ive always tried and shut off my emotions, because I was scared and didnt know what to do, or who to turn to.
It’s fine to have an emotion and to show an emotion. There are times for that, and times for the stiff upper lip. Emotional control is how to stand up for yourself without escalating to a fight. That’s an important part of masculinity!
This journalist has done a fantastic job with Modern Masculinity.
I was wondering if Iman Amrani has covered any other subjects.
@iman I think this series is great.. mentoring is important. But I think it would be be great if you interviewed fathers and sons (specifically estranged ones..) . I find myself wondering what is their thought process (fathers that left families) on their sons.. and in exchange the way to their sons feel about it..
Great episode! And it was really good that the idea of generational segregation was lifted in this episode. Cuz thats one HUGE aspect of the masculinity crisis. Because young men often haven't got an older male role model nowadays. Just 50-100 years ago we still had that. Living close to relatives of older generations or in small communities. So thats something we've lost pretty recently in the West.
And also that too many boys are growing up without their father, which is a pretty new thing. I would add that all-male-spaces, are also looked upon as an old and sexist thing. Like a boys-club, or boy scouts... So if everything has to be inclusive, these spaces will be lost. So the idea that men can't share feelings, cry or talk about things, doesn't hold true historically.
Anyways, good episode!
Ligeia D.Aurevilly I don’t think gender segregated clubs/places should be the norm because that’s not a reflection of society and especially children should have spaces to get used to other genders but there’s nothing wrong with a few places being gender segregated
Respect is not given, it is earned.
Would be nice is up did one in the US. Would like to hear everyone their perspective and if they think differently. Loving the series anyways. Looking forward to the next video
Excellent again. Thank you.
I’m wondering if you have any plans to talk to men in the military? That’s another stereotypically masculine environment that has had to change a lot in a generation as it has become more diverse.
Another interesting group to chat with would be gay men.
Lastly, I think it would be good to talk with women about modern masculinity and what women really expect aside from the activists and utopians. That’s a huge, diverse demographic, but perhaps there are some women’s groups that are actively working in this field. Perhaps single mothers of boys? Just a notion.
Enjoying your series from the USA.
Really cool suggestions, hope she'll take a few of them :)
Good intention but I feel you missed a chance to go deeper to the great work a Band of Brothers does.
Masculinity work is about respect and self responsibility and growing up inside.
Great series. Look forward to each episode!
Wonderful series
Thank you. This conversation is so important.
If you can, I think it would be interesting to talk to people inside the incel movement and Jordan Peterson’s following too - both are an expression of modern masculinity, for better or worse, and I think they both need to be understood, acknowledged, and addressed.
Love this series! Thank you!
Great job, thank you. Keep up the good work. I'm looking forward to 'different faces of feminity' next.
fantastic series
Thank you so much for this documentary
Weird. It's almost as if men are people and not a bunch of evil villains.
Yeah its amazing how well men respond when we aren't being lectured to as if the only problem at hand is how we treat women.
Really good and deep series! Well done!!!
End it off with getting JP on the series :)
Tbf not to have a go at the presenter who is great. But it's not just men who are uncomfortable with sharing emotions. But everyone else (women) don't like it either when men share emotions.
Edit:I go to an allotment project:I just dig too.
@Ligeia D.Aurevilly I know what you mean and it's a hard thing to explain. I've never asked a man to open up emotionally to me; I've never had to because they would open up very easily as I was a good listener.
Unfortunately I felt like an emotional waste disposal unit/unpaid counsellor, which was draining.
So I'm not really into the "getting men to share their feelings" having been on the receiving end of it.
I think what has happened is that some men keep so much inside them that when they get a safe place to unload, then it all comes tumbling out and then it becomes overwhelming for the recipient if it's unexpected.
It also feels like this is somewhat alien to who they really are, which is why it feels weird and uncomfortable to others around them.
When men open up in a way consistent with their masculine energy and identity it feels very different to when they do so in a "feminine" way and trying to get them to do so otherwise is just counterproductive.
This episode was heart warming, I think the guys were right about lacking the community in which you can talk to people on an emotional level is destructive. I love this series keep it up.
K Korona what? Wait so you’re saying that she comes from a kind of backwards culture where they hate women, as such she... no I don’t get your point
I really felt......the man u don't want to be, and u balance off of that.
the generational aspect in this one REALLY interested me!
Good job with this series
can't believe im saying this.. but well done Guardian
>you are grandad
>so you have children then?
What
Maybe he identifies with having children who had children
Great Episode!
Such a great series..
0:52 My guy Morgan Freeman just chilling at an AA
Iman Amrani, carry on !
You are doing a great job, Keep UP !
Another fantastic piece. Thank you 🙏
Loving this series
Awesome series btw :)
How do you come up with the questions to ask these guys? It all seems off the cuff.
Any chance you could go to other countries like Canada, Sweden etc and see whats going on with masculinity over there?
What would be interesting is a or some women's view on modern masculinity, because it also affects them
Great job on the series always makes my day a bit better to watch these videos
I'm cautious about that idea. I think women generally have many more outlets helping them voice their opinions and having those opinions taken seriously (even when the opinions are poorly thought out rubbish).
With that in mind, I think it could be an interesting episode. It's just one that would need to be handled more carefully because it could very easily break the trust this series has been developing with me, and I assume other men.
Good work :) Maybe something with the women perspective for the next time ? And also, sometimes it's not easy to understand as English is not my first language. Maybe subtitles ? YTs auto generated subtitles are really not good... Anyway, I really appreciate the work you do to make masculinity something clearer and brighter. Do something with the ladies i'm sure it would be interesting. ;)
Hey, we've done the subtitles on this series ourselves, so when you click the subtitles button they should be accurate!
@@theGuardian Oh god. Sorry, i did the effort, without giving it a try. It wasnt about your subtitles ! ^^' Well ! Let me have a second watch :)
this is so interesting!
Damn good journalism