Saturn 3 vs Saturn 2: Resolution matters
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2023
- This is my 2nd part of the Elegoo Saturn 3 12K review - comparing it side by side with the Saturn 2. The improvements go beyond resolution - this is a solid resin printer.
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The "Ultra" has Wifi, ACF release film and a 4-point levelling system
The Saturn 3 and Saturn 3 Ultra have the same resolution and generous big build-plate.
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1st Part: Saturn 3 and it’s amazing 12k resolution:
ua-cam.com/video/WGRoTCiIlts/v-deo.html
I love that I have found your channel, your technical approach to things is something that is needed in the resin printing youtuber space, I love your videos, I look forward to more! Thank you sir!
Oh, thank you so much! Very kind words that made my day ❤️ Welcome to the channel - now I have a much better, dedicated space for my studio/workshop, so, making new videos is much less painful than when we lived on a small apartment.
Son, I enjoyed watching you print some of these and learned a bit more. Congrats on the assembling it for these nice shots for Time-lapses. Great job! ❤️
who how many videos, you are on fire!! keep going!
Thanks!!! Ha ha! Now that I have a dedicated studio/workshop, production is being far more fluid than when I had it on a closet. That tiny apartment was SO CRAZILY packed with equipment and printers... I don't even want to remember our last year.
@@GeekDetour jjajaa
Insanely underrated creator, thank you.
Hi there!!! Thanks! ❤ But it is completely my fault - up to now I published very few videos… My “studio” was a closet on a small apartment. We moved to a big old house and now I have a dedicated space for my Workshop - more videos on the way!
Awesome! I am the ELEGOO discord, and one user actually replaced the one loud fan on their Mars 3 with two silent ones. It is great that ELEGOO made the fans silent when idle, since the Saturn 3 now supports WiFi, which makes it convenient to have the printer on and idle.
Oh, the Saturn 3 Ultra has Wifi. The normal Saturn 3 only the SDCard
@@GeekDetour Oof
I love videos that point out specific technical details and both the pro/cons and human experience that may contradict the otherwise obvious upgrade--well done !! So my experience/history with casting is limited to lost wax. Can you utilize one of these prints and burn it out cleanly to cast it in bronze or aluminum, stainless steel, etc.
Oh, thanks! Yeah - human perception is a tricky amusing thing ❤️
About casting with different metals: Absolutely! Here is a video from VOGman - he is using another printer, but the the resin works on all UV printers: ua-cam.com/video/60Vn49uBA9I/v-deo.html
@@GeekDetour thanks for the quick response--I might invest in one of these soon! & I’ll check out the video
Very nice work, I’m in to S3 now 😊 but do you know if standard resin will work as well as fast resin or 8K resin
Enjoyed the comparison video. I recently purchased a Saturn 2 and my fans don't run until I start printing like the Saturn 3. Im guessing maybe Elegoo made some changes after the initial release of the Saturn 2.
Oh, that’s interesting! Maybe there is a firmware update…. Could you try to find your firmware version on the printer?
@@GeekDetour I ended up wanting to check this myself after the video! I have one of the first Saturn 2's that shipped, got super lucky on the early bird purchases!
@@TunneLVisioN42So, your Saturn 2 is silent when not printing? Maybe I got a pre-production unit to make my review. I need to check if I can update my Saturn 2 firmware.
Nice video ! Thanks :) Do you think the extra price for the ultra is worth it ? Have you had any issue with the ball joint system ? Thanks again :)
I don’t have the Ultra myself, but yes, I think the 4 screws build plate bracket is more reliable and easier to level than the original ball joint system we are used to.
Hi, I'm looking at buying a Saturn 3 but totally new to 3d printing. I'm planning to download 3d model templates but not design my own. How big is the learning curve just to print existing 3d models. Its it relatively straightforward or will there be a bit of practice before getting good results?
Also just wondering whether it's safe to print using resins in a home environment. Is there any risk of fumes/toxin build up and if the usb air purifier enough to clear this? Many thanks
Resin printing is not so hard to obtain impressive results. It is far easier than with Filament printers. You just need to master leveling the build plate. Resin has a cleaning and curing process that can be tedious… cleaning with alcohol, like, two or 3 times, and drying well with a hair dryer… removing supports, then curing (could be in the sun, but a curing station is VERY recommended and convenient). Results are always impressive. There are a few things to learn… you should work far from windows - or do it at night, otherwise UV light starts curing the resin before it is actually dry and ready to actually cure. The smell is a reality. If you can do it an a garage, or a ventilated room it helps a lot… although, if the room temperature is under 20°C, the Resin doesn’t behave well. 25°C is the ideal temperature. I printed a few things when we lived on an apartment. It was not nice. The smell was evident. Today I have a dedicated space for my printers and work. I leave it printed at night when I am not there.
What about the health aspect of these printers? Are dangerous fumes formed? Great video! Thanks a lot!
Yeah: Resins are… nasty. There is no other word 😂 The Air Purifier helps a lot with the smell - almost nothing - while it is printing with the lid closed. But when it is open, and when you need to wash, than pour the resin back to the bottle… all this processing has a bad smelling. Some resins are nastier then others… some are almost pleasant. The norm is: you need a ventilated space - but without natural light anywhere close to where you will process the prints and deal with the resin.
Yeah your saturn 2 needs the update! I got mine 6 weeks ago no fan until press print and shuts off when finished and pausing! Elegoo fixed this after Faux hammers video you just have to update it! I got a march 2023 date build on mine so was done out the factory! I am still getting the saturn 3 ultra next week as was going to get another saturn 2 anyway but then these came out so I'll pick one up as one is just not enough! I have 2 smaller anycubics mono 2 there great but need a second larger one, thats the way you get fast prints is having more than 2 printers going at the same time!
Thanks! I think you are right, you are the second person to mention that their Saturn 2 got quiet when not printing. I will look for the firmware update.
Thanks for sharing
My pleasure! Thanks for watching 😁
My wife's mom preordered the Saturn 4 for as a gift, but really when I compare the specs of the 4 to the 3 it looks like the 3 is better!?! The 3 and 4 have the same specs (resolution and all) other than the 3 has a 1" (25 mm) greater Z build length, AND the 3 works with a plug-n-play air purifier whereas for the 4 you have to buy a separate system... Why would someone buy the 4? Is that fancy flip lid really worth it? If that's all it offers then personally I think not.
Look, I think that the new bed system without the ball head, the latch and the automatic bed leveling makes the Saturn 4 way more easy to print. The cover is an extra convenience. What really made me happy was the bed and not having to adjust it. I will print a whole lot more with the 4. Anyway, you are right: the 3 was very good already. But it is more expensive anyways, isn’t it? I would spend the difference in resins or a washing/curing station if you don’t have any.
Those are features that aren't seen in the specs, so I appreciate the input. I just would hate to keep waiting on it because my Photon M3 burnt out :( @GeekDetour
Resins för functional parts... ? What? When? Soooon I hope! I have looked for this for some time (hoping it will not cost too much extra from ordinary resin)! 😉 How much does it differ from resins like "ABS-like" resins?
Oh, no! ABS-Like is definitely not for functional parts. I tried Sunlu Nylon-like and it is MUCH better. Prints better, looks really like plastic later, tougher - but it shrinks a bit, like all resins. We need to calculate a shrinking factor and it needs a week to shrink to the final size… Yeah: resins for functional parts is not straightforward - but for really small parts it can be nice. As long as you have time to wait for it to reach the final size.
Dead pixels on the S3 in the microscope image?
Oh, it’s not dead pixels - it’s a pattern. To my understanding it was something on the image they used as “Exposure Test”. Need to check if it is still there when “cleaning vat” or when printing.
Great video!
Under your microscope, we can see some black dots at regular spacings... 3:07
Any guess what this could be?
I had a defective saturn8k I sent back. It had defective areas on screen, and on those printed areas I saw regular spaced dots ...
Thanks! I can see a “diamond” spaced distribution of darker pixels. I have no idea yet if it translates into the prints - and if it could be noticeable at naked eyes.
To my needs it prints perfectly - but I am super curious and following every user’s group of printers that use these new 12k Mono LCDs.
To me the biggest discussion is ACF films vs NFEP films - which types of prints are affected by the ACF micro texture. Maybe Jewelry makers will decide for NFEP, and most other users will prefer the speed and ease of print that ACF brings.
looking at getting my first 3d printer. Saturn 2 or 3. for about £7 more i can get a Saturn 3, should i go for it or settle for a Saturn 2
Since it is your first printer, Saturn 3 for sure.
W❤️W! That’s Tremendously Awesome! Cheers!🥂❤️✨
Thank you! 😄
what about the dead pixels at 3:08 in saturn 3 lol
Oh, I looked all my Resin printer’s LCDs under the microscope: there are ALWAYAS dead pixels scattered here and there. But it really doesn’t matter: a single dead pixel in the middle of the solid won’t affect: resin will solidify just because of the light that spills from the pixels around it. The worst scenario is a vertical wall that goes up exactly on that pixel and it might “scratch” a vertical line (but that’s a very odd corner case).
Pra quem vai comprar impressora pelo aliexpress, os modelos anteriores tendem a cair de preço com o lançamento do novo?
Olha, eu não sei como está o preço no AliExpress - a Elegoo baixou o preço dos modelos anteriores em sua própria loja.
Can the Saturn 3 build plate be used on the Saturn 2?
I never tried but they looked dimensionally identical…
I just rec the Saturn 3 12k... after 6 attempts this so called great machine has yet to finish one job and I'm talking about the rook. The print set up by the company. As far as customer support good luck. You are better off buying a Potters wheel and some clay at least you could get something for your money.
Oh, that sucks… Please, is it your first Resin Printer? I cannot stress enough how important it is to have the build plate leveled at equal distance on all corners (using a sheet of A4). I hope you can figure out and start enjoying it 🤞
Waiting for mine 😂
Loads of fun coming in your way! 🤗👍
New video 🎉
I am SO happy now that I finally have a dedicated - separate from the house - space where I am making my studio! ❤️🤗🎉🎊
full threaded rod is cheaper then partly threaded rod
FauxHammer also published his review of the Saturn 3 12k - if you are into miniatures, you will love it:
ua-cam.com/video/V1Wy_TggG8s/v-deo.html
Never used chitubox yet with my saturn 2 alway lychee!
And I barely opened Lychee 🤣 I want to use it more - actually, I so much want to print more with resin… I have 10x more experience with filament.
If the saturn 2 and saturn 3 is "basically the same", why aren't they selling upgrade kits for Saturn 2 8K owners, like myself?? :(
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Isn't it 24 micron? What everyone else is saying it is
It is 19 microns on X and 24 microns on Y. On my understanding we can calculate it to be 21,35 microns, by calculating the “area” of a single pixel and square rooting it.
Eu fui um dos usuários que não sabia que tinha que remover o plástico do carvão do filtro 🫤
Sério? Mas você tinha descoberto isso já faz um tempo né? Ou acabou de descobrir isso no vídeo? 😂 Acontece nas melhores famílias 🤷♂️
@@GeekDetour Vi no seu video de review da Saturn 2! Hahahahaha
@@helderlimaletsgoahhhh! Há há há. Super legal! Estamos aqui: para entreter e instruir 🤣❤🤗
Could you please tell me if the Saturn 2 and Saturn 3 resin vats are identical? Thanks.
They look identical to me.
Thanks for the quick reply. I thought since you had both machines you might have tried interchanging them. @@GeekDetour
I'm waiting to move and have more space to bring a new printer home. 😢😜
Danilo, how are you doing man!!! ❤️🤗 We finally bought a house here in Spain, out of the city… all the Space we always dreamed about! Old house, lots of work… but I can make all the crazy things I want SEPARATE from home.
People are so weird about noise, I sleep with a goddamn fan on....
Ha ha, yeah. I usually sleep so tired that noises don’t wake me up… Noise is definitely not a deal breaker - but it is annoying to know the machine could be hanging dead silent when it’s idle, but somebody decided to jump cut such simple feature. pS: it seems even the Saturn 2 got silent when idle after a Firmware update.
when more square screen not 16/9 format
I see dead pixel on Saturn 3 😅