Horror Timelines Episode 55 : the Grudge and Ju-On
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- Опубліковано 2 січ 2020
- join me as i journey through the complicated timeline of Grudge series, as well as the original Ju-On series from Japan. Will it make any sense, or will it make us all burp?
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"Hope your ready for 2020"
No amount of preparation could have prepared us for this year
Couldn't stop laughing at that. Like he knew 2020 was going to be a bad year.
That started a ju-on
His father is Takeo. Saeki is the family name.
Yeah that's the mistake
Japanese names work differently, instead of it being like North America names where personal name comes first than your family name, it’s actually in reverse. so kayakos husbands first name is takeo.
Thanks
I thought “Saeki “ was the family’s last name
The "face flattening" clip had me in stitches. Along with all the reboots, actor changes (no longer having Takako Fuji), the franchise basically went from genuine horror, to bad parody of itself.
Trueness
"2020 is gonna be all about Horror..."
Yep, pretty much.
I was just wondering how my vacation could be any better and then a new horror timeline video came out. Great video and great referencing evil dead and ghost of mars
2020s getting off with a bang. I'm pretty fond of the first two Ju-On: The Grudge films and the first American film. I can't believe you haven't done the Ring series yet. I was absolutely convinced you had. Can't wait.
Wow! This was an exhaustive piece of work you turned in. I was pleasantly surprised to see the overall watching order summary at the end.
After all this I may have to increase my Patreon! Your link to your Patreon in the video description section isn’t a link on the UA-cam iOS app by the way. Maybe it’s missing the like the other links have?
Hmm. I’ll have to check it out. And if you think this was exhaustive....wait til i get to bond. James Bond.
@@movietimelines Oh man. I watched every bond in a row about two years back. Took me a month. It was actually pretty fun, there's a lot of quality in there, and a lot of schlock to laugh at.
@@movietimelines Can you also do The Ringu (The Ring) series?
Happy New Year! This is a great start. I had know idea there was so many series of this.
The new movie had about a jump scare every 5 minutes. It gets ridiculously predictive after 30min of it
It's good you're doing more horror timeline videos, they're my favourite
Keep up the great work bud! Happy new year to you and your family!
Well actually the new grudge isn't exactly a remake it just takes place in a different house with a different curse
copycat brain And is disappointingly awful unfortunately -_-
@@N1KM4CH1N4 yeah
@@grosspapillon9336 well for one the woman at the beginning was planning to be a nurse and live in Japan so is she was just planning to leave her family behind which literally made no sense also they got rid of the main antagonist you only see her for a couple of seconds plus most of the spirits make her croaking sounds to just cover up that she's not there which is a stupid decision not all of them died that way to make that croaking sound if you are going to get rid of the main antagonist at least be original plus the plot was stupid.
@@grosspapillon9336 yes they may have moved away from kayako but you would least see her for about 7 seconds which is the best scene in the movie plus points really aren't that valid either yeah sure kayoko may have switched places but they didn't "move away from her" in 2009 it was basically them saying that the grudge won't stop and they still got rid of the main antagonist which the original series still kept plus the American remake trilogy still kept her around this movie however got rid of her and to think that they could cover it up with making the other spirits have the same sound cir when they didn't die in the same way that she did you don't see her son make that sound do you? He makes a cat sound because the spirits in the movie aren't all that terrifying infact a lot of people literally laughed and it's not that the critics are too harsh it's just that this was over all the bad movie you don't just take away original antagonist which has been the main antagonist for the past 3 movies and the original movies and most of those spirits didn't look like her or her son Aubrey died and she looks like them while these spirits look like Samara from The Ring and yes I agree there is no accounting for taste I never said anything about that if you like the movie that is fine and pesce did not make a "valiant" effort it's like he didn't even try and at the end of the movie it shows the same thing over and over again will the others are clear concise to the point even the American remakes actually showed you and a few scenes instead of told you this guy however came to the conclusion hey I guess the audience really is that stupid why don't we just tell them instead of showing them yikes and I thought the last Airbender movie was bad I'll looking at the rotten tomatoes and hopefully never see this movie again
@@grosspapillon9336 I never said he wasn't I think his work is really good however this movie is just a really bad movie and when people are doing that to his first studio effort they're calling him out on it when he messes up in this movie was really bad and he messed up he really messed up he thought that the audience was stupid she needed to show us not tell us and what did he do he told us and that's what most movies get wrong we don't want to be told the story we want the story to be showed to us if he was really a fan of the original movies then he would follow what they would do he would show it to us and he would know that getting rid of the main antagonist isn't going to make the fans happy it's going to do a complete opposite effect actually that's what he needs to get plus he needs to make the spirits more terrifying if he's going to make this horror movie an actual horror movie I make it a silent film with no music like the original trilogy that will make the movie more terrifying and make the main antagonist the catalyst behind everything not just make another house cursed
"We are still in Japan but everyone is... American?" Ah, you mean an Anime lol
Joey you’re Japanese speak English!!
Thanks for blowing my fucking eardrums out at 25:25. Really appreciate it.
You could of called her Daphne LoL
She will always....always....be Buffy to me. :)
Wasn't she in Scream, or some other 90s slasher flick?
She was in multiple. She’s in the first “i know what you did...” and in scream 2.
15:49 - 15:54 lmao! This was a great video, thanks!
I really disliked how they made Toshio the "main" evil....like no, that's a lie, it's Kayako. Don't even try to assume its anything else haha
Well the real EVIL is takeo. She is just a vengeful spirit unable to determine right from wrong.
@@ApolloStratistrue. Poor Kayako
Well done on this video
Sadako vs Kayako is GREAT!
Can't wait till you do the Ring series. It started as a tv movie in 1995 titled "Ring: Kenzenban". The original theatrical film "Ringu" was released in 1998. The original film had two alternate sequels, "Rasen" (1998) and "Ring 2"(1999) and a prequel, "Ring 0 Birthday"(2000). Rasen then had 3 sequels, "Sadako 3D"(2012), "Sadako 3D 2"(2013) and "Sadako"(2019). There was also a tv series sequel to the original film called "Ring: The Final Chapter"(1999), which itself spawned a tv series sequel also called "Rasen"(1999). Then, there's the Korean remake "The Ring Virus"(1999), and, last but not least, the American trilogy (The Ring, The Ring 2 and Rings), released in 2002, 2005 and 2017.
😅
yikes.
Yeah. It’s probably going to be even more challenging than the grudge series.
You forgot Sadako vs. Kayako!
Pitting the two ghost girls against each other is a cool idea. My guilty pleasure are fan films that has horror icons fighting, some are decent, some are horrible, but they are usually fun.
Who would win in a fight, though. The leprechaun or the wishmaster?
Movie Timelines I think ultimately Wishmaster would win as the Leprechaun has numerous exploitable would weaknesses. The real fun in the battle would be if the Leprechaun has the Stone of the Secret Fire and the Djinn has the pot of gold, and they try to outdo each other by making the other grant them wishes.
I think that’s where the lep has the upper hand. The wishmaster can’t do anything if the other person doesn’t make a wish, whereas our little guy can kinda do what he wants!
@@movietimelines The Djinn is good at exploiting other people though, and he plays fast and loose with what he considers "wishes"
I want to make this movie so bad now
Can’t wait for you to do the ring series!
You skipped the Korean movies!
No wait; those are in THE RING franchise.
Man, these yurei movies all start to smoosh together in my brain. I blame all those hair massages.
Yes, i actually have no clue which ones I’ve seen at this point. I think I’ve seen all the ring movies, but they might have been grudge movies, or even “the eye” or even “pulse.”
Loved all the references for the main leads when you covered the first US release (ID4, Ghosts of Mars, Buffy, LOST, etc)
Also got your Spitting Image reference too. You must be older than you look. ;)
Small correction Toshi was killed by his mother in the original Juon, his father kills him in the American version
toshio my Fvourite
Really?
@@lessismore8533 Yes he is alive when the teacher comes over and the father asks him to take care of him for him when he calls (note in the original the father is killed never making it back home). In the American remake it’s implied that the father drowned him.
I appreciate your videos, thank you.
Sucked into a fridge... Hmm, is there a horror movie about a haunted fridge? Possibly one that eats you if you open it too many times? If not, someone call, uh... CryptTV, maybe?
CryptTV sucks.
@@GribbleGob Cool, then you can make that movie
@@AlexOvTheAbyss Why don't you if you care that much.
@@GribbleGob Man, someone woke up on the wrong side of their mom this morning
There actually is a horror movie about a killer fridge, called Attack of the Killer Refrigerator. Came out in 1984, & is incredibly hard to find.
Really good content
Keep up the good work 🙏
I never knew juon was tv movie before actucal movie i love the first juon movie
RandomGaming2.0 It came on late night showing.
Lmao calling Ted "Henrietta" is perfect!
The movies were released on TV at night as Japan’s TV standards don’t allow horror, bloody violence or gore on TV unless it’s late afternoon to late night. Cuz day time showings can’t show this level of violence. And since this is a horror film the filmwas shown late at night.
That baseball game really got me😂😂
Great video, as always! Would you be willing to share where you found all these films? I'm a freak and a completionist about things like this, and I really want to watch all of these movies in order from start to finish. I assumed there would a DVD set with all of them, but I can't find much
believe it or not, but a bunch of them were just on youtube. the full movies.
Understood! That will work for me then! Thanks!
I like your stuff sir xD
Both The Grudge/Ju-On and Amityville feature family annihilators, so there's that... and now I have a sudden urge to play Fatal Frame. I know you focus on movies but I could seriously use a timeline video for THAT series!!
I recommend cursed mountain on wii and pc, that game has serious grudge vibes
Juon the Grudge came out when I was born, how Lovely!
So I watched the 3rd Ju-on...I never saw all of these...holy crap 😱 I had no idea there was so many...🤯😬😵ok I got a lil lost 😅 thanks for doing this timeline.❤
"We're focusing on horror timelines all year long"
Mans was right
11:00
AMEN! She’ll always be Buffy man!
SMG is a great Scream Queen no wonder they picked her
Yeah... I think you could say 2020 had a lot of horror.
I swear i predicted this one. Last night i just randomly thought
"Ill betcha the new horror timelines is The Grudge"
I’m getting too easy to figure out!
Could you do a Puppet Master movie timeline, @@movietimelines?
Adam Gray check out Horror Timelines Episode 15 and Horror Timelines Updates Episode 2!
Cool, @@movietimelines. Thanks man!
Keep up the great vids.
21:56 That's a typo. In parenthesis it says Heisei 7, which is 1995, so the only part that doesn't match up is where it says 1997 right next to it. 1997 was actually the year Heisei 9, so given that the other written dates conform to Heisei 7, 16, and 26, and 1997 being Heisei 7 being flat out incorrect in the real world as the Heisei era started in 1989, AND the fact that we've seen the years written out in both the nengo era and Gregorian calendar years, we can rule out the possibility that in this universe Emperor Hirohito died two years later, and say with confidence that the newspaper simply had a misprint.
It's weird that it happened, but accepting someone made a mistake in the prop department when everything else lines up INCLUDING THAT PROP is way easier than assuming we're in an alternate timeline where 1990 was Showa 65 and part of 1991 was Showa 66. THAT would be a definite worldbuilding choice and they'd probably elude to it somehow.
good catch! i think because it said the date so plainly, i didn’t even look at the rest of the writing there, but yeah, it basically says 1997 (1995) lol.
Can't wait for Netflix to release Ju-on originals.
will you be doing the Ring/ Ringu movies
The old lady ghost with the basketball from Ju-On: White Ghost is VERY similar (to the point where it can't be a coincidence) to a horror short I saw which I think predates the film, where a ghost from a mirror attacks two guys in a gymnasium.
Man you rock Sir
I love this video but I got confused with the names on how you pronounce them lol
Like kayako and kyoko, you pronounced them both as kiyoko 🥲
But in the juon white ghost, it wasnt the dad who killed everyone, but the brother. The brother was also doing “something” to the kid that’s why the grandma ghost has a ball - when the brother goes to the kid, the grandma would interfere. Akane (high school girl) felt guilty for not helping her friend. It’s a good movie.
Also I want to add there’s a tv show of juon on Netflix and it’s amazing. They’re talking about the very beginning of the house and such. Yayaoi from the beginning to the end movie version is featured there, the actress, different character 🙂
23:53 See your pain and suffering was all worth it in the end!
I liked the disjointed structure of the original Grudge (which I basically got to see for free when I attended a preview of After the Sunset). I had three basic problems with it though: (1) Why didn't Karen at least try to call her boyfriend to warn him against going into the house, since the movie had already established the ghosts could interfere with phone lines?; (2) How does killing people who had nothing to do with your death constitute a grudge?; (3) If stepping into the house is all that's required for the ghosts to go after someone, why don't they go after the realtor, and does he not notice that everyone he brings to that house dies?
You’re #3 answered your #2
This series is the scariest movie series of all time. I still cant watch it without being creeped out
From what I heard is that it's not a full-on remake, but a pre-sequel or spin-off set between the first two American remakes.
I hope so! I really hope it's not just a reboot!
2:27 oh I get it! So this girl is the Japanese counterpart of Yoko from the US Grudge
That movie scares me as a kid it’s my favorite horror movie
I've seen all these movies.
This passed week, I did the whole The Ringu/Ringu series, (I can't believe there 12 movies in that series now)
i haven't done the Ringu series yet. it's probably one of the few BIG franchises i haven't hit yet. have to get to that soon.
the 2020 remake grudge was honestly not as bad as i heard, i loved it. the curse was brought back to America from Japan at the very beginning of the movie. different spirits.
Them Japanese Ju-On movies are scary the American ones with Sarah Michelle Gellar are ok.
True, I love Ju-on I just bought them, the Japanses ones are the best. But I also bought the 3 Ameican ones, they are ok and fun to watch.
The grudge 2020 isn't a remake it's canon to the 2004 remake.
Grudge 2020 is being treated like it because it might as well be one since no one cares. and *Canon
@Aaron Coats Wow so original calling someone a *Grammar nazi.
16:45 “her face is white” yah because though The Grudge 3 was lackluster, they DID get the Japanese Onryo look correct. White gown with long dark hair.
Call it my skeptical nature, but I don't see the remake of The Grudge going anywhere.
ben trimble watched it lastnight. it was garbage. didn’t even feel like a grudge movie.
Hank Grossen never said that. just didn’t feel like a grudge movie to me. felt like i was watching something else
Asian Horror Movies are the best
Yep thats for sure i love the ju-on the grudge movies
i love the grudge way better then ringu and shutter
So...does Sadako vs Kayako make The Grudge series a Ringu series prequel?
25:16
I’d say Sadako BECAUSE The Ring franchise was there before the Grudge one
17:14 It took me sooo long to see the face there.. then I was confused thinking it was facing towards the left. I had to go back and replay those 5 seconds sooooooo many friggin times... I was able to see the eyeball eventually and then still could not figure out the angle she was facing... only took over half a minute to recognize the image and see her face looking towards the Camera, but really at the victim that's supposed to be there and is in the next scene)9
Wow... if I would have just had my phone brightness any higher than 'Lowest' then I could have clearly seen her whole head and the wall/or/door next to her.
Amanda is here to put him in a trap.
Hahahaha totally saw that coming
I live in Japan and I've visited the Juon house. Too bad I couldn't get inside.
How did you find a decent quality version of the Curse movies to watch? I could only ever find poor quality RIPs on youtube. I’d buy them on dvd if it was possible
I love the vide of this. I hate Nu Trek but Pic S3 has been a massive improvement.
The only movies that I recommend in the franchise are 4444444444 / Katasumi Ju-on: the curse 1&2, Ju-on: the grudge 1&2, The grudge 1&2, Ju-on: Blck Ghost, Ju-on: Beginning of the end, Ju-on: Final curse. The others are pure shit.
PS. this video is great
Fun fact, Ju-On: The Curse was the first horror movie to actually scare me.
The first American remake scared the crap out of me, when I first saw it. At the time, I'd never heard of the Ju-On films, but after seeing them on this video, I definitely want to check them out, as they look creepy as hell!!
You should.
Brandon Page I never bothered watching the Ju On movies until after the reboot released last week and I’m glad I did. I recommend you do the same.
The Grudge is the only horror movie that I have ever had turn off before finishing it. It scared me that bad. Even The Exorcist didn't scare me that much. Even now I can't watch The Grudge alone.
2:06 Bruh Moment...When Toshio was killed he became a vengeful spirit, when the husband murdered the cat, it’s soul fused with Toshio’s, that’s why he meows...
Are we ever going to get one on the Ring/Ringu?
Yes. I’ll probably give it a bit of space after this one, but I’ll definitely get to it.
The Curse turned me onto this style of Japanese horror movies. There is something about that style of Ghost Story telling that isn't really covered in the Western markets, there's an actual creepy vibe.
By “style “ could you please be more specific ? Sorry just curious
I have seen these all including the t.v. ones
Me and quite a few people wanted a 4th American Grudge movie but instead of getting a 4th movie we got a crappy remake instead
can you make a ring timeline video please?
I think you must revisited the franchise cause grudge 2020 is part of the main story timeline and we are a bit confused with the messy cuts
*Films*
Ju-On: The Curse (2000)
Ju-On: The Curse 2 (2000)
Ju-On: The Grudge (2002)
Ju-On: The Grudge 2 (2003)
The Grudge (2004)
The Grudge 2 (2006)
The Grudge 3 (2009)
Ju-On: White Ghost (2009)
Ju-On: Black Ghost (2009)
Ju-On: The Beginning Of The End (2014)
Ju-On: The Final (2015)
Sadako vs Kayako (2016)
The Grudge (2020)
*Short Films*
Katasumi (1998)
4444444444 (1998)
Tales From The Grudge (Part 1) (2006)
Tales From The Grudge (Part 2) (2006)
Tales From The Grudge (Part 3) (2006)
*TV Series*
Ju-On: Origins (2020)
*Manga*
Ju-On: Video Side (2005)
Ju-On 2 (2006)
*Video Games*
Sensation Of Fear: Ju-On (2009)
*Flash Games/Visual Novels*
Do You Have A Grudge (2006)
*Web-series*
The Grudge 1.5 (2006)
*Novels*
Ju-On (2003)
Ju-On: The Beginning Of The End (2014)
You will jizz your pants when you'll discover that the segments in the reboot are titled not by names but... By years! So it's 2004/2006. I just did your job there! 😜
You're gonna need to update this one right away haha! The 2020 film isn't a remake, it's actually another sequel/sidequel that takes place in the same universe as the last three American ones, from 2004-2006.
Well... it was originally intended as a total reboot, but evidently at some point they decided it should be a spinoff so there are a couple scenes (probably done in reshoots) that tie it into the other ones. And yet it's still basically a remake anyway because it repeats a lot of the same scenes and plot points...
But mostly it's a boring piece of shit.
I’ve heard mostly bad things so far, so I’ll probably hold off until it’s released at home, and at this rate, that’ll probably be next month.
At the time of typing this the video has 666 view which means I'm going to die after watching this video.
_seven days_
er, wait wrong movie
444 is the Japanese Equivalent to 666 here
4[shi] is actually a homonym in japan for death[shi].
such a shame most movies are pretty hard to get
Movie & Video Game Timelines: Reincarnation, Clive Barker’s Undying, Clive Barker’s Jericho, American McGee’s Alice & Alice: Madness Returns, Bioshock Saga (Bioshock Infinite & Burial at Sea Episodes 1 & 2, Bioshock Remastered, Bioshock 2 & Minerva’s Den Remastered), Monkey Island Saga (The Secret of Monkey Island: Special Edition, Monkey Island 2: LeChuck’s Revenge: Special Edition, Curse of Monkey Island, Escape from Monkey Island, Tales of Monkey Island Episodes 1-5), Back to the Future: The Game Episodes 1-5, Grim Fandango Remastered
Still makes more sense than Tomi. :P
4:56 oh now i get the joke im waching this agian because i finshed Watching all them except for the sequels of the american one the grudge 2 and 3
You must see the séries "Ju-On Origins" now ^^
Saw the new movie, and I felt like it focused more on jump scares than the atmosphere the first two american movies focused on well.
It had a few good moments but...meh.
Sadako Vs kayako too
Technically the Juon movies have like 3-4 reboots of the original tv movie
19:50 i dont get it whats uzamaki or what ever your said
I wonder how does the Ju-On Origins Netflix series fits into the timeline
they don't. they're not part of kayako's universe as ju-on was inspired by the events set in origins
Hey, he finally said Tomie right!
If Ghost Burps isn't the standard nomenclature for those noises she makes then it definitely should be 😂
Ghurps.
Pretty sure 4 is also death in Japanese. (there are 2 ways to say 4)
Hey. What about Ju-On: Origins on Netflix?