Curseforge's Biggest Competitor.
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- Опубліковано 11 сер 2023
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Curseforge is the biggest mod repository in Minecraft, however there is a new kid on the block, Modrinth, a new sleeker version of itself, the giant that is Curseforge, finally woke up and started making changed. But is Modrinth already too rooted in player's mind to be surpassed? Lets dive in this interesting history, and learn about Curseforge, Modrinth, and its future
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Modrinth:
modrinth.com/
What is Modrinth?:
blog.modrinth.com/p/whats-mod...
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I'm just happy we're getting more than one choice now for all our modding needs.
Same!
@@Cygnus_MC fart... hahahhah get farted on!!!
@@Enxvinity 🐘💨HAHAHA
There is Sodium on there!
I love modrinth but it really needs a comment section.
Ill pass that on!
Personally disagree, as someone who has authored projects on spigot and used curseforge for a very long time, the comments section is often used incorrectly, and it's really frustrating. By both authors and users. Users will often post stacktraces that actually have nothing to do with the project itself, and tell the author their project is broken. Other times, authors will respond to genuine comments with extremely rudeness. It's a major layer of moderation that would be required by the Modrinth team if it were to actually be used well. I do think it'd be nice for there to be a way to report issues through Modrinth to the resource owner, similar to how they recently made it possible to send messages directly to the Modrinth team on your own resource, but I don't think a public comment section is a good idea
Me getting " when will 1.20 release" every 5 seconds
when fabric
Or funnily enough I would expect to get "can you list this on curseforge"
As more of the big mods move over it will totally eclipse
We'll see!
I feel like Modrinth has become the place for new fresh ideas and Curseforge is for older mods & modpacks. Only issue with Modrinth (in my opinion) is the payouts being SO MUCH smaller than Curseforge's payouts. Would love to hear your opinion tho :D
I don't really have an opinion on that, i think it's because forge has been around for years and modrinth just got started
if u just in for the money stay on that shitty curse plattform then lol
you actually get 90% of the revenue of your mods. modrinth is just smaller so its not making as much
You get a higher % of the revenue (90%) but the ads on the site are smaller.
i mean they JUST started so maybe give them some time?
one of the big things that could hold back on mod packs making a move over is exactly how this all began. since FTB has several mods that are staples in the modpack brewing, namely FTB quests which provides the quest book as a form of guidance in any pack. If an equivalent was developed I could see that starting up bigger mod packs in the modrinth scene
Same!
I switched from Curseforge to Modrinth just yesterday and I already love it. It's smooth as hell.
It really is
@@Cygnus_MCwith the current virus fiascos I can see a big chance for this new site to rise
As it definitely hurt curse forges credibility
As someone who learned about modrinth just a few months ago, from my angle modrinth has started getting big from both the team behind sodium and iris almost completely leaving curseforge, and, I'm not too sure but I think I remember that during the exploit that happened before bleeding pipe, modrinth quickly shut down the malwear and was able to be back up not too long after while it took curseforge and other launchers far longer, not completely sure on that though
Yeah fracturizer. They didn't target modrinth as far as i know
Love Modrinth for the fact that I can finally download plugin to my minecraft server with wget or curl.
BASED
Not a big mods person as I mainly just work on projects, but when fabric came out I thought that was pretty huge. Being able to run shaders with high FPS while also having an insane view distance compared to what was capable prior felt like a game changer for immersive adventure maps. I'm not sure if all of the content mods benefit the same way, but since I like the fabric, iris, sodium, starlight combo it just seemed like the way to go. Coupled with us scripters getting new commands every update, the upcoming $ identifier and the ease of downloading these mods thru the rinth, minecraft has been evolving for sure.
It certainly has!
Advantages of Modrinth:
1. The site is more responsive
2. It doesn't default to viewing/searching modpacks
Good point
Curse: Oh you are searching for something named “better”?
Well i have the thing for you!
The poopookidd1267 mod!
Thats what you searched for!
i learnt about modrinth when mod devs started to move from curseforge to it and since then its my favorite. theme, simplicity everything is good imo
Its deffenetly a good alternative!
@@Cygnus_MC it's definitely and am i actually the only one or a tiny minority that is *highly* suspicious over modrinth? Something seems severely fishy about it. From both its founding and overall management. As far as I can see the developers/hired personnel for modrinth are the ones doing the heavy lifting and keeping this so extremely well made. I don't know man. This is either some intuition thing or a total miscalculation on my part. I feel strongly like as if this is one the few things that could just disappear very randomly or be bought by a another company. The thing with curseforge is that it is its own entity essentially. It's like cement, it just stays there and that's it. Similarly to the WW2 German cement flak tower, it's just not viable for it to cease to exists, it has a odd and conflicted past but when the sun someday may go haywire, it'll stand and even against a black hole.
I used Modrinth for 2 years, and it is better on almost every point, the only reason to continue using CurseForge is for old exclusive mods
They’re even developing their own launcher, which is really promising
Yep! Its very cool!
Nah it isn't better on almost everyway. What I do believe Modrinth is better in is searching and discovering new, less popular mods. However, Modrinth lacks a lot of stuff, like comments and a relations page, as well as having way less variety compared to Curseforge, especially considering most mods there are Fabric mods. As for the launcher, it is in Alpha now (I believe) and is fine as a Modrinth only launcher, but fails to replace Prism launcher or MultiMC.
@@agentstarr5062 Honestly seeing as comments on curseforge is literally always "can you port to x version !! :(" I think its a net bonus of it not being there.
@@agentstarr5062Not having comments is a plus w
Proper github pr is the way
It dropped into beta just a few days ago, it was in alpha for just a few months jeez they are fast
you are criminally underrated
Thanks man!
Haven’t watched the video, but I usually use curseforge for the easy client, and I feel some options, such as the modpack maker make it indespensable for my purposes. Modrinth looks great, though. Just want it to be a little more feature-complete.
Edit: did not realize modrinth is working on a launcher, will be switching asap.
Interesting, thanks!
AT Launcher or Prism are also very good options. Both support downloading mods from Modrinth too, and Fabric and Quilt mods.
From a perspective of a modder, I'll say that modrinth doesn't really lack anything curseforge had. It's even better! The only missing thing I can really see is the comments under projects. Besides that, modrinth overcomes curseforge in almost every aspect. I'll never use curseforge again.
Cool!
I preferred to switch to modrinth just because it was simple and easy to use, especially since they pay developers better and they have a more efficient and faster staff, for example, at the moment their servers have hard to hold, but they fixed the problem very quickly. Very good video, I hope you will manage to get more subscribers, you deserve them (sorry for my disgusting English, I had to use google translate)
No worries! Thanks for the comment!
Oh yea i remember their servers crashing that one time and they fixed it in like an hour or less
I have been using Curseforge and Modrinth together for a while
Awesome!
Modrinth is just so lovely to use, as a developer and as a user. I get like barely any revenue from it compared to cf, but it's still a platform I'll upload to for the time continued.
Thank you for mentioning KSP, i used to use curse for KSP mods back in the day 🙏
(more related to the topic, I really love something about modrinth's design. It feels so aesthetically pleasing, yet so clean and responsive at the same time. Rare these days, i'm moving my own mods across to there now as well lol)
I love ksp!
Went from curseforge only to mainly modrinth it's slick and generally more responsive
True!
i switched from curseforge to modrinth after curseforge changed they're UI to make it hard for you to just download a mod, they now almost make so that you have to use the icky curseforge launcher.
In my experience the launcher was always easier. But yeah it does suck
Modrinth doesn't make me wait 5 seconds before downloading each mod, im sold
my god I forgot about technic launcher until you mentioned it, I haven't thought about it in years
it ain't a tech mod-pack if it don't have 389 mods of random shite lmao
Exactly
I personally really like using Modrinth because it’s really easy to use and it shows the dependencies for a mod if it has any.
Cool!
curseforge used to do that until they removed it
Curse client and curseforge has been a staple for WoW addons for as long as I can remember, like 2009 or earlier. This story is identical to what happened with WoW addons - curse is bloated laggy and messy so people made their own clients like wowup. Awesome video as always
Thanks! Awesome comment and thanks for the info!
Another video I watched in the first 5 minutes of release
This is my other account btw
Good job!
I like modrinth over curseforge becuase it actually has datapacks, plug-ins and shaders all in one place and to add fuel to the fire modrinth actually has offline compatibility unlike curseforge which technically does not.
Thats actually pretty cool
I just started using Modrinth and I absulutely love it ! I am doing a small modded SMP with modrinth on fabric 1.20.1 and the new launcher really helped me developing the modpack due to the great live-log, better categories or just overall the smouther feeling. Really great video and i hope that we can see more good stuff from modrinth in the future! Sorry for my english, i am not a native speaker.Btw this is not a advertisement for my server just a feedback how it helped me a lot
i never used a launcher i always download the jar manually
Interesting!
Modrinth is definitely gonna take over. Hopefully they make an app like curseforge.
They did!
@@Cygnus_MCcan you import modpacks on there?
@@PixelatedPlayz1yes
I like Modrinth's web design over CurseForge. Don't know why.
Its more modern
The curse launcher is a painful mess I not only didn't use but UNINSTALLED like a year ago in their infinite wisdom they default keybinded ALT+Tab (switching windows a COMMON tool) to open their [$%&!]ing menu which not only blacks out the game but disables keybinds making me just generally annoyed I don't know much about overwolf but I hate it for that alone.
Yeah i dont understand that too
If modrinth payouts would be higher it would be worth switching over all your projects to it. But right now redirect everything to curseforge if you're looking to do this stuff a little fulltime.
Fair enough!
This is interesting, i like your style
Thanks!
Modrinth is my main since a while now
Awesome
Nice video as always
Thanks!
I am more used to curseforges layout. So probably won't switch unless it can prove to me its better in someway.
Fair point!
As both a creator and consumer I use modrinth
Same
I only moved to Modrinth because Sodium, and a few other mods I use, left CurseForge and went to Modrinth. And I will say that I enjoy Modrinth far more than CurseForge.
I would say that when I go to modrinth even though they have a smaller mod selection the experience is much better. And they mainly have fabric mods which is why I use it
Awesome!
Fabric really is “i dont have the fps to deal with this crap” kind of deal
@@memor22 yea it's a much lighter mod loader than forge
I didn't play Minecraft for years until I found out you can install the Curse launcher without Overwolf
Great video!
Great comment
I get all my mods from technic and modrith, havent used curseforge since sodium and others moved away my launcher is prism, idk why i just wanted it and the logo is cool
Interesting
Dude my friends think it's stupid that I use prism I don't know why
@@NatetheNintendofan ITS JUST BETTER
Polymc with Modrinth compat is truly a game changer
Yessir!
technic launcher be rulin yeah
Based
mod drama is so fun
Forge -> Neoforge
Fabric -> Quilt
Eh im not a drama person. However it is cool how the drama pushes innovation
What music do you generally use in your videos, especially the last song in the outro.
I use non copyrighted music from Fraction!
I remember back when Curse forge was the emerging new launcher while we used FTBLauncher, ATLauncher, and TechnicLauncher
I feel old
2:55 It spies on people to make even more money, and thats enough reason for me to condemn it, and it should be for you aswell.
I personally dont have proof of that, but i do want to say i also really hate Overwolf
@@Cygnus_MC Its in their EULA that they collect information about the user like what operating system you have, what you have installed, ip addresses, the whole works.
For once i actually read the EULA of something
They dont even bother claiming its anonymous either
Edit: Also, i really hate overwolf. Its god awful, even without the privacy violations. Thank god for polyMC so i can still play those modpacks
@@nemtudom5074Yeah but what could they do with that?
@@nemtudom5074 i use MultiMC
@@PixelatedPlayz1 Sell it, make money off of you.
Its called data mining because you're generating money from nothing, in a mine.
Yes, i know that the ore in the mine is not 'nothing', but the point is that it doesnt have a value until its extracted.
Also, anyone can see that data as long as they pay for it. I literally googled 'buy data' and the third hit is a databroker site where you can buy data like this thats collected by all these ad services. Google, microsoft, you name it. The data is spread between all these sites and companies that deal in data.
Now consider that once something is on the internet, you cant remove it from there. That raises a lot of issues because these sites are tracking everyone, the data ends up on the internet, and its going to stay on the internet.
You use chrome (probably), google knows which sites you visit. You googled some weird prn? They know, and if one company knows, so will the rest. That may be fine for today when its only money on the line, but what happens in 10-20 years when a western country elects laws that encroach on freedom and human rights? The data is available for everyone to buy, and the evil people will have access to it, and they'll know exactly whats up with everyone.
Maybe that regimes wants to eradicate furries, so they bought a bunch of data, and 'dispose of' everyone who has googled furry related things more than a couple times.
Or a real scenario. In the US Roe v Wade was overturned. In some states abortions are illegal now. Guess which company knows who googled 'abortion in other US states'. *All of them.*
The only reason they arent being prosecuted en-masse is because the old fossils running the country dont have a clue how anything works on the internet.
Privacy is not a joke. If you think you have nothing to hide, you will once the government changes and suddenly your past actions that every company knows about; are considered illegal.
Data is forever, the best time to stop this is yesterday. The second best time is right now.
I could go on for days with so much more to say. *This is a big deal*
been in love with modrinth since I first found out about them, been using their app/launcher and its great. cant wait for when its fully finished and released, the beta version is really good right now but a little unstable and freezes/crashes on me from time to time right now
Understandable
Nice video!
Nice comment!
Another cool minecraft video!
Another cool comment
My favorite launcher (GD Launcher) landed themselves into a partnership with Curseforge. Needless to say, I'm backing Modrinth hard.
i feel old
Same
I just like modrinth more than curseforge
especially the user experience is just so better
Fair enough!
im honestly so happy modrinth is here its so much nicer to use
Their ux is very sleek indeed
best feature that i can use in Modrith that is missing in curseforge is that i can filter by license. best way to find out which mods i'm free to contribute to and freely share around someday and which mods i should avoid.
Thats a cool feature indeed!
What i need from modrith is a launcher, the same as curseforge has.
manage, delete, update, disble, add mods. Just that.
They recently released that
@@Cygnus_MC dude it was 2 weeks since i tried it, aaaaaaaaa.
ill check it out, thx
my huge issue with modrinth is how hellish it is to download dependencies without a link to said dependencies
Honestly. Thats valid! Ill pass that on
@@Cygnus_MCokay, maybee a Feature they could integrate: they could Auto scan the Mod .jars for dependencies, and then Link to them or add an Option do Auto Download them additionally
ATLauncher when adding mods though them(you can get mods that are hosted on both CF and modrinth) will let you know if there’s a dependency and from there you can download mod and dependency in two clicks. It’s been my go-to launcher for a few years now.
i think, modrinth is the best(easy to use, full+ cool mods)
It does have a cool design
I hope you're ok after that anvil
My piano is taking a walk on the ceiling
Overwolf buying CF was actually the best thing that could have happend to Curseforge.
Why? They are actually addressing issues redoing backend and all that stuff.
Twitch was known to do the WORST JOB EVER and i don't envy Overwolf for having to deal with that.
And even if some changes are not liked, 90% of the changes are positive in their nature.
Also they increased Payouts by up to a factor of 10 to every mod receiving revenue upon takeover.
So instead of making for example 40 cents a day for thousands of downloads a day people now receive 4 dollar a day for that. (Example numbers).
That is something Modrinth at the moment can not compete with really.
Also until like very recently Modrinth wasn't even an option for me mainly because:
Their TOS basically gave them rights to make clones of mods and publish them as they wish. Basically the lithium indecent on CF but done my modrinth itself.
Luckily this week this was fixed, they addressed that in the TOS and now modrinth is actually usable in terms of licensing.
I personally like both UX from CF/Modrinth, though CF is still better, but Modrinth with their most recent patch has made a long way to improve things.
The modders side is still bad... Almost unbearably especially if you want statistics.
But the points where its important got a ton of things.
I personally think once CF finishes their new UI Modrinth gets fire under their asses.
While if Modrinth finishes their UI, improves the ad situation and a few other things, CF will have a ton of fire under their asses.
In general i think competition is great, Modrinth does a great job providing competition, though i still prefer curseforge as a moddev/user by a long shot.
Great to see you as always Speiger, but yes, i have heared this vieuwpoint too, and its great to hear the other side of the coin! I personally dont really want one to beat the other, i just want innovation
@@Cygnus_MC also congrats on providing on of the best title/images so far that doesn't feel like clickbait at all (I mean that legit!)
@@Speiger thanks! Im trying to step away from that now my audience is a big bigger!
Mothrint
Cool!
I might me wrong but is there a modrinth app or no
There is
I tried modrinth... due to pages not updating and having to see the header page EVERYTIME the page DO update, made me back off for the moment.
Just waiting for these matters to be adressed tough, monopoly never do any good to anyone...
It should be better nowadays, but yes competition is always good
In tell we get way more forge mods on modrinth i'll be sticking to curseforge
Curse forge is practically already obsolete. It's simply so clunky, people only use it for nostalgia
Seems to be a big opinion
Does forge shows if a mod is client or server side ? Or a a mod's dependencies ?
We use it for fun mods that don't exist on modrinth.
@@Mabra51 they do link dependencies, as for client or server side, you generally alredy know that answer from reading the description.
Modrinth is amazing since it has a simple interface that’s easy and efficient, however I feel like the Forge and Fabric communities will split platforms because of this
Hmm fair point. However i dont think that's Modrinths goal
Hey, if there ever is a video about Quilt, something everyone should know is that it supports Fabric mods, as it is a fork of Fabric. According to the Quilt team, this may change in the future. But for now even Create mod runs on Quilt! I can say it does run faster too.
And with things like the Iris drama, the "community made/controlled" stuff, like Modrinth, seem much better. I may have bias toward anything FOSS.
Hell, I'm running Firefox on Linux Mint and Minecraft trough ATLauncher (Prism Launcher is a good option too, for its simpler UI).
I do intent on making a Quilt vid! And im also on Linux:3
I would rather use fabric for mod but the thing is not enough mods reported yet yeah I'd rather use Moderith download them too but not enough of the mods are on their only some of them are I just wish everyone would jump ship to moderith
I would just wish there was a mod loader that made it so you could download mods in game just like tmodloader
Here before CygnusMC gets popular :)
Apreciated bud :3
Curseforge's biggest competitor is their lack security apparently... how do you get hacked Twice in 3 months time
Well it wasnt them who got hacked. Someone uploaded a faulty jar
I don’t think either one will ever be “defeated”. Forge has been around for so long that it would be improbable for Modrinth to completely consume. Also Forge has a large backlog of mods from people who no longer update them, and from much older versions like 1.12. I also have a hard time finding the huge difference between them that others are talking about (from the downloaders pov). I just use them to download mods though, and don’t use the launcher, so idk.
They dont need to defeat echother, coexisting is great
Well it doesn’t need to defeat anyone, cola and pepsi aren’t really defeating each other are they? They are just competition, and competition makes the companies to make better, greater and easier things
Its just a great motivational tool for BOTH of the teams
Just converted to Modrinth! to be honest, I really miss curseforge, but curseforge is a bit sketch and also I always love the idea of saying fuck you to the big corporate giants. Modrinth definitely has a better design tho lets be honest
I just got back into minecraft after like more than 6 years (?) of not playing this game, and i kinda shocked at how tons of open source projects keeps the game "playable". I don't even use curseforge anymore because i hate their site UI, UX, and also their closed source nature. Really grateful that modrinth is become the next big thing.
Same!
ooo thx
Ur welcome
I tried to use Modrith, but it lacks in every way, except working and starting speed, and UI.
i still don't know how it became even remotely popular, with this liitle amount of movement over the years.
Thanks for the video tho :)
i love modrinths design and ui stuff its just so easy compared to curseforge imo
Yep?
!*
I wish they added a feature to sign in with microsoft account of minecraft instead of buying the game
What is the best and safest way to get mods for minecraft?
Download them from the Github page.
I'll be honest, when I first stomped onto Modrinth (back before CF even had public beta website) it instantly got me under impression sole for its filters alone. Tho it hadn't too much mods to choose from, so sticking to CF was the best option back then.
But as of now, Modrinth has a much bigger catalogue of mods, up to the point if you wanna grab something for latest version of the game you most likely going to find all of it here (at least if you're using Fabric, can't say anything about amount of Forge mods here).
P.S. Surprised you didn't cover incident with Sodium and Iris devs regarding their mods on Curseforge, since it gave a huge boost in popularity to Modrinth. Was it too much drama in your opinion or you just didn't know?
Interesting! And for the second part, i really dont want to cover the dramatic part of the modding scene too much. Its a Pandora's box
Hello! Nice video!😊
Hey, thanks!
3:41 *which we are not getting into*
Only a matter of time... only a matter of time
Nooooo
Also always nice to see you
Wait, what happened with Fabric? Is it something bigger than what created Quilt?
@@hoovysimulator2518 Fabric is the origin of quilt, which is a major story lol
@@RhythmWeHear I meant the drama that caused few Fabric developers to create Quilt.
I was wondering if there was even more to it. Though I guess not, that drama just isn't something people wanna talk about for a good reason.
Modrinth has a long way to go before getting even close to curseforge but if things keep going the way they are, we might see curseforge and modrinth become equals in an unknown amount of time
pebble
PEBBLE!
i think you got more than a headache
My train is swimming in the piano
honestly, modrinth just needs more filters and filter removal(like steam)
I would love to switch to modrinth but sadly, all of my favorite mods are on curseforge
What was the issue with fabric? Was it just authors having to port over their existing mods?
In an upcoming video i interviewed a dev addressing the issues. One of em was that fabric doesnt have all the features in place that forge has
Remember back in the days where we delete META INF in order to the game to not crash xD
Also remembered installing my first mods, risugami's modloader and sprite mod. xD
Uhho
Pebble
Pebble!
0:13 How are Forge and CF affiliated? 😅
No, they just have the name in common is what i meant
@@Cygnus_MC Ahh, got it ^^
i honestly prefair modrinth bc of its layout and design
Fair!
Modrinth is nice but Curseforge is way bigger.
True
I don't really want the curseforge's monopoly to end. I choosed it because it's the easiest way to mod the game without going into files. I tried AT launcher, but... It's ui is about shit. Imagine having forge vs fabric competition, but on launchers
Its not launchers, its Repositories, competition is always good!
Why is overwolf hated?
There are some allogations of it beeing spyware
It's adware.
Modrinth is the goat
I use modrinth. Cleaner. Easier. Only complaint is the lack of mods, but they'll come in time
overwolf IS as bad people think shitty bloatware
Im planning to dive deeper in that!
It's so shit Malwarebytes antivirus marks it as a malware/PUP
@@Lusc1nt it deserves it
love you daddy cygnus
Thanks son
I have no idea why people hated Overwolf, can someone explain why? The video made it sound like it was worse than Ebola in terms of community feedback or something lol
It has some Properties that make people dislike them
I hate Overwolf for their software. You're required to use it for a couple tools, including curseforge stuff and it just sucks.