As an actual autistic person, first I went with Grey Knights (that's going to be my first army), but among the "regular" asartes, I was IMMEDIATELY drawn to the Imperial Fists!!!
The Ravenguard (birb bois) are actually kind towards civilians like the salamanders, but are just more pragmatic about it. For example they are known for dropping off supplies to refugees without anyone ever seeing them.
Horus didn't turn traitor because he loved someone, he turned because he was manipulated by the Chaos Gods. Horus was stabbed with a Kinebrach Anathame, which was a sword imbued with power from Chaos, he slipped into a coma and was brought to a Temple on the planet Davin, the Chaos god's pretty much ripped his soul out of his body and showed him the future, the modern 41st Millennium of the Imperium, where its people worshipped The Emperor as a god, he was also shown that there were statues of some of his brothers, but not one of him and the ones who would eventually go on to join Chaos. With these visions, Horus would come to the conclusion that The Emperor, who at this point and unknown to any of the Primarchs was back on Terra working on his Webway Project, was instead planning on becoming a god. With all of this in mind he began plans to rebel against the Imperium and overthrow his father, utterly unaware to the fact that his actions would go on to create the future he intended to stop.
Yes it really gives a deeper and more tragic spin to the whole thing, a poetic self-fulfilling prophecy twist as Bricky said he was focusing on being funny and less on being informative, but I plan to learn more from Weshammer too and the audiobooks
A lot of Space Marines love doing some form of art when not fighting. Blood Angels love classic art like poetry, sculpting, and painting. Ultramarines love reading. Salamanders love upgrading and embellishing their armor. Iron Fists love engineering buildings. Iron Hands love working on vehicles. Space Wolves love singing, if drinking is included. Basically all Legions and Chapters will have hobbies when not fighting.
To add to this the Blood Angels don't just do it to pass the time, it genuinely helps them keep the Red Thirst and Black Rage at bay because it soothes them emotionally and psychologically, its a control tool for them, helps them maintain control over their minds and bodies
Pre-Lion awakening: The Fallen Post-Lion awakening: The Risen After Lion El'Jonson woke up, he forgave and asked for forgiveness for what happened at Caliban. He is now gathering the Fallen that are out surviving in the half of the galaxy on his side of the rift, which is on the opposite side that the imperium is at and renaming them as The Risen as they are now paying for their failures and sins of the past. After much crusading and bringing more planets under his control, the blood angles met up with him and informed him that his brother Roboute is still alive and is ruling the Empire of Man on the other side of the rift. One of the biggest dreads of The Lion was that he would have to fight against a rotten, misbegotten imperium to reunite mankind by himself. Now he knows that his brother took control of the imperium on the other side of the rift, so now the two halves can join back up and not have a civil war. Now he just has to reunite with his legion and bring the loyalists and The Risen together again.
There are 18 primarchs... unless you count the two lost primarchs.... or the second primarch the alpha legion has... or the prototype primarch under the imperial palace... or the primarch of the thunder warriors... or the captain of the custodes or Caldor Drago of the Grey Knights... or that one time there was an entire war against "the false primarch"... oh and also the definitely not primarch of the primaris marines.
The ravenguard are actually somewhat nice at times. An imperial guard psyker bonded with a ravenguard librarian (space marine psyker) over tarot. The imp guard psyker was trying to bring intel to a commander and the other soldiers were blocking him and treating him like crap, the librarian lent him his power to silence the bullies and get him where he needed to go
Technically Horus also got badly wounded, his sons despite to heal him got tricked into using a demonic ritual. This let chaos into his mind. Chaos showed him a bad possible future and tricked horus into thinking that was the Emperor's plan.
@@TorineesanEven worse was the Chaos gods showed him the exact future that would happen if he did revolt against the Emperor. So he directly caused the future that he originally was looking to prevent
"Why must he be snake?!" Uh, long forked tongue, hemipenes, muscular tail... Oh, and he has 4 arms now. Not strictly a snake thing, but it is good to remember that detail if you're into certain positions.
@@Torineesan He's a Daemon-Primarch of Slaanesh so I feel the reasons should be rather self-evident once you realize what becoming a snake entails. As for why snakes specifically and not, say, goats, crabs, spiders or any other animals that Slaanesh has a weird kink for? Apparently Fulgrim's past experiences with a race of snake people called the Laer convinced him that their form was the most ideal and the closest thing to his idea of 'Perfection'. So Fulgrim thinks being a snake is hot.
Betrayer is the book that shows it best, you practically see how they went from being the honourable War Hounds to the traitor World Eaters and you see Kharn's humanity above all else, also the relationship between Angron and Lotara Sarin, he genuinely respected her for taking no shit from any one of the World Eaters, even Angron himself, she called out his mistakes to his face with zero fear of being struck down and he liked her cause of that, its a trait you see a lot in the Heresy series, a lot of Astartes and even Primarchs actually really respect normal humans who don't fear them because it lets them keep a part of their humanity despite being superhuman warriors
The prototype Primarch doesn't have a Legion, so he isn't counted when talking about Legions. It was called The Angel, but had other nicknames like The Sleeper or the Angel of Destruction. It's really old lore though, last seen the Inquisition got the coffin it was sleeping in. Also there is a prototype Space Marine called Leetu (aka LE 2) who doesn't have a Primarch, he was made from the Emperor's dna and a perpetual woman named Erda... which the Primarchs are too, so kinda making him like a weaker younger brother. This character is much newer, and it was he who convinced everyone that the Emperor wanted to be put on the golden throne after his mortal injury. He was last seen after that awaiting Interrogation and using tarot cards to Devine what the Emperor wanted. As he was made from the dna of the Emperor and Erda, it's very possible he's still alive if he wasn't killed. The fun thing about the character was he was a passive psyker, so he could turn it off or on. Basically when off other psykers couldn't sense him or demons try to take over him (which all other psykers are subject to 24/7 because they can't turn it off).
As to Fulgrum, your prince with the purple armor and white hair, technically his soul got kicked out of his body when he went full demon. His soul ended up in a new clone body, which is loyal to the Imperium and humanity. Now that body is trapped in a status field (a place frozen in time). However potentially he could return and fight his evil demon possessed body.
Wait, I didn't know about the soul bit! I thought Clonegrim was a xlone with his memories, body and mentaliry before falling, not that he had the actual soul. From what I know, the demkn sword took, made him witness his own body commit atrocities, and then the actual mind broken Fulgrim decided to double down on the degeneracy.
At this point you probably have a bunch of questions like "How did the Emperor of Mankind lose control so badly? Why did half his sons turn against him? What happened to the 2nd and 11th?" Well if you want most of thoss questions answered, you should totally check out "The Mistakes of The Emperor" videos by Old Man Lore. It not only goes into what kind of man the Emperor is, it also talks about his sons and the context for the how and why. Very underrated.
You know...if Horus would've spent so much time with Vulkan and the Khan, even Chaos wouldn't have been able to tempt the guy. Also, Dante is the current oldest Space Marine who IS in Active Duty. But not THE oldest. In terms of birth date, the oldest would be most of the Primaris Marines since they were in stasis for 10,000 years. That is why even though the Primaris upgrade is bigger and better than a normal Astartes, they lack the skill and experience of their original counterparts. Unless an Astartes took the Primaris program. And to note, milady, there have been a lot of retcons, and there are even discussions that Horus could come back. I think GW is planning for redemption arcs of some Primarchs. Don't know about Fulgrim, through since he basically has a perfect clone of himself.
Redemption arc would be an interesting idea, although it would upset the balance no? In animes a redemption arc is common but mainly because the BBEG is always replaced by an even "Bigger and Badder Guy"
As to the Alpha Legion... theyve done things that turned out to be very counterproductive to Chaos but then the following day did things very beneficial to Chaos. So both the Imperium and Chaos can't really trust them. As examples the Alpha Legion has launched lots of minor attacks on worlds, so the Imperium sends reinforcements, these reinforcements arrive but find the Alpha Legion gone, so they improve the defenses of the world. Then as theyre finishing up, other Chaos forces attack a world they thought was less fortified and the Imperium wins. So was the Alpha Legion secretly warning the Imperium? When other times they have destroyed whole worlds... Alpharius and Omegon heard an alien prophecy where basically if the Imperium wins, then Chaos would infect them and Chaos won. Then they saw a second prophecy where if Horus won, humanity would go extinct but Chaos would die. They didn't like either option... so they basically are trying to get a coin flip to land on its side. Effectively theyre trying to sabotage both sides until they can find a better future. Now it's possible one of their Primarchs went traitor but the other was loyal too. So half the Alpha Legion are traitors but the other half are loyalists... and no one in the Alpha Legion knows which of their brothers are traitors or loyalists. So they all put on super elaborate plots to fool the rest of their bodies into both destroying the Imperium and saving it simultaneously. With the plan of secretly leaning their preferred way. The Emperor himself has occasionally given visions to his loyalists to give stuff to the Alpha Legion. So apparently the Emperor can tell who is who, or at least can see the future enough to weigh if this helping while backstabbing is more beneficial than it hurts. Also the Alpha Legion doesn't only use Space Marines, they let regular humans join then too... because well, a 7 foot tall Space Marine always being a spy would stick out. So theyre absolutely willing to let regular people be their eyes and ears and let them call themselves Alpha Legion too. They call these humans operatives. So technically women could join a Legion, heck, one is the 2nd in command for an Alpha Legion Space Marine named Soloman Akkura. Her name is Tulva Dyne. Now most other Alpha Legion see her as a pet, but she is a psyker who could kill tons of them.
@@Torineesan Well, both could be dead, or neither could be dead. In theory Rogal Dorn killed Alpharius and Roboute Guilliman killed Omegon... who knows with these two. Plenty of people think Omegon. or Alpharius pretending to be Omegon, is still around. A lot of fans think he's pretending to be a Dark Angel known as Cypher. That stated their sons could recuit you as one of their operatives, so you'd kinda be an unofficial Alpha Legion. But all Space Marines are chemically castrated, so they have no sex drive at all. There's one Space Wolf who has implied he still has a sex drive but he's a big boaster so a lot of fans are skeptical about this. The Emperor was very pro humanity, it's kinda implied he didn't want any transhumans breeding with and corrupting humanities pure DNA. Transhuman means genetically modified in sci-fi, not swapping genders btw. Basically he thought humanity was on the path to becoming like him one day and he didn't want anything corrupting that. Now other Marines do hire humans as surffs. They crew their ships or guard their bases when they go off-world. As a female your best bet would be a starship crew, as they do often limit the guards to males as they hunt for potential recruits among their human soldiers who guard places
@@jonathanryan9946 I was told I would qualify as an Abhuman, so that might be helpful and I wouldn't want to be a proper Space Marine I have to learn more about the Sisters of Battle to decide on them
@@Torineesan You'd have to hide the abhuman part from the Sisters of Battle... they, uh, don't treat abhumans well. They typically fear mutations are a sing of Chaos corruption and use flamethrowers on abhumans. If not in combat, they might just build a pyre and tie you to it, then toss in a match. Hell, the Sisters of done that to other Sisters who mess up. Further most Sisters, like 99.98% of them come from families with long service records serving in the Imperium or nobility. The few regular women who joined their ranks had to do insane things as young girls to join them. Like walking a pilgrimage while stopping a candle from burning out in the wind. Them shielding it from blowing out infant of their church for 3 days as she nearly died of dehydration and lack of sleep. Only as she was nearly dying did one of the Sisters break ranks and take her as her personal trainee. The Sisters are HARD CORE. You have to be pure of body and with an unbreakable will for them to accept anyone not from long lineages of the Imperium. That's partially because of pride in their bloodlines and partially because they track how pure families bloodlines are free of mutations. I definitely get the appeal though, if I was female, they be who'd I'd want to join too. They're some of the most badass people in any franchise, like ever. They make metal look tame.
Misquoted I might add. I swear half of 40k problems can be resolved if they take times to explain stuff, instead of going "Ugh you can never understand me, now we must commence jousting.
@@Torineesan Yeah lore-wise it's hypothesized they did some big no-nos and Big E purged them from everyone's mind (This was before Horus betrayed). The only reason the remaining half that betrayed still exist was because Big E was wounded and couldn't erase them from history again like before. Meta-wise, it's so people can be more comfortable when home-brewing their own legion/chapters, since you can wiggle around that missing chapters, and had an excuse as to why you're painting green Ultramarines instead of blue.
Lion El Jonson, Primarch of the 1st Legion the Dark Angels, tried to lure out the traitors who were attacking Earth... by attacking and destroying their homeworlds in return. This caused some of them to leave attacking Earth and rush back to defend their world... where Lion then killed them and then their world. This allowed two of his brothers and their loyal fleets to get past the traitors blockade of Earth. Unfortunately when Lion returned to his own homeworld he found some of his sons went traitor and attacked him. When Lion attacked them back the loyal Space Marines on the planet were told by the Traitor Space Marines, that Lion went traitor. So Unfortunately a few traitors caused tons of loyal Marines to fight the other loyal Marines in the confusion. These tricked Marines and traitors were called the FALLEN, that the loyal Dark Angels were trying to erase from history. Now since this video, Lion El Jonson returned too like Roboute Guilliman of the Ultramarines. He has stopped his sons from killing the tricked loyal Marines and dubbed them RISEN. Most of these are Marines from the Horus Herecy era of 30k which due to the warp got sent through time into the future 40k setting. Lion is still hunting down the traitors though. So far Lion and Guilliman haven't met again yet, Lion was told Guilliman was back too but Guilliman doesn't know Lion is back yet as he's on the other side of the galaxy currently.
@@Torineesan It's in the novel The Lion: Son of the Forest. By Mike Brooks. There's also the table top campaign books (think part novel and part guide to playing the tabletop) Called Arks of Omen that contain stories set right after Son of the Forest.
Advice for a future react 'If the Emperor had a text to speech device' It is a comedy/parody fan series set in 40k. Sadly it's on permanent hiatus due to games workshop being greedy, but what was made is still available to watch on youtube.
The Prototype Primarch is The Angel of Destruction, AKA The Angel or The Sleeper. If you thought the Emperor saw the Primarchs as tools, wait until you see the condition of this one. He made him intelligent to calculate the best way to destroy Chaos. Unfortunately, it came to the conclusion that the best way is to cause genocide. The Angel was also too loyal to Emps and ridiculously vengeful, where he once turned a whole city on Terra to ash because he didn't believe they loved Him enough. So The Emperor locked him away where it still lives under the Imperial Palace, sealed in a coffin.
@@Torineesan Sorta. Imo it's more like a Frankenstein story, where he created a being to use as a tool, ensured he was 100% loyal and vehemently vengeful against Chaos, and then act surprised when it went too far and out of control. Creating the Primarchs that we know now instead of ones like The Angel, is like how The Emperor went from Thunder Warriors to Space Marines.
@@Torineesan Fulgrim by Graham McNeill, it goes from early history, up to opening salvos of the Heresy. Also The Reflection Crack'd also by Graham McNeill goes a bit more about corruption and set sometime after the ending of Fulgrim, can be found in The Primarchs anthology.
There are Humans, then Firstborns (OG Space Marines), then Primaris (new ones), then Grey Knights (Special anti-demons Space Marines), then Adeptus Custodes, then Primarchs, and the Emperor.
So if we allow warp shenanigans technically Zabriel is the oldest living space marine. But if not I think it's Dante. If we count dreadnoughts then that'll add like 5 more characters to the list.
@@Torineesan time is funky there, and chaos marines tend to be mutated at least to the point their age is irrelevant. plenty of them have probably died multiple times as well, but the chaos gods just bring their toy soldiers back to have them play again.
@@Torineesan Some people like Zabriel got lost in the warp pre-heresy or during the heresy, and then get spewed out during the M40-41, so it mightve felt like a few weeks for Zabriel and co while it was closer to 10 millenia outside the warp. The warp is wack.
black templars for live the black templars are a sub chapter of the imperial fists and they more melee offences and the most feared cause they love close combat
I read some stories about the alpha legion and couldnt stop laughing. Their misinformation campaign is so extreme that it confused their enemies, allies and even themselves. They are like that cat who starts a domino cat mass panic and getting just as confused as the other cats.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Salamanders are best bois. Horus fell for a lot of reasons. The seed was initially sown because he felt slighted that the Emperor left him in charge without any real explanation, and wouldn't even tell Horus what he was doing. He knew it was important; it was necessarily more important the Great Crusade. But he felt betrayed that the Emperor didn't trust him enough with the secret. However, he was still loyal. What really caused him to fall was manipulation. The Word Bearers had already fallen to Chaos, and one of them attacked Horus with a weapon that was keyed to be a kind of nemesis for a particular target. Whatever the target was, the weapon would take on whatever properties were required to kill them (the weapon was actually itself a chaos artifact, its keepers just didn't know that). That same traitor then tricked Horus' officers into taking him to a nearby "lodge" to heal him. But the lodge was actually a cult of chaos. That's where Horus was corrupted. He was shown visions of the Imperium as it would eventually become; a twisted, broken, theocratic, fascist dystopia. And was convinced he had to stop the Great Crusade and overthrow the Emperor. Ironically, it was Horus' own rebellion that caused these visions to come true. Most of the other Primarchs who turned didn't have such high and mighty reasons for doing so, though.
He didn't happy with the fact that everything will be handle by the high lords after the crusade he found out the truth about the thunder warriors, and affraid the same fate will happen to the Astartes And he got trick to see the vision big E become god He never like the Chaos gods, he just use them, as soon as he cripple Big E, he cut them off, and got deleted because of it Really a tragic guy And also, Angron
I can't wait to finish the Horus Heresy books and learn about this in detail, it sounds very tragic and shows the influence of the Chaos forces, amazing world-building
Your honor, my client knows nothing of The Fallen. Just look at her. She just a little gal and her head is completely empty. Anyways, Night Lords are my absolute favorite faction in 40K. From their design to their primarch and other characters. They don't necessary suck, especially since a lot of their warriors are veterans from The Heresy times. It's that their primarch is dead, they got beaten to the ground and their legion is split into tiny little warbands that can't do much on their own. There is a new character trying to get them all together though. They also have some of the best books written about them.
@@Torineesan Of course. Konrad Curze: The Night Haunter That one is about the primarch. Soul Hunter, Blood Reaver and Void Stalker A trilogy set after Horus Heresy, focusing on one of Night Lords warbands. You can get the whole trilogy as Night Lords: The Omnibus.
The "proto-primarch" chat was talking about firstly, isnt even a primarch, merely a different created being by the emperor, and is barely even canon in the first place. not worth trying to connect to Astartes stuff. Also canonically Sanguinius was so hot that every single blood angel comes out also hot. Doesnt matter if the kid that turned into the space marine was completely deformed, malnourished, hideous, whatever, they turn that uggo into a blood angel and they come out looking like Chris Hemsworth lmaoo
"In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war. The Emperor of Mankind wages a constant battle to protect humanity from the horrors of space. On the fringes of the Imperium, alien races lurk and plot, and chaos demons leak into our reality from the torment of the warp." In a nutshell, you are witnessing my journey to become a Space Bunny Marine
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WELCOME TO WARHAMMER 40K
...*sees adorable hopper vtuber*
*Subscribes*
... FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
Excellent! The Emperor Provides! o7
Imperial Fists: Weaponized autism.
Iron Warriors: Autismized weaponism.
Both are special in their own way
As an actual autistic person, first I went with Grey Knights (that's going to be my first army), but among the "regular" asartes, I was IMMEDIATELY drawn to the Imperial Fists!!!
Yes
The Ravenguard (birb bois) are actually kind towards civilians like the salamanders, but are just more pragmatic about it.
For example they are known for dropping off supplies to refugees without anyone ever seeing them.
Then maybe I can play them in Space Marine 2, that would be cool, make my own variant of them
Ahhhh yes, the return of the Bricked One…
He just knows how to talk about Warhammer 40k
He is the chosen one @@Torineesan
Horus didn't turn traitor because he loved someone, he turned because he was manipulated by the Chaos Gods.
Horus was stabbed with a Kinebrach Anathame, which was a sword imbued with power from Chaos, he slipped into a coma and was brought to a Temple on the planet Davin, the Chaos god's pretty much ripped his soul out of his body and showed him the future, the modern 41st Millennium of the Imperium, where its people worshipped The Emperor as a god, he was also shown that there were statues of some of his brothers, but not one of him and the ones who would eventually go on to join Chaos.
With these visions, Horus would come to the conclusion that The Emperor, who at this point and unknown to any of the Primarchs was back on Terra working on his Webway Project, was instead planning on becoming a god. With all of this in mind he began plans to rebel against the Imperium and overthrow his father, utterly unaware to the fact that his actions would go on to create the future he intended to stop.
Yes it really gives a deeper and more tragic spin to the whole thing, a poetic self-fulfilling prophecy twist as Bricky said he was focusing on being funny and less on being informative, but I plan to learn more from Weshammer too and the audiobooks
A lot of Space Marines love doing some form of art when not fighting. Blood Angels love classic art like poetry, sculpting, and painting. Ultramarines love reading. Salamanders love upgrading and embellishing their armor. Iron Fists love engineering buildings. Iron Hands love working on vehicles.
Space Wolves love singing, if drinking is included.
Basically all Legions and Chapters will have hobbies when not fighting.
The Iron Fists are my favourite legion.
That's super cool! It makes their character designs much more deeper
To add to this the Blood Angels don't just do it to pass the time, it genuinely helps them keep the Red Thirst and Black Rage at bay because it soothes them emotionally and psychologically, its a control tool for them, helps them maintain control over their minds and bodies
iron warrior play table top game
My favorite chapter so far is the black dragons. I wish there was more of them. I wonder what their hobby would be.
Pre-Lion awakening: The Fallen
Post-Lion awakening: The Risen
After Lion El'Jonson woke up, he forgave and asked for forgiveness for what happened at Caliban. He is now gathering the Fallen that are out surviving in the half of the galaxy on his side of the rift, which is on the opposite side that the imperium is at and renaming them as The Risen as they are now paying for their failures and sins of the past. After much crusading and bringing more planets under his control, the blood angles met up with him and informed him that his brother Roboute is still alive and is ruling the Empire of Man on the other side of the rift. One of the biggest dreads of The Lion was that he would have to fight against a rotten, misbegotten imperium to reunite mankind by himself. Now he knows that his brother took control of the imperium on the other side of the rift, so now the two halves can join back up and not have a civil war. Now he just has to reunite with his legion and bring the loyalists and The Risen together again.
That would be cool to see it and then added to Space Marine 2 or another new game
It's insane to think this is the new Lion, considering 30k Lion can and will threatens murder if he doesn't get things his way.
There are 18 primarchs... unless you count the two lost primarchs.... or the second primarch the alpha legion has... or the prototype primarch under the imperial palace... or the primarch of the thunder warriors... or the captain of the custodes or Caldor Drago of the Grey Knights... or that one time there was an entire war against "the false primarch"... oh and also the definitely not primarch of the primaris marines.
Of course... why would we want to complicate things more 18, take it or leave it
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
... And now I know why I was told that a few times by my chat already
you're not Alpharius. I am
@@saltifate That's very Alpharius of you
Greetings Alpharius, I am also Alpharius
My headcanon is that the Alpha Legion's goals are so secret that even its members don't know if they are Loyalists or Heretics.
...Some are Loyalists, some are Heretics, only for the real Alpharius to operate on a whole different level playing chess
Actually, Iron Hands misunderstood a saying by Vulcan: "Flesh is weak, but deeds endure."
oof, what a little mistake can cause...
The ravenguard are actually somewhat nice at times. An imperial guard psyker bonded with a ravenguard librarian (space marine psyker) over tarot. The imp guard psyker was trying to bring intel to a commander and the other soldiers were blocking him and treating him like crap, the librarian lent him his power to silence the bullies and get him where he needed to go
That's pretty cool, thank you for sharing that changes my perspective on them ^^
@@Torineesan glad to be of use!
Torinee: Fulgrim I love your hair, what your routine
Fulgrim: thank you, it’s genetic and unattainable.
The Emperor provides!... but not hair...
@@Torineesan considering how many of the primarch are bald, that is completely accurate.
@@jeremygeller9145 weird how most of the bald primarch are evil 😂
@@justsomedude2020 Horus Heresy? More like Hairless Heresy
Technically Horus also got badly wounded, his sons despite to heal him got tricked into using a demonic ritual. This let chaos into his mind. Chaos showed him a bad possible future and tricked horus into thinking that was the Emperor's plan.
Trickery and foolery everywhere I hope I can learn more about this from the Audio books
@@Torineesanyou can, it's in the horus herecy series.
@@jonathanryan9946 Then it's only a matter of time
@@TorineesanEven worse was the Chaos gods showed him the exact future that would happen if he did revolt against the Emperor. So he directly caused the future that he originally was looking to prevent
@@CodexisInkwind Yeah, poor man... nobody can win it's always dangerous to mess with prophecies
"Why must he be snake?!"
Uh, long forked tongue, hemipenes, muscular tail... Oh, and he has 4 arms now. Not strictly a snake thing, but it is good to remember that detail if you're into certain positions.
That does not answer my question... but raises more I dare not to ask
@@Torineesan He's a Daemon-Primarch of Slaanesh so I feel the reasons should be rather self-evident once you realize what becoming a snake entails. As for why snakes specifically and not, say, goats, crabs, spiders or any other animals that Slaanesh has a weird kink for? Apparently Fulgrim's past experiences with a race of snake people called the Laer convinced him that their form was the most ideal and the closest thing to his idea of 'Perfection'. So Fulgrim thinks being a snake is hot.
That explains it, he was given what he wanted... in a way, thank you for the details ^^
World eaters just get more tragic the more you look into them
Oh boi... not sure I'm ready for it yet
@@Torineesan maybe not yet but definitely worth looking into later
Betrayer is the book that shows it best, you practically see how they went from being the honourable War Hounds to the traitor World Eaters and you see Kharn's humanity above all else, also the relationship between Angron and Lotara Sarin, he genuinely respected her for taking no shit from any one of the World Eaters, even Angron himself, she called out his mistakes to his face with zero fear of being struck down and he liked her cause of that, its a trait you see a lot in the Heresy series, a lot of Astartes and even Primarchs actually really respect normal humans who don't fear them because it lets them keep a part of their humanity despite being superhuman warriors
@@thatlonewolfguy2878 I will add that book to my list! Thank you
The prototype Primarch doesn't have a Legion, so he isn't counted when talking about Legions. It was called The Angel, but had other nicknames like The Sleeper or the Angel of Destruction. It's really old lore though, last seen the Inquisition got the coffin it was sleeping in.
Also there is a prototype Space Marine called Leetu (aka LE 2) who doesn't have a Primarch, he was made from the Emperor's dna and a perpetual woman named Erda... which the Primarchs are too, so kinda making him like a weaker younger brother. This character is much newer, and it was he who convinced everyone that the Emperor wanted to be put on the golden throne after his mortal injury. He was last seen after that awaiting Interrogation and using tarot cards to Devine what the Emperor wanted. As he was made from the dna of the Emperor and Erda, it's very possible he's still alive if he wasn't killed. The fun thing about the character was he was a passive psyker, so he could turn it off or on. Basically when off other psykers couldn't sense him or demons try to take over him (which all other psykers are subject to 24/7 because they can't turn it off).
That's another interesting part of the Lore I can't wait to get to the "ancient" part of the Warhammer universe stories
Tori. There is a Dark Angel behind you. And he whispered:"Interrogation time."
you almost made me check but there's no reason to interrogate me
@@Torineesan but Emperor Children don't need a reason to use their tentacles
@@pakboris2268 where did they come from?!
@@Torineesan they came from above for they also love their jetpacks
As to Fulgrum, your prince with the purple armor and white hair, technically his soul got kicked out of his body when he went full demon. His soul ended up in a new clone body, which is loyal to the Imperium and humanity.
Now that body is trapped in a status field (a place frozen in time). However potentially he could return and fight his evil demon possessed body.
That would be cool to witness Purifying himself in the literal sense
Wait, I didn't know about the soul bit! I thought Clonegrim was a xlone with his memories, body and mentaliry before falling, not that he had the actual soul.
From what I know, the demkn sword took, made him witness his own body commit atrocities, and then the actual mind broken Fulgrim decided to double down on the degeneracy.
Considering GW just teased Emperor's Children models are coming, I say we surely will see more plot development with Fulgrum.
At this point you probably have a bunch of questions like "How did the Emperor of Mankind lose control so badly? Why did half his sons turn against him? What happened to the 2nd and 11th?"
Well if you want most of thoss questions answered, you should totally check out "The Mistakes of The Emperor" videos by Old Man Lore. It not only goes into what kind of man the Emperor is, it also talks about his sons and the context for the how and why. Very underrated.
Thank you for the suggestion, indeed I have a lot of questions ^^ I will check it
We got another one, boys!
Reporting for Duty! o7
I love it when new people fall into the 40k rabbit hole
Legion 2nd and 11th have been Exterminatus and we do not talk about them.
For The Emperor!
For The Emperor!
Ah, but we know what happened to their sons!
@@johnj.spurgin7037 As I said, we don't talk about them.
@@johnj.spurgin7037 they themselves don't know whose son they're tho!
@@denkerbosu3551 yep, but it's pretty obvious they aren't the sons of their adoptive father, if you think about it for a few seconds.
Currently, two are back: Guilliman and Lion. Also, Corax is alive but spends time causing Lorgar to have new levels of phobia of ravens...
Bricky always reminded me of the D&D "Basically" by Runesmith, my favorite ones are "Basically Devils (D&D)" and "Basically Totem Warriors"
It doesn't ring a bell but I love D&D so I will check it out ^^
Ah yes Bricky the 40kth has returned
He just knows how to spread the word of the Emperor!
Your new model is so adorable
Thank you ^^
Ahh yes Vtuber’s watching Bricky’s 40K lectures. My favorite drug!
I'm happy to provide More is coming soon ^^ I have a lot to learn
did horus really fell in love that is why he turned against the emperor
the answer is no
the chaos gods corrupted him
so where did the "demon girl" idea come from? what I learned so far is that Horus wanted to save the Imperium
You know...if Horus would've spent so much time with Vulkan and the Khan, even Chaos wouldn't have been able to tempt the guy.
Also, Dante is the current oldest Space Marine who IS in Active Duty. But not THE oldest. In terms of birth date, the oldest would be most of the Primaris Marines since they were in stasis for 10,000 years. That is why even though the Primaris upgrade is bigger and better than a normal Astartes, they lack the skill and experience of their original counterparts. Unless an Astartes took the Primaris program. And to note, milady, there have been a lot of retcons, and there are even discussions that Horus could come back. I think GW is planning for redemption arcs of some Primarchs. Don't know about Fulgrim, through since he basically has a perfect clone of himself.
Redemption arc would be an interesting idea, although it would upset the balance no? In animes a redemption arc is common but mainly because the BBEG is always replaced by an even "Bigger and Badder Guy"
As to the Alpha Legion... theyve done things that turned out to be very counterproductive to Chaos but then the following day did things very beneficial to Chaos. So both the Imperium and Chaos can't really trust them.
As examples the Alpha Legion has launched lots of minor attacks on worlds, so the Imperium sends reinforcements, these reinforcements arrive but find the Alpha Legion gone, so they improve the defenses of the world. Then as theyre finishing up, other Chaos forces attack a world they thought was less fortified and the Imperium wins. So was the Alpha Legion secretly warning the Imperium? When other times they have destroyed whole worlds...
Alpharius and Omegon heard an alien prophecy where basically if the Imperium wins, then Chaos would infect them and Chaos won. Then they saw a second prophecy where if Horus won, humanity would go extinct but Chaos would die. They didn't like either option... so they basically are trying to get a coin flip to land on its side. Effectively theyre trying to sabotage both sides until they can find a better future.
Now it's possible one of their Primarchs went traitor but the other was loyal too. So half the Alpha Legion are traitors but the other half are loyalists... and no one in the Alpha Legion knows which of their brothers are traitors or loyalists. So they all put on super elaborate plots to fool the rest of their bodies into both destroying the Imperium and saving it simultaneously. With the plan of secretly leaning their preferred way.
The Emperor himself has occasionally given visions to his loyalists to give stuff to the Alpha Legion. So apparently the Emperor can tell who is who, or at least can see the future enough to weigh if this helping while backstabbing is more beneficial than it hurts.
Also the Alpha Legion doesn't only use Space Marines, they let regular humans join then too... because well, a 7 foot tall Space Marine always being a spy would stick out. So theyre absolutely willing to let regular people be their eyes and ears and let them call themselves Alpha Legion too. They call these humans operatives. So technically women could join a Legion, heck, one is the 2nd in command for an Alpha Legion Space Marine named Soloman Akkura. Her name is Tulva Dyne. Now most other Alpha Legion see her as a pet, but she is a psyker who could kill tons of them.
So you are telling me I might have a chance with those guys.... like a good Dream bunny operative
@@Torineesan Well, both could be dead, or neither could be dead. In theory Rogal Dorn killed Alpharius and Roboute Guilliman killed Omegon... who knows with these two. Plenty of people think Omegon. or Alpharius pretending to be Omegon, is still around. A lot of fans think he's pretending to be a Dark Angel known as Cypher.
That stated their sons could recuit you as one of their operatives, so you'd kinda be an unofficial Alpha Legion.
But all Space Marines are chemically castrated, so they have no sex drive at all. There's one Space Wolf who has implied he still has a sex drive but he's a big boaster so a lot of fans are skeptical about this.
The Emperor was very pro humanity, it's kinda implied he didn't want any transhumans breeding with and corrupting humanities pure DNA. Transhuman means genetically modified in sci-fi, not swapping genders btw. Basically he thought humanity was on the path to becoming like him one day and he didn't want anything corrupting that.
Now other Marines do hire humans as surffs. They crew their ships or guard their bases when they go off-world. As a female your best bet would be a starship crew, as they do often limit the guards to males as they hunt for potential recruits among their human soldiers who guard places
@@jonathanryan9946 I was told I would qualify as an Abhuman, so that might be helpful and I wouldn't want to be a proper Space Marine I have to learn more about the Sisters of Battle to decide on them
@@Torineesan You'd have to hide the abhuman part from the Sisters of Battle... they, uh, don't treat abhumans well. They typically fear mutations are a sing of Chaos corruption and use flamethrowers on abhumans. If not in combat, they might just build a pyre and tie you to it, then toss in a match. Hell, the Sisters of done that to other Sisters who mess up.
Further most Sisters, like 99.98% of them come from families with long service records serving in the Imperium or nobility. The few regular women who joined their ranks had to do insane things as young girls to join them. Like walking a pilgrimage while stopping a candle from burning out in the wind. Them shielding it from blowing out infant of their church for 3 days as she nearly died of dehydration and lack of sleep. Only as she was nearly dying did one of the Sisters break ranks and take her as her personal trainee.
The Sisters are HARD CORE. You have to be pure of body and with an unbreakable will for them to accept anyone not from long lineages of the Imperium. That's partially because of pride in their bloodlines and partially because they track how pure families bloodlines are free of mutations.
I definitely get the appeal though, if I was female, they be who'd I'd want to join too. They're some of the most badass people in any franchise, like ever. They make metal look tame.
@@jonathanryan9946 I will have to learn more about them, maybe Weshammer's video, I saw it recommended but it's a longer one and I can't hide my ears
The biggest irony of the Iron Hands is that their battle cry "Flesh is weak" came from Vulkan of all people
Nothing is simple in this Universe except Praise the Emperor!
Misquoted I might add. I swear half of 40k problems can be resolved if they take times to explain stuff, instead of going "Ugh you can never understand me, now we must commence jousting.
Press F for the 9th legion papa
Glorious hawkboi who did what was right despite knowing his own fate
I remember trying to find out what the 2nd legion is but all I got was Space Marine Dragons, which i know has to be fake.
What 2nd Legion? we have 18 and I don't a 2nd in it (I was told GW decided to utilize it as a "custom" legion after seeing how people were using it)
@@Torineesan Yeah lore-wise it's hypothesized they did some big no-nos and Big E purged them from everyone's mind (This was before Horus betrayed). The only reason the remaining half that betrayed still exist was because Big E was wounded and couldn't erase them from history again like before.
Meta-wise, it's so people can be more comfortable when home-brewing their own legion/chapters, since you can wiggle around that missing chapters, and had an excuse as to why you're painting green Ultramarines instead of blue.
Dr. Chris raynor is a surgeon that have a video about trying to make a space marine in this century. Space marine have crazy organs.
Oh boi... that sounds like an interesting study
Love vtubers getting into Warhammer 40k
...for in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war.... And Vtubers... Soon the time will come when Vtubers will have to choose a side
I’m glad I found this channel. Adorable personality and watched Bricky.
Thank you ^^ I'm happy to hear that!
Lion El Jonson, Primarch of the 1st Legion the Dark Angels, tried to lure out the traitors who were attacking Earth... by attacking and destroying their homeworlds in return.
This caused some of them to leave attacking Earth and rush back to defend their world... where Lion then killed them and then their world.
This allowed two of his brothers and their loyal fleets to get past the traitors blockade of Earth.
Unfortunately when Lion returned to his own homeworld he found some of his sons went traitor and attacked him. When Lion attacked them back the loyal Space Marines on the planet were told by the Traitor Space Marines, that Lion went traitor. So Unfortunately a few traitors caused tons of loyal Marines to fight the other loyal Marines in the confusion. These tricked Marines and traitors were called the FALLEN, that the loyal Dark Angels were trying to erase from history.
Now since this video, Lion El Jonson returned too like Roboute Guilliman of the Ultramarines. He has stopped his sons from killing the tricked loyal Marines and dubbed them RISEN. Most of these are Marines from the Horus Herecy era of 30k which due to the warp got sent through time into the future 40k setting. Lion is still hunting down the traitors though.
So far Lion and Guilliman haven't met again yet, Lion was told Guilliman was back too but Guilliman doesn't know Lion is back yet as he's on the other side of the galaxy currently.
I wonder if there's a book telling his story about the return
@@Torineesan It's in the novel The Lion: Son of the Forest. By Mike Brooks.
There's also the table top campaign books (think part novel and part guide to playing the tabletop) Called Arks of Omen that contain stories set right after Son of the Forest.
@@jonathanryan9946 Excellent! Thank you for the info ^^
Advice for a future react
'If the Emperor had a text to speech device'
It is a comedy/parody fan series set in 40k. Sadly it's on permanent hiatus due to games workshop being greedy, but what was made is still available to watch on youtube.
I will check it out, maybe I do a test upload with my editor to see if it gets flagged Thank you ^^
@@Torineesan Always happy to spread word of the series. Even if it's just something you wind up watching on your own :)
Sleep is not for the strong...
Sleep is for the ones who have chosen to embrace Slaanesh, and given into their base desires.... 😏
Iykyk...
I think I'm missing context here but wouldn't "excess" amount of sleep count as embracing Slaneesh?
The Prototype Primarch is The Angel of Destruction, AKA The Angel or The Sleeper. If you thought the Emperor saw the Primarchs as tools, wait until you see the condition of this one. He made him intelligent to calculate the best way to destroy Chaos. Unfortunately, it came to the conclusion that the best way is to cause genocide. The Angel was also too loyal to Emps and ridiculously vengeful, where he once turned a whole city on Terra to ash because he didn't believe they loved Him enough. So The Emperor locked him away where it still lives under the Imperial Palace, sealed in a coffin.
So it's like a "rogue AI" and "The Ghost Rider" story combined in an oversimplified nutshell
@@Torineesan Sorta. Imo it's more like a Frankenstein story, where he created a being to use as a tool, ensured he was 100% loyal and vehemently vengeful against Chaos, and then act surprised when it went too far and out of control. Creating the Primarchs that we know now instead of ones like The Angel, is like how The Emperor went from Thunder Warriors to Space Marines.
@@firelord699 Interesting and it makes sense he decided to come up with a better "plan"
Ultramarines were also known as "Warborns" the 2nd and 3rd of choice Chaos God Khorne instead of the World Eaters if ever Angron died
Interesting where is it mentioned, is it a book?
@@Torineesan Horus Heresey Book V - Tempest
@@vergiltheartofpower6616 Thank you! o7
Actually the emperor's children only succumbed to chaos because of the demonic possession of fulgrim He LOVED the emperor
Is there a book about them? The pursuit of Perfection causing their downfall sounds very interesting and promising
Not yet but usually Horus heresy books are books that talk about every faction at one point or another @@Torineesan
@@Torineesanthere are books that are out like the Fabius bile books eidolon and lord of excess a third one is coming out in October
@@trashdoge1217 Thank you, I will keep it mind
@@Torineesan Fulgrim by Graham McNeill, it goes from early history, up to opening salvos of the Heresy. Also The Reflection Crack'd also by Graham McNeill goes a bit more about corruption and set sometime after the ending of Fulgrim, can be found in The Primarchs anthology.
There are Humans, then Firstborns (OG Space Marines), then Primaris (new ones), then Grey Knights (Special anti-demons Space Marines), then Adeptus Custodes, then Primarchs, and the Emperor.
So if we allow warp shenanigans technically Zabriel is the oldest living space marine. But if not I think it's Dante. If we count dreadnoughts then that'll add like 5 more characters to the list.
Also if we add traitor legions the list gets a lot bigger with Fabius Bile, Eidolon and Ahriman.
@@Joromonni pretty sure that'd fall under "warp shenanigans"
Interesting I wonder how does the Warp influence such things as aging
@@Torineesan time is funky there, and chaos marines tend to be mutated at least to the point their age is irrelevant. plenty of them have probably died multiple times as well, but the chaos gods just bring their toy soldiers back to have them play again.
@@Torineesan Some people like Zabriel got lost in the warp pre-heresy or during the heresy, and then get spewed out during the M40-41, so it mightve felt like a few weeks for Zabriel and co while it was closer to 10 millenia outside the warp. The warp is wack.
So the cannibalism feature is in all space marine legions lets them get skills battle strategies and other info on who they eat
Indeed, I was told about this during my stream too ^^ it is an interesting approach, but not very nice though I don't miss it from the game ^^"
Wanna Warhammer 40k Stories? Baldemort is great as he mixes lore with stories.
Thank you
Love the new chibi model!
Thank you! Glad to hear that ^^
Man, i love your accent. So cute!
Thank you ^^ 💙
@@Torineesan you are welcome.
Hive city nobles have various pet "cats"
black templars for live
the black templars are a sub chapter of the imperial fists and they more melee offences and the most feared cause they love close combat
I'm Alpharius.
Alpharius is the perfect "I'm your only viewer..." meme
This is a lie
@@jonathanryan9946 That's something Alpharius would say
TECHNICALLY 22
but fewer people in lore about that than 21, probably
Not another one where did the 21st come from?
@@Torineesan Well one is the proto-primarch
and one is Omegon
Oh and there is also another Chaos god
@@nosville22 Other than the 4 we know? such a big universe
I read some stories about the alpha legion and couldnt stop laughing. Their misinformation campaign is so extreme that it confused their enemies, allies and even themselves. They are like that cat who starts a domino cat mass panic and getting just as confused as the other cats.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Salamanders are best bois.
Horus fell for a lot of reasons. The seed was initially sown because he felt slighted that the Emperor left him in charge without any real explanation, and wouldn't even tell Horus what he was doing. He knew it was important; it was necessarily more important the Great Crusade. But he felt betrayed that the Emperor didn't trust him enough with the secret.
However, he was still loyal. What really caused him to fall was manipulation. The Word Bearers had already fallen to Chaos, and one of them attacked Horus with a weapon that was keyed to be a kind of nemesis for a particular target. Whatever the target was, the weapon would take on whatever properties were required to kill them (the weapon was actually itself a chaos artifact, its keepers just didn't know that). That same traitor then tricked Horus' officers into taking him to a nearby "lodge" to heal him. But the lodge was actually a cult of chaos. That's where Horus was corrupted. He was shown visions of the Imperium as it would eventually become; a twisted, broken, theocratic, fascist dystopia. And was convinced he had to stop the Great Crusade and overthrow the Emperor. Ironically, it was Horus' own rebellion that caused these visions to come true.
Most of the other Primarchs who turned didn't have such high and mighty reasons for doing so, though.
He didn't happy with the fact that everything will be handle by the high lords after the crusade
he found out the truth about the thunder warriors, and affraid the same fate will happen to the Astartes
And he got trick to see the vision big E become god
He never like the Chaos gods, he just use them, as soon as he cripple Big E, he cut them off, and got deleted because of it
Really a tragic guy
And also, Angron
I can't wait to finish the Horus Heresy books and learn about this in detail, it sounds very tragic and shows the influence of the Chaos forces, amazing world-building
Espionage. Sounds French, doesn't it? Spion is spy in French.
Spy is French in TF2... Coincidence? I think not!
@@Torineesan Learned it when saw French intro to Spy vs Spy show. It probably was TF2 dubbed.
New model! looks cute!
Thank you! ^^
Your honor, my client knows nothing of The Fallen. Just look at her. She just a little gal and her head is completely empty.
Anyways, Night Lords are my absolute favorite faction in 40K. From their design to their primarch and other characters. They don't necessary suck, especially since a lot of their warriors are veterans from The Heresy times. It's that their primarch is dead, they got beaten to the ground and their legion is split into tiny little warbands that can't do much on their own. There is a new character trying to get them all together though.
They also have some of the best books written about them.
Could you tell me the titles of some of those books? (no links of course, just titles) and my head is not empty! v.v
@@Torineesan Of course.
Konrad Curze: The Night Haunter
That one is about the primarch.
Soul Hunter, Blood Reaver and Void Stalker
A trilogy set after Horus Heresy, focusing on one of Night Lords warbands. You can get the whole trilogy as Night Lords: The Omnibus.
@@Torineesan Also, head empty 🗿
@@TheBreadbear Thank you! Added to my list and my head is not empty, it just needs a lot of space for Warhammer and TF2
@@Torineesan Understandable, have nice day.
Magnus did nothing wrong!
i.e. He was told to do nothing, and he did it wrong!
How about reacting to majorkills videos about Warhammer 40k it's really funny as well as simple and on point
Will check it out, thank you!
The "proto-primarch" chat was talking about firstly, isnt even a primarch, merely a different created being by the emperor, and is barely even canon in the first place. not worth trying to connect to Astartes stuff.
Also canonically Sanguinius was so hot that every single blood angel comes out also hot. Doesnt matter if the kid that turned into the space marine was completely deformed, malnourished, hideous, whatever, they turn that uggo into a blood angel and they come out looking like Chris Hemsworth lmaoo
The brickster claims another anime girl
He knows the way
Cute model
Thank you! ^^ 💙
...Wtf is this ? Where the hell am i !? 😧
"In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war. The Emperor of Mankind wages a constant battle to protect humanity from the horrors of space. On the fringes of the Imperium, alien races lurk and plot, and chaos demons leak into our reality from the torment of the warp."
In a nutshell, you are witnessing my journey to become a Space Bunny Marine
@@Torineesan The most important question is that... WHY THE HELL UA-cam ADD SUGGESTED THIS VIDEO TO ME !? 🤣
@@Smiley-ps1yc it knows what's best
@@TorineesanYou are Scary ! 🤣🤣🤣
Can you actually follow when you're pausing every 10 seconds?
Yes ^^ I prefer to not talk over the video all the time
Can't stand watching streamers that pause in the middle of a sentence in a video and ramble for 30+ seconds about nothing.
Yeah, same