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At one time this logo represented one of the most brutally dominate brands in mobile technology, but this company completely underestimated the consumer market. When it fell, it fell hard. Back from the ashes, with a new manufacturing partnership, and a return to its hardware roots. Turns out, you can go home again. Here’s our BlackBerry Keyone After the buzz.
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CANNOT imagine life without Blackberry Hub. And only Blackberry users can understand why that is.
No other brand ever got it right.
if BlackBerry keep making mid range phones fine, but give those phones a mid range price.
tflynn124 550 isn't a midrange price?
Not in comparison to an essential phone or a one plus 5t
That's basically the problem with Blackberry in a nutshell.
Agreed
you know that a capacitive keyboard is 200$ irl right? so a capacitive keyboard on a cell phone guess what, its gonna be probably half the price tag of the phone.
really hoping for priv 2 this summer. i can't understand people that hate a brand just because. there is still a market for these type of phones and i am a part of that market. i use my phone for strictly business when i can't use my laptop. blackberry caters to that in the best ways.
dela vago The Priv was definitely a cool phone! 😎
No priv plans for 2018, I work for blackberry TCL tech support and we have 3 devices, Athena, Luna and Uni (Minerva)
Athena being the Keyone's successor, imagine a Motion with a Keyboard.
Luna is meant to be a "Entry level" BlackBerry, meant to be for those who want all the BlackBerry security without the BlackBerry price point. Kinda like the successor to the BlackBerry Aurora.
Uni (Minerva) is the successor to the Motion. Not much is know about this device yet... Other than its a full screen device.
David Ponce do you really work for TCL
David Ponce Maybe TCL hires teenagers, but I highly doubt they would permit anyone to break any NDAs. So nice try, but I don't buy it. Especially seeing how there was already a recent patent filed for a device nearly identical to the PRIV.
Brother Neil yes, call BlackBerry on Saturdays around 7 pm central and I'll answer im the only one connected at that time
I just got a Keyone Black Edition.I love it,does what it is susposed to do and the battery life is incredible.2 days with 9% left.Only took just less than 2 hours for it to get to 100%.
I know quite a few business-oriented people that romance this handset... They LOVE the physical keyboard for things like emails, memos, and correspondence on the fly - AND the customizable shortcuts!
Crazcompart agreed
Very nicely written . I mostly see ppl talking about emails and spreadsheets on a Blackberry ....
I've had the KEYone for just over 6 months now, it still delivers multiple day battery life, the typing experience is second to none, and the shortcuts and customization is every bit as useful and fun as I could have hoped for. I will definitely be upgrading to another blackberry in the future after I've run this one into the ground.
This is the phone I'm looking for. Oh gosh the keyboard brings back soooooo much memory. the KEYone is now the second place in my heart and the Razer Phone is the first for the best smartphone speaker. It's hard for a Apple fan to say this, but nowadays android have some really good phones.
"Now TCL continues to mount their power button in a very unfamiliar place, it's actually pretty awkward"... YEAH, FOR YOU RIGHT-HANDED FOLK!!!
Your notification bar is killing me
I would love and be willing to pay for an high-end flagship version of the keyone. I love BlackBerrys.
Luis Mejia Agreed- take my money under those circumstances.
Me too man. They are great phones. Still got a Q10, lol.
BlackBerry needs to make a passport 2 running with Stock Android with high end specs.
I don't like the idea of worl without Blackberry. You said it man. Love BB
Next? Passport 2 + android= Take my money
fTdM I can pay 1000$ for it.
I am absolutely in love with my Blackberry. I don't want any other phone there is. I hope it lasts for a while.
I've missed blackberry so much....there is nothing like having real buttons to press. Touchscreens are torturous to use, and their popularity blows my mind. When I walked into my sprint store for an upgrade today, I immediately gravitated to the keyone. When the associate said it is the only phone in the store with a physical keyboard and that she only has one left, I jumped on it. Couldn't be happier.
Love my KEYone! For the KEYtwo, I'd like an OLED screen, incorporating on-screen navigation buttons (the current capacitive buttons are a travesty), a better speaker (the current one sucks), more RAM, same great battery life. With those improvements, I'd be thrilled - everything else I enjoy!
Try the Dtek60,ticks all those boxes and more for me, got mine from CEX for £165.mint.
Thanks Dream Box :) Thing is, no PKB on the Dtek's, and the PKB is my main reason for owning a 'berry haha
I still want to pick this up on the cheap as a backup phone, it's such a cool looking device and I love that ability to use pretty much the whole keyboard as a suite of shortcuts.
Best thing you can find them now for €350, or €440 if you want the black edition. As soon as one of my current phones dies I'll surely jump on the latter...
I just want another Blackberry Classic style phone. Nothing trumps that little powerhouse.
i have the keyone and i have to say by far, the best cell phone i owed
I use a KEYone. I like it. I was skeptical about the keyboard but it won me over. Came for the keyboard, stayed for the battery life. Go BB.
It’s April 2018 and I still use the Blackberry Classic. I love it. I’ll get a KeyOne next when I feel like it.
Juan Carlos, I have to say it was a great review, but I NEVER want to see or have a BlackBerry without the convenience key. It has always been integral to the Swiss Army Knife of mobile devices. Earlier on at their apex, they had TWO convenience keys. Now they've made things a lot easier with the ability to program multiple profiles/apps to the convenience keys on the Motion and KEYone. Also, the Productivity Tab on screen serves well as the replacement to the secondary convenience key of old.
They've gotta be there. It's part of the BlackBerry soul.
best idea of a series
what everyone forget to say is a physical keyboard allows you to touch the key and makes sure its the right BEFORE it enter. It's so good it makes autocorrect obsolete. Touchscreen enters the key, and you find out you press the worn key after the fact.
And the fact that autocorrect even exists is proof that touchscreens are inaccurate by design
Great video. There needs to be some IP rating. There also needs to be on screen buttons that hide . Bump up the chip. Increase the body dimensions just a little bit. Switch the location of the convenience key and power button. Give the next Keyone a bigger battery.
I would LOVE a Qualcomm 630 with a 4000mAh battery.
I don't think we'll see IP ratings with the physical keyboard phones. The all-touchscreen Motion has IP67. With a physical keyboard, there's too many places where the protection could fail (i.e. 30 keys).
JuanBagnell That would probably push 2 day battery life with heavy usage right? That's really exciting!
I really like the "After the buzz" videos
Most kindly,from any part of the world,who can freely give me a BlackBerry key one? I love it.
As well as mid-range phones, they should try to make a flagship phone, still keeping the BlackBerry trend we all know and love. I know I’d buy it.
Great review man honest and practical for adults and people that don’t care about bragging and talking about how there device has the latest and greatest specs.
I hear that love letter.... My Keyone is amazing. Genuinely happier with this phone than any other I've had.
Dude, I genuinely enjoyed this video. Informative without being too dreary. First time on your channel, won't be the last. I've been wanting to return to Blackberry for a while, considered the Priv but many reviews dissed the performance. KEYone just might be the balanced reintroduction I needed. Thanks for the vid and keep up the good work..
make a KEYone 2 in 2018 with last year's Snapdragon 835 with at least 6GB RAM with a slightly bigger screen and price it at around $550
queenform looks like they heard you ...key2 with 6gb of ram ,but the processor is snapdragon 660 ..and it has slightly bigger keys than keyone and the phone is thinner
I love the phone tbh. It's held up really good for me ☺.
I absolutely love my KeyOne. Loved my PRIV, loved my Classic, loved my Q10 and will love my next BB device no doubt!
Outstanding. Thank you. I just bought one.
One of the best phone I’ve used in a while. Battery is a beast.
Hopefully for KeyTwo:
- Faster Processor
- Bigger RAM
- OLED display
I’ll be happy customer 😊
I bought mine last week. I love it. I had a iPhone X before the key one, so it took me some time to get used to android. But the blackberry part took me way back, its on point a business phone. It's very good and very reliable, the battery is mine blowing. I hope BB keeps it up.
I agreed with this video. Own a Keyone never regretted it. Going to keep for a while. I'll be surprised if I don't get a Keyone 2.
I'd love to see a Blackberry Passport 2 with android.. oh and by the way, the black&white camera from the side..NEAT! **bro fist**
Having a little fun with this one :-)
A rare Juan video on this channel.
I'm still making videos...
I use my KeyOne at work for data entry of an inventory spreadsheet.
The phone's design in unintendedly perfect for Word and Excel!!!
Thanks for posting this! This old man is excited that the textile qwerty is back on the shelves and with a smart way to balance functionality and battery usage.
I actually have my keyone up on eBay right now. The mistaken home buttons inputs drove me crazy. I might regret letting it go because it truly is a near-perfect phone.
That was a great little video. I got the keyone when it first came out. Had a few issues with it and returned it. I just ordered another one . Should be in this week. There is so much I do love about the device. Can't wait to use it again.
Great job!! I still love Blackberry and I’m always rooting for them!
I think it would be good but the 500 dollar price tag is way too much for this
Passport 2? The best physical keyboard was undoubtedly on the Passport. I found the Keyone too narrow and constantly caught the capacitive buttons.
I love Passport fans, you liked the wonky keyboard, so that must mean it's "undoubtedly" the best keyboard... Eh, no...
Ken45 and I also own a Galaxy Note 8 and Pixel 2 XL - so I keep my options open!
The best keyboard on a BlackBerry ever was that of the Passport SE. I hope TCL develops a Passport 2.0.
Michele Platts I powered up my passport and slapped the Sim card in the other day . Man I love that phone!!! If only bb10 was still going be supported !
Mike Abrames , yes I’ve just heard that BB10 is going to finish in December 2019. What a shame that the mobile world has to be dominated by Samsung and Apple! Enjoy it while you can. 😎
Any idea how to turn off the 15% low battery LED notification? I prefer to run the battery as close to empty as possible.
You got all of it right! Especially the power button and the convience button. As I have already fed back a few times to blackberry, I would switch the two. Mounting the phone was a pain but eventually I mastered it. Though if the power button and convenience key were switched...and both on the right side (volume rocker and...now power button) moved up an inch, that would work perfectly for me. Battery life is competition-less thanks to the chip set and the keyboard is even better than I had on HTC Desire Z. I love the phone!
I used to have htc Desire and Nokia Lumia 925. I have to say, in my opinion, phones were much more interesting back in the day. Of course, the performance has significantly improved. But the feel is just as important. I have an iPhone 7 now, which works very well, takes great photos, has acceptable battery life and does pretty much everything I would expect it to. But it’s so boring.
Kirill Holstov i had the Lumia 925 and I loved it. A lot of character and Windows Phone had its charm. Now on an LG G6 which is obviously a great phone but although I never owned one the G4 was so much more enticing. Someone said all phones had to to be glass and aluminium and the result is every phone is the same.
No mattter the Mobile Windows shenanigans: If I hadn't smashed my 925's screen (can't access a password-locked Microsoft phone via trusted Microsoft PC connection - WHAT!?!?) I wouldn't have abandoned it until the death of its battery, at least.
John Duncan I really liked the G4 as well :)
4rtificial1dioty It’s a shame MS didn’t bother to invest more time and effort into WP, they wasted a great platform and brought Nokia to the bottom. Even though, before Nokia were bought by MS, they made a lot of mistakes as well.
I remember the lumia 920 and the N9, the N9 was like a true unicorn while the 920(I miss it so much), had a great display for it's time, easily the best constructed plastic phone ever made, had character in it's looks and especially towards it's back which was so good looking, with the camera being near the middle of the frame, so no accidental hand covers, it also had wireless charging and to top it all off, great performance with just a dual core snapdragon processor.
I work for BlackBerry TCL tech support and we have 3 devices for 2018. Athena, Luna and Uni (Minerva)
Athena being the Keyone's successor, imagine a Motion with a Keyboard.
Luna is meant to be a "Entry level" BlackBerry, meant to be for those who want all the BlackBerry security without the BlackBerry price point. Kinda like the successor to the BlackBerry Aurora.
Uni (Minerva) is the successor to the Motion. Not much is know about this device yet... Other than its a full screen device.
I want a bigger screen and a side-slide keyboard!
... Are you not under an NDA? (Are NDAs a thing in the hardware industry?)
I would agree with your points. I've been a daily user of a KeyOne for a few months now. It does a good job. It is a bit laggy, and I wish they'd put out an update to allow the option to remap keys. For instance, I find that the left-shift and the Alt keys are in the wrong place - I'd like to switch their functions. Also, I'd prefer to have another line of numbers above the letters. Having to use Alt for numbers is a hassle. Otherwise, I'm pretty happy with it.
Love the keyone!!
I want to see an flagship Blackberry with a vertical slider keybord like the old one
A LOT of people want to see a Priv 2.
JuanBagnell yes like the priv but with the clicky keyboard of the keyone, not the smushi of the priv
For the capacitive buttons issue, they could fix that in software, by ignoring a tap on them when you swipe from the keyboard. It is like how some touch pads can have a scroll section but ignore the scroll if you swipe from outside of the gesture region. On a smartphone, the capacitive regions can have the same accuracy as the main screen, since many companies simply extend the digitizer down by a few millimeters.
Was using the keyone but the interface felt laggy after 3 months of use. Wished they had put more RAM and optimized the UI more
I had to return this phone when I bought it. I found that the soc was just to slow, the phone would hang about once or twice a day badly and it was honestly kinda fustrating. Maybe some more ram would be a solution or faster chip
Wonderful follow up!
The Last Starfighter... have that as my wallapaper.
I was forced to move to Android this year after WhatsApp finally stopped working on BB10 and I need it for work. The thing I miss the most is the HUB, and even though its available on Android its nowhere near what it was on BB10. I really wish that BB can do more to bringing it closer to the BB10 experience. I suspect Android OS will switch towards a more gesture based OS after the iPhone X release and when it happens, BB can probably use the experience of making BB10 and make one hell of a UI for Android.
Im 15 and my 2nd smartphone was a milestone 2 and i absolutley loved the keyboard... I miss it so much... Propably i will buy a bb priv soon...
My 2 biggest issues for the KeyOne are the word selection on the capacitive touch screens. Somehow the words I swipe up to choose somehow are not the words entered into the text message. I recently had to use the Passport to replace the screen that popped off. I had to get a new Key One under warranty. The Passport was much easier to use and more accurate. Second, is the Hub Integration. I still get text in the hub and selecting the message takes you to the previous text in the message screen. That is really annoying. But great phone. Glad to have it.
I never had a BlackBerry when they were at peak dominance but I had a lg mytouch and I've always been a big fan of keyboards on phones so I tried the blackberry keyone after having iPhones 5-7. now I know i will never go back to using any other phone. i love my keyone! its perfect for me cause I dont really use all that many apps and I like to keep my home screen simple so the function to have shortcuts on the keyboard is amazing for me. the only complain I do have with it is the camera. coming from iPhone I was spoiled with great camera quality. the camera it has isn't terrible, but it definetly be better. can't wait to see what the keytwo will bring to the table.
I love this phone and awesome take on this device!
Better camera, waterproofing and it’s perfect!
I actually like the Priv conecpt more...
1. It has a regular 16:9 screen format
2. If you don't want the keyboard (because you only need it for typing...) you can hide it.
Hopefully there is a Priv 2 coming in the future with more optimized hard- and software (and a lower price tag...)
It's nice for once to see someone talk good about BlackBerry
props for that note 4
Excellent review. Enjoy watching you on TWiT. Keep up the great work.
I would love to see how they fix the capacitive button issue. I tried the keyboard cover for the s8 and had a similar problem with the home button at the bottom of the keyboard. I really wanted a BlackBerry but the price was just too high for me when I compared the KeyOne to the s8 last summer (Samsung ran some killer sales).
I miss those grippy backs!
And this keyboard is a pleasure to use, every feature it offers is well thought.
I hope there will be a slider BB key two with the latest snapdragon, higher ram, better camera, and water proofing. The priv design is actually quite nice.
i love my keyone so much
Still absolutely in love with my KEYone. The keyboard shortcuts as you mentioned are a GAME-CHANGER and I use them every day. The battery life remains epic... seeing how everyone scrambles to charge around me, I'll never go to a top-range processor again; battery life has just become something I demand from my next phone. I disagree with Juan about the convenience key, though. I use mine for the flashlight and it's great because the phone does not need to be unlocked in order to use it. Try it! I also kinda want an extra GB of RAM.
If the KEYtwo comes along, I will happily snap it up to show my support. This is easily the best smartphone I've ever owned... and I've owned many dating back to the Palm Treo 650!
Love this review, it was honest, totally accurate and I couldn't agree more. KeyONE is my daily driver and wouldn't trade it for anything else. Thanks!
I bought the Galaxy S7 with a Samsung-branded keyboard case/attachment for about $65. When not in use, the keyboard can be removed and attached to the back of the phone. Once I got into the habit of attaching the keyboard before typing out a long message, I realized just how much slower and error prone my virtual keyboard typing was. Only thing keeping me from picking up the KeyOne is the camera (S7 camera is very good, BB cameras have always been an afterthought).
A really great video and spot on with the wanted upgrades with the camera and the spacing between the keyboard and the navigation buttons. The two things I would add is make the KeyTwo a quarter inch wider and a half inch taller, and make it with 4 GB RAM and 64 GB internal memory. I love my KeyOne and definitely would love to see an upgrade to those specs for the KeyTwo.
I’d like to see an improvement in the quality of the keyboard. It isn’t up to the same quality as that on my Q10. I go along with your suggestions.
What I would like to see is a modernized throwback to the Bold line of BBs. Give us that raised, smile pattern keyboard and track pad. Allow options for those that aren't media consumers or just don't want to carry something the size of a roofing tile in their pockets. Like a cross between the Bold 9900 and the BB Classic.
An IP rating will be tricky, considering it's a hardware keyboard phone. You'll probably get a IP 45 at best. Looks like the BB Motion will be the alternative to those who want a more rugged product.
Owning a blackberry keyone black edition with my passport.
i love this phone!
Blackberry keyone contact software aspect is not strong......... it keep showing double contact number when searching name, that alone is headache for me.
Its not like the previous blackberry i know and i think they have work on that asap
Using my priv. Did not face any problem at all. Most beautiful phone available. At least different from the glass slabs. Really hoping for priv2 at a bit realistic price.
They should bring back the prive, or whatever it was called. I almost bought that phone, but the speks were not great.
i would love to see a side slide full keyboard flagship from one of the companys (especially nokia)
motorola moto z with the new keyboard mod?
Austin Childs how did i not saw this ill check it out thanks, but i still would love to see a new flagship with keyboard... that mod doesnt look sturdy
BlackBerry design and feel, android OS and a great physical keyboard make a super great team! Love my KEYone! It's a great work unit, email crusher and typing is pure.
I would seriously love a plus model, maybe the keyboard from the Classic line or Bold line with the new modern touches. Keyboard short cuts are fantastic, less crowded screen now.
Hope the whispers of new models is true! :)
Gonna buy this soon!
i love this phone most of the time, it has only let me down when using to order from app menus in pubs, where the pay screen gets stuck in loading.
Have this and love it, too bad my screen fell off and blackberry replaced it with a refurb with a squeaky back, screen light bleed, more than normal lag and unable to get updates for some reason.
I love this phone, actually more than the Key2. I prefer the overall look and feel to the Keyone vs the Key2. The rounded edges on the bottom made it far more comfortable to hold. I actually went back to using my Keyone over the 2 simply because I enjoyed it more. I don't play any games or anything so the 625 was plenty to get what I need done on a daily basis.
If i didn't love HTC so much i would have chosen the BB phone because i love a hardware keyboard. It is a feature that i keep missing on my phone. Especially now that we are texting to much on our phone. In the past i wrote whole chapters of school assignments on my HTC phone like the TyTn2 and the Desire Z while traveling from Groningen to Amsterdam or Rotterdam to Groningen.
Great Shirt, and great phone.
Looking forward to the KEY2 when it comes out, which has some of the features you wanted, improved. BUT... I have to ask, where did you get that awesome air vent phone holder? Totally want one.. if it works!
For the KEYtwo I hope they take marketing serious. I hardly remembered this phone. Second is communication and consistency. Third move that power button.
Ramon McNally the power button is in the perfect place. This is because it can be used to hang up calls. Using a touch scren to hang up calls is terrible. The power button needs to be out of the way in order to avoid dropping calls.
Honestly wondering if there's gonna be a G6 after the buzz, considering how there wasn't anything to be truly buzzed about when it released
If you mean the LG G6 there is already one.
InFlotechTV holy shit, they didn't even give the damn thing a year
Yep only 6 months after its' debut at MWC.
As an owner of the G6 I know it wasn't very loved by consumers. Aside from the camera lens easily getting scracthed the phone is pretty good
battery life on this device has just been awesome, even after a day of med-heavy use it's at about 50% at night.
I really wish they can make Blackberry Passport version of Android as Passport 2 or have two versions of KeyTwo.
One wide screen with high end specs and other a gradual update of Keyone.
Make Key2 larger and have side slide keyboard -- now THAT would be a laptop replacement!
I would like to see a passport body style which would provide a bigger screen and added durability. Bigger storage and an extra gig of RAM
I love my keyone more and more everyday! , its one of the best phone i have owned in a long time and I will not replace it unless they bring out another QWERTY phone which is as good!
I'd like to see the nav keys come into a toolbelt with the trackball/pad like the classic had. Use the blackberry key for the app switcher. The classic was by far my favorite phone of all time.