Simple. Had this problem. Dr Cywes fixed this for me. Even though I have been carnivore for over 2 years. Not fat adapted yet. My blood sugars were around 103. Not necesaroly in ketosis even if I was always under 20 grams. If their blood glucose is too high, they are eating too much protein. Body can't store protein. Gluconeogenesis from too much excess protein. Body can't store protein and puts it into glycogen and glucose. Barely 20% protein 80+ fat mostly from fatty cheese like cream cheese. Make sure you have at least one egg yolk a day for micronutrients. Now totally fat adapted. Living on 800 calories easily. Average blood sugar 79 as measured on the new Stelo over the counter Continuous Glucose Monitor with hours below 70 for maximum ketosis, human growth hormone, and fat burning. Plenty of energy. Back to the gym. Rotary trainer for over 20 minutes. Lifting weights heavier than I ever have. Losing weight again after a big stall. But I was eating lots of meat back then. Don't fall for the carbs bait. Carbs are just plain metabolic poison. The guy talking to Lily is not a scientist or a doctor. He is making stuff up with no idea of what he is talking about. Just speculation. How do I know? I am a Metabolic Health Research Engineering Scientist for over 30 years. Dr. Westman is brilliant, a real doctor, doing research on this issue treating real patients. He is being very diplomatic here. Dr. Cywes who helped me get to the root of the problem is also a doctor treating metabolic health issues and insulin resistance and he was the one who figured this out for me based on real deep dive testing and seeing what my glucose numbers. It was he who assured me that noone knows how much protein we need . We have enough bad protein in the form of precancer cells and misformed mitochondria wondering around in our bodies. And egg has enough nutrition to grow a chicken. If you are not eating sugar you are not losing that much protein to sugar inflammation damage. Eat much more Saturated Fat and way much less protein to solve this problem
@@unleashed3074 great minds think alike. Have you heard of or tried the new over the counter Continuous Glucose Monitor Stelo? It was a hame changer for me to see what my glucose does after a meal an how fast ot drops. Really showed me that what Dr. Cywes wanted me too do was working brilliantly in real time.
I got ripped 30yrs ago going down to 900 calories and only 60gms protein. I lost no muscle whatsoever at this low protein amount. We are being forced a lie IMO about this protein protein protein push nowadays. Insulin is death....an old bodybuilder guru from 30yrs ago would always say that. Insulin is death aka the true secret to staying young and healthy is to keep insulin as low as possible. Then you have steak and butter gal eating 5 pounds of beef. Forgetting about her extreme beef aversion from doing this to herself she is also young and healthy and that glucose tolerance will start to get worse as age creeps on. We shall see how she goes on in 5 yrs. I seriously think by then she will be down to 2 pounds beef max per day.
@@280029are you doing any electrolytes? Calcium? Magnesium. I get what I call the wicked squints if I don't do the salt and magnesium. And how do you describe the angina? And how long have you been doing this way of eating? If you are worried about artery blockage causing angina get a CAC Calciul score to dee if there is any blockage. It may be anxiety masquerading as angina.Also a heavy neat meal makes ne sleepy too.
I find this to be dangerously bad advice. 900 calories on high fat does not give you enough energy or protein for your body function properly. Yes, you might have short term benefits for you personally, but this is not a long term idea that is healthy or beneficial unless you are intense fasting under the careful watch of a doctor for medical reasons like cancer. Nutrition with Judy has covered this topic extensively and Dr Westman also mentions quite often the importance of protein as the building blocks of your body. You cannot deprive your body of protein just to accommodate your fat ratio. And I say this as a high fat carnivore myself (70-80% fat each day for me) . I am not criticizing the high fat diet, but your approach is not one that is healthy or sustainable and could possibly be very dangerous if people take this advice seriously. Please do your research before taking extreme advice like this. It can be very dangerous. Dr Westman and Nutrition with Judy have wonderful explanations of the importance of protein. Protein emphasis doesn’t discount a high fat approach, but you don’t do it at expense of protein and calories.
My experience is not consistent with what the young kid in the interview says. After starting Carnivore all of my metabolic markers improved significantly. I have not slept this well in over 30 years, weight is lowest since my 20’s, not to mention energy levels are through the roof. I will trust the experienced doctor with over 20 years experience with Keto over the kid.
Agree. I unsubscribed from her channel b/c she kept flip-flopping on major issues (for more clicks & and views, no doubt). It started to annoy me, so buh-bye. 👋 🙂
@@MollysMom5 So you unsubscribed because her content was not an echo chamber of the same ideas. The point is to engage with different viewpoints and critique them. She obviously disagreed with a lot her guest said and made that clear.
I have used up 65lbs of stored fat via keto/carnivore... my A1C and blood glucose had been lower, however, I STILL have 100lbs of stored fat to use up. By wearing a CGM, I've noticed higher blood glucose after exercise even keeping consuming carbs under 20g a DAY... SO!!! I'm on my way to a leaner body and can't wait to see my LDL, A1C, blood glucose, HDL, Triglyceride numbers as I approach that goal!! YEAH!!! I'mma never going back to high carbs!!! WHOO HOO!!! carb hunger SUCKS!!! THANK YOU Dr. Eric for helping me save and improve my life for the past 10 YEARS!!!
I think you should invite Bart Kay for a discussion about the Randle-Cycle as talked about in this video. He seems to have the most precise explanation of so-called insulin-resistance. Kane and Feldman know nothing of the sort, it is absolutely contraindicative to suggest people add back carbs just because some numbers on a blood work are higher than such and such thinks they should be, cause reasons. To quote Bart, so what?
Maybe I did not need an animal based diet, but my triglycerides dropped, my HDL doubled and I have lost 12 kilos. Mostly fat, I think. My hscrp dropped to 1 from 3. Fasted glucose stable at 0.83. Of course, my LDL and total cholesterol went up, but I am not so concerned about it...
My takeaway is that glucose levels will be high until the body is down to its optimum weight. Back in the day the term was "walking weight". Now if doing near zero carb and still not losing weight, maybe the body is recycling stuff to do repairs (healing), then the weight comes off and glucose levels come down. Just my take 🙂
My A1c about a month ago registered 5.9 and my fasting glucose was 102. I have been carnivore to very low carb for 16 months. I put on a glucose monitor a week ago at the same time that I went in for a blood draw. My A1c came in yesterday at 5.6. My fasted blood glucose was 99 but on the CGM my blood glucose average is 105 which means my blood glucose hardly fluctuates from the high to the low. So a fasting glucose of 102 when my average is 105 means my glucose is just fine and my A1c at 5.9 may have just been long lived red blood cells throwing off the A1c equation. Things are not always as they appear. By the way, my fasting insulin was 4.2. . Very nice review Dr. Westman. I really appreciate your perspective.
Are you able to calibrate your CGM? If not adjust the CGM scale to your hand held glucose meter. Congratulations on your fasting serum insulin 4.2 you must feel proud of your efforts. 💯👍🏻 I read a comment that stated consuming 0.4 mg/kg I’ve-rmec/ti_n BID (2X) daily diabetes can be mitigated. I found a science paper that strongly indicated that iver:me-ct:in can modulate insulin and it strongly encouraged further research on type II diabetes. So I thought I’d give it a trial run. I’m testing this idea at present, day 8 today. I’ll have my A1c tested again within a couple of months. A few months ago after fasting for 21 days, my A1c was 5.5, down from 6.0, it was higher than that in the past. My waking 12 hours fasting insulin taken at home and consuming 0.25 mg/kg I-v:m once daily has dropped from 115, 100, 97. 85. I started 0.40 mg/kg and I’m back to consecutive readings of 97. Confounding factors is I increased my sodium intake to 6000 mg daily. And that may be messing with my insulin? That’s okay as I have a plan to test high sodium 12000 mg and the response of my blood pressure to it upon waking. The idea is, if my insulin is rock bottom low (fat adapted) and my pancreas is in fantastic condition, the kidneys should dump the sodium quickly into my gut and my blood pressure should resume to normal. I got my results for my Coronary Artery Calcium Score today and it was perfect zero (0) 💯 Take care.
@@Trahloc That’s a 38% reduction, congratulations 💯👍🏻 I had to fast 21 days to break insulin resistance. It damaged my MBR and I lost muscle and gained the fat back. But I’m cool with that trade off, as I’m not diabetic. I fasted because I wanted results now❗️😂 I’m on day 2 of a 3 day fast. My plan going forward is to water/sodium fast 3 days a week, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Take care.
@@lottoretirementstrategist7569 huh, longest I've gone is 7 days but that was a juice fast back before keto got popular and I hated it. I've been meaning to try the water fasting idea. You notice black tea having a negative impact?
@@Trahloc I don’t drink tea now after learning dark tea is high in oxalates. Fast for 3 days and 1/3 of the immune cells are regenerated, preparing your body for infection and your growth hormone levels will increase making it easier to gain muscle mass. Take care.
My glucose went down, .87, but my A1C went from 5.2 to 5.7. All other markers greatly improved, except LDL, which only dropped 1 point. Im ok with this! Ive lost 80 lbs, off bp meds, and no longer pre diabetic. Ive been carnivore 22 months
Of course it is because you’re not taking in any carbohydrates. But eat a potato and you can pretty much bet your glucose will be far higher than it would have been if you ate that same potato before carnivore.
@@tarabooartarmy3654that is true, temporary, and perfectly normal. It is a delayed first pass insulin response and Dr. Ben Bikman explains it beautifully. But your bias wouldn’t let you learn anything; so, just keep making disparaging remarks instead.
Dr. Westman, I am infinity impressed and find it incredibly respectful that your reaction videos include other creators paid content reads. I'm not sure if it's a conscious choice or required by UA-cam or whatever but it just seems so courteous to see you patiently and specifically attentively watching other people's ad reads. I was going to guess at possible reasons or motivations but chose to just take the opportunity to say I think that is wonderful of you to do. As a person who plays for no ads on UA-cam, I think that shows some class, doc.
100% with you. I really wanted to like Bart Kay because of what he brings to the table, but I can’t stand his style. Dr. Westman is enjoyable to listen to
@@ssj_gabe Professor Bart Kay is not really an pompous obnoxious revolting person. it's just a "persona" he assumes because his fanboys love his use of profanities & insults.
@@chuckleezodiac24 First time I saw him ... but then I realised this also. Look at his outfits, it is hilariously amusing, and his way to react also. And his content is (sometimes too compicated for me) great.
Ive been using ketosis for years im extremely active and fit my blood sugar is usually 105 to 115 and goes up to 125 to 135 after hard workouts. Feel perfectly fine 🙂 A1c is 5.5 insulin is 5. I don't believe for a second that the glucose the body produces through gluconeogenesis is harmful to the body!! Love you dr. Westman!
My glucose two months into carnivore started going up from 96-110 to -102-120 to as high as 148, But I noticed it is if I did not walk and after being in the sauna for 30 min at 129 or eating with no activity after eating. Then I researched how saunas affect BG, they make the body release adrenaline and cortisol drive glucagon out of the liver raising the BG within 30min to an hour if is drops back down to 96 now that I walk after the sauna or ride a bike for 10 min it is dropping from 140 to below 90 in 2 hours. N=1 is working for me I am so happy to learn low-carb tools
This is exactly what has happened to me! When first going carnivore my morning fasting blood sugar was nice and low- 4.4 to 4.8 (80-85). After 2 months my morning blood sugar has shot up to pre diabetic range. 5.8 to 6.2 (104-112). Haven’t cheated with food but I notice that my sleep has been not so good. It is a puzzle.
Yes. Inactivity on any way of eating Is not healthful. Exercise and stress can cause glucose to rise as well. It is also possible to eat too much protein. It takes experimenting to find what is right for you. It sounds like that’s what you’re doing. Kudos!
@@margaretgibbs1007 interesting, My sleep has gotten better. I could only sleep for about 2-3 hours before, now I am getting 4-5 hours. it is crazy how much stuff changes from person to person, and the food and medicine industry treats us like we are all the same.
Was diagnosed with prediabetes a month ago, HBA1C 5.8, started intermittent fasting and low carb diet until I was in ketosis , I’m so frustrated that the more I decrease my carb intake the more my fasting glucose measured by CGM is getting worse . When I first started I used to have 40-50 gm of carbs per day, then decreased it to 20 gm per day and as soon as I eat any carbs (coming mainly from berries) my sugar shoots up to above 125 and stays up the whole night if the carb intake was at dinner time . Last night I had some strawberries and nuts for a total of 25 gm of carb and for the whole night my sugar was between 125-130 didn’t go below 125. To be noted that I already lost 4 lbs in 1 month since I started low carb diet/intermittent fasting It’s so frustrating , I’m always in ketosis when I test with urine strip , I really don’t want to go back to eat carbs
I also want to add that my husband also got on the same diet as me as his HBA1C was 6.4 and he’s doing great! Glucose went down to 80’s-90’s after 2 weeks he feels great more energetic
Thanks for the review. I’ve been low carb for over 6 years, and ketovore for 4 years. I switched carnivore 6 weeks ago from a very healthy starting point. A1c was 5.3, and glucose levels were optimal, LDL was 121, no concerns on triglyceride, but HDL was only 59. After six weeks on carnivore, all inflammation markers were optimal, HDL was 88, Triglycerides were 53 but my LDL went to up to 251. Thanks to my studies and research, I was not concerned about that, but my health care provider was. I was already
I'm not a fan of saying if your sugar goes up by a 100points then just consider that to be the new normal. This sounds too much like to a man with a hammer then everything is a nail. It's possible that some people on carnivore end up eating too much protein. The body has no storage form for protein and it can be converted to sugar thru gluconeogenesis. Also, there is such a thing as low carb induced insulin resistance when you've been at it for a while. Whether or not that's harmful, I don't know
Doc, maybe it's not different levels of A1c for non-carb eaters vs carb-eaters, but what do you think of this theory. Very low carb - keto / carnivore diets can create continued stress on the body in some. Result is a rise in cortisol from stress and also a rise as it's an insulin antagonistic hormone. Cortisol stimulates gluconeogenesis and the production of glucose from non-carb sources keeping glucose levels relatively high in some. That's why some see their A1c increase instead of decreasing on a keto/carnivore/ very low carb diet. Eating a small amount of carbs can reduce the bodies need for gluconeogenesis, reduce stress (cortisol) and allow A1c to drop. This is something I experienced and what multiple A1c tests showed over many months of a well formulated keto diet.
Been on carnivore for about a month now. Getting used to it and my glucose is getting better. I have had numbers over 180 after eating in 3 weeks. I’ve a few low numbers in the 40-50’s and I have dropped my tresiba intake from 64 units to 50 and stopped my mealtime insulin. I have dropped my metformin intake from 2000 mg to 1000mg. I haven’t stopped the Jardiance yet. I see my endocrinologist in October for my a1c. Hopefully the results will result in getting off the meds. I tried going keto a few years ago while taking a different med and ended up in the icu with diabetic ketoacidosis. Scary because the doc told my wife if my numbers didn’t change soon, she needed to start calling family members. This far on the carnivore diet, I’m starting to feel better, sleep is getting better and I don’t crave junk processed food anymore. Wish me luck and we’ll see how it goes
I don't follow Lily Kane anymore, because she kept changing what she was promoting. And you don't need to be part of a group to learn what is best for you. Just had my lab work done, and except for a thyroid imbalance, my labs look pretty good. I am waiting to discuss with my internist who will definitely address my elevated cholesterol and LDL, though my HDL and triglycerides are good. I really feel like I need a doc who is more aware of carnivore and ketovore.
What Jay does not realize is just like exercise one is fasting when one is sleeping. So it goes back to lowering one's insulin response by lowering blood glucose, reversing Dr. Roy Taylor's Twin-Cycle Hypothesis. In terms of fat loss, the biggest benefit of both exercise and sleep is putting distance and time between you and the refrigerator door.
Thank you for that new viewpoint of a door that keeps glucose out. I am a type 1 diabetic of 23 and never heard that viewpoint before which makes a lot of sense
Thanks for addressing my two immediate thoughts - how long is the elevated blood glucose observed for, and is that even a bad thing? It seems like a measurement problem- if all your metrics are glucose, then that’s all you base your decisions on. Looking at more metabolic syndrome markers seems more robust to transient effects.
When the cells no longer accept more glucose and shut down, they are not out of order and function poorly. They work perfectly and as they should. So you can't say that the cells don't work. They do exactly what they are supposed to do. The same happens in mitochondria. They also do exactly what they are supposed to do.
@@ultramiddle4991 I think that you yourself have acted badly if your cells no longer accept glucose. It's not the cells fault, it's your fault. You shift the cause and responsibility away from yourself as an excuse that the cells are out of order
@@pirkkarannali Instead of beating each other up, we realize all of us are doing the best we can with what we have and with what we have been taught and shamed for not following . Shifting blame and excuses don’t seem to fit in this presentation as we are here to grow and encourage each other
Been on strict carnivore for almost a year. Recent blood work had my A1C at 5.8 which is higher than when I started 5.6. My glucose fluctuates from 75-110 depending on the time of day and activity. My fasting insulin is 3.8 which is confusing if you compare to the narrative we’ve been taught! I feel amazing, almost at ideal weight 11% BF I’m sleeping very good, and my energy levels are superb! My Cholesterol total is 300c LDL 200, HDL 102, Triglyceride 37, and ratios are 1.9 👍 I think that the NO sugar/carb/Carnivore lifestyle is so new that the research hasn’t been done since long term results haven’t been measured! I think that the glucose levels from glyconeogenisis (sp) is a phenomenon that needs lots more research Typically day… 8-10 eggs after 18 hour fast. 2lb ribeye with 5-6 pieces of bacon with approximately a cube of butter with my steak 🥩 I do not weigh or count calories! First of the year I’m going to modify a bit! I’m a 58 year old male, that lifts weights every day and gets a moderate amount of steps in per day! Best I’ve felt in decades 👍
I have done 3 weeks of carnivore diet tomorrow. I feel great and i can see that the skin problems that i had for many years like seborreia is going away. I train a lot going to a gym 5 times a week and doing spinning lessons 3 times a week. And i have more energy in the training now that before when i was not on canivore diet. And no muscle pain after training like i use to have. What surprises me is that i feel this things after so short time. I am 67 years old an responsible person. So i am seeking information all the time becuse i need to know and understand more about whats it all about and eventuall risks. But i feel great now and its a great feeling. We cant change what as been but we can change what is happening now in our lives.
@HK00088 great, I just turned 60 and will be going in in a couple months for my check up at the VA. Right now I'm on call and it's about 730 am and I will be going into a cramped attic to fix an air handler and also will have to ladder up onto a roof and carry heavy tools with me. No problem at 60. Lots of young guys have a tough time at what I do easily.
Thank you for this discussion! Last night and this morning my blood glucose were higher than normal. I was frustrated and thought maybe the cgm wasn’t working properly. I am not at my optimal weight. I will be patient and “ride it out”, because I’m feeling great otherwise!
Wouldn’t a more accurate metaphor of insulin resistance be that insulin is a key that unlocks the cell door to let glucose in, and that the cell in its wisdom bars the door when it is already full and can’t take anymore glucose?
@Dr. Eric Westman - Adapt Your Life Another great "doctor reacts" video. I think, like you always say, more studies are needed. On this particular issue, I believe that part of the problem could be that the individual might be consuming more protein that they need and perhaps slightly decreasing the amount of protein and slightly increasing the amount of fat might be needed. Again, the higher levels of average blood glucose might not have any significant damaging effects like they would on a person consuming the 200-400 g of carbohydrates that most people do.
I’m getting sick of all these people saying different things!! I’m sticking with De Westman and it seems to work for me. If it’s too restrictive I can’t keep it up and go off plan!! They give me a headache with all their measurements and rules!! Yes I allow myself a small amount of lacto free milk to put in my tea and cream for a coffee each day. I only have 2 meals a day - no carbs at lunch but a little veg with my evening meal and yes I eat cheese. That’s my diet and it works.
Thiamine!!! B1 is necessary to get all energy into the cells. 80% of the body's B1 is in the mitochondria. If you are (and have been chronically) deficient in vitamin B1 (and or B1 cofactors) then you will have a functional deficiency where B1 will be deficient in one or more tissues. Insulin is not the master key to metabolic health it is B1. That is why some people actually do better on some natural carbs because natural carbs are higher in B1. Supplement B1 and B1 cofactors and insulin resistance is gone. My husband modestly cut carbs (but still has soda daily) supplemented B1 and B1 cofactors in 4-6 months was off of all insulin and diabetic meds without hardly any weight loss. Carbs, stress, medications, parasites, illnesses all deplete B1. When carbs are the main caused of depletion of B1 going no carb stops the deficiency (liver and bacon are higher in B1) B1 is necessary to get all energy into the cells fats, sugars and proteins. The kidneys of diabetics waste 300% more B1 than non-diabetics. It is a deficiency. It is not hormonal.
@@nancyknettell2360 thank you for making me look this up. Pork is actually one of the foods highest in thiamine. But of course casual googling will give you search results for plants and omit meats unless you are very specific with wording the question. God bless
I've had this happen with people. I work with, I find that they get stuck doing low carb but they keep themselves in a Randall cycle situation. After explaining the Randall cycle and getting them to have just one energy source I find this fixes is very quickly. I think they're sleep with some magnesium. Some glycine, and some CBD and this also seems to work to minimize the stress for glucose spikes from cortisol because of bad sleep. I also found that people with severe insulin resistance it takes sometimes a year for things to normalize
Meat heavy low carb lowered my insulin and a1c to below 5. My glucose went up to about 100. I believe it is my very high protein diet. Above 250 grams per day. All other markers good. Not worried.
LOL This kid doesn't know what he is talking about. We evolved by eating meat and using fat as a primary fuel source; it is our natural diet. Cabs are toxic in any dose when exogenously consumed. The body can produce whatever glucose it needs through gluconeogenesis and the body only needs 4 grams. Low-carb diets don't make people sick; people eat garbage marketed as keto and that is why they get sick. The reason the mitochondria don't work is that the mitochondria are damaged by glucose. Like everything else in our bodies, ketones are the preferred fuel. Also, we can get into the Randal Cycle and why eating carbs and fat together is bad, and then there is the glycation that happens from eating to many carbs with fat. Carbs are ultimately not a macronutrient we require for optimal health. People are just trying to justify their addiction. As for A1C, it goes up because the red blood cells live longer. Also, the glucose goes up because the body is releasing the glycogen it has stored and is still struggling to convert to burning ketones and is trying to produce glucose. I had this problem for a while and then it stabilized once ketosis kicks in. It could also be that you are just eating to much protein for your physical needs and the excess is being converted into glucose, or eating lean protein which will raise blood sugar also.
One of things that happened to me when starting carnivore was my blood sugar dropping to about 4.5 mmol/L (80mg/dL) and sometimes dropping to mid 3’s. After being a carnivore/ketovore for the last 14 months my blood sugar has stabilized at 5-5.5 mmol/L (90-100mg/dL). It doesn’t really matter what I eat now, even if it is a high fat meal. This tells me that is the normal blood glucose level for me.
Keto A1C 5.6 Lion diet zero carbs A1C 6.8. Blood test on Lion Diet blood in urine. Cholesterol high, tri high, HDL low, LDL high. Dehydrated. Fasting glucose 6.5. So I have started to add small amount of low carbs palm size into my diet to get my blood sugar down. So far it is working. BS 5.0. Down 15kg but still have 10kg of tummy fat not moving so that is why I went Lion. So I would say still insulin resistant. Me, remission type 2 diabetic off all meds for 4 years. It was my Doctor who placed me on a Keto diet and within 3 months my A1C 5.6. 🇦🇺🤷♀️
Started low-carb, then keto and eventually carnivore in 2020. Type 2 diabetic, still on 2,000 mg Metformin to keep my A1C between 5.1-5.3. On three blood pressure meds. Still waiting for my miracle.😢. Best thing that's happened to me is I weigh 119 lbs, 5'3".
3 blood pressure medications at the same time while having a reasonable body weight??? Never heard of that. Maybe 1 is for the blood pressure (ace inhibitor) and 1 is a diuretic? And 1 is a vasodilator? 😢
You do know A1c is just a calculation of your average blood glucose level average. If you get your average every day and it is normal the A1c calculation is incorrect.
@@arwenhardy1995 I’m confused if your A1c is stable at 5.1-3 why aren’t you slowly coming off the Metfirmin? Seriously think about consulting with a keto doctor
@@Damudean "guessing" her doctor gave her the metformin for the daily glucose, not the hba1c, that's just how the person expressed it. We don't know this person, could be liver, kidney, adrenals, and pancreas issues. We don't know their history and it is impossible to diagnose over the internet. Age, race, sleep quality, activity levels, hydration, nutrition, past health history and present health status are all factors.
Could it be possible that some individuals whose carb intake is zero are experiencing an increase in glucose because gluconeogenesis is making up for the deficit? And the way to drive the glucose down is to increase the exogenous glucose acquisition. It sounds counterintuitive but why wouldn't sparing glucose exogenously cause increased endogenous glucose production, using protein as the substrate-in some individuals?
7 year ketogenic, 4 year zero carb. My Bg has increased over the last 2 years. My A1C has gone up from 5.2 to 5.9 since zero carb. In regards to Bg, I am convinced based on my N=1 testing that it is protein causing it. An example why I say this is if I do a water fast or a fat fast, Bg comes down and stays down until I eat protein. Seems my body converts protein to glucose pretty darn easy now a days. Glycoginic???? Only found one doctor ever talking about this. And some say we do not convert protein to energy unless we are starving. In my case, that is simply not true. I would love someone to delve into this. Many people report higher Bg and again, I suspect it is protein causing it. Seem simple to test.
Dr. Westman, my fasting insulin is 4 but my HgbA1c has crept up from 5.6 to 5.8. Mostly my glucose checked by finger stick have been < 100. I have a BMI of 18 and I have been eating low carb since 2016.
I was watching interviews with Dr William Davis speaking about specific bacteria and this type of issue was mentioned. It could just be missing gut flora.
My blood sugars are great and low on carnivore (with some low carb dairy). The blood sugars go up a bit only with exercise. Too bad we can't measure insulin directly.
I fully understand this situation. I have followed a keto diet for six years, having lost 70 lbs. I started the year on a 40 day fast. I came out and immediately began a carnivore diet. I have, however been dealing with with pain in my foot, which has undergone 8 surgeries in the last two years. The condition is not resolved and I continue to have pain. Coming off the fast, my A1C was 6.9. Me endocrinologist put me back on metformin and gliberpiride. My latest A1C was 5.7, but I have seen much of the advances from my last two years disappear. Without the meds, my A1C goes up. The stress causes codisol to produce glucose. I am in a vicious cycle. It's not my diet, but the stress on my body due to pain, that is driving the glucose. Help!
A1c is not what you use to diagnose diabetes. It´s the Oral Glucose Tolerance Test. Many things and conditions can cause your A1c to be too high, for instance: Hb A1c values increase in iron deficiency anemia, splenectomy, alcohol and lead poisoning. Glycosylated hemoglobin decreases in cases of: * hemolytic anemia * Chronic hemorrhage * Pregnancy * Chronic renal failure The presence of Hb F, S + H produces false positive results. The presence of Hb S, C, E, D, G and Lepore's Hb causes false negative results.
Exactly they seem to miss that amino acids loosed the nitrogen to create glucose anf they seem to avoid that fatty acid c15 is missing at cell membrane of the resistance cells.
My A1C went back up to pre-diabetes levels on my 2nd test, up from normal levels of 6 months previous. Turns out I had been consuming more than the max 20g of daily carbs in the form of lactose. Too many white tea's and yogurts daily, more like 40g of carbs. Such a small amount sent glucose way up. When back to strict carnivore and it was like a reboot. Felt the euphoria of growth hormones again, lost another 2kg (of water retention) and it appears my blood pressure has resumed its downward march. I couldn't figure out why progress had stalled before, now I know.
I would like to know whether the people cited who ate keto /very low carb are over/normal or under-weight. I am unintentionally under-weight and I while I am keeping my bg numbers down by my on-going keto diet, I can't get them as low as I feel I deserve! My theory is that I am actually in a pre-diabetic phase of T1. When I had a C-peptide test it showed borderline low insulin alongside borderline highish bg. I do wonder whether undiagnosed incipient T1 is at the root of some / all of the anomalous results discussed here.
I'm really surprised no one is talking about insulin levels here. Those who think they are overeating protein are not really understanding how this works. There are specific markers that can indicate gluconeogenesis. When you have low insulin, you convert protein to glucose to make up for any glucose needs. The only thing that stops this from happening is an increase in insulin. Additionally, a side effect of this is high Triglycerides. So, before saying its gluconeogenesis, make sure you understand which markers indicate this the protein conversion, such as BUN, ATL and AST and then check your fasting insulin/c-peptide I had low insulin, my trigs were over 500, by triggering insulin (with whole milk per Dr. Cywes), Trigs have come down 50% in one week. it does increase my avg Glucose (Stelo CGM) but things are improving because Im intentionally forcing gluconeogenesis to strop for a period of time,. When insulin is raised with low amounts of carbs, Triglycerides are then cleared for energy.
Before carnivore my a1c was 5.2 . but now it was 5.5 and then 5.8 next week after 2 weeks again its 5.6 . i was worried so much.. prediabetic after carnivore.. 😅
My fasting glucose went up on keto, around 110. But no more spikes and crashes. Exercise makes my blood glucose go up no matter if I’m fasting or not. I’m at my ideal weight and feel great.
Dr. Cywes fixed this for me. Cut your protein to minmal 20% or less and up your fat to as close to 80% as you can get. Too much protein. Too much gluconeogenesis of excess ingested proteins. I get my protein from fatty cheese mostly brie and cream cheese. I add at least one egg yolk, I use two, a day, with 2 tablespoon of heavy cream for micronutrients. I fry it in bacon grease for even more fat. Boom glucose down to average 80 a day and wonderful many hour long excusions under 70 for maximum ketosis, human growth homromes, as measure by my new over the counter Stelo CGM.
@@nancyknettell2360 I was doing the same thing until I had my App B tested. It was just under 100, which for my current condition is way too high. I hope to get it down under 65, within 3 months, by lowering the saturated fats I consume. Fingers crossed. Hope your App B remains low and good work!
I like to think of insulin as a Ring master of keys. The keys open the door. Higher glucose or higher heart rate, the ring masters release more keys to open more doors. (To follow your analogy). Muscles are a sponge. More muscle tissue, more sponges for the glucose.
If consuming excessive amounts of flesh protein, in context of lower fat present, denovolypogenesis is a default mechanism to turn protein into glucose, thus raising blood levels.The hormetic cycle of feasting on meat and fat, fasting, refeeding on carbs, fasting etc, has created a mechanism of survival, but with our western world creating 4000 calories a day for every person, imagine if you mismanage just half of that , mostly due to context!
Insulin resistance is a natural expression of the body wisdom..It is a seasonal necessity to gain weight during the summer and harvest fall for preparation for a winter early spring keto/fasting state. However, we are way out of sync. and harmony with nature's cycles and in a constant fed state and the body stores the glucose as fat to prepare for the fasting/famine state.
Dr Westman. I am a 75 year old woman Carnivor Had a mini stroke a month ago Total Cholesterol 9.49. LDL. 7.01. Triglycerides 1.27 A1C 5.7 Dr wants me on statins I am scared !
There is not much to discuss about this matter. When I'm active and even when I go to the sauna, etc., I exercise and move. Then I see that the blood sugar is high. The body produces glucose in response to activity. Sugar is 6-8 mmol. If I don't move and I'm still, the sugar is 3-5 mmol. That is, moving etc. has an effect. Sugar is still high for 3-4 hours after falling asleep at night. This then raises the hb a1c. This is not pathological. At the beginning I was worried about this and I cursed when the glucose was and was high until I realized that...I was really active 30 km brisk walks and strength training, 2-3 hours in the sauna, etc. every day. No wonder the sugar was high all the time as the body's response to the need. So I'm a carnivore. A1c 4,6
I'm on my 7th week Ketovore. Only Carb is Avocado. NOW Stevia has never increased my glucose or gotten me out of ketosis. 80/20-ish. Taking Electrolites. Walking 5 miles daily. No trouble making ketones. All sudden, this week, getting high blood pressure... ?
Insulin isnt the door... Insulin knocks on the door, and if the cell wants glucose the glut4 receptor brings it in... If full, the "door" gets closed behind the glut4 , and locked.
Liver cells are the first ones to become insulin resistant (either because of too much alcohol/fructose or glucose/carb overconsumption). And once the liver cell is insulin resistant, it will not stop gluconeogensis even when insulin is high. This is causing higher blood glucose spikes after high carb meals.
Why is this spoken about so sparingly? I eat carnivore and my blood glucose has risen to near diabetic levels. Its too much protein.......birds chirping.
@@dealwolfstriked272Sparingly ? I figured it out myself just by educating myself on how the body works. You have to count your protein. I experimented with my protein intake for 6 months and figured out what I need according to my weight lifting and other activities. If I get hungry after that since I am super lean now, I will eat oxtails which are super fatty or maybe do a tablespoon of MCT oil. The three pathways for protein are muscle building/repair, out through the kidneys or the liver will use it to make glucose/glycogen. It's different for everybody depending how fat adapted your body is. That is why Carnivores need to eat Fatty Meats... Not lean. Hope this helps. FYI: Dairy can be a problem with many people. I don't use it
@@andredaedone7732 what I meant is there are a few posts here and ther about protein also needing to be controlled but it goes in one ear and out the other for so many.
@@dealwolfstriked272 Oh I see! It is also a good idea to control protein because of the amino acid, glutamine which along with sugar garbage feeds cancer cells.
I’m 90% carnivore and low carb. I wore a CGM continuously for 42 days and HBa1c was 5.3 at the end of the 42 days. However, every time I I do blood work (once per year) at my doctor’s my a1c is around 6. Not sure how that makes sense.
Lowering glucose increases cortisol too much. For those like me who deal with anxiety and even panic attacks, fasting and low carb can cause panic attacks even with no external trigger.
Ultimately it will improve the anxiety but you do go through a sugar withdrawal. Having anxiety is a sugar based phenomenon. The sugar binds to the dopamine receptors and prevents normal dopamine receptor functioning. One the sugar is out of the bood stream the crash happens and you need another hit of sugar to activate the dopamine. Once you have broken the sugar high the anxiety often abates but it does take a bit of time. It was worth the effort though on my part.
A lot of carnivores eat wayyyyy too much protein (and not enough fat), and are actually not in ketosis. The extra protein turns to sugar and that's why their BG and A1C goes up (this has happened to me as well). In fact a lot of carnivores are very dogmatic about their diet and never measure ketones, they don't even realize how important it is to be in ketosis. As for lowering BG by eating carbs, it's obvious that this is done at the cost of spiking insulin - pretty stupid 🤦♀️
Enjoyed. I've seen my data points do some craziness too over the years since AYLA. My last draw showed fasting BG at 103, and A1c at 5.6 (up from 5.2). I decided to pop for a round of CGM sensors to take a peek at the curves. They look boringly flat. I'm still on the Phase 1 food list, for the most part. As directed, I'm still emphasizing protein. I'm guessing that my red cells are a little more long lived on such great substrate. Just more of the same old, same old - practicing and watching. And the doctors always beat me up regarding statins. Nothing new there.
Jay needs to actually learn some physiology before he starts mouthing off. The cells are never ‘broken’… insulin resistance is a natural process designed to protect the cells! It arises because people shove far too much carbohydrate in their face…. And the system overloads…. And then all the downstream problems arise….
Okay, first thing is that normative values all a function of randomized samples how's the population over time. Typically the longer that a particular normative value is assessed, the more accurate it is. However, there are always outliers. When you are not eating carbs, the only other option for elevating glucose levels in your blood substantially high enough impact your blood glucose levels what would be considered a pathologic state is gluconeogenesis. Every individual's nervous system will regulate this differently depending on a whole host of genetic and environmental factors. Because of the rarity of zero carb individuals, there is obviously going to be very little research regarding how this dietary lifestyle effects our bodies natural gluconeogenesis regulatory response in the absence of carbohydrates. To me, this seems like the most plausible explanation for the minority of clients seeing spikes in their blood glucose levels let go into what would be considered prediabetic or diabetic. Therefore, it is my hypothesis that even though these individuals are seeing high glucose levels that this will not lead to increased insulin resistance because that glucose level is directly regulated internally by your body's nervous system, which knows a whole lot more about your body then the smartest doctor you'll ever find! Another potential hypothesis to the situation is that the individual's body is working harder at producing sugars from protein because it is trying to maintain the body's fat energy storage levels. So, these elevated glucose levels may also be indicating that you are getting close to losing fat, which would be a good sign! Secondly, in response to those who have elevated a1c levels, you must understand that the formula for determining A1C is directly impacted by the longevity of your red blood cells. This is because a normative value that is derived from the general populace is substituted into this calculation. Your individual red blood cell longevity is not factored in. Therefore, if you are consuming a diet that is promoting increased longevity in your red blood cells and you have your A1C tested, your values will be significantly skewed. Hope that helps!
I think this ‘numbers’ problem depends on where you live. In UK the blood testing and monitoring numbers is not as common as in US. I don’t measure anything and stay away from doctors (getting to see one in UK is not easy anyway). When I transitioned into carnivore I did not feel great, but was still better than on a standard diet. It took many months to get my energy from the fat. So I trusted the low carb/ carnivore youtube doctors and now feel great on fat and meat. Who cares what my numbers are?
I have been type 2.5 diabetic for about 20 years. I have never been overweight- 145 pounds. I have Ben doing low carb for 15 years. I am on 4 metformin per day and also Lantus solostar at 8 ml. I was on just metformin for many years. Then A1c was high so they put me on Lantus solostar 3 ml. Over the years I have had to inscrease now to 8. Also my A1c has increased from 6.8 to 7.8 now. Dr. Westman did not say what to do with these type of people. I am 80 years old and have lots of energy and feel great. My fasting glucose is usually 135 to 150.
Well, what if you could increase the glucose the cell needs ? Then it would reduce insulin resistance. But nobody in the carnivore / keto/ insulin resistance community talks about this. Is it possible? It is. Aerobic exercise increases the mitochondria that can make use of this glucose and turn it into muscular energy output. The more you exercise (particularly in zone 2, for longer periods of time) the more this occurs. Yet people switch to full carnivore, lose weight (with little or no exercise) and think they are fit again. All they have done is shut down one metabolic pathway that nature gave us, in addition to the ketogenic pathway.
This shows how flawed the reference ranges are and that you don't "eat for the blood test marker" - if you understand that the liver makes the glucose you need, then you won't frame it as he did " our body is making too much sugar" - they clearly don't get it - just sayin....
On keto for four months. Lost 25 pounds (25 more to go). My A1c went down a from 6 to only 5.7. Finding my fasting glucose is still in the prediabetic range. How long did it take people to see their fasting glucose levels return to normal? How many people found that this slight elevation is their new normal like some of Dr. Westin's patients?
While i hear people say carbohydrates i wonder why.. just say when we provide sources of glocuse.. this help people think about this is onw energy source there is ketones and fatty acids..
I've watched a few of Jay Feldman's videos and I still can't understand the context behind the approach he's advocating. It's certainly not an approach for a former type 2 diabetic like me.
I stopped watching her a long time ago. She seems really incorrect in much of what she says as do most her guests. Not worth my brain power to watch her.
Apo B, a part of the LDL, definitely matters in most people. Please make sure to know what your Apo B level is for your specific condition. I wish everyone making videos would always mention Apo B. Maybe then those who watch and support their agenda will take a deeper dive into Apo B education.
Simple. Had this problem. Dr Cywes fixed this for me. Even though I have been carnivore for over 2 years. Not fat adapted yet. My blood sugars were around 103. Not necesaroly in ketosis even if I was always under 20 grams.
If their blood glucose is too high, they are eating too much protein. Body can't store protein. Gluconeogenesis from too much excess protein. Body can't store protein and puts it into glycogen and glucose. Barely 20% protein 80+ fat mostly from fatty cheese like cream cheese. Make sure you have at least one egg yolk a day for micronutrients.
Now totally fat adapted. Living on 800 calories easily. Average blood sugar 79 as measured on the new Stelo over the counter Continuous Glucose Monitor with hours below 70 for maximum ketosis, human growth hormone, and fat burning.
Plenty of energy. Back to the gym. Rotary trainer for over 20 minutes. Lifting weights heavier than I ever have. Losing weight again after a big stall. But I was eating lots of meat back then.
Don't fall for the carbs bait. Carbs are just plain metabolic poison. The guy talking to Lily is not a scientist or a doctor. He is making stuff up with no idea of what he is talking about. Just speculation. How do I know? I am a Metabolic Health Research Engineering Scientist for over 30 years. Dr. Westman is brilliant, a real doctor, doing research on this issue treating real patients. He is being very diplomatic here. Dr. Cywes who helped me get to the root of the problem is also a doctor treating metabolic health issues and insulin resistance and he was the one who figured this out for me based on real deep dive testing and seeing what my glucose numbers. It was he who assured me that noone knows how much protein we need . We have enough bad protein in the form of precancer cells and misformed mitochondria wondering around in our bodies. And egg has enough nutrition to grow a chicken. If you are not eating sugar you are not losing that much protein to sugar inflammation damage.
Eat much more Saturated Fat and way much less protein to solve this problem
Oh wow I literally just commented exactly this about gluconeogenesis and excess protein
@@unleashed3074 great minds think alike. Have you heard of or tried the new over the counter Continuous Glucose Monitor Stelo? It was a hame changer for me to see what my glucose does after a meal an how fast ot drops. Really showed me that what Dr. Cywes wanted me too do was working brilliantly in real time.
I got ripped 30yrs ago going down to 900 calories and only 60gms protein. I lost no muscle whatsoever at this low protein amount. We are being forced a lie IMO about this protein protein protein push nowadays. Insulin is death....an old bodybuilder guru from 30yrs ago would always say that. Insulin is death aka the true secret to staying young and healthy is to keep insulin as low as possible. Then you have steak and butter gal eating 5 pounds of beef. Forgetting about her extreme beef aversion from doing this to herself she is also young and healthy and that glucose tolerance will start to get worse as age creeps on. We shall see how she goes on in 5 yrs. I seriously think by then she will be down to 2 pounds beef max per day.
@@280029are you doing any electrolytes? Calcium? Magnesium. I get what I call the wicked squints if I don't do the salt and magnesium. And how do you describe the angina? And how long have you been doing this way of eating? If you are worried about artery blockage causing angina get a CAC Calciul score to dee if there is any blockage. It may be anxiety masquerading as angina.Also a heavy neat meal makes ne sleepy too.
I find this to be dangerously bad advice. 900 calories on high fat does not give you enough energy or protein for your body function properly. Yes, you might have short term benefits for you personally, but this is not a long term idea that is healthy or beneficial unless you are intense fasting under the careful watch of a doctor for medical reasons like cancer.
Nutrition with Judy has covered this topic extensively and Dr Westman also mentions quite often the importance of protein as the building blocks of your body. You cannot deprive your body of protein just to accommodate your fat ratio. And I say this as a high fat carnivore myself (70-80% fat each day for me) .
I am not criticizing the high fat diet, but your approach is not one that is healthy or sustainable and could possibly be very dangerous if people take this advice seriously.
Please do your research before taking extreme advice like this. It can be very dangerous. Dr Westman and Nutrition with Judy have wonderful explanations of the importance of protein. Protein emphasis doesn’t discount a high fat approach, but you don’t do it at expense of protein and calories.
My experience is not consistent with what the young kid in the interview says. After starting Carnivore all of my metabolic markers improved significantly. I have not slept this well in over 30 years, weight is lowest since my 20’s, not to mention energy levels are through the roof. I will trust the experienced doctor with over 20 years experience with Keto over the kid.
What did you eat before?
Ok old man
Agree. I unsubscribed from her channel b/c she kept flip-flopping on major issues (for more clicks & and views, no doubt). It started to annoy me, so buh-bye. 👋 🙂
@@MollysMom5 So you unsubscribed because her content was not an echo chamber of the same ideas. The point is to engage with different viewpoints and critique them. She obviously disagreed with a lot her guest said and made that clear.
@jonathankoch3049 My YT account, my choice. I don't owe an explanation to some stranger on the internet (i.e., YOU). 🙃
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I have used up 65lbs of stored fat via keto/carnivore... my A1C and blood glucose had been lower, however, I STILL have 100lbs of stored fat to use up. By wearing a CGM, I've noticed higher blood glucose after exercise even keeping consuming carbs under 20g a DAY... SO!!! I'm on my way to a leaner body and can't wait to see my LDL, A1C, blood glucose, HDL, Triglyceride numbers as I approach that goal!! YEAH!!! I'mma never going back to high carbs!!! WHOO HOO!!! carb hunger SUCKS!!! THANK YOU Dr. Eric for helping me save and improve my life for the past 10 YEARS!!!
I think you should invite Bart Kay for a discussion about the Randle-Cycle as talked about in this video. He seems to have the most precise explanation of so-called insulin-resistance. Kane and Feldman know nothing of the sort, it is absolutely contraindicative to suggest people add back carbs just because some numbers on a blood work are higher than such and such thinks they should be, cause reasons. To quote Bart, so what?
Maybe I did not need an animal based diet, but my triglycerides dropped, my HDL doubled and I have lost 12 kilos. Mostly fat, I think. My hscrp dropped to 1 from 3. Fasted glucose stable at 0.83.
Of course, my LDL and total cholesterol went up, but I am not so concerned about it...
My takeaway is that glucose levels will be high until the body is down to its optimum weight. Back in the day the term was "walking weight". Now if doing near zero carb and still not losing weight, maybe the body is recycling stuff to do repairs (healing), then the weight comes off and glucose levels come down. Just my take 🙂
My A1c about a month ago registered 5.9 and my fasting glucose was 102. I have been carnivore to very low carb for 16 months. I put on a glucose monitor a week ago at the same time that I went in for a blood draw. My A1c came in yesterday at 5.6. My fasted blood glucose was 99 but on the CGM my blood glucose average is 105 which means my blood glucose hardly fluctuates from the high to the low. So a fasting glucose of 102 when my average is 105 means my glucose is just fine and my A1c at 5.9 may have just been long lived red blood cells throwing off the A1c equation. Things are not always as they appear. By the way, my fasting insulin was 4.2. . Very nice review Dr. Westman. I really appreciate your perspective.
4.2 insulin is the real number to care about there. Congratulations, I was at 22 last test but that's from a high of 58.
Are you able to calibrate your CGM? If not adjust the CGM scale to your hand held glucose meter.
Congratulations on your fasting serum insulin 4.2 you must feel proud of your efforts. 💯👍🏻
I read a comment that stated consuming 0.4 mg/kg I’ve-rmec/ti_n BID (2X) daily diabetes can be mitigated.
I found a science paper that strongly indicated that iver:me-ct:in can modulate insulin and it strongly encouraged further research on type II diabetes. So I thought I’d give it a trial run.
I’m testing this idea at present, day 8 today. I’ll have my A1c tested again within a couple of months. A few months ago after fasting for 21 days, my A1c was 5.5, down from 6.0, it was higher than that in the past.
My waking 12 hours fasting insulin taken at home and consuming 0.25 mg/kg I-v:m once daily has dropped from 115, 100, 97. 85. I started 0.40 mg/kg and I’m back to consecutive readings of 97.
Confounding factors is I increased my sodium intake to 6000 mg daily. And that may be messing with my insulin?
That’s okay as I have a plan to test high sodium 12000 mg and the response of my blood pressure to it upon waking.
The idea is, if my insulin is rock bottom low (fat adapted) and my pancreas is in fantastic condition, the kidneys should dump the sodium quickly into my gut and my blood pressure should resume to normal.
I got my results for my Coronary Artery Calcium Score today and it was perfect zero (0) 💯
Take care.
@@Trahloc That’s a 38% reduction, congratulations 💯👍🏻
I had to fast 21 days to break insulin resistance. It damaged my MBR and I lost muscle and gained the fat back. But I’m cool with that trade off, as I’m not diabetic. I fasted because I wanted results now❗️😂
I’m on day 2 of a 3 day fast. My plan going forward is to water/sodium fast 3 days a week, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.
Take care.
@@lottoretirementstrategist7569 huh, longest I've gone is 7 days but that was a juice fast back before keto got popular and I hated it. I've been meaning to try the water fasting idea. You notice black tea having a negative impact?
@@Trahloc I don’t drink tea now after learning dark tea is high in oxalates.
Fast for 3 days and 1/3 of the immune cells are regenerated, preparing your body for infection and your growth hormone levels will increase making it easier to gain muscle mass.
Take care.
My glucose went down, .87, but my A1C went from 5.2 to 5.7. All other markers greatly improved, except LDL, which only dropped 1 point. Im ok with this! Ive lost 80 lbs, off bp meds, and no longer pre diabetic. Ive been carnivore 22 months
My glucose has never been better than is it on carnivore.
Of course it is because you’re not taking in any carbohydrates. But eat a potato and you can pretty much bet your glucose will be far higher than it would have been if you ate that same potato before carnivore.
get a real oral gulucose intolerance test and boom.😂
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@@tarabooartarmy3654that is true, temporary, and perfectly normal. It is a delayed first pass insulin response and Dr. Ben Bikman explains it beautifully. But your bias wouldn’t let you learn anything; so, just keep making disparaging remarks instead.
Dr. Westman, I am infinity impressed and find it incredibly respectful that your reaction videos include other creators paid content reads. I'm not sure if it's a conscious choice or required by UA-cam or whatever but it just seems so courteous to see you patiently and specifically attentively watching other people's ad reads.
I was going to guess at possible reasons or motivations but chose to just take the opportunity to say I think that is wonderful of you to do. As a person who plays for no ads on UA-cam, I think that shows some class, doc.
100% with you.
I really wanted to like Bart Kay because of what he brings to the table, but I can’t stand his style. Dr. Westman is enjoyable to listen to
@@ssj_gabe Absolutely!
@@ssj_gabe Professor Bart Kay is not really an pompous obnoxious revolting person. it's just a "persona" he assumes because his fanboys love his use of profanities & insults.
@@chuckleezodiac24 I’m aware, I just don’t like it
@@chuckleezodiac24 First time I saw him ... but then I realised this also. Look at his outfits, it is hilariously amusing, and his way to react also. And his content is (sometimes too compicated for me) great.
Ive been using ketosis for years im extremely active and fit my blood sugar is usually 105 to 115 and goes up to 125 to 135 after hard workouts. Feel perfectly fine 🙂 A1c is 5.5 insulin is 5. I don't believe for a second that the glucose the body produces through gluconeogenesis is harmful to the body!! Love you dr. Westman!
My glucose two months into carnivore started going up from 96-110 to -102-120 to as high as 148, But I noticed it is if I did not walk and after being in the sauna for 30 min at 129 or eating with no activity after eating. Then I researched how saunas affect BG, they make the body release adrenaline and cortisol drive glucagon out of the liver raising the BG within 30min to an hour if is drops back down to 96 now that I walk after the sauna or ride a bike for 10 min it is dropping from 140 to below 90 in 2 hours. N=1 is working for me I am so happy to learn low-carb tools
This is exactly what has happened to me! When first going carnivore my morning fasting blood sugar was nice and low- 4.4 to 4.8 (80-85). After 2 months my morning blood sugar has shot up to pre diabetic range. 5.8 to 6.2 (104-112). Haven’t cheated with food but I notice that my sleep has been not so good. It is a puzzle.
Yes. Inactivity on any way of eating Is not healthful. Exercise and stress can cause glucose to rise as well. It is also possible to eat too much protein. It takes experimenting to find what is right for you. It sounds like that’s what you’re doing. Kudos!
@@margaretgibbs1007 interesting, My sleep has gotten better. I could only sleep for about 2-3 hours before, now I am getting 4-5 hours. it is crazy how much stuff changes from person to person, and the food and medicine industry treats us like we are all the same.
If they want to make that claim. Then show me 1 person who became diabetic eating only meat. I will wait
Diabetes is caused by fat , glucose in the symptom. Keto is NOT the answer. When you have a Ph.D in insulin resistance, then come and talk to me.
@randall1715 I don't believe you and I don't care what the indoctrinated PhD's say with their bunk bought and paid for "science"
The elevated A1C and fasting glucose in the context of low carb is important to me. I fit the LMHR profile. Thanks for discussing this.
Was diagnosed with prediabetes a month ago, HBA1C 5.8, started intermittent fasting and low carb diet until I was in ketosis , I’m so frustrated that the more I decrease my carb intake the more my fasting glucose measured by CGM is getting worse . When I first started I used to have 40-50 gm of carbs per day, then decreased it to 20 gm per day and as soon as I eat any carbs (coming mainly from berries) my sugar shoots up to above 125 and stays up the whole night if the carb intake was at dinner time . Last night I had some strawberries and nuts for a total of 25 gm of carb and for the whole night my sugar was between 125-130 didn’t go below 125.
To be noted that I already lost 4 lbs in 1 month since I started low carb diet/intermittent fasting
It’s so frustrating , I’m always in ketosis when I test with urine strip , I really don’t want to go back to eat carbs
I also want to add that my husband also got on the same diet as me as his HBA1C was 6.4 and he’s doing great! Glucose went down to 80’s-90’s after 2 weeks he feels great more energetic
Thanks for the review. I’ve been low carb for over 6 years, and ketovore for 4 years. I switched carnivore 6 weeks ago from a very healthy starting point. A1c was 5.3, and glucose levels were optimal, LDL was 121, no concerns on triglyceride, but HDL was only 59.
After six weeks on carnivore, all inflammation markers were optimal, HDL was 88, Triglycerides were 53 but my LDL went to up to 251. Thanks to my studies and research, I was not concerned about that, but my health care provider was.
I was already
I have heard soo many people saying low carb and carnivore has improved their sleep.
love hearing how no sugar makes your sugar spike.
I'm not a fan of saying if your sugar goes up by a 100points then just consider that to be the new normal. This sounds too much like to a man with a hammer then everything is a nail.
It's possible that some people on carnivore end up eating too much protein. The body has no storage form for protein and it can be converted to sugar thru gluconeogenesis.
Also, there is such a thing as low carb induced insulin resistance when you've been at it for a while. Whether or not that's harmful, I don't know
I was looking for this to be said on this video. From my experience, more fat may be needed to lower the insulin spikes.
Doc, maybe it's not different levels of A1c for non-carb eaters vs carb-eaters, but what do you think of this theory. Very low carb - keto / carnivore diets can create continued stress on the body in some. Result is a rise in cortisol from stress and also a rise as it's an insulin antagonistic hormone. Cortisol stimulates gluconeogenesis and the production of glucose from non-carb sources keeping glucose levels relatively high in some. That's why some see their A1c increase instead of decreasing on a keto/carnivore/ very low carb diet. Eating a small amount of carbs can reduce the bodies need for gluconeogenesis, reduce stress (cortisol) and allow A1c to drop. This is something I experienced and what multiple A1c tests showed over many months of a well formulated keto diet.
Been on carnivore for about a month now. Getting used to it and my glucose is getting better. I have had numbers over 180 after eating in 3 weeks. I’ve a few low numbers in the 40-50’s and I have dropped my tresiba intake from 64 units to 50 and stopped my mealtime insulin. I have dropped my metformin intake from 2000 mg to 1000mg. I haven’t stopped the Jardiance yet. I see my endocrinologist in October for my a1c. Hopefully the results will result in getting off the meds. I tried going keto a few years ago while taking a different med and ended up in the icu with diabetic ketoacidosis. Scary because the doc told my wife if my numbers didn’t change soon, she needed to start calling family members. This far on the carnivore diet, I’m starting to feel better, sleep is getting better and I don’t crave junk processed food anymore. Wish me luck and we’ll see how it goes
I don't follow Lily Kane anymore, because she kept changing what she was promoting. And you don't need to be part of a group to learn what is best for you. Just had my lab work done, and except for a thyroid imbalance, my labs look pretty good. I am waiting to discuss with my internist who will definitely address my elevated cholesterol and LDL, though my HDL and triglycerides are good.
I really feel like I need a doc who is more aware of carnivore and ketovore.
I’ve shared the link to the challenge page on your website, on my Facebook page. The challenge is truly a gift. Thank you!
What Jay does not realize is just like exercise one is fasting when one is sleeping. So it goes back to lowering one's insulin response by lowering blood glucose, reversing Dr. Roy Taylor's Twin-Cycle Hypothesis. In terms of fat loss, the biggest benefit of both exercise and sleep is putting distance and time between you and the refrigerator door.
Thank you for that new viewpoint of a door that keeps glucose out. I am a type 1 diabetic of 23 and never heard that viewpoint before which makes a lot of sense
As someone who was diabetic previously, if my fat isn’t high enough then my glucose can go up, especially if I’m over eating for my body protein
Your fasting glucose or postprandial?
Thanks for addressing my two immediate thoughts - how long is the elevated blood glucose observed for, and is that even a bad thing? It seems like a measurement problem- if all your metrics are glucose, then that’s all you base your decisions on. Looking at more metabolic syndrome markers seems more robust to transient effects.
Thank you, Dr Westman.
When the cells no longer accept more glucose and shut down, they are not out of order and function poorly. They work perfectly and as they should. So you can't say that the cells don't work. They do exactly what they are supposed to do. The same happens in mitochondria. They also do exactly what they are supposed to do.
Epic paradigm shift
@@ultramiddle4991 I think that you yourself have acted badly if your cells no longer accept glucose. It's not the cells fault, it's your fault. You shift the cause and responsibility away from yourself as an excuse that the cells are out of order
@@pirkkarannali Instead of beating each other up, we realize all of us are doing the best we can with what we have and with what we have been taught and shamed for not following . Shifting blame and excuses don’t seem to fit in this presentation as we are here to grow and encourage each other
@@ultramiddle4991Hear Hear 🎉😊
Been on strict carnivore for almost a year. Recent blood work had my A1C at 5.8 which is higher than when I started 5.6. My glucose fluctuates from 75-110 depending on the time of day and activity. My fasting insulin is 3.8 which is confusing if you compare to the narrative we’ve been taught! I feel amazing, almost at ideal weight 11% BF I’m sleeping very good, and my energy levels are superb! My Cholesterol total is 300c LDL 200, HDL 102, Triglyceride 37, and ratios are 1.9 👍
I think that the NO sugar/carb/Carnivore lifestyle is so new that the research hasn’t been done since long term results haven’t been measured!
I think that the glucose levels from glyconeogenisis (sp) is a phenomenon that needs lots more research
Typically day…
8-10 eggs after 18 hour fast.
2lb ribeye with 5-6 pieces of bacon with approximately a cube of butter with my steak 🥩
I do not weigh or count calories!
First of the year I’m going to modify a bit!
I’m a 58 year old male, that lifts weights every day and gets a moderate amount of steps in per day!
Best I’ve felt in decades 👍
Dr. W is the bomb!!! ❤
I have done 3 weeks of carnivore diet tomorrow.
I feel great and i can see that the skin problems that i had for many years like seborreia is going away.
I train a lot going to a gym 5 times a week and doing spinning lessons 3 times a week.
And i have more energy in the training now that before when i was not on canivore diet.
And no muscle pain after training like i use to have.
What surprises me is that i feel this things after so short time.
I am 67 years old an responsible person.
So i am seeking information all the time becuse i need to know and understand more about whats it all about and eventuall risks.
But i feel great now and its a great feeling.
We cant change what as been but we can change what is happening now in our lives.
Yep, A1C has been up there for a long time. Glucose always around 100 also. Cholesterol between 250 and 300. For years
Hello Robert
Im type 2 diabetic
My a1c is 10.2 it was high for last few years since 2017. Im on carnivore diet now . How are you doing now?
@HK00088 great, I just turned 60 and will be going in in a couple months for my check up at the VA. Right now I'm on call and it's about 730 am and I will be going into a cramped attic to fix an air handler and also will have to ladder up onto a roof and carry heavy tools with me. No problem at 60. Lots of young guys have a tough time at what I do easily.
Thank you for this discussion! Last night and this morning my blood glucose were higher than normal. I was frustrated and thought maybe the cgm wasn’t working properly. I am not at my optimal weight. I will be patient and “ride it out”, because I’m feeling great otherwise!
Wish there had been a discussion of the Dawn Effect.
Wouldn’t a more accurate metaphor of insulin resistance be that insulin is a key that unlocks the cell door to let glucose in, and that the cell in its wisdom bars the door when it is already full and can’t take anymore glucose?
@Dr. Eric Westman - Adapt Your Life Another great "doctor reacts" video. I think, like you always say, more studies are needed. On this particular issue, I believe that part of the problem could be that the individual might be consuming more protein that they need and perhaps slightly decreasing the amount of protein and slightly increasing the amount of fat might be needed. Again, the higher levels of average blood glucose might not have any significant damaging effects like they would on a person consuming the 200-400 g of carbohydrates that most people do.
I’m getting sick of all these people saying different things!! I’m sticking with De Westman and it seems to work for me. If it’s too restrictive I can’t keep it up and go off plan!! They give me a headache with all their measurements and rules!! Yes I allow myself a small amount of lacto free milk to put in my tea and cream for a coffee each day. I only have 2 meals a day - no carbs at lunch but a little veg with my evening meal and yes I eat cheese. That’s my diet and it works.
Thiamine!!!
B1 is necessary to get all energy into the cells.
80% of the body's B1 is in the mitochondria.
If you are (and have been chronically) deficient in vitamin B1 (and or B1 cofactors) then you will have a functional deficiency where B1 will be deficient in one or more tissues.
Insulin is not the master key to metabolic health it is B1.
That is why some people actually do better on some natural carbs because natural carbs are higher in B1.
Supplement B1 and B1 cofactors and insulin resistance is gone.
My husband modestly cut carbs (but still has soda daily) supplemented B1 and B1 cofactors in 4-6 months was off of all insulin and diabetic meds without hardly any weight loss.
Carbs, stress, medications, parasites, illnesses all deplete B1.
When carbs are the main caused of depletion of B1 going no carb stops the deficiency (liver and bacon are higher in B1)
B1 is necessary to get all energy into the cells fats, sugars and proteins.
The kidneys of diabetics waste 300% more B1 than non-diabetics.
It is a deficiency.
It is not hormonal.
You might be onto something.
I fully agree 👍
Actually there is no B1 in Carbohydrates. Only in animal products.
@@nancyknettell2360 thank you for making me look this up. Pork is actually one of the foods highest in thiamine. But of course casual googling will give you search results for plants and omit meats unless you are very specific with wording the question.
God bless
Could you please explain B1 cofactors, please? Is this in addition to a regular B1 supplement?
I've had this happen with people. I work with, I find that they get stuck doing low carb but they keep themselves in a Randall cycle situation. After explaining the Randall cycle and getting them to have just one energy source I find this fixes is very quickly. I think they're sleep with some magnesium. Some glycine, and some CBD and this also seems to work to minimize the stress for glucose spikes from cortisol because of bad sleep. I also found that people with severe insulin resistance it takes sometimes a year for things to normalize
I would add more fat before I'd add carbs to see if that would neutralize the protein from raising blood sugar/A1C
Meat heavy low carb lowered my insulin and a1c to below 5. My glucose went up to about 100. I believe it is my very high protein diet. Above 250 grams per day. All other markers good. Not worried.
@@johnalice2657 yes cut the protein and up the saturated fat. I am at 80% fat and 20% protein.
LOL This kid doesn't know what he is talking about. We evolved by eating meat and using fat as a primary fuel source; it is our natural diet. Cabs are toxic in any dose when exogenously consumed. The body can produce whatever glucose it needs through gluconeogenesis and the body only needs 4 grams. Low-carb diets don't make people sick; people eat garbage marketed as keto and that is why they get sick.
The reason the mitochondria don't work is that the mitochondria are damaged by glucose. Like everything else in our bodies, ketones are the preferred fuel. Also, we can get into the Randal Cycle and why eating carbs and fat together is bad, and then there is the glycation that happens from eating to many carbs with fat. Carbs are ultimately not a macronutrient we require for optimal health. People are just trying to justify their addiction.
As for A1C, it goes up because the red blood cells live longer. Also, the glucose goes up because the body is releasing the glycogen it has stored and is still struggling to convert to burning ketones and is trying to produce glucose. I had this problem for a while and then it stabilized once ketosis kicks in. It could also be that you are just eating to much protein for your physical needs and the excess is being converted into glucose, or eating lean protein which will raise blood sugar also.
lmao. Tom Brady is 80% Plant-Based. if carbs are toxic at any dose, how come he's not dead? why do the Tsimane have the healthiest hearts on Earth?
Could the elevated glucose on carnivore be from too much protein?
One of things that happened to me when starting carnivore was my blood sugar dropping to about 4.5 mmol/L (80mg/dL) and sometimes dropping to mid 3’s.
After being a carnivore/ketovore for the last 14 months my blood sugar has stabilized at 5-5.5 mmol/L (90-100mg/dL). It doesn’t really matter what I eat now, even if it is a high fat meal. This tells me that is the normal blood glucose level for me.
Keto A1C 5.6 Lion diet zero carbs A1C 6.8. Blood test on Lion Diet blood in urine. Cholesterol high, tri high, HDL low, LDL high. Dehydrated. Fasting glucose 6.5. So I have started to add small amount of low carbs palm size into my diet to get my blood sugar down. So far it is working. BS 5.0. Down 15kg but still have 10kg of tummy fat not moving so that is why I went Lion. So I would say still insulin resistant. Me, remission type 2 diabetic off all meds for 4 years. It was my Doctor who placed me on a Keto diet and within 3 months my A1C 5.6. 🇦🇺🤷♀️
Started low-carb, then keto and eventually carnivore in 2020. Type 2 diabetic, still on 2,000 mg Metformin to keep my A1C between 5.1-5.3. On three blood pressure meds. Still waiting for my miracle.😢. Best thing that's happened to me is I weigh 119 lbs, 5'3".
3 blood pressure medications at the same time while having a reasonable body weight??? Never heard of that. Maybe 1 is for the blood pressure (ace inhibitor) and 1 is a diuretic? And 1 is a vasodilator? 😢
You do know A1c is just a calculation of your average blood glucose level average. If you get your average every day and it is normal the A1c calculation is incorrect.
Perhaps consult someone like Dr Cywes. I think it likely that with the right help you can wean off the drugs
@@arwenhardy1995 I’m confused if your A1c is stable at 5.1-3 why aren’t you slowly coming off the Metfirmin?
Seriously think about consulting with a keto doctor
@@Damudean "guessing" her doctor gave her the metformin for the daily glucose, not the hba1c, that's just how the person expressed it. We don't know this person, could be liver, kidney, adrenals, and pancreas issues. We don't know their history and it is impossible to diagnose over the internet. Age, race, sleep quality, activity levels, hydration, nutrition, past health history and present health status are all factors.
Mine rose from 5.1 to 5.4 and I'm OK with that
Could it be possible that some individuals whose carb intake is zero are experiencing an increase in glucose because gluconeogenesis is making up for the deficit? And the way to drive the glucose down is to increase the exogenous glucose acquisition. It sounds counterintuitive but why wouldn't sparing glucose exogenously cause increased endogenous glucose production, using protein as the substrate-in some individuals?
Dr. Eric Westman - Adapt Your Life, great video keep up the great content
7 year ketogenic, 4 year zero carb. My Bg has increased over the last 2 years. My A1C has gone up from 5.2 to 5.9 since zero carb. In regards to Bg, I am convinced based on my N=1 testing that it is protein causing it. An example why I say this is if I do a water fast or a fat fast, Bg comes down and stays down until I eat protein. Seems my body converts protein to glucose pretty darn easy now a days. Glycoginic???? Only found one doctor ever talking about this. And some say we do not convert protein to energy unless we are starving. In my case, that is simply not true. I would love someone to delve into this. Many people report higher Bg and again, I suspect it is protein causing it. Seem simple to test.
Can be possible N=1 is key
Dr. Westman, my fasting insulin is 4 but my HgbA1c has crept up from 5.6 to 5.8. Mostly my glucose checked by finger stick have been < 100. I have a BMI of 18 and I have been eating low carb since 2016.
I was watching interviews with Dr William Davis speaking about specific bacteria and this type of issue was mentioned. It could just be missing gut flora.
My blood sugars are great and low on carnivore (with some low carb dairy). The blood sugars go up a bit only with exercise.
Too bad we can't measure insulin directly.
I fully understand this situation. I have followed a keto diet for six years, having lost 70 lbs. I started the year on a 40 day fast. I came out and immediately began a carnivore diet. I have, however been dealing with with pain in my foot, which has undergone 8 surgeries in the last two years. The condition is not resolved and I continue to have pain. Coming off the fast, my A1C was 6.9. Me endocrinologist put me back on metformin and gliberpiride. My latest A1C was 5.7, but I have seen much of the advances from my last two years disappear. Without the meds, my A1C goes up. The stress causes codisol to produce glucose. I am in a vicious cycle. It's not my diet, but the stress on my body due to pain, that is driving the glucose. Help!
Your challenge sounds awesome!
To fix your mitochondria, you need to provide it with clean fuel. Which rules out glucose from carb consumption right away.
You've been taught the opposite of reality. Jay Feldman has a podcast episode about this. Look up CO2 from glucose as a cellular signaller
@@SullivanKelly85 unfortunately nit relevant. Don't listen to carb addicts, they are all biased
A1c is not what you use to diagnose diabetes. It´s the Oral Glucose Tolerance Test. Many things and conditions can cause your A1c to be too high, for instance: Hb A1c values increase in iron deficiency anemia, splenectomy, alcohol and lead poisoning.
Glycosylated hemoglobin decreases in cases of:
* hemolytic anemia
* Chronic hemorrhage
* Pregnancy
* Chronic renal failure
The presence of Hb F, S + H produces false positive results.
The presence of Hb S, C, E, D, G and Lepore's Hb causes false negative results.
My glucose went up on carnivore. Lowering protein and increasing fat will lower glucose.
Exactly they seem to miss that amino acids loosed the nitrogen to create glucose anf they seem to avoid that fatty acid c15 is missing at cell membrane of the resistance cells.
I teel them. This at least in 1611 to have the fatty acids in the evening lamb and beef to get good fatty acids to repaid the cell membrane
By how much, to what level and how significant was it. Did your fasting insulin rise?
Your glucose went down on a high carbohydrate diet. Then it went up. Then down up down up down up down up for years.
My A1C went back up to pre-diabetes levels on my 2nd test, up from normal levels of 6 months previous. Turns out I had been consuming more than the max 20g of daily carbs in the form of lactose. Too many white tea's and yogurts daily, more like 40g of carbs. Such a small amount sent glucose way up. When back to strict carnivore and it was like a reboot. Felt the euphoria of growth hormones again, lost another 2kg (of water retention) and it appears my blood pressure has resumed its downward march. I couldn't figure out why progress had stalled before, now I know.
My fasting blood sugar was 95. I’m told that it is a good level. I am mostly carnivore (very few carbs)
I would like to know whether the people cited who ate keto /very low carb are over/normal or under-weight. I am unintentionally under-weight and I while I am keeping my bg numbers down by my on-going keto diet, I can't get them as low as I feel I deserve! My theory is that I am actually in a pre-diabetic phase of T1. When I had a C-peptide test it showed borderline low insulin alongside borderline highish bg. I do wonder whether undiagnosed incipient T1 is at the root of some / all of the anomalous results discussed here.
I'm really surprised no one is talking about insulin levels here. Those who think they are overeating protein are not really understanding how this works. There are specific markers that can indicate gluconeogenesis. When you have low insulin, you convert protein to glucose to make up for any glucose needs. The only thing that stops this from happening is an increase in insulin. Additionally, a side effect of this is high Triglycerides. So, before saying its gluconeogenesis, make sure you understand which markers indicate this the protein conversion, such as BUN, ATL and AST and then check your fasting insulin/c-peptide
I had low insulin, my trigs were over 500, by triggering insulin (with whole milk per Dr. Cywes), Trigs have come down 50% in one week. it does increase my avg Glucose (Stelo CGM) but things are improving because Im intentionally forcing gluconeogenesis to strop for a period of time,. When insulin is raised with low amounts of carbs, Triglycerides are then cleared for energy.
Before carnivore my a1c was 5.2 . but now it was 5.5 and then 5.8 next week after 2 weeks again its 5.6 . i was worried so much.. prediabetic after carnivore.. 😅
My fasting glucose went up on keto, around 110. But no more spikes and crashes. Exercise makes my blood glucose go up no matter if I’m fasting or not. I’m at my ideal weight and feel great.
Dr. Cywes fixed this for me. Cut your protein to minmal 20% or less and up your fat to as close to 80% as you can get. Too much protein. Too much gluconeogenesis of excess ingested proteins.
I get my protein from fatty cheese mostly brie and cream cheese. I add at least one egg yolk, I use two, a day, with 2 tablespoon of heavy cream for micronutrients. I fry it in bacon grease for even more fat.
Boom glucose down to average 80 a day and wonderful many hour long excusions under 70 for maximum ketosis, human growth homromes, as measure by my new over the counter Stelo CGM.
Thanks for taking the time to type/explain this 😊
@@nancyknettell2360that, or don't worry about it.
@@nancyknettell2360 Great write up Nancy. Could you list what you eat over a weeks time?
@@nancyknettell2360 I was doing the same thing until I had my App B tested. It was just under 100, which for my current condition is way too high. I hope to get it down under 65, within 3 months, by lowering the saturated fats I consume. Fingers crossed. Hope your App B remains low and good work!
I like to think of insulin as a Ring master of keys. The keys open the door. Higher glucose or higher heart rate, the ring masters release more keys to open more doors. (To follow your analogy). Muscles are a sponge. More muscle tissue, more sponges for the glucose.
If consuming excessive amounts of flesh protein, in context of lower fat present, denovolypogenesis is a default mechanism to turn protein into glucose, thus raising blood levels.The hormetic cycle of feasting on meat and fat, fasting, refeeding on carbs, fasting etc, has created a mechanism of survival, but with our western world creating 4000 calories a day for every person, imagine if you mismanage just half of that , mostly due to context!
I didn't know you could have a small amount of sugar to help fight infection, that is new to me
Insulin resistance is a natural expression of the body wisdom..It is a seasonal necessity to gain weight during the summer and harvest fall for preparation for a winter early spring keto/fasting state. However, we are way out of sync. and harmony with nature's cycles and in a constant fed state and the body stores the glucose as fat to prepare for the fasting/famine state.
Dr Westman. I am a 75 year old woman
Carnivor
Had a mini stroke a month ago
Total Cholesterol 9.49. LDL. 7.01. Triglycerides 1.27
A1C 5.7
Dr wants me on statins
I am scared !
There is not much to discuss about this matter. When I'm active and even when I go to the sauna, etc., I exercise and move. Then I see that the blood sugar is high. The body produces glucose in response to activity. Sugar is 6-8 mmol. If I don't move and I'm still, the sugar is 3-5 mmol. That is, moving etc. has an effect. Sugar is still high for 3-4 hours after falling asleep at night. This then raises the hb a1c. This is not pathological. At the beginning I was worried about this and I cursed when the glucose was and was high until I realized that...I was really active 30 km brisk walks and strength training, 2-3 hours in the sauna, etc. every day. No wonder the sugar was high all the time as the body's response to the need. So I'm a carnivore. A1c 4,6
Yes, and when I'm active, my ketone levels also rise. In response to energy demand.
I'm on my 7th week Ketovore. Only Carb is Avocado. NOW Stevia has never increased my glucose or gotten me out of ketosis. 80/20-ish. Taking Electrolites. Walking 5 miles daily. No trouble making ketones.
All sudden, this week, getting high blood pressure... ?
Insulin isnt the door... Insulin knocks on the door, and if the cell wants glucose the glut4 receptor brings it in... If full, the "door" gets closed behind the glut4 , and locked.
So you’re telling me insulin is Jesus?😂❤Just joking with you
When I was Keto my BG was in the 70s, now it's in the 80s on Carnivore.
Liver cells are the first ones to become insulin resistant (either because of too much alcohol/fructose or glucose/carb overconsumption). And once the liver cell is insulin resistant, it will not stop gluconeogensis even when insulin is high. This is causing higher blood glucose spikes after high carb meals.
Only if you are doing it wrong. Not enough fat and too much protein can cause that phenomena. Too lean of meats.
Why is this spoken about so sparingly? I eat carnivore and my blood glucose has risen to near diabetic levels. Its too much protein.......birds chirping.
@@dealwolfstriked272Sparingly ? I figured it out myself just by educating myself on how the body works. You have to count your protein. I experimented with my protein intake for 6 months and figured out what I need according to my weight lifting and other activities. If I get hungry after that since I am super lean now, I will eat oxtails which are super fatty or maybe do a tablespoon of MCT oil. The three pathways for protein are muscle building/repair, out through the kidneys or the liver will use it to make glucose/glycogen. It's different for everybody depending how fat adapted your body is. That is why Carnivores need to eat Fatty Meats... Not lean. Hope this helps. FYI: Dairy can be a problem with many people. I don't use it
@@andredaedone7732 what I meant is there are a few posts here and ther about protein also needing to be controlled but it goes in one ear and out the other for so many.
Maybe the A1C Boogeyman doesn't scare carnivores.@@dealwolfstriked272
@@dealwolfstriked272 Oh I see! It is also a good idea to control protein because of the amino acid, glutamine which along with sugar garbage feeds cancer cells.
I’m 90% carnivore and low carb. I wore a CGM continuously for 42 days and HBa1c was 5.3 at the end of the 42 days. However, every time I I do blood work (once per year) at my doctor’s my a1c is around 6. Not sure how that makes sense.
HbA1c is raised because your red blood cells are living longer, thus having more opportunity to be glycated. Don’t worry about it
Lowering glucose increases cortisol too much. For those like me who deal with anxiety and even panic attacks, fasting and low carb can cause panic attacks even with no external trigger.
Ultimately it will improve the anxiety but you do go through a sugar withdrawal. Having anxiety is a sugar based phenomenon. The sugar binds to the dopamine receptors and prevents normal dopamine receptor functioning. One the sugar is out of the bood stream the crash happens and you need another hit of sugar to activate the dopamine. Once you have broken the sugar high the anxiety often abates but it does take a bit of time. It was worth the effort though on my part.
A lot of carnivores eat wayyyyy too much protein (and not enough fat), and are actually not in ketosis. The extra protein turns to sugar and that's why their BG and A1C goes up (this has happened to me as well). In fact a lot of carnivores are very dogmatic about their diet and never measure ketones, they don't even realize how important it is to be in ketosis.
As for lowering BG by eating carbs, it's obvious that this is done at the cost of spiking insulin - pretty stupid 🤦♀️
Yes, like treating insurance resistance by adding more insulin!
Insulin resistance I mean! I hate this auto-correct!
My yeast infection had not come back since keto
My A1C went from 5.4 to 5.2 after 1 year on the carnivore diet.
Enjoyed. I've seen my data points do some craziness too over the years since AYLA. My last draw showed fasting BG at 103, and A1c at 5.6 (up from 5.2). I decided to pop for a round of CGM sensors to take a peek at the curves. They look boringly flat. I'm still on the Phase 1 food list, for the most part. As directed, I'm still emphasizing protein. I'm guessing that my red cells are a little more long lived on such great substrate. Just more of the same old, same old - practicing and watching. And the doctors always beat me up regarding statins. Nothing new there.
Jay needs to actually learn some physiology before he starts mouthing off. The cells are never ‘broken’… insulin resistance is a natural process designed to protect the cells! It arises because people shove far too much carbohydrate in their face…. And the system overloads…. And then all the downstream problems arise….
Nope. Watch his podcasts and it is explained DEEPLY there. It has NOTHING to do with carbohydrates.
Lean meat with a lot of protein can cause lot of insulin production.. The insulin Index reveals that.
Oh you mean the meat that everyone tells you you have to eat?
@@edithrowlandeat moderately. Don't eat too much. Protein can also trigger insulin.
@@edithrowlandWho's telling you to eat lean meat?
Don’t know why this wasn’t mentioned. Good point.
True that's why you need to eat fats
Okay, first thing is that normative values all a function of randomized samples how's the population over time. Typically the longer that a particular normative value is assessed, the more accurate it is. However, there are always outliers. When you are not eating carbs, the only other option for elevating glucose levels in your blood substantially high enough impact your blood glucose levels what would be considered a pathologic state is gluconeogenesis. Every individual's nervous system will regulate this differently depending on a whole host of genetic and environmental factors. Because of the rarity of zero carb individuals, there is obviously going to be very little research regarding how this dietary lifestyle effects our bodies natural gluconeogenesis regulatory response in the absence of carbohydrates. To me, this seems like the most plausible explanation for the minority of clients seeing spikes in their blood glucose levels let go into what would be considered prediabetic or diabetic. Therefore, it is my hypothesis that even though these individuals are seeing high glucose levels that this will not lead to increased insulin resistance because that glucose level is directly regulated internally by your body's nervous system, which knows a whole lot more about your body then the smartest doctor you'll ever find! Another potential hypothesis to the situation is that the individual's body is working harder at producing sugars from protein because it is trying to maintain the body's fat energy storage levels. So, these elevated glucose levels may also be indicating that you are getting close to losing fat, which would be a good sign! Secondly, in response to those who have elevated a1c levels, you must understand that the formula for determining A1C is directly impacted by the longevity of your red blood cells. This is because a normative value that is derived from the general populace is substituted into this calculation. Your individual red blood cell longevity is not factored in. Therefore, if you are consuming a diet that is promoting increased longevity in your red blood cells and you have your A1C tested, your values will be significantly skewed. Hope that helps!
Carnivore 8 years HBA1C 4.8 fastest insulin 2.2 1 month ago, 53yr male
I think this ‘numbers’ problem depends on where you live. In UK the blood testing and monitoring numbers is not as common as in US. I don’t measure anything and stay away from doctors (getting to see one in UK is not easy anyway). When I transitioned into carnivore I did not feel great, but was still better than on a standard diet. It took many months to get my energy from the fat. So I trusted the low carb/ carnivore youtube doctors and now feel great on fat and meat. Who cares what my numbers are?
I have been type 2.5 diabetic for about 20 years. I have never been overweight- 145 pounds. I have Ben doing low carb for 15 years. I am on 4 metformin per day and also Lantus solostar at 8 ml. I was on just metformin for many years. Then A1c was high so they put me on Lantus solostar 3 ml. Over the years I have had to inscrease now to 8. Also my A1c has increased from 6.8 to 7.8 now. Dr. Westman did not say what to do with these type of people. I am 80 years old and have lots of energy and feel great. My fasting glucose is usually 135 to 150.
Well, what if you could increase the glucose the cell needs ? Then it would reduce insulin resistance. But nobody in the carnivore / keto/ insulin resistance community talks about this. Is it possible? It is. Aerobic exercise increases the mitochondria that can make use of this glucose and turn it into muscular energy output. The more you exercise (particularly in zone 2, for longer periods of time) the more this occurs. Yet people switch to full carnivore, lose weight (with little or no exercise) and think they are fit again. All they have done is shut down one metabolic pathway that nature gave us, in addition to the ketogenic pathway.
This shows how flawed the reference ranges are and that you don't "eat for the blood test marker" - if you understand that the liver makes the glucose you need, then you won't frame it as he did " our body is making too much sugar" - they clearly don't get it - just sayin....
On keto for four months. Lost 25 pounds (25 more to go). My A1c went down a from 6 to only 5.7. Finding my fasting glucose is still in the prediabetic range. How long did it take people to see their fasting glucose levels return to normal? How many people found that this slight elevation is their new normal like some of Dr. Westin's patients?
It's common to be the new normal. It's probably perfectly healthy.
What about when A1c is elevated but average blood glucose is not?
Because your red blood cells live longer, thus more chance of getting glycated, don’t worry about it
Will you be offering your 7 day keto challenge again?
While i hear people say carbohydrates i wonder why.. just say when we provide sources of glocuse.. this help people think about this is onw energy source there is ketones and fatty acids..
What is the affect of natural salt/sea salt?
I have the prob with glucose rise , I find that if I eat more fat it will go down.
Maybe you are eating too much protein
I think at his age you can say this and it might be true but not for those that are older especially women with so many hormone changes.
Carnivore changed my life, I'm never going back now💪
I've watched a few of Jay Feldman's videos and I still can't understand the context behind the approach he's advocating. It's certainly not an approach for a former type 2 diabetic like me.
I stopped watching her a long time ago. She seems really incorrect in much of what she says as do most her guests. Not worth my brain power to watch her.
Same here . I skip her
Apo B, a part of the LDL, definitely matters in most people. Please make sure to know what your Apo B level is for your specific condition. I wish everyone making videos would always mention Apo B. Maybe then those who watch and support their agenda will take a deeper dive into Apo B education.