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Could the Star Wars Galaxy Survive a Flood Infection? The Empire vs the Flood
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- Опубліковано 10 сер 2017
- The Flood, one of the most devastating enemies from the Halo Universe appears in the Star Wars Universe, with spores appearing on a planet in the Unknown Regions. Can Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine and the rest of the Galactic Empire survive the flood's parasitic onslaught?
For those who don't know, the flood are a sentient, single minded, parasitic life-form which has terrorized the Halo universe, including the Forerunner during the Forerunner Flood War and the Ancient Humans.
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please do a Jedi/sith vs Spartan 2 video
EckhartsLadder i wonder what would win death Troopers vs Halo
Or known as black queen I don't want anyone getting mixed up
killer 101 Halo by a long shot of course
EckhartsLadder pls deathtrooper vs royal guard
I think its safe to say that when a flood-infected Star Destroyer crashes into Coruscant, it would be game over
It would be like the High Charity infestation lol
no but that like 1000 times worse
Kick iF especially since corusant is extremely packed
@@infernothelastelemental514 yes, like you eating a stuffed turkey lol
The moment that spore grazed the galaxy, it's game over. This shit is super-Lovecraftian. The Flood meets the Tyrannids, Zerg or Borg there will be no losers, both the assimilated and the assimilator win.
‘Flood infested ship crashes into the Death Star’
Stormtrooper: what is it more rebels
Darth Vader: worse
Nice
You mean it crashes into the shield and turns into a wreck.
@@ArvelDreth the Death Star doesnt even have shields lmao
@ArvelDreth the Death Star doesn’t have shields, as seen when the Executor crashed into it
Admiral Wort it’s Shield gen on Endor was destroyed,
As soon as the Flood formed a gravemind it would realize that Star Wars has had the same technology for tens of thousands of years and think "Oh my God... the entire galaxy is retarded!" and actively try not to assimilate anybody to avoid getting dumber. So Star Wars wins.
Lmfao
😂😂
@@owenleaman7306 do you know how to do _this_ though? -or this-
@@CommissarChaotic please tell me
@@supertacticaldroid1751 put underscore instead of asterisks for italics and the hyphen/minus thingy for the crossout
*"One single flood spore can destroy a species..."*
All Nine Livez nope Empire will just snipe flood with Death Stars
The Forerunners activated the Halo rings that are weapons of destruction for all life in a gigantic radius and yet the Flood survived, I doubt that a death star that destroys planets will overcome that
Forerunners were stupid
Drone Wars at least they were smarter than you are and besides the flood would just come back again and again until the empire falls
@@christoffergood3504 give empire time
The scariest thing about the flood invading Star Wars is that they will very quickly become aware of the force and gain an understanding of it. See the precursors saw the universe in a somewhat similar way that the Jedi saw it. They will likely become force sensitive. Basically the particular nature of the flood makes it impossible for the Star Wars universe to win.
Or even worst; Flood forms being actually able tovuse the force including the tricks to manipulate other people's minds to join or fight for the flood (like disableling shields, open gates...)
@@Kanerudo well if you look at the precursors neural physics they could do alot of things with it and since the force is simpler in some ways since normal basic humans can use it the flood would be the force's version of chaos god cus the flood would be able to understand the force alot faster and in a more complex way than ordinary life would and be able to use it in far more extreme ways then imaginable it would probably be able to use the force on par or beyond what sith like Sidious and valkorion can so ye star wars would be f''cked
It's unlikely they could reproduce midichlorians
@@username.exenotfound2943 what do you mean reproduce cus the flood absorb biomass and everything in the starwars universe has midichlorians so once the flood absorbed just 1 planet it would have more midichlorians then any sith or jedi could have besides beings like abaloth
if you didnt know, graveminds can infect AI, and a keymind can manipulate space time and launch units across the galaxy (hence the flood pods falling from the sky in Halo 3)
It's laughable how utterly fucked the Star Wars galaxy is in this scenario.
The Forerunner had to resort to suicidal, galactic-scale *omnicide* to put a stop to the Flood. Superweapons that made the Death Stars look quaint.
Diana Barnett Yeah I think people forget that the namesake of the halo series, IS A SERIES OF GALACTIC SCALE SUPER WEAPONS, capable of wiping all life from the galaxy if fired
so true
They did that because they committed to developing the Halo Array 10,000 years before the Flood reappeared, and not to more conventional ways; they also refused to exterminate them at first, which screwed them the worst. The Empire has no such commitments to ridiculously complicated "final measures" and will fight to exterminate from day 1.
Sun Crusher might make a difference if the Empire was ruthless enough, and if it had been finished in time.
James Stephens they wouldn’t know what to do. The only reason chief and Cortana knew how to is because of the oracle. Which he then told them what the halo rings were meant for.
*Gravemind talking to Darth Vader* "The ability to use the force is insignificant next to the power of neural physics"
Darth Vader talking to Gravemind: "I find your lack of faith disturbing."
They would probably be friends tbh. They kinda speak the same way. Except their voices
@@erebusvonmori8050
*GRACEMIND:* I am older than your sith order. I am older than the dark jedi order. I am older than the first true Jedi order who practiced both light AND dark.
We were once a god like species known as precursors. It is WE who created all life in your galaxy, it is WE who can change form and communicate from light years. It is WE who are true masters of the Force of which you practice.
Know of the force, we do. Know more than your Galaxy of it, we do. Inferior it is, to neural physics. Those before you knew not enough of what the force be's. Do not overstep your place, or all will perish as they did before.
We exist together now. Two corpses in one grave.
@@o_o-037 Pretty sure Star Wars has its own set of insane precursors... actually there are a disturbing number of sci-fi universes with precursors that went nuts.
( O_〉O)? *Gracemind*
Short answer: They are screwed
Long answer: They are Totally screwed
the entire scenario of your bullshit halolites its that the flood can and will infect all the species in the star wars galaxy, well you are all wrong, if you knew basic biology you also knew that every specie has a different molecular structure and different anatomy we can see this even in a planetary scale here in earth, where there are species like sharks that are totally immune to cancer, thats a tiny example, the star wars galaxy in comparison with the halo milky way has over 20 million sentient species vs no more than 50, 20 million that could be also immune or had something to counter the flood. i am not even counting the non sentient species that could very well be over hundreds if not thousands of quadrillions or even quintillions, to that you must add sextillions of viruses, bacterias, parasites, genetical enginer bio weapons that the empire could very well do, but the most important thing that this idiot and you fanboys are not even taking into account is the force, which is the transdimensional energy of all life, through the force they can defeat the flood and actually a powerful force user can influence through the force a gravemind or a key mind.
now the most important thing of all is that this dude scenario and all your bullshit doesnt even fully consider every part of star wars lore and halo lore, the idiot didnt even know the cure for the flood of the ancient humans didnt even worked, and he doesnt have a hint of knowledge of basic biology, in layman terms; THE FLOOD WOULD BE MOPED BEFORE THEY EVEN REALIZE WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED.
p.s: i think its safe to say that by the time a gravemdind its formed Palpatine would already made use of sith alchemy to make it his puppet.
@@sutler12 yeah but if the empire dont react before a gravemind is formed they are fucked. The star wars universe doesn't have any ai or Droid or jedi or sith to compare with it. Then you have to add up that there are so many living things to be infected. So if the empire gets there early before the flood get on ships and go to planets then yeah. Easy win for the empire - blow the planet up with the death star 2 or just bomb it from orbit.
If the flood make it off the planet, then i think they will just spread so quickly for the empire to come out on top. In halo 3 they almost infected Africa in just a few hours. They could claim the star wars universe in a few months at most...
@@user-ro1so8gy4s what part of what i wrote you didnt read? read it again apparently you dont understand the whole point, and no the force is beyond anything in the halo universe so you are wrong.
@@sutler12 am i though? The flood could spread so quickly the empire wouldn't have to time to blow up the planet they're on because they'd be on thousands of others in a few hours. The only people who could actually stand a chance against the flood are force users like you said. But even then i dont think they can compete with the mind composed of quadrillions of individuals. The gravemind would obviously know what the force is and could easily develop a strategy against it. Its too damn clever for anything in star wars.
@@sutler12 if the flood spread faster than the empire can react then the only way i see them winning if they built something like a halo ring to destroy all sentient life - no food for the flood. Plus if a sith or jedi happens to get infected then the combat forms will be able to do lightsaber duels and maybe use the force.
The Flood themselves can use the Force, or rather, the Halo Universe version of the Force, known as "Neural Physics". The Logic Plague is bascially a mega-version of the Jedi Mind Trick, and the Flood's seeming omniscience is a result of the Gravemind's connections with Neural Physics
Combine that with the actual force as the Flood absorbs shit loads of midichlorians and it's bad news all around.
John D. Darth floodrious uses sith lighting
Or maybe the Flood finds the light side and becomes a Jedi, finally seeing the value in all living things?
John D. Gravemind thinks that biodiversity is a cancer. The endless wars between Jedi and Sith throughout 25,000 years of galactic history wouldn't have happened if everything was the Flood, and he's probably right. Pretty bright for a popcorn
That doesn´t work this way. Midichlorians cannot just be absorbed to gain them, either you do have them or you don´t.
'One single flood spore can destroy a species'
Project Halo wars *an entire*
One single flood spore can destroy a species.
+Dj Cuevas ( If it were not for the Arbiters council I WOULD OFF GLASSED YOUR WHOLE PLANET )
The Immortal Super Being it's entire planet buddy but props for getting it close
+Phenex Gundam D'oh damn well it has been a while lol.
Some people seem to forget, the flood are remnants of “gods”
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I have tomato sauce, barbecue sauce, mustard sauce...
@@freshavocado4755 Forerunner Saga - highly recommend you give it a read
@@ethanhooper8606 sauce
Flood starts using the force,
Darth Vader: FUCK!!!!!
Palpatine: SHIT!
If they infected surviving jedi like ashoka or someone
@@gankslicks9795 nope still couldn’t
@@Chosen_Ash I was thinking that due to the flood being able to do whatever the host knew
@@gankslicks9795 - No clue what the other guy is talking about, zero saying they can’t.
@@Chosen_Ash yes they could, whatever that user could do the flood could
If a race like the forerunners couldn't survive, theres no hope in hell really for most sci-fi galaxies to survive
THE IMPERIUM OF MAN is not Most
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You have Been Corrupted by the Xenos filth you an your entire world shall receive the Emperor's Mercy. *EXSTERMINATUS* *AUTHORISED*
EXTERMINATE!! You are enemies of the Dalek, you shall be DESTROYED!!
I... I now see.... FORGIVE MY HERESY
As much as I want the Star Wars Galaxy to win, I agree the Flood would win. True, Star Wars has dealt with similar "zombies" in their non-cannon universe. (See Old Republic Red Harvest and Death Troopers books) Those incidents were always localized and did not spread as quickly as the Flood. Also, because of the arrogance of The Empire they would not see the Flood as a threat tell it is to late.
They are a threat to organic beings, but they're nothing against non-physical beings. Force users can transformed in to ghost and such and powerful Sith Emperors can posessed other beings, etc. And there's the Force itself too.
I don't think the Flood will be able to completely destroy Star Wars Galaxy due to this reason (unless they can consume midichorian too or if the Force somehow favor them) but, yes, most of the Galaxy will be wrecked. Hard.
MariusThePaladin flood can most definitely corrupt machines. And the flood can most definitely corrupt everything and anything, example: the primordial. Yes he was flood and also precursor. But if he can corrupt anything, so too can the grave mind, or hive mind or even a keymind. So they are not invincible
They would probably rely on Sith artifacts and the like and team up with the Jedi for once. Force abilities are nuts and way too numerous. They might even attempt those rituals that allow them to fling stars at planets, assuming that everything goes perfectly and they survive.
@@MariusThePaladin Yes, but remember The Flood is More than Trillions if not quentillions of individual beings of one hive mind, and force users are gonna do what? Spam force choke, force push? No they are balls of rotten flesh, by then your arm would hurt trying to kill them, until you're infected on the back bc you got flanked by the flood, its impossible, unless they also find some way to replicate a weapon like A Halo Array.
@@andresmarrero8666 they are billions (see what i did there?) So just spam a little of Palpatines force thunder, they clone him and the flood is slightly stronger , numbers and mass of the creature they consume like eating a candy bar in a park that has been dumped nuclear waste, then you become larger. They consume as they go by planets. Millions upon millions billions upon billions trillions of recruits wouldn't still be enough. By then you, your friends , your family and everybody you love, would be converted into biomass. Numbers make it worse the less the numbers, the more the flood would starve or grow for more planets unless the empire resorts to building a similar device to a halo array a big chunk of the empire, a big chunk flood, and everybody in one galaxy, would die. Still the flood would have one flood spore to spare. But is stuck, on a lifeless planet no ships, no people, no wildlife. Game over for the flood. While the empire have still have a 3/10 of their forces. That would make the empire win. (If you noticed on the billions upon trillions part im also referencing The Banished there.)
Honestly I used to think the Flood were just generic space zombies with a hive mind, but your videos really make me understand how horrifyingly different and deadlier they are from typical zombie or viral infections. Subscribed.
The Flood: one of the few factions in conventional sci fi that could have a fighting chance in 40k.
I feel like they’re the tynarids, but worse.
@@vinayakkothari6162 I'd say more "weaker Tyranids with more adaptability and potential". Individual Tyranid forms are far stronger than individual Flood forms, but the Flood's ability to absorb knowledge and memories from everyone it absorbs would put the Flood ahead in the end. Spore level would probably be Tyranid spores eating Flood spores and mostly be an attrition battle, I'd give advantage to Tyranids though because Nid spores can actually fight, not just infect.
A big question though is if the Flood would be able to absorb Nid Hive Mind memories/knowledge.
@@burnttoast26 we don’t actually really know that as we never saw a true flood infeststion
Though that’s just speculation
@@reentrysfs6317 they almost got the location of earth from keys master chief killed him they can
The Modern Flood yes, the silentium flood would be overkill… end of 40K
The Flood are so much more terrifying than I originally imagined
That is also boosted ten-fold by the fact that I now know how powerful the Forerunners actually were, and that they couldn't stop them.
Dreeming Royalty the thing is, the Flood beat the Forerunners due to a number of advantages. At the beginning stage the flood isn’t that bad as far as hegemonizing swarms go. You just have to be brutal as fuck, and you can deal with a flood outbreak real easy. The problem is when you let them get a foot in the door lol.
Remember that in Halo 3 there was a Flood outbreak in Africa, but it was dealt with because the Elites had the ruthlessness and foresight to glass the shit out of the area immediately.
@@iamdream2562 "One single Flood spore can destroy a species. Were it not for the Arbiter's counsel, I would have glassed your entire planet!" - Shipmaster Rtas 'Vadum.
Short answer:No
Long answer :Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Read that in Luke’s voice
The flood would fuck the empire over
@@Daveo3 twice
Very scientific.
You can't cure the flood, because it's kills the host and uses the body of said host
It doesnt always kill you, it just overrides your nervous system at first so you are aware of whats happening and cant stop it
Pvt. Jenkins i believe, wasnt killed and was aware of what was happening, and he could feel everything, kinda scary
yeah he could partially control the body as well
When a conbatform dies it leaves a flood spores
A really mean person but wasn’t that because the Infection form that infected Jenkins was a bit old and wasn’t able to completely kill Jenkins?
I have played every halo game, looked deep into the lore of everything flood included. And I doubt the galaxy would stand a chance. They spread rabidly. Look at High Charity in halo 3 compared to the end of halo 2. Completely a flood home in a few hours. So in my opinion, no the flood would be too much. And if a flood infects someone that's force sensitive, then that flood can use the force as well. Just like Rtas aka shipmaster aka broken jaw once said and this word by word. "A single flood spore can a destroy a species." So yeah, my response to would the galaxy survive is *whoop* NOPE
Allow me to play Devil's advocate for a minute (I agree with you, but opposing ideas hold some merit)
Some possible points in favor of the Empire:
-the Flood may be susceptible to Sith influence or even outright control from a sufficiently powerful Force user
-The Force itself has some kind of intelligence or intent, so it may end up tipping the tide somehow
-planet-breaker weapons. Not life-eradicators, LONG-DISTANCE PLANET-BREAKERS. One shot from a Death Star or similar is ALWAYS a disintegrated ship.
- However. Flood capturing one would be BAD. VERY BAD.
-The mechanics of the Flood's hivemind may be disrupted by the fact that it's existing in a place possibly without neural physics. Not an instant K-O to the Flood but may force it to take drastically different tactics, possibly going with hordes of Proto-graveminds physically connected to their local infestation, rather than a single superintelligent wireless mind.
It actually took a couple of days to fully turn High Charity into a flood breeding ground
@@notimportant3255 even that fact alone make it scary a few days to fully take over but it only took a few hours to overrun High Charity and its mobile city with a population looking to be equivalent to that of the death star.
@@owenleaman7306 I get where your going but just the way the flood infect someone even the force would be hard pressed to be able to make someone immune to being infected. The problem is the only way they could stop the flood is in the very moment the flood start infecting the first world.
@@808INFantry11Xyeah except high charity dwarves the death stars. the Death Star has a 160km diameter while high charity is 505 km tall and 200 wide
I'm amazed about how many people think the empire could stop the flood. If the forerunners and ancient humanity couldn't stop it, what makes you think the empire can? Even after the forerunners cleansed the galaxy of life the flood still survived. Better yet after the flood's reawakening the ENTIRE covenant couldn't stop them, neither could humanity. As long as there are flood spores, a fight against the flood is like trying to fight time. You can't win
Shareef Clayton the covenant are not stronger than the empire. They have far less numbers and fleet power. Although the vast amount of more numbers would work against the empire
Petes Thename the forerunner is stronger though.
@@petesthename1588 The Covenant are stronger than the empire in a 1:1 ratio. The are more advanced and more focused on military than the empire. Not to mention how everyone in the empire hates the empire which may not sound important but belief in a cause is REALLY important. (I could give examples from the real world/other media but im guessing you dont want to read needless examples)
@@petesthename1588 Im sorry that you wasted so much time writing that. This is about the star wars empire. Not the 40k empire.
Pablofski whomp
How long would it take for the Flood to assimilate the galaxy? A year? Less? What would the addition of Force-sensitive beings to their ranks mean for the Flood when they move to assimilate other galaxies?
What do you think about the force sensitivity?
Jhan919 I guess The Flood would gain some sort of connection to The Force and if they didn't they'd still get all of the knowledge of said being. Imagine what it would do with knowledge of Jedi Masters and Sith Lords.
I'm almost certain they would be able to connect to the Force. I mean, the Force itself is the lifeforce of the galaxy, and the Flood is like pure life itself, assimilation of the galaxy would be the closest that that galaxy's life came to perfection in the Force's mindset (although there wouldn't be any biodiversity)
Jhan919 True, the Flood could be the perfect being in the Force's "eyes" so maybe both the light and dark side of the Force would become balanced forever after complete assimilation. Though after complete assimilation the Flood would run out of a food source and die (so even more balance I guess???)
@Nycto never could understand the whole "balance" thing! After complete assimilation, the Flood moves on to another galaxy to repeat the process, perhaps the Yuuzhan Vong galaxy. A very similar concept to the Force exists in the Halo Universe, it's called "Living Time", and the Flood's ultimate goal is to convert all life in the universe to achieve perfection. The Forerunner Mantle is also designed around the worship and fulfillment of Living Time, in a more "balance of the Force" kind of way, however
The flood survived a galaxy wide super weapon. What can the SW’s universe do?
I've returned to this video after many years..
And realized only person that can destroy flood is darth nihilus. He's capable of sucking life force of planet itself and evreyone on it.
Furthemore I do not think flood will be even able to infect him as he doesn't really have body.. To flood he's just air that is capable of wiping out entire flood infestations.
The Flood would easily crush the Empire and the entire Star Wars galaxy.
fanboy confirmed
Well it is true since the flood is extremely powerful compared to the Star Wars galaxy and other universes. Btw I’m a Star Wars fan so no I’m not just saying this because I like haloسلطان عسيري
Except jar jar came and the high ground, their unstoppable
xXdAm4sTrIkErXx If the Empire got the high ground, the flood would have no chance.
@@user-dt2li4xk6z don't be an ass
Jar Jar Binks vs Gravemind.
Double A Batteries the gravemind fired the haloring just to make shure jar jar didn't survive
+Fawful benivictor But to the Graveminds horror *he did*
Double A Batteries Jar Jar would mind rape the Gravemind with his stupidity.
+The Primidoral last of the Precursor and first of the Floodlol xd
"This is not your tomb, but you are welcome to it."
"Yousa ugly. Yousa need a friendsa"
"On second thought..."
I've made 2 equations to calculate how fast and strong the flood gets over time.
(N is usually starting in a small number like 7-10)
Every time "F" increases, reset the equation and double "N" and "H" while multiply "D" and "P" by 1/8
H=2N
F=P [(D(NxH)]
F= total flood forces
P= healthy population
D=density of healthy population
N= number of people infected
H= rate of people infected per hours
If a large portion of the flood is destroyed, reset the equation but decrease p
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Get a life
Long story short, by by empire
@@TheKantru says the guy who leaves rude comments on star wars videos smh
Lmao “The rebels are on vacation or something.”
They are dead
They would be dead in first week.
Rebels: hey guys I'm back what did I miss?
@@godzillakaijuboy Random Imperial Combat Form: *Speaking Gravemind*
Rebel: Oh
Imagine the flood controlling the death star
The thing is they wouldn’t really use it. The floods goal is to continuously absorb biomass. They would never waste a planet’s worth of biomass using the super laser. At most they would turn the death star into a grave mind with all the troopers on board just use the laser on ships threatening the station. Consider the fact the flood have taken over Covenant ships multiple times before, but never used the glassing beams, they just crash land it into another planet and start infecting it.
@@crowsenpai5625 makes sense since the flood did a similar thing with high charity and later fought the banished after completely swarming out like a prison break. Voridus must have felt really bad after that.
Think about the flood controlling the starkiller base.
@@crowsenpai5625 actually they did halo ring the forerunner capital in the forerunner flood war because the coordinated forerunner fleets were slowing it down. So they may pop a politically important planet if they deem it worthy enough.
Just Imagine them crashing it into corrascant just to teach Palpatine a lesson
What about the Forerunners in their prime against the Empire/Star Wars Galaxy?
Forerunners. The Empire wouldn't stand a chance even with Legends being used.
Not even close. At all.
Hell, even just Medicant Bias or Offensive Bias. Or just any Contender class AI controlled fleet would pulverize the entire Star Wars galaxy.
Considering how powerful the Mantle's Approach is it could just ram any ship the Empire could throw at it
Would the empire be that much of a threat for them to kill indiscriminately? The Halos probably wouldn't be fired, though they could be used as bases or whatever. The forerunners would most definitely win though.
Do they have the high ground?
not when the high ground is made of flood meat
I guess having the high ground beef isn't quite as good an advantage then.
LOL
They ARE the high ground. lol
No. But the flood would never survive the spin cycle.
The flood is actually a hive mind
No shit Sherlock
some geek let’s be nice
The issue is at its early stages it can’t organize its own thoughts, it’s just chaotic and instinctual, like “there’s food, kill and consume” once it progresses far enough, protograveminds can organize these thoughts into more intelligent and strategic mind, and so on
Your moms a hive mind
Ur mom
Then again the Star Wars universe has never even seen or heard of the flood. They wouldn’t know what to do. Wouldn’t know that the are all connected to one mind.
If the flood took over the the entire galaxy, how intelligent would the flood be?
Jacob Gelven I guess it's safe to say that it would be smarter than any living thing ever. I normally think of Graveminds as biological self-improving AI, which can end up being ridiculously smart.
Jacob Gelven About equal to every beings knowledge added together plus more.
It came really close before the Halo event.
It quite literally outsmarted the Forerunners.
Until the last resort.
I think once they even took over a planet they would be so smart a human or any other species couldn't even comprehend it. Considering a planet could have billions of people, all of which would turn into a massive hive mind, the gravemind controlling them would be exponentially more intelligent than any other biological creature.
They would become the Precursors XD
as much as I love the Empire in star wars......
all of my bets are on the Flood......
The empire would probably be way more willing to glass entire infected planets than the forerunner were, so that might give them a bit of an advantage.
Forerunner standard operating procedure for dealing with Flood infestations was to initiate stellar collapse. So no, the Forerunners were perfectly willing to annihilate entire star systems. Once the Flood gets off the initial planet, it's game over for the galaxy.
You make the best vs video and I love Star Wars vs halo
Have you done a xenomorph vs star wars yet
Thanks my dude!
EckhartsLadder for your reach video will you also include the unsc relief force that comprised 43% of humanity's fleet also if u need help with research jus look up halo canon and hidden expiria these guys cover almost everything when it comes to halo lore
Perhaps, maybe they won't be necessary!
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Would infected Force-sensitives be able to use the Force? I think so...
Jhan919 no the flood are dead beings therefore not force connected
They aren't dead though. Their bodies are often made of dead matter (although not always in the case of the Pure Forms), but they are very much alive, from a certain pov more alive than regular life. The Flood is best thought of as a Hive Mind, and you could think of every Gravemind as an extension of the same being. And in the Halo Universe, the Flood's ultimate endgame is the unification of all life in the universe, which they see as "perfection". Seem's kind of like something that the Living Force would be attuned to, even though it would cause a lot of death
Although the Force doesn't seem to mind a lot of death to achieve its goals, as it saw fit to bring the end of the Jedi Order, including the children, and the complete subjugation of the galaxy for 20 years, just to bring "balance" (which only lasted like 30 years till Force Awakens!)
I think it's worse than that. As the Flood absorbed biomass from various beings from Star Wars, it would gain more and more midichlorians. The Flood could probably manipulate midichlorians just as it manipulates living neural tissue.
Also, the Flood doesn't kill all of the creatures it absorbs. I'd recommend watching the Keyes Terminal from Halo CE Anniversary to get a better understanding of what happens to lifeforms absorbed by the flood.
Jhan919 plus the flood were once the gods of the forerunners
Imagine the power of the Flood once they start taking over the bodies of Force Sensitives...
Wouldn't work. The Force isn't just about knowledge. It's something you awaken yourself to, and I'm pretty sure The Flood would be dead to The Force. There were beings in Star Wars that couldn't feel The Force, and thus could not use it. Since The Flood are more of a disease, and they kill their host when they infect the body, The Force wouldn't flow through them the way it does most life forms.
@@ArvelDreth they not always kill the host, I recomend watching the terminals un Halo CE
And the Flood not only consumes biomass when it infects a creature, it also gains its knowledge, so in theory, the Flood could use the Force
@@ArvelDreth midichlorian in host: chuckles, i am in danger
Generally the answer to "Can X universe survive a Flood infection" is determined by two questions: "How far are the Flood in their development?" and "How fast is interstellar travel in this universe?"
Star Wars has incredibly fast interstellar travel, so the Flood have a massive advantage right out the gate. If the infection is allowed to spread over even just one planet, it's game over. They don't have a Halo ring.
Nothing survives the flood, not even the xenomorphs
*Xenomorphs*
The Divide This made me laugh I don't know why😂😂just the way u spelled it
Well the xenomorphs are conveniently, but perfectly, untouchable. Mainly because xenomorph blood is acidic.
Logan Sanders they can be used as biomass
Logan Sanders Plus the flood is a very adaptive parasite that can counter those obstacles
Tau Empire vs The Covenant
King Crimson No, the tau vs the covenant has been appearing on multiple sites
and yes
King Crimson FUR TAH GRETER GUT
40k wins... Tau can keep up with the impirum... Like win a single battle... A person who is basically a lesser space marine (Master Chief) if the Tau can kill more than two Space Marine, they 100% got this.
I was thinking the covenant from alien universe
+RC5663 Comet Hey like a single Space Marine could probably wipe out the covenant (Master Chief) I think the Tau would be fine....
You know, I was thinking about this after hearing a bit about the flood and how absolutely dangerous they are, and I thought back to this video about how spread out and !@$#ed the star wars galaxy would be, as the flood could gain so much steam as to be basically impossible to defeat because of how easily they could access a population so much more massive than anything in the halo universe before anyone with enough power to stop them could ever notice. I think these are good points.
I also remember some comments making the comment that the flood would be able to use the force after consuming jedi. In the halo universe the flood gains enough traction to seemingly infect timespace itself, and also using neural physics like the precursors, utilizing their long dormant tech such as the star roads.
However, I think there's an issue here. The Force as it is portrayed in the Star Wars universe is not just an energy source, but rather a pantheistic deity that has a will of it's own. The FORCE ITSELF could possibly seek to destroy the flood.
This leads to an even more interesting implication. The flood uses the logic plague in order to, in a sense argue it's point and manipulate AI in a way that corrupts their programming, and can manipulate almost any intelligence. Could the Flood develop so far as to CORRUPT THE FORCE ITSELF? The flood is not just a physical biological infection, but a philosophical one. However, the Force is more than metaphysical, but spiritual. The actual capacity of The Force itself is nebulous, and what it's actually capable of is not exactly clear, and I think that this makes the implications of such a conflict utterly fascinating.
Yeah, the Force being a sentience itself could absolutely play a vital role in the Flood infection's spread (or defeat, both are possible)
Though I'd argue due to the Flood's nature as an extradimensioal threat to the Star Wars universe, the parasite may be "immune" to the Force, for lack of a better term. The force is like the will of the universe; what power would it have over something foreign? This question, i think, is vital to answering the question of who would win.
I’m not saying the flood would lose or anything, in fact I almost laughed at the video title thinking how anyone could even imagine the Star Wars universe standing a slim chance, but I actually think your mentioned lack of ai in the Star Wars universe could be an advantage, as on if the reasons the forerunners got so fucked was the logic plague overtook most of their ai that they relied so heavily on
The Flood versus the Borg!! Please make this a thing!!!
(P.S. I know this isn't Star Wars, but come on, this is top comment. GIVE US WHAT WE WANT!!!)
Catpirate how about tyranids vs the borg vs flood and zerg!
Catpirate
Flood would win because of the Logic Plague.
Catpirate 👀
the flood would win. its too obvious FFS
I would like to see the Borg, flood, and reapers in a war. And no red pill logic plague magic. Especially when it is difficult to recognize how that would work against multi-minded factions like the Borg and reapers.
How about the Forerunners against the Galactic Empire?
galactic empire is not intellegent to fight them (sorry for shitty english)
Thats not even a fair match up, the forerunners would roflstomp the empire 1,000 times over
Cybran if you seen halo 5 ending with Cortana emping everything device on Earth (and orbit) galactic empire=fucked no chance to counter attack.hell they could put the halo rings in the star wars galaxy wipe the the entire galaxy out of life
Cybran Star Wars universe is prehistoric shit compared to Halo universe.
Mike Crime I wouldn't got that far but yeah the forerunners are on another level
Just imagine the flood taking the deathstar and a key mind being formed on it... yikes.
Gravemind: "time to gather intel on the enemy by absorbing biomass of soldiers and attaining their memories."
Gravemind: assimilates millions of Empire members.
Gravemind: "... You... you guys lost to teddy bears."
"One single flood spore can destroy a species" Unless the empire can use the death star to destroy the planet the infection started on before it spreads off world, which is EXTREMELY unlikely for many reasons, they are fucked. Hell, even the halo universe itself doesn't have a legitimate way to kill it without everyone else dying, they simply ignored it's existence after killing a gravemind and acted like it was over, when all that did was make the flood slightly less organized for a short time.
If the halo rings themselves, (which are weapons that make even starkiller base look like a fancy laser pointer) couldn't stop the flood then nothing really can once the infection has gotten off world. I doubt most SciFi universes could stop it, not star wars, not star trek, nothing. You have a VERY small window to stop it, and you usually wont see it until it's closed.
Honestly even with a Death Star strike you might not get all of the flood - just send bits and pieces flying in all directions. A Base Delta Zero orbital glassing of the planet probably gives you the best chance, but if the flood manages to get onto a ship escaping offworld - game over
The Empire VS The Covenant
Legends - The Empire
Canon - The Covenant
their is no halo legends, everything is canon in halo , except things like Red vs Blue
ThatAussieGamer117 But the rvb easter eggs aint canon, although awesome
It would definitely be an interesting conflict, both are seemingly infinite empires but the empire mainly relies on numbers to overwhelm their enemies so that advantage is now just an equalizer, now some may say that star wars tech is superior, maybe ship wise yes, on the ground things would be hell for the empire's troops taking into consideration hunters, sword elites (energy swords also happen to be the perfect anti lightsaber melee weapon) and their cloaking tech, scarabs, disregard for their own lives, and limitless devotion to their cause.
And the covenant re-purpose forerunner tech all the time (Which is vastly superior to star wars tech) so they would use the empire's own technology against them. The covenant would destroy on the field, and adapt and overcome in space. It in my opinion would be tipped in the covenant's favor slightly but would still be a long, hard fought war.
He was meaning Legends Empire will win against Canon Covenant which I agree cause of the ridiculously op stats of the Empire...
Jar Jar Binks Vs Master Chief
Dr Draconian coming from a halo fan, Jar jar would destroy chief with his stupidity
That isn't even a fair fight
@@joshuamcpherson5859 yeah...I still miss Master Chief
Jar Jar would win in 1 microsecond
Jar Jar can just slap Master chief neck and it'll make him OOF
I like how in this battle the rebels are just sitting in their ships drinking fruit punch in their lawn chairs watching the galaxy progressively becoming more tan and fleshy.
Venator class star destroyer vs Spirit of Fire (with Serina).
Rip Spirit
We talking with or without AI?
That Gamer spirt wins
+Friggibg Fascist
If the Venator gets real close than yeah, instant death for the Spirit. But if it's the optimal range for the MAC, that is a serious chance. The fighters will probably kill the Spirit in the end, but the Venator's life is really in the fog here.
It's basically a "Can the Mac murder the Venator fast enough" situation...Now that I think of it, the Venator may not get all the fighters out...
#RIPSpirit
The forerunner technology was far more technology advanced than anything the star wars universe had. And the forerunners got stomped by the flood. So you would think, flood > forerunners > empire. But here's the thing...
As the flood-forerunner war progressed, the flood began reactivating and using precursor artifacts such as star roads and they also took control of the domain. These precursor artifacts were ridiculously overpowered compared to the forerunners technology and are what gave the flood such an advantage in space battles. Without those artifacts, its not clear that the flood would have actually won. At least, that is the impression that I got while reading the forerunner saga novels. And since the star wars universe doesn't have such artifacts to give the flood such an advantage...The empire would still probably get stomped, but who knows.
a wise elite once said "one single flood spore can destroy a species"
This one is almost up in the air, because we need to wonder if the flood gains the traits of those they consume could they use the force? Or because the force user is "dead" does the force no longer apply?
Well the way midichlorians work it probably doesn’t apply
@williamdus it all 101 but thats the tricky part, because couldnt the flood take over a midichlorian? Its a super cell so basically everything cellular and below can slowly be transformed into a flood super cell, which within halo lore Can mimic the abilities and inate functions of the cells it converts, its not really so much being Dead just that you are no longer the one that decides when you move you leg or what you do, i put dead in quotes because the host never actually flatlines or has its brainwaves cease unless the host is physically destroyed, now the flood dont really eat so yeah eventually they all die naturally and at that point become more flood cells then host cells
Well burning affects force sensitivity as does other injuries. So I don’t see how a being can be mutilated by an infection like we see the flood do and still be force sensitive
Nothing can stop the flood. They are quite literally unstoppable
*Thought Robot Superman, the rest of DC and Marvel, Time Lords and Xeelee says hi!*
coming up on infra-red lol we're talking about sci-fi XD
+David Aceituno Well he did say "Nothing can stop the flood" and usually when someone says nothing that kinda implies *_nothing at all._* If I took Marvel and DC out, the Time Lords and Xeelee are sci-fi y'know
+David Aceituno And what I listed before is *_what can absolutely beat_** the Flood* regardless if someone says nothing could beat them
coming up on infra-red naw dude the flood would easily defeat marvel and D.C.
Idk what the time lords and stuff are so I can't say about that
Actually there is one way the empire could win.
The only way I believe that the empire can win is to pull any and all forces to the core worlds and not allow any other ships to enter or exit the core worlds and blast away at anything that come close
Jon The Gamer :D :C :I yeah but combat forms can still pilot ships and even use the weapons of ships and vehicles because they retain their mucle memory plus the flood can infect ai and Droids with the logic plauge.so combat forms can't pilot ships and vehicles problem solved Droids and the ai can drive them
4real m8 r u sirius Advanced ai are infected by logic plague simple ones like droids on star wars not so much
+Jon The Gamer :D :C :I So basically abandon the Mid Rim and Outer Rim entirely? If every uninfected individual in the Mid and Outer Rims is evacuated to the Core Worlds, then it could work in theory at least. If not, then the Core Worlds will inevitably fall to the Flood because the Flood would infect everyone in the Mid and Outer Rims of the galaxy; thereby bolstering their forces with more numbers.
Jon The Gamer :D :C :I The foruners tried that to didn't work
The forerunners tried to guard certain slipspace routes with a similar strategy but they failed horribly.
The flood will find way. The flood is patient. If they cant just overrun the defending forces, they will find a way to corrupt them from the inside.
And every attempt of the empire to bring the fight back to the floods territory will result in strengthening them.
There are only two ways to destroy a flood outbreak.
Kill it off in its early stages or destroy everything the flood feeds on like the forerunners did because they didnt really get the chance the first option offers.
Without some kind of hint by the force the empire wouldnt even be able to identify the flood as a real threat until its too late.
I can imagine Yoda getting a panic attack after sensing such horrible being entering the galaxy
The moment The Flood starts consuming major cities is the moment Palpatine will pick up on their presence through a disturbance in the Force. But he isn't going to understand the severity of the problem at first so he'll probably just send a small force to investigate it, assuming it to be the Rebel Alliance up to something. When the force reports the horror they've found that'll be the moment that decides the fate of the Galaxy. If Palpatine doesn't take The Flood seriously then the Galaxy will be done for.
THE BUGS FROM STARSHIP TROOPERS VS THE ALIENS FROM INDEPENDENCE DAY.
The IND Aliens would OBLITERATE that Arachnid scum easy really easily.
Would you like to know more?
This is a joke, do Yuzzhan Vong vs flood or the Rakatan Infinite Empire vs flood
Probably would still get wrecked
Flood would lose
You know since the ships are organic the flood could infect not just the Vong but the entirety of their fleet soooooo.... Gg
Vong instantly lose, since they are made of what flood eat
Yuzzhan Vong are organic and pretty much everything they have is organic. Flood infect organics. It would be the quickest galactic war in history. Flood would win 10/10.
This Starwars Universe won't survive the Flood,not even their ships *humming*
The flood is just op. The infection part alone is like game over
Pre-watching comment: Are you kidding? The Star Wars galaxy could barely survive the Yuzhan Vong, but then again that was just because the rebels were being idiots and couldn't just wait a few years so the Empire could kick their asses. Still, I don't think so, seeing as the YV faced an incredible amount of disadvantages that the Flood would circumvent.
Agreed
Star wars universe vs dead space necromorphs
A random elite the necromorphs would win due to how cunning they can be and how they spread by dementia and cause people to go insane and also regenerators
Just get Nihilus to eat them all.
A random elite it matter on time zone CIS Droid army would not go insane and just kill them all clones if need be have chips in there brains so we don't know how it will infect then storm troopers would have a fun time being just humans not clones just normal humans Rebels would die just die can't go into the newer movies
Imagine a Necro Vader 😱.
A random elite yes
Wait, didn't I see your comment in the tyrants video
[sees Flood-infested planet]
Me: Time for the Death Star.
General I am springtrap, I am truely sorry to inform you that the death star is out if commition do to the that the flood has control of the death star
Won’t be effective forerunners caused stars to go supernova in their war against the flood didn’t slow them down
@@michaelchi1336 True, but the Death Star destroys entire plants, targeting the planets themselves. No planet, no life to assimilate
I am Springtrap but in order to destroy a star you need energy greater or equal to the star itself meaning the forerunners has weapons that were star level at least
@@michaelchi1336 Yes. But the force would be entirely opposed to the Flood, alerting all Force users to react to it immediately, in theory. Would this not cause Vader, who wants control, not death, to immediately destroy the planet?
When i played awakening the nightmare on HW2 it was interesting to see just how fast the flood spread when fighting a fully armed occupational force like the banished on the ark and how it took every last body to just destroy the proto gravemind. I dont think there are many cases where the empire could properly contain and destroy the infection.
Jesus the thought of a gravemind taking knowledge of the Sith by absorbing Palpatine...
Hahaahaha no..... No seriously? What the fuck dude?
They would literally by trying to fight a mathmatical equation that they can never hope to equalize. The Forerunners considered premature stellar collapse as standard Flood containment protocol & that failed to even slow them at all. The entire GE would fall in a matter of weeks to months. The Empire is _too small_ to respond to something like this.
Once Keyminds & other Precursor shenanigans come into play, it's a godstomp of the highest caliber.
XNinja2017 the flood would get shitstomped by the empire, palpatine as powerful as he is could see the flood before they could even infect more then 100 people. And then blow up that planet with the Death Star, bye bye flood
+Freerider the forerunners tried that, look how they turned out.
lol yes
Timothy W He can sense anybody that was infected with the Flood spore in the galaxy. The only reason why his senses were faltering in the Return of the Jedi is that the Force was finally beginning to turn against him, due to it favoring Luke in the movie to bring balance. I doubt anything similar to that would happen in this scenario, as the Force would probably even strengthen Palatine's connection with the Force to destroy the Flood outbreak.
first palpameme has to know where they are and death star is uselles asgainst the flood
“Alas brother, the flood.. it has evolved!”
The Flood will never die
Given the way the force works, I think pretty much any force sensitive person would know that something was very not good as soon as the first proto-gravemind starts forming.
Yeah, that's one of many reasons why the Flood question is so up in the air: the Flood will be detected, it's a matter of how the Flood interacts with the Force that determines the outcome above all else.
Yeah, but unless they instantly decided to destroy the planet on a hunch it wouldn’t matter I think. FTL travel is so common in SW that it would work against them. This scenario would be so cool tbh lol
My Theorie:
Start Form: One Spore
Strarting Planet: ---( Or, if it should go faster, Coruscant)
So, some Guy gets infectet. A Infection by a Spore has other effects than by a infection Form, before you can see the infection it will grow around 2-3 months. Patient Zero will be more agressiv and will try to attack other Individuals. If he gets killed, Spors will be Released into the Air. Everybody that was near Patient Zero will be infectet soon, because of the Spores. Soon, the "Spore" Floods will cover a place with collected Biomass. There, they will collect Biomass to produce Infection Forms (They can infect Victims faster and mutates them) and to build a Gravemind.
That all happens in the first few Days After Patient Zeros Dead.
After they made a Proto-Gravemind (A small Gravemind) they get to the coordinated Stage.
From they the will spread extremely fast. The Key is to infect a Clone or a Stoormtrooper, when that happens, they will get Military Informations and may the informations how to steer Vehicles or Spaceships. The First Planet will fall in about 6 Months.
The Flood will try to find a Planet with alot of Biomass. Mostly Coruscant. Now, that they have a Target, they'll try to get the Gravemind to the Target. The Captured Starships crash into the Planet, and realising the Infection. Depends on how big the Infection was, the Planet will fall in bless than a Week. It will may take more Time to Reach the Center if Coruscant, but After 1 Week there is No Chance to deafeat the Infection.
Key-Mind
Now, that the Flood has enougth Biomass, they will Build a Key Mind. It take Years to build It, but if theyre done Star Wars is deafeted.
The Flood is an Overkill to the Star Wars Galaxy.
BTW.Please stop spreading wrong stuff to not trigger the Star Wars Fans.
BTW 2 excuse my Grammar im German
Probably the one situation where use of a planet buster is an appropriate response.
This is such a sweet idea! I've pondered this many times. I would also like to know what the UNSC vs the Empire would be like. Darth Vader vs. Master Chief.
One of Star Wars's most damning faults when it comes to fighting the Flood- Blasters. Blasters are essentially plasma based guns that as anyone that has played Halo knows...not very effective against the Flood. Further, Star Wars does use hyper intelligent AI. Sone of their droids are much, much, much more intelligent than any organic life.
In lore, plasma is very effective against biomass. However in star wars plasma behaves differently. Hitting more like a really, really hot bullet.
Master Chief would get rekt by Darth Vader. And I say this as a much bigger fan of halo than Star Wars
@@Giblet12
I don't know about that.. there are avenues the Chief could fight Vader that he has proven to be ineffective in combatting. What I'm referring to is his suit in particular. If that thing is wireless in any way...Vader would be in real trouble. The second the fight started Cortana would be attacking his suit. Unlike a droid, Vader can't just crush her and as she's not technically physical would the Force really do anything to her?
Reapers from Mass Effect vs the Flood. My friends and i have been debating this for (what seems like) years.
Reapers lose 10/10 times. The AI that leads the reapers can be infected by the flood and taken control of it via the logic plague (like the flood did with the forerunner's super AI: mendicant bias) and use the reapers to destroy themselves. Furthermore reapers are only half machine, their organic infrastructure would make them susceptible to infection, and the war is going to end pretty soon when unknowingly infected reapers join up with the rest of their forces.
That and after infecting their first reapers they'd have all of their wisdom and battle knowledge at their disposal.
Flood ez
@@jamesshore3191 and also the fact they would probably work together considering they have the same goal
The Dalek Empire vs The Empire
is this even a question? the Daleks could use time travel to prevent the empire from even existing
Even if they didn't, the Empire's number of ships ranges in the hundred thousands and in the final day of the Time War the Daleks were said to 10 million ships. That would mean there were over 20 billion Daleks in the Dalek navy ( according to the Doctor's assumption that a Dalek ship contains over 2,000 Daleks). In other words, I suppose it would be a bit of an unfair fight ( I still want him to do it though )!
Single Dalek fleet (no time travel) vs The Empire,
Johnny Kilroy this would be pretty good
Even without time travel the dalek empire spans universes with no limit to how meny daleks can be produced and with a single dalek being able to take on an entire planet although it will take a long time even just Skaro alone would cockstomp the empire purely because of the daleks ridiculous power but mainly there tactical capabilities a good example of this is the battle of mindon where the daleks were able to perfectly coordinate and time there hit and run blitzkrieg now that does not sound like a lot but think how hard it is to execute a blitzkrieg and the preparation needed to perform successfully and in this case the daleks thought this on the spot no human Thawn, Rommel or Scipio could do this in the het of the moment and then add in the fact that the daleks had perfectly timed the CAS runs, rapid ground advance and suppression bombardments to enable the ability for forces to withdraw from the the battle to resupply and then put that on a planetary scale and this is considered simple dalek strategy.
Meanwhile, in the warhammer 40000 universe.
"Inquisitor, we found a weird looking mushroom infection in this world."
"Oh yeah? SMASH IT!"
Too bad that the report is likely six months old by the time it reaches an Inquisitor's desk. Remember, information travel in the Imperium of Man is _painfully_ slow, and there aren't anywhere near enough Inquisitors to monitor every planet all at once. If the Inquisitor wasn't already in orbit over the afflicted planet when the outbreak began, there wouldn't be anything they could do.
Before i even watched this i thought, "if the forruners beat the starwars galaxy, and lost to the flood, of course starwars would lose"
ARC troopers vs spec ops elites
Spartan Abrams spec ops elites would win due how stealthy they can be and how well they are trained and them being superior to humans
Phenex Gundam I agree, Spec-Ops Elites have active camo which the ARCs do not possess and have Energy swords (lightsabers)
Stand Alone Complex they also hav energy shields which I think is the strength of an ultra which could take a beating which gives them a edge in combat
All good points
ARC troopers are not humans by my knowledge but specs would win because of stealth.
Can you do some mass effect? Maybe a sovereign class reaper or a harbinger class reaper vs an imperial class star destroyer.
Or the normandy sr 2 full upgrades vs the melium falcon or another freighter or frigate
the reaper have superior technology due to the reapers laser it has
Luke Gorst true so maybe a sovereign class reaper vs an imperial 2 class star destroyer
if you are talking about sovereign himself in the mass effect game then if the shields were taken down then possibly the star destroyer could destroy it with the overwhelming amount of guns but sovereign will fire the main laser as soon as he sees the star destroyer and you have prob seen ending for mass effect the fleet survives with about 10 ships out of the thousands that went in
The ME Galaxy is severely underpowered compared to most other sci-fi fictions. Nothing in the Citadel races arsenal could take on Star Wars unless it's an uneven fight. The Reapers would fare better, but they are still outclassed by a bit
any SW ship would destroy a reaper, they only have fairly weak kinectic energy weapons, and kinectic barrier don't trigger against energy weapons (Everything is SW)
the reaper is fucked
" a single flood spore can destroy a species" thats it thats all you need
It took wiping out all life in the galaxy to stop the flood in the halo universe, no goddamn way the empire would survive.
I'd love to see Jar Jar Binks being infected by The Flood! It would be like a childhood dream come true!!
+TardisPays HD The Flood would die from stupidity eating him.....
coming up on infra-red So true XD
What was your childhood fam?
Didn't watch it yet, but I say no. Also my suggestion for a vs match:
BC-304 Odyssey (Stargate, Post-Unending, Pre-Ark of Truth, meaning no ZPM) vs Imperial-II Star Destroyer
Edit: I vote for the Flood...let's face it, even if they are able to contain the Flood or even wipe it out, someone will have kept a few samples of it, allowing for future outbreaks....
*reads the title*
*thinks for a few seconds*
Me: Star Wars Universe is Fucked.
Video: Star Wars Universe is Fucked.
Its funny because when describing the flood you can't really think of them in the context of an enemy power but rather a disease in how you approach it which is try not to.
Retribution class battleship vs executor class Dreadnought
The Flood vs The Imperium of Man! :3
*The God Emperor of Mankind murderstomps them*
Yea, no... one word...
Exterminatus.
*Or **_blinks them from existence_*
+coming up on infra-red What?
+spy cab overlord I was talking to +Pyroskies
Since the Flood exist outside of the force, the Star Wars Universe will get overwhelmed by the Flood in approximately 3 years. By the time Vader and Palpatine begin to figure out what's going on, it's already too late for them to react.
The start of a beautiful series
Multiple ideas, let's see one get done.
1) First Order vs UNSC post Halo 4, fleet battle
2) 2-M Saber class Repulsor Tank vs Armored Assault Tank
3) Rogue Squadron vs Inferno Squadron
4) Behemoth class battlecruiser from StarCraft vs Venator Star Destroyer
5)Harrower dreadnaught vs Venator Star Destroyer
The idea of the flood infecting a force user is a scary thought. If a grave mind discovered or could use the force that's game over
Honestly, considering that this is during the late imperial era, with the empire being the only truely powerful military, this leaves so many planets ripe for the taking. The flood could win regardless of where it starts. If it strikes multiple planets that the empire consider insignificant and unimportant before the battle truely begins, there will not be much room for error on the empire's part.
If the empire can attack the infection before it consumes a large population, or if the flood begins with one planet and the imperials can blockade it, they have a good chance. The key to beating the flood is to wipe them out BEFORE they gain control.
If planets cease communications with the empire, a military force will likely be sent to investigate. However, not being aware of the flood's existance, and not being prepared for this, the forces would be swarmed and slaughtered. Even if the empire prepares a massive military fleet in response to this, all the flold need is one ship to infect another planet. Eventually, too many planets would be overrun, and the resources on them no longer available to the empire. Once the flood has enough control, even the death star couldn't contain them.
If the flood started it's invasion in a more central territory, widespread panic would make the job much easier. Only select imperial high ranking officers and their men, such as thrawn and his fleet, would be able to escape the intitial attack. If thrawn were to survive, the empire might be able to hold out for a long time, but eventually, a lack of resources and reinforcements would leave him vulnerable. And if he is captured early on... no fucking way the empire can combat a massive force with the combined knowledge of enitre galaxies and one of the best tacticians in the galaxy.
The flood stomps any universe that has access to interstellar travel. Even without it I’m sure a key mind would be able to achieve interstellar travel on its own through time. The intelligence factor of a flood infestation is the biggest threat.
From the outset scenario you laid out the Empire has already lost. An isolated planet with no significant military power? The flood would take the world, form a keymind and immediately start sending ships to other places in the unsuspecting galaxy.
Centurion class Battlecruiser vs Harrower class Dreadnaught
well massive loss of life is something that goes against the nature of the force, I could see them getting a vision of whats to come because of that. but even then it would take the empire days or weeks to get there and by that point it may already be too late
Just realized that if the flood basically gains all of the attributes that a host had prior to infection they could use the force if they manage to infect someone who can use it. Imagine an entire army of flood that can pull it's victims towards themselves as well as propel themselves and other flood forms quickly through the air. Along with the force, a lightsaber would be bound to come with it. SO on top of an army of force-wielding hyperintelligent parasites, one would also basically be a jedi/sith.