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The Reapers have 2 things you need to consider. They are half organic, half machine. Secondly, they are extremely thorough in galaxy surveying and mapping. In Jedi Knight, we learn of an ancient temple capable of infusing someone not force sensitive with the force, making them force sensitive. Over time, they become strong with the force. If the Reapers discover this, they would literally become a race of gods instead of just being titanic nightmares.
The thing with The Reapers is, while they are powerful and adaptable what is usually their trump card is that they get civilizations to develop along a path they approve of. Removing that likewise removes a sizable level of their approach to warfare. The Protheans were already locked in a war when The Reapers invaded, so they were not at their best (no I'm not implying they would've survived, I'm just saying they were already weakened). Only time that this rule has been kind of violated was when the Quarians made The Geth, and The Reapers made their subjugation or destruction priority 1 and frankly The Geth's technology was not that screamingly different from organic races Edit: Reaper indoctrination is not like Flood infection. Flood infect a person and gain all of their experiences, knowledge, and understanding in perfect clarity. Reaper indoctrination devolves the brain of the victim. The more they are indoctrinated the stupider they become. Therefore, another weapon of The Reapers is not actually that good when compared to other space horrors in other universes
Additional fun thought: the Reapers and Yuuzhan Vong end up running into each other while both are en route to their invasions. Or just invading simultaneously.
@@Ale-dd3ek DE Sidious and GM Luke teaming up, no invaders stand even a single chance. The flood would be the only concern, but we’re talking literal force gods at that point so who knows.
I think The Old Republic era would have been more interesting because it contains weapons such as The Eternal Fleet, The Grave Stone, Iokath, The Silencers and many other such weaponry that seems to have been lost in the few thousands years, as well as having force welders such as Emperor Valkorion. And yes I know this is not cannon anymore but it would still be interesting.
Brandon Harry If the reapers took the Eternal Fleet and/or Iokath it wouldn’t even be a fight. Hell, Aries might just let them into Iokath, given their similarities. Plus, with so many more Jedi and Sith running around, force-sensitive husks would be a lot easier to come by. The insane and/or stupid ones might join them voluntarily. The Killik hive mind could get taken over like the Rachni, so Alderaan is screwed. The Colicoids would be even worse if they got used as ravagers. The various soul-draining superweapons would be dangerous if the Reapers got them. All of this ignoring that, as KotFE and KotET demonstrated, the main forces of the Republic and Empire are more concerned with fighting each other. As long as reapers think through what they’re doing, they could stomp the old republic era.
What people really forget is that technology still exists its just lost. That's why I think the stars galaxy could beat most verses like war hammer and possibly the flood due to ancient superweapons
I remember seeing on Reddit someone saying that the reapers could beat Darkseid and Apokolips from dc comic books, ill give the link www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/comments/1wjhvb/can_the_reapers_from_mass_effect_conquer/, i was like"......bruh, Darkseid alone would solo the entire mass effect verse with a fart,".
I can see the heavy amounts of star wars bias in this answer, i mean just look and read it and you will see www.quora.com/What-would-happen-if-the-Imperium-of-Man-Warhammer-40k-meets-the-Sith-Empire-Star-Wars/answer/Raven-Celestia
The reapers arent invincible, they are hybrid dreadnought spaceships, with unique qualities. If anyone bothers to mention god like beings in comics its pathetic, no competition whatsoever of course they win. It's not fair to compare like that and it's a middle finger to anyone who likes the mass effect universe.
The Reapers are ancient, and patient in the extreme. More, they are in a perfect position to start influencing droids. The fundamental question is--how does the Force react to them?
considering if the reapers were made in the star wars galaxy they would most definitely each be a wound in the force themselfs and if that counted even if their from another galaxy i think anyone force sensitive would feel like a living abomination was coming towards them since for example when the shadow mass generator went off in the mandolorian wars or when order 66 and aldoran was destroyed its a massive disturbance in the force that just feels wrong now imagine that but since its still happening cus reapers are basically one mass of a dead species trapped into a cybernetic body and mind it would be akin to a living force wound that no one ever stops feeling and it would be like that for each reaper ship so each reaper would feel like a mass in the force of terror pain horror and infinite suffering basically terror incarnate and since reapers assimilate tech like the borg but are better at it i can see them finding out like many younger species have how to artifically use the force or give it to someone meaning they could technically if they are patient which since their plans take 50.000 thousand years normally i would say they are would eventially not only develop force sensitivity themselfs but to anyone who encounters them with the force but is weak of will they would be akin to a banshee in your mind so they would run most people over before having to fire a shot. plus if before they worked out the force a darkside being like palpatine or valkorion or any other powerful force entity worked out what they were they could possibly influence them to a extent but the odds that they would be able to is low in my opinon since reapers are organic AI technically plus the reapers woulden't reveal themselfs without alot of prepwork so palpatine valkorion or any force entity would be able to sense them in terms of them being wounds in the force but woulden't neccesarly be able to find them since for example when the jedi exile meets the jedi masters in kotor 2 they cannot see the exile in the force because their a living wound so it would make sense if the reapers were each living wounds palpatine for example woulden't be able to sense them he would feel a dark horrible presence like the jedi felt with him but he woulden't be able to narrow the presence down to a being or location.
The Star War Galaxy could probably survive & even defeat a Reaper invasion, though dozens if not hundreds of planets would be decimated, either from successful Reaper ground invasion or from orbital bombardments to stop the spread of ground based Reaper forces. It would have to take a long time for the Reapers to defeat the Star War Galaxy, probably by long-term indoctrination.
DrakeMarvell But Star Wars Universe missing key components for Reapers chance of winning. I do believe the Outer Rim will be fucked but once they get to the Midrim,they be getting hit hard.
Jesse12489 Yeah, so the best possible way for the Reapers to win would be to play the extremely long game. Long-term indoctrination over thousands of planets & countless species. Might take centuries or even millennia, but they might be able to win that way....
DrakeMarvell In legends,an imperial grand admiral Zaarin had seceded from the Empire several months before Endor. The only actual advantage that he had was a technology of producing TIE Defenders,which he stole. The empire was literally on the verge of collapse. Endor was merely a coup de grace. Reapers could have simply torn the Empire apart in a couple of years by manipulating on imperial leaders and officials greed and lust for power,which would have grinded down military potential of the galaxy. Technological differences could have been negated by indoctrinating leaders or crews of star wars ships,or using husks to crew them
They wouldn't even get that far to be honest. The only thing that made reapers even a threat in mass effect is the fact that all the technology the enemy used was based on their tech and that none of the ships in mass effect had energy weapons and that barriers on ships were not designed to defend against energy weapons.
There're a few caveats with this, however, that make this whole thing far less straightforward though. First of all, the Reapers also harvest all technology from those civilizations they conquer - which means they'd likely very quickly obtain hyperspace capability - as well as superior weapons and shielding, so long as they were careful not to draw too much attention to themselves and stuck to either salvaging old and ancient wrecks of ships/weapons until they got a hang on the design/function of said tech and had the chance to produce enough themselves to upgrade their forces, plus if they hit severally isolated worlds with little-to-no contact with the galaxy at large, they MIGHT be able to build up their forces of indoctrinated and converted forces - maybe even manage to produce another Reaper or two depending on a plethora of factors. But, here's where things get REALLY tricky. The Reapers are made from living creatures - in some astoundingly horrific ways I might add - and there's no way that wouldn't hit every force-wielder like a freight train. I imagine it would feel like the Jedi purge or the destruction of Alderaan except drawn WAY out, and would almost certainly create more than a few major Force wounds - Hell, I imagine that through the Force, the Reapers look like a never-ending fireworks display of horribleness. They may even carry Force wounds within them or count a wound themselves which brings me to this question, which threatens to throw every other easement into uncertainty; Would the Reapers have the potential to harness the dark side of the Force? Even if their origin from a universe without midichlorians make them unable to, their very presence would almost certainly throw the Force into chaos - add in indoctrination allowing them to more or less rewire an organic's brain into a state that would also lean more towards the dark side, and it makes answering a question like this much harder than what it seems at first. Granted, I still think the Star Wars universe would win, but it could be far more costly than first surmised. That's my thoughts on it anyways.
While i agree somewhat with your assessment i think the more likely and more terrifying outcome would be the dark side of the force using the reapers. I could imagine potent dark side users like The emperor converting the reapers and somehow retrofitting them into army making super weapons.
@@fatherofjman2475 Maybe some bias involved from my side here, but given the nature of Reapers and how they always try to make sure of maximum efficiency- being computers and all - it's far more likely that they'd get to the Emperor before the latter gets a wind of what hit him. It is a sort of plot armor you could say.
The Reapers beat their creators, the Leviathans, and those things could mind control people and easily disable starships with their minds. In my book, the Emperor's goose would be far beyond cooked.
i always wondered how the reapers would do against the flood and ask myself questions like: can the logic plague affect the reapers? can graveminds be indoctrinated? like seriously
@@blaze_unleashed7286 Depends how much biomass the flood gets before fighting the Reapers. At peak-flood, they can practically bend the laws of reality and can corrupt AI capable of controlling entire Forerunner fleets, fleets where each ship could take on the entire Reaper forces on their own. Peak-flood would and could use the logic plague on the Reapers and would easily defeat them. Graveminds already have computing power rivaling powerful AI. Keyminds and the like would probably be relatively unaffected, for graveminds it would depend on size and computing power.
@@awildridehome9469 The leviathans that created the harbinger were basically gods that did whatever they want and they were all single handedly destroyed by the harbinger alone which then turned them all into reapers and in mass effect their indoctrination power works on biotic creatures while the floods works on ai which means they'd both work against each other, however, the reapers are basically creatures turned into a machine as shown when the collectors attempt to make a human reapers so I don't know if that changed anything but I do know that the only time the logic plague was shown was when it was used on one ai at a time as well as it taking some time to kick in. The leviathans were able to shut down a large reaper and also take over their thralls with their artifacts and powers alone which is the only time a reaper was destroyed quickly besides at the end of the game. I feel like in this case the reapers would have an advantage here as in the game they control both living and robotic creatures and bend them to their will with no effort at all. Also if just one of the leviathans had the power to instantly shut down a capital size reaper then why couldn't they have destroyed the harbinger which I think means he's far more powerful than the normal ones since he was actually made from the leviathans rather than their dead bodies turned into machines.
@@cyonu5675 That's mostly just speculation. We have no evidence to suggest Harbinger is any more powerful than normal, and we know from the dialogue with the Leviathan that they were defeated by the AI and its army of servants by the dialogue "It created an army of pawns that searched the galaxy, gathering this data. There was no warning, no reason given when they turned against us. Only slaughter" That means the Starchild was capable of assembling an army that could destroy the Leviathans, before Harbinger existed, seeing as we also hear "It choose our kind as the first harvest. From our essence, the first Reaper was created. You call it Harbinger". If the Leviathans were as powerful as you suggest, there is simply no way the pawns of the Starchild would be able to process enough Leviathans to make a Reaper. So we know the Leviathan simply, are not anywhere near as powerful as you suggest. If they were, the Starchild and the pawns it created could never have won. The Flood, with enough biomass, would likely have no issues with indoctrination. Indoctrination is described as "energy fields" that are manipulated to control the minds of living creatures. The Flood are a hivemind, even if indoctrination could affect Flood in a limited area, it would not affect the Flood hivemind as a whole, since there aren't these energy fields present everywhere the Flood presumably would be. Indoctrination also seemingly takes a while to kick-in. The logic plague took *some* time against the most advanced AI to ever exist, an AI that singlehandedly managed millions of ships and an empire far larger than almost any other we've seen in sci-fi. Halo is, simply put, on a completely different level of power-scaling. There is not much point in comparing the two once you get into forerunner-flood-precursor territory. Both are excellent works of fiction, mind you, just not comparable in scale. 40K Universe is probably the only thing that rivals or outscales the late-end Halo stuff. And even then, the Forerunner empire would probably decimate at least most of the forces of the current 40K universe and some of the old ones too.
Woudlt it be more logical, that if the reapers are already spectating the star wars galaxy for a long time, that they would use es oppertunity to start their attack during the clone wars? The reapers would get several advantages: 1- The force sensitive (Jedi/Sith) are completly busy by fighting in the war and or leading forces 2- The Reapers in ther kind of being as mechanicle hive mind could be abled to take over the droids of the seperatists, and even increase them by software upgrades like they did with the geth. 3- The Reapers could also use the entier seperatist forces by indoctrinating for example count dooku, in mass effect you can see, that characters with a high personal interest in might, progress or strength are more vulnerable to indoctrination thats nowhere in the literature but its pretty obviouse to see. If the reapers would have offered the seperatists a deal, its would be easy for them to indoctrinate dooku. Giving them an enormous extra forces and more important an force sensitive being that they can control and maybe improve. 4- (Here I estimate that point 3 alreasy has happend or is happening atm) While the military forces of the republic are out in war against the seperatist forces, the Reapers could try to sneak in the core and start a full invasion of coruscant leading to the death of the leading jedis, politicians and most important palpatine. In Mass effect it always was the first point on the repears to do list to destroy the galaxys government (citadel trap), and in ME3 we learn, that the moment from where you can notice the reapers with scanners to the moment they arrive and attack ist pretty damn short and definitly to short to call back your forces that are in battles elsewhere. The reapers couldt beat the entire galaxy in an all out war, but overwhelming one plant even an extremly guarded one like courucsant should work. The created chaos and the controlled seperatist forced should make the reapers an extremly great threat to the galaxy. 5-(This one is completly speculative and an own idea) In the ME Universe FTL drives are realised by the mass effect cores in the spacecrafts, this mass effect cores are able to manipulate gravity and the reapers have far more powerful cores. While there are indeed no Mass relays in the star wars galaxy there are hyperlane routes, large pretty damn empty corridores where ships can travel safely in FTL Drive. Imageine the Reapers could make use of the mass effect cores to create, manipulate the mass in these corridores and force for example greate gas clouds to move into the lanes, making them impossible to pass and even worse, leading to the destruction of all ships trying to use it.The Reapers created the Mass relays, which use their cores to create an matter free lane to travel, who says, that they cant build a station that can do vice versa with an hyperlane route? The Reapers were always great in adapapting their strategies, at least thats what we learn from javik in ME3, and also what we see in the games. in ME They used the Geth against the Quarians, their brute force against the turians knowing that they wouldnt stand a chance with their all out war mentalitiy, prevent the krogans from becoming a factor in a invasion on galaxy scale by defending the mantle, indoctrinating cerberus to gaining another army, and IF ME1 would have failed first strike on the citadel wiping out the government, and blocking access to the mass relays. Using the weakspots of your enemy was always the reapers key to success. their strategy in the star wars galaxy should be the same, because we learn that the reapers adapt there strategy based on their enemy but the main points always stay the same. first strike in the political heart --> attack coruscant indoctrinating native forces --> seperatists disableing ftl access (blocking access to mass relays) --> destroying hyperlane routes wiping out species for species creating new reapers --> same brining the AI on their side and improving them (Geth) --> droids Reapers always plan their invasion for a long long time, making them extremly dangerous because they know you but you dont know them. I believe that the reapers could win vs the starwars galaxy, not by brute force but by strategy. So if the reapers would plan to invade the star wars galaxy, they would plan for hundreds or thousands of years, and I am pretty sure, that they would only attack if they see an oppertunity that would pay out great for them like the clone wars.
Only if they make it in time, thats like the only opportunity i see, even during the fall of the empire would probably would not work as at that time there was a group called the yuuzang vong surrounding the star wars galaxy that was waiting for the empire to fall so they could conquer the star wars galaxy after they destroyed their own, so i would imaginethat the reapes would be crushed under the vongs rage. And to be honest the reapers would have probably stayed around the galaxy to wait for new life to advance, and since the vong were coming anyway, war with the reapers would be inevitable.
FTL stands for faster than light btw which means they are able to travel faster than ships going through lightspeed in Star Wars. Also Reapers never go with brute force it's always a strategy game to them.
I disagree heavyly based on some wrong assumptions by our dear Ladder 1. Since the SW Turbolasers use Plasma the Kinetic Barriers are effective because plasma has mass that can be stopped. 2. The non Reaper Ships in ME use Laserbased weapons for fights within 10 km range and reaper shields are effective against those too. 3. reapers have incredible hard armor to the point where entire fleets shoot them and it takes virtualy ages to bring them down even if the shields are offline. 4.reapers can easyly take over the droids in SW as with the Geth in ME. With an army of assasin robots, astromecs that sabotage the SW ships, tactical droids that provide fatal wrong data to the comanders etc. the empire will have a hard time fighting with max power. 5. Reapers have time. centurys of time to prepare. they would start to subtile indoctrinate planets in the outer rim, use the ships they have and augment them like with the collectors maximising numbers and firepower on there side. 6. Reapers are genius, they contain the combined mind of an entire species per reaper. from the first plantes they indoctrinate they learn all the weapons, common strategies and other intel of the SW galaxy. 7. Reaper ships have an much much higher effective fire range and 100% hit rate. Stardestroyers rarely hit things that are small or fast or halfway far away. 8. Sith are already corrupt and therefor in my thought easy to indoctrinate. 9.Reapers have the ability to fight anywhere, dictating the battlefield conditions. SW ships have been shown to have trouble with gravitation, nebulas and other space occurences like steroid fields. 10.sw already has hunge inner trouble and would not be able to to figh the reapers full force
chr12k6 also disagree. In the codex it says that the reapers barriers could be taken down by concentrated fire of three ships. We also saw a reaper get taken down with a missile hit to its main weapon. Look at the turians they were able to fight reaper fleets better than most but didn't have the numbers to sustain it. The empire alone has many more ships than the council races and base their battle tactics around capital ships. The mass effect governments were limited by their own laws restricting how many ships they could have. One executor class star destroyer had more weapons than a whole fleet. You mention the geth, you do know they gave themselves over to the old machines to avoid being destroyed. Look at the ground forces the only ones using heavy vehicles other than transports was Cerberus and they weren't joining the fight against them. Not the case in the Star Wars galaxy. Even if atat's and turbo laser towers don't punch through the barriers instantly they have fire power to fight reapers on the ground. You mention time but the reapers don't have dark space to hide in also they don't have the tech advantage. The reapers guided their galaxy down the path they wanted and when they came in they were the biggest baddest things around. If they come to the empire they are smaller than damn near every capitol ship. Also just for icing on top empire had the capability to destroy entire planets never saw reaper have that much firepower. Like I said I love mass effect ,replayed original trilogy a dozen times. The empire though wins this every time.
3 main ships with unsaid ammount of time. look what the souveran did with the citadel defence fleet and the 5th aliance navy fleet bevore sheppard shut of the shields by killing saren. the citadell council only regulated how many Dreadnoughts a species was allowed to build the reaper used viruses to controle the geth. krogans used tanks and turian fighter aircraft and could not kill the reaper on the ground without kalros. atats are unshielded and that makes them oneshot from reapers. also they are poorly designed tanks with the legs and guns that cant shoot to the back. there are plenty uncovered systems and empty space in sw galaxy to hide out. NOt tech advantage? reapers are pure tech with the intelligence of whole species and the knowledge how to create stuff in the galaxy core in between multiple black holes. the ai is far far superior to anything sw has. Reapers are, with 2km bigger than imerial 2 stardestroyers that only have 1km. the reapers never wanted to destroy planets because that minimises the ammunt of organics they can harvest. and the empire has only the deathstar that needs 24hrs recharge after one full blow.
chr12k6 I will begin by saying I agree with points 1, 2, 3, 6 and 7. I believe Reaper armor and shields are at least equivalent if not superior to Imperial versions of shields and armor. That being said it would only allow them to meet head to head not overwhelm like they did in ME. Additionally their superior firing ranges would give them a temporary advantage in battle but the Imperial ships would either close the distance or drop out of hyperspace right on top of them quickly negating it. Also their superior intelligence would allow them to pursue unorthodox battle strategies that would further give them an edge in battle. All this is to say that when the battle is on their terms Reapers will win most of the time, but when it's not that's when things fall apart fast. As for points 4, 5, 8, 9 and 10 I have to disagree. Point 4, the Reapers probably wouldn't be able(or even try) to take over the droids. Most droids aren't wireless(the Trade Federation's droid army was in Ep. 1 but that was changed following those events), so the only way to infect them is through direct indoctrination(which never appeared to work in ME against similar artificial beings) or indirect indoctrination via their programmers(and that would only apply to new or well cared for droids which in the Empire was relatively rare). The virus you are referring to was developed by the Geth(with the aid of the Reapers) to be used against other Geth. Such a virus would work because the Geth are all networked together(mostly). The droids of SW lacking that critical element means it would take too much time and effort to undermine them in that way. Point 5, they probably wouldn't have centuries to plan. At least not within the parameters of this scenario. In all likelihood the Force would detect their presence and notify the Emperor either directly or through one of his subordinates. Not that it would give them specific information but the warning would be enough followed by probe droids. After that it would only be a matter of time before the Empire reacted. Point 8, the Sith being corrupt and them being indoctrinated are completely different things. Sith philosophy exaults the individual and their singular power and ability to do things. Combined with the Force, I can think of no other being more able to resist indoctrination. Point 9, you are correct it is a huge advantage, but only if they have space superiority. If they don't they're simply easier targets to kill given most of the energy they create goes toward making their bodies light enough to operate on the ground. That's why a Thresher Maw was able to kill one. And they definitely wouldn't have space superiority for reasons I'll get to in a moment. Point 10, the Empire's problems weren't that great and they were mostly self inflicted. Put up against a large and powerful invading force(which the Alliance never was) is what the Empire is optimized to fight. Ultimately what makes the Empire come out on top has nothing to do with any of this. The Empire has the resources of a Galaxy to draw on and a massive military already in place. It takes a long time to make a Reaper and it requires the biomass of entire planets to build one. Because of this the Reapers would only have the resources they came with and no more. Indoctrination takes time which the Empire wouldn't give them. Their main ships are roughly equivalent but there is simply more Imperial ships. Combined with their super weapons and the Empire wins most of the time. Like I said in my comment, I agree with the overall analysis and conclusion of the video. I just took issue with the idea Reapers would be supplementary units in the Alliance.
chr12k6 no they did not control the geth. The geth in mass effect 1 sided withe the reapers. Legion told us that in mass effect 2. Then in 3 they sided with them again and were given the reaper code to enhance their effectiveness. Sovereign wasn't a normal reaper it was a vanguard unit even bigger than harbinger. Those weren't tanks at best they were an armed troop transport. Also they weren't able to get into range of the reaper that's why they changed plans to summon a thresher maw.
Yes of course they can The invasion fleet attacking Reach was over 500 ships including the massive CAS assault carriers and a CSO supercarrier I'm pretty sure the CSO and a few cruisers are all that's needed to defeat coruscant
If they can Dock onto the Death Star, Mass Effect. Mass Effect's Rank and File are superior to all non Force Users. Shepherd and his crew could probably beat Force Users.
IDK, while the power level between the Covenant and Star Wars can be debatable, The UNSC still basically use 22nd and 23rd century weapons. So it's more of a even match up for them to fight a smaller faction rather than, say, the Empire or the Republic
Star child: it is inevitable that organics will get destroyed by their synthetics, hmm...how can I fix this...I know! Create a race of synthetics that destroy organics before they can make their own synthetics that destroy them.
Actualy i dont think the reapers would even try to attack the SW in numbers! And without a warning they may be already to strong embeded in the galaxy for even Palpatine or Vader to do anything! Plus the Reapers could harvest Outer Rim planets and grow their numbers way before anyone could notice!
I think they would remember the Reapers are patient and they could easily indoctrinate others without them realizing it might not work on Sith or Jedi but their numbers are incredibly small compaired to a whole galaxy of weaker minded beings
Not to mention for every outer rim colony or planet they harvest they adapt their own technology to their harvest. By the time they have the numbers for a full scale reaping they could be completely immune to whatever the Empire has to throw at them. Not to mention being machines they can hack pretty much anything and gain all the info they need remotely. Also, being telepaths, they could potentially learn to use the Force from analyzing captured Force-sensitives. They could potentially stay hidden from other force-sensitives because they are inherently neutral, neither good nor evil. And if you have Force-wielding Reapers, it's game over.
That’s what I’m saying they can harvest sooo many people in the Star Wars universe, and hardly anyone would know because of how big their galaxy is, imagine, harvested wookies, rancor’s, trandocians(bossks species), mamdalorians, twileks, etc, the reapers are like a parasite
Yeah, this is one thing people don’t realize. It took the reapers 6 months from reaching the alpha relay to finally reach another star system with a mass relay. That means even a few light years would be longer than the longest hyperspace jumps in Star Wars. The mass relays seem to take a few minutes or maybe an hour to reach their destination, at least from Ilos to the citadel, but without it the FTL drives of even the reapers are severely underpowered.
I have three suggestions Reapers vs The Borg The Flood vs The Usong Vong UNSC Earth Defense Fleet vs the Republic Fleet present at the Battle of Curosant (I don't know how well the numbers of ships line up, but is interesting regardless)
I think people really overhype the Reapers, they are not invincible gods - their main advantage is that they could isolate empires by shutting down the mass relay network. Rather than facing a united Galaxy they could take out smaller garrisons at their leisure. They also didn't mind taking their time with planets, starving them, having generations grow up in an apocalyptic war where they are not even aware that there is a galaxy-spanning empire, etc. Another thing is that this network allowed them to sow dissent in galaxy's before-hand. While this might be possible in the starwars universe even without that advantage (maybe trying to play forces against one another such as aiding another droid uprising.) they would most certainly not have something like the Geth assisting them. I also don't think they'd work with the Rebel Alliance as they seem to prefer Artificial life much more than organic life for grand scale operations.
They could easily travel though without the use of hyperspace lanes and could also easily disrupt and destroy them with there element zero. The galaxy would have to forge new ones giving the Reapers plenty of time to wage war on smaller factions, destroy the seats of government and indoctrinate new vassals
i believe eckharts here, the reapers would strategically have to offer themselves as extra capital ships to the rebels, slowly indoctrinating them, until when the rebels inevitably take over the government they just lend it right over to them. if you think i'm wrong, sue me.
The logic plague applied to single "mind" AI, a Reaper is "each a nation" of minds & entities. I think that would provide some heavy resistance to the logic plague the Flood can cause. And, the Reaper minds are in their titanic bodies. That I know of from Halo lore, the Flood only got to plague AI it had captured and held near a Gravemind. Reapers couldn't be held in such a way, however, the Gravemind could theoretically reach out through comm channels and talk to Reapers that way.
The flood are capable of capturing ships with relative ease. The gravemind was capable of torturing an AI, so I imagine it would be capable of doing the same to a reaper. In addition to the torture, they take over ships with their biomass often. The reapers aren't very effective at killing things around them, ironically. As seen by the fact they turn themselves and fire their weapons very slowly. (And the issues they had with killing a single person with their giant lasers several times, even one-on-one.) In the scenario OP mentioned, an entire galaxy would be infected by the flood. Which means keyminds would be abundant, which are just sentient planets that have INCREDIBLE amounts of knowledge. (Logic plague also gets stronger and more effective when keyminds are around.) The reapers wouldn't be able to rely on their main ways of cleansing planets either: Their organic armies. The hulls of the reapers were shown to be broken easily by the Normandy's main weapon too. So, I imagine a MAC cannon would have about the same effect, assuming it's the Milky Way in the Halo universe they've taken over. Flood infected ships would give them a challenge in space, while planets themselves would be taking over the reapers that land. Either by use of the logic plague, or by just killing the reapers and keeping their bodies. Indoctrination wouldn't be able to affect the flood either (Keyminds controlling them). But, again, the logic plague is the most likely to work against them. The logic plague isn't just a simple virus or anything. It comes from them receiving information that makes them question their entire existence. The reapers having a linked mind may even be the BIGGEST downfall of them in this case, since they were created and given a very simple purpose by a snobby ethereal child. Sovereign was shown to enjoy debating existence with Shepard in the first game. Meaning they'd probably be open to it with the Flood. The reason for the Flood's existence alone has caused everyone that's ever heard it to commit suicide. Imagine how the reapers will feel to find out their way of life is just empty and pointless, by something that's even older and wiser than they are, to prevent them from just giving the "You are incapable of understanding our motives" cop-out Shepard was given. They'd be open to debating existence, and so would a keymind. Only difference being the Flood have all the answers, while the reapers have a VERY narrow view of the universe.
Probably considering the Ori don't have an invasion force big enough and they're weapons aren't powerful enough. I mean most Ori ships had one main weapon and a handful of pulse weapons. When compared to ships from other shows they aren't really that strong. Plus the only thing that the Ori have that could even remotely combat a sith or jedi are their priests.
There should be a Crossover Movie or television series of Star Wars and Mass Effect with the Jedi & Sith and they're Armies both teaming up for the first time to fight against the Reapers
Replicators could be overpowered by enought powerfull energy weapons, and are vulnerable to projectile weapons so they are not as hard unstopable as flood or tyranids
What if the Millennium Falcon *IS* a Reaper? Did the key Rebels spend lots of time around it? Check. Was it present at key setbacks for the Empire? Check.
General Doesbaddel I think there was an episode of new Who where they had a galaxy spanning human Empire fight a war with the Cybermen. It took them many years but eventually the Cybermem were beaten. Would be an interesting and comparable scenario to see the Star Wars Empire fight the Cybermen
IIRC, Nightmare in Silver showed that the humans had to resort to blowing up planets at the first sign of a Cyberman invasion and eventually destroyed an entire galaxy by unknown means just to put the Cybermen down.
it would be incredible but impossible, the ship was already in bad shape and above all unable to escape the attraction of a planet, Starkiller only dealt the final blow 🫠
Force sensitive individuals would surely sense something is off when around a Reaper and, if trained enough, probably fight indoctrination and warn others about it.
The lowest calcs for 40k ships firepower is 300-500 megatons with the highest being dozens of gigatons, that the infinity's pathetic 50 megaton main weapons could even scratch the retribution is hillarious. The retribution is also far faster (40k ships can reach 0.7C in real space), is way more heavily armed, has multiple overlapping void shields and has an effective lance range measuring in light seconds. The Infinity doesn't stand a chance in hell. Of comparable universes only EU Star Wars ships can go toe to toe with 40k ones.
Javik actually mentions a planet in the citadel DLC that was so lethal to invade they decided to destroy it from orbit, so I would say since Javik mentions that, the reapers gave the capability of glassing a planet as well.
The video was great! One small err though. You mentioned that the Reaper forces consist of thousands of ships, but throughout the ME trilogy there are at least a few times where their numbers are said to be in the hundreds of thousands. This could perhaps make some sort of difference in the invasion (not likely enough to turn the tide, however).
As always, the Reapers' greatest weapon is their stealth and subversion. They would have key people indoctrinated before attacking, like they did to the Batarian Empire. They would also find ways to reconfigure what unknown tech or challenge to be an advantage for themselves.
Reapers are just extremely strong, and even if they are discovered, they destroy everything. Took an entire fleet to kill one reaper. Star wars have no Chance
I think it would have actually been more interesting to set this hypothetical during the Clone Wars. The Reapers would have absolutely gone after the separatist droid armies and influential leaders and uplift/upgrade them to join their cause.
liked and subscribed dude. The Reapers are smarter than that. They are going to start much like they did in ME 1. They would start as one, like Sovereign posing as just a ship. This one Reaper would make itself available to someone greedy for power they could not get otherwise someone corruptable who no one would suspect. They would gather Intel. probably reactivating the droid army and using them to build up shock troopers while analyzing the galaxy for quick travel routs, finding the the weak spots. They would probably his in the outer rim. once they have built a sizable force of shock troopers and indoctrinated individuals "Sovereign " would signal the invasion. The rebels would be overwhelmed. there were Millions of Reapers in ME3. some big like Harbinger, some smaller like ther reaper on Rannoch. All with the capability to indoctrinate. The empire would be next. They would go after the Super Weapon first swarming it. The death star is one weapon that could stop them quickly. just hit a nearby planet with Reapers on it you cut down numbers. husks would swarm Coruscant and other populated epicenters, but Reapers haven't encountered the force. It's highly possible that the Emperor and Vader could do damage there. The imperial fleet can sure as hell wreak havoc provided they aren't all indoctrinated.
The Reapers are probably in the thousands, as when they gathered their "Full force" to Earth during the end of Mass Effect 3, it didn't seem that significant. However, I would give the advantage of surprise a lot more than just Sovereign. They'd just show up in force as Sovereign was left behind only to monitor. The only reason Sovereign had to go in without bringing the others in was because a signal was sent to the Citadel that was shut down by the last remaining Protheans on the Citadel
Don't the Salarians primarily use 'ultraviolet lasers'? The geth and quarians seem to often use energy weapons, too. Asari, quite possibly, too. I don't think it's true to say most weapons in the 'Mass Effect' continuity are projectile based.
The Geth actually utilize ultraviolet lasers. Since they're not depented on wages, rest and other economic factors, resources are utilized to make top notch equipment. Just look up the Geth Dreadnought in Mass Effect 3.
Conor Kelly I don't even think the quarians have them. They're strapped for resources since all they're homeworlds are in Geth control. Plus they're fleet is in rugged condition since most of the ships are close three centuries old. They had to retrofit they're Liveships to be on par with Cruisers
It still doesnt matter though.Legends numbers for the Star wars ships are in the billions and realistically it should be more considering the number of planets in the galaxy. On top of that the Empire has multiple superweapons and there is likely a technology difference between the Star Wars universe and the Mass Effect verse.That and the fact that the force exist, which relies entirely on living beings to operate and wouldn't, I imagine,like it if a random race of machines came to try to obliterate life from the galaxy.You could definitely see most force users being warned or detecting them as soon as they entered the system, even if they can't use or aren't affected by it simply because of the sheer amount of people they've killed
@@-Extra_Lives one reaper = 20 000 000 organics. There is no doubt in my mind that this race of being is one of the most powerful creatures in fiction. There maybe more and better tech in sw but reapers are sentient beings over 100 000 000 years old they would win any and every war in sw uni.
This is a joke of a video. There are 25 thousand star destroyers. And thats only 1 class if ships. In mass effect we only got to see 200 some reaper ships at the ending of Me2. Make it max 1000 reapers attacking the galaxy. They would get destroyed with ease
Also reapers don't tend to invade galaxies at full force, they tend to move in waves, and with how the sw universe is not united, reapers would indoctrinate and have factions fight with each other to weaken themselves. Turn all ai controlled droids on their side, and start sabotaging their ships.
In ME1 just ONE reaper almost annihilated the entire human and asari fleets protecting the Citadel. It made short work of the asari dreadnought the Destiny Ascension. Now imagine 200 hundred reapers...
Biggest weakness of the Reapers is their historic tactic to shut off target race's access to Mass Relay FTL to limit their ability to reinforce and re-supply. The Empire has a Galaxy wide logistical structure designed to support the Imperial Navy. Also, its never been shown for the Reapers to have their own dedicated logistical base beyond the Collector's base to turn captured organic matter into new Reapers. The Empire would be able to not only project power against the Reapers, but logistically maintain that force as well.
There’s one simple fact that most of you, Star Wars fans keep overlooking about the reapers. The reapers play the long game, the reapers will send a single ship like sovereign to start indoctrinating, and once they have key people indoctrinated, that’s when the invasion starts. And with the amount of species that are in the Star Wars universe, imagine the husks, and everything that could be made.
@@Direwolf9818 A fair counterargument. But I would note that Palpatine, as a Sith, was raised on the idea of the long game and was the pinnacle of the Sith's 2000-year-long game to destroy the Jedi and Republic. So he wouldn't be as caught off guard by the Reapers as one would think. Also, with the Reaper habit of making Husks out of entire planetary populations, do you think Palpatine would hesitate to use the Imperial Navy to counter this with a planet-burning orbital bombardment!?! That's essentially what Imperial Class Star Destroyers were designed for!
The reapers have 20000 of there largest ships while also having over 50000 destroyer class ships, reapers biggest sizes range from 2-5 kilometers in size, Star destroyers are 1600 meters in length or 1.6 kilometers, destroyer class reapers are 160 meters in height so the imperials do have the upper hand in numbers but with indoctrination the reapers can use it to control anyone over a small period of time, boosting their own numbers, and the reapers have the technology to create different types of reaper creatures as we saw from mass effect 3, just imagine a Wookiee reaper 😳
@@roythemailboy5751 That is true and I think that the Reapers might even hold the Imperial fleet at a stalemate if all of both sides fleets engaged at once or even stalemate each other in smaller skirmishes. The bad part for the Reapers though is that they would still take a lot of heavy losses from fighting the Empire and even if they were able to win they’d still have the untold trillions of other people in the Star Wars galaxy who would stand against them likely in a similar scenario to the races of Mass Effect. I think the Reapers could beat the empire’s fleet but I don’t think they’d be able to do so without taking too many casualties to actually conquer the rest of the galaxy imo. They’d be required to indoctrinate a *ton* to replenish and by then the rebels would also be stepping in noticing the huge threat that just took on the Empire
I don’t know, the USC lacks shields, lacks plasma weapons AND is much smaller in number than the Imperium. And they thought a significant portion of the imperium’s military to a standstill in the Damocles crusade... I give victory to the Tau based on one side having void shields, and one side not. In fact, this is very much in the same vein of how the Covenant fleet beat the UNSC in open combat... better survivability, arguably better weapons. On the ground, same thing.
the Tau Empire would, unfortunately, absolutely stomp the UNSC out of existence. They have technology and weapons that make UNSC technology look backwards in comparison, with the only exception being the more recent forerunner FTL and shield upgrades.
Tau would probably beat both. I recommend looking at spacebattles.com, they've done this debate many times in the vs debates forum. With the exception of NOVA bombs, UNSC and Covenant don't have the firepower to deal with 40k factions.
Ok, several things: 1st - GREAT video as always dude. I love how you always put a lot of time and effort into all your videos; 2nd - with point number 1 being said however, my opinion is that you're making the SAME mistake that EVERYONE (at least as far as I know) makes, namely that there are ONLY a few thousand Reapers. Remember that in Mass Effect 1, Sovereign ITSELF tells Shepherd "Our numbers will darken the skies of every world". And I'll admit that at first I thought the same thing as MOST people: that this statement was merely an intimidation tactic, that is until the Leviathan DLC from Mass Effect 3, where the Leviathan ITSELF tells Shepherd that "countless" Cycles occurred BEFORE the "Intelligence"/Reapers constructed the Mass Relays and Citadel, and that "countless" more Cycles occurred BEFORE the "Harvest" was streamlined to the 50,000 year Cycle. And yet ANOTHER thing that MOST people assume is that the small percentage of the galaxy (about 10% i believe, but please correct me if I'm wrong) is the ONLY part of the galaxy that has Advanced Space-faring Species, and that ONLY the Species known to Council Space exist. A PERFECT example of this is the Rachni, who were an ADVANCED Space-faring Species first encountered AFTER the activation of a DORMANT Mass Relay that lead to UNEXPLORED space. So either it's completely IMPOSSIBLE for ANY other ADVANCED Space-faring Species to have EVER existed BEYOND the "known space" of ALL the Civilizations that eventually discovered the Citadel, OR the Reaper numbers are in the MINIMUM of the MILLIONS, if not TENS OF MILLIONS or MORE. And I can honestly hear it now from people dissagreeing with me posting my personal opinion: "oh NO, you're absolutely WRONG! The Reapers seen in the Mass Effect games are the ONLY Reapers in existence, and you're personal opinion is WRONG and STUPID!!" I've literally lost count of how many times I've seen people post something similar in their reaction to someone posting a comment they disagree with. But regardless, again GREAT video as always dude. Just my own personal opinion anyway.
Here something to clarify. the Reapers conceptually within the context the MEs story (that being the "harvesting all prominent organic life every 50000 years" and they are pretty close to a billion years old) the Reapers should have somewhere around 20000 ships/Reapers. Also presumably A: they didn't make artificial Ships or mass produced them. B: the cycles consistently only had 1 prominent species. and C they didn't suffer many losses after there makers.
@@DeathDragon5000 I can definitely respect your point of view, and it does makes sense. However, the point I was making was that it's impossible for the Reapers to limit their 'Harvest' of all advanced organic and synthetic Species to ONLY those who have discovered the Citadel. UNLESS the current cycle from the Mass Effect Trilogy and the previous Prothian cycle were the ONLY two cycles where just around roughly 10% or so of the galaxy was explored, and ALL other previous cycles encompassed 100% of the galaxy, then the actual number of Reapers across the ENTIRE galaxy would be exponentially higher. Given that, it stands to reason that the number of Reapers encountered in the Mass Effect Trilogy (around 20,000 as you said, and I honestly believe that's a fairly accurate rough estimate) represents only a FRACTION of the TOTAL number of Reapers across the ENTIRE galaxy, most of which is unexplored by the Species that have discovered the Citadel. THAT was the main point that I was trying to make. But that aside, again I can definitely respect your point of view, and I honestly believe that your estimate of around 20,000 Reapers is fairly accurate, at least as far as the number of Reapers in the small percentage of the galaxy known/inhabited by Species from the Mass Effect Trilogy goes.
Do you think you could try something involving the 40k universe? Like could the Star Wars universe survive an invasion from the Imperium of Mankind/Chaos and the warp/Tyranids/Ork *Waaagh* /Tau/Necrons/(Dark)Eldar etc. There is just so much potential here and I'd love for you to explore it. :)
The Warhammer galaxy vs Star Wars might be more fair, so long as the Warhammer one didn't unite. The Imperium is hard pressed by enemies, and likewise would have a hard time fighting off the Star Wars galaxy. Personally I think SW would fair best in the Clone Wars era, with Sidious uniting the CIS and Republic to fight against the Imperium of Man.
RenegadeParagon Warp travel is in all honesty is completely random. A 40k ship can appear in the past since they entered the warp, or they could appear centuries later and the crew only being in the warp for a day. If the gods wanted in a 40k vs Star Wars all the 40k ships could (and most likely would) appear before you could even blink.
I’m curious how you would have a new opinion about a reaper invasion five years later? Especially since there’s probably a lot more information about the reapers available.
I think Luke would not be indoctrinated by the Reapers. Here is why: 1) Luke was the son of Darth Vader and held inherent power in the force that allowed him to go toe to toe with Vader himself with little training. That means that Luke's not unfamiliar with mental attacks and the subtle as well as not so subtle nature of altering a person's mind. (Ex. Vader using Dun Moch on Luke in Return of the Jedi) 2) Force sense. This one is stated in the video already, but I think it's important to point out once more. Luke was insanely powerful with the force. He had extensive power with the force so he'd be aware that the Reapers are more than they seem. The Reaper deception would fall apart at that point and they would likely be destroyed soon after.
The Reapers are incredibly patient. I think they would wait and watch and when the Rebels finally defeat the Empire and the ruling faction is scattered, they would take advantage of the Remnants desperation. They would indoctrinate entire fleets by offering up their forces and there would be no Emperor or Vader to stop them. When the New Republic finally realizes what’s going on it will be too late. The Remnants would be unified, they could hold off Republic Capitol ships while the Reapers took the fight to the ground where there firepower is superior.
One thing I just thought of, is that the Reapers might not stay completely technologically stagnant once they start trying to subvert the galaxy. In Mass Effect, they built new Reapers from organic races, and since the Empire was able to quietly eradicate worlds of life like Geonosis, they might be able to do so as well and build up their forces whilst doing their subtle indoctrination plan. I also thing this prompt idea could be very interesting in some different starting conditions as well. During the clone wars for example, the galaxy's politics was being completely fractured and manipulated into something new by the Emperor, not to mention the galaxy-wide war. The Reapers could probably take advantage of the fragile state of things to quickly gain an upper hand. Another thing to note is since the Reapers built the Mass Effect Relays and citadel, is they might be able to do so more. Creating what would essentially be brand new secret hyperspace lanes over time for use by themselves and factions acting within their plans would be a very powerful tool. And if they somehow brought the mass relays AND Citadel with them at the beginning, both of those pieces of technology would be of great use to a faction like the Rebellion or CIS. Since the rebellion liked having a mobile high command and the Citadel is supposedly indestructible and Mobile, they might be persuaded to make use of it. Just some random prompt ideas I got thinking about...
Logan Sanders dude I don't know how they would stop Oryx, his dreadnaught seemed impenetrable to a certain extent the question is would the death star be able to punch a hole in the dreadnaught. If it can't then the Star wars galaxy might be screwed. And it also States that as he is a hive god and like his son crota he has a physical body and his actual body which I doubt they could stop. It would make for a good video though.
Here's my list again. 1) Resurgent class Battlecruiser vs Infinity class Super Carrier 2) Behemoth class Battlecruiser from StarCraft vs Venator Star Destroyer 3) Rogue Squadron vs Inferno Squadron 4) Harrower class Dreadnaught vs Venator Star Destroyer 5) Resurgent class Battlecruiser vs Executor class Super Star Destroyer 6) Shadow vessel vs Imperial Star Destroyer 7) Starfury vs Tie Fighter 8) 2-M Repulsor Tank vs Armored Assault Tank
Covenant empire vs the Imperial Empire The Covenant empire have found another forerunner portal that leads them to the star wars galaxy into the unknown region and they start to expand their empire from there.
Even then, a normal star destroyer has much better firepower than a reaper does overall... Point Defense Laser Cannons: Roughly 386 Kilotons of TNT. Heavy Turbolasers: roughly 48 Megatons of TNT. Normal guns horribly outclass even their biggest weapon
The Reapers would not engage in a massive fleet attack in the SW galaxy, Their tactics would change to a slow take over using (ME1) indoctrination starting from the rim and the building up of a massive indoctrinated fleet and army that would contain Empire and Rebel members which would allow them to control the War and cause the most destruction on both sides. They would add the SW weapons and tech to their bodies since Element Zero doesn't exist in this universe and they would need to adapt because of its lack. So by the Time either the Rebels or Empire were aware of what was going on the Reapers would be able to hold their own and if/when defeated the galaxy would be left in flames with whole worlds cleansed by all sides. Would like to see Robotech Zentradi VS Empire.
Most of their strategies to get to any side relies on the Relays, which they do not have. It's not a matter of the Reapers choosing to engage, its a matter of them not having a choice. Their main tactic of manipulation through controlling the relays and the technology would not work here because they would not have any familiarity of the SW technology. It would take too long and they would not be able to hide as easily because they would not be as familiar with the galaxy.
What do you mean they wouldn't have a choice. A reaper shows up on the rim or known space places itself in the shipping lanes reapers don't have to hide they look like ships no one would even think it was sentient. A crew boards it finds it abandoned, moves in. Gets indoctrinated. Reaper use itself and the crew like Saren in ME1 and moves around un-hindered with the crew as cover. Gain intel and technology to update the other Reapers. When they have sufficient Intel and New Tech move into a rim world indoctrinate it, Setup up a Droid factory and sell pro-Reaper Droids to Galaxy, Gain even more intel and in place allies when needed. As to it taking to long the Reapers are a species that planned out the systematic genocide of every other species multiple times, they play the long game and are very patient. So aside from a new class of ship showing up here and there and possible a disturbance in the force no one would know just like in ME1. A galaxy is a big, big , big place they could move around the rim worlds and no one in the Core would even here about it or it would be the rumor of the day.
Mr Manceres I mean that they have to maneuver numerous Reapers without their main tactic to work with, they’d be less efficient. They can’t move as fast or spread as much of their influence in a larger galaxy when they’re not even able to use the full extent of their ftl speed. Some areas would face indoctrination but it’d be in the outer regions but to get as many people as they needed, they’d need to move more Reapers to those regions with less efficiency and would draw more attention to them. Now if the Empire invaded the Milky Way, the Reapers Have an advantage because they’re able to maneuver with their normal efficiency in their standard tactics. But they don’t have that here. They’d draw too much attention and as a result, they’d be forced into a confrontation they didn’t want.
Conor Kelly your are correct they would be hampered when the first arrived that is why I said they would need to adapt. Now if for what ever reason Reapers are unable to use Hyper drives they yes they are toast due to speed limitations but if there is nothing stopping them from integrating and using SW tech then they would go with the 5th column approach slow take over method at least until they believed they had a technological and numerical advantage.
Mr Manceres I will admit that the Reapers could in theory integrate hyperdrive into their systems, but there’s a problem there and that’s fuel. They have a limited amount of Eezo and they’d need Tibbana gas to fuel the hyperdrive which is heavily regulated by the Empire in Anoat sector on the planet Bespin. They’d have to get it from that area which would carry a big risk considering they’re not familiar with the region. There’s also no guarantee that the systems would be compatible for long. The people in SW have been using and advancing the hyperdrive for tens of thousands of years, the idea that the Reapers would be able to simply get the tech and use it at the same efficiency is a bit of a stretch to me.
They always were and thats fine. ME is low tier. So was Babylon 5 or Battlestar Galactica, or Firefly. Nobody seemed to have been butthurt about those.
They always were and thats fine. ME is low tier. So was Babylon 5 or Battlestar Galactica, or Firefly. Nobody seemed to have been butthurt about those.
I agree whole heartedly Mass effects fall was based around everyone using reaper tech giving an easy in and the force would help many notice and even combat the indoctrination effect
You have to consider a few factors in this scenario (I've actually always liked the idea of how a Star Wars vs. Mass Effect intergalactic war would go like): 1 - Are the Reapers going to use Collectors? The Reapers are geniuses besides their arrogance, but the Collectors are sort of their recon forces and also serve as their science division. 2 - Reapers may not be familiar with SW Galaxy's tech, but they will indoctrinate the populations of every planet they invade. Even invading an Outer Rim planet like Tatooine will give them insight in Hyperspace technology, which will make them faster than even the Millennium Falcon. With FTL + Hyperspace, they can run circles around Imperial Destroyers and ships. Same applies for every other bit of tech, especially weapons. 3 - Reapers have been active for BILLIONS of years. The main issue with defeating them in Mass Effect Galaxy is that they always outnumber the galactic powers by coming in tens of thousands *at least*. And they will likely be harvesting every species they come across in SW to produce more of their own. Unlike Mass Effect Galaxy, Star Wars has way more population for them to harvest even in a single star system. 4 - Like you said, they have Indoctrination on their side. For every planet they conquer, they could use the populations as cannon fodder and sleeper agents. A more important question is whether they would be able to indoctrinate more experienced and trained Force Sensitives like the Sith, the Jedi and other Force-using groups. Inexperienced and untrained ones (i.e. lesser Jedi like Kanan and Ezra, many of the Imperial Dark Side Acolytes, etc.) would probably be too weak to resist them. 5 - Given how the Reapers are created and their nature, Vader and Sidious would DEFINITELY sense their presence as you said, as would every other Force Sensitive in the galaxy. The Reapers probably would feel like an infinite wave of perpetually agonizing souls screaming, so I doubt someone like Luke or Galen Marek would be fooled into thinking a Reaper is "just a novel capital starship". On other hand, they might also be Wounds In The Force and be undetectable because of their echoes and mess up the Force, like Malachor V and Darth Nihilus in KOTOR. Billions are harvested to make ONE Reaper, after all. Whether this would actually empower Vader, Sidious and their Dark Side Acolytes or not is up for grabs. 6 - You are using the "Return Of The Jedi" time period, and that the Reapers would get the proper circumstances to apply their eons-old tactic of just letting the galactic powers weaken each other. The Empire weren't "so very close to defeat", and they lost only because of Sidious' arrogance and Luke's actions, which are beneath the Reapers' notice. 7 - You didn't mention a very important factor: the Droids. The Reapers would make reprogram all Droids to be their agents. ESPECIALLY if they found a Separatist Holdout.
Probably And seeing they are made of thousands of poeple We know that if they are force sensitive it will be the end all to Star Wars As there as 1 reaper was made per cycle So 2,000,000,000 divided you 50,000 is 20.000 reapers
You underestimate the capabilities of the reapers. I mean who's to say that the reapers themselves would cause a ripple in the force? They are machines and machines have no affect on the force itself. Also it's highly likely that through their indoctrinated agienst the reapers learn of the weaknesses of star wars tech and adapt to exploit them? All I'm saying is that the reapers themselves are probably the best kind of invasion force you could ask for only because you can achieve the win scenario in multiple ways.
@@miraak542 Ah yes I forgot about that. They were also very intolerant of the other alien races. Probably a plot convenience to have a diverse group of rebels opposing a fascist Empire. Because every empire in media is supposed to be fascist.
Haven't watched the video yet, going to make a few predictions here. SW wins... again... Force users somehow magically immune to indoctrination. Death star somehow not overwhelmed immediately by reaper ships after getting off one shot. Darth Vader and Palpatine effectively immune to damage. Let's see how I did.
Halfway through video now... wait, just because the council races use projectile weapons the reapers would only be prepared for such? Despite them using beam weapons in that cinematic? Despite the Protheans clearly using beam weapons in the Prothean DLC? Kay. Because the SW universe developed ship to ship combat in an uncontrolled, competitive environment, they're better than the Reapers? What environment do you think the reapers creators developed the reapers in? Stands to reason that was also a competitive and free setting. This argument would apply if it was the alliance vs the empire, but it doesn't hold true for the reapers. Okay continuing on...
7:00 the reapers can't get out of the galaxy to deep space because "hyper space anomalies." This was the same race that constructed a black hole surrounded fortress for their underlings in ME2... they can manipulate singularities at will. But sure, okay.
Dont forget that the reapers can also turn any population into their own soldiers on a near whim ex. The husks and all those they changed in the 3rd so quickly using the enemy soldiers against them so their brute force isnt conpletely incompetent but like you said their are too many to fight back so it all depends how quickly they can turn out more forces to combat the counter forces.
Good argument, but you make a few key logical errors. Firstly, you assume all reapers are capable of subterfuge. There's no evidence to support that in the ME EU or the games - the only reaper who demonstrated that is sovereign who has millions if not billions of years of experience doing that, and he is only able to do that by tracking 50k years of civilization developing, thusly having an intricate understanding of the politics of that cleanse. Case in point, the geth, sovereign only allied with them because it was beneficial and it let the reapers keep being the boogeymen that the council races did not believe in. Sovereign would be a non factor in this instance as he stays (stayed) behind after every cleanse in the milky way. Your argument assumes that the reapers just show up with no prior knowledge of the politics, races, etc. of the star wars universe. To see how this works, look at what happened during ME 3 - the reapers were forced to fight a more conventional losses and took heavy losses, especially when (if) the krogan entered the fight. Harbinger was the oldest reaper and he never even tried anything resembling subterfuge - the whole thing with the geth doesn't count - that's worship and there'd be no major factions in the SW EU/legends that would worship the reapers in that way. Secondly, you assume the reapers show up in the unknown region. For lack of a better term, here there be dragons - there's the chiss, several hutt cartels (one of which had enough funds to build a second death star superlaser) and more than a few imperial research facilities (namely the research facility near Kessel, the one that developed the sun crusher), with sizable defense forces (it's been a while, but i'm fairly certain the research facility at kessel had a super star destroyer). They'd start taking hits the second they entered and once the full imperial (or old/new republic fleet) martials, it's a short war - not to mention if they invaded during the clone wars the CIS would roflstomp them - droids can't be indoctrinated unless they are willingly accepted in (see the geth). Thirdly, and more a nitpick, you don't discuss realistic engagement range. The reapers only engage at very short distances (under 5 kilometers, evidenced by a lot of the cutscenes in the invasion of/battle for earth in ME 3). Look at both death stars - they entered into effectively a lunar orbit and were able to destroy planets, from a quarter of a million kilometers. Star destroyers/republic capital ships don't have that range but they can take shots from ~100 kilometers away and still land shots effectively (see the battle of endor - it mentions it in one of the legends novels). If it came to a conventional battle it would be target practice for whoever happened to be against the reapers.
I think you're missing something rather important: the reapers from Mass Effect were created from the Mass Effect galaxy. In the Star Wars galaxy, the reapers would have harvested previous races and their technology, likely have some level of force powers, and would've set up Mass Relays to coax technology along certain predictable routes.
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EckhartsLadder I agree with you and I don't think the reapers can control force users
“Ah, yes, 'Reapers'. The immortal race of sentient starships allegedly waiting in dark space. We have dismissedthis that claim.”.
If your name is Commander Shepard you say wouldn't that. HE IS INDOCTRINATED KILL HIM
The_Red Godzilla had a stroke reading these comments.
Anderson: hey that's the councilor's line not Shepard
The Reapers have 2 things you need to consider. They are half organic, half machine. Secondly, they are extremely thorough in galaxy surveying and mapping. In Jedi Knight, we learn of an ancient temple capable of infusing someone not force sensitive with the force, making them force sensitive. Over time, they become strong with the force. If the Reapers discover this, they would literally become a race of gods instead of just being titanic nightmares.
Would they even be able to fit?
Halo’s Forerunners and Flood: all I see is food and dead machines
Vader was more machine than man.... Just saying lol
The thing with The Reapers is, while they are powerful and adaptable what is usually their trump card is that they get civilizations to develop along a path they approve of. Removing that likewise removes a sizable level of their approach to warfare. The Protheans were already locked in a war when The Reapers invaded, so they were not at their best (no I'm not implying they would've survived, I'm just saying they were already weakened). Only time that this rule has been kind of violated was when the Quarians made The Geth, and The Reapers made their subjugation or destruction priority 1 and frankly The Geth's technology was not that screamingly different from organic races
Edit: Reaper indoctrination is not like Flood infection. Flood infect a person and gain all of their experiences, knowledge, and understanding in perfect clarity. Reaper indoctrination devolves the brain of the victim. The more they are indoctrinated the stupider they become. Therefore, another weapon of The Reapers is not actually that good when compared to other space horrors in other universes
Additional fun thought: the Reapers and Yuuzhan Vong end up running into each other while both are en route to their invasions. Or just invading simultaneously.
Yuu Zhan Vong hated the Machines
Reapers need to harvest Organics
Perfect match
Bro that would suck for the the star wars universe lmao
For post ROTJ EU it's Just another Monday
@@Ale-dd3ek DE Sidious and GM Luke teaming up, no invaders stand even a single chance. The flood would be the only concern, but we’re talking literal force gods at that point so who knows.
The Vong would do a number on the Reapers
I think The Old Republic era would have been more interesting because it contains weapons such as The Eternal Fleet, The Grave Stone, Iokath, The Silencers and many other such weaponry that seems to have been lost in the few thousands years, as well as having force welders such as Emperor Valkorion.
And yes I know this is not cannon anymore but it would still be interesting.
Brandon Harry If the reapers took the Eternal Fleet and/or Iokath it wouldn’t even be a fight. Hell, Aries might just let them into Iokath, given their similarities. Plus, with so many more Jedi and Sith running around, force-sensitive husks would be a lot easier to come by. The insane and/or stupid ones might join them voluntarily. The Killik hive mind could get taken over like the Rachni, so Alderaan is screwed. The Colicoids would be even worse if they got used as ravagers. The various soul-draining superweapons would be dangerous if the Reapers got them. All of this ignoring that, as KotFE and KotET demonstrated, the main forces of the Republic and Empire are more concerned with fighting each other. As long as reapers think through what they’re doing, they could stomp the old republic era.
Honestly who cares if it's not canon anymore.
What people really forget is that technology still exists its just lost. That's why I think the stars galaxy could beat most verses like war hammer and possibly the flood due to ancient superweapons
Old Republic era would have been impossible. Too many fleets, too many force users, so much that could go wrong for the reapers.
Short answer: yes
Long answer: yes!
I remember seeing on Reddit someone saying that the reapers could beat Darkseid and Apokolips from dc comic books, ill give the link www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/comments/1wjhvb/can_the_reapers_from_mass_effect_conquer/, i was like"......bruh, Darkseid alone would solo the entire mass effect verse with a fart,".
I can see the heavy amounts of star wars bias in this answer, i mean just look and read it and you will see www.quora.com/What-would-happen-if-the-Imperium-of-Man-Warhammer-40k-meets-the-Sith-Empire-Star-Wars/answer/Raven-Celestia
@@zeterminator1501 huh? Isn't darkseid like, the god of several universes? Including one he made on his own?
@@zeterminator1501 and can't he make more of himself or something?
The reapers arent invincible, they are hybrid dreadnought spaceships, with unique qualities. If anyone bothers to mention god like beings in comics its pathetic, no competition whatsoever of course they win.
It's not fair to compare like that and it's a middle finger to anyone who likes the mass effect universe.
The Reapers are ancient, and patient in the extreme. More, they are in a perfect position to start influencing droids. The fundamental question is--how does the Force react to them?
considering if the reapers were made in the star wars galaxy they would most definitely each be a wound in the force themselfs and if that counted even if their from another galaxy i think anyone force sensitive would feel like a living abomination was coming towards them since for example when the shadow mass generator went off in the mandolorian wars or when order 66 and aldoran was destroyed its a massive disturbance in the force that just feels wrong now imagine that but since its still happening cus reapers are basically one mass of a dead species trapped into a cybernetic body and mind it would be akin to a living force wound that no one ever stops feeling and it would be like that for each reaper ship so each reaper would feel like a mass in the force of terror pain horror and infinite suffering basically terror incarnate and since reapers assimilate tech like the borg but are better at it i can see them finding out like many younger species have how to artifically use the force or give it to someone meaning they could technically if they are patient which since their plans take 50.000 thousand years normally i would say they are would eventially not only develop force sensitivity themselfs but to anyone who encounters them with the force but is weak of will they would be akin to a banshee in your mind so they would run most people over before having to fire a shot. plus if before they worked out the force a darkside being like palpatine or valkorion or any other powerful force entity worked out what they were they could possibly influence them to a extent but the odds that they would be able to is low in my opinon since reapers are organic AI technically plus the reapers woulden't reveal themselfs without alot of prepwork so palpatine valkorion or any force entity would be able to sense them in terms of them being wounds in the force but woulden't neccesarly be able to find them since for example when the jedi exile meets the jedi masters in kotor 2 they cannot see the exile in the force because their a living wound so it would make sense if the reapers were each living wounds palpatine for example woulden't be able to sense them he would feel a dark horrible presence like the jedi felt with him but he woulden't be able to narrow the presence down to a being or location.
Reapers are the opposite of patient.
The Star War Galaxy could probably survive & even defeat a Reaper invasion, though dozens if not hundreds of planets would be decimated, either from successful Reaper ground invasion or from orbital bombardments to stop the spread of ground based Reaper forces. It would have to take a long time for the Reapers to defeat the Star War Galaxy, probably by long-term indoctrination.
DrakeMarvell But Star Wars Universe missing key components for Reapers chance of winning. I do believe the Outer Rim will be fucked but once they get to the Midrim,they be getting hit hard.
Jesse12489 Yeah, so the best possible way for the Reapers to win would be to play the extremely long game. Long-term indoctrination over thousands of planets & countless species. Might take centuries or even millennia, but they might be able to win that way....
DrakeMarvell That how they do it. Time is irrelevant to them. They can take their time.
DrakeMarvell In legends,an imperial grand admiral Zaarin had seceded from the Empire several months before Endor. The only actual advantage that he had was a technology of producing TIE Defenders,which he stole. The empire was literally on the verge of collapse. Endor was merely a coup de grace. Reapers could have simply torn the Empire apart in a couple of years by manipulating on imperial leaders and officials greed and lust for power,which would have grinded down military potential of the galaxy. Technological differences could have been negated by indoctrinating leaders or crews of star wars ships,or using husks to crew them
They wouldn't even get that far to be honest.
The only thing that made reapers even a threat in mass effect is the fact that all the technology the enemy used was based on their tech and that none of the ships in mass effect had energy weapons and that barriers on ships were not designed to defend against energy weapons.
Reapers invade. Some blue guy, “Do they by any chance like art?”
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There're a few caveats with this, however, that make this whole thing far less straightforward though. First of all, the Reapers also harvest all technology from those civilizations they conquer - which means they'd likely very quickly obtain hyperspace capability - as well as superior weapons and shielding, so long as they were careful not to draw too much attention to themselves and stuck to either salvaging old and ancient wrecks of ships/weapons until they got a hang on the design/function of said tech and had the chance to produce enough themselves to upgrade their forces, plus if they hit severally isolated worlds with little-to-no contact with the galaxy at large, they MIGHT be able to build up their forces of indoctrinated and converted forces - maybe even manage to produce another Reaper or two depending on a plethora of factors. But, here's where things get REALLY tricky. The Reapers are made from living creatures - in some astoundingly horrific ways I might add - and there's no way that wouldn't hit every force-wielder like a freight train. I imagine it would feel like the Jedi purge or the destruction of Alderaan except drawn WAY out, and would almost certainly create more than a few major Force wounds - Hell, I imagine that through the Force, the Reapers look like a never-ending fireworks display of horribleness. They may even carry Force wounds within them or count a wound themselves which brings me to this question, which threatens to throw every other easement into uncertainty; Would the Reapers have the potential to harness the dark side of the Force? Even if their origin from a universe without midichlorians make them unable to, their very presence would almost certainly throw the Force into chaos - add in indoctrination allowing them to more or less rewire an organic's brain into a state that would also lean more towards the dark side, and it makes answering a question like this much harder than what it seems at first. Granted, I still think the Star Wars universe would win, but it could be far more costly than first surmised. That's my thoughts on it anyways.
Reapers wielding the Force?!
While i agree somewhat with your assessment i think the more likely and more terrifying outcome would be the dark side of the force using the reapers. I could imagine potent dark side users like The emperor converting the reapers and somehow retrofitting them into army making super weapons.
@@fatherofjman2475 Maybe some bias involved from my side here, but given the nature of Reapers and how they always try to make sure of maximum efficiency- being computers and all - it's far more likely that they'd get to the Emperor before the latter gets a wind of what hit him. It is a sort of plot armor you could say.
@@rushpan93 I mean...the emperor DID get pranked by a blast door by IG 88
The Reapers beat their creators, the Leviathans, and those things could mind control people and easily disable starships with their minds. In my book, the Emperor's goose would be far beyond cooked.
i always wondered how the reapers would do against the flood and ask myself questions like:
can the logic plague affect the reapers?
can graveminds be indoctrinated?
like seriously
Perhaps on lesser dreadnoughts, though I doubt that the flood could affect the most powerful ships such as Harbinger.
@@blaze_unleashed7286 Depends how much biomass the flood gets before fighting the Reapers. At peak-flood, they can practically bend the laws of reality and can corrupt AI capable of controlling entire Forerunner fleets, fleets where each ship could take on the entire Reaper forces on their own. Peak-flood would and could use the logic plague on the Reapers and would easily defeat them.
Graveminds already have computing power rivaling powerful AI. Keyminds and the like would probably be relatively unaffected, for graveminds it would depend on size and computing power.
The gravenmind is almost similar to the Reapers. The flood are minds molded into one.
@@awildridehome9469 The leviathans that created the harbinger were basically gods that did whatever they want and they were all single handedly destroyed by the harbinger alone which then turned them all into reapers and in mass effect their indoctrination power works on biotic creatures while the floods works on ai which means they'd both work against each other, however, the reapers are basically creatures turned into a machine as shown when the collectors attempt to make a human reapers so I don't know if that changed anything but I do know that the only time the logic plague was shown was when it was used on one ai at a time as well as it taking some time to kick in. The leviathans were able to shut down a large reaper and also take over their thralls with their artifacts and powers alone which is the only time a reaper was destroyed quickly besides at the end of the game. I feel like in this case the reapers would have an advantage here as in the game they control both living and robotic creatures and bend them to their will with no effort at all. Also if just one of the leviathans had the power to instantly shut down a capital size reaper then why couldn't they have destroyed the harbinger which I think means he's far more powerful than the normal ones since he was actually made from the leviathans rather than their dead bodies turned into machines.
@@cyonu5675 That's mostly just speculation. We have no evidence to suggest Harbinger is any more powerful than normal, and we know from the dialogue with the Leviathan that they were defeated by the AI and its army of servants by the dialogue "It created an army of pawns that searched the galaxy, gathering this data. There was no warning, no reason given when they turned against us. Only slaughter"
That means the Starchild was capable of assembling an army that could destroy the Leviathans, before Harbinger existed, seeing as we also hear "It choose our kind as the first harvest. From our essence, the first Reaper was created. You call it Harbinger".
If the Leviathans were as powerful as you suggest, there is simply no way the pawns of the Starchild would be able to process enough Leviathans to make a Reaper. So we know the Leviathan simply, are not anywhere near as powerful as you suggest. If they were, the Starchild and the pawns it created could never have won.
The Flood, with enough biomass, would likely have no issues with indoctrination. Indoctrination is described as "energy fields" that are manipulated to control the minds of living creatures. The Flood are a hivemind, even if indoctrination could affect Flood in a limited area, it would not affect the Flood hivemind as a whole, since there aren't these energy fields present everywhere the Flood presumably would be. Indoctrination also seemingly takes a while to kick-in. The logic plague took *some* time against the most advanced AI to ever exist, an AI that singlehandedly managed millions of ships and an empire far larger than almost any other we've seen in sci-fi.
Halo is, simply put, on a completely different level of power-scaling. There is not much point in comparing the two once you get into forerunner-flood-precursor territory. Both are excellent works of fiction, mind you, just not comparable in scale. 40K Universe is probably the only thing that rivals or outscales the late-end Halo stuff. And even then, the Forerunner empire would probably decimate at least most of the forces of the current 40K universe and some of the old ones too.
Woudlt it be more logical, that if the reapers are already spectating the star wars galaxy for a long time, that they would use es oppertunity to start their attack during the clone wars?
The reapers would get several advantages:
1- The force sensitive (Jedi/Sith) are completly busy by fighting in the war and or leading forces
2- The Reapers in ther kind of being as mechanicle hive mind could be abled to take over the droids of the seperatists, and
even increase them by software upgrades like they did with the geth.
3- The Reapers could also use the entier seperatist forces by indoctrinating for example count dooku, in mass effect you
can see, that characters with a high personal interest in might, progress or strength are more vulnerable to
indoctrination thats nowhere in the literature but its pretty obviouse to see. If the reapers would have offered the
seperatists a deal, its would be easy for them to indoctrinate dooku. Giving them an enormous extra forces and more
important an force sensitive being that they can control and maybe improve.
4- (Here I estimate that point 3 alreasy has happend or is happening atm) While the military forces of the republic are out
in war against the seperatist forces, the Reapers could try to sneak in the core and start a full invasion of coruscant
leading to the death of the leading jedis, politicians and most important palpatine. In Mass effect it always was the first
point on the repears to do list to destroy the galaxys government (citadel trap), and in ME3 we learn, that the moment
from where you can notice the reapers with scanners to the moment they arrive and attack ist pretty damn short and
definitly to short to call back your forces that are in battles elsewhere. The reapers couldt beat the entire galaxy in an all
out war, but overwhelming one plant even an extremly guarded one like courucsant should work. The created chaos and
the controlled seperatist forced should make the reapers an extremly great threat to the galaxy.
5-(This one is completly speculative and an own idea) In the ME Universe FTL drives are realised by the mass effect cores
in the spacecrafts, this mass effect cores are able to manipulate gravity and the reapers have far more powerful cores.
While there are indeed no Mass relays in the star wars galaxy there are hyperlane routes, large pretty damn empty
corridores where ships can travel safely in FTL Drive. Imageine the Reapers could make use of the mass effect cores to
create, manipulate the mass
in these corridores and force for example greate gas clouds to move into the lanes, making them impossible to pass
and even worse, leading to the destruction of all ships trying to use it.The Reapers created the Mass relays, which use
their cores to create an matter free lane to travel, who says, that they cant build a station that can do vice versa with an
hyperlane route?
The Reapers were always great in adapapting their strategies, at least thats what we learn from javik in ME3, and also what we see in the games.
in ME They used the Geth against the Quarians, their brute force against the turians knowing that they wouldnt stand a chance with their all out war mentalitiy, prevent the krogans from becoming a factor in a invasion on galaxy scale by defending the mantle, indoctrinating cerberus to gaining another army, and IF ME1 would have failed first strike on the citadel wiping out the government, and blocking access to the mass relays.
Using the weakspots of your enemy was always the reapers key to success.
their strategy in the star wars galaxy should be the same, because we learn that the reapers adapt there strategy based on their enemy but the main points always stay the same.
first strike in the political heart --> attack coruscant
indoctrinating native forces --> seperatists
disableing ftl access (blocking access to mass relays) --> destroying hyperlane routes
wiping out species for species creating new reapers --> same
brining the AI on their side and improving them (Geth) --> droids
Reapers always plan their invasion for a long long time, making them extremly dangerous because they know you but you dont know them. I believe that the reapers could win vs the starwars galaxy, not by brute force but by strategy. So if the reapers would plan to invade the star wars galaxy, they would plan for hundreds or thousands of years, and I am pretty sure, that they would only attack if they see an oppertunity that would pay out great for them like the clone wars.
Hexadris they could attack before the clone wars... no droids...
Only if they make it in time, thats like the only opportunity i see, even during the fall of the empire would probably would not work as at that time there was a group called the yuuzang vong surrounding the star wars galaxy that was waiting for the empire to fall so they could conquer the star wars galaxy after they destroyed their own, so i would imaginethat the reapes would be crushed under the vongs rage. And to be honest the reapers would have probably stayed around the galaxy to wait for new life to advance, and since the vong were coming anyway, war with the reapers would be inevitable.
Hexadris low iq
FTL stands for faster than light btw which means they are able to travel faster than ships going through lightspeed in Star Wars.
Also Reapers never go with brute force it's always a strategy game to them.
@@artexjay Star Wars ships use hyperdrives to travel faster than lightspeed
I disagree heavyly based on some wrong assumptions by our dear Ladder
1. Since the SW Turbolasers use Plasma the Kinetic Barriers are effective because plasma has mass that can be stopped.
2. The non Reaper Ships in ME use Laserbased weapons for fights within 10 km range and reaper shields are effective against those too.
3. reapers have incredible hard armor to the point where entire fleets shoot them and it takes virtualy ages to bring them down even if the shields are offline.
4.reapers can easyly take over the droids in SW as with the Geth in ME. With an army of assasin robots, astromecs that sabotage the SW ships, tactical droids that provide fatal wrong data to the comanders etc. the empire will have a hard time fighting with max power.
5. Reapers have time. centurys of time to prepare. they would start to subtile indoctrinate planets in the outer rim, use the ships they have and augment them like with the collectors maximising numbers and firepower on there side.
6. Reapers are genius, they contain the combined mind of an entire species per reaper. from the first plantes they indoctrinate they learn all the weapons, common strategies and other intel of the SW galaxy.
7. Reaper ships have an much much higher effective fire range and 100% hit rate. Stardestroyers rarely hit things that are small or fast or halfway far away.
8. Sith are already corrupt and therefor in my thought easy to indoctrinate.
9.Reapers have the ability to fight anywhere, dictating the battlefield conditions. SW ships have been shown to have trouble with gravitation, nebulas and other space occurences like steroid fields.
10.sw already has hunge inner trouble and would not be able to to figh the reapers full force
chr12k6 also disagree. In the codex it says that the reapers barriers could be taken down by concentrated fire of three ships. We also saw a reaper get taken down with a missile hit to its main weapon. Look at the turians they were able to fight reaper fleets better than most but didn't have the numbers to sustain it. The empire alone has many more ships than the council races and base their battle tactics around capital ships. The mass effect governments were limited by their own laws restricting how many ships they could have. One executor class star destroyer had more weapons than a whole fleet. You mention the geth, you do know they gave themselves over to the old machines to avoid being destroyed. Look at the ground forces the only ones using heavy vehicles other than transports was Cerberus and they weren't joining the fight against them. Not the case in the Star Wars galaxy. Even if atat's and turbo laser towers don't punch through the barriers instantly they have fire power to fight reapers on the ground. You mention time but the reapers don't have dark space to hide in also they don't have the tech advantage. The reapers guided their galaxy down the path they wanted and when they came in they were the biggest baddest things around. If they come to the empire they are smaller than damn near every capitol ship. Also just for icing on top empire had the capability to destroy entire planets never saw reaper have that much firepower. Like I said I love mass effect ,replayed original trilogy a dozen times. The empire though wins this every time.
3 main ships with unsaid ammount of time. look what the souveran did with the citadel defence fleet and the 5th aliance navy fleet bevore sheppard shut of the shields by killing saren.
the citadell council only regulated how many Dreadnoughts a species was allowed to build
the reaper used viruses to controle the geth.
krogans used tanks and turian fighter aircraft and could not kill the reaper on the ground without kalros.
atats are unshielded and that makes them oneshot from reapers. also they are poorly designed tanks with the legs and guns that cant shoot to the back.
there are plenty uncovered systems and empty space in sw galaxy to hide out.
NOt tech advantage? reapers are pure tech with the intelligence of whole species and the knowledge how to create stuff in the galaxy core in between multiple black holes. the ai is far far superior to anything sw has.
Reapers are, with 2km bigger than imerial 2 stardestroyers that only have 1km.
the reapers never wanted to destroy planets because that minimises the ammunt of organics they can harvest. and the empire has only the deathstar that needs 24hrs recharge after one full blow.
chr12k6 I will begin by saying I agree with points 1, 2, 3, 6 and 7. I believe Reaper armor and shields are at least equivalent if not superior to Imperial versions of shields and armor. That being said it would only allow them to meet head to head not overwhelm like they did in ME. Additionally their superior firing ranges would give them a temporary advantage in battle but the Imperial ships would either close the distance or drop out of hyperspace right on top of them quickly negating it. Also their superior intelligence would allow them to pursue unorthodox battle strategies that would further give them an edge in battle. All this is to say that when the battle is on their terms Reapers will win most of the time, but when it's not that's when things fall apart fast. As for points 4, 5, 8, 9 and 10 I have to disagree. Point 4, the Reapers probably wouldn't be able(or even try) to take over the droids. Most droids aren't wireless(the Trade Federation's droid army was in Ep. 1 but that was changed following those events), so the only way to infect them is through direct indoctrination(which never appeared to work in ME against similar artificial beings) or indirect indoctrination via their programmers(and that would only apply to new or well cared for droids which in the Empire was relatively rare). The virus you are referring to was developed by the Geth(with the aid of the Reapers) to be used against other Geth. Such a virus would work because the Geth are all networked together(mostly). The droids of SW lacking that critical element means it would take too much time and effort to undermine them in that way. Point 5, they probably wouldn't have centuries to plan. At least not within the parameters of this scenario. In all likelihood the Force would detect their presence and notify the Emperor either directly or through one of his subordinates. Not that it would give them specific information but the warning would be enough followed by probe droids. After that it would only be a matter of time before the Empire reacted. Point 8, the Sith being corrupt and them being indoctrinated are completely different things. Sith philosophy exaults the individual and their singular power and ability to do things. Combined with the Force, I can think of no other being more able to resist indoctrination. Point 9, you are correct it is a huge advantage, but only if they have space superiority. If they don't they're simply easier targets to kill given most of the energy they create goes toward making their bodies light enough to operate on the ground. That's why a Thresher Maw was able to kill one. And they definitely wouldn't have space superiority for reasons I'll get to in a moment. Point 10, the Empire's problems weren't that great and they were mostly self inflicted. Put up against a large and powerful invading force(which the Alliance never was) is what the Empire is optimized to fight. Ultimately what makes the Empire come out on top has nothing to do with any of this. The Empire has the resources of a Galaxy to draw on and a massive military already in place. It takes a long time to make a Reaper and it requires the biomass of entire planets to build one. Because of this the Reapers would only have the resources they came with and no more. Indoctrination takes time which the Empire wouldn't give them. Their main ships are roughly equivalent but there is simply more Imperial ships. Combined with their super weapons and the Empire wins most of the time. Like I said in my comment, I agree with the overall analysis and conclusion of the video. I just took issue with the idea Reapers would be supplementary units in the Alliance.
chr12k6 no they did not control the geth. The geth in mass effect 1 sided withe the reapers. Legion told us that in mass effect 2. Then in 3 they sided with them again and were given the reaper code to enhance their effectiveness. Sovereign wasn't a normal reaper it was a vanguard unit even bigger than harbinger. Those weren't tanks at best they were an armed troop transport. Also they weren't able to get into range of the reaper that's why they changed plans to summon a thresher maw.
since every reaper capitol ship is called souvereign class and harbinger is stated to be the largest reaper you definately are wrong.
Can the Covenant invade coruscant?
GREAT IDEA
Or maybe the covenent fleet that invaded reach vs courescant. Use the same style as the battle of endor fleet vs reach.
Nic Long That would make the most logical sense
Yes of course they can
The invasion fleet attacking Reach was over 500 ships including the massive CAS assault carriers and a CSO supercarrier
I'm pretty sure the CSO and a few cruisers are all that's needed to defeat coruscant
in sort, yeah, even with Jedi the covenant would still ethically cleanse the population of coruscaunt
Reverse the situation! Can the mass effect universe survive an attack from....da deth stahh!?
Considering how the death star gets blown up so easily, I say yes
The mercenary groups alone if they boarded the death star would probably shit all over the Storm troopers inside and blow it up or capture it.
In less than 10 minutes Yes.
Salem Andrada no chance. Mass effect ships don’t have energy shields.
If they can Dock onto the Death Star, Mass Effect.
Mass Effect's Rank and File are superior to all non Force Users.
Shepherd and his crew could probably beat Force Users.
Reapers vs Flood
I AM 22011 logic plague
Insta Win
Darth Vader Logic Plague vs Indoctrination
you cant Indoctrinate the flood
+miguel com well The Flood could not convince the Respers.
The UNSC vs The Mandalorians
TheRed Hawk UNSC
IDK, while the power level between the Covenant and Star Wars can be debatable, The UNSC still basically use 22nd and 23rd century weapons. So it's more of a even match up for them to fight a smaller faction rather than, say, the Empire or the Republic
Maybe the spirit of fire plus two frigates vs mandalore
no, because any home planet worth their salt would have a home fleet in at least the 10s or 100s,
Depends on the time period
Leviathans: see that their slaves get exterminated by AI
Also Leviathans: to solve this problem... they make an AI
bruh moment par excellence
Star child: it is inevitable that organics will get destroyed by their synthetics, hmm...how can I fix this...I know! Create a race of synthetics that destroy organics before they can make their own synthetics that destroy them.
@@_EllieLOL_ Literally an error to begin with.
Actualy i dont think the reapers would even try to attack the SW in numbers! And without a warning they may be already to strong embeded in the galaxy for even Palpatine or Vader to do anything! Plus the Reapers could harvest Outer Rim planets and grow their numbers way before anyone could notice!
I think they would remember the Reapers are patient and they could easily indoctrinate others without them realizing it might not work on Sith or Jedi but their numbers are incredibly small compaired to a whole galaxy of weaker minded beings
Not to mention for every outer rim colony or planet they harvest they adapt their own technology to their harvest. By the time they have the numbers for a full scale reaping they could be completely immune to whatever the Empire has to throw at them. Not to mention being machines they can hack pretty much anything and gain all the info they need remotely. Also, being telepaths, they could potentially learn to use the Force from analyzing captured Force-sensitives. They could potentially stay hidden from other force-sensitives because they are inherently neutral, neither good nor evil. And if you have Force-wielding Reapers, it's game over.
Also they can crate more reapers from organics
@@HMan2828 nah. The Force has a will of its and i think it would refuse such an abomination as Force sensitive Reaper
That’s what I’m saying they can harvest sooo many people in the Star Wars universe, and hardly anyone would know because of how big their galaxy is, imagine, harvested wookies, rancor’s, trandocians(bossks species), mamdalorians, twileks, etc, the reapers are like a parasite
Reaper and all mass effect ftl without relays are slow as fuck. They would be screwed
Yeah, this is one thing people don’t realize. It took the reapers 6 months from reaching the alpha relay to finally reach another star system with a mass relay. That means even a few light years would be longer than the longest hyperspace jumps in Star Wars. The mass relays seem to take a few minutes or maybe an hour to reach their destination, at least from Ilos to the citadel, but without it the FTL drives of even the reapers are severely underpowered.
Everyone forgets that the Star Wars galaxy has a Death Star and millions of ships capable of combat.
Just like everyone forgets a Reapers capability of physically ripping apart hostile ships at point blanc.
One of the only reasonable people I see in the comments and not whiny me fanboy idiots who know nothing about star wars....
@@TheAusar not that fast idiot
@@TheAusar who said the starfighters have to go in point blank range?
@@chariotrequiem8547 who said anything about starfighters? the reapers could very well rip an ISD apart if allowed to get close enough
I have three suggestions
Reapers vs The Borg
The Flood vs The Usong Vong
UNSC Earth Defense Fleet vs the Republic Fleet present at the Battle of Curosant (I don't know how well the numbers of ships line up, but is interesting regardless)
Flood vs Vong is a BAAAADDDD idea, due to a little thing that the Vong have called ORGANIC based technology. It would just be giving the Flood food.
+kabob 007 How about THE VASHTA NERADA from Dr Who VS THE FLOOD ?.
if the flood could crack the vongs genome yea
John Pionzio
1.Borg
2.Flood
3.UNSC
reapers vs red green and blue
Someone in Star wars: "Oh no the reapers are atacking!" Me: "Call the Star Forges" ( There are a few left, but no one knows where they are)
Wait. I thought there was only one
I think people really overhype the Reapers, they are not invincible gods - their main advantage is that they could isolate empires by shutting down the mass relay network. Rather than facing a united Galaxy they could take out smaller garrisons at their leisure. They also didn't mind taking their time with planets, starving them, having generations grow up in an apocalyptic war where they are not even aware that there is a galaxy-spanning empire, etc.
Another thing is that this network allowed them to sow dissent in galaxy's before-hand. While this might be possible in the starwars universe even without that advantage (maybe trying to play forces against one another such as aiding another droid uprising.) they would most certainly not have something like the Geth assisting them. I also don't think they'd work with the Rebel Alliance as they seem to prefer Artificial life much more than organic life for grand scale operations.
They did face a United galaxy and they depending on the ending destroy their fleets
They could easily travel though without the use of hyperspace lanes and could also easily disrupt and destroy them with there element zero. The galaxy would have to forge new ones giving the Reapers plenty of time to wage war on smaller factions, destroy the seats of government and indoctrinate new vassals
i believe eckharts here, the reapers would strategically have to offer themselves as extra capital ships to the rebels, slowly indoctrinating them, until when the rebels inevitably take over the government they just lend it right over to them. if you think i'm wrong, sue me.
Well, one direction we could go after this... a fully infected Flood galaxy versus the Reaper Armada?
Reapers would get fked hard.... the flood are far stronger than the Reapers.... once the flood reach critical mass they are basically unbeatable...
The reapers would win, you cant infect the reapers.
The logic plague applied to single "mind" AI, a Reaper is "each a nation" of minds & entities. I think that would provide some heavy resistance to the logic plague the Flood can cause. And, the Reaper minds are in their titanic bodies. That I know of from Halo lore, the Flood only got to plague AI it had captured and held near a Gravemind. Reapers couldn't be held in such a way, however, the Gravemind could theoretically reach out through comm channels and talk to Reapers that way.
The flood are capable of capturing ships with relative ease. The gravemind was capable of torturing an AI, so I imagine it would be capable of doing the same to a reaper. In addition to the torture, they take over ships with their biomass often. The reapers aren't very effective at killing things around them, ironically. As seen by the fact they turn themselves and fire their weapons very slowly. (And the issues they had with killing a single person with their giant lasers several times, even one-on-one.) In the scenario OP mentioned, an entire galaxy would be infected by the flood. Which means keyminds would be abundant, which are just sentient planets that have INCREDIBLE amounts of knowledge. (Logic plague also gets stronger and more effective when keyminds are around.) The reapers wouldn't be able to rely on their main ways of cleansing planets either: Their organic armies. The hulls of the reapers were shown to be broken easily by the Normandy's main weapon too. So, I imagine a MAC cannon would have about the same effect, assuming it's the Milky Way in the Halo universe they've taken over. Flood infected ships would give them a challenge in space, while planets themselves would be taking over the reapers that land. Either by use of the logic plague, or by just killing the reapers and keeping their bodies. Indoctrination wouldn't be able to affect the flood either (Keyminds controlling them). But, again, the logic plague is the most likely to work against them. The logic plague isn't just a simple virus or anything. It comes from them receiving information that makes them question their entire existence. The reapers having a linked mind may even be the BIGGEST downfall of them in this case, since they were created and given a very simple purpose by a snobby ethereal child. Sovereign was shown to enjoy debating existence with Shepard in the first game. Meaning they'd probably be open to it with the Flood. The reason for the Flood's existence alone has caused everyone that's ever heard it to commit suicide. Imagine how the reapers will feel to find out their way of life is just empty and pointless, by something that's even older and wiser than they are, to prevent them from just giving the "You are incapable of understanding our motives" cop-out Shepard was given. They'd be open to debating existence, and so would a keymind. Only difference being the Flood have all the answers, while the reapers have a VERY narrow view of the universe.
@@Myjacob99 If you can't infect it Then you yonk it out of Existence
All hail Silentium Flood capable of Corruption Space time
Can the Star Wars Galaxy defeat an Ori Invasion?
BC-304 Odyssey (Post-Unending, but no ZPM) vs Imperial-II Star Destroyer
DrakeMarvell ZPM wraith hive Vs SSD
Robert Whitfield That would be an interesting fight. 2 massive ships with destructive arsenals...
more stargate
Probably considering the Ori don't have an invasion force big enough and they're weapons aren't powerful enough.
I mean most Ori ships had one main weapon and a handful of pulse weapons. When compared to ships from other shows they aren't really that strong.
Plus the only thing that the Ori have that could even remotely combat a sith or jedi are their priests.
Legion acc tbh they do have a whole galaxy and ascended beings, what's her face the oressi could probably take Vader tbh
There should be a Crossover Movie or television series of Star Wars and Mass Effect with the Jedi & Sith and they're Armies both teaming up for the first time to fight against the Reapers
Replicators vs Empire/Rebels/Republic/CIS/Flood/UNSC/Covenant or anyone else or even all of them
flood win
+Spartan Abrams hell no sheesh there not even that strong Chief was saved from infection by his shield so.
Replicators don't have masterchief soooooo
LOGIC PLAGUE
Replicators could be overpowered by enought powerfull energy weapons, and are vulnerable to projectile weapons so they are not as hard unstopable as flood or tyranids
10 American m1a2 tanks vs 1 AT-AT walker
ArchAngel 1312 you'll probably need a lot more than 5. It's Ray shielded remember
I think you need about 25 for the M1A2s to stand a chance
AT-AT's cant fight off projectiles
Abrams 1-shots that camel
Lol, jk
how bout 10? xD
ArchAngel 1312 probably not. No
What if the Millennium Falcon *IS* a Reaper?
Did the key Rebels spend lots of time around it? Check.
Was it present at key setbacks for the Empire? Check.
Is it unique, and based on exotic technology? No Check.
Do any of the points you've made actually support your theory? No Check.
its not a reaper
Why do people not realize this is a joke
Most of these people are getting whooooshed
Cybermen vs Empire
WEEPING ANGELS invade the Star Wars galaxy.
General Doesbaddel WRONG
EXTERMINATE
General Doesbaddel I think there was an episode of new Who where they had a galaxy spanning human Empire fight a war with the Cybermen. It took them many years but eventually the Cybermem were beaten. Would be an interesting and comparable scenario to see the Star Wars Empire fight the Cybermen
+Creed Luvari maybe I mean it worked with TV monitors and recordings.
IIRC, Nightmare in Silver showed that the humans had to resort to blowing up planets at the first sign of a Cyberman invasion and eventually destroyed an entire galaxy by unknown means just to put the Cybermen down.
I’m imagining Starkiller ripping a reaper apart with the force like that star destroyer
it would be incredible but impossible, the ship was already in bad shape and above all unable to escape the attraction of a planet, Starkiller only dealt the final blow 🫠
Force sensitive individuals would surely sense something is off when around a Reaper and, if trained enough, probably fight indoctrination and warn others about it.
Retribution class battleship (Warhammer 40k) vs UNSC Infinity (Halo)
UNCS doesn't stand a chance....
spy cab overlord the super Macs whould gut the reterbution
Void Shields, no it wouldn't.
The lowest calcs for 40k ships firepower is 300-500 megatons with the highest being dozens of gigatons, that the infinity's pathetic 50 megaton main weapons could even scratch the retribution is hillarious. The retribution is also far faster (40k ships can reach 0.7C in real space), is way more heavily armed, has multiple overlapping void shields and has an effective lance range measuring in light seconds.
The Infinity doesn't stand a chance in hell. Of comparable universes only EU Star Wars ships can go toe to toe with 40k ones.
Maybe if its a cargo ship might have a chance? But still....
Javik actually mentions a planet in the citadel DLC that was so lethal to invade they decided to destroy it from orbit, so I would say since Javik mentions that, the reapers gave the capability of glassing a planet as well.
No, they just throw objects at it from a distance.
@@humansvd3269I mean. Both are effective
@@humansvd3269I mean I think the Dinosaurs would agree a large enough meteor could while out a planet entire population.
This concept would make a terrific fan film. There's so many directions you could go in with the story.
The video was great! One small err though. You mentioned that the Reaper forces consist of thousands of ships, but throughout the ME trilogy there are at least a few times where their numbers are said to be in the hundreds of thousands. This could perhaps make some sort of difference in the invasion (not likely enough to turn the tide, however).
As always, the Reapers' greatest weapon is their stealth and subversion. They would have key people indoctrinated before attacking, like they did to the Batarian Empire. They would also find ways to reconfigure what unknown tech or challenge to be an advantage for themselves.
Reapers are just extremely strong, and even if they are discovered, they destroy everything. Took an entire fleet to kill one reaper. Star wars have no Chance
I think it would have actually been more interesting to set this hypothetical during the Clone Wars. The Reapers would have absolutely gone after the separatist droid armies and influential leaders and uplift/upgrade them to join their cause.
liked and subscribed dude. The Reapers are smarter than that. They are going to start much like they did in ME 1. They would start as one, like Sovereign posing as just a ship. This one Reaper would make itself available to someone greedy for power they could not get otherwise someone corruptable who no one would suspect. They would gather Intel. probably reactivating the droid army and using them to build up shock troopers while analyzing the galaxy for quick travel routs, finding the the weak spots. They would probably his in the outer rim. once they have built a sizable force of shock troopers and indoctrinated individuals "Sovereign " would signal the invasion. The rebels would be overwhelmed. there were Millions of Reapers in ME3. some big like Harbinger, some smaller like ther reaper on Rannoch. All with the capability to indoctrinate. The empire would be next. They would go after the Super Weapon first swarming it. The death star is one weapon that could stop them quickly. just hit a nearby planet with Reapers on it you cut down numbers. husks would swarm Coruscant and other populated epicenters, but Reapers haven't encountered the force. It's highly possible that the Emperor and Vader could do damage there. The imperial fleet can sure as hell wreak havoc provided they aren't all indoctrinated.
Indoctrinate Palpy, Bam insta wins boi
Unless the force ends up being able to protect ole Palpy.
So smart, they can't even kill a single person only a few metres away from it. ua-cam.com/video/cfIdDNRyxBE/v-deo.html
The Reapers are probably in the thousands, as when they gathered their "Full force" to Earth during the end of Mass Effect 3, it didn't seem that significant. However, I would give the advantage of surprise a lot more than just Sovereign. They'd just show up in force as Sovereign was left behind only to monitor. The only reason Sovereign had to go in without bringing the others in was because a signal was sent to the Citadel that was shut down by the last remaining Protheans on the Citadel
The reapers would done get wrecked boi
Galaxy vs galaxy vs galaxy, Star Wars vs Halo vs Mass effect. A massive series encompassing everything from each universe it would be crazy
Don't the Salarians primarily use 'ultraviolet lasers'? The geth and quarians seem to often use energy weapons, too. Asari, quite possibly, too. I don't think it's true to say most weapons in the 'Mass Effect' continuity are projectile based.
those lasers are only used within "knife fighting" range that is 10km.
They do have them just not to the extent that the star wars galaxy does.
The Geth actually utilize ultraviolet lasers. Since they're not depented on wages, rest and other economic factors, resources are utilized to make top notch equipment. Just look up the Geth Dreadnought in Mass Effect 3.
Chibby the Geth and Quarians Do, but the majority of the galaxy doesn’t.
Conor Kelly I don't even think the quarians have them. They're strapped for resources since all they're homeworlds are in Geth control. Plus they're fleet is in rugged condition since most of the ships are close three centuries old. They had to retrofit they're Liveships to be on par with Cruisers
I thought the Reapers numbered in the millions?
"our numbers shall darken the sky of every world" - sovereign
he could just be lying, though.
It still doesnt matter though.Legends numbers for the Star wars ships are in the billions and realistically it should be more considering the number of planets in the galaxy. On top of that the Empire has multiple superweapons and there is likely a technology difference between the Star Wars universe and the Mass Effect verse.That and the fact that the force exist, which relies entirely on living beings to operate and wouldn't, I imagine,like it if a random race of machines came to try to obliterate life from the galaxy.You could definitely see most force users being warned or detecting them as soon as they entered the system, even if they can't use or aren't affected by it simply because of the sheer amount of people they've killed
@@-Extra_Lives thats legends not canon, reapers numbers are all real.
@@-Extra_Lives I thought that, at most, the Imperials only had a fleet of 25,000 Star Destroyers?
@@-Extra_Lives one reaper = 20 000 000 organics. There is no doubt in my mind that this race of being is one of the most powerful creatures in fiction. There maybe more and better tech in sw but reapers are sentient beings over 100 000 000 years old they would win any and every war in sw uni.
This is a joke of a video. There are 25 thousand star destroyers. And thats only 1 class if ships. In mass effect we only got to see 200 some reaper ships at the ending of Me2. Make it max 1000 reapers attacking the galaxy. They would get destroyed with ease
Also reapers don't tend to invade galaxies at full force, they tend to move in waves, and with how the sw universe is not united, reapers would indoctrinate and have factions fight with each other to weaken themselves. Turn all ai controlled droids on their side, and start sabotaging their ships.
In ME1 just ONE reaper almost annihilated the entire human and asari fleets protecting the Citadel. It made short work of the asari dreadnought the Destiny Ascension. Now imagine 200 hundred reapers...
@@70mavgr ME 3 reapers are a joke. I hate how weak they are in ME 3.
Biggest weakness of the Reapers is their historic tactic to shut off target race's access to Mass Relay FTL to limit their ability to reinforce and re-supply. The Empire has a Galaxy wide logistical structure designed to support the Imperial Navy. Also, its never been shown for the Reapers to have their own dedicated logistical base beyond the Collector's base to turn captured organic matter into new Reapers. The Empire would be able to not only project power against the Reapers, but logistically maintain that force as well.
There’s one simple fact that most of you, Star Wars fans keep overlooking about the reapers. The reapers play the long game, the reapers will send a single ship like sovereign to start indoctrinating, and once they have key people indoctrinated, that’s when the invasion starts. And with the amount of species that are in the Star Wars universe, imagine the husks, and everything that could be made.
@@Direwolf9818 A fair counterargument. But I would note that Palpatine, as a Sith, was raised on the idea of the long game and was the pinnacle of the Sith's 2000-year-long game to destroy the Jedi and Republic. So he wouldn't be as caught off guard by the Reapers as one would think.
Also, with the Reaper habit of making Husks out of entire planetary populations, do you think Palpatine would hesitate to use the Imperial Navy to counter this with a planet-burning orbital bombardment!?! That's essentially what Imperial Class Star Destroyers were designed for!
Reapers: We have indoctrination
Star Wars: *and we have the high ground*
4:44 If i recall corectly, the "Hand of Thrawn" dDuology puts the number of imperial star desroyers (the also mhave smaller ships) at ~60 thousand.
The reapers have 20000 of there largest ships while also having over 50000 destroyer class ships, reapers biggest sizes range from 2-5 kilometers in size, Star destroyers are 1600 meters in length or 1.6 kilometers, destroyer class reapers are 160 meters in height so the imperials do have the upper hand in numbers but with indoctrination the reapers can use it to control anyone over a small period of time, boosting their own numbers, and the reapers have the technology to create different types of reaper creatures as we saw from mass effect 3, just imagine a Wookiee reaper 😳
@@roythemailboy5751 That is true and I think that the Reapers might even hold the Imperial fleet at a stalemate if all of both sides fleets engaged at once or even stalemate each other in smaller skirmishes. The bad part for the Reapers though is that they would still take a lot of heavy losses from fighting the Empire and even if they were able to win they’d still have the untold trillions of other people in the Star Wars galaxy who would stand against them likely in a similar scenario to the races of Mass Effect. I think the Reapers could beat the empire’s fleet but I don’t think they’d be able to do so without taking too many casualties to actually conquer the rest of the galaxy imo. They’d be required to indoctrinate a *ton* to replenish and by then the rebels would also be stepping in noticing the huge threat that just took on the Empire
@@roythemailboy5751 reapers would get absolutely dunked on.
Step 1: find and indoctrinate our favorite admiral (Thrawn)
Step 2: let him figure out how to win
Halo Wraith Tank VS Separatist AAT Droid Tank
*Tau Empire vs Covenant*
or
*Tau Empire vs UNSC*
Tau win on ground but might loose in the air... maybe... I mean all props to the air caste.... But fire caste, ya know?
I don’t know, the USC lacks shields, lacks plasma weapons AND is much smaller in number than the Imperium.
And they thought a significant portion of the imperium’s military to a standstill in the Damocles crusade...
I give victory to the Tau based on one side having void shields, and one side not. In fact, this is very much in the same vein of how the Covenant fleet beat the UNSC in open combat... better survivability, arguably better weapons.
On the ground, same thing.
the Tau Empire would, unfortunately, absolutely stomp the UNSC out of existence. They have technology and weapons that make UNSC technology look backwards in comparison, with the only exception being the more recent forerunner FTL and shield upgrades.
Tau would probably beat both. I recommend looking at spacebattles.com, they've done this debate many times in the vs debates forum. With the exception of NOVA bombs, UNSC and Covenant don't have the firepower to deal with 40k factions.
Anything in the W40K is way too OP for these comparisons. The major battles in other fictional universes are tuesdays in W40k.
Ok, several things:
1st - GREAT video as always dude. I love how you always put a lot of time and effort into all your videos;
2nd - with point number 1 being said however, my opinion is that you're making the SAME mistake that EVERYONE (at least as far as I know) makes, namely that there are ONLY a few thousand Reapers.
Remember that in Mass Effect 1, Sovereign ITSELF tells Shepherd "Our numbers will darken the skies of every world". And I'll admit that at first I thought the same thing as MOST people: that this statement was merely an intimidation tactic, that is until the Leviathan DLC from Mass Effect 3, where the Leviathan ITSELF tells Shepherd that "countless" Cycles occurred BEFORE the "Intelligence"/Reapers constructed the Mass Relays and Citadel, and that "countless" more Cycles occurred BEFORE the "Harvest" was streamlined to the 50,000 year Cycle.
And yet ANOTHER thing that MOST people assume is that the small percentage of the galaxy (about 10% i believe, but please correct me if I'm wrong) is the ONLY part of the galaxy that has Advanced Space-faring Species, and that ONLY the Species known to Council Space exist.
A PERFECT example of this is the Rachni, who were an ADVANCED Space-faring Species first encountered AFTER the activation of a DORMANT Mass Relay that lead to UNEXPLORED space.
So either it's completely IMPOSSIBLE for ANY other ADVANCED Space-faring Species to have EVER existed BEYOND the "known space" of ALL the Civilizations that eventually discovered the Citadel, OR the Reaper numbers are in the MINIMUM of the MILLIONS, if not TENS OF MILLIONS or MORE.
And I can honestly hear it now from people dissagreeing with me posting my personal opinion: "oh NO, you're absolutely WRONG! The Reapers seen in the Mass Effect games are the ONLY Reapers in existence, and you're personal opinion is WRONG and STUPID!!"
I've literally lost count of how many times I've seen people post something similar in their reaction to someone posting a comment they disagree with.
But regardless, again GREAT video as always dude.
Just my own personal opinion anyway.
Here something to clarify. the Reapers conceptually within the context the MEs story (that being the "harvesting all prominent organic life every 50000 years" and they are pretty close to a billion years old) the Reapers should have somewhere around 20000 ships/Reapers. Also presumably A: they didn't make artificial Ships or mass produced them. B: the cycles consistently only had 1 prominent species. and C they didn't suffer many losses after there makers.
@@DeathDragon5000 I can definitely respect your point of view, and it does makes sense.
However, the point I was making was that it's impossible for the Reapers to limit their 'Harvest' of all advanced organic and synthetic Species to ONLY those who have discovered the Citadel.
UNLESS the current cycle from the Mass Effect Trilogy and the previous Prothian cycle were the ONLY two cycles where just around roughly 10% or so of the galaxy was explored, and ALL other previous cycles encompassed 100% of the galaxy, then the actual number of Reapers across the ENTIRE galaxy would be exponentially higher.
Given that, it stands to reason that the number of Reapers encountered in the Mass Effect Trilogy (around 20,000 as you said, and I honestly believe that's a fairly accurate rough estimate) represents only a FRACTION of the TOTAL number of Reapers across the ENTIRE galaxy, most of which is unexplored by the Species that have discovered the Citadel.
THAT was the main point that I was trying to make.
But that aside, again I can definitely respect your point of view, and I honestly believe that your estimate of around 20,000 Reapers is fairly accurate, at least as far as the number of Reapers in the small percentage of the galaxy known/inhabited by Species from the Mass Effect Trilogy goes.
the red ribbon army vs the Empire in a planetary invasion
Dude Lmao
Does the RRA have the androids? Cell? If not, they get destroyed, if they do have them though, Cell solos.
Some of the Officers would probably destroy any non force users.
If they have the Androids, Red Ribbon wins.
LOL wut? Only way the Red Ribbon wins is if they have the Androids. If not, GG.
The red ribbon army will destroy most of the galactic empire army
One man's opinion? I thought you were a dog
Doge*
Imagine Turian Husks with Force Sensitivity, let alone Saran with such
Do you think you could try something involving the 40k universe? Like could the Star Wars universe survive an invasion from the Imperium of Mankind/Chaos and the warp/Tyranids/Ork *Waaagh* /Tau/Necrons/(Dark)Eldar etc. There is just so much potential here and I'd love for you to explore it. :)
Tbh Warhammer 40k roflstomps star wars so it would have to be really specific
40K is super op, maybe Tau v Covenant... a bit fairer. Still think the Tau will kick their ass.
The Warhammer galaxy vs Star Wars might be more fair, so long as the Warhammer one didn't unite. The Imperium is hard pressed by enemies, and likewise would have a hard time fighting off the Star Wars galaxy. Personally I think SW would fair best in the Clone Wars era, with Sidious uniting the CIS and Republic to fight against the Imperium of Man.
madcow BRO W40K have shitty space travel. They will be out maneuvered at every engagement. SW 8/10 on this one.
RenegadeParagon Warp travel is in all honesty is completely random. A 40k ship can appear in the past since they entered the warp, or they could appear centuries later and the crew only being in the warp for a day. If the gods wanted in a 40k vs Star Wars all the 40k ships could (and most likely would) appear before you could even blink.
The beat playing in the background is tony castle heart in the pipes
I think. With my Man Eck having a few more years under his belt, should remaster this video
Please do Flood vs xenomorphs
masterchief and cortana vs all the governments of earth 2017
The question should be: How long can the Reapers survive against a fleet of Lucrehulks and Star Destroyers.
The answer? About 5 minutes.
F-61 Trident (Mass Effect, Alliance Fighter) vs. TIE/LN TIE Fighter
I’m curious how you would have a new opinion about a reaper invasion five years later? Especially since there’s probably a lot more information about the reapers available.
I think Luke would not be indoctrinated by the Reapers. Here is why:
1) Luke was the son of Darth Vader and held inherent power in the force that allowed him to go toe to toe with Vader himself with little training. That means that Luke's not unfamiliar with mental attacks and the subtle as well as not so subtle nature of altering a person's mind. (Ex. Vader using Dun Moch on Luke in Return of the Jedi)
2) Force sense. This one is stated in the video already, but I think it's important to point out once more. Luke was insanely powerful with the force. He had extensive power with the force so he'd be aware that the Reapers are more than they seem. The Reaper deception would fall apart at that point and they would likely be destroyed soon after.
The Reapers are incredibly patient. I think they would wait and watch and when the Rebels finally defeat the Empire and the ruling faction is scattered, they would take advantage of the Remnants desperation. They would indoctrinate entire fleets by offering up their forces and there would be no Emperor or Vader to stop them. When the New Republic finally realizes what’s going on it will be too late. The Remnants would be unified, they could hold off Republic Capitol ships while the Reapers took the fight to the ground where there firepower is superior.
One thing I just thought of, is that the Reapers might not stay completely technologically stagnant once they start trying to subvert the galaxy. In Mass Effect, they built new Reapers from organic races, and since the Empire was able to quietly eradicate worlds of life like Geonosis, they might be able to do so as well and build up their forces whilst doing their subtle indoctrination plan.
I also thing this prompt idea could be very interesting in some different starting conditions as well. During the clone wars for example, the galaxy's politics was being completely fractured and manipulated into something new by the Emperor, not to mention the galaxy-wide war. The Reapers could probably take advantage of the fragile state of things to quickly gain an upper hand.
Another thing to note is since the Reapers built the Mass Effect Relays and citadel, is they might be able to do so more. Creating what would essentially be brand new secret hyperspace lanes over time for use by themselves and factions acting within their plans would be a very powerful tool. And if they somehow brought the mass relays AND Citadel with them at the beginning, both of those pieces of technology would be of great use to a faction like the Rebellion or CIS. Since the rebellion liked having a mobile high command and the Citadel is supposedly indestructible and Mobile, they might be persuaded to make use of it.
Just some random prompt ideas I got thinking about...
I’d love to see Vader’s main ship just rip through the reapers
For real tho, I like to see that ship destroy the reapers
The Dalek Empire vs The Empire.
Could Oryx, The Taken King, from Destiny invade the Star Wars Universe?
Wild Gringo that would make for a good video. Think about this Taken Stormtroopers.
sylok the defiled it would be damned terrifying.
The darkness would be a pretty good counter to the force...
He could probably take enough beings that he would overwhelm the galaxy.
Logan Sanders dude I don't know how they would stop Oryx, his dreadnaught seemed impenetrable to a certain extent the question is would the death star be able to punch a hole in the dreadnaught. If it can't then the Star wars galaxy might be screwed. And it also States that as he is a hive god and like his son crota he has a physical body and his actual body which I doubt they could stop. It would make for a good video though.
You are scary good at setting up invasion plans
Here's my list again.
1) Resurgent class Battlecruiser vs Infinity class Super Carrier
2) Behemoth class Battlecruiser from StarCraft vs Venator Star Destroyer
3) Rogue Squadron vs Inferno Squadron
4) Harrower class Dreadnaught vs Venator Star Destroyer
5) Resurgent class Battlecruiser vs Executor class Super Star Destroyer
6) Shadow vessel vs Imperial Star Destroyer
7) Starfury vs Tie Fighter
8) 2-M Repulsor Tank vs Armored Assault Tank
The list will change as I add or subtract based on videos and my memory. Would like to see one of these.
If you something on the list you think would be a good video, like and comment the number.
+Kenneth Kates I have been saying Harrower Class Dreadnought VS Venator Class Star Destroyer for a while.
I know, I up vote when I see it.
Covenant empire vs the Imperial Empire
The Covenant empire have found another forerunner portal that leads them to the star wars galaxy into the unknown region and they start to expand their empire from there.
Legends or Canon?
canon, otherwise the Covenant would have to go up against the Yuuzhan vong once they entered the galaxy before they go up against the Empire
The Death Star vs. a gimungus robotic cockroach! F**k yeah!!!
You are got mass effect lore wrong but got for a first try
What? What did he get wrong?
He down play the power of reaper when glassing a planet
martin Rasmus i do not think a reapers only 2 klm long can not cush more then a 5 klm long ship
J ustAnotherFanBoy no at most they can be 3 km
Even then, a normal star destroyer has much better firepower than a reaper does overall...
Point Defense Laser Cannons: Roughly 386 Kilotons of TNT.
Heavy Turbolasers: roughly 48 Megatons of TNT.
Normal guns horribly outclass even their biggest weapon
Vader versus a Dalek
Vader deflects the Dalek's lazers with his lightsaber and force chokes it.
Vader obviously wins.
+The Senate The Darleks have no necks 😕 lol.
And idk if Dalek lasers would deflect like blaster bolts
Well the force can likely stop the life support of the Dalek, or just crush the entire Dalek.
Hmm, yeah, likely could. Don't think Dalek shielding seems to do so well against crushing forces
"Unless I missed it, the Star Wars Galaxy doesn't have Mass Relays."
Well...there used to be Hyperspace Cannons...
The Reapers would not engage in a massive fleet attack in the SW galaxy, Their tactics would change to a slow take over using (ME1) indoctrination starting from the rim and the building up of a massive indoctrinated fleet and army that would contain Empire and Rebel members which would allow them to control the War and cause the most destruction on both sides. They would add the SW weapons and tech to their bodies since Element Zero doesn't exist in this universe and they would need to adapt because of its lack. So by the Time either the Rebels or Empire were aware of what was going on the Reapers would be able to hold their own and if/when defeated the galaxy would be left in flames with whole worlds cleansed by all sides.
Would like to see
Robotech Zentradi VS Empire.
Most of their strategies to get to any side relies on the Relays, which they do not have. It's not a matter of the Reapers choosing to engage, its a matter of them not having a choice. Their main tactic of manipulation through controlling the relays and the technology would not work here because they would not have any familiarity of the SW technology. It would take too long and they would not be able to hide as easily because they would not be as familiar with the galaxy.
What do you mean they wouldn't have a choice. A reaper shows up on the rim or known space places itself in the shipping lanes reapers don't have to hide they look like ships no one would even think it was sentient. A crew boards it finds it abandoned, moves in. Gets indoctrinated. Reaper use itself and the crew like Saren in ME1 and moves around un-hindered with the crew as cover. Gain intel and technology to update the other Reapers. When they have sufficient Intel and New Tech move into a rim world indoctrinate it, Setup up a Droid factory and sell pro-Reaper Droids to Galaxy, Gain even more intel and in place allies when needed. As to it taking to long the Reapers are a species that planned out the systematic genocide of every other species multiple times, they play the long game and are very patient. So aside from a new class of ship showing up here and there and possible a disturbance in the force no one would know just like in ME1. A galaxy is a big, big , big place they could move around the rim worlds and no one in the Core would even here about it or it would be the rumor of the day.
Mr Manceres I mean that they have to maneuver numerous Reapers without their main tactic to work with, they’d be less efficient. They can’t move as fast or spread as much of their influence in a larger galaxy when they’re not even able to use the full extent of their ftl speed. Some areas would face indoctrination but it’d be in the outer regions but to get as many people as they needed, they’d need to move more Reapers to those regions with less efficiency and would draw more attention to them. Now if the Empire invaded the Milky Way, the Reapers Have an advantage because they’re able to maneuver with their normal efficiency in their standard tactics. But they don’t have that here. They’d draw too much attention and as a result, they’d be forced into a confrontation they didn’t want.
Conor Kelly your are correct they would be hampered when the first arrived that is why I said they would need to adapt. Now if for what ever reason Reapers are unable to use Hyper drives they yes they are toast due to speed limitations but if there is nothing stopping them from integrating and using SW tech then they would go with the 5th column approach slow take over method at least until they believed they had a technological and numerical advantage.
Mr Manceres I will admit that the Reapers could in theory integrate hyperdrive into their systems, but there’s a problem there and that’s fuel. They have a limited amount of Eezo and they’d need Tibbana gas to fuel the hyperdrive which is heavily regulated by the Empire in Anoat sector on the planet Bespin. They’d have to get it from that area which would carry a big risk considering they’re not familiar with the region. There’s also no guarantee that the systems would be compatible for long. The people in SW have been using and advancing the hyperdrive for tens of thousands of years, the idea that the Reapers would be able to simply get the tech and use it at the same efficiency is a bit of a stretch to me.
Millions of ME fanboys cry out in rage. Reapers are really a low tier big bad compared to others in sci-fi.
glad someone else gets this
Nerds fighting over fake shit lol
At least it is not as sad as watching grown men kick a ball around a field
They always were and thats fine. ME is low tier. So was Babylon 5 or Battlestar Galactica, or Firefly. Nobody seemed to have been butthurt about those.
They always were and thats fine. ME is low tier. So was Babylon 5 or Battlestar Galactica, or Firefly. Nobody seemed to have been butthurt about those.
This is the fan speculation I never thought I needed.
What is the song playing at the end? Someone please enlighten me
HOME- resonance
Thank you
Xenomorph VS Star wars
Era: After the Clone wars
SID there were comics about this
I agree whole heartedly Mass effects fall was based around everyone using reaper tech giving an easy in and the force would help many notice and even combat the indoctrination effect
Krennic wood just deploy the garrison easy
Or fire da Death Star
Can the reapers indoctrinate a flood gravemind?
no,especially the 1 in halo 3
Reapers: we are your impending extinction.
Obi-Wan: Hello there 👋
Palatine: GOOD!! GOOD!!
You have to consider a few factors in this scenario (I've actually always liked the idea of how a Star Wars vs. Mass Effect intergalactic war would go like):
1 - Are the Reapers going to use Collectors? The Reapers are geniuses besides their arrogance, but the Collectors are sort of their recon forces and also serve as their science division.
2 - Reapers may not be familiar with SW Galaxy's tech, but they will indoctrinate the populations of every planet they invade. Even invading an Outer Rim planet like Tatooine will give them insight in Hyperspace technology, which will make them faster than even the Millennium Falcon. With FTL + Hyperspace, they can run circles around Imperial Destroyers and ships. Same applies for every other bit of tech, especially weapons.
3 - Reapers have been active for BILLIONS of years. The main issue with defeating them in Mass Effect Galaxy is that they always outnumber the galactic powers by coming in tens of thousands *at least*. And they will likely be harvesting every species they come across in SW to produce more of their own. Unlike Mass Effect Galaxy, Star Wars has way more population for them to harvest even in a single star system.
4 - Like you said, they have Indoctrination on their side. For every planet they conquer, they could use the populations as cannon fodder and sleeper agents. A more important question is whether they would be able to indoctrinate more experienced and trained Force Sensitives like the Sith, the Jedi and other Force-using groups. Inexperienced and untrained ones (i.e. lesser Jedi like Kanan and Ezra, many of the Imperial Dark Side Acolytes, etc.) would probably be too weak to resist them.
5 - Given how the Reapers are created and their nature, Vader and Sidious would DEFINITELY sense their presence as you said, as would every other Force Sensitive in the galaxy. The Reapers probably would feel like an infinite wave of perpetually agonizing souls screaming, so I doubt someone like Luke or Galen Marek would be fooled into thinking a Reaper is "just a novel capital starship". On other hand, they might also be Wounds In The Force and be undetectable because of their echoes and mess up the Force, like Malachor V and Darth Nihilus in KOTOR. Billions are harvested to make ONE Reaper, after all. Whether this would actually empower Vader, Sidious and their Dark Side Acolytes or not is up for grabs.
6 - You are using the "Return Of The Jedi" time period, and that the Reapers would get the proper circumstances to apply their eons-old tactic of just letting the galactic powers weaken each other. The Empire weren't "so very close to defeat", and they lost only because of Sidious' arrogance and Luke's actions, which are beneath the Reapers' notice.
7 - You didn't mention a very important factor: the Droids. The Reapers would make reprogram all Droids to be their agents. ESPECIALLY if they found a Separatist Holdout.
Normandy sr2 vs... I don't know
The USS VOYAGER.
Elusive One vs MCRN Donnager
Iwo Rymer what year is the expanse?
40K wins
Elusive One Don't know, there probabily is an answer on the Internet
The reapers also use a MUCH slower method for ftl travel.
I vote for the Empire
The real question is, would some of the reapers be force sensitive, they are partially organic.
Probably
And seeing they are made of thousands of poeple
We know that if they are force sensitive it will be the end all to Star Wars
As there as 1 reaper was made per cycle
So 2,000,000,000 divided you 50,000 is 20.000 reapers
A Reaper trying to kill a Star Destroyer is like a wasp trying to kill a human in armor.
You underestimate the capabilities of the reapers. I mean who's to say that the reapers themselves would cause a ripple in the force? They are machines and machines have no affect on the force itself. Also it's highly likely that through their indoctrinated agienst the reapers learn of the weaknesses of star wars tech and adapt to exploit them? All I'm saying is that the reapers themselves are probably the best kind of invasion force you could ask for only because you can achieve the win scenario in multiple ways.
"Your galaxy is in sight. Your final days are at hand."
"We are the Harbinger of your Perfection."
"We are limitless...you are bacteria."
3:50 That scout trooper on the speeder bike. S/He are like "Hi Lord Vader, lovely planet we're subjugating, right?"
The Empire is incredibly sexist. There were no female Stormtroopers.
@@miraak542 Ah yes I forgot about that. They were also very intolerant of the other alien races. Probably a plot convenience to have a diverse group of rebels opposing a fascist Empire. Because every empire in media is supposed to be fascist.
Retribution class battleship from wh40k vs max calc executor class Dreadnought
Gloriana class vs Executor would be cooler.
Haven't watched the video yet, going to make a few predictions here. SW wins... again...
Force users somehow magically immune to indoctrination.
Death star somehow not overwhelmed immediately by reaper ships after getting off one shot.
Darth Vader and Palpatine effectively immune to damage.
Let's see how I did.
Halfway through video now... wait, just because the council races use projectile weapons the reapers would only be prepared for such? Despite them using beam weapons in that cinematic? Despite the Protheans clearly using beam weapons in the Prothean DLC? Kay.
Because the SW universe developed ship to ship combat in an uncontrolled, competitive environment, they're better than the Reapers? What environment do you think the reapers creators developed the reapers in? Stands to reason that was also a competitive and free setting. This argument would apply if it was the alliance vs the empire, but it doesn't hold true for the reapers.
Okay continuing on...
7:00 the reapers can't get out of the galaxy to deep space because "hyper space anomalies." This was the same race that constructed a black hole surrounded fortress for their underlings in ME2... they can manipulate singularities at will. But sure, okay.
Dont forget that the reapers can also turn any population into their own soldiers on a near whim ex.
The husks and all those they changed in the 3rd so quickly using the enemy soldiers against them so their brute force isnt conpletely incompetent but like you said their are too many to fight back so it all depends how quickly they can turn out more forces to combat the counter forces.
Good argument, but you make a few key logical errors.
Firstly, you assume all reapers are capable of subterfuge. There's no evidence to support that in the ME EU or the games - the only reaper who demonstrated that is sovereign who has millions if not billions of years of experience doing that, and he is only able to do that by tracking 50k years of civilization developing, thusly having an intricate understanding of the politics of that cleanse. Case in point, the geth, sovereign only allied with them because it was beneficial and it let the reapers keep being the boogeymen that the council races did not believe in. Sovereign would be a non factor in this instance as he stays (stayed) behind after every cleanse in the milky way. Your argument assumes that the reapers just show up with no prior knowledge of the politics, races, etc. of the star wars universe. To see how this works, look at what happened during ME 3 - the reapers were forced to fight a more conventional losses and took heavy losses, especially when (if) the krogan entered the fight. Harbinger was the oldest reaper and he never even tried anything resembling subterfuge - the whole thing with the geth doesn't count - that's worship and there'd be no major factions in the SW EU/legends that would worship the reapers in that way.
Secondly, you assume the reapers show up in the unknown region. For lack of a better term, here there be dragons - there's the chiss, several hutt cartels (one of which had enough funds to build a second death star superlaser) and more than a few imperial research facilities (namely the research facility near Kessel, the one that developed the sun crusher), with sizable defense forces (it's been a while, but i'm fairly certain the research facility at kessel had a super star destroyer). They'd start taking hits the second they entered and once the full imperial (or old/new republic fleet) martials, it's a short war - not to mention if they invaded during the clone wars the CIS would roflstomp them - droids can't be indoctrinated unless they are willingly accepted in (see the geth).
Thirdly, and more a nitpick, you don't discuss realistic engagement range. The reapers only engage at very short distances (under 5 kilometers, evidenced by a lot of the cutscenes in the invasion of/battle for earth in ME 3). Look at both death stars - they entered into effectively a lunar orbit and were able to destroy planets, from a quarter of a million kilometers. Star destroyers/republic capital ships don't have that range but they can take shots from ~100 kilometers away and still land shots effectively (see the battle of endor - it mentions it in one of the legends novels). If it came to a conventional battle it would be target practice for whoever happened to be against the reapers.
Mass affect would get clapped
Could The Reapers assimulate other technology onto themselves for more security, (specifically shield security?)
YES presumably they survived long enough to research new stuff YES
I think you're missing something rather important: the reapers from Mass Effect were created from the Mass Effect galaxy. In the Star Wars galaxy, the reapers would have harvested previous races and their technology, likely have some level of force powers, and would've set up Mass Relays to coax technology along certain predictable routes.
Why is that when ever someone makes a reapers vs sci-fi faction thing. This stupid comment always shows up.