Wanna be a Cop? Drug Testing and Disqualifiers
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
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were ar u a police officer at
+natalie40 da cidy
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lol but you can be a raging alcoholic and everything is just peachy
+eklypse13 nope. Friend of mine was fired for being a raging alcoholic. We just don't advertise it.
So the county isn't releasing that an officer was fired over alcohol? Seems very odd. Regardless, alcohol needs to be more strictly monitored. People are dying constantly over something in a can, it's fucking ridiculous. Enjoy your authority that was given to ya bud Lol, cops are only getting worse at the moment. Unfortunately 1 good cop can't fix them all. P.s. I have officers, ems, and fire in my family buy my entire family agrees our officers are a joke. There's no way to keep the power out of their head.
eklypse13 right? I know of many towns near me where off duty police officers, even a cheif, were caught smashing into things driving drunk etc. You can use these drugs because the government makes money off of them, but weed, nah, it's legal in your state? Lmfao! Good luck if you've ever even seen it before. It's so hypocritical and ridiculous
eklypse13 no u can’t even go out drinking without permission like that
eklypse13 most departments do not even allow their officers to drink publicly, or during the work week. Whether hose rules are enforced may vary, but in my experience they are enforced firmly.
So basically being honest will get you disqualified. Sounds about right .
Wow, it seems like some depts want sheltered people who have no real life experience or street smarts.
I am hoping that because they are run by cops they realize that.
Which is why cops are always fucking stale and don’t relate to the people at all
@Moosers so how is someone who smokes weed any different than drinking alcohol? How many cops go home and drink a beer? Oh but if they go home and smoke a blunt they’re a “irresponsible drug user”😂
@Moosers unless that drug is alcohol or nicotine, naturally.
No they want you to be honest and have a sense of morality. Which, you should also want a cop to have if they’re going to enforce the law to civilians such as yourself.
A polygraph test is not admissable in court, yet police agencies use to it determine what officers they hire.
I agree they arent the most accurate....but the departments know this and that is why polygraph tests are not the sole determining factor of employment and I would think are taken as just an extra layer of precaution.
It is admissible in court. I was molested by a husband and wife. Long story short, they both took polygraphs, both lied, and on top of all the other evidence it convicted them...in criminal cases, the psychologist and polygrapher even "rig" the test to make easier for the person testing to pass, and yet they both STILL failed. It would be hard to believe from the outside, but believe me, I know 100% they fucking lied
Also, I'm not some crazy feminist bitch who thinks touching my hair is rape and that we live in "rape culture." Whatever the fuck that means...i was a boy who is now a man
@@gratefram8130 that is a 100% false statement, in the US you can not use one as evidence unless the accused party agrees to it AFTER the results are found, that is the readily available information on the internet that anyone can look up.
@@jhondoe1483 They are admissable. You just said they are. Yes they need to have permission from the person taking the test. I never said they didn't. They are used often. Like in my case. I know, because I was there. It is never "hard" evidence, but it is cooperating evidence. If you have a pedophile who's story keeps changing, while the victims story never does and then the pedophile doesn't let the permit the polygraph to be used, that cooberates that he/she is a liar. There is also a large number of other ways it can be used in court. So unless the state of oregon is completely breaking all the polygraph laws, then they can be used. If you don't believe me, oh well
@@jhondoe1483 I would also urge to not make statements like "That's 100% false" unless you know it's 100% false. It makes you sound foolish. Just a word of advice.
can i still be a cop if i have 4 felonies and recently escaped from prison?
+miketh33 Yeah bro, stop on by. We'll get ya an employment packet.
miketh33 lmao
welcome to the force
You’ll fit right in.
miketh33 we need more police officers like u what a great man
lmao..They care so much about Police officers smoking a plant on the weekend..but everyone seems to forget the damage alcohol does.
So should we legalize pot federally? I mean they both impair the user if done to a substantial amount.
oltiousgoinham because drug tests tests for drugs not alcohol. Alcohol isn’t a drug.
@@ashc4167 Yes it is. A drug is considered anything that alters your state of mind
In this context I think it is fair to say that we are talking about illicit drugs. Under that definition you are suggesting that drug tests would ir should test for Tylenol.
NickIsGroovy not ALL places have seen a significant increase in MVC's. That is to say for those places which have, it cannot be directly determined that those collisions have been a direct result of an operator being under the influence of marijuana. A recent study showed that, an increase in motor vehicle collisions, most have been a result of the use of cellular devices or other distractive tool, or impaired driving due to narcotics or alcoholic substances. That is not to say that said increase was a result of ALL collisions being connected to the causes listed above. Meaning that there is a slight possibility that a few minor collisions may or may not have been a result of marijuana use.
I was more shocked with the fact that a fight disqualified you.
Yeah i know right, especially as a security gaurd
Explains a lot of those videos out there where cops clearly dont know how to fight, and turn to their weapons prematurely.
The people who make these rules generally don't have any experience with what it means to be a cop.
@@freefieldtraining thank you for responding, i agree with what you say. As an amateur mma fighter, i think only trained fighters/grapplers should be considered for peace officer employment. If you cant restrain and cuff an untrained but resisting suspect without backup, tasers, batons, mace, etc.... you have no business being a cop or carrying a lethal weapon. I think in the police violence debate happening in our country, a perspective that is rarely expressed is the lack of self-defense training afforded to officers.
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We have to be realistic though. The same argument could be made that to be a peace officer you should be a lawyer, paramedic, race car driver, truck driver, and competitive shooting champion. I think it is just as stupid to exclude someone because they have been in a fight as it is to exclude them because they have raced cars or are a competitive shooter. But it is equally stupid to think people can be all those things that our jobs are equal part of.
Do you smoke any weed, son? No sir, just drink like a fish and take these prescription narcotics. Welcome aboard!
The medical pharmaceutical sell more drugs than anybody heroin you can buy it on the street or prescribe by a doctor is the same s$$$$
So true.
don't forget steroids. I think that's a job requirement
@@mattkittredge hahah yea but to be fair i see its purpose for a job like that
@@mattball7074 never said I was against 'em 😂😂😂. Funny how nobody ever seems to get charged with that...ever... 🕵️♂️🕵️♂️️🕵️♂
I'm thinking about becoming a officer after getting out of the army, I just fear failing the lie detector test. The test are BS based off heart rate spikes/dips to certain questions. I just have a feeling being nervous to test will make it seem as though I'm lying.
+FullBattleRattle 249 they don't work, once you know they don't work then they stop working on you.
If everything you claim can be verified or at least not proven false you’ll be fine
Get a bottle of propranolol from your doc and pop that shit like candy before hand. Olympic shooters used it before it was banned to help regulate the shakes and other effects you have with a racing heart. I take it before I speak in public and my voice doesn't quiver and my hands don't shake. It's really nice I would image it would help you manipulate the test
FullBattleRattle 249 keep your chin up young buck,I just retired from Camden in 05,good luck to you
This is why they ask you a few very basic questions prior to asking their actual questions such as what your name is as it establishes a baseline. Additionally, polygraphs are inadmissible in court as they are known to show false positives and negatives as well as being notoriously easy to beat.
I wanted to become a cop once. After 4 years in the Marines I decide to go into Massage therapy instead. Glad I made that move. I make 6 figures, relaxed atmosphere, rub down hot chicks most of the time. Now after 20 years in the massage field I've built a clientele base that is like family. No drug test, no stress, knowledge of the body. check it out.
My wife would lose her shit if I did that, lol
I am so a Marine, recently got out back in September. Going to school but keep having law enforcement in the back of my mind.
I am a cop. I would def recommend finding other work. Not only do the citizens hate you, but departments are writing you up for things left and right. It is extremely depressing going to work these days. I tell people to apply to other jobs, it is simply not worth it anymore.
I do not believe you make 6 figure as an lmt
sounds like you made a better decision!
Sad that police are so against pot yet most officers will use their "discretion" when they catch another in a DWI.
Technically DWI is for alcohol and DUI would be for weed as its driving under the influence of a substance.
Just got out of the Marines and looking into joining the force. Your advice is very helpful. All the DQs seem like a broad range but moral of the story just be honest, integrity is key
No. I know people that were honest that got DQed for life while absolute scum who basically did just about everything you could imagine were hired and become decorated cops. Very dirty world.
Find a different line of work. The police force is already so militant that they think it's their duty to dominate the public . Nope we don't need no more of what you have to offer.
@@Green-bs4ex not what I was going for but okay bud. Was just stating im a Marine and know it helps get a leg up into LE. I don’t want the police force to be militant I’m a libertarian so no militarizing the police force is the complete opposite direction I was intending
@@Vikingrwilly56 You're not acknowledging that they already are militant and need to be stopped. They are already a danger to the public because they are mentally unstable walking around paranoid and starting confrontations with people for unjustified reasons. Why do think it gives you a leg up as you say? Because they like being militant and they want more militants like you. A person coming from a military background more than likely still has a military mentality and that alone should be a disqualifier.
@@Green-bs4ex they are very militant and I don’t want them to be. Not the military mentality I’m strictly connecting the two only as the soul factor that I joined the military to serve my country and want to do the same as a Leo. Not to militarize them. People join both for wrong and right reasons. People who come from military backgrounds tend to work hard and have good ethics that’s why a LOT of employers not just law enforcement hire them. Edited also having a combat skill set is also helpful to have already and have a foundation in that area also helps incase shit actually goes down. Most swat members have military backgrounds because they already have experience going into it. Being in the military shouldn’t be a disqualifier because that’s discrimination sir
Crazy how getting in the military and learning real tactics is easier seriously
Yup. I basically had to sign a peace of paper and pee in a cup then off to boot camp I went
@@youtuber55629 being a police officer isn’t even worth it it’s a fucking joke I ended up getting my cdl I make more than the police chief 😂😂😂
I am going interested in positions with law enforcement and appreciate your willingness to handle these conversations on video. Thank you for your effort!
A good polygraph operator will sit down before the test and go over any questions or concerns you may have before the test ever starts. Just be HONEST with them from the get go.
Sorry, but your remarks are B.S. The Polygraph and the CVSA are scam props. See the links:
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Eye Detect, pupil dilation is also the latest of these scams. There is no Pinocchio 🤥 effect when a person lies. These industries are making huge profits scamming us all. The USA 🇺🇸 Supreme Court, in an 8 to 1 majority opinion, 1998 US vs. Scheffer, ruled after exhaustive study and debate, that the Polygraph is reliable as the “toss of a coin”. The Pentagon also came to the same conclusion with the CVSA.
I like the LE hiring process education videos! The whole hiring process sounds incredibly daunting to a young outsider to the profession and having the inside knowledge on what is actually going to take place is helping out a lot! Keep it up and keep em coming PLEASE!
+L z I'm working on it.
Have you tried to treat with Weedborn CBD products?
Yeah, I made the mistake of working on the private side of the military and law enforcement industry after the army before applying to be a cop a few years ago. When I applied to the department in question I had literally just finished working a case with several of THEIR people who were the ones who wanted me to apply. I was sheepishly called back by the background investigator who I knew personally and had encouraged me to do this. He told me that since I had worked as a for-profit soldier and for-profit investigator they couldn't hire me. I came to find out after asking around to other cops in other departments I knew, there was no official policy on it in any department but the answer was the same. Because of my work in private military and for-profit criminal investigations, they couldn't hire me. I have actually partnered with that department several times since then as a consultant. They may not want me to take a pay cut and work there but they sure do love borrowing all of my cool resources and decade+ of experience investigating complex criminal activity. My billable hourly rate went way up for them after that. It really sucked though, they had some great detectives who made me want to be a part of their agency. I still take a substantial amount of their money though, so I guess that's the next best thing. Wow, I'm not gonna lie, as I write this I realize how bitter I still am about that entire situation.
Dude, you got fucked. That sounds like some political bullshit. I'd try a different pd and out of that state for sure.
Caffeine, nicotine, opiates, cannabis, alcohol: four of these are highly addictive and contribute to thousands of deaths, but the one that isn't/doesn't is the least tolerable in most depts.. Anyone else see the issue?
Two are illegal
free field training two are legal? All those substances are legal, you dumb dude.
Who is the government to tell you what you can't put in your body? Fuck them, do your job and after relax as you please whether it be shrooms, weed, adderall whatever.
Great video!
I have a very clean background, but I've been DQ'd at 3 different departments for various reasons. One department had a scenario based questions in the oral board, and they didn't like that I tried negotiating with a knife-wielding suspect before killing him. But like you said, each department has their own idea of who they want.
The process is so long it starts to get disheartening and feels like you're wasting time. However, after watching this video, I feel inspired to try again in the future. I had to move on to something else to pay the bills, but later down the road we will see what happens!
+Chris Smith Stay at it. It often takes years to get an LE job. Many places will find a reason to DQ anyone under 23 as well.
Hair tests are good for 3 months. They use 1.5 inches of hair from the skalp down, the rest is typically discarded.
Strict standards for hiring LEOs is absolutely essential but I think some of it is going overboard. Departments are denying themselves good candidates by being so draconian. My grandpa was a cop for 34 years. He worked narcotics in NY from the early 60s into the 80s. He was a boxer as a kid and was very good at it. His felony conviction rate and bravery won him medals. Scumbags would shit their pants when they saw my grandpa because he had a well earned reputation. He spent a few nights in jail before he became a cop, barfight in his early 20s. Nobody cared. It wasn’t uncommon at all for a cop to have made a few mistakes before joining. It doesn’t automatically make you a bad guy.
I am a recovered addict and is absolutely one if the best things That's ever happened in regards to my character and I assumed would be a great strength when going through law enforcment recruitment
And you’ll be absolutely cooked if it was a narcotic issue
I just wanna do something good with my life.
Same here brother
I hear a lot of people that say they want to be a cop, but smoke weed or do all kind of stupid stuff. I think about every action i've made since I was 16 because I want to be a police officer. No reason to fuck that for myself over something dumb.
IconicYT same here.
IconicYT great for you I'm sure they'll give you a gold star for that
Chris Jones hey eat shit
lol well you must be a fun guy to be around huh?
everyone i know lies on applications
Your gonna miss out on your teenage fun years and regret it 20 years from now.
Isaac Graham relax bro
This is why a lot of cops ages 21-28 I meet are grown up versions of the goodie ROTC kids they were in the 10th grade. They might have seen some stuff on the job and wear a little hard face but people who have had a real taste of the criminal element cops deal with can see right into their heart of hearts. It might do some good to loosen the regs up some, the burned hand teaches best.
Yeah FR! Training does not equal experience.
Experience and familiarity are what you need in people dealing with criminals. Boyscouts simply have not been tested or taught like people who were "bad kids". If you don't know how to buy drugs, how to deal drugs, how gang shit works, how effective are you gonna be compared to the guy who does? It's kind of a paradox, to defeat a serious enemy you must know them and to truly know them you must be them.
@@stnicgglemploy2794 War on Drugs is partly a failure for that reason. 100,000+ ppl dead from fentanyl overdose in 2021, large proportion were DARE graduates. I
This is gold! I really wanna thank you for taking the time and making these great videos. I have no one I can reach out to for any support or info - unfortunately. However, I feel much stronger and have a bigger drive because of it! These videos means the world. Thank you so much! From your fellow Chicagoan!
You and your channel are amazing! The information you provide and the commentary you provide is some grade A material. Since you have covered education, drug testing, background checks, and disqualifiers, do you think it would be possible to make a video about the physical requirements? A lot of those videos out there (at least the ones I found) that cover the topic, are some ploy to buy a workout program of some sort. I understand that not all departments are the same, but I feel as if even a general explanation of what to expect and how to be prepared for it. Thank you for what you do, both on the streets and on the internet!
+Jordyn Stanley There is so much variation it is a tough topic, but I'll see what I can do
Thank you! I would appreciate anything you could provide and so would those who in this community!
Smoked in high school, they were cool with it. Forgetting about motor vehicle stops that involved not getting tckets was my disqualifier.
Micheal tell me about how they found out about the motor vehicle stops that got you disqualified thsnkd
@@stevenbrennon9284 any time your license is run its in the system whether or not you get a summons. How its disqualifying, I live in a town that is full of nepotism. When a son, daughter, nephew, niece, friend etc is lower on the list than you they will find and use anything against you in order to get to the lower certified person.
@@46AFD aye bro i have a question about that im almost 18 and i used to smoke when i was about early 17 ish and before that but i have stopped since then i am gonna become a police officer would i have to say that i used to do it back then or what would i have to do bc idk and all ik is i cant become a cop anyway till im 21 so i just dont know
@1onearm-pd9qd yes. It's best to be honest and upfront. Depending on how they do the background investigation, I'll use mine as an example. They will talk to your family, neighbors and your friends asking questions about you. Let's say you say no but someone they talk to says yes, you've portrayed yourself as a dishonest person.
this helped no one. its literally one of your stories you want to share.
but it does have the right answers here and there.
Hair testing is only good for about 90 days back. They only test the most recent 1.5 inches. Also there have been a few times working as a stagehand that we have gotten high just by working. No one working that concert would have pissed clean, and our security is a mix of law enforcement students and full officers. Tell the truth and let them know about stuff that might have happened.
I had applied for a clinical research trial for non-smokers (tobacco) and hadn't had any tobacco products in about a year, but I worked at a restaurant where everyone smoked. The clinic rejected me because I had tobacco tracers in my system, they actually said I had to have been smoking because there's no way I'd have those levels just from second-hand smoke. Very BS.
WRONG they can break down the proteins in the hair and see everything you have taken even after you are dead.
So why do they keep saying up to a year
Trying to be a corrections officer in Vermont how far back does hair / mouth swab/piss test go etc
Hey brother I m looking forward to be in the force where I live and your videos are very helpful👍thanks man
I got DQ'd for admitting to smoking pot 2 years prior to applying. I was already in their reserve program for 3 months, when they offered me the full time position and opened my background pack. Just so happens they had a 3 year policy on drug use.
Wow
Another big factor now is your social media! Keep it clean and proper.
Exactly I was watching some videos about that in the background check so just basically clean it up, go threw it delete things that will make you look bad, get rid of videos of you drinking or doing something dumb, just basically keep it clean get rid of negative stuff and like he said stop doing drugs, show them that your changing your life around
so basically if there's no past evidence on the subject lying seems to be the smart thing to do at the time
Brian Rodriguez Logic would dictate that. When i joined the Army they had me talk to a FBI agent to give my statement about the event
Well i am glad i am 12 so i have some years to think about it
Remember that in the US, even if marijuana is legal in your state, it's still illegal on a federal level, so you are still breaking the law.
its easier to become a president than a cop lmao
valter gjergji We have a higher moral standard than most presidents lol
In my state they are
So short on LE they hire anyone who passes the piss test, has no felonies, isn’t crippled, and is not mentally challenged. They don’t hair test. They poly but they don’t go off results just for shits n giggles. No psyche test either. Too many DQ’d on it and they couldn’t get the numbers they needed. Still can’t lol. Depends where you go everywhere is different.
Lincoln If you don’t mind me asking, which state are you in?
It's not easier, it's just that the process of becoming president is such that anybody with these issues - drug abuse, violence, etc. - will succeed at becoming president. It doesn't need to be a formal disqualifier.
I just got charged with a misdemeanor and I’ve always wanted to be a cop so thank you for giving me some info
Give it some time, like 3 years or something. Also, do something that would show that you are a changed person: volunteer one day a week somewhere or improve your education.
I’m a former correctional Officer.. I’m also considering Phoenix Pd.. so.. thanks for some inspiration lol.. my teenage years were the knucklehead years lol
“Police officers can’t stand liars” 😂 that’s rich
Hair follicle tests only go back 90 days
had no idea tom segura was a police officer
Someone I served with did some blow and still got in to the PD.
Always wanted to be a cop (homicide) but I'm starting to veer off since this is getting too political. Guess I'll just keep getting my education on and do something else. What a shame.
Some of the biggest coke users in my area have gone on to become police officers, in fact a sgt for a pretty big sized dept that I know of in the northeast was one of the biggest blow dealers in town. Ironically he now works for a DEA task force and his number of arrests is staggering
This video goes for fire department disqualifiers, although there’s some places that are less strict, they still have a high amount of “ disqualifiers” ( even though I’ve heard of firefighters with DUI’s) the best way to pass it, and the BIGGEST point of the video should be telling the truth, you might get suspended from applying from the fire department for a certain amount of time, but it’s a hell of a lot better than lying and getting perminatly disqualified, the biggest show of character is past history and time, if should repeat offences recently, you won’t get hired, but if you where to have a criminal history but show you turned your life around, like if you had a past of drug use, you volunteer your time for drug rehabilitation places and helping those addicted to drugs
Hi there, I would like to be police officer, but English is my second language. I decided to join the National Guard because background history looks better with military records .When I signed my contract for the National Guard I was unfamiliar with army procedures, even I didn’t know how march. I only went to one drill weekend and they send me to basic training , that’s why in basic training I was very confuse about Military instructions. The drill sergeant begun saying that I didn’t understand English. They decided to send me back to home because they wanted to send me to English school to Texas. When I went to the National Guard office, the sergeants told me that it was weird , that they send me back to home because even I was talking with them in English. My recruiter took me to meps to take the English second language exam to see if I was able to send me to English school in Texas , but I didn’t qualify because I get higher score. My MOES in the National Guard was 19 delta, but my recruiter asked me if I would like to change my MOES 19 delta for 11 bravo to not have the same experience that I had when I went to basic training and I said yes. My recruiter was trying to make a negotiation to change my MOES , but they said to my recruiter that my process could delay until 2 years and the best way would be get discharged for 6 months . So I get general discharge, but I will come back in July. Do you think we this discharged it is going to be hard to apply for police officer?
This video is so helpful. I am 14 years old, wanting to be a law enforcement officer when I grow up.
Curtis Staples trust me you wanna smoke a lot of weed
Ben Docherty LOL i am 16 and i didn't smoke weed yet and I don't have intention to😂😂 (wanna be cop in the future)
Ben Docherty don't think so...
Michael Birch yeah. my area does have one, and I am planning on applying in the next week or so.
meto iam going to the military 1st
I used to have a really bad Heroin Addiction, I’ve smoked weed probably over 300 times, I’ve done LSD, Mushrooms, Molly, Painkillers, and cocaine all back probably around 7 years ago. And I’ve been 100% clean and off of Heroin just over 4 years (just had my 4 year anniversary). I haven’t used any illegal drugs since then. I’ve never been arrested or convicted as an adult. I have completely turned my life around and really want to make a future for myself in Law Enforcement. I’d love to become a undercover officer helping rid the streets of the very drugs that ruined not only my life, but my family, killed dozens of my friends, and ruined their family’s lives one day (that’s pretty much my dream, or even working for the DEA, but I seriously doubt with my past I could ever become a DEA agent). Even if I were to submit to weekly/daily drug test or honestly whatever they wanted, and monthly Polygraphs or whatever they wanted. Do you think I could ever have a chance at Becoming a police officer? There’s nothing more I would sincerely love to do than fight the drug war and help save young people’s lives that all these terrible opiates are devastating and destroying. I would greatly appreciate a honest and open minded response from any active or retired LEO’s. Or any advice or help on what I could do to better my chances. I mean even if I had to sit at a desk for 5 years to prove myself as trustworthy to the department I’d be willing to. I know I was meant to do better things in my life, and I plan to do it.
You have absolutely no chance if you tell them anything of that "if they drug test me once a week" your not out of the woods
Yet buddy I'm not buying it .... my advice tho lie to them don't say a fking word about any of that nothing to lose because the other way your fked you don't have a police record which is good
Ben Dover liver too
Lol @ "help fight the drug war". Good luck w that one bud. They can keep scooping water out of the ocean, but the ocean will still be there. Congrats on getting clean, but you are misguided. Better to have false aspirations than none however.
Sorry man but the answer is absolutely no chance in having a future in law enforcement. Forget the poly and all of that. When you go and speak to the psychologist (as part of your psych eval) you will be disqualified. They aren't going to hire you and then spend the money on giving you drug tests every month or a polygraph every month. You have zero chance
Just lie the polygraph is a joke just don't stress about it when you get in or they will catch you just stay calm and if you fail it's no biggie they wouldn't have hired you anyways
Legally they are only allowed to test 3 months back. It all depends on the length of your hair if you were smoking during that time. 1.5 inches is all you need to get a proper follicle done. And that takes about 3 months. So shave your head and wait over 3 months and you'll be clean for sure.
I'm smoking weed as I'm watching this
Classy
Good don’t stop, don’t be a cop. Make a difference in the world then come home and get high no biggy
@@CuTThrOaTCriS why do so many people come to this video to hate on cops?
Here in America there have been many cases that have come to light showing that American police departments are corrupt and hide the illegal activities to continue locking people up so they have to either pay a large amount of bail, or just sit in jail awaiting a trail.
You understand that you get bail money back when you show up to court right? Bail is not a bill that you pay. It is surety. The state doesn't get to keep it.
I'm a recovering drug addict who decided to get clean and sober over two years ago. I know that when I decide to apply I will be absolutely honest. No charges ever. Just some hard core dark places.
@@thomasryan2679 still drug free. But yeah. I get what you're saying three years later
Did you get the job?
@@edgardflores4992 im a carpenter. Im really aware years later that I probably don't have the proper headspace for an officer. I think im more suited to a bubble where I am in no authority.
Thanks to your channel I gained the courage to follow my dream and so far I am currently a Police Explorer. I intend to continue down the path towards Law Enforcement to eventually become a Police Officer and ensure the safety of others thank you! Love yoir videos they really help :)
My son started on the bike as a public service officer when he was 19 and then got hired as a dispatcher with the same agency.....as soon as he turned 21 he was sponsored by that agency and is currently in the academy.....it takes a fair amount of effort and commitment but if you get in decent shape the PT won't be a huge issue....best of luck 👍🇺🇲
I know this is late but actually hair samples are accurate for 5 months after that there is no way in telling if you have ever done drugs.
It's a good thing they are not racists by not assuming all black people do drugs or drink alcohol and can't pass drug/alcohol tests. 💯 🎓 🙂
What if you have a serious misdemeanor conviction, but it was removed from your record (expunged)?
For some reason this question is always avoided? Maybe after having one it is permanently gone?
Also many police departments don't polygraph anymore..In fact the polygraph has been proven time and time again to not be effective in anyway and does not prove if you are being honest or not..This is why many police departments have stopped using this test on the pre employment screenings
Polygraphs are still a major part of the application and hiring process in police and sheriff departments. In fact, most state agencies still use them. Virginia State Police, West Virginia State Police, and Maryland State Police are all agencies that still have the polygraph exam in use. Now if they are ACCURATE is a different story. Best case scenario is that you are 100% honest with your information you provide and you ensure that you are not too SOL if something does disqualify you. A smart aspiring LEO would apply to multiple agencies to ensure the achieve their dreams.
Im sorry but thats inaccurate.. if you do some research you can learn about the many and I mean MANY departments that no longer use a polygraph examination for pre employment recruitment purposes..As for them being accurate there is no debate on the subject. Polygraphs are extremely inaccurate..might as well flip a quarter..Heads says he is lying, Tails says he is telling the truth.. You can do research on both of these areas if you would like to learn for yourself. As an aspiring LEO I have taken, completed and excelled on the deputy sheriffs exam for the sheriffs department in my city and will be completing the remainder of the exams in the weeks to follow. I posted my comment to further educate aspiring LEO's who watch videos like these and then lose hope that they will get a job in Law enforcement just because of a stupid inaccurate polygraph..For all of you out there don't give up and I encourage you to do some research and apply to the departments that don't polygraph, as well as the departments that don't nick pick and DQ honest, hardworking, men and women for prior marijuana usage.. I know there are a lot of you younger guys out there that fear they will be DQ'd all because they used to smoked some weed but don't worry, there are many agencies out there that with their shit together that realize prior marijuana usage doesn't determine you are unqualified for a LEO position. This guy in the video said some agencies won't let you on with them if you have smoked weed in the last 3 to 5 years haha its a joke..That may be the case with some departments but there are many agencies that realize the generation we are living in and have an appropriate recruitment process. As long as you no longer smoke and do not plan on continuing to smoke you should have absolutely no problem with a lot of these agencies. And do not listen to this guy when he says it takes years for marijuana to get out of your hair lmao. Marijuana stays in your piss for 30 days and in your hair for 90 days. These are the facts and if you don't believe me ask your local doctor. Don't settle for an agency that is so caught up and worried about hiring people who use to smoke weed and go for the agencies that care more about your character and what you have to offer.
+Matt Ryan Polygraphs are junk science. They only test for stress related to a specific question. I know plenty of guys who were bounced because they were nervous while taking the poly. I'm not saying it is fair or good. However, they are still very widely used. A few agencies, or even a few hundred, out of the over 4,000 no longer using them for pre-employment screening does not mean that they are no longer a thing. It is something that people should educate themselves on prior to taking the poly. I think that would save many a career. As to the time cannabis stays in hair I am not a doctor. But, I do know that people get caught up on a lie all the time and DQed or fired based upon saying they never smoked and it popping on the drug test they thought they were far enough out on. I wouldn't want to limit myself by continuing to smoke weed. Like I said in the vid, start studying for the drug test now. Problem solved.
Yeah well they should scrap the poly entirely..especially how big the need for LEO's are right now. I know of many departments that are starving for new recruits but yet their process to become one is way to ridiculous. Plenty of good men and women out there that want to serve and protect but can't because of that stupid test. And as far as how many departments use the poly I know there are a lot but all I can say is I live in New York and NYPD polys but other than that I've yet to find an agency that does, along with the entire state of MA and Oregon..so there are a solid amount of departments that no longer use that exam during the pre employment process. As far as weed goes I use to smoke weed regularly but I no longer do and will not again and in doing so I have got myself clean before the drug test and had absolutely no problem as my background also confirmed that I am squeaky clean other than my prior marijuana usage. Oh and I was smoking weed up until about 4 months before I decided to stop. So what I am trying to say is that just because someone who smokes weed decides to STOP and get CLEAN for their drug test does not mean they are trying fool anyone..I like your videos man I just don't think prior marijuana use is as big of a deal as a lot of you guys make it seem..As long as you stop and don't plan on picking it up again I don't think it matters how long its been since you smoked as long as you were clean on the drug testing, good background..etc..
+Matt Ryan In some places pot use is no big deal. In some places licking whipped cream off a stripper isn't a big deal either.... Keep in mind that police administrators are almost universally at least one generation older than recruits. Sometimes they are two generations older. Plan accordingly.
Same exact drug use rules as being a merchant mariner. The company you work for can random test you, the coastguard can order the whole crew to test, and the client company that hired your company can random you. Most boat companies even have snitch programs with 4-5 figure "bonuses" to report people drinking on the ship in the gulf of Mexico oil patch.
Great stuff! Very informative! Please keep the videos coming.
how do cops get into this and pass drug tests
but i literally got pulled over buy a cop on cocaine still on his nose?
That might be white powder sugar from a donut. Police officers love donuts for the sugar energy boost they provide.
Law enforcement, based on recent experience/research through our local department's Citizens pOlice Academy, is not and should not ever be considered a "job." It is definitely a calling. You have to be passionate/love what you do as an officer, be thick skinned like armadillo with kevlar on and a turtle hell for additional protection. lol! People will call you/family every name in the book and some that would make sailors blush. You may do good academically. You may be honor grad at your particular academy, voted most likely to make Chief of police one day etc....However, actual police work out in the field is a whole different critter altogether. Real bullets, bad guys, dead children, rotting corpses etc...Think about this. Anyone can excel in ideal conditions.It's how you will be able to handle the really tough life changing decisions/situations and their consequences that will define you.
I appreciate/understand why some people may be drawn to a career in law enforcement. We all want a fulfilling career and police work is an honorable profession. Contrary to popular belief cops are not cruising around in their patrol cars stalking innocent civilians because they have nothing else better to do. For the most part, you will be doing something that will have you feeling good at the end of the day and not some dead end 9-5 cubicle office job whacking away at a keyboard all day. I feel you! I have twenty years in the military. Active duty retired a few years ago. Have worked in several jobs where pay was decent but I was miserable and ended up resigning within 3 to 6 months. However I know myself well enough that there are some careers that are truly off the options list. Law enforcement for example is not a career one should jump into for the money/benefits. This job will test your resolve to the extreme and some. The public, due to some bad apples in law enforcement, have also made it their mission to be out there just waiting with cell phones in hand for an officer to trip up in order to hang him/her for it. If you are 100% positive that you are strong enough to deal with this type of craziness then full speed ahead friends! :)
In conclusion, before diving into this career do some real honest to goodness soul searching/research. Everything looks great from the outside looking in. However I strongly recommend folks sign up for a few ride alongs with officers. One time will not due the trick for most people so sign up to go out with these guys on different shifts, districts if practical for you and see the realities of the career in the flesh rather through the lens of someone else's life experiences/interpretations. Ask to have a sit down with them if possible and interview them. Ask them how they came into this career and if it has turned out to be all that they had imagined. Believe me nothing ever comes close to or compares to experiencing this type of career first hand in the flesh. :) If after you have done your through research, ride alongs, interviewed officers etc....you feel you can still handle the demands of this career then go for it. Once in remember where you came from and don't allow the prestige or authority of the badge blind you to the fact that you are a public servant and not a paid thug in a blue uniform. If it ever becomes too much seek help! Military lifestyle is not so different when we are deployed to war. Help is out there folks you just have to be honest with yourself and ask for the help that is out there for you. Just my opinion/perspective of course. Take care and good luck to any/all future police officers. Stay frosty out there and come home in one piece! :) lol!
+Ediberto Leal that's the plan brother, congratulations on the retirement.
Give a shoutout to all the bartenders who risk their lives and marriages to serve the people and most importantly stay friendly your jobs are riskier than everyone even police officers probably because unviolent people get sought after to pay petty crimes just to get by...thepeople Its hard to save lives when good people get fucked with and statistically violent drunks are still on the streets you bartenders are the true heros who stay frosty thank you for hearing us and serving the people with a smile
Are SWAT teams usually competent in combat? I've seen a few videos of SWAT teams being very capable at peacefully apprehending mentally ill suspects, as well as ending threats, but I've also seen a clip of SWAT officers rushing into a house, getting shot at, getting wounded, and the non-wounded just ran as far away as possible while the patrol officers were trying to stop them and get information. I want to join CMPD and work my way onto the SWAT team because I wanna be the best of the best when it comes to dealing with dangerous people in my own streets. I'm just curious of how much private training I should get or if I can confidently know I'll be training to be extremely proficient with firearms and CQB and negotiating
The fact people still try to make sense of this points to the broken nature of our systems today
I would discourage anyone thinking of law enforcement as a career. Don't do it. The pay is very low and the danger is high. Also, police are not supported by local authorities and not by a large section of the public. There are many safer, and better paying jobs. Please don't dedicate your precious life to serving an ungrateful society.
What if I took half of one hit and didn’t inhale 62 years ago?
Automatic DQ.
Very informative video. I had to go back and watch it a second time. I was distracted the first time by your majestic mustache.
Btw former almost lawyer here man if it’s actually expunged nobody can see it no matter what they say most places
Seems like there is a gulf between "almost" book learning and real life.
@@freefieldtraining “have you been convicted of x ever ? Even if it was expunged” - in kentucky at least the law straight up says you don’t gotta admit to it and that’s pretty typical for most states but yeah man I couldn’t tell you how to get expunged
This may be late but are these prone to a dq:
8 yrs old: •stole wet wipes from a Walmart
10 yrs old: •got into two fights
12 yrs old: • stole a pair of headphones from target
• smoked weed like 3 times
13 yrs old: • got into a fight
These are the buggiest things I’ve done. I’m gonna be going for an associates in admin of justice and once I’m done I will apply to become a police officer.
Also I’m a pretty nervous guy but I want to start meditating in order to calm myself down.
If you're on antidepressants, will you be DQ'd?
That's what im wondering
You should be ...
No. I applied for my city’s police department and was qualified to go on and take the physical and written exam. I asked the officer if those types of medications would disqualify me. She said no
My cousin, she’s on antidepressants, and she got hired by nopd.
I applied, was very honest and truthful. Passed all the testing to start the academy. Was shot down for my past being "too affiliated."
What does "too affiliated" even mean?
free field training Well I ran around on the streets selling drug hanging, out with gangs etc. Just up to no good. I am a complete 360 now from who I was but it just a little too late now.
Legalize drugs is the answer to less corruption, less violence, less sexual violence, and end the corruption in the informant system that is failing us all.
You didn't touch on exspongement things. Like I'm looking for a slot of info on that please
Yeah I was as well?
A Chicago cop saying "Police Departments don't like liars"??? I literally laughed out loud at that one. The irony!!!
Dude is Awesome!! Very helpful in cutting through the BS. Quick Fast and to the point!!
Another thing for people just because your state legalized weed doesn't mean you can do it and become a cop, fireman, ems/paramedic, rise up in the military, or get a state or federal job. It is banned federally and agencies funded by the feds meaning ALL follow federal regulations. It maybe legal for use and purchase but it'll cost you that particular job. Best to avoid all illegal drugs or that is Federally controlled scheduled drugs if you want a job in Emergency Services, the Military, or Civil Service.
Life on track? I use drugs and my lifes perfectly on track i just wanna become a police officer. No need to be an as***le about it
My friend put himself through an academy. He has a bachelor's degree and a good background overall. No one will hire him. He's got a DUI.
+Darth vader expungment is always an option down the road as long as he keeps his nose clean for several years.
So I have a dui with court supervision in 2013 on my 20th Birthday. Next year in 2014 I began college and received an underage drinking ticket (no arrest). I'm 24 now with a clean record ever since. Will any department accept that?
Tell him come to Milwaukee county cops have those here
I have had a misdemeanor offense conviction for discharging firearm in city limits not with Violent intent but with gross negligence of human safety
do I have any hope
My friend who’s a city cop... NOT me, did pure fish scale coke with 3 guys from LA county sheriff’s dept the other day.
Wanna live a “bad boy” life as a cop. Come to California, where my friend (not me) and his friends work at. Or Miami too. Same lifestyle and procedure for cops.
if i disclose that im prescribed adderall for ADHD would i be disqualified
I asked about this. And the officer told me that add meds would not disqualify me
I kinda doubt it but it would depend on on which police department you’re going to apply at. It’s best to ask that police department about you using prescribe medication like Adderall for stuff like ADHD/ADD.
It's funny that I've often heard being prescribed adderall wouldnt be a disqualifier even though the molecular structure of adderall is shockingly similar to methamphetamine
@@minorcek Similar doesn't mean same. The biological and chemical profile for metabolism and length of time for binding to receptors in the brain are very different.
@@The_Kirk_Lazarus oh, I should mention that I've used both substances and can attest that they are shockingly similar.
This is the video that got me to quit smoking weed when I was 17. I'm not even joking you. As corny as this sounds xD...
That ain’t corny, you prolly made big bucks in high school if you was selling dat bih
Same i love mary Jane but i have not smoked it in a few month and i wont anymore because im gonna be a cop
How’s it going did you end up pursuing a career in law enforcement
@@glowz621 was only a year ago, I'm quite young. Just enlisted in the national guard as a 12W to get some carpentry and masonry experience as a back up in case law enforcement doesn't work out for me. After I get back from BCT I know a couple people up at the jail a county away I'm going to take the test and apply for the CO position while I do online schooling. I figure with the military experience and the college credits it's a good start when my town or state decides to give the civil service exam. I'm half way there! I'll keep you updated
@@somerandom4506 Get it man, best of luck to you! I’m about to start college but I’m still deciding wether to be a firefighter or a sheriff.
No agency asks if you have ever been in a "fight" within the written testing exam. Not true at all. The written exam tests your basic H.S. academic knowledge. The exam also tests your integrity, character, and memory (timed study session then closed book answer session). The bottom line is that the physical and written tests are usually done in the same day to weed out most applicants (about 65-70% of the original applicants). Then at that point, they give you the background packet and tell you to be very detailed and specific with all questions. When you bring the completed packet back to them, they review your answers and compare the info with everything they have researched about you (criminal background, driving record, credit report, contact your references, not limited to previous co-workers, neighbors, etc.). If all is well, then they will schedule the next step which is the polygraph exam. They ask specific questions based on the answers from your background packet and their research. They want to see integrity in the polygraph exam. Integrity is a must with a good Police Officer. That's why the polygraph is one of the first personal steps in the hiring process. 1. Physical, test, 2. written test, 3. background, packet, 4. Polygraph exam, (criminal/credit check,, and driving records will be pulled during this time). 5. If you pass the polygraph then they will schedule a physical health exam then 6. A psychiatric exam. 7. The oral board (a professional employment interview conducted with 3-4 superiors, who will purposely try to stress you out and make you feel uncomfortable). If you pass all the steps and give them your personal and honest answers to their questions then you will be offered a "non-post-certified police officer cadet position and given a date to start the 6 month long police academy. Its 40 hrs a week, m-f. You will perform physical conditioning standards throughout the academy with set minimums, but most of your academy time will be academic, learning laws, codes, and all job related processes and procedures required. If you pass the final exam, you will become "post" certified and become a peace officer. Depending on the city they usually have a field training officer to shadow you for the first 6-12 months after graduating the academy.
Plenty in the Midwest do. Keep in mind that testing processes vary between agencies states and areas.
Thanks for the video’s very helpful. I’m in my background process. I’m a little older in my 30’s and I have NEVER HAD ANY SOCIAL MEDIA. I have never opened or specifically opened a Facebook, MySpace, or any other type. of account. I guess there is always a first for everything. But seriously thank again hope I can come back and tell you some good news.
In my opinion, don't smoke anything.
Dont drink also
Mm... DQ's... Dairy Queen... Ice cream... Mmmm...
+Clickbait Noodle you must be from Indiana. My neighbors there are obsessed with dq
@@freefieldtraining aye Indianapolis!317
@@freefieldtraining wait what does DQ have to do with Indiana?
I'm from Indiana and I eat there all the time, what gave you that assessment?
Well I can cross police officer off my list for possible careers, this shit is way too complicated to get into
I studied the drug test by taking all the drugs
I truly truly feel like this is one of the really good ones
The "drug war" is such a failed joke. So you can smoke tobacco and drink all you want but smoking weed makes you an evil person? Oh and not to mention if your doctor prescribes you opiates or other narcotics thats okay too. what a stupid and hypocritical stance. If you want to make all drugs illegal thats fine, but make tobacco, alcohol, and coffee illegal too. It should really be an all or nothing deal. As long as you are not hurting anyone what business is it of anyone else to say how to live your life.
They bully people to pay to their city or else.. Its part of what they do
What about prescription medications? Like what if someone has to take pain medication that doesn’t impede their motor skills, driving, etc.. I’ve heard the drug testing agency/lab can’t even tell the employer if you have a positive result as long as you show the lab your prescription, then they send it in as passed. It just seems like a total loss of so many people who would make amazing officers.
You cannot use pot and be in possession of a firearm. That is a federal law.
What if your roomate uses pot and you don't? Can you still own a firearm?
Depends on how vigorously a Prosecutor persues a Constructive Possession case .
Your best practices would be to keep your firearms secured and locked ( preferably in a safe ) where the Prohibited Person has no access . Except when they are under your direct control .
Not just potheads , but any Prohibited Person .
"we don't want cops lying on the street"... LOL SURE!
I'm 18 now and I haven't touched weed since I was 16 or 17. When I turn 21, given that I don't go near it again, should I disclose that I have had weed in the past? Or is it better left unsaid given the time gap?
+Andrew Jasper you have to frame it properly. In your case "have you ever used recreational drugs".... "yeah when I was a kid, like 16-17"
Don’t lie. I was hired along with several individuals who were open and honest about past drug use. The number one thing the department looks for is integrity.
Explain it on the polygraph, but don’t explain it too much, if you start going into a story the tester might think your hiding something, just say “ when I was a kid around 16 or 17”
It needs to change, no reason I can get blackout drunk after 6 shots try to fight my friends push my family away from drinking, but I could go be a cop my right hand is broken from drinking, I’ve never hurt myself or anyone whike being “High” there’s no reason you can drink and not smoke it’s unacceptable I know it doesn’t impair my driving been pulled over 4 times in the past year only 1 was trouble because I was going 96 in a 55 he never expected me to roll down my window and he gets a second hand high. Went to jail but it was for the felony speeding. All off my record, I’m not saying use it on the job. But there’s cameras it may be in my blood or piss just like them teas I was drinking at 4, 5, 6 in the morning, and it’s so sad you call medical Majuana a drug when it’s a natural plant god made for us to enjoy, but we can ingest poison BECAUSE A DRUG IS BAD FOR YOU AND ALCOHOL IS POISON KILLING YOUR LIVER, oh but your lungs….. IT GETS DISGNOSED FOR PEOPLE WITH CANCER ESPECIALLY LUNG CANCER. But hey I can go drink bud light for the next 5 months mske stupid decisions hide them well like my dad, my dads dad, so on so forth, dad got booted from the marine stationed In Japan not to get into details but reason is alcohol, my dads dad, died when my dad was 6 being murdered reason alcohol not to get into detail I’m not here to argue because you can tell me I’m wrong but for a fact weed is a million times over safer and it would be amazing if we could have a way all cops quite until it happens or get it wrote have the body cam on me all day have it in the car my hat my glasses my ear piece I don’t think it’s fair
What mental health issues are permitted. I have been on mood stabilizers, anti depressant and anti anxiety medication in the past when I suffered from PTSD but I have since recovered. Would previous mental health problems hurt me during the process?
What happens if I was standing next to my friend who was smoking weed. Am I infected 😩
I think the real question is why are you friendly with hardened criminals??
@@thelvl1bandit345 can't tell if trolling or the "war on drugs" brainwashing got to you
Excellent video! I do have one question though: I've always heard that hair follicle testing only detects up to 90 days. Do Police agencies use a stronger/different type of follicle test that can detect a range of years? Thanks in advance for the input.
The issue with testing ant how long it is good isn't just how long it has been since you have used, it is also often about how long it has been since people around you have used. So, folks that are into that lifestyle find it very hard to pass the hair test even after stopping for a few months. Best to just not do drugs at all.
@@freefieldtraining Are you saying that because you are near it you might show a positive result? That is very unfotunate when you cant really control the environment of which you live depending on your situation and you definitely can not control your roomates decisions.
@@anonyt3554 I didn't say life was fair, just reporting my experiences and the experience of those I know.
@@freefieldtraining Oh I know brother I was just stating that it sucks if that is the case. Guess I will have to wear a hat while I am at home lol. Thanks for the reply your the only youtuber that has consistently responded to my questions whether it is in a live stream or in the comments. I have more respect for the police than any other profession In the world you are an inspiration and an amazing source of knowledge for me. You are the only youtuber that makes in depth and detailed videos regarding how to do things related to police and security work. Your video on how to approach domestic situations and learning geography have helped me as an armed security professional many times. Once again thank you and please keep doing what you do no matter how people treat you guys these days. Be safe.
@@freefieldtrainingI did have a thought though. If as a police officer you are around marijuana smoke while dealing with it on the job, does that mean you will get fired for a positive result from the hair test if they decided to do a test for some reason? Like if your were involved in an motor vehicle collision?
It’s harder to join the police than it is to join the military now these days.
Joseph Ludwig it was supper easy to join the army
That’s rights folks if you are stealing the office pens and get caught or you throw candy wrappers out the window of your car whilst driving and you get a ticket forget about becoming a police officer. You also have to cut of family members that are doing illegal things and you have to cut loose of friendships if the person you know is doing something illegal. What are the ground rules on drinking alcohol when on vacation or when you are off duty ?
I have never done any drugs, sigarettes or alcohol, have never been in contact with the police or justice system, but I really think I'll get a DQ for the following.
When I was like 6 or 7 or something, I walked out of a store without paying for a couple of Lego bricks and the fact that that happened still bugs me. I don't remember when or where exactly it happened, but I'd feel so much better if I could have finally apologized and paid for it. It might sound trivial to some, but it sometimes keep me up at night because I'm so ashamed of what happened.
Cigarettes with an s is wild