TikTok Has Been Banned...
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- Опубліковано 23 кві 2024
- Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we take a look at the big surprise development that has effectively banned TikTok unless it chooses to divest itself or leave one of the biggest countries. It has one year and while I have no doubt Bytedance will put up the biggest legal fights it can, it's scary to think now that whole apps can be banned in one of the most free nations in the world. Thanks for watching!
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Correct title: TikTok will be banned
Tiktok Might be banned*
tired of the clickbait lately
That Will be great
Who thought muta would resort to clickbait titles …
Tiktok will just be sold to Microsoft or Alphabet, is my guess.
Instagram Reels gonna be even crazier if this actually ends up happening
I haven't been on Instagram in so long. I didn't even know they had shorts.
it’s not gonna happen… it’s too popular, and too many people’s money comes from it. there’s a legal expert somewhere out there that can manipulate the technicalities and all that, and stop it from being taken down, even if they want to shut it down. iIt’s think this is all a publicity stunt
And you're so sure because...? You're writing the laws?... @@warriorgrl3076
@@warriorgrl3076"publicity stunt" you mean preserving national stability due to the fact TikTok is literally a psyop created by the elitist authoritarians known as the CCP?
Most people are gonna move to instagram with a few to youtube just like when vine shut down
As someone who despises Tiktok, the potential ramifications of this ban make me worry about the internet eventually becoming "bordered". Regulated by every country to the point where contact with people and websites outside of one's country gets put behind restrictions put in place for "security". In a way every country creating its own "Great Firewall" even if they don't censor internally. Perhaps an absurd worry, but the ban doesn't entirely help.
Not absurd at all. These kind of laws is exactly how it's done.
No, this ban is extremely important, TikTok is destroying the youth, they have been dumbed and manipulated by a fascist government!
It's began to happen in many parts of the world already. You've just been lucky because you are NA.
Banning of all social media would be one of the only liberties we would be granted in our lifetime if you think that that is bad or unconstitutional you like to be controlled
Yes! We need a open internet but only amurican companys allowed btw 😂
It’s not a fight for our safety, It’s a fight for our data.
I'd rather my data go to a western country than something like the CCP. All in all, I hope Tiktok gets banned for good
anti-china youtubers reminds me of the trump supporters that think DJT has "free speech", but then bans lefties users because "can't have ... undermining our country"
Truest comment here tbh
Which is funny because Edward Snowden exposed the US for spying on its own people via data collection.
As someone who has never used Tiktok before, this is one of the bans of all time
How can you live without it
@@DontReadMyPicture93 OK. Stop SPAMMING everybody not to read it.
@@DR.DisInfect because our brains haven’t rotted yet
Literally, first tik tok I saw out of the box was extremely inappropriate, not the kind of thing any person would want to see. People say, "It's the algorithm, that's your fault," It was the FIRST one 😭
@@DR.DisInfect Fym how can you live without it? It’s an app 💀
“i might not be a canadian” the muta lore thickens.
That’s like the only thing I know about him is that he’s Canadian. is everything I know about him a lie?? lol
9:09 The truth is out!
living in canada does not directly equate to you being Canadian. that's definitely wild, though. I thought he was lol
@@Brixster I think his tongue just slipped, he said something like "I might not be a canadian, but sometimes feel like an american" which would make more sense if he meant to say american.
@@kyley69woyoteyeah that’s probably what he meant. Him and JJ mccollough are the only Canadian UA-camrs I really know of and both of them have basically said you could accidentally call them American and that would be close enough
China fighting for the right of free speech is a classic sitcom trope, recorded laughs and all
lol
There is literally no free speech in China. Anything coming from them is a lie.
The right to subvert western culture and turn us all into blithering idiots is more like it.
China is a "need to win twice" country. China have all the say which and how oversea companies can operate in China. China also have the say on all their state owned (or not) companies can operate anywhere in the world in whatever way that CHINA want.
@@RealAvus not anymore. China can do what it's told or lose the US market for our data. I don't tolerate Chinese apps, glad our government is starting to put their foot down.
So weird to see a Chinese company shouting "but muh constitution!"
Ya no shit lol. Do they just nor understand the fact that China allows literally none of North americas applications to be hosted for the Chinese application hubs. Can't even talk bad about government personel or systems
its a Singaporean company, they are part of the British Commonwealth, a Chinese company bought a load of their shares on the open market, that's all.
@@davecantrell7603yeah “bought shares”
@@davecantrell7603 ByteDance was founded in Beijing.
Which is headquartered in China, so it’s a Chinese company
The youth will now go from third grade reading level to fifth grade reading level 😂
maybe they'll finally beat a goldfish's attention span
@syloui Well the damage has already been done, at least now they will function more like humans
This is a really ignorant way of thinking about this situation. They’re doing this because this is how real news is spreading. It’s about them controlling the narrative. This should worry everyone
There's still shorts and reels.
they will just find another app because bad parents still exist
Dude.. them slipping in these tiny little 'clauses' in a big ol bill that has nothing to do with what they're passing should be illegal.
This is a regular thing that happens. First time ever looking at a bill?
I mean I could see how they could make sense if used with bargaining chips. I'm sure it was also well known that the sentiment for TikTok was negative being seen as a security threat. So if that's the case it'd be something like if you want Ukraine aid a condition would be that TikTok is banned. In which case it isn't being "snuck in" and is an explicit condition.
How would you make that illegal?
@@Vaxular doesn't change the truth of what he said though.
@@RetreatSequel bills shouldn't be passed with bargaining chips.
Either the bill can stand on its own, or it can't, and it shouldn't pass.
US government really be like: we don't want you spying on/ruining our kids. So sell us Tiktok so WE can be the ones spying on/ruining our kids.
It'll eventually get taken over by the Department of Homeland Insecurity - for the kids sake.
@@KOZMOuvBORG And if they need more ideas for nationwide brainrot, look no further than the Federal Bureau of Instigation. Those prisons won't fill themselves.
Tik tok is not the reason why young people are anti war. If they dont understand that we see through their hypocrisy then there is no future of them oldies leading us. ☠️🫡
Which they already are. See Edward Snowden.
Muta be rocking *the hair*
put a bandana on, Ordinary Snake,
and become the legend once more
Indian KSI
No...put an eye patch on and a bandana. Become Big Boss.
I do agree with Muta on the last half. This is scary for what it could mean in the future. I feel like the people who are celebrating are too shortsighted to see what this could mean in the future. Allowing the government to dictate anything about the internet that isn’t illegal is bad. It gives them too much power to limit our freedoms
Thank you for stating this
i am no longer woohooing at this thought. dang it
Same thing that happened with Alex Jones. He was the first person to be banned off UA-cam like that. I have absolutely no doubt this will be the start just like he was
for real. right now its "yippee app I dont like banned!!!" but it only spells trouble for the future of a potential internet free from a government's chokehold.
Finally someone pointing this out.
It’s crazy that the us gov can just slide seemingly unrelated laws into these massive packages, then vote on them without really even reading into them haha
yes, yes it is.
Nobody reads anything
It's crazy how the government has 1000+ page long bills with 900 completely different potential laws, instead of having a separate bill for each law. But the reason they do it is so that no one wants to actually read through them cover to cover, that way each side can squeeze in whatever miscellaneous bullshit they want to have passed
@@maxpro751And that's an issue...
They read them, they just weigh passing the rest of the law vs the tiny additions they sneak in.
It’s a big reason why a lot of laws don’t get passed even though both parties agree on something
i HATE tiktok but this is clearly overstep by the government
Just keep paying taxes dude.
@@Charlie1776_ whats that mean to mean
Its a test. Next they‘ll come for the entire internet. America doesn‘t hate china it wants to be a dictatorship just like china.
TikTok is a Chinese psy op and and it's fair to assume the government knows way more than what we already know, it’s not just brain damage videos it’s collecting all your data for ww3 it’s the only exemption in my opinion from freedom of expression
@@Charlie1776_ - guy with 1776 in username
I use TikTok for cute animals, shitposts, book recs and recipes. These American owned companies use our data the same way yet they’re not banning them, just the one they can fear monger about.
And them dictating this is concerning.
I'm not an American, but I'd rather have my own government spy on my information than another government, especially China.
Although I don't think Tik Tok should be banned, comparing Tik Tok to other similar apps and saying they handle data exactly the same is just false equivalency. If the US government wants data from a social media company, it is extremely hard to so. Apple has fought the US government several times to retain their data and won. Even if let's say a social media company you use gives your data to the US government, you can fight that in the courts if you so wish. In China, it is literally the law that if the Chinese government asks a social media company to hand over their data they MUST comply. Not only that, but it is also required by Chinese law for a member of the Chinese Communist Party (or CCP) to be on the board of every company in the country. If you want to get your data back from the Chinese government, good freakin' luck, at least with the US government you have a chance. At the end of the day I think people should be allowed to make their own decisions, including using an app that is required to give their data to the Chinese government, but nonetheless people should still be aware and not just assume all social media apps are the same with data handling.
Perhaps all the kids suddenly disliking Israel has something to do with it
‘These American Owned Companies’ don’t reside in a country where the government mandates companies include highly invasive spyware solely for the purpose of data scraping for state espionage and societal control. Why is it that every company that becomes majority owned by a Chinese company suddenly adds unnecessarily invasive spyware?
@@bogusshmogus1670 everybody hated tiktok long before you pretended to care about palestine.
The fact that politicians in the US can just stick completely unrelated bills onto things they know will have to get passed, like they are unimportant little post-it notes is crazy. Actual trojan laws.
TikTok sucks rotting your brain
@@Mackenzie002 They just mentioned how slipping unrelated subjects into a bill is wrong their comment didn't even mention TikTok. How do you know if they used it or not? Maybe you immediately mentioning brain rot is a sign of brain rot.
The fact that you said the fact that shows the fact that you didn’t really need to say the fact that
Not unrelated since 1) the ban has been talked about for years especially recently and 2) it's all part of the "fuck China, support Taiwan" package.
Omni bus bills need to be banned, and anyone who says nothing will be passed without them are fools.
This isnt just the start.
Credit Card companies and PayPal since the beginning of this year have started restricting where you can spend your money overseas
Idk i feel like it makes sense. Paypal is a service and credit is a loan. its reasonable to expect you to only use what you truly own and not expect them to support you using them outside of us territories, bc thats a risk for them
@@grey4980 Heres the thing my guy. The new terms that some of these websites now have to enforced for some weird reason talk about politics and woke culture.
@@grey4980 Sooner or later VPNs will also not be able to be purchased.
Test reply (my replies were being deleted).
Edited- for some reason any reply I was putting in about in detail about what **** and ***** were doing to other sites were being deleted. I don't know what's going on, but this is messed up.
PayPal doesn't even have the credentials to do this, they are not legally considered a bank or any type of financial institution.
The CIA and NSA mad that they can't spy on their citizens through Tik Tok
They didn’t need tiktok before, they don’t need it now. Why are you mad a foreign enemy’s spyware garbage is being reigned in?
While I absolutely despise TikTok and the damage it has done to attention spans, I agree that just banning it for being owned by a Chinese company is dangerous, and sets a precedent for other countries to do the same to American applications. To be completely honest, I don't know how this is going to go in court, but one thing that's certain is that it is going to set an industry defining precedent.
Genius misintreptation of the original context. Tik Tok isn't getting banned for being Chinese its getting banned for intentionally pushing a brainrot Algorithm on American and other Western citizens that is not experienced on the Chinese platform. It is an almost manipulative form of warfare on us and China knew what it was doing.
A lot of people don't know this, but the exact same thing happened to the gay dating app Grindr in 2020. Grindr was sold to a Chinese-owned company, and then the USA forced Grindr to either defer back to the USA or be banned.
The Chinese owning a gay dating app will never stop being funny to me.
Finally 1st amendment shall be banned
Usa 2024= germany 1939
@@Calvin_Coolagewell china legalized lgbt back in 2md century soooo
😂@@Calvin_Coolage
@@Calvin_Coolageanything to collect data on foreign interests
I have the freedom to pick which ever social media spyware to use.
Freedom to not give a shit.
You say that but the US government already colluded with search engines and app stores to remove socials they didn't control like Gab. Even went so far as to have payment processors not work with them
You don't and there are many other services and "freedoms" you don't have, but since it isn't tiktok you don't care. Js
yay spyware!
You do not and have never. Foreign adversary owned products have always been regulated/controlled. It has never once been a right of yours and wont start now. You get to use what you are allowed
I draw the line with an app if the country of origin doesn't use/bans the app from their own country, it probably isn't worth anyone else using either. China/Tiktok have no stake in North America, therefore no real way for them to effectively be punished for violating laws and paying to promote crime, as they already have with the Kia iPhone charger theft videos, instead of removing the videos, they went viral and even got monetized with ads.
using tiktok to track key location which phone visited an specific area many times to know hes an employee of that building labeled important places to know whos who, then they can push a targets phone to update a modified version to sniff for data , i still remember how tiktok on iphones copy text input from other apps
So funny how our country can focus on TikTok while it can’t focus on the actual stuff that’s hurting this country
Yeah....definitely china spying on us isn't harmful
If they actually solved problems, that would put the geriatric turbo boomers in Congress out of a job
Right. They only care if it brings them profit they don't really care what happens to their customers
This is actually one of the reasons they want it banned to.
🤓
Just to note: immediately after this was announced people affiliated with the CCP met with various US politicians to talk them out of the ban.
Lmao
are you surprised?
What a strange hill to die on 😂
well our politicians take money from other countries so nothing new there
Can't spell CCP without CP
speaking as some one who never used tiktok even once I wish you all that do well... but I my self will be unaffected by this.
I think tictoc being banned will actually benefit the United States, hopefully people’s attention span will go back up
Never actually thought this would happen
Well hasn't actually happened their just gonna sell
@@DontReadMyPicture93ok i wont
It hasn't happened.
@@The_MEMEphisthe ceo already said he isnt selling
@@bryonjacobs9860 he said that in the context that he expects to beat the ban unless he can undo what's already been done they are gonna have to America is way to big of a Market
Ever notice how they always sneak in unrelated things into these bills?
That should be totally illegal. How is the United States free at all?
It’s not sneaking if those whose job to read the bill before approval do their job and read the bill before approval.
The bill itself was the tiktok bill, but the legislation for tiktok itself was buried way way beneath aid for ukraine and israel because reasons. The bill had nothing to do with tiktok and was so they could send billions more to countries that arent ours while everyone talked about the tiktok ban instead
@@CJ2808 Ukraine and the other nations can fend for themselves their big boys
It's not unrelated.
"Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Application Act"
Pretty interesting sounding act 💀
I don’t like how vague that bill is it allows politicians to exploit loopholes
welcome fo politics. that's how the game is played nowadays.
*Achievement Unlocked*
I did it, i managed to avoid and never download that app ever on any device and now its gone 🎉
Same
Same 🥳 though the bar is so low, I didn't consider it an achievement 🤣
never downloaded it either.
It will still be there just your manipulation will be run by an American corporation. Doesn't that seem safer.
Same lol
The clickbait was not necessary.
Yes it was. Everyone needs to know the danger we’re in if this bill passes… being banned and thrown away for doing nothing illegal sounds like North Korea to me… not America. We’re going down the drain because of all these geriatric higher ups…
@@NOISEEROOM The title was misinformation. While I agree that giving the government an inch is dangerous as they will take a mile, I don't think lying is the best way to spread information. How is this different from reading a CNN or Fox News article? I still don't believe the clickbait was necessary.
@@NOISEEROOMAmerica has been a totalitarian control surveillance state for decades now with corporations having more power than the government. Tik Tok itself isn't something to worry about as the NSA & Patriot Act already existed long before it. It's a smokescreen to get distracted by
@@RandomRussianGuy dude it’s not cnn though…. It’s a UA-camr clickbaiting is the modern way of getting things out there I admit it can be a crusty and dumb thing to do sometimes but it works..
@@NOISEEROOM agreed
I want to add a little, this ban won't just include what you can install but this will also include what you can buy. If this law is left unchecked. I saw some people in different video comment how this law is a win, it's not its a very dangerous law.
I like the Captain America quote: “Every time someone tries to end a war before it starts, innocent people die, every time.”
Can you imagine being in a part of the world where Police turn up at your door for posting something on social media? Yep i do, the UK now does this and its been all over the news recently
YAH Wtf you guys do up there
While I'm happy to get rid of Tiktok, this sets a dangerous precedent for the government to ban any sort of website they don't like. I wouldn't be celebrating this ban personally, because who knows what website is next
Bro they ban websites all the time. They ban people off platforms all the time. The govt helped ban people on twitter LOL its been happening since before covid. Noone care until it is too late
any site directly owned and controlled by the CCP, thats the point
All of the adult content websites needed to be banned or made illegal
Uhh, they can already do that though. I can't tell you examples due to yt speech policing but the "feds" closed a lot of websites.
The bill is nothing like that. It's specifically targeting apps controlled by foreign adversaries. It's like saying "I don't like how this law is cracking down on black market website, they can use it ban Amazon too."
I have never downloaded or signed in tiktok from the beginning cuz every time i set next to someone scrolling on tiktok i feel disgusted because of the shit i see, I always wished it to cease
I agree it has more bad then good
If anything i hope this is going to make Android more popular or eventually just have people go outside
Since its simpler to install TikTok on Android it will be funny if Apple suddenly loses a lot of market share from everybody under 25 and Android suddenly becomes cool.
Android has way more freedoms than iPhone anyway, although this situation is a great example. I have no idea why people continue to support Apple.
Apple is being forced by EU to allow sideloading of apps like how they forced Apple to use USB-C. It's only a matter of time.
This crossed my mind too, but I think people care about their iPhones more than they care about TikTok, so I don't think it would happen.
@@czaczaczar you could always sideload apps though?
Not implying a conspiracy here, but I find two things about this to be interesting. First of, the timing. Passing this bill during an election year, when TikTok's been around for years now. Isn't that coincidental? Second, how they just slid that into an unrelated bill after there was public backlash from pushing a similar bill by itself. It seems very sus, if you ask me.
Not a conspiracy if it's true. The Gov always does this kind of thing around election time.
the election timing might be coincidental, the process has been going on for a very long while now. for the second point, you might be on to something instead.
They have tried to do it for years now
It takes a LONG time to pass bills in the US. You must not be an American citizen if this is surprising to you.
A good example is the ACTUAL unconstitutional bill called the NFA act and Hughes Amendment of 1936, which finally had a new clause in 1986 that banned newly manufactured full auto weapons from being sold to private citizens. That is 50 years from the beginning of the registry to the end and ban of new sales.
Yep, the Palestine-Israel issue is making them worried about their votes
Lmao at the "you can criticize anyone freely in the USA" as if people hasn't ended up in watchlists or been fined and/or jailed for saying things online over there already, and not even like borderline terroristic speech, just plain criticism and shit talking has gotten people into trouble.
The TikTok reply to the ban sounds like it was made by angry Chinese bots
I stand with Benjamin Franklin, “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”. That said, no one can watch all the platform’s videos to say it's clean from manipulation. The fact is everything is trying to manipulate you all day. Be it work or a Tide Pods commercial. Now put an advisory into the mix and you have disaster. We are not passing on knowledge as we should. If the people had the knowledge, they would not fall victim to manipulation. How can you coddle and teach at the same time? You can’t.
The fact that its a chinese owned company that is banned in china says all I need to know about tiktok. It will be good if it goes.
I don't think comparing the abuse of a tax hungry monarchy is the same as banning an app that's being used to spy on people for China
@@Mephiston 🙏👍😆 ^ Well said, well said.
So true legalize drunk driving and all amphetamines!!!!!
@@Mephiston So are you saying that to fight China the US must become them and adopt their censorship laws?
This came up right as I was watching a short about the ban. Talk about timing.
Corny ahh comment
@@SonGokuuuuuuu Very insightful, SonGoku with 7 U's
no shit ur gonna see content everywhere ab it, it just happened XD
Many TikTok users might move to platforms like UA-cam or Facebook, but those who promote misinformation or inappropriate content won't last long-they'll be banned quickly. Platforms generally have stricter content policies, so those who spread nonsense may find it harder to maintain their presence.
Why isn't Twitter/X-crement targeted yet?
@@KOZMOuvBORG considering that China has banned mostly every single major social site, I'm okay with the US Banning TikTok
@@matrex187 I was referring to the torrent of disinformation that "Enron" Musk has been spewing ever since he bought Twitter.
This ban on TikTok is a stepping stone for many, many more. It’ll be a slow process but I feel we’ll loose a lot more digital freedoms
Eventually, everything will be behind a paywall &/or require a subscription. q.v. Louis Rossmann.
Helping your American people afford to eat:❌
Banning a dancing app:✅
Banning an app that causes trouble like those tiktok trends, hhmm seems this is not a concern
Tik Tok is'nt just a dancing app. It's a weapon of mass brainrot.
we all know removing tiktok will feed the homeless
@@bobbygoestoabyss6624you say that like yt isnt brain rot either
@@bobbygoestoabyss6624YT Shorts and IG Reels ain't much better, man. And quite frankly, all three is pretty much the same.
Not too thrilled about this. What will they ban next? What goes around, comes around.
ur name lol
Maybe the Muskverse... or the Zuckercube ... No wait... there is this thing from the orange crybaby called Truf Sofel.
Maybe another app owned by the government of one of our biggest enemy. Hopefully.
Finally 1st amendment shall be banned
Usa 2024= germany 1939
Some people are gonna freakout over this ban because they weren't expecting it but those of us who saw the security threats 4 years ago knew that the writing was on the wall
I really agree with you on this one. Its none of the goverments business what I install and use on my device for social media. Its a really slippery slope, and I hate tictok.
Literally Nothing is going to change for me
Same
All of them will come to UA-cam to make shorts, get ready for a flood of brainrot
🤓
Yet
congrats
US Gov: We have to ban TT!
People: Why?
US Gov: Because China might use it the same way we use American Social Media Companies!
People: Wait what?
US Gov: What?
Ah yes... the good old whataboutism...
@@bobbygoestoabyss6624 It is quite literally about US wanting to control all information.
@@bobbygoestoabyss6624it’s not a whataboutism, it’s literally just the truth lmfao. Every American tech business is doing the exact same thing.
@@bobbygoestoabyss6624found the fed
@@falcon1378I don’t think that’s necessarily true. TikTok potentially is influenced by the Chinese government significantly more than US companies are influenced by the US. Also, it’s not hypocritical to want to influence other countries whilst not wanting your country to be influenced by them.
America Youth has leveled up!!
XP + 500
IQ + 5
"free world" being "free" just as usual
Its not banned yet, it could take 90 days or be extended for a year
It’s like 9 months, they gotta sell b4 or it’s ban.. they gonna go to court most likely so possible it might extend but if they have that timeline I’m sure US will push for a quick hearing and not drag it out, me personally idc ban it as soon as they can.. only feel bad for the small businesses
Right, I'm sick of these clickbait titles.
@@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpolebut it will be what’s the difference
I think all data collection should be outlawed! Why do I have to give any data to buy something?
A store I recently went to would not let you shop with cash in their store without giving an active email and phone number?
I walked out and left a basket of goods at the register..
wtf, that's crazy.
Yeah I only do stuff like that for things I really like and know I’ll use. I really don’t like doing it but saving some money is helpful.
Why should it be outlawed? You realise the platform you are using right now relies on data collection to stay afloat, right?
@@Razzanonymous It shouldn't have to.
I agree on this post.
I can't believe I feel bad for TikTok, but here we are. As much as I hope that this isn't a slippery slope to a controlled internet, it really does seem that way.
For the past several years; CISA, the CIA, the FBI, etc. have all been working with western-based social media companies to censor and ban posts and accounts which share information the government doesn't want its citizens knowing about. We are already on the slippery slope, and have been for some time.
The biggest issue USia has with tiktok, is the fact that people can spread the news on their own, that they can communicate stuff without much of filtering, can share ideas like wildfire, can unite instead keeping getting divided by politicians.
Wrong. Start with how it’s owned by China but banned in Mainland China. Name a US app that’s banned in the US but sent out everywhere else?
@@SugarMilk99 incidentally, china has problems with tiktok for the same reasons as USia.
9:11 I may not be Canadian.
Muta just outted himself.
Always knew Muta was a fed...
Immediately started checking to see if someone else caught it
Muta is a sleeper agent confirmed
That timestamp, that claim and that colour of his skin his giving some possibly important clues.....
That last clause in the bill terrifies me.
The idea that the President can deem a service a national security risk and get it banned means Biden could literally say a website like Twitter can be banned overnight.
Which is exactly what I see happening.
Just keep paying your taxes dude.
LOL Good luck if Trump wins! He banned a real, actual, First-Amendment-protected news agency from the White House briefing room because he didn't like their stories. Imagine what he'd do to the internet with this power lol "Fake news! Security risk!" "You're also Fake News! Security risk!"
Welcome to China
They've already been blackmailing social media corporations to censor and ban accounts critical against US policy. CISA, CIA, FBI, etc.
Sleepy joe can literally ban Dairy Queen for not having chocolate chocolate chip available on one of their stores.
I hope the US Supreme Court justices take decisive action against this unconstitutional bill because lawmakers in the USA can't be trusted.
Neither can the US supreme Court.
People being terrified and exaggerating over tiktok being banned shows how addictive tiktok is. People can even get agressive when someone takes their addiction away overnight, crazy right?
I know right. It's only an unprecedented expansion of government power to restrict one of the most important rights (freedom of speech and information) that Americans hold dear.
As much as I hate TikTok.... Muda has a fair point that we should have the freedom to install whatever the fuck we want.
It can be argued that during major war time freedoms being inconvenienced or temporarily sacrificed is acceptable, it's what we define as war that needs to be discussed, as with the advance of technology the battlefield expands to many areas of grey-zone warfare including political, and informational warfare.
TikTok is by definition an informational warfare apparatus of the CCP (as Muta spoke about at 4:38), ofc there are at least 2 sides to every war, so the US having an information warfare apparatus of it's own is to be as expected, so I don't get the 'hypocritical argument' which simply would not work if we reverted to a 3rd generation warfare apparatus, as just because one side has tanks doesn't mean the other side is hypocritical for using tanks too.
If anything it means the other side is smart for not lacking tanks.
5th generation warfare (warfare via non-kinetic military action, such as social engineering, misinformation, political corruption, cyberattacks, along with emerging technologies such as artificial intelligence and fully autonomous systems), is something we should, as forward thinkers be prepared to be inconvenienced by in the future, maybe something similar to war-bonds could be set up for 5th generation warfare sacrifices, what that would even look like idk...
All the concerns about foreign influence operations on tiktok is kind of missing the point imo. You can run an influence operation on facebook, Instagram, twitter or any other social media and indeed people already have. What we need is comprehensive legislation to limit and regulate data collection regardless of platform. I hate tiktok as much as anyone and I do think their content is particularly insidious, but I don't think it will be any less so if facebook buys them.
@@bodiwire we need a 5th generation warfare protection bill to prevent stuff like this from happening at a much larger scale than just 'foreign controlled applications'
@@toasteroven6761 That was the same argument used to pass the Patriot Act LMAO. Again if the Chinese government really wanted your information, they can legally purchase it from the various US data collection companies. The fact that the bill was sneaked into an Ukraine funding bill shows that it really has no leg to stand on, and the same politicians are already pushing the KOSA bill aimed at further censorship.
@@toasteroven6761 Yeah, a lot of people don't even know about The Laptop because Google, Facebook, Reddit and Twitter 1.0 banned any discussion of it during the election to the point where just screen shots of the story were put a higher flag priority than CP.
Government dictating is all, it’s just the beginning. Letting this happen is a punch in the gut for freedom wether we like tik tok or hate it 🤷🏼♂️
Welcome to America pal
@@Charlie1776_ yup 😔
yea i do not like this
It can be argued that during major war time freedoms being inconvenienced or temporarily sacrificed is acceptable, it's what we define as war that needs to be discussed, as with the advance of technology the battlefield expands to many areas of grey-zone warfare including political, and informational warfare.
TikTok is by definition an informational warfare apparatus of the CCP (as Muta spoke about at 4:38), ofc there are at least 2 sides to every war, so the US having an information warfare apparatus of it's own is to be as expected, so I don't get the 'hypocritical argument' which simply would not work if we reverted to a 3rd generation warfare apparatus, as just because one side has tanks doesn't mean the other side is hypocritical for using tanks too.
If anything it means the other side is smart for not lacking tanks.
5th generation warfare (warfare via non-kinetic military action, such as social engineering, misinformation, political corruption, cyberattacks, along with emerging technologies such as artificial intelligence and fully autonomous systems), is something we should, as forward thinkers be prepared to be inconvenienced by in the future, maybe something similar to war-bonds could be set up for 5th generation warfare sacrifices, what that would even look like idk...
I think if their suit goes through, the countdown stops til the court settles it
Hip hip hooray
So as long as an American made social media company can sell user data from across the world, it's fine but a foreign one can't do the same with American data.
Yep, that's right.... does it matter witch country (US, EU, CHINA, RUSSIA) has data??? No really because at the end of the day ALL data broker trade with themselfs. For us people we still get the same spam, ad's and threats(maleware/spyware) either way it really does not matter!!!
Yep. It’s the CCP that’s the problem.
Only reason I prefer American spyware over Chinese spyware is because it's not governed by Commies
@@cat_clan_leader Great job choosing the lesser of two evils, you sound like a biden voter 😂
@@vvizardsfan I have a very hard time finding how being anti communist means being a Biden voter
96 billion dollars to fight a dictator and to sponsor one at the same time 🤣
gotta love it man
Money make the world go 'round.
The really funny thing is you could argue which one is which.
Personally Ukraine is the Tyrant along with the CIA, while Israel is the inverted.
But I'm sure you feel exactly opposite because that's cool and pushed. 🤷♀️
@@NickyDekker89 you gotta know its deeper than money
@@qrud It's dangerous to talk about that on YT
Hey would you consider doing a video on the nazca mummies again? New developments have come to light, love your videos on aliens and UFO's!
My main issue is that if the US show they will ban apps here is if the gov pass a law that is bad for individual privacy for example then ban any apps that do not conform that would just be a net negative.
Correct title: tiktok is being forced to change hands or shut down
Today, tiktok.
Tomorrow? UA-cam's competitors.
UA-cams competition isnt chinese communist party owned. These things matter. The only way the government can do what they are doing to tiktok is because its owned by a foreign adversary. It is very explicit when you actually read into it.
@@CJ2808look at the fed in every reply section 🫵🙂
They have no reason not to sell other than losing surveillance capabilities for which there isn't a violin on the planet tiny enough.
Digital Patriot Act here we go
Congress expanded the 'Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act' just this week and that literally is Patriot Act 2.0
@@addyhadmelike655For sure
I honestly don’t like the idea of the government blocking any websites or social media services. It’s creepy that all the other ones get a pass
all the others arent run by the CCP
would you use tiktok if it was owned by the CIA?
The government bans all sort of websites, sites selling illegal goods, underage p**n, scams, even some gambling. I think "social media app controlled by hostile country that has direct access to hundreds of millions of citizens" is a good one to ban.
its cuz they have control over every one of the other social medias while dont have control over tiktok.
Just be glad you're not living in China or Iran. Trust me... I know how it feels. Currently using a VPN just to write this comment.
Finally 1st amendment shall be banned
Usa 2024= germany 1939
I am just really impressed by Muta's cable management here :D
They’ll find a loophole. TikTok will never completely go away.
They are all going to come to youtube after its officially banned.
TikTok has a year to find someone to buy it. If they don't, THEN it's banned.
@@growingsage Which isn't going to happen considering China said in no uncertain terms that they will block any deal from going through. They do not want to sell Tik-Tok, period.
@@coffeefox5703 Which should really tell us that it's about more than the money and the ban is probably justified in terms of national security.
Another thing to add onto this is that if Tiktok gets permanently banned, that means that over thousands of small businesses will be losing their profit and their jobs for life. Now of course they can just switch to other platforms but it takes a very long time to gain back revenue,
Move to another platform lol. Simple. If they're relying on soley tiktok, they were doomed to fail from the start.
@@acrr0447 Yes because Facebook, Insta, Twitter and UA-cam are very well known for their algorithms that dont promote large businesses/scams (sarcasm). TikTok has allowed a broader reach will less interference, compared to Meta which will constantly require you to make clickbait in order to get any sort of favorable attention. Nobody is relying solely on TikTok, but its an extremely large platform with a diverse range of users; why would anybody be happy to see a large free source of marketing dissapear due to hysteria? I implore you to educate yourself rather than continuing to comment stupid things, the internet is free. Information is accessible, its your responsibility to stay up to data and not smooth your brain out prior to your alzheimers diagnosis
@@acrr0447 Exactly, only a fool puts all their eggs in one basket, they should have already been using other means to promote their business and it's their own fault for procrastinating and waiting until tik tok gets banned to do so.
@@acrr0447 This. People are treating TikTok like it's a basic necessity to live from. The same goes for UA-camrs that have Patreon, Twitch, etc. I doubt most people only have ONE source to rely from, and if they do, they are doomed to fail. Reality is a b****.
I am not interested in "small businesses" that are individual users dodging taxes and working for the Chinese Intelligence Services.
Never thought my Gamer News Guy would also be giving me congressional updates.... One less video I'll have to watch later, WIN.
Pretty much my take on it. It's a step down a very dark road, and for no worse then what the other companies are already doing. The biggest point made is that the US gov does not have their fingers in the back door like with Meta, Google, X, ect.
It's *ANOTHER step. Don't forget the PATRIOT Act, STELLARWIND, the abuse of the Espionage act to destroy the lives of whistleblowers, and the censorship that CISA, the CIA, and the FBI etc. have been doing on social media for the past few years.
I've never used or wanted to use tiktok and idrc about it cuz I'm not American BUT I still feel bad for the decent tiktok users that loved the app or made money from content on there and I hope they find a nice replacement or something similar.
ig reels or yt shorts will flood with all the ex-tiktokers just wait
To be fair tik tok as a brand wont die, china will cash in for billions and bail. One of the us tech giants, facebook, twitter, google, microsoft will buy and take over operations. In other words it will be zuckerberg spying on you instead of the ccp
I hope they get a job and government need to ban everything and remove freedom
Same thing.
I highly doubt it'll actually go bye bye. Too much money in the wings. I think they'll figure out a way to keep it here
watch as the ban doesn’t go through
The way these congressmen and women had such determination to protect its citizens, needs to be shared in the way we handle gun control, and other domestic issues such as healthcare and the housing crisis. This bill shows they CAN work in tandem to get shit done, but just dont.
The government that derails trains of toxic waste, had open sterilization programs for poor children up until the 1980s, which bails out corporations that commit crimes on the public, and which is one of only two governments that allow the pharmaceutical industry to run commercial advertisements... yeah these people REALLY want to protect the citizens haha.
Can you do a video on ms dropping wsa on windows. It was quietly announced by ms a month ago in a support document and theres been very little coverage on it on youtube
This is about being able to control the narrative. We should all be worried about this.
Banning CCP spyware has nothing to do with controlling narratives.
Narrative about what? They’re using TikTok as a scapegoat to gain control over the websites we can access. Whatever you’ve been hearing, this is way worse than that.
@@groundwater9120 Passing a bill that allows the government to ban media of foreign origin(or suspected foreign origin) doesn't give them the ability to control the dissemination of information? You sure about that buddy?
China controls the narrative on TikTok. What is being shown on Chinese TikTok is way different from US TikTok.
@@sakaraist That bill doesn't create a framework to allow the government to ban foreign spyware. They're already allowed to and they always have been.
Regardless, in the completely impossible scenario that *tiktok* becomes a valuable source of literally anything other than brain rot, you will still be able to download it because the CCP is 100% going to sell the NA version of it.
As much as I hate tiktok, this is the most authoritarian thing ever
Did you forget about 2020 somehow... 😂 This is very far from the most authoritarian thing the USA has done in recent times. My gosh. 😂 Yeah, forcing a Chinese company to sell an app is totally less authoritarian than forcing people to stay in their homes for months at a time... Good gosh.
Nahh W
That app is a cancer to society
I'd say a US judge saying "the 2a doesn't exist in my courtroom" tops it.
Seeing how China has basically 1/3rd of the US population under their grip ready to receive what ever slop they decide to feed in to it, I don't see this as a bad thing. Think about next elections... your tiktok could "suddenly" start pushing certain type of content which promotes a certain candidate or political beliefs and no one has any control over it except chinese puppet companies.
they dont care about the app, its just a middle finger to China
I really do love that Mummy Returns hairdo that Mutahar is rocking
The craziest part of this video to me is 9:12 where Muta says he isn’t a Canadian. This whole time I thought he was
America : Hey we don't like you having that, sell it to us or we're going ban you in our country.
TikTok : I'll see you in court.
America: "not only are you not a American business and has no constitutional protections but you literally banned in your own country because of it being harmful"
TikTok being banned in China basically gives them a fat L even if they did have constitutional protections. Idk what they think a lawsuit will do
It's official, the red scare is back BB!
TikTok introduced brainrot unto the world... so this is a win.
"I might not be a Canadian"
I've been bamboozled!
mutahar is turning to clickbait, one of the things i never thought i'd see.
its not even banned yet..
they have to sell the company off or get banned. the CEO says hes not selling so if he is telling the truth that means it will be banned.
rare muta L
@@TiocfaidhArLa34 You are missing some context still. The company will sue them and go to court to remove the "potential ban". A "potential ban" is not the same thing as "being banned". This is just simple semantics that many seem to not understand in this comment section.
This could be the start of something even bigger tic tok being banned could just be the start.
Yup hopefully they start banning all of the Chinese apps, kind of like China does to ours.
irony that aipac is a foreign entity that saps more money than tiktok ever could
Just imagine your device will become unusable when you modify it outside of the sellers wishes...
Or there's an update, and you need to click/tap "agree" before you can use (and to see what the changes are), otherwise it gets bricked - already happened with a brand of TV.
Elon Musk would go crazy if this was Twitter being banned
NO cause That is defunkterid
Yes 'Merican is a form of Englihhshh
There is a lot of brainrot on Tiktok, but I'm curious how this will affect people who basically built their businesses on the site.
I mean, if you are dumb enough to build a brand and not expand it outside of the original hub, that is on you.
@@AgentOrange88785 I don't spot a lie!
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They're probably gonna be forced to migrate...
@@AgentOrange88785Maybe they tried but not getting any viewership elsewhere.