Jim Halpert: The Unchanging Character
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2019
- Jim is one of my favorite characters from The Office. But when you really get into it, he changes the least as a character out of pretty much anyone. Let's take this opportunity to dive into Jim Halpert's character arc...or lack of character arc.
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The greatest character arc is Jim's hair
Wilo Polis I cried during that arc
The day he became “Big haircut”
God I hated his first hairstyle
Wilo Polis Thank You!
I kinda like his old hair. For some reason.
Stop talking about Jim that way. I AM MANAGER
Dwight Schrute Haulin’ cube!
CREED BRATTON IS MANAGER!
WHOS READY TO WORK?!
There’s a new sheriff in this office, and his name is me.
RYAN STARTED THE FIRE
That’s what he said
One of the most interesting things about Jim to me is one of character flaws - Jim cannot talk his way out of a situation. When confronted in an awkward situation, like seeing Karen in “Branch Wars” or the whole Charles Minor episodes, Jim shows he totally fails when trying to use his words in awkward situations. This is a really cool dynamic for the “straight man” character, especially for the office. It allows the normal person to still be able to join the cringe humor.
yet, he stands up to ryan before ryan goes to jail, and it also shows that it is a flaw
Or when he struggles to tell the office about who is getting a raise and who isn't.
or when roy sees him flirting with pam
Yoo I never thought about this and I've seen The Office like literally 100x! 😂 Good observation there!! 🔥🙌
These are all just mistakes, he’s still one of the best people in the office,
Stanley has a mistress
Dwight has done many unspeakable things one example is drugging Stanley
Michael is super offensive
Ryan is awful and a criminal
Kelly mood swings ruin most of her relationships
Andy turns out to be kindle a douche
And don’t get me started on Angela
What about when he got the courage to do a job in Philadelphia??? I feel that was definitely a character arc since They often brought up how he couldn’t bring himself to find a job he was more passionate about.
That was a lateral move: same company, same position, same pranks. Just out of view of the woman he loved and couldn't be with.
Lindsay Jackson I think grace was referring to later in the series when Jim joins his friends to start a new company
@@MillyLou Pretty sure Athlead, a sports marketing company, isnt Dunder Mifflin, a paper company.
I think that was Jim trying to change, but he ultimately chose to go back to where he started. Then in the last episode Pam sells the house and all, even then I think it's Pam making that decision for Jim. Jim's motivated by Pam, he's a good husband and puts his wife first.
@@MillyLou no you're thinking of Connecticut, this is the one where he's already married to Pam
Jerry from Parks and Rec is a good example. He doesn't actually change at all, we just learn more and more about him as the show goes on.
Jerry's got a hot wife, a big house, cute daughters and a lovely family. He's good
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its because jim is the person that connects with the audience. He's in on the joke, if that were to change too much he would loose that connection
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Oh thanks to say it he s the one with his stare no need word he said all
And as you said i do and example one of bilions when he prfect inpersonate dwigth spending 11 dollars he really made people smile he s the glue he cause with even little actions hilarious or serious reaction
“To be fair, Jim, James... Jimothy.
Jimothy, To be fair Jimothy... that sounds weird,
Are you okay with being called Jim?”
Ah yes, a beautiful haiku.
"I am"
You sure? That whole thing with him working at Philly and being away from Pam because he needed to be at Philly, and then realizing that work isn't more important than family. That definitely seemed like a character arc
@Hanna Rose Nah, Jim started neglecting Pam and trying to dictate her life by getting her to move without her ever saying she wants to. He becomes more stubborn and his relationships with everyone suffer, including Daryl when he moves in with Jim
There was also the time where he took over as co-manager and wasn't at all the good guy we're used to. That was an interesting change for him.
@@zombieapocolipse69 Jim's not an asshole
@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 don't think they said he was, although the language used seems to imply they aren't opposed to the idea, whether or not they meant it that way.
I agree that he's not, but you sorta just threw accusations without any consideration, easy way to start a petty internet fight.
@@zombieapocolipse69 Jim didn't neglect her he tried to go make more money and pam freaked the fuck out cause Jim put in all their saving to start the company and had to actually work their occasionally. The show even acknowledges how Pam is wrong by her agreeing that she was wrong in the end and Jim never tried to force Pam to move.
Excuse me, you're going to forget Jim's BIGGEST character arc? He put on the Popeye costume! That's life-changing, man!
I am not a fan of Jim at all, but that was definitely a stand up moment from the guy who thought he was above everyone (basically Ryan with competence and without the psychotic streak) and willing to do something for Pam that put him outside of his comfort zone.
Also remember that time Jim comforted Dwight when he was going through his breakup with Angela?? That was pretty sweet and I think it was a big step for Jim since he usually makes Dwight feel upset
well jim always did kinda care for Dwight, remember when Dwight got a concussion? it was jim who ultimately took him to the hospital, he even knew what dwights middle name was when Michael scott didnt even know
He didn’t really make him feel upset, more like making him question things or do something stupid
Season 1 is the introduction to Pam and Jim
Season 2 is Jim having to deal with Pam and Roy
Season 3 is Pam trying to deal with Jim and Karen
Season 4 is Jim and Pam dating
Season 5 is Jim and Pam engaged
Season 6 is Jim and Pam married and having a baby
Season 8&9: Jim’s and Pam’s Relationship is struggling, but they clearly still love each other
Season 7: ...
Some of these are not character elements, but plot elements. Events can occur and things can change in a person's life without their character changing. Personally, I also think Jim had more of a character arc than this video suggests, but some of your examples don't really function as relevant counterarguments.
Nathan the Minarchist it was struggling in season 9 but then it was resolved after he left athlead and then came back
One of the merits of a static character is they serve as the “baseline” for everyone else. It can make changes to other characters more visible by highlighting how they’ve evolved in relationship to the character who hasn’t.
Actually Jim learns to be more ambitious and takes initiative, all of which he learns from his friend Dwight. I mean Jim goes from having no passion in life or imterest in his career, losing hope, only to go ahead and becoming a more whole person by starting a company with his mates, taking risks instead of being passive and uninspired
Jimothy will never change.
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He does take a huge leap by investing in Athlead. After so much complaining about Dunder Mifflin, he finally does something about it.
yeah and he works under dwight even if its to be with his wife which is a big shift in his character too
He's more dynamic than you think. His growth throughout the whole series can be seen when comparing his first talking head to his last
I mean he does have a lot of character growth it just isn't necessarily a change in persona. honestly at the age their characters were portrayed it's not that common for a person to change who they are fundamentally.
Dwights change from over the top wanna be badass nerd to actual badass is a good example of a bit of an unearned and left field character growth.
Pams decision to be more of a protagonist in her own life was much more organic.
but half of the characters on the show don't change either. Angela, Oscar, Kevin, Kelly. They don't really change except for when they decide to change what their character is supposed to be.
Jim, like most people in real life, isn't someone who changes and grows or matures but rather shifts slightly through experience. He was someone who didn't feel much like fighting for what he wanted because he thought it wouldn't change much. like his Job or getting pam. it's only after he tries pursuing to actually become more important in his line of work that he realizes if he pushed that energy into committing to Pam for one more shot does he get his moment.
The rest of the series is how he grows with her, how he decides that he finally wants something. How his inner goal is to be the best man that he thinks Pam deserves by being this charming guy..
Then how he wants something more than just a marriage with a boring small town sales job. How he has to decide if he wants to risk what he's built over the last 5 years is worth endangering.
Growth doesn't mean change it means getting wiser sometimes.
other people also pointed out how Jim has real character flaws that even resemble michael. He is sometimes put under pressure and doesn't want to be the bad guy when it comes to hard decisions. it's what keeps him from becoming manager or moving ahead. He sucks at making the hard calls because he can't handle people being mad at him all that well.
If you asked me, I’d say that Jim is the main character of the show. From episode one to the finale.
him and pam as a duo kinda are but yeah
Season 1 its michael
Season 2-7 its jim, pam and michael with dwight and andy being the right hand men.
Season 8-9 its dwight and jim
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Jim doesn’t change too often, but he makes important decisions that feel organic and aren’t always selfish.
Jim and Andy are maybe the most realistic characters, with Michael being only a slight exaggeration.
I liked the video and would probably enjoy more vids like this.
What about Oscar? I would say that is the most realistically competent person in the office.
Jacob Froese yeah, you got me there.
Although I feel they were just a little... idk, awkward, when handling his sexuality.
Like, I really disliked the ONE gay character being a home wrecker.
Justin Helms ah man gays can have flaws now that’s homophobic
xxplvb he said he dislikes the way they handled the characters sexuality. Not that he can’t have flaws, but the way he was portrayed as a gay man wasn’t handled exactly the best. Unless he elaborates, I can’t say why he thinks this way nor would I try to.
Jared Wignall you’re pretty on point.
The only homosexual is a home-wrecker.
I don’t like that because he’s the only character like that.
I don’t think they intended it that way, but it comes across poorly.
The best character trait of Jim is he is the only character who looks strait at the camera in camera interviews everyone else looks to the side. He also is the man character of the show and the character we perceive the show through
Jim tries to warn Dwight at first about the sabre store and Dwight just makes fun of him non stop and cuts him off before he can warn him. So he just leaves.
Then goes back, so it wasn't like he didn't care prior to Pam telling him to go back. Dwight was a prick. Can't leave out that part in the episode.
I’d say Jim’s character arc is work ethic and caring about his job. You can see this as in earlier seasons he repeatedly states he doesn’t care about his job then later you see this change first when he goes after the promotion at the end of season three and then when he pursues a promotion later on and the episode where he goes for the hard sell on the golf course and eventually when he leaves his old career behind to pursue something he’s passionate about at the end of the show.
Jim does have a arc it's a simple traditional arc and actually a sad arc , he's a salesman in a mediocre company, that wants a girl (Pam) he gets Pam he ends up having kids he buys a home and he eventually leaves his hometown for a potential better opportunity , that is most average peoples live , people like Dwight aren't that common I mean how many people do y'all know that have land that's large with a large house and with a mangers job and owner of a building complex and owner of a bed and breakfast and with a car ¿?
If he owns a bed and breakfast he would defi setup own a car are you slow
thats why it works...dwight and jim are two sides of the same coin....you can relate to both of them...in the end thats the show's biggest takeaway...
I’d say Jim never really needed to change. His relationship with Pam. His relationship is his biggest character arc. I like it that wAy
Not sure about this analysis. Jim as a character does have an arc that starts in season 1. You mentioned Jim's hair changing throughout the series. That's true. Not only that, but he slowly dresses more formally as the series progresses. This is symbolic of Jim's growth of a character. I think you should take another look at this character.
Every character in the show has basically the same character traits by the end of the show.. what changes is their perspectives and priorities. this goes for everyone, Jim included. To say Jim somehow changes less than Dwight or Pam is just a lie.
the show is about 4 characters who at the start all want something better than what they currenty have..pam wants a husband a good non degrading boring simple job a normal life to puuue her pasions ...jim wants something more then his boring job he wants a woman who is unattainable and he wants a better boss and deskmate and motivation to work harder a reason to try...dwight wants everything he wants to move up hes tired of feeling under appreciated after trying his best to appeal to the boss who disrespects him as he cares for the company he works for ..and michael wants friends he wants family he wants happiness
I always thought of Jim as the character that keeps the viewer grounded in reality. Like when the office is just in chaos or following along with Michael or Dwight's hijinks he's always reacted how a real person might. Like no matter what is happening Jim reminds us "yes this is really happening"
I really liked the video and most of the points, but i feel like youre missing an important part about jim. Hes an introvert. One that has a comedic social shell. But also a dude who isnt comfortable confronting people. When jim makes a move hes thought about it for awhile and sures himself up, not really sharing much of the details with others. Just results. So i think you can find charactwr growth in his relationship with pam. Not only does he continue to make big life decisions without pam. But they literally have to go to counseling. So he learns how to be more assertive, then he learns how to be a little less assertive with his actions and actually learns to talk with pam. Imo jim has one of my favorite character arcs. The average joe that gets the girl and the great job. All because he did what he loved and learned how to love while he did. (Id love to debate this more in the comments with whoever!)
If i was going to sum everything i just said up itd be "jim is an introvert with a desire to have a real relationship and awesome career and had to learn how to break down his walls to get both."
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It's really nice to see you changing up your style of vids. Keep up the good work!
I’m a big office fan. To like an unhealthy amount. But Jim changes a lot. He is very shy about his relationship with Pam at the start, and also doesn’t see himself going anywhere besides The Paper Business, but by Season 3 and 4 he becomes much more outgoing and confronts Pam and then asks her out later, eventually he also developed a massive love for Sports and starts and starts his sports business, loving it, more than a Pam, but eventually chooses what is right and giving up everything for a Pam, which is a massive change. Then he becomes friends with Dwight which at the beginning he considered Dwight annoying. Of course he does continuously do something’s like pranks and loving Pam, that does not make him a static character as he has many development stages from Season 3-4 and from Season 6-9.
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Jim doesn’t change because his goals & environment either don’t require it or don’t allow him to do so.
He has two goals throughout this series:
1) date/marry Pam
2) give his work life some meaning
He accomplishes both of these goals & eventually expands on them. He passes up on the job in NYC to attempt to date Pam & is constantly regarded as an exceptional employee at DM, even if the co-manager stint doesn’t really work; because it’s not who he is & the office really won’t let him because they are used to Michael. He & Pam eventually have a house & two kids, which is a natural by-product of a relationship.
It’s shortsighted to say that his character doesn’t “grow” or develop. Realizing who you are & realizing what isn’t working is growth as well. It doesn’t have to be someone pulling a complete 180 on who you are.
Pam changes because she has to. On her podcast, Jenna Fisher notes that Pam wants Jim to save her from Roy, but he can’t; she has to save herself, which she ultimately does.
There is growth in his professional career too. He becomes far more ambitious by the end of the series than than the Jim we see in the first few seasons
There’s not really much for him to change he’s a good character he never had an issue besides trying to steal Pam
Make one about Dwight.
Cool video, you should make more of these.
He went from “ I have no future here” to having a wife and kids
I don't know if I'd say he doesn't change, he definitely grows, and jokes aside, the hair reflects that. At the start of the show, he is clearly a slacker who does not really care about his job and only does it because it's the gig he has and he's got nothing better (also Pam). He is unmotivated and dispassionate in his professional life. It is also shown in his costuming: he wears baggy loose fitting clothes. As the show goes on, he starts taking his job more seriously, and he starts succeeding, even becoming one of the top salesmen, being considered for a corporate promotion, and becoming the Co-Manager of the branch. The Jim we see in the beginning of the show would not fit that description. His physical appearance changes as well: he combs his hair, wears better fitted shirts, and wears a jacket or a full suit. Finally, the show ends with him leaving the company to become a successful entrepreneur and start a thriving new business. He's still the straight man, and he's always been a good guy with no major flaws to change, but he just simply grows up. He matures and transitions from an aimless young man to a father and successful businessman. To say "he's a prankster at the beginning and a prankster at the end, therefore he doesn't change" is kind of a surface-level assessment of his story through the show
With the Assistant to the assistant prank, Dwight was in on it and it was more a prank on the rest of the office
I love Jim the way he is, sometimes we just need a character like him :)
great video, keep up the good work!
how does this channel and video not have more views?
Jim’s lack of growth is even showed when he lives with Darryl. He was a lazy and messy roommate. He’s like a teen. Pam even says he’s like that at home. That’s some static right there lol
Knew this video would be great as soon as you referred to him as Jimothy
He is already perfect he doesn’t need to change
Big thumbs up for detailed caracter analysis
The unsettling music when showing the RELATIONSHIPS title feels familiar for some reason 3:05
Jim is like Captain America in the MCU... In that his character and values are established early on and he doesn't change but the people around him change and the reason he is a compelling character is how he reacts to this change with little compromise to his character. Just an all round dope person 👌🏽
Jim apparently doesn’t change HAVE YOU SEEN HIS HAIR
I'm really surprised you didnt even mentioned how Jim was from the beginning built up as and very intentionally made out to be the character that the viewer can realte to, he fills a specific role and does it quite perfecetly, he's our way of seeing nto The Office, our way of relating to it
I think this is what makes Jim’s character really good too. Because he doesn’t Change like most characters, it makes him the most relatable character and is the most normal in the office and there for making him a passage way for the audience
You don’t need to change perfection
I would argue that Jim becomes more respectful of Dwight (and their joint enemies to friends character arc is important)
He becomes more ambitious and self driven as he realizes he doesn’t want to be just some random guy at the office and goes out to pursue his dreams
And his whole arc with Pam must have had at least some effect on his character
I have to admit, Jim is my favorite character. I love his chaotic neutral personality, and his chemistry with Pam, and still hold a pretty strong crush on John Krasinski.
Edited to add: in watching this and contemplating why I love Jim so much, I think it's because he is so outgoing yet introverted, and unapologetically himself. And I wish I could be more unapologetically myself.
I think the word you're looking for is ambivert. :)
He shows some traits of an introverted as well as an extroverted person. He's more nuanced that some might think.
He isn't a fan of social interaction as he tends to avoid it unless it's with someone he actually sees as a close friend (or maybe Dwight lol), is mainly awkward and barely ever initiates a conversation himself, yet he's shown to have good social skills when he's sure of himself and when he wants to keep the others entertained. That's my take on him, at least.
People generally overlook his character when it comes to how his mind works mainly because we're supposed to see him as the normal, static character with no extreme ups or downs.
As a gal in her 20s who seems to have a grasp of things in her life, but not quite yet lmao, I like him too and find his character quite relatable throughout the whole show.
His goofiness and use of sarcasm also makes me think of Chandler Bing, how he also was stuck in a job he didn't really enjoy in which he also was kinda pranky (proof in a bunch of scenes in which we see him in the workplace) in order to distract himself and others from the boring routine of their work. :)
Well, you might have wanted to talk about their rough patch during season 9. The tension between them was displayed for several episodes, a tension that's enough to make Pam cry or make Jim yell over a recording of Cece (dunno if I wrote that correct).
Very high quality video
At least I changed my hair.
That intro is made from the juice of the fruit of the tree of knowledge.
I can't get enough.
Why are the transitions so eerie?
Awesome vid man
I would say Jim becomes more determined and motivated to work hard
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Thank you! I'm shocked "The Office" fans aren't marching in the Disney World streets demanding this. 😂
It took three seasons for Jim and Pam to get together, yes it happens in season 4 but they start in between season 3 & 4
Being mature doesnt have to mean no pranking. Pranking is fun and theres no real reason to stop if it's not harmful
It's a lot easier to picture yourself in a static character then one that constantly changes
It’s 3am and I’m bored but this music between parts is scary
Jim's work ethic did change in some weird ways due to the Sabre commission cap, Charles Miner, trying to buy a house, finding his passion at Athlead, and having kids with Pam. Toward the beginning of the series who made a joking comment that to impress your manager you do a mediocre job half-halfheartedly. Later on in the series, to afford his life with Pam, he literally blocks a potential clients car to close a sale. I don't think he would have done that without the monetary motivation from his new lifestyle with Pam. I think that his work ethic should be worth mentioning, because it was definitely his biggest change.
Bro wtf your intro such a vibe
I'd love you to do an video like this on Charlie
Always felt like the reason why Jim never really changes is because I always viewed Jim as the audiences character. He’s the most relatable and the least cartoonish. Though Dwights, and Michaels etc. are in the real world we don’t seem them at every turn in our local stores. Most are like Jim. Hence why he gives us his little look into the camera. We watch the show laughing and saying wtf to all the shenanigans and he looks at us to confirm we’re on the same page and that we see what he sees. That’s what I always thought.
Jimothy Halpert. Thank you! lol I love that part! lol
0:13 the highest rated episode is the stress relief two parter. That makes sense.
In 'Stress Relief'
Cold Open is the best
All characters is working
Too many legendary scenes
2 wholesome moments (Stanley's Laugh,Pam tells Jim what make his father divorced with her mom)
Jim was a bored, go-with-the-flow slacker at the beginning of the show. He turns into a hardworking motivated person at the end but still keeps the charm he had at the beginning. This video is dead wrong
What's that transition music from? It's incredibly familiar
You completely forgot about athlead when jim seperated himself from his family to persue a dream of his
4:47 Well well well Jimothy. How the turntables
aye man what's the beat you got inbetween segments of this vid lmao
This is what always happens when I rewatch The Office I start it and get mad at Pam and Jim not being together then when Michael leaves I'm sad and when the show ends I have nothing to do and watch it again it's a viscious cicle
I just came from the Jimothy video and that cracked me up🤣
You forgot to mention that Jim COMPLETELY CHANGED RACE for a day!!!!!
Hmm not really, he's actually always been asian. You probably just had the realisation later in the series.
But hey, grats to you for not seeing race! :)))
Jim not needing to change while Pam did for them to get together makes sense. Jim was always positive that he wanted to be with Pam. Pam is the one who was uncertain what to do.
The only issues I had with his character happened in the last seasons where Jim and Pam suddenly had stupid drama out of nowhere, even though we've been made to think that they're so honest and understand each other on a spiritual level, but suddenly they (the writers) tried to make it seem like they'd honestly divorce or something...
0:15 Damn I never knew how well Stress Relief did in views
It aired after a super bowl I think
@@10KProductions Oh that makes sense, a fitting episode to have after the super bowl
They have Jim not change to show that people have changed
So he’s a static character. You coulda just said that
what kind of cinema sins reference was the spoilers (duh)
I'd say he doesn't change much because when he did with the athlead stuff it almost destroyed his relationship with Pam and when he went back to his I'm happy where I am mode everything went back to being great for him.
I originally thought Jim is a guy who can handle anything, but he stumbles as a manager (for a brief time when he was Scranton branch's regional manager), but thrives as a entrepreneur and a front-man for his own company... I think Ryan (when he was in his Sean Parker mode) says it best "take a day off from the whole "Jim shtick" and to try caring about something for once". We can see the same dynamic in Darryl, he has this one big idea and Jo promotes him, what does he do? he slacks off, Andy even calls him out for that, but once again, when he is in a job he loves (schmoozing with sport stars around the country), he comes alive and becomes successful
Is it ok that he didn’t change? IS IT? IS IT!?!
I think that a character trying to change and deciding he doesn't need to or its not for him IS a character arc. Also, I think Pam and Jim make a great couple: for many reasons, but one relevant to this video is how they improve each other as people. Pam grows more confident and assertive because of Jim, and Jim does things like save Dwight's job for example because of Pam. Even if its because of another character, it can still be considered growth.
I think it comes down to the Office having fairly realistic depictions of people in general (outlandish character traits and situations aside). Jim is one of the most "real" characters, and in real life people CAN improve, but usually don't change a great deal even when they do.
So true everyone changes in the series even Michael changes 😂 I find that funny
We do see a subtle change. And it's done well. Yes he pranks Dwight and hates his job for the most part, he respects Dwight by the end and actually likes him by the end. He cares about his job and works really hard and becomes one of the best by the end. It's subtle... But good. Plus he isn't perfect. When bad things happen to him they happen hard.
Sorry. Made the comment before you mentioned the Dwight friendship.
He does have a character arc. He goes from normal person making fun of the weird people at the office (mostly Dwight), to understanding and respecting those people.
I want to fully agree with that but in the later season I forgot which season. Jim wants to move to Philly to get a better job
I think that is some character growth
But that’s just my opinion.
Me and the office share the same birthday but I am a year older
I would argue that Jim does change I’m S9 when he’s given the opportunity to work at a job that he’s actually passionate about. I feel he stayed in Dunder mifflin for so long because of Pam.
0:14 holy sshit whats that massive spike
My least favorite part of Jim is how the show very clearly set him up to become the manager, but once Micheal leaves the entire arc is thrown away