Canon Eos M - LETS TALK
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- Canon Eos M - LETS TALK
Well, it's been quite a few years since I started playing with ML and I haven't looked back. This is a re-cap of why I still use eos-m and will continue to do so in 2022.
car mount - • Canon EOS-M Car Crash ...
35mm c-mount - a.aliexpress.com/_msCF0EO
Sigma wide angle - please check specs before buying.
The one I'm using is x0.5 and the thread is 37mm to fit on the c-mount lens.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sigma-Wide...
#canon #eosm #talk #raw #magiclantern - Навчання та стиль
Best tutorial hands down I've seen to date. Zeek's is more nuanced and has more detailed, but if one just wants to get on with a general solution's I'd recommend following yours step by step!
Thank you brother, really appreciate that. Yes I really like to keep it simple... 😁
Algorithm is bullshit. I literally been studying the UA-camr “can-do!”cam-do space I been installing hacked firmware since magic lantern on 50d & 600d and hacks on to Panasonic gh1 - yet never seen a single vid of yours!!
you are a diamond, sir. Keep
Pushing it ! Cause your vids are all killer no filler!
That's mad...I've always thought the algorithm was against me... especially because I don't even see half the comments or they get removed for no reason.
I have to check the UA-cam studio app on a regular basis just to make sure I see all comments.
Thanks for stopping by and commenting. Seems like you're well educated on ml.
I would go as far to argue that 1080 with a high bit rate and better codec is better than any 4K with a lower dynamic range. Magic Lantern has really pushed these cameras to have access to features I never would have imagined, but they are honestly amazing. Keep up the amazing work!
I definitely agree with you! I used to be one of the "sharpness" but after looking at higher end cams I realised the sharpness isn't the main denominator for good image.
Dynamic range and a clean, smooth image is a lot more pleasing.
Thank you for watching and commenting 👌🏾
We all make mistakes at first but you'll get there. The m isn't perfect so make sure you spend time in learning how to work with magic lantern and you'll be happy to make the switch.
Yeah but I think magic lantern pushes 48mbps where are even my Olympus would push 100mbps and the higher the bit rate the higher the quality of the video
I just love your attitude to film making man. You're always inspiring. Have a wonderful Christmas and NY. I look forward to more inspiration from you in 2022. All the best.
Ahhh thank you, thats very kind. All the best to you in 2022 👍🏾👍🏾
You’re so humble, what are you talking about man, your colours are out of this world 🐐🐐🐐 greatest of all time
😁😁 thank you bro, I've definitely learned a lot but I have a long journey.
Yes, THANKS!
Very helpful mlv app instructions!
Been struggling 🤪
No probs brother, I thought I may have went a bit too fast but I just meant that I don't obsess over it.
It's mainly just the core fixes, Alexa profile and then export. Just like it simple 😁
@@Altcine yeah but that's good there is nothing else to confuse other than the important things. I don't want to do anything extra on mlv app. I just want the alexa log, stripes etc to be fixed on mlv and then export the prores to my main editing software and do colors and tricks there.
This video was good to explain just that. 👌
@@hungrycamperfilms awesome...and yes that's the way...nice and simple + minimal artefacts.
Great attitude, taking away mental barrier of entry into film making, don't need the most expensive kit that you have to worry about damaging.
Hey man, that's right...we can use whatever gets the job done 😁
great eos m video. I have to agree with all the points you mentioned. Btw. I love the shot from back of a car (great creative angle!) as well as your lighting is good!., Davinci resolve tutorial was very usefull! have to try this grading tool!
Thank you and thanks again for commenting 😁
I love the car shots too, one of favourites for this cam.
Yeah have a mess around with colourspace transform but there lots of combinations you can try.
Great stuff mate
Great video, Colin!!! Inspiring
Thank you brother 🙌🏾
Dope Info!! Would have never thought to look at a C-mount lense
Thank you 😁 c-mount can be soft but instead of using ND I just step down a lot in daytime for sharper images.
Real skill and talent over equipment ! Winner !
Yes sir 💯
Great Vid, love your film maker philosophy.
Thank you kindly
Great video as usual brother. Keep it up.
Thank you my bro 🙌🏾🙌🏾
We just bought CanonEosM. And it's really amazing camera 🔥 Love your videos man!! Keep it up!
Awesome 😁 you're going to learn lots from this camera!
Thank you for watching and commenting
You deserve way more than 3k views... Awesome video!
Thank you 😁🙌🏾🙌🏾
Thanks for the he video. I never knew about the Eos m
Thanks for watching and commenting 😁 yeah it's a great tool and great Facebook community too.
I have the same camera same color and I do have the same exact keyboard. Nice vid.
👌🏾👌🏾 you have good taste. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment bro.
You’re a visionary.
🙌🏾🙌🏾💥
Thanks!
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Nice tips bro , thanks 🙏
No probs, thanks for watching and commenting 🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@Altcine Nuff respect
All of these comments Colin!!! You are growing my friend! Don't forget me when you become famous bro 👍😃
Looool everyone is more interested in the camera than me 🤣
This is Amazing 👍👍👍 so many things you can do with this camera 😲🤯
Yes it's soooo handy it's unbelievable! Yes you could possibly use a GoPro or something but the eos-m just gives so many options it's invaluable.
@@Altcine absolutely 🙂 go pro for example can be used for underwater scenes and colour corrected after to Match the eos m and make an awesome sequence 🙂 I mean it's so universal that you can make a Hollywood style short film with just eos m and some cheap stuff 🙂 🙂
@@cinemascopebylashapanchulidze yes I agree! The m is very capable 👌🏾
Good video and break down. Only portion I don't understand is why did you transform it to BM film instead of Arri? It would probably saved you some of the tinkering with the colors. I liked your tip about the glow I never use it but might incorporate it into my nodes now.
Thank you. Yes I agree with you and constantly learning new ways to make grading easier. I've also been spending more time with lighting and settings so I can use luts.
Grading from scratch really slows me down so I'm embracing luts now and it's really helpful to avoid post production fatigue.
Hi, Cole! Nice work and insight! Thanks for sharing your workflow, it helps me alot. By the way, can you direct me with your video where you teach how to deal with aliasing in 1080p mode? I'm very interested about that! Thanks!
Hey Kenneth, thank you for watching.
I go over it very briefly in the coModo video but show an example. ua-cam.com/video/_jj5YcLTP-A/v-deo.html
I use a Tiffen pro mist to soften the image ever so slightly. You can use any softening filter really but better quality ones won't degrade your image.
Nowadays I use c-mount lenses and because they're a little softer than kit lenses, sigma etc...I find the aliasing very minimal.
I was considering that camera but instead I got a cinematic Len’s for my mirrors camera, sure it only shots in 1080p but I will upgrade it in the future
I see. I think if it works for you then you made the right decision.
the greatest of all time!!!!
The most amazing 🙌🏾🙌🏾
I think it's quite useful to correct white balance in the app if you are exporting Apple ProRes 4444 since the temperature is baked into this setting.
If not correct at time of shooting then definitely 👍🏾👍🏾
@@Altcine Yes, that's right. But, what I have found is that the biggest benefits of shooting raw is to save time in fixing white balance in a run and gun situation. It can save time and help capture the moment. Later, we can fiddle with white balance while in the relaxed environs of our edit desk!
hi bro i just bought this camera eoas m and i update it with latest fireware but i cant find raw video there ...any heelp ? thank you .
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Thank you. Impressive review. Awesome camera. The problem is where to buy it? Please suggest.
Thank you, much appreciated. I do admit they they are becoming a scarce but they can be found on eBay, local selling sites or the Facebook group
facebook.com/groups/375018026655820/?ref=share
Hey do you mind linking the videos of reducing or eliminating aliasing and moire here or in the description. Cant seem to pinpoint those in your videos. I wanna keep using 1080p but man the ailiasing and that pinkblue moire is pretty brutal sometimes.
Edit: oh you actually show it in this video. Jumped the gun!
Hey, yeah it's not 100% eliminated but just less of it.
It's a bummer that it's there as I really like 1080 but that the limitations we have to deal with.
I'm going to force myself into 2.8k and see if I can work with that insane crop in liveview 🤣
Hi thanks for the video! I have a question about shooting raw with EOS M. I assume playback of raw files is impossible, so what are your playback solutions? Record to an external device like a Atamos? Imo this problem would be the biggest issue. No way to confirm that you got focus, sound, or the best take right?
Can the camera record simultaneously to a compressed .mov?
Need to review your entire video later…. Am seriously wondering if we’ll wait for the Magic Lantern Team to finish their software for the M6. Question- doesn’t the EOS M take a optional viewfinder? And is that viewfinder compatible with other cameras in the Canon M line-up?
It would be so good if it came to M6 or M50 but it looks like it all stopped 😞
Those viewfinders aren't compatible with the original m unfortunately. I remember this discussion on the group a long time ago.
Ha, I see you opened with a remix of the Matrix theme song👍
Yeah I love that song. First heard it in SuckerPunch 😁
I probably need a monitor or better laptop to see my grading. I tried to color grade with a file exported from mlv app to ndxhr into da vinci and tried to implement your settings but it looks weird. I'm new at grading so. Thanks a lot though!
Maybe try messing around a bit more. Once you've done the Blackmagic inputs you can change the outputs to arri and arri log c.
It will be a bit flatter and may give you a better starting point. Also after the conversion you could try the arri lut on the next node.
I think it's just trial and error but maybe the dnxhr responds differently to ProRes....maybe.
What's Up Cole? Pleased to meet ya. Top video man. Thanks for the workflow suggest. I got the free version of DaVinci so I'll hit that with some footage I just did practicing a 2.5k hdmi on the ML. Gotta couple of questions..Like you jumped into DaVinci and made nodes and what not ..I guess I gotta study up the program and nodes an Shit but do you have someone on UA-cam that has some good stuff for beginners I can follow and learn from? Plus.. at 10.00 mins you say you gotta a clip that's 1080p that's been upscaled to 4K...What did you mean on that? Sorry for jumping in. Have an awesome evening. All the best Buddy. 👍👍👍
Hey bro, nice to meet you 😁 yeah Davinci is all about what works best for you but there are some things that are crucial to learn like colour space, a colour managed timeline and the difference between primary & log wheels.
Waqas Qazi is a bit sensational but his tutorials have helped me the most.
Don't follow his "how to achieve a LOOK" videos...look at his beginner tutorials and amateur Vs pro.
You may have to watch them more than once but it will stick if you actually put it to practice.
Upscale to 4k is simply choosing 3840 X 2160 in mlv app settings. Tbh it won't make much difference in image but you'll get a better final render from resolve and an easier time mixing it with other 4k footage.
@IMCE OK my man thanks for getting back. 👍
Nice one. Which drone are you hooking it up to at 4:09?
Hi, that was a Dji phantom 2. I do have a video where I actually go more in-depth.
The next mission is to get the eos-m on a cine lifter drone. I'm trying to make this happen now 👍🏾👍🏾
Can you post links of exact name to the lens and adapter you are talking about please? Thank you
Just updated the description 👍🏾👍🏾
You guys are running me in Circles… I bought an M2 thinking it would do 2.5K, then I bought an M because I found out M2 only shoots 1080p. Now You finally tell us you only shoot 1080p. Well now I got an A rig and a B rig. I got to start a Channel witch one Shoots better 1080p… M2 or M1 ??? 🤩🤩🤩
Shoutout to eos zeek,
The father of all of us ✨😍🙏
Hi, thanks for all the EOS M content. I'm looking for your videos on how to deal with the aliasing and artifacting that occurs in the 1080p mode. I'm having the hardest time, usually just end up avoiding that mode. You mention you have some tricks to make 1080p look good. Can you share? when should I search for? (You have a lot of videos, I tried watching them all...)
Hi, thanks for watching. I'm actually shooting a video as we speak which I cover a few issues of filming in 1080. Because I dropped tips in random videos I thought it would be a good idea to put all the info into one.
It'll be out Sunday I think.
@@Altcine That's great! I'm also interested in how you get such a stable image without a gimbal. I feel like quality gimbals have gotten very cheap, but most EOS M users on youtube don't bother with them.
So far my favorite shooting mode is 5k Anamorphic frtp, but is does take some post tweaking.
Looking forward to your next vid!
I do use a gimbal sometimes or a heavy set-up. I also bought some cheap STM lenses with IS. Yeah that vid is coming real soon as I've just finished up a ton of work
saya berharap eos 80D ada magic lentern nya untuk focus picking
I discovered MC 2 weeks ago through you fantastic video - the look is really great. But than a strange thing occurred - ML crashed and after the crash I could restart ML but the crop disappeared, so I have fully image what I can see an the screen ( 1080, 16:9) Unfortunately it`s now impossible to reinstall ML because the firmware update icon disappeared. Do you know about this phenomenon?
Must be a glitch in the Matrix 😅
1080 16:9 is full view so maybe you were in x3 crop? Unless I misunderstood your comment.
Thanks for commenting 🙌🏾🙌🏾
Congratulations!! Can you tell me how long you can continuos record on the EOS M with the ML firmware in 2,5K
Thank you 😁 it's funny but I never use 2.5k....Ive always stuck to 1080 since I had a bad experience with 4k.
I've now started playing with other modes as it's been requested and just shot some slo-mo stuff which I'm putting in a new video soon but im going to put some real effort into higher resolution modes over the next few weeks.
everyone talks about the M model, but what about the M10 for example? From the specs it's like the older M Model but yeah, is there a difference?
Only the original m & somewhat the m2 support magic lantern. If you don't need raw the the m10 is definitely better.
Interesting to hear your thoughts and approaches and I wonder about options with sports cameras/go pros that are so good these days and with stabilisation that looks amazing - would those be also useful for mounting on cars or on body poles etc as so small and light or is there something about those that isnt so great for the types of uses you put that EOS M to?
It's a very good question. It mainly comes down to bitrates & data.
The GoPro etc look fantastic in good light, you can get filters too but I really do like the creamy clean look I get from the canon Eos-M and I can manipulate the footage into anything I want.
You can do a lot with a GoPro etc and I probably would use one but the eos-m is mainly about cost, versatility and bitrates.
If I smashed one up I wouldn't mind at all 😁
@@Altcine awesome, appreciate the feedback and thoughts - I have my trusty budget canon 700d came ouot same time as EOS M so very similar in spec - I just installed magic lantern again - it still seems buggy with glitches on screen and i tried the raw video but it stopped after 5 frames and the footage looked jittery - is there a time limit on the RAW video like 5 seconds
@@johnleighdesigns no probs. Yeah I think ml isn't so great on some camera's. The eos-m is by far the most developed and always changing. I think after that comes the 5d2 & 5d3.
I've never used a 700d but try to reduce the resolution just a little bit, change bitrate and if possible use 2.35:1 rather than 16:9.
A little trial and error and you may be able to get something that will allow you to get at least a few mins.
@@Altcine ah cool thanks for those tips Ill take it for a spin - can u get minutes out of the EOSM as I might see if can grab one as a film camera leaving my 700d for my portrait and fashion photoshoots
@@johnleighdesigns it's so cheap now it's worth getting one. Some people are trying to overprice them so don't pay anymore than £110.
You can get unlimited record time in quite a few modes on Eos-M so no problems there 👌🏾
Hi Colin, I’ve just started with the eos m, but I my old Del laptop isn’t up to grading although I have purchased Davinci studio, I’m looking to get an M1 Mac mini 16gig, do you think it will be up to the task with MLV and davinci 4k etc? What are the spec’s of your hackintosh if I were to go down that route? Cheers Nik
Hi Nik, welcome to the team 🙌🏾.
After all the hype about M1 I decided to buy the cheapest model I could find to test so I got a brand new M1 air base model for £600 and it actually blew my mind.
Yes it does struggle here and there if I get heavy in fusion but it was even faster than my Ryzen 7 3700x hackintosh. Rendering on mlv app which is now optimised for M1 has great performance.
I've since sold the hackintosh and now edit solely on the air but I will be buying a Mac mini too.
I'm just holding out for one with a new processor.
I usually edit 4k footage on a 1080 timeline then switch to 4k. Yes tender times could be better but it's fast enough on this base model. Definitely get 16gb if you need to buy now 👌🏾
Ps I'm currently editing a 1hr movie on this MacBook air.
hello bro, I'm from Kazakhstan) please tell me the color profile settings in the camera - what do you use? Neutral? Standard? What values? Or do you add C-log or Cinestyle to the camera?
Hi bro, greetings from London. I have mine set to neutral but because I convert to arri log c or CDNG it dosen't really matter which profile you use as those settings don't affect the final video.
Just choose whichever one you like to use when capturing footage.
@@Altcine Thank you very much!!!for the answer!!!I'm starting to shoot with Canon eos m! What bitrate are you setting to 10bit-12? Or is it not necessary to install it?
What version of ML do you use? I have no choise of video bitdepth like in 5:43
You should have, it's in every version of ML. Are you sure RAW recording is turned on?
Hello, really well done. I am quite sad because I bought a really new nice eos M , but when I use standard HD1080 ML setting, I have horrible artifacts red and green where are cutting hedge of images. All other settings as anamorphic or 2k 3k 4k are fine but unisable for other reason. It is normal or it is only my problem. Thanks
Thank you. Can you explain "cutting hedge of images"?
There can be artefacts in images the worst offenders can be fixed but some can't but there's ways around it.
@@Altcine Thanks for answer. With that term I wanted to explain that artifacts are visible on the edges of objects in the image, especially straight lines or chrome objects that are on cars, or tree branches. The images are unusable. This only happens at hd1080p. The only setting I use, you know why. My Canon eos m is really new with 0 shots counter at eos info. Thanks for help. Maybe you need to see a frame to really understand.
Bless my bruv... How long is the recording time?.
Blessings bro. Recording time is unlimited in certain modes (1080 or 5k anamorphic) but some modes are crippled by the lack of camera processing power.
@@Altcine Thanks for the reply bro. Very helpful....
Hi where can I buy that lens in the uk please excellent video my the way
Thank you 😁. Amazon have it for around £25.
I'm giving the funds for 2 people to try this in my next eos-m video but it'll only cover the AliExpress price of £16.
I've got a video made with this lens here ua-cam.com/video/bZAq2BqoTFI/v-deo.html
Hi, what is the crop on 1080 Raw? Is it 1.6, which is the same you will get without using Magic Lantern? Also, please recommend a good adapter for Canon FD to EOS M and also a good speed booster for the same. Thank you .
Hey, yes no crop in 1080.
Best normal FD adapter I've used is k&f. It has a solid build & fits like a glove.
Speedbooster is going to be Roxsen but the non branded ones actually look good too. I honestly believe the non-branded version IS the same as Roxsen.
@@Altcine Thank you. Got a mint condition EOS M but ML seems to be giving me trouble. Let's see how it goes.
@@DineshBhadwal start fresh from Danne repository....don't use anyone else's downloads.
@@Altcine Yes, i am using Danne's June 2021 build, which is the latest. As you said in one of your videos, I think the trick is to understand ML's Menus and see what works best.
what drone is that? does it not stress the drone's motor when carrying the M?
That is a phantom 2, I made a video about it. The m build was very light and the drone can hover without dropping so there's no problems on short flights.
Saying that...it's definitely not a replacement for a proper setup though.
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing. Can you point me to your video on how to deal with aliasing and moire?
Thank you brother 🙌🏾 it's in the komodo video very brief but there's a good side by side example ua-cam.com/video/_jj5YcLTP-A/v-deo.html
Nowadays I use the c-mount lens because they're a bit softer and I find I don't really need to use any filters. This video here was with a 25mm c-mount lens
ua-cam.com/video/bZAq2BqoTFI/v-deo.html
@@Altcine Thanks again! I have a similar lens myself, but I switched to a "better" one a while ago. But with the sharper lens I got quite a lot of footage ruined because of aliasing and moire. Do you know any tips on how to fix it in post?
@@realad88 I see, yeah it's a nightmare! The only way is going to be masking (power windows) but that could be a headache depending on the scene.
I'd suggest some sort of softening filter but get a high quality one, you want to retain the lens quality.
@@Altcine I will look into it. BTW, what would be a good "next step" camera in your opinion? BPCC4K? Or maybe the Olympus camera you recommended recently? I really like the look of EOS M footage but I need something more reliable.
@@realad88 It depends on what you want to do?
The Olympus is only 8bit so providing you do EVERYTHING right when shooting you can get a very pleasing image but the p4k would probably be the natural successor though.
Hi I really hope you dont mind an extra question I just cant find an answer to the issue of canon screen shuts off when i plug the usb to composite to allow me to monitor audio on headphones?
thanks so much appreciated in advance
It's cool. I would assume that would happen because If I remember rightly the screen shuts off when you connect it to pc using canon imaging SW.
@@Altcine very kind of you - and i think i remembered why i previously deleted magic lantern as audio monitoring was my main motivation but i rediscovered i do not get an audio menu on my 700d like everyone shows on youtube i get choice of MLV sound on/off but none of the headphone monitor, gain, boost, headphone volume or other 10 x settings i see shown online :(
@@johnleighdesigns so you've got missing menu's on ml which other people have?
@@Altcine yeah i have an audio tab with one lone item on it "MLV SOUND on/off" - but see on ML comparison chart 700d does not have audio controls but neither does EOS M according to that - and yet I see a guy with a video showing his 700d with audio controls - im close to throwing the towel in !
@@johnleighdesigns can I see the video?
What is the system requirements for working with
For editing? I'm using the base model M1 MacBook air
why do you shoot in 1080p and not 2.8k?
There are a couple resolutions which are very reliable but I've just found that 1080 is still king when it comes to reliability.
I feel the perceived level of detail is not worth it for me as most of my stuff is planned for some sort of production and not random videos.
Which ML build version are you using?
Gosh, that's a good question...it's been a while since I've updated...last year. But unless you're having problems I'd always say go with the latest build.
@@Altcine nah. The latest build send to be missing a lot of features. I tried a version that Zeek used but it was too unstable for me.
I just got this and installed magic lantern can’t even record.
Come over to the Facebook group, everything you need to know is there 👍🏾👍🏾
facebook.com/groups/375018026655820/?ref=share
Using a canon camera to get a logc profile into an apple codec graded in a blackmagic program... You sir are asking for problems.
😅😅 it's not a problem, I've been doing this for years... recently used it on a project for SHOWstudio.com and it came out well.
There are some drawbacks...like you can loose some dynamic range but nothing 99% of viewers will notice.
10:05 he writes so fast!!!
🤣🤣 you should see him play computer games
@@Altcine
🤣 like we were playing Street Fighter speed level 10
@@stephanes. Looool that was ridiculous but sooo much fun lol
How to buy
You can buy from eBay or local private sale
its so buggey camera if you do the modding the firm ware
🤣🤣 just shoot 1080 and leave the settings alone and it's fine.
@@Altcine ya thats the only way its not all bugey as hell i tryed that one software an its bug city i would be better if you could over right the firmware to get rid of the factory firm ware
@@MyIronman8 possibly but then I can imagine the uproar when people start bricking their camera's.
Great stuff mate
Thank you
Great stuff mate
Thank you 🙌🏾🙌🏾
Great stuff mate
Thank you 🙌🏾🙌🏾