UPDATE: The LUMIX S1 also has Open Gate, in the form of (for larger-than-4K), there's "6K" 5952*3968 (3:2) 24p as well as a "5.4K" 5376*3584 (3:2) 30p modes! Both are 4:2:0. What do you think; are you intrigued to start shooting in Open Gate? With the GH6 firmware 2.0 released on July 5 2022, you can even do 4:3 5.8K RAW with the Ninja V+!
Well, sort of. I don't recall what I said in the video but here are the two cameras - the GH6 shoots 5760x4320 in what's called "5.8K" mode, which is an accurate name when looking at the source width (5760 = 5.8K). The GH5II shoots 4992x3744 in "6K-A" mode. I don't recall now if the "6K" is a diagonal measurement (probably, since the diagonal is 6240) or if it's a measurement of what it'll be once it's stretched (even a 1.33x anamorphic stretch will result in over 6,600 pixels wide), so that name is more a marketing term. Since the mode is no longer meant to be used only for anamorphic, the name changed to reflect a more realistic use (and what we're used to seeing… "4K" = 4096 wide, not diagonal) pulse.ly/usz7chbns3
This video is an excellent demonstration of a seriously underrated feature. Honestly Panasonic should be shouting this from the rooftops - especially since shooting dual aspect is such a big deal now. You could shoot an entire feature like a documentary and distribute it as dual aspect.
I don't agree I think the fact that it's only available at 30p makes it a real weak point... Make it 100p (no crop, but lower resolution) and you'll have a winner.
Now, I’m a stills shooter who doesn’t really use video… but I’m blown away by the frame guide options. I want that so much on every camera. Common and custom aspect ratios, with a brightline or black bar options. Fantastic.
Your videos are always amazing, thanks so much for sharing with us. This video make me feel proud of getting the GH6, your videos always shows the full potential.
Thank you Joseph for this really, really well executed tutorial, I believe you invested many hours in producing this video and it turned out awesome. And yes, I haven't taught about this option to film like that, we have few GH5 and I will try it out.
This feature was actually available (on accident) in the GH4 in one of the later firmware updates. people liked it so much they kept it in the GH5 and GH6
Dude, this is the reason I bought TWO G9s. Their "6K mode" is open gate 4992x3744 (same as GH5). It's fixed at 30fps 4:2:0 10bit 150Mbps HEVC. You have to configure the "6K photo mode" to start-stop record to make it work as a video mode (don't have the dial turned to video mode or it will do regular 16:9). There is a 10minute limit to record time. You get audio as well. Not bad for a camera with a street value of less than $1K. The G9 seems to be the 13th floor of hybrid cameras - how did this not get a mention? Thats why i still call it the most underrated budget semi-pro camera there is even though it's getting a bit long in the tooth now. Not bad for a 2018 stills camera. The only thing I personally feel lacking is a higher bitrate and built in log which feels expensive to me as I have to buy it as an addon even though it's not the full thing. I wish Panasonic would just give it away. Maybe you could have a word to them since G9 is probably EoL soon.
You're not wrong - I chose to include just the dedicated Anamorphic modes that don't have any of the 6K Photo limitations, but you absolutely can get the most of it from that mode. Yeah the G9 is a great price point for doing this!
4 by 3 is what the old TV system was. Mobile phones can be rotated 90' resulting in a much nicer longer width and lower height frame. 16 by 9 corresponds to the Golden Ratio. 3 by 2 is a commonly used ratio.
New folding phones are all very close to 4:3 too and the ipads are also. right now there are tens of millions of new near 4:3 aspect ratio screens perfect for viewing 4:3 content
Just finished the video. That smart reframe is amazing. I still prefer horizontal video but between resolve and the open gate sensor that would take a lot of the pain points out of shooting for different aspect ratios. Do you ever find yourself having a tendency to shoot tighter than you need to just out of habit? You probably have better instincts for shooting/cropping with your photography background.
Hey buddy! Thanks for watching! The open gate and smart reframe certainly does make things easier. You still want to shoot with the final aspect ratios in mind for sure. As to your question; I do my final framing in camera. It’s really rare that I tighten up a shot in post, and even more rare that I wish I’d shot wider. But yeah, I’ve been looking through a lens for 40 years, so that probably has something to do with it!
Certain apps allow you to shoot in open gate on the iPhone. Quality is amazing compared to the normal mode in low light though no stabilization(can't handhold it) and limited to 30fps
I think the iPhone, even when using filmic pro, can only shot at around 50 to 70 Mbps. I’ve seen the claims of 150 Mbps being reached but have never been able to get near that.
This is genius. Just last week I was struggling with a project that needed a 9x16 version as well and I found so much being cropped out. Gonna have to try shooting 4:3 on my GH5!
If I’m not mistaken, doesn’t the G9 shoot open gate in 6k photo mode? You can choose 4:3 or 3:4, but it’s at 5.1k higher than the GH5. Am I missing something here? Great video BTW☺️
This is oddly satisfying to watch and I don’t own a LUMIX camera. Great feature, content and editing! Your camera and lens selection is amazing. Also, thank you for reminding me to register for re-certification as a Davinci Resolve Trainer - with the 18 release and all.
Well done video. I'm a still guy. I also avoid Instagram like the plague, but I get that it is what the customer wants. I was going to pass on this video, but I fell in. I appreciate seeing a whole new perspective on things, and yes, over my head, but I'll be back. Thanks for your efforts.
I use it in my gx85 to simulate Vista Vision and it's great. The timelapse mode on this camera shoots open gate but it's not label as anything anamorphic it just allows the use of the full sensor.
Those of us that shoot anamorphic have been very keen on Panasonic’s open gate modes for quite some time, for obvious reasons! Full Frame Open Gate anamorphic on the S1H is insane.
@gothamindembaum you got it. You can compress vertically or you can expand horizontally, it really just depends on what you want to achieve. If you’re shooting LUMIX open gate then you’re starting with 6K so can go either way without losing anything; if you’re shooting 4K 16:9 then you’re definitely losing pixels by compressing horizontally. And yes the softer look can definitely be desirable, although there’s a difference between low resolution softness vs film softness. This is why the S1H is still so popular - it’s the only full frame LUMIX without a low pass filter on the sensor, which opens it up to moire but softens the overall image in a way that most filmmakers prefer.
Same for the Panasonic LX100 I used to have. Had a dedicated switch on the lens to switch between aspect ratio's on the fly. This also supported 4:3 and worked great! The greatest feature is Aspect Bracketing where you can take a single picture and it takes 4 different pictures with all 4 aspect ratios in the camera (3:2, 16:9, 4:3, 1:1).
Thank you for sharing your GH6 Open Gate workflow. It is incredibly informative. Your straight forward presentation is paced well and easy to follow. I plan to use open gate acquisition quite extensively because of the flexibility it allows me in making HD deliverables while maintaining a master that can be repurposed and future proofed to create up to a 5K deliverable to streaming services. Like you I also enjoy shooting with my set of Meike Cine style prime lenses and my set of Surui anamorphic primes. The flexibility the GH6 gives content creators of intellectual properties for meeting the demands of a worldwide dynamic changing marketplace is unmatched at it’s price point.
Suddenly got excited again over my old Panasonic LX100. A camera from 2014 with a 4/3 sensor that shoots 4K that would let you select sensor crops on the ring. 3:2, 16:9, 1:1 and 4:3. But can only force a reframed 16:9 video out of it. What you really need is a custom aspect ration grid you can apply to the reference monitor/viewfinder at all your aspect ratios. That's the killer feature to make best use of this crop. Been using it on full TV shoots for a few years and never looked back.
I have four cameras that are capable of shooting open gate 5.7K; however, I don’t use them to shoot 9:16. I shoot live theatre, concerts, and dance shows with multiple cameras. Only one of these cameras has a live operator. The open gate lets me reframe the shot in post or turn one shot into two by having a different crop.
Let's all suggest this at FiLMiC Pro to be added in a future release. The iPhone sensor also has an aspect ratio of 4:3 so this would give us 4032 x 3024 pixels to work with. MAVIS App already has it.
I don't have the dosh for the set of meke, love to of course. it'd be cool if you could lemme know which you used the most and why you chose the one's you did. a good single recommendation to start with would be cool too. cheers and thanks.
Well, thanks. I have s5 so i shoot at 3:2 6k photo mode that shoots at a resolution that is 5k x 3k ish. I adjust shutter speed to 100 or less to get a video blurr. But i render in the same aspect ratio as i am bored of 16x9 , plus the fact thst i have to loose so much area. It works for me.
Could one distribute a project shot in open gate to a film festival, or is it best to use Cinema 4K 4 2 2 10bit? I love the editing options. Having different crops might add to the storytelling.
Perhaps an additional update? The OG S5 (yes not the S5 II/IIX) has "open gate" video recording at 30P as well, but is hidden in the menu. Change camera mode to "M", change selected burst mode (I use II) to use 6K Photo, change mode to S/S (shutter start/stop). Limited to 15 minutes per recording, but you can select 3:2 (5183x3456) and 4:3 (4992x3744) aspect ratios and even set Photo Style to V-Log. Includes audio! My understanding is that is also 200Mbps bit rate recording. I've used it successfully for far better Anamorphic than the official "Anamorphic 4:3" mode on the OG S5. If you could, suggest that now the S5 II/IIX have received firmware upgrades that Panasonic move that 6K mode to the video menu on the OG S5 as a friendly gesture.
Although I still don't understand what this does on my gh5, but all I want is good low light performance. U seem like u know alot with all those lenses and cameras so could u tell me like the best low light lens?
Mama Mia. I like it. I’ll be starting a new job soon and will have to shoot this method see how it treats me. Love the fact you’re utilizing Davinci. Adobe realllly needs to feel the pressure.
I’m using a rather small smallhd focus field monitor and the 4:3 crop makes it harder to check focus, especially at longer focal lengths. Most of our edits remain in 16:9, the extra room for vertical edits is a nice to have but for I’d prefer it like shooting log whilst previewing with a correction lut; the most available data recorded to work with whilst previewing something looking a bit closer to the end result.
Thank you for this demo, but I use FCPX and I cannot follow along. When creating a 4k timeline , mismatched resolutions on Da Vinci does not show up under FCP. What am I doing wrong ? Thank you
I haven’t used FCP in a while but I am quite sure you can make a custom timeline at any size. If you’re talking about the vertical resolution then there should be presets for that.
so quick question, on the S5, which has that anamorphic mode, is that not the same thing? I don't think that's technically "open gate" but it is a 4:3 aspect ratio, but i don't know if it maps to what the GH6/S1H is doing.
Same idea, but note that the resolution is lower. It's a 4:3 ratio, but it's only 3328x2496. It's called 4K-A because once it's stretched out for anamorphic delivery, it'll be wider than 4K. Depending on your stretch, if it's 1.33x that's 1.33x3328 = 4426. And if you use a 2x squeeze anamorphic, that's 6656 wide. But if you're not stretching (i.e. using it as this video is suggesting), then you only have 3.3k width at 3328, so under the 3840 of UHD. That's why the only cameras and modes I am showing as "open gate" for the purpose of dual format delivery are the ones that shoot over 4K natively.
Joseph, you looks as mind person, could you clarify me, why panasonic packed extended v-gamut colorspace (v-log) into rec709 colorspace? You can check it in metadata. After that operation, v-log become typical profile as Standart/Natural etc with very specific curve, but rec709 has theoretical 9.97 stops of lights, that mean no matter what you choose: v-log, cined2/Standart (with contrast/saturation -5), you will get this 10 stops maximum. P.S. even sony/canon can choose rec709/bt2020 colorspace for their log profiles.
hey there… I think there’s some confusion here, and I’m not totally sure I understand everything you’re saying, but it’s like this - first of all, Rec709 vs Rec2020 or Rec2100 are just flags. It’s metadata, and means nothing to the actual file. You can flip that flag in the NLE, and since most people are still grading in SDR, that’s probably why the default is Rec709. But depending on your NLE, this is likely going to be flipped automatically as you start working in SDR or HDR color space. I’ve done HDR grading in FCP, Resolve and Premiere, and each handled the files differently but ultimately for the same results. The file itself is 10-bit, and has all the dynamic range. There’s no 10-stop clamping because the source file has a Rec709 tag on it. If other cameras let you switch the flag internally, that’s nice, but ultimately useless. If you want a Rec2100 flag out of the camera, shoot in HLG and you’ll get it. And finally to make the point of why standards are important, the blackmagic HyperDecks at one point inadvertently set the flag of all recordings to Rec2020 which really screwed up SDR workflows, because the NLE didn’t know what to do with the Rec2020 flag in an SDR space. They fixed that almost immediately, but it shows the importance of standardizing on a Rec709 flag for Log footage.
I am curious what you think of Fuji xh2s open gate in 6k apsc sensor. That’s 3:2 and not the 4:3 on lumix. Is that a fair compromise for social media. Thanks.
Like I discussed in here, 3:2 is better than 16:9 but the 4:3 aspect ratio (closer to square) is better. More vertical overlap. In a perfect world the sensor would be 1:1 square, like a Hasselblad!
anyway you need to compose your shoot in the in the middle of the frame, i think if you think in compose in a classic 16:9 way even using open gate nos sure you will get nice results por 9:16 then
Not at all. Compose in 4:3 with room around your subject and place the subject wherever it makes sense for the shot, then crop accordingly for side or tall. Balanced negative space is everything.
Thank you for such videos. My question is regarding the highest quality you can squeeze out of the GH6. Without worrying about space and file size, what do you think is the best way to benefit and get the highest quality out of the sensor? My end goal would be 16:9 aspect ratio. 1st option I have is Prores 5.7k in 30fps 2nd opinion is Prores C4K 60 which gives you about 800mbps 3rd option is shooting in open gate 5.7K 30fps like you are encouraging and then squeeze it into 16:9 ration. Only thing with this is you can only shoot open gate in Mov or mp3, no options for open gate in prores internally. Also, knowing I only get 4.2.0 HQ in open gate vs 4.2.2 HQ without open gate. Which brings me to my question. Without worrying about codec, formats and file size, which one of the 3 different options do you think will give me the best video quality and best color? I shoot in Vlog and, I do not intend to do slow motions really. I am just looking for the best video color. What's your recommendation? Just want the best gh6 can give you recording internally. Thank you so much
@@photojoseph this leaves me with two good options(prores C4K at 60fps and prores 5.7K but at 30fps) I don't intend to slow down my videos. Which of the 2 options you think is better. One is just 4k but 60fps or 5.7K but 30fps. Thank you 😊
@@photojoseph they are actually both in Prores. On is just 4k with more frames 60fps. And the other is 5.7k but with less frames 30fps. But both are in prores. With 4k 60fps I have more frames every second which might mean better Images maybe? Or record 5.7K 30fps and compress it to 4k in post with hope it will get me a better image maybe? Sorry I'm asking alot 🙂
@@TrailAmbience ah, right. Look at it this way. Think about the words. XX mbps means megabit PER SECOND. 60 fps vs 30 fps is the same mbps. What does that tell you?
Thank, really love this feature on my GH5. Would just love to have more fps on the GH6, also can it do extended dynamic range while in this mode? Lastly would love to have a 4:3 sensor on the S1H mark Ii
Nice video, very informative,, thanks. Question, this concept applies to 4k to hd right? so for those with not too much HDD space, you can shot opengate 4k, then crop vertical 1080 HD. Most social media convert 8k, 6k, 4k to 1080HD anyway. Am i right? Wondering if you can do the same with videos from smartphones.
@@photojoseph i see it from the mobile content creator, shot everything opengate 4k then do the crops for vertical 1080HD. I believe iphone requires an app to shot 4:3 4k
Amazing feature and a very informative and excellently made video (my only regret is that I didn't see your video sooner). I have both GH6 and GH5II. I see you use a Desview R6 monitor, but you only touched that briefly. I can't find from their products if any of their models will show the 4:3 aspect ratio, or just the 16:9 crop. I'm looking for a monitor that will show the full frame of the open gate 4:3. Any thoughts/brands/experiences?
Any monitor should work. The camera is outputting video to match the capabilities of the monitor (HD or UHD) and will pillarbox the output so you’re getting a 4:3 image.
@@photojoseph Thanks. This was most helpful as this open a world of possibilities. Learning new things for my Panasonics everyday. Just got a Tilta Float arm, and your other SmallRig review was also very helpful. Monitor next. Thanks one more.
Sure thing. Proxy is smaller (usually half size, so quarter the likes), and compressed. It’s meant to be small, easy to share via cloud, easy to fit on a laptop. Usually H264 or H265/HEVC Optimized is the opposite. Typically rendering to ProRes, full resolution. These files are much bigger than the source, BUT are easy for your computer to handle. Computers can work lay back ProRes more easily than bug H264 files that come off most cameras.
Wait a minute!! I don´t know how de-squeezing works resolution wise, but what would be the total resolution for a desqueezed video in Anamorphic open gate mode? that means being able to capture quite a wide and tall frame!!
Actually even the G7 has this :)), just tried it. - put the camera in 4K more from the left dial and set the 4k PHOTO mode to S/S (in camera menu) Now, select manual mode on (not video mode.) and press the shutter ! 4:3 aspect ratio video! cool!
@@photojoseph it's a good useful little camera and it has easily upscalable footage using topaz labs it's not full frame but you can use the 3:2 it has an anamorphic mode the video quality is not the highest bit rate but using a modestly good lens gives Sharp yet not over sharpened footage and you can also use the hack to get a hundred megabits a second 1080p but thats still not great but it's better than it's native 24 megabits and it has an option for either 60 FPS or 24 FPS still not the best but with topaz Labs upscaling the footage to 4K it looks great and fits in mostly with all my other cameras and for the $50 you can pick it up for it's basically a throwaway camera
Open gate is one of the features that puts Panasonic ahead of all the other manufacturers. It's crazy cool that only Panasonic is giving consumers these video features.
Hi 😊 Thank you for this amazing video. Question: Do open gate files take up more data than 16:9 and if so do you have an estimated percentage of how much larger they might be? Open gate for non-anamorphic lens projects seems like a good option to allow for reframing up and down in post while maintaining 16:9. This could be especially valuable for gimbal shots if the camera unintentionally drifts too high or low for a take and a reframing adjustment is needed in post. Thank you sir. 👍
File size is determined by data rate, not pixel dimensions. 200mbit is 200mbit regardless if it’s 1080p, 4K or 6K. You can convert mbit per second (megabit per second) also written as mbps into megaBYTE per second, then x60 to get a per-minute estimate. Don’t forget to include audio but that’s minimal compared to video.
@@photojoseph Thank you for the reply. 😊 I didn’t know if 16:9 saved data by not recording the tops and bottoms of the sensor as opposed to open gate, but you have a good point in using the bit rate to look at file sizes. A person can look at the bit rate for each record setting (if they own a GH6) and make a storage decision from that perspective. For those of us who are considering a GH6 but don’t have one in our hands I suppose I was looking at it more from that perspective. Perhaps I can check the owners manual for the bit rates of 16:9 at 4K 4:2:2 10 bit and compare that bit rate to open gate at the same or closest similar resolution and calculate a percentage in file size difference from there. With a percentage difference in file size I can calculate a storage cost for shooting and storing open gate footage as opposed to 16:9 capture to assess if any difference in cost is a value proposition for my purposes. With the cost of high speed media for the GH6 it would be nice to be able to estimate the cost of data storage ownership before going down the GH6 path or going down the open gate path as opposed to 16:9. I don’t shoot for social media, only my own narrative work so open gate would just be a framing bonus (or safety) for me. Thank you for your insightful video and for your bitrate suggestion as a metric for choosing open gate or 16:9. All the best to you sir. 👍😊
So this is what GoPro has done since the beginning- actually they have more modes where they use the rest of the sensor creatively- a shame that other companies don‘t use more of these options
Hey there thanks for this video it is really insightful, appreciate it! I have a question as a GH5m2 owner. If I shoot open gate in 4k and crop in post am I losing quality as opposed to just shooting in 4k with the regular 16:9 aspect ratio? Does Panasonic do any enhancing when cropping in 16:9 that is missed when going open gate? Or am I just doing in post what the GH5m2 does for me when selecting a 16:9 aspect ratio. Thanks!
@@photojoseph While it might be interesting to have some framing abilities in post production. I personally go for most reliable setup. Typically thinks like 6k stress camera, battery and cards and I do live stuff so when it is gone it is gone, no second chance. And recording 6k or even 8k in 4:3 or 1:1 results in >1/3 of file size, card bandwidth and render time directly for the trash bin. Also cropping can result in strange effect due to distortion, lack of corner sharpness and vignetting, For what I do I see no advantage. I do cropping with my lenses not my computer. I even stopped recording 4k, because on my many distribution channels youtube and blueray the higher resolution or bandwidth cannot be noticed by the average audience. Especially if using natural or ambient light...
Understood, however I'd say that if the camera and cards couldn't handle recording at the stated size and bandwidth, then they wouldn't be able to. Panasonic is very conservative in its published capabilities. As long as you have a workflow that works for you, that's all that matters!
UPDATE: The LUMIX S1 also has Open Gate, in the form of (for larger-than-4K), there's "6K" 5952*3968 (3:2) 24p as well as a "5.4K" 5376*3584 (3:2) 30p modes! Both are 4:2:0.
What do you think; are you intrigued to start shooting in Open Gate? With the GH6 firmware 2.0 released on July 5 2022, you can even do 4:3 5.8K RAW with the Ninja V+!
Will the Ninja V+ work with Canon R5 using this 4:3 and later punch in to use 16x9 or 9x16?
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@PhotoJoseph So is the same on the S5? I it seen it has 4:3 anamorphic mode with a apsc crop.
Great video, as always! One correction: GH5 II shot anamorphic 6k, not 5k.
Well, sort of. I don't recall what I said in the video but here are the two cameras - the GH6 shoots 5760x4320 in what's called "5.8K" mode, which is an accurate name when looking at the source width (5760 = 5.8K). The GH5II shoots 4992x3744 in "6K-A" mode. I don't recall now if the "6K" is a diagonal measurement (probably, since the diagonal is 6240) or if it's a measurement of what it'll be once it's stretched (even a 1.33x anamorphic stretch will result in over 6,600 pixels wide), so that name is more a marketing term. Since the mode is no longer meant to be used only for anamorphic, the name changed to reflect a more realistic use (and what we're used to seeing… "4K" = 4096 wide, not diagonal) pulse.ly/usz7chbns3
This video is an excellent demonstration of a seriously underrated feature. Honestly Panasonic should be shouting this from the rooftops - especially since shooting dual aspect is such a big deal now. You could shoot an entire feature like a documentary and distribute it as dual aspect.
Truth! This video is their version of shouting it from the rooftops ;-)
I don't agree I think the fact that it's only available at 30p makes it a real weak point... Make it 100p (no crop, but lower resolution) and you'll have a winner.
Agree 100%
@@photojoseph heard loud and clear. Thank you
Glad you made this video dude, this is such an underrated feature! My GH6 is my go to camera when I know I need deliverables for social posts too.
Thanks man. It is a killer feature for sure!
True, I hope that this becomes a standard feature in all cameras
You're the man! I was so confused with the cropping of open gate footage. Thank you
Now, I’m a stills shooter who doesn’t really use video… but I’m blown away by the frame guide options. I want that so much on every camera. Common and custom aspect ratios, with a brightline or black bar options. Fantastic.
It’s definitely helpful in so many situations!
That's just clean! Got the gh6 in April (super dope camera). Never considered the reason to shoot open gate. This is a game changer brother!
Awesome, thanks! Yeah it’s definitely a cool feature
Your videos are always amazing, thanks so much for sharing with us. This video make me feel proud of getting the GH6, your videos always shows the full potential.
Thank you, I really appreciate that!
Thank you Joseph for this really, really well executed tutorial, I believe you invested many hours in producing this video and it turned out awesome. And yes, I haven't taught about this option to film like that, we have few GH5 and I will try it out.
thank you, I appreciate that!
So glad I meet you at CineGear, and learned about this!! 🙌🏾
Awesome man, great meeting you too - thanks for stopping by!!
Wow!!! I’m so blown away!
This was so worth the wait, the intro was amazing and I absolutely need to watch this again!
Wow thank you, I really appreciate that!!
Love this feature on my S5II. The 6K video coming off the full sensor looks incredible.
Yeah! Agreed!
You are such a great narrator. Thank you for the work you do creating this content you have just earned a subscriber!
I very much appreciate that! Welcome to the channel 😊
Incredible intro Joseph! By far the most convincing argument for open gate I’ve seen for the GH6.
I hope you’re well! Loved this video.
Hey Chadwick, thank you for watching and for the complement! This was really fun to put together, for sure.
This feature was actually available (on accident) in the GH4 in one of the later firmware updates. people liked it so much they kept it in the GH5 and GH6
What firmware for the gh4?
Version 2.7 on GH4. Bottom of page 6/7 on the camera settings.
Dude, this is the reason I bought TWO G9s. Their "6K mode" is open gate 4992x3744 (same as GH5). It's fixed at 30fps 4:2:0 10bit 150Mbps HEVC. You have to configure the "6K photo mode" to start-stop record to make it work as a video mode (don't have the dial turned to video mode or it will do regular 16:9). There is a 10minute limit to record time. You get audio as well. Not bad for a camera with a street value of less than $1K. The G9 seems to be the 13th floor of hybrid cameras - how did this not get a mention? Thats why i still call it the most underrated budget semi-pro camera there is even though it's getting a bit long in the tooth now. Not bad for a 2018 stills camera. The only thing I personally feel lacking is a higher bitrate and built in log which feels expensive to me as I have to buy it as an addon even though it's not the full thing. I wish Panasonic would just give it away. Maybe you could have a word to them since G9 is probably EoL soon.
You're not wrong - I chose to include just the dedicated Anamorphic modes that don't have any of the 6K Photo limitations, but you absolutely can get the most of it from that mode. Yeah the G9 is a great price point for doing this!
The gh4 was so far ahead of the game people are STILL surprised by how many amazing features it has.
4 by 3 is what the old TV system was. Mobile phones can be rotated 90' resulting in a much nicer longer width and lower height frame. 16 by 9 corresponds to the Golden Ratio. 3 by 2 is a commonly used ratio.
New folding phones are all very close to 4:3 too and the ipads are also. right now there are tens of millions of new near 4:3 aspect ratio screens perfect for viewing 4:3 content
thanks! awesome video. the S5 can shoot crop sensor open gate at 4k internally. I think it can do 5.9k externally.
One of my favorite videos. Love it. Thank you!
This will really help my work when I have to crop for vertical! Thank you!
Great to hear!
I'm just now seeing this. Fantastic video. You obviously put a lot of time into this one and it shows. Thank you.
Just finished the video. That smart reframe is amazing. I still prefer horizontal video but between resolve and the open gate sensor that would take a lot of the pain points out of shooting for different aspect ratios. Do you ever find yourself having a tendency to shoot tighter than you need to just out of habit? You probably have better instincts for shooting/cropping with your photography background.
Hey buddy! Thanks for watching! The open gate and smart reframe certainly does make things easier. You still want to shoot with the final aspect ratios in mind for sure. As to your question; I do my final framing in camera. It’s really rare that I tighten up a shot in post, and even more rare that I wish I’d shot wider. But yeah, I’ve been looking through a lens for 40 years, so that probably has something to do with it!
Certain apps allow you to shoot in open gate on the iPhone. Quality is amazing compared to the normal mode in low light though no stabilization(can't handhold it) and limited to 30fps
Oh wow, that makes perfect sense. Cool!
I think the iPhone, even when using filmic pro, can only shot at around 50 to 70 Mbps. I’ve seen the claims of 150 Mbps being reached but have never been able to get near that.
That probably depends on the phone. I only have the 12, but the 13 can do ProRes so maybe on that one you get the higher bitrate?
This is genius. Just last week I was struggling with a project that needed a 9x16 version as well and I found so much being cropped out. Gonna have to try shooting 4:3 on my GH5!
Awesome!!
The GH5, the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks for the download!
If I’m not mistaken, doesn’t the G9 shoot open gate in 6k photo mode? You can choose 4:3 or 3:4, but it’s at 5.1k higher than the GH5.
Am I missing something here?
Great video BTW☺️
Do you know any external monitors , that fit the size of the open gate?
This is oddly satisfying to watch and I don’t own a LUMIX camera. Great feature, content and editing! Your camera and lens selection is amazing. Also, thank you for reminding me to register for re-certification as a Davinci Resolve Trainer - with the 18 release and all.
Hey Rocky! Thanks for watching. And you should try a LUMIX! ☺️
Well done video. I'm a still guy. I also avoid Instagram like the plague, but I get that it is what the customer wants. I was going to pass on this video, but I fell in. I appreciate seeing a whole new perspective on things, and yes, over my head, but I'll be back. Thanks for your efforts.
This is one of the greatest features of the GH6 👍 Thanks for that informative video…
Thanks! I’ve got a brand new video expanding on this topic dropping in the next 24 hours… make sure you’re subbed!
@@photojoseph great, looking forward to it 👍
I use it in my gx85 to simulate Vista Vision and it's great. The timelapse mode on this camera shoots open gate but it's not label as anything anamorphic it just allows the use of the full sensor.
In the GX85, wow. So you're just shooting time lapse? But not full framerate… or am I missing something?
@@photojoseph yeah you can see some of the clips I used here ua-cam.com/video/Rvc2cGi-2fs/v-deo.html
This actually makes so much sense. I've always wanted my Sony cameras to record videos with the full 3:2 sensor size.
Time to upgrade to LUMIX!
Wish this was possible on the Lumix S series cameras! I’d love to shoot open gate on my S5.
Edit: it’s possible with APS-C mode but not in full-frame
really informative stuff good sir. Thank you
Those of us that shoot anamorphic have been very keen on Panasonic’s open gate modes for quite some time, for obvious reasons! Full Frame Open Gate anamorphic on the S1H is insane.
That is awesome to hear!
@gothamindembaum you got it. You can compress vertically or you can expand horizontally, it really just depends on what you want to achieve. If you’re shooting LUMIX open gate then you’re starting with 6K so can go either way without losing anything; if you’re shooting 4K 16:9 then you’re definitely losing pixels by compressing horizontally. And yes the softer look can definitely be desirable, although there’s a difference between low resolution softness vs film softness. This is why the S1H is still so popular - it’s the only full frame LUMIX without a low pass filter on the sensor, which opens it up to moire but softens the overall image in a way that most filmmakers prefer.
@@photojoseph the S1H very notably DOES have an OLPF.
LOL I got those backwards. It’s early here. Thanks for the correction.
Yeah it’s weird. Lumix has it all 😁
Same for the Panasonic LX100 I used to have. Had a dedicated switch on the lens to switch between aspect ratio's on the fly. This also supported 4:3 and worked great! The greatest feature is Aspect Bracketing where you can take a single picture and it takes 4 different pictures with all 4 aspect ratios in the camera (3:2, 16:9, 4:3, 1:1).
Thank you for sharing your GH6 Open Gate workflow. It is incredibly informative. Your straight forward presentation is paced well and easy to follow. I plan to use open gate acquisition quite extensively because of the flexibility it allows me in making HD deliverables while maintaining a master that can be repurposed and future proofed to create up to a 5K deliverable to streaming services. Like you I also enjoy shooting with my set of Meike Cine style prime lenses and my set of Surui anamorphic primes. The flexibility the GH6 gives content creators of intellectual properties for meeting the demands of a worldwide dynamic changing marketplace is unmatched at it’s price point.
thank you! Sounds like you definitely “get it”. It’s a powerful way to shoot for flexible delivery, for sure!
Suddenly got excited again over my old Panasonic LX100. A camera from 2014 with a 4/3 sensor that shoots 4K that would let you select sensor crops on the ring. 3:2, 16:9, 1:1 and 4:3. But can only force a reframed 16:9 video out of it.
What you really need is a custom aspect ration grid you can apply to the reference monitor/viewfinder at all your aspect ratios. That's the killer feature to make best use of this crop. Been using it on full TV shoots for a few years and never looked back.
The Panasonic S1 also supports open gate shooting in both 6k and anamorphic modes.
You're right… I missed those! For larger-than-4K, there's "6K" 5952*3968 (3:2) 24p as well as a "5.4K" 5376*3584 (3:2) 30p modes! Both are 4:2:0
I have four cameras that are capable of shooting open gate 5.7K; however, I don’t use them to shoot 9:16. I shoot live theatre, concerts, and dance shows with multiple cameras. Only one of these cameras has a live operator. The open gate lets me reframe the shot in post or turn one shot into two by having a different crop.
Awesome. Open Gate is so flexible!
Let's all suggest this at FiLMiC Pro to be added in a future release. The iPhone sensor also has an aspect ratio of 4:3 so this would give us 4032 x 3024 pixels to work with. MAVIS App already has it.
Great Video!! The auto reframe is really a great feature for open gate. Shoot in static and make a dynamic smooth camera move in post.
Yep!
Whoa, that smart reframe is out of this world, so cool!
So SO cool!!
Extremely helpful video. Just added a LUMIX S5ii to our Sony bodies. Can you do something showing workflow with both 3:2 and 16:9 files?
Could you possibly do a quick video of Proxy Files. Could you show the workflow from beginning to end, I'm new to that aspect, thank you, great stuff.
I actually am planning a workflow video on this, centered around the Blackmagic Cloud Store Mini, but that won’t be until September at the earliest.
I don't have the dosh for the set of meke, love to of course. it'd be cool if you could lemme know which you used the most and why you chose the one's you did. a good single recommendation to start with would be cool too. cheers and thanks.
Well, thanks. I have s5 so i shoot at 3:2 6k photo mode that shoots at a resolution that is 5k x 3k ish. I adjust shutter speed to 100 or less to get a video blurr.
But i render in the same aspect ratio as i am bored of 16x9 , plus the fact thst i have to loose so much area.
It works for me.
Could one distribute a project shot in open gate to a film festival, or is it best to use Cinema 4K 4 2 2 10bit? I love the editing options. Having different crops might add to the storytelling.
Does your nucleus nano motor make a rumbling noise with your Meike lenses? Mine does and I find it concerning. I have the same lens set.
If it’s not really tight, yes. I find you really need to ensure it’s pressed hard into the lens, and mounted really tightly on the cage/rod.
Excellent Breakdown🔥🔥🔥
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Dang they’re making the S5 look like a paper weight. @Panasonic can we get some updates?
Perhaps an additional update? The OG S5 (yes not the S5 II/IIX) has "open gate" video recording at 30P as well, but is hidden in the menu. Change camera mode to "M", change selected burst mode (I use II) to use 6K Photo, change mode to S/S (shutter start/stop). Limited to 15 minutes per recording, but you can select 3:2 (5183x3456) and 4:3 (4992x3744) aspect ratios and even set Photo Style to V-Log. Includes audio! My understanding is that is also 200Mbps bit rate recording. I've used it successfully for far better Anamorphic than the official "Anamorphic 4:3" mode on the OG S5. If you could, suggest that now the S5 II/IIX have received firmware upgrades that Panasonic move that 6K mode to the video menu on the OG S5 as a friendly gesture.
Lots of good information, going to try out the smart reframe 😁.
Have fun!
Everybody eat Rendang ❤
i think every camera should have that option honestly. it makes so much sense
That it does, although I’m happy with it showing up on LUMIX cameras mostly ☺️
@@photojoseph wait so its also possible to shoot open gate on sony? i thought lumix was the only one
Not on Sony. Some Fuji has it. One model of Z-cam I think had it.
This is a really well presented video. Great job.
You got me again, this really opened my eyes to consider renting a GH6. Thanks a million
Awesome!!
This is a fantastic video. Really well built and informative. Good Job man c:
Thank you!
Although I still don't understand what this does on my gh5, but all I want is good low light performance. U seem like u know alot with all those lenses and cameras so could u tell me like the best low light lens?
Mama Mia. I like it. I’ll be starting a new job soon and will have to shoot this method see how it treats me. Love the fact you’re utilizing Davinci. Adobe realllly needs to feel the pressure.
Haha awesome. I hope it works for you!
really great channel, beautiful video,.... which other camera have open gate,. or 4:3 aspect recording options ???
I absolutely love shooting open gate on my gh6, I just really wish Panasonic adds the option to output 16:9 over hdmi whilst recording open gate.
That’s interesting. What’s the use case?
(And actually; have you tried? Since you can set the hdmi output to 1080 or 3840 or auto, what happens?)
I’m using a rather small smallhd focus field monitor and the 4:3 crop makes it harder to check focus, especially at longer focal lengths. Most of our edits remain in 16:9, the extra room for vertical edits is a nice to have but for I’d prefer it like shooting log whilst previewing with a correction lut; the most available data recorded to work with whilst previewing something looking a bit closer to the end result.
Good explanation. Thanks. I hadn’t thought about it that way but makes perfect sense.
Right on! Opening gates, opening eyes 😂
Thank you for this demo, but I use FCPX and I cannot follow along. When creating a 4k timeline , mismatched resolutions on Da Vinci does not show up under FCP. What am I doing wrong ? Thank you
I haven’t used FCP in a while but I am quite sure you can make a custom timeline at any size. If you’re talking about the vertical resolution then there should be presets for that.
so quick question, on the S5, which has that anamorphic mode, is that not the same thing? I don't think that's technically "open gate" but it is a 4:3 aspect ratio, but i don't know if it maps to what the GH6/S1H is doing.
Same idea, but note that the resolution is lower. It's a 4:3 ratio, but it's only 3328x2496. It's called 4K-A because once it's stretched out for anamorphic delivery, it'll be wider than 4K. Depending on your stretch, if it's 1.33x that's 1.33x3328 = 4426. And if you use a 2x squeeze anamorphic, that's 6656 wide. But if you're not stretching (i.e. using it as this video is suggesting), then you only have 3.3k width at 3328, so under the 3840 of UHD. That's why the only cameras and modes I am showing as "open gate" for the purpose of dual format delivery are the ones that shoot over 4K natively.
@@photojoseph ahhh ok, understand. thank you for that!
You could also just shoot a bit wider on every other cam, and then choose your frame
I wonder what camera used in this vlog? It's focus hunting.
In what scene?
Yea, I want to see that workflow 👍
Nice!
Thank you Joseph, helps a lot!
Glad to hear it!
This was awesome and I learned something new...Thank you Joseph.
That’s what I love to hear!
Excellent video. Is this available on the G9?
I hope they can update at least 48p for the full sensor open gate.I think they can do it. It is just if Panasonic want to or not.
Joseph, you looks as mind person, could you clarify me, why panasonic packed extended v-gamut colorspace (v-log) into rec709 colorspace? You can check it in metadata. After that operation, v-log become typical profile as Standart/Natural etc with very specific curve, but rec709 has theoretical 9.97 stops of lights, that mean no matter what you choose: v-log, cined2/Standart (with contrast/saturation -5), you will get this 10 stops maximum. P.S. even sony/canon can choose rec709/bt2020 colorspace for their log profiles.
hey there… I think there’s some confusion here, and I’m not totally sure I understand everything you’re saying, but it’s like this - first of all, Rec709 vs Rec2020 or Rec2100 are just flags. It’s metadata, and means nothing to the actual file. You can flip that flag in the NLE, and since most people are still grading in SDR, that’s probably why the default is Rec709. But depending on your NLE, this is likely going to be flipped automatically as you start working in SDR or HDR color space. I’ve done HDR grading in FCP, Resolve and Premiere, and each handled the files differently but ultimately for the same results. The file itself is 10-bit, and has all the dynamic range. There’s no 10-stop clamping because the source file has a Rec709 tag on it. If other cameras let you switch the flag internally, that’s nice, but ultimately useless. If you want a Rec2100 flag out of the camera, shoot in HLG and you’ll get it. And finally to make the point of why standards are important, the blackmagic HyperDecks at one point inadvertently set the flag of all recordings to Rec2020 which really screwed up SDR workflows, because the NLE didn’t know what to do with the Rec2020 flag in an SDR space. They fixed that almost immediately, but it shows the importance of standardizing on a Rec709 flag for Log footage.
I am curious what you think of Fuji xh2s open gate in 6k apsc sensor. That’s 3:2 and not the 4:3 on lumix. Is that a fair compromise for social media. Thanks.
Like I discussed in here, 3:2 is better than 16:9 but the 4:3 aspect ratio (closer to square) is better. More vertical overlap. In a perfect world the sensor would be 1:1 square, like a Hasselblad!
anyway you need to compose your shoot in the in the middle of the frame, i think if you think in compose in a classic 16:9 way even using open gate nos sure you will get nice results por 9:16 then
Not at all. Compose in 4:3 with room around your subject and place the subject wherever it makes sense for the shot, then crop accordingly for side or tall. Balanced negative space is everything.
love this video master joseph. it shows your skills. 👌🏼
Thank you kindly
Thank you for such videos. My question is regarding the highest quality you can squeeze out of the GH6.
Without worrying about space and file size, what do you think is the best way to benefit and get the highest quality out of the sensor? My end goal would be 16:9 aspect ratio.
1st option I have is
Prores 5.7k in 30fps
2nd opinion is
Prores C4K 60 which gives you about 800mbps
3rd option is shooting in open gate 5.7K 30fps like you are encouraging and then squeeze it into 16:9 ration. Only thing with this is you can only shoot open gate in Mov or mp3, no options for open gate in prores internally. Also, knowing I only get 4.2.0 HQ in open gate vs 4.2.2 HQ without open gate.
Which brings me to my question. Without worrying about codec, formats and file size, which one of the 3 different options do you think will give me the best video quality and best color?
I shoot in Vlog and, I do not intend to do slow motions really. I am just looking for the best video color. What's your recommendation? Just want the best gh6 can give you recording internally.
Thank you so much
422 is best. Highest bitrate (so, ProRes), is best. Open gate is 420 so not as good as ProRes 422.
@@photojoseph this leaves me with two good options(prores C4K at 60fps and prores 5.7K but at 30fps) I don't intend to slow down my videos. Which of the 2 options you think is better. One is just 4k but 60fps or 5.7K but 30fps. Thank you 😊
@@TrailAmbience ProRes
@@photojoseph they are actually both in Prores. On is just 4k with more frames 60fps. And the other is 5.7k but with less frames 30fps. But both are in prores.
With 4k 60fps I have more frames every second which might mean better Images maybe?
Or record 5.7K 30fps and compress it to 4k in post with hope it will get me a better image maybe?
Sorry I'm asking alot 🙂
@@TrailAmbience ah, right. Look at it this way. Think about the words. XX mbps means megabit PER SECOND. 60 fps vs 30 fps is the same mbps. What does that tell you?
Thank, really love this feature on my GH5. Would just love to have more fps on the GH6, also can it do extended dynamic range while in this mode? Lastly would love to have a 4:3 sensor on the S1H mark Ii
Nice video, very informative,, thanks. Question, this concept applies to 4k to hd right? so for those with not too much HDD space, you can shot opengate 4k, then crop vertical 1080 HD. Most social media convert 8k, 6k, 4k to 1080HD anyway. Am i right? Wondering if you can do the same with videos from smartphones.
the advantage of so much resolution is you can crop anything out of it, and yes you're right that all the vertical socials are only HD for now.
@@photojoseph i see it from the mobile content creator, shot everything opengate 4k then do the crops for vertical 1080HD. I believe iphone requires an app to shot 4:3 4k
Amazing feature and a very informative and excellently made video (my only regret is that I didn't see your video sooner). I have both GH6 and GH5II. I see you use a Desview R6 monitor, but you only touched that briefly. I can't find from their products if any of their models will show the 4:3 aspect ratio, or just the 16:9 crop. I'm looking for a monitor that will show the full frame of the open gate 4:3. Any thoughts/brands/experiences?
Any monitor should work. The camera is outputting video to match the capabilities of the monitor (HD or UHD) and will pillarbox the output so you’re getting a 4:3 image.
@@photojoseph Thanks. This was most helpful as this open a world of possibilities. Learning new things for my Panasonics everyday. Just got a Tilta Float arm, and your other SmallRig review was also very helpful. Monitor next. Thanks one more.
@@ArnfinnNilsen awesome! You’re gonna love my next video 😉
The iPhone has an secret open gate mode and it is my favourite way to shoot on it so good for shooting landscape and still posting to vertical social
I’ve heard about this… what’s the secret? Another app?
GoPro does something similar too. Super useful.
Oh yeah, I forgot that!
Would you mind explaining the pros and cons of proxy vs optimized media?
Sure thing. Proxy is smaller (usually half size, so quarter the likes), and compressed. It’s meant to be small, easy to share via cloud, easy to fit on a laptop. Usually H264 or H265/HEVC Optimized is the opposite. Typically rendering to ProRes, full resolution. These files are much bigger than the source, BUT are easy for your computer to handle. Computers can work lay back ProRes more easily than bug H264 files that come off most cameras.
is there an option to set the ratio to 9:16 for filing for instagram reels?
Absolutely!
Wait a minute!! I don´t know how de-squeezing works resolution wise, but what would be the total resolution for a desqueezed video in Anamorphic open gate mode? that means being able to capture quite a wide and tall frame!!
This video explains all of that: ua-cam.com/video/jLvhw8eMAxw/v-deo.html
@@photojoseph My man!! Thank you!! I love your content!!
Thanks!
great detailed review.. BEST!
Thanks!!
Actually even the G7 has this :)), just tried it. - put the camera in 4K more from the left dial and set the 4k PHOTO mode to S/S (in camera menu) Now, select manual mode on (not video mode.) and press the shutter ! 4:3 aspect ratio video! cool!
Awesome. I think on the G7 there’s no audio and it defaults to a higher shutter speed for photo purposes, right?
@@photojoseph It's with audio. 😁
@@popaadrian4592 sweet!!
My sony 5 r has this I keep them around if I need a camera I can risk on film set
the NEX-5R? I did not know it shot full frame (APS-C) at native 3:2 at 30p. Is that what you’re saying it does? Cool!
@@photojoseph it's a good useful little camera and it has easily upscalable footage using topaz labs it's not full frame but you can use the 3:2 it has an anamorphic mode the video quality is not the highest bit rate but using a modestly good lens gives Sharp yet not over sharpened footage and you can also use the hack to get a hundred megabits a second 1080p but thats still not great but it's better than it's native 24 megabits and it has an option for either 60 FPS or 24 FPS still not the best but with topaz Labs upscaling the footage to 4K it looks great and fits in mostly with all my other cameras and for the $50 you can pick it up for it's basically a throwaway camera
@@photojoseph there is a scammer in the chat
I’ve seen and blocked. Hopefully I got them all but if you see more please report them. Thank you.
@@photojoseph okay I will thank you
Amazing video and great job! 👏
Thank you!
Hi! I got the S5 en Ninja V .. I can do that? or just filming 6k raw? Thanks
This is a such epic feature! I should tell my grandma immdiately, and she doesnt bother to rotate her camera anymore😊
Hi, can open gate shoot variable frame rato of any kind?
no, since 29.97 is they highest framerate
Just put an overlay on your monitor to frame a bit wider
Open gate is one of the features that puts Panasonic ahead of all the other manufacturers. It's crazy cool that only Panasonic is giving consumers these video features.
☺️
Hi Joseph, Is it me or it seems like you have been quiet for a while. Really great video about Open Gate/Anamorphic mode.
Thanks brother! Busy days, with projects outside of UA-cam. And this one took a while! Previous video was probably a month prior, on PTZ.
@@photojoseph Hi Brother, sounds great, I finally finish off my feature film in less than 4 weeks!
@@Filmmaker809 WOW. I can’t even imagine the undertaking.
Hi 😊 Thank you for this amazing video. Question: Do open gate files take up more data than 16:9 and if so do you have an estimated percentage of how much larger they might be? Open gate for non-anamorphic lens projects seems like a good option to allow for reframing up and down in post while maintaining 16:9. This could be especially valuable for gimbal shots if the camera unintentionally drifts too high or low for a take and a reframing adjustment is needed in post. Thank you sir. 👍
File size is determined by data rate, not pixel dimensions. 200mbit is 200mbit regardless if it’s 1080p, 4K or 6K. You can convert mbit per second (megabit per second) also written as mbps into megaBYTE per second, then x60 to get a per-minute estimate. Don’t forget to include audio but that’s minimal compared to video.
@@photojoseph Thank you for the reply. 😊 I didn’t know if 16:9 saved data by not recording the tops and bottoms of the sensor as opposed to open gate, but you have a good point in using the bit rate to look at file sizes. A person can look at the bit rate for each record setting (if they own a GH6) and make a storage decision from that perspective. For those of us who are considering a GH6 but don’t have one in our hands I suppose I was looking at it more from that perspective. Perhaps I can check the owners manual for the bit rates of 16:9 at 4K 4:2:2 10 bit and compare that bit rate to open gate at the same or closest similar resolution and calculate a percentage in file size difference from there. With a percentage difference in file size I can calculate a storage cost for shooting and storing open gate footage as opposed to 16:9 capture to assess if any difference in cost is a value proposition for my purposes. With the cost of high speed media for the GH6 it would be nice to be able to estimate the cost of data storage ownership before going down the GH6 path or going down the open gate path as opposed to 16:9. I don’t shoot for social media, only my own narrative work so open gate would just be a framing bonus (or safety) for me. Thank you for your insightful video and for your bitrate suggestion as a metric for choosing open gate or 16:9. All the best to you sir. 👍😊
@@cobymarcum1442 downloading the manual is definitely the way to go. All the info is there.
So this is what GoPro has done since the beginning- actually they have more modes where they use the rest of the sensor creatively- a shame that other companies don‘t use more of these options
It is a lot harder on bigger sensors, which is why you see it on small sensors more readily.
Hey there thanks for this video it is really insightful, appreciate it! I have a question as a GH5m2 owner. If I shoot open gate in 4k and crop in post am I losing quality as opposed to just shooting in 4k with the regular 16:9 aspect ratio? Does Panasonic do any enhancing when cropping in 16:9 that is missed when going open gate? Or am I just doing in post what the GH5m2 does for me when selecting a 16:9 aspect ratio. Thanks!
Well, you can crop any format out of any format right?
of course; if you have the resolution. Not quite sure what you’re stating here.
@@photojoseph While it might be interesting to have some framing abilities in post production. I personally go for most reliable setup. Typically thinks like 6k stress camera, battery and cards and I do live stuff so when it is gone it is gone, no second chance. And recording 6k or even 8k in 4:3 or 1:1 results in >1/3 of file size, card bandwidth and render time directly for the trash bin. Also cropping can result in strange effect due to distortion, lack of corner sharpness and vignetting, For what I do I see no advantage. I do cropping with my lenses not my computer. I even stopped recording 4k, because on my many distribution channels youtube and blueray the higher resolution or bandwidth cannot be noticed by the average audience. Especially if using natural or ambient light...
Understood, however I'd say that if the camera and cards couldn't handle recording at the stated size and bandwidth, then they wouldn't be able to. Panasonic is very conservative in its published capabilities. As long as you have a workflow that works for you, that's all that matters!
A GREAT VIDEO, JOSEPH!!! THANKS FOR EXPLAIN HOW OPEN GATE RUN... BEST REGARDS FROM SPAIN. NANO.
Glad it was helpful!
My gh6 is only showing 8 options in Rec Quality, none of them are anamorphic or go over 4k. Why is that??
You’re on MP4 recording mode. Switch to MOV.