Competitive CSGO on CS 1.6 Maps
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- Опубліковано 16 лис 2022
- We played a game of Competitive Counter-Strike on the original Counter-Strike 1.6 maps, taking us back 20 years to the beginning of time itself. How would modern competitive mechanics and mindset affect gameplay on the original dust2, nuke, and train?
cs1.6 dust2: steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
cs1.6 nuke: steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
cs1.6 train: steamcommunity.com/sharedfile... - Ігри
imagine having to crouch to move through the Nuke vents you kids have it easy these days why back in mah day...
I kinda miss it tbh. The other updates have been pretty nice, but it really felt more like crawling through vents. Name one building you have ever been in that has air vents you can stand up in.
@@nobodynoone2500 u want realistic? play tarkov or smt this is cs you can runboost ffs
@@yessir6427 who says runboosting doesn't work irl
Recently watched the Twitch VOD. Does prime subs still benefit you? I wanna keep subbing as long as I have prime to support your content.
you didnt need to crouch to go through vents back in the day
the 3kliks port of the map is scaled for 1.6 character heights
in csgo the players are so slightly taller than original which causes unforeseen consequences when porting the original maps
Love seeing these OG maps again, with all their nostalgia and impracticality.
indeed
yee
this could be a nice event mode for an operation.
Yep
Shut up skinport man
8:49 "I expect we will be playing dust2..." - Valve took that personal.
but thank god they did, fuck dust 2, and watching pros rush to learn a new map to have a pool advantage is going to be super cool to see, like in ancient
@@agatofelin722 the new maps are absolutely shit, wdym? Oldschool is best school
@@SBF_983 if by oldschool you mean tuscan, then fuck and a no. if you mean cache, keep dreaming, vulcan is on valorant. if you mean train, again, keep dreaming, map is flawed beyond correction. and i say this as someone who played 1.6 until late 2018, i never switched to go before then bcs it was payed and i played a pirated 1.6. We need to evolve, not keep sucking the same maps titties for juice until everyone gets tired and leaves
@@SBF_983 nah bro anubis looks more fun to play (and itis) so tss up there with office for me
@@SBF_983, I know my friend that old legend maps is best and still best but having a new map making things interesting, you can't judge the new map by the first try, you need multiple tires to judge it, biggest example is Anubis, I feel the map is fun to play, sure it has problems but it's just 1 month ago for being rereleased, I'm sure that Anubis and maybe Tuscan have a bright future.
You should also play the old maps that most people don't know like de_chateau , de_piranesi, de_prodigy and the old original de_cbble
please this one
Piranesi was a wonderful map for sniper battles xD
I second this. And showcase what made them bad bc ion even know what these maps are lol
de_storm was an actually well designed map for its time, a bit too big but the layout was decent
i have no idea why it didnt catch on, wiki says because it was uninteresting, but the theme alone is intriguing to me
Don't forget de_torn and de_airstrip. Complex maps but fun to play.
It's amazing how these graphics will always feel like home.
I played 1.6 like 18k hours, I was a demon as a kid. Loved seeing the maps again, it feels just like yesterday!
I absolutely love that OG maps really havent changed that much, they evolved just enough to make them more player friendly and easier on the eyes
Yeah, i don't hate how the old one looks but it reminds me a bit too much about how tp looks after i wipe lol
@@Ferrari255GTO 2D textures on rocks at Nuke are making my eyes bleed
@@lufetm thou shall not play half life 1
@@lufetm that's because you are seeing them in the Source engine which is understandable. However, most rock textures look perfectly fine on CS1.6. I wonder why Nuke never got proper rock textures like Siege.
@@XanderNiles yeah, Nuke rocks are horrible, in fact I think that Nuke aged the worst of all 1.6 maps
I like how Tdan is only a problem when he’s on the opposite team
“I expect we’ll be playing dust 2 with AK-47’s and M4s when my hair is completely gray and- ”
-dust2 +anubis update
Wanted to say extra thanks for this trip down memory lane. I kinda want to go play some 1.6 now. Maybe even see if I can do a pug
4:54 it's because directx9 + csgo's ambient occlusion shader. there's a setting in the nvidia control panel (the old one, not geforce experience) which you can modify to fix that (Ambient Occlusion).
let's be real most people don't want to fix it lmao
@@rynaxw it's either having a slight advantage sometimes by having AO enabled, or not having an FPS dip whenever there's a smoke grenade (that shader mixed with AO really tanks your FPS)
COD4 has this identical bug, whenever there's a smoke grenade you'd get 9-13 fps, even though you can run the game capped at 250fps with no stutters normally
on CS the dip isn't as noticeable as COD, but it's still there.
@4:55 That's just the particle bug. You can trigger it in multiple ways.
1: Extinguish a molotov with a smoke.
2: Throw a grenade in the smoke
3: Resmoke the same spot just before the first smoke fades away.
Far as I can tell from the short clip, this was a resmoke. So it w3as the particles from the first smoke evaporating that makes the second smoke see through.
Flawless game. Does this bug always happen or happen often? Or is it just something that can very rarely occur randomly when one of those things 3 happen.
@@ShadowsOfTheSky the bug can be forced, but you you can't force an opponent to stand in the correct spot to be visible through the smoke.
Man, I enjoyed playing 1.6 with all those different mod-ed servers, and with different sound effects.
My favorite mod was "Warcraft 3 Mod", where you could choose a race with different abilities. (Dude, I loved the ORC nades)
And I remember many servers would have special music/sound effects. Like I remember many servers where if you were the last person alive, they'd play part of a song that'd go "I am the one and only." Ah, the good old days...
I am like you. I loved the custom server side sounds live Chappelle's "Hold my drink, bitch"!
Forgot about wc3 mod for many years. Anything similar nowadays?
i remember the superhero mod everyone took spiderman ability to swing from place to place
smh valorante mod
@@GC-by6iz dude YES! I have fond memories of combining Riddick's Pitch Black power with Nightcrawler teleportation to sneak away hostages while the rest of the team was distracting the other guys, worked every time :D
It's funny how I think the 1.6 version of Nuke has great visuals... Probably because I grew up with Half-Life and 1.6 but it's crazy how good they made those games back in the days!
Perfect timing with that dust 2 comment at the end...
Don't know if this version of nuke is 100% faithful to 1.6, but at 6:55 you actually should be able to go through this obstacle and go down unharmed and even go to the other side.
if you fall from where he fell in 1.6 you're taking damage, at least 20hp
well, more like 15hp
I'm surprised and also saddened by the fact none of your teammates have played the OG CS.
5:53 "Graphics don't really matter at all. Visuals should only serve to augment the gameplay. A game designer has failed when the visuals get in the way of the gameplay." YES! THANK YOU!
exactly my thought. people who play video games for the graphics are the same who watch porn for the story. they just don't get it.
This has to be one of my favorite videos yet! Your commentary on the maps, how they developed, and specific nuances for each was incredibly interesting. Keep it up bro
It's amazing how familiar I am with these maps. I could draw every detail of these maps on paper right now without even failure. I loved to play 1.6 back in the days. More then I love csgo
german spotted?
@Warowl+⓵⓻⓹⓻⓸⓽⓸⓺⓸⓪⓷ lol
"Your Game design has failed when Visuals get in the way."
Such wiser words have never been spoken before.
Seeing a new WarOwl video always makes my day
20 years and I still love this game
Thanks for clearing out that last question, felt the dread of anxiety settle instantly.
"Dust 2 has been Dust 2 for 20 years..." Valve one day later:
It's nice to have you back. I used to watch your counterstrike videos back way back in the day, getting back into the game now thanks to you, maybe even CS2 if it pans out well.
I've always wondered how competitive would work for old maps, glad you guys can answer it!
As a 33 year old who's played CS since 1.6, this video hit me right in the feels.
i know this is a tiny detail but I enjoy the whole commentary + music you got going.
Ahhhh. I love this walk down memory lane. This video makes me want to try 1.6 pugs since I never did when I was younger. I was a dirty casual. I still am, but I was before, too.
4:17
GOD, I'm usually the baby of the group who didn't experience stuff, but NOW IM THE OLD ONE!
Loved this video. Obviously because I’m old enough as well to remember the layout of de_nuke. It was really fun video!
The nostalgia hits hard
We in fact will not have to play Dust2 forever because its out of the active map pool now
Your videos have never failed to expand my gameplay, as well as my vocabulary! 6:27 Never stop WarOwl, I love your videos.
Just want to say I've been loving your content.
i never played source or 1.6 but seeing these maps from this video as well as phoon's video was insane
That little linger of the video after the outro felt way smoother than the abrupt cutoff youve done on other vids, nice👌.
1.6 was something else, i play mostly ccs go, or used to, but when i logged on and saw like 389427 green men jump over short with parachutes it amazed me
"Back in my day we didn't have Mirage...we had cpl_strike!"
it`s crazy how going back to these maps you suddenly see the difference but they transitioned so smoothly that in mind those old textures looked as smooth as current textures back then but only now I notice how they weren`t
It was so fun to watch, this brings back so many memories
Thanks for reminding me of the merciless marching of time.
In my mind, I played this maps a few years ago.
It wasn't a few years ago...
0:47 wake up babe, new 3kliks lore just dropped
Oh My Gosh. WarOwl Upload gotta watch it. Love you man.
Best youtuber. Watching you since 2018. Introduced me to cs :DDD
Not going to lie, I was floored when I heard the DWANGO5 MAP01 music drop around 0:57. Well played.
Same lmao, hearing that puts a smile on my face haha. Didn't expect anyone else here to get that reference! Works perfectly with the throwback theme of this video.
And now there's no dust 2
You make my day WarOwl, whenever you upload a video.
Love the timing of this video, literally the day after de_dust2 is gone
Thx for curing my existential dread with that outro
This hit home for me I grew up playing the Xbox port of CS condition zero and most of the maps are the same as CS 1.6 and the one map that sticks out the most to me as being VASTLY different from 1.6 to GO is militia it’s a lot bigger in 1.6
exactly what i needed, got back from school, got some snacks, and ready to rest.
Wasn't expecting to be sent into an existential crisis at the end there. Thanks Warowl.
Great video as always!
Sick soundtrack warowl, i luv ya
I never thought I'd hear the word "liminal" in an actual description of a map.
That's certainly a video concept that deserves a sequel ... cs_assault! cs_747! de_cbble! So many great maps ... or at least fun maps.
love the soundtrack of your vid, because i love the hl soundtrack
Love this series
It's always a good day when WarOwl puts out a new video :)
+rep for using D5M1, wish DWANGO was less obscure since it created online gaming as we know it today
"I expect we'll be playing Dust II when my hair is completely gray and we've uploaded our conciousness into computers to live forever"
Valve next day: *unduststwo your counterstrike*
A masterpiece of a video!
while we play these maps some of the popular maps in 1.6 in my cafe were
de_mansion
de_assault
de_dust (we play dust 1 more than dust 2 because were sick of dust 2 lmao)
de_vertigo
de_inferno
cs_italy
and everyone's favorite de_deathmatch
It might be interesting to see the middle child evolutions of these maps from CS:Source to compare how far (or not far) they came from 1.6, but how far they still needed to go for CS:GO.
Playing Cs 1.6 maps on major would have been awesome hope they do it in the next one
Ah, the good old 1.6 maps. I still remember playing it on school computers with classmates. There was also css on some computers but every had 1.6 so of course we played that.
"break your disk" - Damn, that dates you. And me for understanding.
1:05 Respect for using the Dwango theme
When you talked about the IEM Rio CS:GO show match in your video, I couldn't agree more! It was dull, and featuring old school legends on classic maps with updated mechanics would've made it way more engaging, I hope that idea found it's way up to the people who can make it happen
One of the best videos ever
When you waxed lovecraftian about nuke, that was genuinely beautiful.
The nostalgia is unreal seeing these
perfect choice of Music on D2
Holy the littlebigplanet music man i love that game
TFW bro ends the video by giving you an existential crisis just in case you werent listening so you *just have to* check other videos (watch them all) so that crisis eases away !
that aside, love your stuff man :D
Ngl but this video is the literal definition of nostalgia
Nuke in 1.6 is nuts, so many nuances, wallbangs and bugs that you can take advantage, i suggest seein Gaules videos of him reacting to his old videos commenting WGS finals of G3X vs SK, it shows how different competitive cs was like from today.
It would be interesting to compare the two eras
oh you guys should play fy_pool_day just for the fun
"I expect we'll be playing dust II with Ak's and M4's when my hair is completely Gray", One day later Dust II is removed from the acvite duty maps...
HMMMMMMMMMM
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
did not age well at all, or did WarOwl know
love the old maps so muchh man
Old map have meaning to them. may be I'm wrong but they used to test your skills like train for sound and nuke for spamming. I still love them.
unexpected continuous improvement sales pitch at the end there
i know this is a csgo vid, so my comment should be csgo related but...
4:23 music memories of lbp
klaxon beat in the background best video ever
Oh man I can already imagine the scene that all of our hair is grey and I am still watching WarOwl playing nonsense game modes in CS
You can see someone through the smoke, either when there are particles behind the smoke (frag exploding behind) or when one smoke fades inside another one. Also light shining through(mirage window smoke light position).
Warowl hitting me with the existential crisis right at the end lol
You seem to be grown up with the same video games and especially shooters like me.
I would love to see Counter-Strike in Q3 (like q3dm6) or UT (like Deck 16) maps, but with the Team Deathmatch Rules from those games xD
the smoke glitch happens with 2 seperate smoke patterns getting shown, they both ignore eachother so if u would be visible behind a smoke patern and behind theres another that is covering u get projected through it. some cases allow it to happen with 1 smoke where the smoke gets seperated by x object. but most used is ofcourse the molotov or grenade trick
The old netherrack texture on the nuke rocks lol
love all the 1.6 content. im a newer 1.6 player and love the game so much. couch hopping and other movement tech are so fun. im much better at 1.6 than GO it seems even though I have 700+hrs on GO and only about 130 on 1.6.
I had to look up the definition of "liminal" after you used it a few times in this video. I thought I might share with others who might not know the definition.
liminal
adjective (TECHNICAL)
1. relating to a transitional or initial stage of a process.
2. occupying a position at, or on both sides of, a boundary or threshold.
You forgot to mention the biggest thing WAROWL. These maps didn't have Molotovs back then! Oh my you took me back in time! My favourite in these old maps was rushing ramp with 2 flashes on T side nuke. So effective I won almost always! (Coz molotovs weren't there to stop you)
lol that bring me back !!! The death vent drop in Nuke... how many time i did that :P
5:30, oh yeah, like in the good old days. I remember this map so well, except that I think that now I will probably get a bit confused with the vents.
I'm like a year late to this video, but just appeared on my feed, I just want to see I'm sad to see assassination maps gone, we would play as_oilrig 24/7 no AWP on our cybercafe, I wish I could play something like that on CS2 lol. Other maps we could add to the rotation when other people came that I miss are cs_siege, cs_militia, de_prodigy and de_dust. I guess not seeing them in competitive rotation means they were kinda broken or unbalanced, but I'm just sharing my nostalgia. Since I saw map workshop added to CS2 I go check every few days for any of those maps in the workshop lol
cheers
when you play as ct side on dd2 there was ways to know when t side have b rush spawn, we had to put 3 dudes on b side to be prepared.
We need a csgo playlist that just randomly selects one of the warowl made game modes to play
"Break your disc" maybe the best line hahaha
And on the same day this is release, Dust 2 is taken out of the active map pool.
The timing is unreal