I wish HO gave more disclosure to relationship, etc. similar to how flannel daddy GT does it. His Olight fascination always left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. Still watch him and think he’s a helluva shot.
I had been carrying a full size FN 509T and went to the P365 XMacro for my daily carry. It’s insane to think they have the same magazine capacity. That being said I’ve always loved the P365 concept but I just couldn’t shoot any of these micro carry pistols well (I also gave up on an OG Shield). Once the XMacro came out I knew I was on board. The grip just feels too good in the hands to ignore, optics ready, non-proprietary rail, straight trigger checks all the boxes. The extra 2 rounds compared to the Hellcat is just a bonus. Sig really raised the bar again.
Pretty much my situation I had the 509 mid size for years I always wanted the p365 but the capacity was iffy for me then the macro came out gave me every reason to get the p356 series of pistols 💪
A coworkers wife just got him this gun....it's his 1st handgun...trying to coach him through all the other essentials of shooting and carrying a firearm. Sent him this video. Looking forward to training with you next year.
Def recommend, shoots like a full size, conceals like a sub compact. Comp doesn’t do a whole lot; more percussion and louder but not as effective as actual comp like PMM
Not going to lie, I don’t trust anyones gun/optic reviews like yours. Appreciate you making these unbiased videos for us. I’ve been looking at one of these but it’s so hard with all the “hype” men putting out videos as soon as it rolls out
Thank you for your review. Just picked up the module to replace on my xls. My “macro” replaced my p365 xl and p320 xcompacts in my carry inventory. If I want an xl size grip I can carry my regular p365 with extended xl mag, but for me this felt better then the xcomp or xl. It’s almost the exact same size as the xcomp…just thinner.
I love this gun so happy I purchased it. Use it tight clothing occasions like work and church. My go to carry is still my 2011 but the X-Macro can fulfill any role.
I went shopping last week and handled the 365x, the xl, and the macro side by side. Based on the feel of the gun in hand, I immediately knew that the macro was the way to go. It's that noticable. I took home the macro.
Nobody talks about the LOW Bore Axis. My EDC was a Wilson Combat P320 Compact ( with a Bore Axis about 3/8"+ higher than the P365 xMacro), after shooting the xMacro I no longer carry the P320c. The xMacro seems to recoil lighter than the P320c My likes are Grip Angle, Adjustable grip size, Low recoil, ACCURACY, Pic Rail and Capacity! Since 17 round xMacro mags are so expensive I took 2 of my 15 round P365 mags and cut the baseplate to match the angle of the bottom of the grip on the xMacro ...so now I have 2 extra mags (albeit, two 15 rounders)! Accuracy is really good (85% off hand, Head shot hits on FBI "Q" target) for such a short barrel!!
You described the X-Macro perfectly here. I love mine. Just picked up a Tenicor VELO4 for it and started carrying it yesterday. I have 1,000 rounds through it so far and I love it. One thing I will note is that I changed to total metal jacket type ammo for practice. I was getting a LOT of lead build-up on the muzzle end of the barrel using Federal American Eagle FMJ. Switched to Ammo Inc. 124gr TMC and only get carbon fouling with no visible lead fouling. Edit to add: I don’t see lead fouling on my X or XL using the same Federal AE. Apparently the comp (brake?) design has something to do with splattering lead from the base of the standard FMJ price tile with exposed lead base. I doubt I will add a light, but I am tempted to throw a dot on it.
I love mine. Have had it for a couple months now and it the only thing I have carried since I got it. Was carrying a43x and a g19 before that this is the same size as the 43x with more capacity than the 19
For me the width is what makes a gun concealable. Thats why I added the gip to my XL. The grips and the mags are now available and have been a few days now.
Great video, as usual. I’m not big on the bling factor of the Spectre Comp either, although it is a great shooting gun. I do like the look of the Macro. Mine has been fantastic and I was finally able to get some extra mags for it. I think SIG did well with this gun.
So I started with an original p365 as my first concealed carry gun. I need something very minimalist for carry at my job due to always lifting and bending over. Fast forward to now I have bought the components to convert my p365 trigger system into any size gun I want. Bought the XL upper a year ago and now I have the xl and macro grip modules to go with the original p365. The absolute best carry system, can change my setup based on the situation I find myself in.
Since you didn’t mention it, I assume you haven’t experienced any rusting issues? Many reports popping up online regarding rusting of the magazines and rust developing around the dovetail areas of the sights. Thank you very much for the video. I enjoy your work.
I had a Shadow Systems MR920 and only went to my LGS to see the X Macro for a possible purchase later on down the road. But then I held it in my hand and a light shined bright, angels were singing and it traded places with the 920. Maybe it was someone playing with a flashlight. Maybe it was a ringtone playing. Maybe 🤔... 😂
Oddly enough I remember seeing multiple people try to simulate a drop with the OG P320 and they failed to replicate the problem. It definitely existed, and the possibility of it wasn't worth the risk but people in the gun community are complete monkeys when it comes to issues like that...they acted like if you looked at the gun wrong it would fire. Personally I shoot the P320 really well, but I am not sure I can get myself to buy one. Especially with Radian now making the Ramjet I have been leaning towards just grabbing a G45 and calling it a day.
@@Osprey1994 I shot my brother-in-law's M18. Gotta admit, it was really nice. My problem with sig comes from visual evidence of multiple different platforms having horrible QC issues online and personal experience. They have a reputation of beta testing on customers too. That's why theres 42069 versions of the 365. I've had 2 of the original strikers that had to be replaced because they snapped. Eventually they changed the design but they didn't issue a recall or do anything through the proper channels of PR I also had to get a new gas block for my Gen1 mpx because it blew out the taper pin holding it to the barrel. They fixed the issue in the Gen 2 and 3 but again, didn't issue a recall or a warranty. You'd think for a $2k gun I'd get better customer service
@@garyj449 they fixed your problem, what better customer service experience could you ask for? Taper pins have held gas blocks for 70+ years. Definitely not a widespread issue with MPX so why issue a recall for your one guns one specific issue? What a weird position to take.
@@Kattbirb after carrying a subcompact single stack for so many years it's not as big of a deal to me but it would be nice to have that option for sure...
@@DanielBoone337 Oh, I agree with that. I find any capacity greater than about twelve rounds to be fairly academic as far as carry pistols go. Having options, as you said, is good. Could benefit range time at the very least.
Looks like a lot more companies are making holsters for the Xmacro. Trex arms makes their ironside holster (high ride owb) and sidecar (AIWB) for the Xmacro and can even add a light. They aren’t fancy but does the job pretty well. So the holster options are rapidly improving.
Wanted a tier1 axis elite, but settled for a QVO more discreet tlr7sub, which I do like. Still gonna go back with a tier1 once they offer them as light bearing options.
My brother (5’8” 230lbs) and I (6’3” 180lbs) went Trex and we love them. Printing is usually a problem with us because of our builds but it all works without us having to just through clothing hoops
Picked one up to get the slide retaining the sites and 17rd spare mags. Put it on a wilson p365xl grip module and carry it with 12rdr and 17rdr as backup. The mag release on the macro is superior, the grip profile on the macro is superior just wish they had the same in xl length, but could not tell the difference comped or not comped on xl size.
The Wilson Combat grip is superior to the Macro module. Better texture, better ergonomics. They will likely have a Macro module eventually, but apparently we have to wait a bit more according to a video they posted a few months ago.
So far my Macro with TLR 7 Sub has fit every holster I've tried for a Glock 19 with TLR 7A. Not fit "well enough". Fits like it was made for it. Trigger guard adequately covered, good retention, and only a slight wobble back and forth. All passed the upside down shake test.
Man I don't know how I haven't heard of you earlier, also 100% agreed on the brake thing, reduces muzzle flip not recoil impulse. Also if they could do that port job well that would be great, but sounds like a lot of barrel they'd have to remove for how much force it'll have to endure, then again they could reinforce it
I was wondering if you'd gotten one of these... I've had mine since the 3rd week in August. As you may know by now mags are available and finally - grip modules. Going to set up one XL with an XM lower, threaded barrel and Herrington Arms single port comp, mostly 'cuz I can. Curious to see if the great feel in hand remains on XM adapted guns. Thanks for the review!
I have a Sig p320 sub compact, a p365 standard and a p365 x macro. The p320 sc and the x macro are the same size from top of rack to bottom of grip to front of slide to back of slide but the p320 only holds 12+1, feels clunky and my pinky finger can't fit on the grip at all. I will say the p320 doesn't print as badly because the grip is much shorter but I live in Maine which is a constitutional carry state so I'm not too worried about it I just try to not let people see it to keep people comfortable. Got the sig romeo zero elite sight on it and a vedder iwb holster that fits perfectly.
I’m thinking that you could make this gun with a longer barrel keep the slide width and frame size and have a duty gun as well. I’m not sure that the bulk of the full-size gun is needed. Thanks for a great review.❤
Only issue as a duty gun I could see would be parts longevity. Lower reciprocating mass = higher slide speeds which mean more wear and tear on internal components. Not a huge issue for CCW guys but for a department issue it would increase their cost per pistol with higher replacement part schedule.
Holding this the X model, XL, and the original, they all definitely have a different feel to them and I could see myself using them all for different purposes. I think this is a little big for concealing but could be done. Personally I think this will fill a niche for an all purpose if you could only get one. That’s for the knowledge transfer.
I’ve been hearing complaints about rusting. Any thoughts on this? And this is likely to be my first gun and I’m wondering what y’all’s thoughts are about shooting it first or just buying it without having shot it first. Should I buy it outright or shoot it first. I’ve already held it and it’s literally perfectly fitting for my hand and feels amazing. I was considering looking at the comp but sounds like the comp isn’t anything special….
I actually find the X-Macro grip to be too slick for my hands and need to find some place that can do some laser stippling on it. That said, it's a wonderful gun and fits perfectly with the Vedder LightTuck holster. The gun really started to shine after a few hundred rounds of break in. The slide and trigger were incredibly stiff out of the box but after break in they became perfect
As an FYI for those that want to modify an X-Macro grip module to install a manual safety equipped FCU into the X-Macro, it won't fit. In addition to the cut-outs for the safety levers, you'll need to machine down the backside thickness of the safety levers themselves and the sides of the grip module where the safety lever swings up and down. It can be done, but its a PITA.
I got one very early on but I couldn’t get with it , I love 17 rounds and the comp but it gave me some discomforts and I couldn’t shoot it well and I have had other sigs have had glocks cz’s but I like the concept and I’ve considered once the macros aftermarket comes out I’ll just build one I think my problem was with the mem’ed trigger shoe and the grip module
So I own the xl, and honestly think I’m going to be getting a regular 365 and just the macro grip module +mags. Then I can mix and match all 3 grips with both slide lengths. Though I will say that the “comp” is interesting, as is keeping the rear sight… just not sure if it’s worth it when I already have the xl.
Just FYI, the Macro grip module won’t work on the standard 365 or X length slide. It will install, but the rail is longer on the Macro module. It will protrude beyond the end of the slide/muzzle.
You can buy the grip module and the mags by themself at this time. The handle is getting a bit too long to do what a 365 was initially marketed to do IMHO.
SIG did do a ported P365, the first run of the SAS model. Met with a lot of concern from the "it'll kill you in retention shooting and blind your unborn grandchildren" types. Probably why they didn't try again.
I carry a standard size p365. My hands are not large, I can get half my pinky on the grip even with the flush mag. That's more than adequate for me. My P365XL has one of the best feeling grips for my hands. But I still prefer to conceal my P365. (I'm 5'10", ~130lbs, thin.) The XMacro is more grip than my hands really need. But I still want one, cuz, why not?!
Relatively new to your channel, but love the videos! Great review, I love shooting my X-macro. I was wondering what the band was strapped to your right forearm in parts of the video. I apologize in advance if you have discussed and I missed it. Thanks!
BandIT - for shooter, usually used when suffering from discomfort associated with common the extensor tendon where it attaches to the lateral epicondyle. Often (incorrectly) referred to as "lateral epicondylitis" or "tennis elbow."
I know you have a relationship with FN so some natural bias comes into play but you always seem like a straight shooter(pun intended), what would you say has more recoil mitigation? This or 509 cc edge?
Speaking of light technology, I foresee Modlite releasing a single cell 18350 light that fits this size profile of lights. Maybe wishful thinking, but would be quite awesome.
Bought one. Working on my trigger control. I'm shooting left and down, that's me. Its not a true compact however it's comfortable iwb. You know it's there. 17 rds baby.
I agree the XL full length barrel offers longer sight radius, higher velocity and easier to maintain. Send it out for magnaporting for truly functional compensation that doesn't obscure one's central sight picture. Lose the red dot and swap out the front sight for a big tritium Night Fission in bright yellow phosphor luminescence.
@@jamesgarrison5546 Read the book by Jim Cerillo, Modern Day Gunfighter, superstar of the NYC special crimes unit during 70's crime spike. Dozens of close quarter gunfights to his record. The fastest way to aim a semi-automatic handgun is not even with the sights it's using one of the top edges of the frame. First one to get a hit wins. Trade your gadget budget for some solid training. Perfect practice makes perfect. Try finding that dot during stress-under-fire, one-handed off-axis shooting or shooting on the run.
I talked mom just got the xmacro. It feels much better to her than her Glock17. I like the grip much better than my 365XL as well. Within a minute i put my slide on the xmacro grip. This is the way. I found the grip online for like 50$.
Unfortunately they probably won't put the slide up for sale for a bit, hopefully it's a tad cheaper than the Specter comp slide. Reason being is that it would cost me nearly as much as the Specter comp slide if I were to buy all the parts needed to put a XL slide on my setup, and even more if I wanted the slide that keeps the rear sight dovetail. With these new slides I can keep my barrel, pick up the recoil spring and the slide and be done.
I have the Sig Sauer P365X with the Wilson Combat grip module and the Magguts kits and that reliability gives me 14+1 rounds and that’s perfect for me! It’s easily concealable and very comfortable to carry in my Tenicor Velo4 appendix holster! I honestly don’t see any reason to go with this new Sig, the only downside to mine is the loss of the rear sight when adding my optic!
So, I'm not a big dude and the P365XL is about the perfect size carry gun year-round. I want the Macro slide to drop onto my XL, I have to carry +P ammo if I want to be covered by my agency in the event of an off duty shooting. I'm thinking I might buy the Macro, swap slides so the XL has the Macro slide and the Macro frame has the XL slide, and use the full size gun as a home defense gun my wife could also use.
I've done exactly this, bought the Macro grip module + 2 mags for my P365xl 99% of the time I carry the XL, but at home I just swap it to the Macro grip in less than a minute.
What do you think about the platform without a safety like Glock trigger bar or 19/2011 grip safety? Would you worry about it going off when you don’t want it to like the reports on P320 (and carrying appendix)
Wonder how it would feel with a full length ported p365xl barrel in it. Dont understand why sig didnt just go that route rather than the shorter barrel.
Aaron Cowan, and the Honest Outlaw, are my 2 favorite go to guys for no BS reviews!
HO works with Leviathan Group, just saying
@@StevenL00 Ok? Develop a brain and the ability to think for yourself and it's not an issue.
@@Osprey1994 that's not a problem. Problem is, many people don't seem to know that
I wish HO gave more disclosure to relationship, etc. similar to how flannel daddy GT does it. His Olight fascination always left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. Still watch him and think he’s a helluva shot.
What about Arkz Gun?? Has A nice video on the Bul Armory SAS II UL . Huge channel but Sage is hes Favorite Channel as well 🤣 🤣 🤣.
I had been carrying a full size FN 509T and went to the P365 XMacro for my daily carry. It’s insane to think they have the same magazine capacity. That being said I’ve always loved the P365 concept but I just couldn’t shoot any of these micro carry pistols well (I also gave up on an OG Shield). Once the XMacro came out I knew I was on board. The grip just feels too good in the hands to ignore, optics ready, non-proprietary rail, straight trigger checks all the boxes. The extra 2 rounds compared to the Hellcat is just a bonus. Sig really raised the bar again.
Pretty much my situation I had the 509 mid size for years I always wanted the p365 but the capacity was iffy for me then the macro came out gave me every reason to get the p356 series of pistols 💪
A coworkers wife just got him this gun....it's his 1st handgun...trying to coach him through all the other essentials of shooting and carrying a firearm. Sent him this video. Looking forward to training with you next year.
My buddy just won this in a raffle..
Cowan we respect your expertise and although you don’t do you tube for a living we really appreciate these videos. Thanks!
This particular pistol has been very high up on my list, and as always your videos answer all my questions. Fantastic review.
Def recommend, shoots like a full size, conceals like a sub compact. Comp doesn’t do a whole lot; more percussion and louder but not as effective as actual comp like PMM
Not going to lie, I don’t trust anyones gun/optic reviews like yours. Appreciate you making these unbiased videos for us. I’ve been looking at one of these but it’s so hard with all the “hype” men putting out videos as soon as it rolls out
Thanks for the clear and thorough review. You and honest outlaw are my go to sources. 👍
I also love the retention of the metal sights. They are great and it's a pity to lose either of them.
Thank you for the very informative videos that you produce.
Thank you for your review. Just picked up the module to replace on my xls. My “macro” replaced my p365 xl and p320 xcompacts in my carry inventory. If I want an xl size grip I can carry my regular p365 with extended xl mag, but for me this felt better then the xcomp or xl. It’s almost the exact same size as the xcomp…just thinner.
I love this gun so happy I purchased it. Use it tight clothing occasions like work and church. My go to carry is still my 2011 but the X-Macro can fulfill any role.
Are you doing security for the church?
I went shopping last week and handled the 365x, the xl, and the macro side by side. Based on the feel of the gun in hand, I immediately knew that the macro was the way to go. It's that noticable. I took home the macro.
Great choice...I was going to purchase the Sig Sauer p365 xl until I handled the X Macro comp now I'm picking up the X Macro comp tomorrow
I drive 3 hours to drill on Friday nights. Thank you for reliably providing entertainment during my commute
I used to have a 3 hour drill drive, now down to 2. I’m right there with you.
I purchased a 509C Tac and recently purchased a 365 Macro. 509 sits in the night stand now. Macro feels perfect in the hands
My new favorite is a standard XL FCU, Barrel and slide in the X Macro Grip module. It works like champ
Bought mine the month they released, slapped a 507k and tlr 7 sub on it. Zero malfunctions and feels like using a cheat code to shoot.
Digging mine so far.
Nice use of your word-of-the-day calendar.
I just recently switched from the XL Module to the Macro, and for me, it concealed as well and the 5 extra rounds is a massive upgrade
Nobody talks about the LOW Bore Axis. My EDC was a Wilson Combat P320 Compact ( with a Bore Axis about 3/8"+ higher than the P365 xMacro), after shooting the xMacro I no longer carry the P320c. The xMacro seems to recoil lighter than the P320c My likes are Grip Angle, Adjustable grip size, Low recoil, ACCURACY, Pic Rail and Capacity! Since 17 round xMacro mags are so expensive I took 2 of my 15 round P365 mags and cut the baseplate to match the angle of the bottom of the grip on the xMacro ...so now I have 2 extra mags (albeit, two 15 rounders)! Accuracy is really good (85% off hand, Head shot hits on FBI "Q" target) for such a short barrel!!
You described the X-Macro perfectly here. I love mine. Just picked up a Tenicor VELO4 for it and started carrying it yesterday. I have 1,000 rounds through it so far and I love it.
One thing I will note is that I changed to total metal jacket type ammo for practice. I was getting a LOT of lead build-up on the muzzle end of the barrel using Federal American Eagle FMJ. Switched to Ammo Inc. 124gr TMC and only get carbon fouling with no visible lead fouling.
Edit to add: I don’t see lead fouling on my X or XL using the same Federal AE. Apparently the comp (brake?) design has something to do with splattering lead from the base of the standard FMJ price tile with exposed lead base.
I doubt I will add a light, but I am tempted to throw a dot on it.
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Love my XMacro. Excellent review. 👌
Great review. Your video presentation presence is excellent. Very smooth and clearly presented. Kudos.
You may be late to it but that’s because you’re thoughts and reviews are the only ones that matter and worth waiting for.
I love mine. Have had it for a couple months now and it the only thing I have carried since I got it. Was carrying a43x and a g19 before that this is the same size as the 43x with more capacity than the 19
Appreciate the review, Aaron.
For me the width is what makes a gun concealable. Thats why I added the gip to my XL. The grips and the mags are now available and have been a few days now.
Great video, as usual. I’m not big on the bling factor of the Spectre Comp either, although it is a great shooting gun. I do like the look of the Macro. Mine has been fantastic and I was finally able to get some extra mags for it. I think SIG did well with this gun.
So I started with an original p365 as my first concealed carry gun. I need something very minimalist for carry at my job due to always lifting and bending over. Fast forward to now I have bought the components to convert my p365 trigger system into any size gun I want. Bought the XL upper a year ago and now I have the xl and macro grip modules to go with the original p365. The absolute best carry system, can change my setup based on the situation I find myself in.
No doubt people will find a way to complain about anything and everything. Excellent review as always.
Just picked one up! Just waiting for it to ship to my ffl…good review as always.
Since you didn’t mention it, I assume you haven’t experienced any rusting issues? Many reports popping up online regarding rusting of the magazines and rust developing around the dovetail areas of the sights. Thank you very much for the video. I enjoy your work.
I’m a slim fella and I’m digging this new trend of thin pistols. It makes all the difference for carry and I’ve never had so many options. Good times
Should’ve gone with an x/xl then
I really liked the slow motion shot you did. Pls do that more often. Helps me see the recoil impulse a little better.
I had a Shadow Systems MR920 and only went to my LGS to see the X Macro for a possible purchase later on down the road. But then I held it in my hand and a light shined bright, angels were singing and it traded places with the 920. Maybe it was someone playing with a flashlight. Maybe it was a ringtone playing. Maybe 🤔... 😂
Another great review! I love my P365xl but this is tempting.
Get one. It is what the XL should have been. 💯
I'm so glad Sage never did the drop test on the original P320
Lmao. I wait a year to buy any sig products, or just dont buy them. They're unfortunately very loose with their QC nowadays.
Oddly enough I remember seeing multiple people try to simulate a drop with the OG P320 and they failed to replicate the problem. It definitely existed, and the possibility of it wasn't worth the risk but people in the gun community are complete monkeys when it comes to issues like that...they acted like if you looked at the gun wrong it would fire.
Personally I shoot the P320 really well, but I am not sure I can get myself to buy one. Especially with Radian now making the Ramjet I have been leaning towards just grabbing a G45 and calling it a day.
@@Osprey1994 if I remember correctly, legally armed America was able to make the gun go off with a hammer hitting the slide
@@Osprey1994 I shot my brother-in-law's M18. Gotta admit, it was really nice.
My problem with sig comes from visual evidence of multiple different platforms having horrible QC issues online and personal experience.
They have a reputation of beta testing on customers too. That's why theres 42069 versions of the 365. I've had 2 of the original strikers that had to be replaced because they snapped. Eventually they changed the design but they didn't issue a recall or do anything through the proper channels of PR
I also had to get a new gas block for my Gen1 mpx because it blew out the taper pin holding it to the barrel. They fixed the issue in the Gen 2 and 3 but again, didn't issue a recall or a warranty. You'd think for a $2k gun I'd get better customer service
@@garyj449 they fixed your problem, what better customer service experience could you ask for? Taper pins have held gas blocks for 70+ years. Definitely not a widespread issue with MPX so why issue a recall for your one guns one specific issue? What a weird position to take.
What's up Aaron? Glad to see this one!
Definitely a pretty sweet gun... I already have the P365XL Spectre comp but I like the added round count you get with this one.
Hopefully the grip modules will be available soon, if not now, then you can make your own.
@@Kattbirb after carrying a subcompact single stack for so many years it's not as big of a deal to me but it would be nice to have that option for sure...
@@DanielBoone337 Oh, I agree with that. I find any capacity greater than about twelve rounds to be fairly academic as far as carry pistols go.
Having options, as you said, is good. Could benefit range time at the very least.
Thanks for teasing you have an EPS carry red dot. Really want to get one.
Great video man! Love the 365 X M myself. Big fan of it!
I just picked one up, partly due to your review. It replaced my Glock 19 as my daily.
These grip modules are available at SIG for around $80. I'm waiting on the Wilson Combat version.
Thanks a lot man great & honest review. thanks to you I bought this gun :)
Looks like a lot more companies are making holsters for the Xmacro. Trex arms makes their ironside holster (high ride owb) and sidecar (AIWB) for the Xmacro and can even add a light. They aren’t fancy but does the job pretty well. So the holster options are rapidly improving.
Wanted a tier1 axis elite, but settled for a QVO more discreet tlr7sub, which I do like. Still gonna go back with a tier1 once they offer them as light bearing options.
Went TRex w/TLR7A SideCar 2.0, so far I like it; easy to conceal and I’m a scrawny ass 150lb
My brother (5’8” 230lbs) and I (6’3” 180lbs) went Trex and we love them. Printing is usually a problem with us because of our builds but it all works without us having to just through clothing hoops
Same holster as the XL.
I need a holster without a sidecar for the extra mag any reccomendations? I liked the teir 1. But they only make it with the sidecar for extra mag
Straight and to the point!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Picked one up to get the slide retaining the sites and 17rd spare mags. Put it on a wilson p365xl grip module and carry it with 12rdr and 17rdr as backup. The mag release on the macro is superior, the grip profile on the macro is superior just wish they had the same in xl length, but could not tell the difference comped or not comped on xl size.
The Wilson Combat grip is superior to the Macro module. Better texture, better ergonomics. They will likely have a Macro module eventually, but apparently we have to wait a bit more according to a video they posted a few months ago.
Comp wasn't a big deal to me either. The grip allows excellent control, I opted for the slight bump in velocity.
Boy am I gonna miss this channel when it goes Patreon-only!
I have and love the 365 and have been looking at the xmacro. I wonder how long before the holster market catches up.
So far my Macro with TLR 7 Sub has fit every holster I've tried for a Glock 19 with TLR 7A. Not fit "well enough". Fits like it was made for it. Trigger guard adequately covered, good retention, and only a slight wobble back and forth. All passed the upside down shake test.
Interesting
Wow the upside down test wow ! Cant believe it past such a grueling test!
@@justfacts6164 What test would you like it to pass?
Man I don't know how I haven't heard of you earlier, also 100% agreed on the brake thing, reduces muzzle flip not recoil impulse. Also if they could do that port job well that would be great, but sounds like a lot of barrel they'd have to remove for how much force it'll have to endure, then again they could reinforce it
The Man is the machine, I love Watching his in depth reviews This man quit school Because of recess. Meaning he does not play.
Very nice pistol, only downside is it gets dirtier much faster due to the comp design. Plan on cleaning it twice as often as a 365 XL.
Yep. My Macro is hands down the dirtiest shooting pistol I own. 🤣
I was wondering if you'd gotten one of these... I've had mine since the 3rd week in August. As you may know by now mags are available and finally - grip modules. Going to set up one XL with an XM lower, threaded barrel and Herrington Arms single port comp, mostly 'cuz I can. Curious to see if the great feel in hand remains on XM adapted guns. Thanks for the review!
As usual… solid review.
I have a Sig p320 sub compact, a p365 standard and a p365 x macro. The p320 sc and the x macro are the same size from top of rack to bottom of grip to front of slide to back of slide but the p320 only holds 12+1, feels clunky and my pinky finger can't fit on the grip at all. I will say the p320 doesn't print as badly because the grip is much shorter but I live in Maine which is a constitutional carry state so I'm not too worried about it I just try to not let people see it to keep people comfortable. Got the sig romeo zero elite sight on it and a vedder iwb holster that fits perfectly.
I’m thinking that you could make this gun with a longer barrel keep the slide width and frame size and have a duty gun as well. I’m not sure that the bulk of the full-size gun is needed. Thanks for a great review.❤
Only issue as a duty gun I could see would be parts longevity. Lower reciprocating mass = higher slide speeds which mean more wear and tear on internal components. Not a huge issue for CCW guys but for a department issue it would increase their cost per pistol with higher replacement part schedule.
Holding this the X model, XL, and the original, they all definitely have a different feel to them and I could see myself using them all for different purposes. I think this is a little big for concealing but could be done. Personally I think this will fill a niche for an all purpose if you could only get one. That’s for the knowledge transfer.
Looks impressive. Held one at an LGS 2 weeks ago. Felt similar to my XL, but better. Grip was a big improvement.
I know this was probably recorded a little while ago but you can now buy the grip mod and mags from sig
They didn't release more mags because they didn't WANT you to do a burndown hahaha
Love your channel
As of the last couple weeks the macro grips are now available. Mags are tough to find
I’d really like this gun as a non “comp” version. Like an XL slide sku, like you said port it if you like
I own it and love it. Definitely flat shooting and feels amazing in the hand. Laser accurate too
I’ve been hearing complaints about rusting. Any thoughts on this? And this is likely to be my first gun and I’m wondering what y’all’s thoughts are about shooting it first or just buying it without having shot it first. Should I buy it outright or shoot it first. I’ve already held it and it’s literally perfectly fitting for my hand and feels amazing. I was considering looking at the comp but sounds like the comp isn’t anything special….
I did buy the grip module and mags from Sig.
I run a Sig Sauer Blackpoint holster. Satisfied with it.
This guy is so cool! Love the content!
I actually find the X-Macro grip to be too slick for my hands and need to find some place that can do some laser stippling on it. That said, it's a wonderful gun and fits perfectly with the Vedder LightTuck holster. The gun really started to shine after a few hundred rounds of break in. The slide and trigger were incredibly stiff out of the box but after break in they became perfect
I've done laser stippling on my xl and I feel like it wasn't that grippy, maybe even less grippy than stock
As an FYI for those that want to modify an X-Macro grip module to install a manual safety equipped FCU into the X-Macro, it won't fit. In addition to the cut-outs for the safety levers, you'll need to machine down the backside thickness of the safety levers themselves and the sides of the grip module where the safety lever swings up and down. It can be done, but its a PITA.
I got one very early on but I couldn’t get with it , I love 17 rounds and the comp but it gave me some discomforts and I couldn’t shoot it well and I have had other sigs have had glocks cz’s but I like the concept and I’ve considered once the macros aftermarket comes out I’ll just build one I think my problem was with the mem’ed trigger shoe and the grip module
I hope the MSRP drops soon because 800$ is a little steep for a pistol. Either way I want it down the road
So I own the xl, and honestly think I’m going to be getting a regular 365 and just the macro grip module +mags. Then I can mix and match all 3 grips with both slide lengths. Though I will say that the “comp” is interesting, as is keeping the rear sight… just not sure if it’s worth it when I already have the xl.
Just FYI, the Macro grip module won’t work on the standard 365 or X length slide. It will install, but the rail is longer on the Macro module. It will protrude beyond the end of the slide/muzzle.
You can buy the grip module and the mags by themself at this time. The handle is getting a bit too long to do what a 365 was initially marketed to do IMHO.
SIG did do a ported P365, the first run of the SAS model. Met with a lot of concern from the "it'll kill you in retention shooting and blind your unborn grandchildren" types. Probably why they didn't try again.
I carry a standard size p365. My hands are not large, I can get half my pinky on the grip even with the flush mag. That's more than adequate for me. My P365XL has one of the best feeling grips for my hands. But I still prefer to conceal my P365. (I'm 5'10", ~130lbs, thin.) The XMacro is more grip than my hands really need. But I still want one, cuz, why not?!
This will be my next conceal carry
How many rounds do you have to shoot before patches start to appear on your loop fields?
Relatively new to your channel, but love the videos! Great review, I love shooting my X-macro.
I was wondering what the band was strapped to your right forearm in parts of the video. I apologize in advance if you have discussed and I missed it.
Thanks!
BandIT - for shooter, usually used when suffering from discomfort associated with common the extensor tendon where it attaches to the lateral epicondyle. Often (incorrectly) referred to as "lateral epicondylitis" or "tennis elbow."
As a left I see you use your trigger finger to use the controls. Is it not ambi or do you just prefer using it as it is?
I know you have a relationship with FN so some natural bias comes into play but you always seem like a straight shooter(pun intended), what would you say has more recoil mitigation? This or 509 cc edge?
Speaking of light technology, I foresee Modlite releasing a single cell 18350 light that fits this size profile of lights. Maybe wishful thinking, but would be quite awesome.
Sir, your vocabulary is as impressive as your shooting. Good stuff.
Bought one. Working on my trigger control. I'm shooting left and down, that's me. Its not a true compact however it's comfortable iwb. You know it's there. 17 rds baby.
I agree the XL full length barrel offers longer sight radius, higher velocity and easier to maintain. Send it out for magnaporting for truly functional compensation that doesn't obscure one's central sight picture. Lose the red dot and swap out the front sight for a big tritium Night Fission in bright yellow phosphor luminescence.
That’s moving backwards. Red dots are the future
@@jamesgarrison5546 Read the book by Jim Cerillo, Modern Day Gunfighter, superstar of the NYC special crimes unit during 70's crime spike. Dozens of close quarter gunfights to his record. The fastest way to aim a semi-automatic handgun is not even with the sights it's using one of the top edges of the frame. First one to get a hit wins. Trade your gadget budget for some solid training. Perfect practice makes perfect. Try finding that dot during stress-under-fire, one-handed off-axis shooting or shooting on the run.
I talked mom just got the xmacro. It feels much better to her than her Glock17. I like the grip much better than my 365XL as well. Within a minute i put my slide on the xmacro grip. This is the way. I found the grip online for like 50$.
Unfortunately they probably won't put the slide up for sale for a bit, hopefully it's a tad cheaper than the Specter comp slide. Reason being is that it would cost me nearly as much as the Specter comp slide if I were to buy all the parts needed to put a XL slide on my setup, and even more if I wanted the slide that keeps the rear sight dovetail. With these new slides I can keep my barrel, pick up the recoil spring and the slide and be done.
its for sale and in stock right now
If the mag availability is a bit better this would be golden
I have the Sig Sauer P365X with the Wilson Combat grip module and the Magguts kits and that reliability gives me 14+1 rounds and that’s perfect for me! It’s easily concealable and very comfortable to carry in my Tenicor Velo4 appendix holster! I honestly don’t see any reason to go with this new Sig, the only downside to mine is the loss of the rear sight when adding my optic!
Some of us are larger, larger and longer hands. That's probably a good reason to start. Lol
Esta x macro al ser compensada, envía la pólvora a la mira electrónica y esos puntos de pólvora queman el cristal de la mira hollosun?
Will you perfer the new 3.7” variance over this one with the comp?
What do you think of the Foxtrot 2? I'd be interested in seeing you review it.
So, I'm not a big dude and the P365XL is about the perfect size carry gun year-round. I want the Macro slide to drop onto my XL, I have to carry +P ammo if I want to be covered by my agency in the event of an off duty shooting. I'm thinking I might buy the Macro, swap slides so the XL has the Macro slide and the Macro frame has the XL slide, and use the full size gun as a home defense gun my wife could also use.
I've done exactly this, bought the Macro grip module + 2 mags for my P365xl
99% of the time I carry the XL, but at home I just swap it to the Macro grip in less than a minute.
I wonder if Aaron would pick the regular X Macro with 3.7” barrel and not comped or the 3.1” comped version reviewed here…
Who was the holster manufacturer that you mentioned at 5:48? The transcript jacked it up.
Just coming all the ways back full circle with this damn 365 line
I also have a g43x and they are the same size
What do you think about the platform without a safety like Glock trigger bar or 19/2011 grip safety? Would you worry about it going off when you don’t want it to like the reports on P320 (and carrying appendix)
Aaron, if you like this gun, you should check out the Arex Delta gen 2 X or L. Very similar dimensions, fully ambi.
It also fits safariland Glock holsters with 100% retention.
Wonder how it would feel with a full length ported p365xl barrel in it. Dont understand why sig didnt just go that route rather than the shorter barrel.