I am not a KTM fan, but that is the best sounding two stroke motocross bike I have ever heard, it makes great speed on the track, no flattening off or bogging!
Sounds crisp. Oooh la la. As everyone goes into electric motor frenzy, KTM says. "hold my beer" and throws innovation the way of the smokers! Thank you!
The AMA needs to make this displacement legal in the 450 class. And by that I mean 2 stroke displacement, the rules state you can only have a max of 250cc 2 stroke engine displacement in the 450 class.
So technically the expansion chamber of the 2T engine supercharges the engine at high rpm. The “hit” of a 2T engine is actually sound waves that compress a high volume of air/fuel into the cylinder. I’ve heard a 125cc actually packs in 188cc’s at the power and point.
When I saw that silencer I was expecting a tinny pc sound but mixed with those extra 50cc's gives her some real meat sounds unbelievable. Perfect bike.
AMAZING BIKE, thanks KTM I believe this guy is coming out of retirement!! This 2-STROKER is a 450 smoker! I love everything I've seen thank you KTM Team well done. 👍👍. District 11 50+ Masters Class, Winning Bike.
Might be time for me to get a 2 stroke! Ive been complaining about how outdated 2 strokes are but they knocked this out of the park, wonder if Yamaha will step up
The fucking Limiter on the 2 Bang!! 🤟. Not only that the TBI, Less Vibration, and a good in between of a 250 and 450 power to pull and power to no pull you off. But willing to the bike will rip. I was thinking about getting a YZ but this has changed my mind that wait is going to be so long 😭
I already ride a 150SX 2018 for 4 years, and I already order a 300SX 😍😍 it brings me back to my early MX days, 90's... alm of our, the Two strokers people, are happy. The only thing curious is the 8-10 kg plus weigh increase. Close to 100kg instead of 90-92kg of a carburetor KTM 2 stroke similar bike
i'd say if that bike would clear it he wouldve went for it. Looked to me like the rider is no slouch...makes me think he knew there wasnt enough motor. 2ts are for rock gardens, 4ts are for jumping over em lol
@@Corteum if i'm not mistaken, and someone correct me if im wrong, the jump face was different back then, not to mention Bubba is one in 100 million on a factory tuned machine. But to your point, absolutely that 300 "should" be able to clear it.
@@reedgalbraith6508 Yeah, leading the way. The first brand with electric start, hydraulic clutch, lightest 450, fuel injected 2-strokes, etc. KTM has been the winningest brand in supercross for the last decade--where have you been?
Stark Varg media event this week- many of the major motocross media personalities/testers attending. Doesn’t matter what they do with a 2 stroke or 4- electric motor is superior.
@@vitalmx “had to”not surprised- planned by KTM , the oems/ice will fight this change as they did with Tesla- and how is that working out?. Why did you move your schedule for KTM? Nothing new from KTM. The electric moto bikes are a benefit for the consumer- not as much for the manufacturer . Driving my Tesla model 3 for 4 years- just replaced the tires and cabin filter, plug it in every couple days at home. Handling and power superior to ice , no maintenance.
3:38 min mark: Guy on the 4stroke looks back and see him coming then cuts across the track to get out of the way.. Drive’s me bonkers because of how dangerous he made himself. Just hold your line always on the track and the better rider will make his way around you instead of creating a hazard like cutting Across the track to get out of the way of someone that will ride around you. Tsk tsk
The turn before is also WAY closer to the take off then back in the day. Jump is huge even with a long run at it but its insane out of a tight turn like it’s set up now. If the national is set up with the turn that close I bet only the top 10-15 guy on 450s do it and maybe only 1-2 guy on 250s even try it and won’t be able to do it consistently. Videos do the jump zero justice. It’s a absolutely sender!!
The ama should change those rules now that we know 4strokes have the advantage. This bike should be able to run in the 250 class and 500s in the450 class
Who’s the rider? This guy rips. JW841 is a nice dude, but I think this guy laps him in a 30min moto. New 300 sounds like it never stops pulling, just like the KTM 4Ts.
Been saying for years everywhere that allowing 300cc 2 stroke would make it easier and cheaper for privateers to build competitive bikes for the 450 class
@@human1513 I remember reading in a dirt bike magazine that there 500 was faster they said the 700 rev to slow . I think at the time they also made a 600. This was the older Design they sold to ATK Not sure if the ones are the same bike.
Very cool, I like it, still no match for a 450. Niche bike at best, not sure what KTM was thinking here. This coming from an old man that rides a KTM 2t woods bike. A 2t will NEVER be on par with a modern 450 on an MX track when the riders are of equal skill level. Jeremy McGrath on his KX500 will lose to Kevin Windham on his CRF450 every time. However, a 450 will never win a W.E.S.S. hard enduro event. * (unless Billy Bolt #BB57 switches to a 450) LOL
@@orijinalgamesta9738 The AMA and Feld should allow at least a 350 to 400cc. 2-stroke to race MX & SX against the 450 4-strokes, at least for us fans to enjoy better racing and I recall in 1998 til 2004 when the 250 2-strokes was racing and a lot of times beating the 400 & 426cc. Yamaha 4 strokes. Also whether a 350 to 400cc. or even a 450cc. 2-stroke could win against the 4-stroke 450's or not it would still make the sport a lot more interesting plus 2-strokes are great at getting hole shots more so than the 4-strokes.
I think the pro class should be an open class, run what you brung. None of the pros are running production bikes. The ones who did in the past lost. Except Shane Watts. I’m just saying. Oh yes and should have to run pump fuel ⛽️ and not from that one gas station near every town that sell 110 octane turbo blue…ugh
Here come all the children saying add this to the pro classes. A guy tried all year with a 2 stroke guys it didn’t happen they are fun for what they are but give it up already.
Stanke is his name and was behind on power of course not professor 🤣🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ had he been able to have a more fair cc displacement with the 450s you’d be eating your words seeing he made top 15 majority of the time and qualified once with a tc250 . Had he had another 200cc or even just 100 he’d for sure make top 10 and or better .
@@_WatsoBrii94_ he wouldn’t but keep thinking that way and he only made top 15 as you say once and was 19th he only made the night show one time which is the top 22 guys
@@_WatsoBrii94_ well your wrong for a start because he was in one of the regional 250 championships on a 125 and he's never done any good on whatever bike he's been on he's not good enough lol if one of the top boys where on a 300 in the big group wich is what we are talking about then the power would be a bit more fair
@@_WatsoBrii94_ the way a 2 stroke works is why they lost ability to be competitive. CCs don’t mean much guys can build 250s to have a ton of power 500s already start high and they are still not competitive. It’s about the way the power gets to the ground not the amount of it there is a reason we were all happy to switch back in the late 90s
I am not a KTM fan, but that is the best sounding two stroke motocross bike I have ever heard, it makes great speed on the track, no flattening off or bogging!
bike looks and sounds great, whoever is riding deserves some credit as well. absolutely sending it
Jacob Hayes
Can you only imagine 40 of those on that track! It looks like they knocked that one out of the park.
Sounds crisp. Oooh la la. As everyone goes into electric motor frenzy, KTM says. "hold my beer" and throws innovation the way of the smokers! Thank you!
Best comment of the thread 👏 👌
Yet another reason to love KTM
The AMA needs to make this displacement legal in the 450 class. And by that I mean 2 stroke displacement, the rules state you can only have a max of 250cc 2 stroke engine displacement in the 450 class.
Never happen. The Japanese cant have a two stroke beating their 4-strokes.
Exactly... Come on Feld make it happen!
Why not equal? 250 vs 250, 450 vs 450, if somebody wants to build one let them!
Yep, no way a 250 2-stroke is the equivalent of a 450 4-stroke. An equivalent would be 300 or 350.
So technically the expansion chamber of the 2T engine supercharges the engine at high rpm. The “hit” of a 2T engine is actually sound waves that compress a high volume of air/fuel into the cylinder. I’ve heard a 125cc actually packs in 188cc’s at the power and point.
It rips! Sounds crazy when it's in the rev limiter and no bog
my god this bike looks so rad
When I saw that silencer I was expecting a tinny pc sound but mixed with those extra 50cc's gives her some real meat sounds unbelievable. Perfect bike.
Dude who was making that 300 scream I haven’t seen one rung out like that in a long time. Nice job!!!
Jacob Hayes
@@vitalmx the guy rides and speaks well with knowledge, looks like a good bike tester for the future.
Yeah, I'm getting one!!
That needs to be legal to run in the 450 class. PLEASE
The EFI totally prevents any bogging. Awesome 🤘
AMAZING BIKE, thanks KTM I believe this guy is coming out of retirement!! This 2-STROKER is a 450 smoker! I love everything I've seen thank you KTM Team well done. 👍👍. District 11 50+ Masters Class, Winning Bike.
See you there
I don't think there were faster lap times than that all day. Holy crap
A Two-stroke lovers dream that wants to compete with the 450! I can’t wait to get my hands on this
I never heard it bog once. Good job Jacob... excellent job KTM!
Good track to let her sing on! Nothing but smooth straight aways, smooth corners, and smooth table tops! Smooth... 😎
That thing sounds awesome!
Looks like I know what I'm buying for my return to two stroke happiness. That thing rips.
Jeffrey herlings on 2 stroke ktm.!!! That fun to watch!
Fuel, air and RPM seem to be getting along together very well. I like the white plastic... now if were just 495cc.
the 500 kits are already available for them
Need to see this on a dyno soon!
Might be time for me to get a 2 stroke! Ive been complaining about how outdated 2 strokes are but they knocked this out of the park, wonder if Yamaha will step up
i was at a race a few weeks ago and told my friend i’d get a 2 stroke if ktm made a full injected, electric start 2 stroke… and here we are!
Gettin it at "RED BUUUUUD !"
I guess this needs to be said... RED BUDDDDD!!!
Feld level the playing field and let 300s + race moto & Sx already🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙏🏽
Man this makes me like ktm even more. They did a killer job!
No bogging down or sputtering all smooth
it sounds cleaner on bottom than the TPI, I have never liked the power delivery of TPI so I'm hopeful this TBI is closer to a carb.
Looks incredibly powerful
Well done ktm!
This new 300 sx is a rippa !!!!!
yeahh 2 stroke will never die!!!!
Now that's a dirtbike!!
AMA is Dweebs you know how much more ppl would go to see 300s race 450s
absolutely shredding after lap 1
Looks fast!
Love it!!
The fucking Limiter on the 2 Bang!! 🤟. Not only that the TBI, Less Vibration, and a good in between of a 250 and 450 power to pull and power to no pull you off. But willing to the bike will rip. I was thinking about getting a YZ but this has changed my mind that wait is going to be so long 😭
Yep. Buying one.
Good lord it's fast and responsive
Sound's Fast and Look's Fast .. Power of a Modified 250 cc from The Past .. .. 😁
fuck I can't wait to pick mine up, Hopefully they land before the estimated Oct date.
So sick
I'm in love
How does one ride either wide open, or nothing. No mid. Just insane!
I already ride a 150SX 2018 for 4 years, and I already order a 300SX 😍😍 it brings me back to my early MX days, 90's... alm of our, the Two strokers people, are happy. The only thing curious is the 8-10 kg plus weigh increase. Close to 100kg instead of 90-92kg of a carburetor KTM 2 stroke similar bike
Gotta get one
Make two strokes great again!
The 450 killer?!
Rev limiter?
If I had the bucks for it, I would by one!
Gotta triple up on Larocco's leap!
i'd say if that bike would clear it he wouldve went for it. Looked to me like the rider is no slouch...makes me think he knew there wasnt enough motor. 2ts are for rock gardens, 4ts are for jumping over em lol
@@orijinalgamesta9738 Seen plenty of lesser powered 2-strokes jump Larocco's leap. Bubba used to jump it on a 125. Not sure why a 300 can't handle it!
@@orijinalgamesta9738 If he got good drive out of the turn and pinned the throttle, he would've sailed right over that thing like an albatross.
@@Corteum if i'm not mistaken, and someone correct me if im wrong, the jump face was different back then, not to mention Bubba is one in 100 million on a factory tuned machine. But to your point, absolutely that 300 "should" be able to clear it.
@@orijinalgamesta9738 Seen sub300cc 2-strokes hop over that leap from the inside line, too. Love to see more vids!
Sounds like they increased the rev range and with a 300 still have bottom end.
Butter my biscuits I'm sold, good luck to them 450s.
I’m afraid I have to get one now lol can you preorder yet
I would start back watching motocross if more 2/strokes were racing
Soooo, is this Michael Lindsay riding this thing? He sure can ride!!!
There goes another hit to my bank account after watching this video.
She barks!
Every factory team should have two 2 stroke riders. Cutting the 450’s by 12 and leaving 12 gates for the top 12 2 strokes.
I believe this should be the new throttle body injection motor. Is it?
cue the efi and electric start haters lol
Who else was holding their breath at 1:49?
Once again KTM is leading the way. Apparently Honda, Kawi, etc. are too cowardly to get back into big bore 2-strokes.
2 strokes at all for that matter.
leading the way??😅😅😅 guess you haven't watched Supercross or outdoors. even the pros struggle with this orange junk😅😅
@@reedgalbraith6508 Counter: Suzuki 450
@@reedgalbraith6508 Yeah, leading the way. The first brand with electric start, hydraulic clutch, lightest 450, fuel injected 2-strokes, etc. KTM has been the winningest brand in supercross for the last decade--where have you been?
@@vintagetrikesandquads4012 be back in 2 months or so when outdoors is over..let's chit-chat..
I WANT😍
People use to say 4 strokes sounds like someone farting I think it's 2 strokes now lol
2 stroke rev limiters sound sickkk
limiter?
they don’t have one, they just kinda stay at an rpm lol
@@mileaux they have an electronic "rev limiter". Its programmed into the ecu. Jeez guys look stuff up sometime😂 My tpi bike does the same thing.
It just sounds like a two-stroke on pipe. What specific sound are we supposed to be hearing with the limiter?
@@bloomerb4162 ill listen and find a time stamp. He only revved it that high a couple times
Who’s riding ?
Jacob Hayes
Problem is four-strokers' race ruts prevail when two-strokers' race different lines.
I agree with this, at least outdoors
Stark Varg media event this week- many of the major motocross media personalities/testers attending. Doesn’t matter what they do with a 2 stroke or 4- electric motor is superior.
We all had to move our Stark schedules to attend this KTM launch.
@@vitalmx “had to”not surprised- planned by KTM , the oems/ice will fight this change as they did with Tesla- and how is that working out?. Why did you move your schedule for KTM? Nothing new from KTM. The electric moto bikes are a benefit for the consumer- not as much for the manufacturer . Driving my Tesla model 3 for 4 years- just replaced the tires and cabin filter, plug it in every couple days at home. Handling and power superior to ice , no maintenance.
@@travelingmike40 the Stark intro date we were going to got moved because of bike problems. We’ll be testing it soon.
@@vitalmx please dont
@@scott729 It's a dirtbike, we'll test it.
Why not clearing the leap?
KTM said no leap for the demo days
@@carverac I'm sorry this is America. You have the right to SEND IT.
We were not allowed to even attempt it pure KTM’s rules.
3:38 min mark: Guy on the 4stroke looks back and see him coming then cuts across the track to get out of the way.. Drive’s me bonkers because of how dangerous he made himself. Just hold your line always on the track and the better rider will make his way around you instead of creating a hazard like cutting Across the track to get out of the way of someone that will ride around you. Tsk tsk
For sure, I have think the same. Dangerous maneuvering
Yep hold your line!
Mike used to hit his leap on 125 and you're telling me a chalked test rider on a EFI 300 can't hit it
They were told they could not go for it. Kinda sucks they stopped them haha.
The turn before is also WAY closer to the take off then back in the day. Jump is huge even with a long run at it but its insane out of a tight turn like it’s set up now. If the national is set up with the turn that close I bet only the top 10-15 guy on 450s do it and maybe only 1-2 guy on 250s even try it and won’t be able to do it consistently. Videos do the jump zero justice. It’s a absolutely sender!!
The Leap is not the same as it was in Iron Mikes day.
KTM forbid anyone of us from doing it during the test. No one was allowed to attempt it.
@@vitalmx You guys have hands dont ya? Twist the throttle and hang on ..... ask for forgiveness later
The ama should change those rules now that we know 4strokes have the advantage. This bike should be able to run in the 250 class and 500s in the450 class
That’s stupid fast
No New sound for me. I've owned two KTM 300's since 05'. Even rode my 01' CR250R out of Gorman a few months ago, "Green Sticker " bike.
Who’s the rider? This guy rips. JW841 is a nice dude, but I think this guy laps him in a 30min moto. New 300 sounds like it never stops pulling, just like the KTM 4Ts.
Jacob Hayes, he’s recently joined our testing staff.
Been saying for years everywhere that allowing 300cc 2 stroke would make it easier and cheaper for privateers to build competitive bikes for the 450 class
Wish they made a 500
You can build one with a brc racing kit..
@@rcf3773 Nice, I'm going to look into that.
What about the 2023 Maico 700 2-stroke.Saw it on UA-cam. Kaplan America just unboxed 1.
@@human1513 I saw that also. But I think you have to get on a waiting list for those. And shipping is kind of sketchy.
@@human1513 I remember reading in a dirt bike magazine that there 500 was faster they said the 700 rev to slow . I think at the time they also made a 600. This was the older Design they sold to ATK Not sure if the ones are the same bike.
they need to go back to 2 stroke
Nice! For only $15000 you can have one :)
Fuck that was so wet.
What’s the point in building this awesome weapon if the AMA won’t let you race it?
Who’s the rider?
Jacob Hayes
Run in the 450 class you mean out run.
Very cool, I like it, still no match for a 450. Niche bike at best, not sure what KTM was thinking here. This coming from an old man that rides a KTM 2t woods bike. A 2t will NEVER be on par with a modern 450 on an MX track when the riders are of equal skill level. Jeremy McGrath on his KX500 will lose to Kevin Windham on his CRF450 every time. However, a 450 will never win a W.E.S.S. hard enduro event. * (unless Billy Bolt #BB57 switches to a 450) LOL
Please, step away from the drugs.
Go to the nearest hospital for treatment.
You are delusional.
@@SPCRacing1 meh, prove me wrong
@@orijinalgamesta9738 The AMA and Feld should allow at least a 350 to 400cc. 2-stroke to race MX & SX against the 450 4-strokes, at least for us fans to enjoy better racing and I recall in 1998 til 2004 when the 250 2-strokes was racing and a lot of times beating the 400 & 426cc. Yamaha 4 strokes. Also whether a 350 to 400cc. or even a 450cc. 2-stroke could win against the 4-stroke 450's or not it would still make the sport a lot more interesting plus 2-strokes are great at getting hole shots more so than the 4-strokes.
@@jeff40 oh I couldn’t agree more. If 2ts were back in MX i would start watching it again.
Displacement is not the only way to increase power. A 500cc 2 stroke being slower than a 450 around a track doesnt mean anything.
Daddy j walk
Not Jeff Walker. It’s Jacob Hayes.
@@vitalmx oh yeah j Hayes the man
That thing sounds angry.
I think the pro class should be an open class, run what you brung. None of the pros are running production bikes. The ones who did in the past lost. Except Shane Watts. I’m just saying. Oh yes and should have to run pump fuel ⛽️ and not from that one gas station near every town that sell 110 octane turbo blue…ugh
Here come all the children saying add this to the pro classes. A guy tried all year with a 2 stroke guys it didn’t happen they are fun for what they are but give it up already.
A guy thats a backmarker anyway?
Stanke is his name and was behind on power of course not professor 🤣🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ had he been able to have a more fair cc displacement with the 450s you’d be eating your words seeing he made top 15 majority of the time and qualified once with a tc250 . Had he had another 200cc or even just 100 he’d for sure make top 10 and or better .
@@_WatsoBrii94_ he wouldn’t but keep thinking that way and he only made top 15 as you say once and was 19th he only made the night show one time which is the top 22 guys
@@_WatsoBrii94_ well your wrong for a start because he was in one of the regional 250 championships on a 125 and he's never done any good on whatever bike he's been on he's not good enough lol if one of the top boys where on a 300 in the big group wich is what we are talking about then the power would be a bit more fair
@@_WatsoBrii94_ the way a 2 stroke works is why they lost ability to be competitive. CCs don’t mean much guys can build 250s to have a ton of power 500s already start high and they are still not competitive. It’s about the way the power gets to the ground not the amount of it there is a reason we were all happy to switch back in the late 90s
Hol' up....who riding that thing? All fox gear on a ktm...
@@smark2016 Reed rocks Astars now...Dungey being sneaky?
Jacob Hayes
Jacob Hayes is on our testing staff, he was the one onboard.
Ummm... Imagine this sound with a FMF muffler...
Most roads in California aren't that smooth!
fuck please put a review out everyone wants to hear what up with that 300
never ever a ktm!
AMA NOT THINKING RIGHT IT WILL ALL GOAWAY SONE ANYWAY .🤨
Watching a pro ride a bike does nothing for the consumer choosing what bike to buy.
We have opinion pieces coming out on this bike, this was just a quick thing to throw up to entertain / hype up people. It’s freaking cool!
over revving