My father installed mini splits in his 60x80. 12k all said and done. Cannot here them running and it’s perfect temp year round. Also has a Reznor propane furnace for backup or if he wants to adjust temp quickly.
Just go with forced air heat and cooling, it'll be cheaper to install and easier to fix, plus you can keep your shop cold, come in, turn the heat on and be warm in less than half an hour, with in floor heat, same thing would take couple days
Just do two separate systems. Just did a 60x80 and radiant heat in floor and two air conditioners. I live in oklahoma so it gets hotter here. I did geothermal for my radiant heat. It was easy did it myself.
You've clearly done your homework and I think you're arriving at the right decision. Up here where you used to live (the Northeast) I think you'd get far more value out of radiant floor heat as you would down there. The ductwork is all going to be there since you're running A/C (which is more important to you), so you may as well take advantage and run the forced air heat as well. Especially if you insulate well, it will do the job for you.
Greg, regarding the heating /cooling of the new shop did you consider sectioning with dividing walls to acclimate smaller parts? You could put radiant heat in one or two bays and cool the rest. Good luck with whatever you decide.
Yes! I am currently building on the west coast of Canada and it was so nice to hear your 2 cents about in floor heat. Everyone always loves to say it is cheap and easy and whatever but I feel even up here what you are saying still rings true - it costs soooo much money for in floor heat! What everyone is actually saying is they love it, its so nice, and let me justify it to you why I spent the money - OR they just heard it's cheap and have no idea. I also just ran 300' of trenched line - we did power, water, and telecom (internet). You could do it yourself, but if you do , it is easy to dig a hole, hard to dig a clean hole and have minimal clean up. Best of luck!
Seeing a building go up is one of the coolest things. I'm so glad I don't have to do that daily as my job (its a lot of work) but it's so exciting! I was gone the week my shop was built and I was still so excited to see update pictures every day.
Dream shop right there man! Do a lean-to on the side for the enclosed. Have your utility room closed off in the back and a door to the lean-to and the garage.
Greg if you haven't ordered door's yet I would absolutely go with roll up door's. They can be made were they are fairly good looking. As for the hvac at least add the loops for the floor. You can always add it on later.
Heated an cooled floor plus A/C. Building temp control will benefit from the two walls about half underground-already on your way to geothermal. Solar is an option. I know a guy who can quote the solar install turn key out of Louisville if interested. Have been concerned about the 14’ doors since the start of this. We have 15’ doors in our shop for the class 8 trucks. Not sure the R value of available roll up doors. Traditional overhead might be better with climate control. Overall, this is awesome! Looking fwd to seeing next steps and finished product.
Congrats the shop looks great, for what it's worth I totally get you on the a.c part of it, summer temps for me can be 100° for weeks straight, and CV low teens for weeks to months, that being said I'd save the money on floor heat.
I work underground construction and I know that if you had someone use a directional drill to run your power lines up to the shop it wouldn’t be very expensive and it would be a very simple job for them! Plus you could keep from having to open trench the whole thing and digging up your property!
You probably do the most thorough research of anyone I know.......I'm sure whatever you decide will have good reasoning behind it. Everyone has opinions but it's YOUR shop.
Nice looking shop! I would highly recommend roll up doors instead of your traditional tracked style garage doors. By using roll up doors you don’t loose any lighting from inside your shop if you have any of your doors open. Plus they are less maintenance.
I agree with you go with the for forced air conditioning and heating radiant heating is good for people that live in the North such as I your cement flooring will never go below zero or below 32 Fahrenheit what I do suggest is put insulation under your cement keep the humidity and cold down in winter and vice versa in summertime good luck
Personally, I would focus on a/c the shop. If you were more north where you would see a lot of freezing cold weather and snow, then I would say yes. With the heated floors, you have to completely plan out where everything goes that anchors into the concrete.
I would do infrared tube heat. Price is not bad. With that you heat everything up so when you open them big doors you don’t lose all your heat. With forced air you lose that heat opening doors and takes a long time to catch back up. Just my two cents. Building looks great!!
Nice radiant heat is great if you live up where I do it’ll melt your truck and equipment off on the snows on a lot faster but if you don’t need it it’s cheaper to do other things
I do radiant heat for a living, it is expensive, but I’ve never had a customer regret doing it. Once the concrete is poured there is no going back. You should do the insulation and put the tubing in.
That’s why a lot of your truck shops have 16’ tall doors. Due to normally the concrete slab inside the building is taller than the outside slab, and the doors don’t normally completely open to a true 14’ or 16’.
@@precisiondiesel225 I was talking about the inside slab if you look how his pipes just barely cleared that bottom board he pours a 6 inch slab if he’s putting a lift in there the pipes are not going to clear
I would definitely build some kind of over hang on the left side to break it up but don't screw yourself on the parking. That is a mint spot to park the big trailer. There is something about the smell of dirt, concrete & wood that i love. Check out the heat pumps, the new shit that is ac & heat.
With the amount of concrete that will be in that shop truthfully with proper insulation you really won’t need a huge ac unit. Tbh a few split units would suffice. Concrete as a portion of the wall will honestly keep the shop very cool
You will want radiant heat of some sort. You don’t lose all your heat when pulling something in because radiant heats the objects unlike convection heat. Also don’t have to run a blower fan. We have 2 40’ tube heaters in my 50x80 farm shop in NE. Typically only have one of them on and it’s comfortable to me set at 58* working
NO Radiant Floor based on your location. Heat Pump with Propane Gas backup is all you need. Just built my new shop, and I'm just slight north of you, and this is the route I went, it's GREAT!
Buddy of mine has a 40x60 with 16 foot ceiling. Very well insulated and runs a single 24,000 ductless heat pump. Which heats and cools. Works phenomenal. I was completely against it. But. I wouldn’t do it any other way. Prolly take a couple head units for shop your size Greg. But ductless heat pump very quiet very cost effective. And probably never heard of in yer neck of the woods.
I don't have a shop that big but live north maybe 80 miles north ,400 miles west been in single digits last week, like you I need the air more than the heat and I do both like you do as far as I am concerned that's the best deal, I has natural gas but the high efficiency inverters work great in the new heat pumps scrap the floor heat stay with the type you have. Faithful You Tube follower.
Sounds like you are looking for approval for going the smart money way...you have my approval lol. Shop looks great can’t wait to see the builds come out of it.
Hello, Currently have a 36x60x18. I used propane forced air for heat and dehumidifier for summer. Most important to me is dry air in SE PA. Building a 60x96x18 sticking with the same systems. I use less then 500 gallons of propane a year for house and garage. I cant justify radiant heat in the floor per system cost and use cost.
I hope one day to have a shop like that for my big rig I wanna start redoing my truck soon it would make it much easier I’ve been following you through your Pete build I just started a Channel
Have you looked at geothermal heat and cooling? Its a sealed system and is run the same as the heated floors. And all you run is a pump. It is a well that has to be drilled or a large run around the property.
I personally like radiant tube heaters. Cheap, nice heat. Got a 54x92 with them and I like them. But I’m in northern Alberta and natural gas is cheap for us. Worked in many shops with in floor hot water heat and I didn’t like it. Slow to recover from having the doors opened in the middle of winter.
With "In-Floor" systems , you can also circulate Cold Water in the summer to help your A/C system , this takes a lot of the cost of operating the A/C away . Yes, the "In-Floor is an expence , but can be beneficial in this way . You can also plan your system so that the placement of the tubing is easily located in the future , but you can also place it with the possibility of future placement of such things as post lifts and their locations can be anticipated . One of the biggest advantages of these systems is using the concrete as "Thermal Mass" which literally "Stores Heat or Cold" so that the system , after initial "Start-Up" the temperature is easy , and economical to maintain , where the thickness of the slab needs to be considered and this is an easy and common calculation . The more options that you consider in planning the better , so that the final outcome will suit Your situation , and in most cases leads to better resale value , if it ever comes to that . Good Luck . It's looking GOOD !
I have worked in a shop with the in floor heating and its nice. This is my opinion but the one drawback is with the temp changing so much from one day to the next, it takes a while to cool down. 15 one day then 50 the next, hard to keep the temp at a decent working range. At least forced air if you are cold you just turn it up and in a matter of a few minutes there is warm air circulating. Good luck either way.
Hey man you should look into running a steal cable down to ur wrap around and catch that corner and brace it the right way and u won't need a post right in the way
We have heated floors on our shop we live up north the one thing that could persuade you into puting heated floors in is the dry time, maybe think about doing up 1 bae front to back and having a nice wash bay I definitely understand the cost is extremely high to put them in but if you did 1 bay with a electric hot water heater you could have warm water heating the floor up to dry it faster and have warm water for the washing the trucks, little long winded but I hope ya get what I'm saying. gods speed! Love what your doing man!
I see your porch dilemma, I agree with the small mechanical space in the back, but is a porch necessary? That is going to sacrifice a lot of parking and your drive-able space will feel small quick. There is plenty of space to lounge/chill at the house no?
Build it the way your want greg! I'd come trade labor for a ride in the 05 if I was closer. If you need someone to come climb trees and remove them I can do that! 🤣
Outdoor wood furnace for infloor? Friend has it running house, shop, and pool. Do whatever makes sense. Heat pumps geothermal, can do both what and cool
Also I would ask around for a horizontal driller and they can drill 1 1/4 inch conduct in the ground to the shop then u can run power through it. Thats how we do it in utah
I like your idea on just putting the tubes and insulate in the floor and if you decide to use it then you don’t but once you pore the concrete there’s no going back
I think you are correct on the air part of it however I think you should at least put the tubing in the floor for a later date that you choose to finish it. You never know maybe propane will drop in price in your area in the future. Good luck and I love all your videos you share.
Awesome shop man all I had room for was a 30x40 but I make it work 2 post lift and a 4 post lift it always could be larger but then I would just put more crap in it lol
I would put an oil room and a compressor room on the side.....having those out of your shop is safer and more room in the shop.......as for air or heat....had a shop I built in Portland, TN just down the street from you....I would choose the Air Conditioning......never needed the heat
Make sure your concrete floors are thick enough for all those lifts you are going to install. It needs to be fairly thick. Usually a minimum of 7 inches.
With the thought of using spray foam you’ll have an issue with it not bonding to the bubble wrap. The Tyvek house wrap would’ve been better. The porous design of the wrap allows the foam to bond. Where as the bubble wrap will peel away. I have been a foam applicator for 10yrs and can answer any questions you may have.
As far as the porch, just and the framing in the walls now. Then when you decide to add the porch, all you have to do is cut the steel out wherever you new plate will be. No need to mess with anything inside
Yo Greg, that shop is definitely goals. Definitely with you on the forced air heat. Once you put the tubes in the floor you'll have to most likely give up the idea of lifts or even a possible crane in the future. Merry Christmas Greg A and fam 🎄
even just insulating the sides of the concrete where exposed to the air will help with heat loss but insulated concrete will lower you heating bill overall as concrete also holds heat
Your right in questioning every thing . Also , in order for "In Floor" to function most efficiently , the slab needs to be properly Insulated and Isolated . For example , those concrete walls would suck heat out of the floor by a 'Wicking Action" if the floor wasn't insulated and isolated from them . When this is done , in conjunction w/ground insulation , the slab Can and Will "Store" heat , or cold(in summer) . I hope this doesn't confuse you even further . '
Look, you can never go back after you build a slab. Insulate it and put in the pex. If you want to use it down the road it’ll be there, it’ll add value if you sell later too. Worst case you have an insulated floor lol
If the older shop is going to be strictly race truck shop, move the container and build a lean to off the building just for the black enclosed race trailer to park up under
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Congrats buddy, looks fantastic. Nothing like an nice big shop to get you motivated to build projects!
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You need to install roll up doors instead of garage type doors. It will improve your headroom tremendously. Just speaking from experience.
I was thinking the same thing, ParoDoXz did them in the shop he just built
Except the have 0 insulation value. Set up the tracks to go straight up and then across the ceiling, install side mount commercial opener.
My father installed mini splits in his 60x80. 12k all said and done. Cannot here them running and it’s perfect temp year round. Also has a Reznor propane furnace for backup or if he wants to adjust temp quickly.
I like infrared tube heaters hanging from the ceiling so you don’t need to deal with the noise of forced air.
You should try backing your gooseneck into the space now as it is to help decide what you want to do, cause that’s a really nice cove for a trailer
That is one of the best ideas I have heard
Greg, I have a friend that installed a used oil heater in his shop. You might want to look into one.
i was gonna say that too we have one at work works great
Greg uses amsoil, he doesn't change it enough to heat the shop lol
Yeah oil is the shit , shop at work stays at 60 all winter go threw about 7-800 gallons of oil , cheap!
@@Straight6Addict let ur friends change their oil there as long as they dump waste oil in ur tank and im sure u can find waste oil at a decent price
@@jasonleal3732 yep, for free
Just go with forced air heat and cooling, it'll be cheaper to install and easier to fix, plus you can keep your shop cold, come in, turn the heat on and be warm in less than half an hour, with in floor heat, same thing would take couple days
you should make the air compressor room big enough to park frank in there so he not in the way and not in the weather
Completely agree. I don't understand why everyone wants to park a trailer there, it doesn't look like it snows 8 ft there that could damage trailers
Highly recommend putting couple lights in the floor in each bay. Definitely helps under a lift and so on.
Don’t over think it Greg! Do what you know will benefit you in the long run
Make sure you put a bathroom in the shop
Just do two separate systems. Just did a 60x80 and radiant heat in floor and two air conditioners. I live in oklahoma so it gets hotter here. I did geothermal for my radiant heat. It was easy did it myself.
Pics of the shop?
You've clearly done your homework and I think you're arriving at the right decision. Up here where you used to live (the Northeast) I think you'd get far more value out of radiant floor heat as you would down there. The ductwork is all going to be there since you're running A/C (which is more important to you), so you may as well take advantage and run the forced air heat as well. Especially if you insulate well, it will do the job for you.
Greg, regarding the heating /cooling of the new shop did you consider sectioning with dividing walls to acclimate smaller parts? You could put radiant heat in one or two bays and cool the rest.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Yes! I am currently building on the west coast of Canada and it was so nice to hear your 2 cents about in floor heat. Everyone always loves to say it is cheap and easy and whatever but I feel even up here what you are saying still rings true - it costs soooo much money for in floor heat! What everyone is actually saying is they love it, its so nice, and let me justify it to you why I spent the money - OR they just heard it's cheap and have no idea. I also just ran 300' of trenched line - we did power, water, and telecom (internet). You could do it yourself, but if you do , it is easy to dig a hole, hard to dig a clean hole and have minimal clean up. Best of luck!
Seeing a building go up is one of the coolest things. I'm so glad I don't have to do that daily as my job (its a lot of work) but it's so exciting! I was gone the week my shop was built and I was still so excited to see update pictures every day.
Dream shop right there man! Do a lean-to on the side for the enclosed. Have your utility room closed off in the back and a door to the lean-to and the garage.
Greg if you haven't ordered door's yet I would absolutely go with roll up door's. They can be made were they are fairly good looking.
As for the hvac at least add the loops for the floor. You can always add it on later.
For our 40' by 70' we put 4" foam under the floor. Best thing we found was used foam sheets off a roof and got a wicked deal on it.
Have any pics of the shop? About how much did it run you give or take?
Heated an cooled floor plus A/C. Building temp control will benefit from the two walls about half underground-already on your way to geothermal. Solar is an option. I know a guy who can quote the solar install turn key out of Louisville if interested. Have been concerned about the 14’ doors since the start of this. We have 15’ doors in our shop for the class 8 trucks. Not sure the R value of available roll up doors. Traditional overhead might be better with climate control. Overall, this is awesome! Looking fwd to seeing next steps and finished product.
Do the spray foam before you fill your shop with tools and stuff!!!!
Congrats the shop looks great, for what it's worth I totally get you on the a.c part of it, summer temps for me can be 100° for weeks straight, and CV low teens for weeks to months, that being said I'd save the money on floor heat.
Your thoughts on air/heat discussion is spot on. Good luck with everything.
I work underground construction and I know that if you had someone use a directional drill to run your power lines up to the shop it wouldn’t be very expensive and it would be a very simple job for them! Plus you could keep from having to open trench the whole thing and digging up your property!
The lights and wiring will be costly enough. Roll up doors the way to go.
Why not have roll up doors instead of track doors? They have auto roll up doors, it would save some overhead space for sure
Do the raident tubing. Then look at waste oil boiler down the road.
You probably do the most thorough research of anyone I know.......I'm sure whatever you decide will have good reasoning behind it. Everyone has opinions but it's YOUR shop.
Heated floors are necessary for any proper shop, you won't regret it! Geothermal heating is cheap...
Nice looking shop! I would highly recommend roll up doors instead of your traditional tracked style garage doors. By using roll up doors you don’t loose any lighting from inside your shop if you have any of your doors open. Plus they are less maintenance.
True, but the roll up doors that you’re suggesting, don’t hold up well to high winds or strong wind gust.
@@precisiondiesel225 if you buy the heavier ones they will. They are not cheap but IMO they are worth it.
I think you’re spot on with the air and heating in the shop Greg!
I agree with you go with the for forced air conditioning and heating radiant heating is good for people that live in the North such as I your cement flooring will never go below zero or below 32 Fahrenheit what I do suggest is put insulation under your cement keep the humidity and cold down in winter and vice versa in summertime good luck
Personally, I would focus on a/c the shop. If you were more north where you would see a lot of freezing cold weather and snow, then I would say yes. With the heated floors, you have to completely plan out where everything goes that anchors into the concrete.
I would do infrared tube heat. Price is not bad. With that you heat everything up so when you open them big doors you don’t lose all your heat. With forced air you lose that heat opening doors and takes a long time to catch back up. Just my two cents. Building looks great!!
Nice radiant heat is great if you live up where I do it’ll melt your truck and equipment off on the snows on a lot faster but if you don’t need it it’s cheaper to do other things
Shop is coming together. Can't wait to see it finished.
I do radiant heat for a living, it is expensive, but I’ve never had a customer regret doing it. Once the concrete is poured there is no going back. You should do the insulation and put the tubing in.
Use solar and forget about it for 30/40 years...
A friend of mine just built a 71x82 shop here in Central Illinois he went with the infrared tube heaters and he's very pleased!
I don’t think your exhaust pipes on your Peterbilt are going to clear after you pour a slab
That’s why a lot of your truck shops have 16’ tall doors. Due to normally the concrete slab inside the building is taller than the outside slab, and the doors don’t normally completely open to a true 14’ or 16’.
@@precisiondiesel225 I was talking about the inside slab if you look how his pipes just barely cleared that bottom board he pours a 6 inch slab if he’s putting a lift in there the pipes are not going to clear
@@precisiondiesel225 Unless he digs the floor down and sinks the cement slab further down
Looked way to close backing in to me also...
The pipes are barely legal limit or a tad over, he said in the install video they’d be cutting them down some
I would definitely build some kind of over hang on the left side to break it up but don't screw yourself on the parking. That is a mint spot to park the big trailer. There is something about the smell of dirt, concrete & wood that i love. Check out the heat pumps, the new shit that is ac & heat.
Greg do 16 foot doors and on the right side do 16 foot porch so you can put anything under it and it will still look awesome!!!
With the amount of concrete that will be in that shop truthfully with proper insulation you really won’t need a huge ac unit. Tbh a few split units would suffice. Concrete as a portion of the wall will honestly keep the shop very cool
You will want radiant heat of some sort. You don’t lose all your heat when pulling something in because radiant heats the objects unlike convection heat. Also don’t have to run a blower fan. We have 2 40’ tube heaters in my 50x80 farm shop in NE. Typically only have one of them on and it’s comfortable to me set at 58* working
NO Radiant Floor based on your location. Heat Pump with Propane Gas backup is all you need.
Just built my new shop, and I'm just slight north of you, and this is the route I went, it's GREAT!
Buddy of mine has a 40x60 with 16 foot ceiling. Very well insulated and runs a single 24,000 ductless heat pump. Which heats and cools. Works phenomenal. I was completely against it. But. I wouldn’t do it any other way. Prolly take a couple head units for shop your size Greg. But ductless heat pump very quiet very cost effective. And probably never heard of in yer neck of the woods.
I don't have a shop that big but live north maybe 80 miles north ,400 miles west been in single digits last week, like you I need the air more than the heat and I do both like you do as far as I am concerned that's the best deal, I has natural gas but the high efficiency inverters work great in the new heat pumps scrap the floor heat stay with the type you have. Faithful You Tube follower.
Sounds like you are looking for approval for going the smart money way...you have my approval lol. Shop looks great can’t wait to see the builds come out of it.
‘That’s pretty much it’ says Greg A with 10 minutes left in the video. 🤣😂
Hello,
Currently have a 36x60x18. I used propane forced air for heat and dehumidifier for summer. Most important to me is dry air in SE PA. Building a 60x96x18 sticking with the same systems. I use less then 500 gallons of propane a year for house and garage. I cant justify radiant heat in the floor per system cost and use cost.
I hope one day to have a shop like that for my big rig I wanna start redoing my truck soon it would make it much easier I’ve been following you through your Pete build I just started a Channel
Have you looked at geothermal heat and cooling? Its a sealed system and is run the same as the heated floors. And all you run is a pump. It is a well that has to be drilled or a large run around the property.
you should put a deck where you want your overhang. nice rocking chair with the sun beating on you with a cold one.
As long as you have ceiling fans in the shop, your ac/heat forced air will definitely work. Weather in your area isnt like what most are used to.
You need to get the roll up garage door, it’ll save you a lot of space and it looks better.
I personally like radiant tube heaters. Cheap, nice heat. Got a 54x92 with them and I like them. But I’m in northern Alberta and natural gas is cheap for us. Worked in many shops with in floor hot water heat and I didn’t like it. Slow to recover from having the doors opened in the middle of winter.
That tractor barley clears that header for the door and there’s no slab yet. 16’ door dude
He’s still gotta cut his stack down. It’s over the legal height currently.
@@MechanicalMafioso How tall are those things before cut down?
@@MechanicalMafioso legal height is 13.6, I’d still slam up 16 footers
Do the porches during the build, not only cheaper but it falls under the same permit. The inspection can be done at the same time as the slab.
Looks grate only suggestion I have is put steel on the ceiling and blow insulation in the space it will help so much when you heat the building
With "In-Floor" systems , you can also circulate Cold Water in the summer to help your A/C system , this takes a lot of the cost of operating the A/C away . Yes, the "In-Floor is an expence , but can be beneficial in this way . You can also plan your system so that the placement of the tubing is easily located in the future , but you can also place it with the possibility of future placement of such things as post lifts and their locations can be anticipated . One of the biggest advantages of these systems is using the concrete as "Thermal Mass" which literally "Stores Heat or Cold" so that the system , after initial "Start-Up" the temperature is easy , and economical to maintain , where the thickness of the slab needs to be considered and this is an easy and common calculation . The more options that you consider in planning the better , so that the final outcome will suit Your situation , and in most cases leads to better resale value , if it ever comes to that . Good Luck . It's looking GOOD !
Get ya a small package unit for your hvac and put it out back. Run ductwork up the back of the building. Have your trunk line run across the ceiling.
I have worked in a shop with the in floor heating and its nice. This is my opinion but the one drawback is with the temp changing so much from one day to the next, it takes a while to cool down. 15 one day then 50 the next, hard to keep the temp at a decent working range. At least forced air if you are cold you just turn it up and in a matter of a few minutes there is warm air circulating. Good luck either way.
Awesome video and great looking shop. Have you ever looked into that geothermal type heating? That is supposed to be very efficient.
Hey man you should look into running a steal cable down to ur wrap around and catch that corner and brace it the right way and u won't need a post right in the way
Greg has a pool and didn't invite no one. Lame
We have heated floors on our shop we live up north the one thing that could persuade you into puting heated floors in is the dry time, maybe think about doing up 1 bae front to back and having a nice wash bay I definitely understand the cost is extremely high to put them in but if you did 1 bay with a electric hot water heater you could have warm water heating the floor up to dry it faster and have warm water for the washing the trucks, little long winded but I hope ya get what I'm saying. gods speed! Love what your doing man!
I see your porch dilemma, I agree with the small mechanical space in the back, but is a porch necessary? That is going to sacrifice a lot of parking and your drive-able space will feel small quick. There is plenty of space to lounge/chill at the house no?
Yeah there are other ways to break up the look. That is a lot of space to sacrifice for a corner no one sees.
Shop looks awesome so far
Ive installed little electric boilers for infloor heat in building ive piped just a thought you could do electrical instead of propane
or wood burners
Build it the way your want greg! I'd come trade labor for a ride in the 05 if I was closer. If you need someone to come climb trees and remove them I can do that! 🤣
It’s your shop you can build it your way and put what ever you want to put in your shop
Outdoor wood furnace for infloor? Friend has it running house, shop, and pool. Do whatever makes sense. Heat pumps geothermal, can do both what and cool
you cant beat in floor heating with the pex and a hot water tank super simple and easy
Put the container in the back corner, under the wrap around and use it for the tool room and storage. It will open up the shop for floor work space.
Also I would ask around for a horizontal driller and they can drill 1 1/4 inch conduct in the ground to the shop then u can run power through it. Thats how we do it in utah
I like your idea on just putting the tubes and insulate in the floor and if you decide to use it then you don’t but once you pore the concrete there’s no going back
I think you are correct on the air part of it however I think you should at least put the tubing in the floor for a later date that you choose to finish it. You never know maybe propane will drop in price in your area in the future. Good luck and I love all your videos you share.
Your shop you build it the way you want it .
You got it fork lift for shunting is your best bet! Have you cake and eat it too!
Merry Christmas
It might be a bit of investment Greg, but Solar panels might be a good idea since you are thinking forced AC/ heat.
Is the peterbuilt even going to fit with concrete under it
Awesome shop man all I had room for was a 30x40 but I make it work 2 post lift and a 4 post lift it always could be larger but then I would just put more crap in it lol
I like the idea of used oil heaters they pay for themselves and it’s a environmentally safer way to get rid of your oil
I would put an oil room and a compressor room on the side.....having those out of your shop is safer and more room in the shop.......as for air or heat....had a shop I built in Portland, TN just down the street from you....I would choose the Air Conditioning......never needed the heat
What’s your Plan for Lighting Greg? I remember the lights you had in your Rental shop and those were LEGIT!
See if you can tie the heated floor in to the the ac unit or use a hybrid water heater for the heated floor
Looks awesome. Great progress so far! Keep them vids coming Greg👍🏻
Leave the corner open and shorten the front if you have to , two separate overhangs. It won’t look quite as nice but it would be much more useful.
Where would they put the unit. Behind the building or on the right side where you want the utility closet and parking space for the trailer.
Make sure your concrete floors are thick enough for all those lifts you are going to install. It needs to be fairly thick. Usually a minimum of 7 inches.
With the thought of using spray foam you’ll have an issue with it not bonding to the bubble wrap. The Tyvek house wrap would’ve been better. The porous design of the wrap allows the foam to bond. Where as the bubble wrap will peel away. I have been a foam applicator for 10yrs and can answer any questions you may have.
You could prep the floor for radiant heat, then install the furnace at a later date. Just an idea.
You should look in to a waste oil burner. Go around to shops in the area and see if you can set up something woth them to get their used oil
As far as the porch, just and the framing in the walls now. Then when you decide to add the porch, all you have to do is cut the steel out wherever you new plate will be. No need to mess with anything inside
Sounds like you have it figured out. Forced air is a great choice
Yo Greg, that shop is definitely goals. Definitely with you on the forced air heat. Once you put the tubes in the floor you'll have to most likely give up the idea of lifts or even a possible crane in the future. Merry Christmas Greg A and fam 🎄
even just insulating the sides of the concrete where exposed to the air will help with heat loss but insulated concrete will lower you heating bill overall as concrete also holds heat
Your right in questioning every thing . Also , in order for "In Floor" to function most efficiently , the slab needs to be properly Insulated and Isolated . For example , those concrete walls would suck heat out of the floor by a 'Wicking Action" if the floor wasn't insulated and isolated from them . When this is done , in conjunction w/ground insulation , the slab Can and Will "Store" heat , or cold(in summer) . I hope this doesn't confuse you even further .
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Look, you can never go back after you build a slab. Insulate it and put in the pex. If you want to use it down the road it’ll be there, it’ll add value if you sell later too. Worst case you have an insulated floor lol
If the older shop is going to be strictly race truck shop, move the container and build a lean to off the building just for the black enclosed race trailer to park up under