I've retaken the testing a bunch hoping I'd get something other than INTP. Not sure why, it wont change anything. I will still be the socially awkward outcast hiding in my nerd cave.
@ginaintegrityseeker I have tabs that I have opened last year. Can't close it. It has be to be there. When I shut down the computer, I let the OS send the TERM signal to all apps. so when I restart, and re-open the apps, everything is restored as if they had been closed improperly. If not, I have my History (currently "19 tabs open")
TRULY THE WORSE! Especially when your record is listening to them without interrupting no matter what’s been said. The receptivity and reciprocity is rare.
huh .. im an INTP and i care so much about timing i actually like being too early to wrok or a date or anything i just cant stand waiting for something/someone therefor i hate being late and making others wait
Smygle Also an Intp, I agree I like to be on time when waiting to meet with someone because I never want someone to wait on me. That being said when it comes to due dates and deadlines they don’t exist for me and I always wait for the last minute or turn it in late.
My most common fear/anxiety as an INTP is making decisions. I enjoy all of the research and exploration involved in finding possible solutions and evaluating the pros/cons of those solutions but that's where my fun and (ideally) involvement ends. If I could just package up a bunch of possibilities and send them on their way to whomever wants to make the decision I'd be satisfied - _I_ don't get satisfaction necessarily from seeing a solution through. I think part of it is also the fear of accountability for any decision that turns out badly. I don't want my credibility with others to be diminished if something goes wrong and have them not trust my input in the future. That's a really scary prospect for me but also a sort of conceptual-perfectionism that I (and probably INTPs in general) struggle with and have to accept if I want to grow personally and be effective externally. Side note: Having a strong Te-user in your life to help you predict and measure the effectiveness of your ideas is really useful!
I, too, enjoy the process a little too much. As I got older, I have noticed that all the research and pondering didn’t go nowhere, especially the more practical subject matters. When I decide, it’s made faster with little buyer’s remorse.
this. "I think part of it is also the fear of accountability for any decision that turns out badly. I don't want my credibility with others to be diminished if something goes wrong and have them not trust my input in the future."
One of my intps will regularly ask for opinions or 'what shall I do?' in situations, and this really helps me to understand why! I (not intp) personally really really dislike making decisions for other people, but I will swallow that feeling and try and help her out. So thank you for that insight.
this is so accurate. sometimes I found myself avoiding things that make me emotional, sad songs, movies, books, etc. my mind is forcing myself to be logical and try not to let emotions get the best of me...
Same here. I even started to avoid the romantic things since elementary school. I prefer to read encyclopedias and adventure books rather than a fantasy novel about princess and fairytales. Haha
Man, getting deeply frustrated about being "irredeemably human" and "a creature with physical needs" hit home hard! ~Sincerely yours, not an INTP (ENTJ)
ENFJ's and ENTJ's experience a somewhat similar (but also somewhat different) thing due to Si POLR. I think they have a hard time acknowledging that pushing through with Se will not help and is not always wise, but rather a more calm and balanced "Si approach "is required
@@PowerRedBullTypology the issue with Si is a bit different. It is not a matter of choosing to ignore it deliberately. It is more like "Oh, Si! Yea, I can do Si! If anything, from this moment on I declare to focus on it, nurture it and be aware of it!... (hit on a head from "nowhere") oh, fuck... oh, FUCK... (blackout) 🤷♀️🤦♀️
As an INTP, I think my biggest fear is communicating my emotions and feelings. However, this only happens after: 1. I realize that I'm feeling something and I can name what I am feeling 2. I figure out why I am feeling that way 3. I rationalize that it is okay to feel that way (or I don't accept it) 4. Figure out if I need to change how I feel 5. If I believe that my feelings are bad, I would either a) Try to suppress them b) Try to change circumstances surrounding emotions If (a) doesn't work well (or has been going on for more than a year), I will then try communication. And when communication doesn't go well, I'll just go back to (a). My second biggest fear is emotions and feelings to overwhelming me and affect my everyday life.
right on, though I've never listed the steps out like that. I tend to go with b, and refer to a as letting emotions go rather than suppressing them. If the same negative emotion (which I experience more as negative thought) re appears a few times, then I need to do something about it--convey it to another party or something. In any sort of relationship, it seems to me unfair not to convey something like that. Sharing feelings comes at great cost for the INTP, and unfortunately, my experience has been that other people don't really care what I am feeling. When they dismiss what I am sharing with them, their response strengthens my reticence to share in the future, and in fact my reticence to feel.
Based on a lot of the comments it seems like intp’s are spending a lot of their energy in resistance mode when it comes to feelings. I can imagine how that internal struggle would be. Feelings are the bodies physical reaction to how it interprets what it is sensing. You can’t control them, just as you can’t control your leg from moving when tapped below the patella, and you need to stop trying to control them. Manage them , but don’t control them. Know they will ebb and flow, come and go all on their own.
@@davidkepke1435 no energy spent here on resistance. That's a misunderstanding of how feelings work for at least this INTP. Did you see the vid where Nathan appears as an INTP's feelings and offers to talk with the INTP? The INTP's feelings don't want to talk either. That's closer to reality than the notion of resisting. Without any effort and without any apparent interval of time spent feeling a feeling, potential emotional response is submitted to T, which determines whether or not to engage in feeling.
Biggest fear is that I will die before I learn everything or get the things I want to get done. Being a professional procrastinator means I had better be blessed with an exceptionally long life span....
I have ADHD and possibly am on the autism spectrum and I deal with this too. The frustration is just another thing you have to deal with on top of it all. It's like I'm crying and I'm watching it from an outsider perspective and there's no reason for me to act like this but it's still happening.
INTP with a large helping of Tourettes syndrome, and a dash of Aspergers..... life wasn't easy, if it wasnt for the INTP part of me that enjoyed taking the challenges I suspect I would not have made it to the age of 66 yo.
Now just imagine being INTP _and_ female. Yes, I am aware that progesterone spikes in the luteal phase cause me to be irrationally emotional, irritable, and lower my frustration-tolerance. No, I cannot control it or stop it, even if I am aware of it in the moment. All I can do is intellectualize post-hoc. ...However, considering that I'm self-aware enough to notice these patterns, _and_ charitable enough to articulate them, perhaps one should take advantage of my remarkable consistency and self-awareness by remembering not to push my buttons when I've already warned them I'm likely to be irritable. If there were ever a time not to poke a caged bear with a stick and then act surprised when it growls, it would be then. So, Dear World, let's do each other a favor; spare me your stupidity and I'll spare you my wrath.
sister, you're making me laugh this morning. I've had that same thought sequence more than once. Actually, I have found out that some people kinda fear me, which is a bit troubling.
My biggest fears: 1) wasting time 2) not finishing most of the 70 open-ended projects I have going at any given moment, before I die 3) obsessing too much over the fact that I waste time obsessing over wasted time. (Fits right in with my procrastination skillset)
@@puj71 In my perspective... Complex topics are approachable. You don't know what a word is? Look it up. You don't understand a topic and want to? Spend a few nights researching it. Research and learning is our bread and butter-- or at least mine. Emotions often that lack the things we might otherwise snatch up and analyze, like a dense fog that comes out of nowhere, consumes everything in it's path, and moves in ways we can't predict or analyze when face to face with it. It seems impossible to NOT misstep with someone who is highly emotional and every once and a while, people often make poor decisions based on said feelings and are still surprised when it produces logical results, and every once and a while even we realize we've fallen prey to the guidance of illogical emotions. It's the epitome of all that is difficult to understand. Nuclear science. Quantum theory. The linguistic origins of some obscure language. The algorithmic functions used in encryption. Mineral classifications. It can all be analyzed. Why your friend keeps going back to her ex, however, can not. (At least, not in a satisfactory way.)
@@valej9387 Oh my gosh, you're such an INTP. As I know, what matters most to you gyys is knowledge. Well, INFPs may agree, but our goals is set more towards finding peace, and solving humanity's deepest problems. That's why we're stereotyped as hippies. Still, some of us may become fond of those. Same goes to INTPs, some may become psychologists and try to understand emotions and behaviors, those kinda stuff. Either way, INTPs have emotions too, even if it's hidden behind those shiny glass. It's just a question of preference, if something's caught your interest and you want to devote yourself to it.
I try to internalize the idea that if I don't get that done I'll be a failure and everyone will be smarter and better, so I'll just push through the huge desire of focusing on anything completely useless and get something done.
HOW PLEASE I'VE TRIED EVERY GOD DAMN TRICK IN THE BOOK ON HOW TO STOP PROCRASTINATING AND SOMETIMES IT WORKS FOR A WEEK THEN I FALL BACK TO MY NORMAL SHIT. PLEASE I AM STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP WITH DEADLINES I AM LITERALLY PROCRASTINATING RIGHT NOW.
My intp fears 1.the mental frameworks and structures i spent years building are ultimately fruitless 2. Rejection by the group because i did something i didnt even realise was wrong 3. Intellectual/physical liberty and the freedom to explore taken away by a suffocating xSTJ government 4. Being trapped in a sensory/real world job that doesnt allow me to use my Ne or Ti 5. My lifelong developed theories put out into the world become hijacked and used for corrupt ends Emotions are fine because they can be analysed until you can step outside of them. Observing them in myself I can see the biases that plague the rest of humanity X-D
You hit the nail on the head, especially when you said we don't look after our basic needs - I remember studying at uni and I forgot to eat for 14 hours and when I had to eat, I was annoyed 😂
Over here, people think you're pretentious if you dare talk like that. Then they project their own insecurities onto you and accuse you of trying to sound smart because they feel stupid.
Our lack of motivation to complete tasks, or procrastination, is the realest of all stereotypes about INTPs. I've always had interests in a lot of things and activities, and usually come up with the most interesting ideas in the group, but I can NOT, even if my life depends on it, complete a project and, BE SATISFIED WITH THE OUTCOME. I guess never being satified with the outcome, and always ending up feeling like "I could do way better" is one of the main reasons of my procrastinating habit. The other one is of course because if I am still able to do it just in time and still be the best among my peers, so why the heck not😁😁 -INTP
Too relatable. I can have with the best ideas, but not nail them down, but come up with some excellent details on parts of how to execute the idea while being absolutely clueless about the other parts, which leads me to not starting at all, or giving up halfway, or having no heart to pay full attention to the latter half of the project and end up knowing I could have done way better but couldn't have because I was unable to bring myself to that kind of devotion anyways.
Totally agree. I have realized I don't start things because I know it will ultimately be judged by my inner critic as not good enough. Trying to adopt the mantra of "Done is better than perfect."
@@jenniferk219 Good mantra. I have two myself. "Nothing good will happen if you don't make it happen." Bad things will, but not good things, not usually. And the other is "The way to get what you want [happiness] is to Go and Do."
Difficulty communicating and the fear of being misunderstood/ misinterpreted is indeed the issue I talk about most often. I struggle to translate my thoughts into intelligible speech in the normal flow of conversation, and even when I do, my careful word choice is often not read as such, but then people are bothered when I try to further clarify. Pls send help
I'm the same- a week ago, during class, we were discussing some topics, about social cognitive and stuff, and... I said things, that according to some pp are insensitive. In my head, it all sounded good and fine, yet, when my teacher answered me... I was like oh sht, I guess I messed up and until now I'm still thinking about it. lol (or maybe not). #helpINTP
a fear i have is not being unique enough, I have such a strong desire to be individualist and original that it frustrates me when someone copy’s what I’m doing even if I copied it from someone else in the first place
I’m an INTP enneagram 4w5 so I feel and think deeply. Accepting emotions is agonizing for me because my regular Fe grips keep on clouding my judgement and I hate it. Makes me irrational and out of control, especially when revealing my feelings to friends.
Alright but can we just appreciate the level of psychological insight this man has? Damn. I'm not too fond of the original MBTI. The INTP (me, who would have guessed?) is rather multidimensional, but other types, such as the ESFJ are broadly defined. I love how he is able to actually think about how different personality types think and direct their energy, instead of misusing them as a label. (Of course, comedic purposes are a different thing)
The scariest thought I can think of in this moment , that I can imagine is - not being true to myself, being dishonest about truth to myself....shudder. But of course this could never happen : ) English is not my strongest language, so I am hoping this is clearly written.
English isn't my mother tongue, but while I was in high school I excelled at it, but seeing all of the other INTPs and INTJs I feel like a beginner who can barely speak English. Watching this channel and reading the comment section led to many more words in my notebook kept for new vocabularies. I started college last week and now I feel inferior and humiliated for how bad my English is, so I'm going to try and improve as quickly as I could.
Hey Nathan, nice job designing those mugs, I didn’t know you were the artist - I am a fine arts professor and I actually always noticed how cool these designs were - so really cool
I agree. I’m a leftie too and I always liked piano because it’s one of the few instruments that I can play without having to think about being left handed. Having to buy a left handed specific instrument.
As a female INTP: I fear cooking. One, because it is stereotypically a girl's chore or duty. I can literally order that food. Anyway, also the inconsistency of knowing what the ingredient is for but can be used in so many ways. I prefer baking which I naturally avoid.
I remember a line manager once asking me how they should 'manage' me. I replied that they may as well ask me how they should construct a particle accelerator - such a complex question with such a complex answer. They responded with that blank stare that is so common when INTPs say things. I then said, "It's probably best to just leave me alone'. So one fear is people trying to 'manage' me
When once a managing broker asked me how I’m motivated: money, status, success…? I responded nearly identically and was met with the same deer-in-the-headlights stare. I find it endlessly satisfying that despite society’s best efforts, I can’t be pinned down.
my list: -Failure. i am afraid of failing because, i was relatively succesful then my peers and i was kind of a "gifted child" (but hell i am not) and my whole life i constructed my dreams, actions, relationships and most importantly my relationship with my own self on this "success" base and i feel like if i fail one single exam, my whole personality will collapse. by the way i am pretty sure my parents doesn't have a big impact on that they are pretty relaxed about academia and carrier stuff, i am not. 2-)being in a situation where i am have to deal with the dumb people in the place i live in, you have to serve some time in the army and the army is... well, the hell, it is full of average people, it is the most sensory place i have ever acknowledged and most importantly the hierarchy sucks, especially when it depends on how much you obey to the rules that they shove up to you. i hate it, i will do my best to avoid it as much as possible. and the only reason i study is going to a better school, so i have less people judging me and more people who is like me to communicate(or not to communicate). i think this fear is the reason of the first fear of mine, but not sure. some bonuses: reality breaking: tough it would be fun, it really scares me mostly because it is unpredictable. becoming the very thing i swore to destroy not changing to good and changing at the same time realizing that i was being absolutely irrational all my life and my whole life is builded on top of a lie
Fear of success. We have great ideas, but are scared of implementing them partly in case we don’t know if we could manage them if they are successful. Story of my life😜
I as an INTP I admit that one of the biggest fears INTP's have are their emotions. Recently it came to me that the best way to defeat my fear is doing things that requires emotion (for that thing to be perfect). For example music (playing with the instrument). It's effective, because as an INTP I want to play it perfectly and in order to do that, I need to put some emotion to it. It works (I think) because I fight my weakness with my strength.
As an ENFP who definitely does not love everybody: INTPs give me warm fuzzy feelings. Also, Nathan, I commend the attention to detail in your comment/subscribe outros. I always watch until the very end because I know they'll be good ; )
This hit so differently because at face value one might take it as them just being robots but Intps understand it as or atleast I do that irrationality brings more harm then rationality and at the end of the day they are seeking peace of mind and of world trying to make sense of it. They are not mad scientist wrong stereotype
I think I’m far more sensitive than an average INTP; which made me doubt being an INTP. It especially occurs when I’m sad, I’d start worrying if i overanalyzed being an INTP while I’m actually an INFP. Can other any INTP relate to this?
As an INTP I struggled in the past with admitting I liked someone in a romantic way, I feared rejection. Some things I still fear today is not realizing my ambitions due to procrastination and alzheimer, I fear forgetting everything I learned and the people I know and care about.
I don't want to be known by people, less people know me the better. And rather than arguing with people about their illogical theories, I've started to nod along just so I don't offend them and use them if needed. A neat trick lol. Though being closed off has hampered my career drastically. There are barely two of three people who understand me and aren't offended usually.
That first fear is more something that ExTJs would have. I think the biggest fear of INTPs is that they might never achieve what they are capable of because the dumb townsfolk don't understand their logic and want them to compromise their reasons to suit other people's values. The INTP thinks "What I'm designing will work best if you leave me alone and let me do it my way. Also, don't ask me to change it because you don't like the colour".
After getting into multiple arguments with my friend, I realized the cause of my anger was their inability to comprehend my claims and points, which made me frustrated, then I was also angry at the fact that I was getting obsessively pissed over something so small and logically shouldn’t be that big of a deal. It’s a whole process and it definitely feels a lot easier when it’s mentioned in a video to explain why…
I'm always telling ppl that beneath my feelz is logic and a rational basis for them. That way, when they see my feelz (and as usual, can't always immediately understand or relate to them) they won't confuse me with one of those ENFJ or other types. This is what makes INFPs often intellectually superior along with INTPs and INTJ. There's logic there, it's just not dominant in our case. But, it comes out at the right times, especially during arguments. So what you said about feelz being beneath your logic struck a chord, because it's logic beneath the feelz for me. - INFP
I prefer the term meat popsicle. In all seriousness though, as an INTP I totally identify with this and will now proceed to tell you how point by point. #1. I am actually working on this area right now and it is really hard and frankly terrifying. Tapping into my emotions is a bit like trying to understand someone speaking in a foreign language plus my hearing is bad. #2. I don't know if I agree that I need to make people understand my thoughts exactly but I have realized I need to get them out and expressed some way, even if it's art, journaling, etc. #3. I felt stagnate for about 10 years before I finally broke free and made some major changes. I don't know what was harder - the utter boredom of being stuck or the absolute terror of blowing up my life. I do know that the latter is far more rewarding. Whew that's it - must be feeling talkative today!
What actions have you taken do work on #1 and #3? I've been trying to gear myself up for about a year and a half now. #2 I've been doing by starting a blog and writing a romance story and posting it one chapter at a time and feeling connected to the people who comment. One of my commentors is now my beta reader, and we actually talk aloud, in real-time, through Discord. She is a social worker who is helping me work through some of my ingrained blocks and attitudes that affect relationships.
Not just having trouble accepting their own emotions, but others' as well. When others show intense emotions externally, INTPs often get mad/frustrated because they're forced to engage their Fe. This unfortunately means they can make others' emotional states worse.
The British upload schedule: EST has just woken up, rolled out of bed, and struggles to understand something 'thinky' pre-coffee. But you still just like listening to the accent.
I’m an INTP and through lots of introspection and research, I believe understanding my emotions has given me a greater sense of self. Not only that, but a greater understanding of both masculine and feminine energies. Understanding my feelings has helped me to express them verbally without attacking or victimizing myself. I’m able to use logic and remain soft, honest and respectful 😊
The truity site has an article describing seven INTPs, one of whom is the author Stephen King, who has written a thing or two about fear. Since I had not considered King as an INTP, it is causing me to re-evaluate his work in light of his multi-faceted abilities and extended experience expressing fearful emotions. A King re-read is a considerable commitment.
King has excellent past recall. He seems to be fond of the 50’s/60’s/70’s/80’s. His childhood and past experience shape his stories a great deal. He is indeed a master of putting fear into words and scenarios like no one else. He also has a deep understanding of addiction. A lot of his protagonists are loners. If they had to work together with other people for the greater good, it was with reluctance. I don’t care for his recent books because he began to inject his own political ideology into his character or story, just like John Grisham. As for him being an INTP, I never saw that. He seems to be more like an INFP to me (strong Fi).
yep, accepting my emotions is the hardest thing to do. usually if I feel a certain way and its illogical I just try to push it down because I know its dumb but that usually just turns into anger for me.
i fear fucking up socially. i had good friendships in life that broke or went pretty bad due to my social blunders. it just takes one mistake as an intp. because when you make a mistake, it's a grave one.
I have so much things to say that I don't have words for. I always end up saying too much to approach what I sense and never quite get there, or decide to say nothing at all. Sometimes I can't even put them into words for myself to mull over, which hinders my thinking process in general. The frustration is just overwhelming.
Truthful Kindness here. These fears are much compounded when living with dementia. ❤️. I can see my logic decline, and communication is becoming a big problem I was searching UA-cam for intersections on topic of my personality type (INTP) , living with dementia (probable Lewy Body like the actor Robin Williams), and how knowledge of personality type might be useful for my care team. THANKS for sharing this video.
What I hate is the fact that I have a very hard time learning something as various thoughts automatically enter my mind causing a conflict on a certain thing I'm trying to learn
Regarding being misunderstood, I think it works both ways. I have a hard time knowing what people truly mean or if they really mean it when they say anything. I think I’ve developed a habit of just going along with what people say but never actually believing them because I wouldn’t want to accuse them of being untrustworthy for my own lack of social skills.
it's been my experience that most other people do not mean what they say as much as I do. simply another data element that is taken into consideration as I am interacting with people.
As an INTP on the mature side excellent summary of the three key INTP fears. With maturity have learnt to accept my 'irrational' side though still struggle with other's! Not being listened too or unable to communicate my reasoning still a frustration as I find most aren't willing to stay mum whilst I provide the detail and thinking necessary to demonstrate my logical conclusion. Thus why I prefer a captive audience that are 'forced' to listen e.g., giving presentations at work, or written communication. As to stagnation, finding it a real issue in my older years now that my Si has matured and my Ne tempered down somewhat. Tend to find that I need the assistance of an outsider to motivate me into action whereas funnily enough didn't have such a problem with this in my younger years probably due to my youthful energy and an Ne in overdrive.
I relate to the communication one so much, I feel like everytime I really try to explain myself, nobody really understands. It makes me increasingly frustrated, and I've given up on others understanding me
I stopped having that fear when I realised and understood the logic behind feelings, how to control them, why they are, and such stuff. Lots of years of analysis of myself and other people's feelings were not in vain! POG
My biggest fears are commitment and responsibility. I don’t like having set things that need to be done, it stresses me out. I’d rather go with the flow then know that I have responsibilities. So college testing and my future as an adult are not sitting well with me. I don’t like taking action at all.
Thanks for your work, I spend all yesterday watching all your INTP videos...I already knew i,m a pure INTP, but I was not happy with that, I think I was always fighting to become more INTJ.. this video of fears and limitations was really enlightening
My fears as an intp woman: 1_being emotional 2_losing my logic and reason ability ( i'd rather be dead than irrational.) 3_wasting my whole potential. 4_being forced to live my life in some way that I don't like. 5_being physically helpless and need others.
My partner is an INTP and I think he is truly a genius, a deep thinker, great problem solver, and he is so calm, relaxed and spontaneous! Being an ENFJ myself, I have always found myself attracted to these types of men, and also as friends. It's like looking at the mirror image of myself! Anyway, there is never a dull moment for us, life is always interesting and an adventure to explore.
One thing I've experienced as an INTP is a lack of a sense of community, like even if I'm active in a community I feel that I'm not deserving enough to be considered part of a community nor do I feel anyone else considers me part of it. I've moved allot throughout my life so I've had to deal with leaving a community allot. I don't even think I'm scared of it anymore, since it feels more like an inevitability, but I dread it when I feel like I'm going to have to leave a group, because no matter how many times I 'leave the tribe' it never gets any better even when it becomes more familiar.
The alternative is to live with someone or people under one roof. I consider living alone a better option for my nerves. As for death, once you are about to cross over, you are on your own. A room full of people can’t come with you.
So true about the emotions!!! But I'm learning how to recognize certain kinds of behaviours that often happen when I feeling a certain way and then i usually try to change what might be causing it. But yeah, it is a complete dissociation of my own self, like my body and mind are two different things
1. Emotions aren't necessarily irrational as emotions can be included in process of logical decision making can have rationale to it. I think more of an issue can be when we act purely on emotion or if our reason is flawed in some way such as invalid or unsound logic behind our actions we can lead to a bad decision making. Of course we aren't purely logical beings and we I would say often act and rationalize later our actions (in a way there is necessary pragmatism to it, at least in term of less important decisions as we commit to action quickly achieving sufficient while perhaps not perfect results by doing so, ie heuristics). That said it isn't we shouldn't strive to deploy logic as it's most effective way to navigate and understand reality (at least when done correctly and in congruence with facts). In that regard my fear is more that I will make bad decisions if I don't evaluate situation first and that includes acting rashly due to experiencing emotion. 2. I've massive issue with communicating my point across , part of it is regarding essentially often time when I argue about something it tends quickly devolve into other person referring to my character rather than arguments or claims being made ie "you're mean, rude , argumentative, troll" which I'm either will have to contest or point they are of little relevance to what was argued as even if those qualities correctly would describe me that would not prove or disprove validity or soundness of my argumentation. Another issue is failure to understand purpose of analogy which is to demonstrate point/principle on object/concept with similar/the same properties object/concept that is being discussed that would be relevant to principle/point being made . Essentially person saying X isn't Y and therefore analogy is invalid , despite X doesn't need to be Y only share relevant traits of Y to point being made, so unless you can point to traits would make principle not apply in this specific case or disprove that they share such traits analogy still demonstrates point made or working principle. Same often for inductive reasoning as such relying on concept of probability that some seem to struggle to understand in decision making when they assert "but you don't' know it for sure and therefore your decision making process is invalid/wrong" . That's not even entire story. 3. I'm chronic procrastinator and lazy with ironic streak of being hard worker when I give a damn. Not really significantly afraid of stagnating. That said I would probably fir the bill of Fi-dom rather than Ti user some people claim I'm Ti-dom or NTP.
Anymore when I try to think about my emotions or thoughts I end up zoning out with that weird out of body feeling where you just don’t feel anything like you don’t even exist. So I try to just keep myself busy.
INTP does not accept reality : we have emotion. Not accepting the fact that our logic system need emotion to work. We dont value emotion that is reality. It is time to change that.
Great video and I say you're dead-on with all of this. I'm a 30yr old INTP and everything you say is my thoughts through life. This sort of CONSTANT fear of emotions, and being sure if I even FEEL them is why I hate Enneagram. They say you can't be a 5w9, but google that. You'll find ALL intps saying "Hey I got this, why do they tell me I'm not real?" lol. INTPs are a deeply conflicted person by default. This is part of why we procrastinate. (That, and the common presence of traditional psychology's ADHD, lol)
i am terrified of bugs and i don’t know why. i’m really confused why and i think it’s because i’ve removed the natural fears of humans but like, if i can do that then i could get rid the fear of bugs. but naaoooo i have to jump at the sight of a dragonfly.
One of my biggest fears as an INTP is to find myself in a situation where I have to handle an emotional person, cuz I have zero idea about how their brain actually work
This is exceptionally accurate. And, you even threw in a random, little known fact (which makes INTPs happy). As it happens, being and INTP who likes geology, I am aware that evolution is an untrue theory, which helps keep out the depression. (Otherwise, someone smart should take over the world and fix everything [which is said with a bit of jest].) These videos are both very funny and accurate, thank you. Additional INTP fear: dying alone because no one understands your thoughts, and this is a problem because you know that you are human, which means you would be happiest with another human...but you are not....
When i was a teenager, my biggest fear was to somehow lose control and show what i actually feel to other people. I used to be really into art film and would never watch these serious films with friends, so that i could keep my feelings to myself. I have been working on this a lot, so I am definitely better now, but I still hate sharing my feelings.
As an intp, yes. I ignore my problems and act like I'm alright, or I think of a creative/fun way to feel better. I don't talk about my problems and feelings much, which would make people suspect me of lying if I were to talk about it. I can get stressed, annoyed, and embarrassed by my own emotions. I hate it when teachers ask about my feelings/emotions on something or in general, and I hate to seem like I'm venting or getting emotional. I fear showing my emotions or showing too much of them because people would find me weird for it. I at times hate not showing much emotion since people think I'm mean for that, rather than caring to understand me. I want to make sure I can get my point across and communicate correctly with people. I don't want them to get out of hand or offended about what I say. They need to understand where I am coming from, what I am saying, and what I mean. I don't want to hurt their feelings, but my point has to be understood. They'd react irationally, and I don't want them leaving without understanding my point enough.
I, an INTP, am afraid that I'm not actually an INTP.
I totally get this, but you realize that it actually means that you are .lol
As Jean said. The difference between INTJ and INTP is simple: INTJ know that they are INTJ.
I've retaken the testing a bunch hoping I'd get something other than INTP. Not sure why, it wont change anything. I will still be the socially awkward outcast hiding in my nerd cave.
@@Playingwith3D Actually, you can become really comfortable with yourself, and realize that people really love to be around you : )
LOL this made me laugh ~ Nathan
1) Deadlines.
2) Emotions.
3) The computer freezing.
Oh... #3 smh
4) Closing unintentionally all your internet tabs without being able to get them back
Run Linux. It never freezes. If it does, you have greater problems.
@@liaoanais3925 there is a feature called "History" for that. You're welcome.
@ginaintegrityseeker I have tabs that I have opened last year. Can't close it. It has be to be there. When I shut down the computer, I let the OS send the TERM signal to all apps. so when I restart, and re-open the apps, everything is restored as if they had been closed improperly. If not, I have my History (currently "19 tabs open")
INTP Fear: That they'll never help anyone. That they'll hurt someone's feelings by accident. That they'll never be appreciated for who they are.
Yesssss
so clear, so correct!
Don't they apply to everyone?
this was a personal attack to all the intps
This
INTP best in and fear of : procrastination
I challenge you to a procrastination duel. May the best P win. - INFP
Terrormitzsu I am already way behind you.
- INTP
Only like if and only if you're procrastinating when you saw this comment
Hey, INTP procrastination belongs to us!
-INFP
@@victoriabrown3374, lol, huh, what? I only just saw your reply. 😒😄
The worst is when you finally come to terms with your emotions and the get shut down by other people when you try to express them.
YES. Or, they assume they know what I'm going to say and interrupt. So sometimes I have to talk over THEM to let me finish.
Just find another people.
TRULY THE WORSE! Especially when your record is listening to them without interrupting no matter what’s been said.
The receptivity and reciprocity is rare.
Getting schooled on managing emotion when you pretended to have them in the first place.. agh.😒
I definitely identify with the being frustrated by my own human limitations
I would like to be a disembodied consciousness, please and thank you
@@leannemiron omg same
I’ve felt like this since I was a kid. I used to have visions of the spirit inside me ripping through my body to get out
Same ig
honestly i just ignore my emotions so much its not even funny anymore..
Same. Sometimes I don't know if I really feel something or suppress emotions and pretend to feel what must or I don't feel anything.
Same. I express how I feel and then think “what if you’re just faking it”
Yep.
As an intp, this my first time being early. The feeling is..weird.
Exactly 😂😂😂
I would be amazed and so proud if I make it early to anything... so proud that I might leave and buy a coffee and come back late...
huh .. im an INTP and i care so much about timing i actually like being too early to wrok or a date or anything i just cant stand waiting for something/someone therefor i hate being late and making others wait
Smygle Also an Intp, I agree I like to be on time when waiting to meet with someone because I never want someone to wait on me. That being said when it comes to due dates and deadlines they don’t exist for me and I always wait for the last minute or turn it in late.
@@victoriabrown3374 yeah i totally agree with that
My most common fear/anxiety as an INTP is making decisions. I enjoy all of the research and exploration involved in finding possible solutions and evaluating the pros/cons of those solutions but that's where my fun and (ideally) involvement ends. If I could just package up a bunch of possibilities and send them on their way to whomever wants to make the decision I'd be satisfied - _I_ don't get satisfaction necessarily from seeing a solution through. I think part of it is also the fear of accountability for any decision that turns out badly. I don't want my credibility with others to be diminished if something goes wrong and have them not trust my input in the future. That's a really scary prospect for me but also a sort of conceptual-perfectionism that I (and probably INTPs in general) struggle with and have to accept if I want to grow personally and be effective externally.
Side note: Having a strong Te-user in your life to help you predict and measure the effectiveness of your ideas is really useful!
I, too, enjoy the process a little too much. As I got older, I have noticed that all the research and pondering didn’t go nowhere, especially the more practical subject matters. When I decide, it’s made faster with little buyer’s remorse.
this. "I think part of it is also the fear of accountability for any decision that turns out badly. I don't want my credibility with others to be diminished if something goes wrong and have them not trust my input in the future."
Oh yeah I definitely avoid making any permanent decisions until I have to.
Oh God, you are soooooo me
One of my intps will regularly ask for opinions or 'what shall I do?' in situations, and this really helps me to understand why! I (not intp) personally really really dislike making decisions for other people, but I will swallow that feeling and try and help her out. So thank you for that insight.
This man is really out here calling us all out. No person should have this type of power.
Bruh McBro frank james pulls this crap all the time with infjs lately. He’s going through the self loathing stage of the late 20s and early 30s infj.
Glad you found it accurate! ~ Nathan
the power of 5w6 core
this is so accurate. sometimes I found myself avoiding things that make me emotional, sad songs, movies, books, etc. my mind is forcing myself to be logical and try not to let emotions get the best of me...
Same here...
Same here. I even started to avoid the romantic things since elementary school. I prefer to read encyclopedias and adventure books rather than a fantasy novel about princess and fairytales. Haha
I don't understand why some people even want to force themselves feeling sad with an art. Not judging. Just... just why...
Don't let the emotions win! ~ Nathan
same! but I’m so empathic I really can’t control it I literally feel what they are feeling happy sad or angry
Man, getting deeply frustrated about being "irredeemably human" and "a creature with physical needs" hit home hard!
~Sincerely yours, not an INTP (ENTJ)
You guys are the best
ENFJ's and ENTJ's experience a somewhat similar (but also somewhat different) thing due to Si POLR. I think they have a hard time acknowledging that pushing through with Se will not help and is not always wise, but rather a more calm and balanced "Si approach "is required
@@PowerRedBullTypology the issue with Si is a bit different. It is not a matter of choosing to ignore it deliberately. It is more like "Oh, Si! Yea, I can do Si! If anything, from this moment on I declare to focus on it, nurture it and be aware of it!... (hit on a head from "nowhere") oh, fuck... oh, FUCK... (blackout) 🤷♀️🤦♀️
Irredeemable spelling mistake tbh
@@NightTimeDay oh, thanks! Have just corrected it
As an INTP, I think my biggest fear is communicating my emotions and feelings.
However, this only happens after:
1. I realize that I'm feeling something and I can name what I am feeling
2. I figure out why I am feeling that way
3. I rationalize that it is okay to feel that way (or I don't accept it)
4. Figure out if I need to change how I feel
5. If I believe that my feelings are bad, I would either
a) Try to suppress them
b) Try to change circumstances surrounding emotions
If (a) doesn't work well (or has been going on for more than a year), I will then try communication.
And when communication doesn't go well, I'll just go back to (a).
My second biggest fear is emotions and feelings to overwhelming me and affect my everyday life.
Yep, pretty accutate
right on, though I've never listed the steps out like that. I tend to go with b, and refer to a as letting emotions go rather than suppressing them. If the same negative emotion (which I experience more as negative thought) re appears a few times, then I need to do something about it--convey it to another party or something. In any sort of relationship, it seems to me unfair not to convey something like that. Sharing feelings comes at great cost for the INTP, and unfortunately, my experience has been that other people don't really care what I am feeling. When they dismiss what I am sharing with them, their response strengthens my reticence to share in the future, and in fact my reticence to feel.
Based on a lot of the comments it seems like intp’s are spending a lot of their energy in resistance mode when it comes to feelings. I can imagine how that internal struggle would be. Feelings are the bodies physical reaction to how it interprets what it is sensing. You can’t control them, just as you can’t control your leg from moving when tapped below the patella, and you need to stop trying to control them. Manage them , but don’t control them. Know they will ebb and flow, come and go all on their own.
@@davidkepke1435 no energy spent here on resistance. That's a misunderstanding of how feelings work for at least this INTP. Did you see the vid where Nathan appears as an INTP's feelings and offers to talk with the INTP? The INTP's feelings don't want to talk either. That's closer to reality than the notion of resisting. Without any effort and without any apparent interval of time spent feeling a feeling, potential emotional response is submitted to T, which determines whether or not to engage in feeling.
I am intimately familiar with this exact process.
Biggest fear is that I will die before I learn everything or get the things I want to get done. Being a professional procrastinator means I had better be blessed with an exceptionally long life span....
"Someone who is, much to their disappointment, irredeemably human." #calledout
I'm an INTP with bipolar and ADHD. I spend a lot of time horribly frustrated with my emotions. Especially when they are misbehaving.
I have ADHD and possibly am on the autism spectrum and I deal with this too. The frustration is just another thing you have to deal with on top of it all. It's like I'm crying and I'm watching it from an outsider perspective and there's no reason for me to act like this but it's still happening.
Katie- I’m bipolar and am INTJ. Also intermittent psychotic symptoms. Good luck.
INTP with a large helping of Tourettes syndrome, and a dash of Aspergers..... life wasn't easy, if it wasnt for the INTP part of me that enjoyed taking the challenges I suspect I would not have made it to the age of 66 yo.
Yep. It's those two in particular with INTPs
edit: I mean the mental disorders
As an INTP, I've always had a fear of becoming dogmatic and closed minded as I age.
The thought terrifies me. Anyone else?
That highly depends on what you are dogmatic. If you are dogmatic about not being dogmatic, I would call that a win.
Exactly.
That is such a good way to put it, I agree.
Now just imagine being INTP _and_ female. Yes, I am aware that progesterone spikes in the luteal phase cause me to be irrationally emotional, irritable, and lower my frustration-tolerance. No, I cannot control it or stop it, even if I am aware of it in the moment. All I can do is intellectualize post-hoc. ...However, considering that I'm self-aware enough to notice these patterns, _and_ charitable enough to articulate them, perhaps one should take advantage of my remarkable consistency and self-awareness by remembering not to push my buttons when I've already warned them I'm likely to be irritable. If there were ever a time not to poke a caged bear with a stick and then act surprised when it growls, it would be then. So, Dear World, let's do each other a favor; spare me your stupidity and I'll spare you my wrath.
sister, you're making me laugh this morning. I've had that same thought sequence more than once. Actually, I have found out that some people kinda fear me, which is a bit troubling.
i completely understand you
This reminds me of the times I’ve argued with my husband during the days leading up to my period. Lol
AND charitable enough to articulate them. I couldn't have said it better. 100%
someone get this woman a snickers
My current new hobby is looking at Nathan’s eyebrows raise, eyes filled with intrigue and slight head tilt ❤️ and I am full
this is probably the sweetest comment i’ve come across
He’s very expressive isn’t it 😉
Do INTPs generally have thick/large eyebrows? Because I have big eyebrows and I think Nathan does too. *DUN dun dun...*
InternetPhile No. -INTP
It's important to have rewarding hobbies ~ Nathan
"1: accepting their emotions"
SHOTS FIRED.
My biggest fears:
1) wasting time
2) not finishing most of the 70 open-ended projects I have going at any given moment, before I die
3) obsessing too much over the fact that I waste time obsessing over wasted time. (Fits right in with my procrastination skillset)
I'm highly uncomfortable you reveal this about us but also strangely grateful you're putting these things into words.
As an INFP, I can safely assume INTP's too hate being confused, especially them even.
.... I think that illogical emotions are the primary source of confusion. 😂 Complex theories or topics are much less intimidating.
@@valej9387 It's the other way around for me.
@@puj71 In my perspective... Complex topics are approachable. You don't know what a word is? Look it up. You don't understand a topic and want to? Spend a few nights researching it. Research and learning is our bread and butter-- or at least mine.
Emotions often that lack the things we might otherwise snatch up and analyze, like a dense fog that comes out of nowhere, consumes everything in it's path, and moves in ways we can't predict or analyze when face to face with it. It seems impossible to NOT misstep with someone who is highly emotional and every once and a while, people often make poor decisions based on said feelings and are still surprised when it produces logical results, and every once and a while even we realize we've fallen prey to the guidance of illogical emotions. It's the epitome of all that is difficult to understand.
Nuclear science. Quantum theory. The linguistic origins of some obscure language. The algorithmic functions used in encryption. Mineral classifications. It can all be analyzed.
Why your friend keeps going back to her ex, however, can not. (At least, not in a satisfactory way.)
@@valej9387 Oh my gosh, you're such an INTP. As I know, what matters most to you gyys is knowledge.
Well, INFPs may agree, but our goals is set more towards finding peace, and solving humanity's deepest problems. That's why we're stereotyped as hippies.
Still, some of us may become fond of those.
Same goes to INTPs, some may become psychologists and try to understand emotions and behaviors, those kinda stuff. Either way, INTPs have emotions too, even if it's hidden behind those shiny glass.
It's just a question of preference, if something's caught your interest and you want to devote yourself to it.
*glasses
Weird advice here. If you are an INTP i have found it helpful to try to be more like an INTJ just so you get things done and stop procrastinating
i WISH i was more intj like. procrastination who?
I don’t think that’s possible, procrastination, no matter how much I hate it, is life
I try to internalize the idea that if I don't get that done I'll be a failure and everyone will be smarter and better, so I'll just push through the huge desire of focusing on anything completely useless and get something done.
HOW PLEASE I'VE TRIED EVERY GOD DAMN TRICK IN THE BOOK ON HOW TO STOP PROCRASTINATING AND SOMETIMES IT WORKS FOR A WEEK THEN I FALL BACK TO MY NORMAL SHIT.
PLEASE I AM STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP WITH DEADLINES I AM LITERALLY PROCRASTINATING RIGHT NOW.
How can i do this?
My intp fears
1.the mental frameworks and structures i spent years building are ultimately fruitless
2. Rejection by the group because i did something i didnt even realise was wrong
3. Intellectual/physical liberty and the freedom to explore taken away by a suffocating xSTJ government
4. Being trapped in a sensory/real world job that doesnt allow me to use my Ne or Ti
5. My lifelong developed theories put out into the world become hijacked and used for corrupt ends
Emotions are fine because they can be analysed until you can step outside of them. Observing them in myself I can see the biases that plague the rest of humanity X-D
absolutely
Same
I'm struggling with number 4. Any suggestions?.😵
You hit the nail on the head, especially when you said we don't look after our basic needs - I remember studying at uni and I forgot to eat for 14 hours and when I had to eat, I was annoyed 😂
and you have to do it over and over and over again
@ginaintegrityseeker I wonder sometimes how few of these things I'd do if I were the last person on the planet.
They are not annoying they arw necessary or you will die
@@MelB868 and that's fucking annoying
As an INTP, who is highly skeptical about being an INTP, i truly want someone to reassure that I’m an INTP.
I feel Americans don't say "whilst" enough
We don’t say that at all.
Over here, people think you're pretentious if you dare talk like that. Then they project their own insecurities onto you and accuse you of trying to sound smart because they feel stupid.
Or 'milquetoast'..... It really annoys my brothers when I use that word in a text sentence
what about and/or ?
@@anduro7448 nah Americans use those
Our lack of motivation to complete tasks, or procrastination, is the realest of all stereotypes about INTPs.
I've always had interests in a lot of things and activities, and usually come up with the most interesting ideas in the group, but I can NOT, even if my life depends on it, complete a project and, BE SATISFIED WITH THE OUTCOME.
I guess never being satified with the outcome, and always ending up feeling like "I could do way better" is one of the main reasons of my procrastinating habit.
The other one is of course because if I am still able to do it just in time and still be the best among my peers, so why the heck not😁😁
-INTP
Too relatable. I can have with the best ideas, but not nail them down, but come up with some excellent details on parts of how to execute the idea while being absolutely clueless about the other parts, which leads me to not starting at all, or giving up halfway, or having no heart to pay full attention to the latter half of the project and end up knowing I could have done way better but couldn't have because I was unable to bring myself to that kind of devotion anyways.
@@lilin5485 haha so true mate.... 😂that was totally on point
Totally agree. I have realized I don't start things because I know it will ultimately be judged by my inner critic as not good enough. Trying to adopt the mantra of "Done is better than perfect."
@@jenniferk219 Good mantra. I have two myself. "Nothing good will happen if you don't make it happen." Bad things will, but not good things, not usually. And the other is "The way to get what you want [happiness] is to Go and Do."
Oh boy..... I really need these😆
Difficulty communicating and the fear of being misunderstood/ misinterpreted is indeed the issue I talk about most often. I struggle to translate my thoughts into intelligible speech in the normal flow of conversation, and even when I do, my careful word choice is often not read as such, but then people are bothered when I try to further clarify. Pls send help
I can relate.
diagram > speech
memes > speech
Same bruh.. We need help 😔
I'm the same- a week ago, during class, we were discussing some topics, about social cognitive and stuff, and... I said things, that according to some pp are insensitive. In my head, it all sounded good and fine, yet, when my teacher answered me... I was like oh sht, I guess I messed up and until now I'm still thinking about it. lol (or maybe not). #helpINTP
INTP’s are so interesting! I want to learn more about them.
-From a friendly INFJ
I'm an INTP. My first reaction to "Number one: Accepting their emotions" was a big fat "NO"
:,)
Anyway, great video, sadly very accurate--
a fear i have is not being unique enough, I have such a strong desire to be individualist and original that it frustrates me when someone copy’s what I’m doing even if I copied it from someone else in the first place
If we agree about everything, one of us is unnecessary...
I’m an INTP enneagram 4w5 so I feel and think deeply. Accepting emotions is agonizing for me because my regular Fe grips keep on clouding my judgement and I hate it. Makes me irrational and out of control, especially when revealing my feelings to friends.
Alright but can we just appreciate the level of psychological insight this man has? Damn. I'm not too fond of the original MBTI. The INTP (me, who would have guessed?) is rather multidimensional, but other types, such as the ESFJ are broadly defined.
I love how he is able to actually think about how different personality types think and direct their energy, instead of misusing them as a label. (Of course, comedic purposes are a different thing)
I hate having to admit my emotion to myself.. I honestly do.
Relatable
The scariest thought I can think of in this moment , that I can imagine is - not being true to myself, being dishonest about truth to myself....shudder. But of course this could never happen : ) English is not my strongest language, so I am hoping this is clearly written.
English isn't my mother tongue, but while I was in high school I excelled at it, but seeing all of the other INTPs and INTJs I feel like a beginner who can barely speak English. Watching this channel and reading the comment section led to many more words in my notebook kept for new vocabularies. I started college last week and now I feel inferior and humiliated for how bad my English is, so I'm going to try and improve as quickly as I could.
Hey Nathan, nice job designing those mugs, I didn’t know you were the artist - I am a fine arts professor and I actually always noticed how cool these designs were - so really cool
2:23 I'm left-handed and I agree. If nothing else, I can still play a few simple chords on a piano, very slowly.
I agree. I’m a leftie too and I always liked piano because it’s one of the few instruments that I can play without having to think about being left handed. Having to buy a left handed specific instrument.
@@peterspilltheteaparker4109 But that's why I decided to stay with a right-handed guitar so I can play chords slowly but accurately.
As a female INTP: I fear cooking. One, because it is stereotypically a girl's chore or duty. I can literally order that food. Anyway, also the inconsistency of knowing what the ingredient is for but can be used in so many ways. I prefer baking which I naturally avoid.
I remember a line manager once asking me how they should 'manage' me. I replied that they may as well ask me how they should construct a particle accelerator - such a complex question with such a complex answer. They responded with that blank stare that is so common when INTPs say things. I then said, "It's probably best to just leave me alone'.
So one fear is people trying to 'manage' me
When once a managing broker asked me how I’m motivated: money, status, success…? I responded nearly identically and was met with the same deer-in-the-headlights stare. I find it endlessly satisfying that despite society’s best efforts, I can’t be pinned down.
my list:
-Failure. i am afraid of failing because, i was relatively succesful then my peers and i was kind of a "gifted child" (but hell i am not) and my whole life i constructed my dreams, actions, relationships and most importantly my relationship with my own self on this "success" base and i feel like if i fail one single exam, my whole personality will collapse. by the way i am pretty sure my parents doesn't have a big impact on that they are pretty relaxed about academia and carrier stuff, i am not.
2-)being in a situation where i am have to deal with the dumb people
in the place i live in, you have to serve some time in the army and the army is... well, the hell, it is full of average people, it is the most sensory place i have ever acknowledged and most importantly the hierarchy sucks, especially when it depends on how much you obey to the rules that they shove up to you. i hate it, i will do my best to avoid it as much as possible. and the only reason i study is going to a better school, so i have less people judging me and more people who is like me to communicate(or not to communicate). i think this fear is the reason of the first fear of mine, but not sure.
some bonuses:
reality breaking: tough it would be fun, it really scares me mostly because it is unpredictable.
becoming the very thing i swore to destroy
not changing to good and changing at the same time
realizing that i was being absolutely irrational all my life and my whole life is builded on top of a lie
Ooof the communication one hits HOME. They all do.... ouch 🤕
INTP here, I have no fear, I adapt. Thank you. (maybe add embarrassment)... Awkwardly though I'm super good with feelings, therapist grade...
Fear of success. We have great ideas, but are scared of implementing them partly in case we don’t know if we could manage them if they are successful. Story of my life😜
I as an INTP I admit that one of the biggest fears INTP's have are their emotions. Recently it came to me that the best way to defeat my fear is doing things that requires emotion (for that thing to be perfect). For example music (playing with the instrument). It's effective, because as an INTP I want to play it perfectly and in order to do that, I need to put some emotion to it. It works (I think) because I fight my weakness with my strength.
As an ENFP who definitely does not love everybody: INTPs give me warm fuzzy feelings.
Also, Nathan, I commend the attention to detail in your comment/subscribe outros. I always watch until the very end because I know they'll be good ; )
You should love everyone because God loves everyone. So does that mean you hate others
Entp honestly the only INTP that ik kinda pisses me off but I do like poking him cause he makes funny noises when poked.
*”Intps fear behaving irrationally, seeing they are behaving irrationally, and not being able to stop it”*
This hit so differently because at face value one might take it as them just being robots but Intps understand it as or atleast I do that irrationality brings more harm then rationality and at the end of the day they are seeking peace of mind and of world trying to make sense of it. They are not mad scientist wrong stereotype
I think I’m far more sensitive than an average INTP; which made me doubt being an INTP. It especially occurs when I’m sad, I’d start worrying if i overanalyzed being an INTP while I’m actually an INFP. Can other any INTP relate to this?
Yep, I get sad easily but rarely angry. We do have feelings, we just don't let it affect our decisions
As an INTP I struggled in the past with admitting I liked someone in a romantic way, I feared rejection. Some things I still fear today is not realizing my ambitions due to procrastination and alzheimer, I fear forgetting everything I learned and the people I know and care about.
I don't want to be known by people, less people know me the better. And rather than arguing with people about their illogical theories, I've started to nod along just so I don't offend them and use them if needed. A neat trick lol. Though being closed off has hampered my career drastically. There are barely two of three people who understand me and aren't offended usually.
That first fear is more something that ExTJs would have. I think the biggest fear of INTPs is that they might never achieve what they are capable of because the dumb townsfolk don't understand their logic and want them to compromise their reasons to suit other people's values. The INTP thinks "What I'm designing will work best if you leave me alone and let me do it my way. Also, don't ask me to change it because you don't like the colour".
You've nailed it for me.
After getting into multiple arguments with my friend, I realized the cause of my anger was their inability to comprehend my claims and points, which made me frustrated, then I was also angry at the fact that I was getting obsessively pissed over something so small and logically shouldn’t be that big of a deal. It’s a whole process and it definitely feels a lot easier when it’s mentioned in a video to explain why…
I shut down my feelings by being logical because I'm not good in controlling my emotions.
I'm always telling ppl that beneath my feelz is logic and a rational basis for them. That way, when they see my feelz (and as usual, can't always immediately understand or relate to them) they won't confuse me with one of those ENFJ or other types. This is what makes INFPs often intellectually superior along with INTPs and INTJ. There's logic there, it's just not dominant in our case. But, it comes out at the right times, especially during arguments. So what you said about feelz being beneath your logic struck a chord, because it's logic beneath the feelz for me. - INFP
Interesting. So people don't understand your emotions the same way people don't understand my [INTP] logic...
@@DreamQuillRose, I think so. It *is* interesting... cool!
I prefer the term meat popsicle.
In all seriousness though, as an INTP I totally identify with this and will now proceed to tell you how point by point.
#1. I am actually working on this area right now and it is really hard and frankly terrifying. Tapping into my emotions is a bit like trying to understand someone speaking in a foreign language plus my hearing is bad.
#2. I don't know if I agree that I need to make people understand my thoughts exactly but I have realized I need to get them out and expressed some way, even if it's art, journaling, etc.
#3. I felt stagnate for about 10 years before I finally broke free and made some major changes. I don't know what was harder - the utter boredom of being stuck or the absolute terror of blowing up my life. I do know that the latter is far more rewarding.
Whew that's it - must be feeling talkative today!
What actions have you taken do work on #1 and #3? I've been trying to gear myself up for about a year and a half now. #2 I've been doing by starting a blog and writing a romance story and posting it one chapter at a time and feeling connected to the people who comment. One of my commentors is now my beta reader, and we actually talk aloud, in real-time, through Discord. She is a social worker who is helping me work through some of my ingrained blocks and attitudes that affect relationships.
Not just having trouble accepting their own emotions, but others' as well. When others show intense emotions externally, INTPs often get mad/frustrated because they're forced to engage their Fe. This unfortunately means they can make others' emotional states worse.
ironically, as an intp, i was, in fact, already subscribed
The British upload schedule: EST has just woken up, rolled out of bed, and struggles to understand something 'thinky' pre-coffee. But you still just like listening to the accent.
Same, girl, same.
The first one, i feel like I've moved past now. Still struggle with it every now and then, but for the most part I've learnt to deal with it
Any tips for those of us further back on our emotional journeys?
I’m an INTP and through lots of introspection and research, I believe understanding my emotions has given me a greater sense of self. Not only that, but a greater understanding of both masculine and feminine energies. Understanding my feelings has helped me to express them verbally without attacking or victimizing myself. I’m able to use logic and remain soft, honest and respectful 😊
"left to their own devices...figuratively and literally." Good one Nathan
The truity site has an article describing seven INTPs, one of whom is the author Stephen King, who has written a thing or two about fear. Since I had not considered King as an INTP, it is causing me to re-evaluate his work in light of his multi-faceted abilities and extended experience expressing fearful emotions. A King re-read is a considerable commitment.
King has excellent past recall. He seems to be fond of the 50’s/60’s/70’s/80’s. His childhood and past experience shape his stories a great deal. He is indeed a master of putting fear into words and scenarios like no one else. He also has a deep understanding of addiction. A lot of his protagonists are loners. If they had to work together with other people for the greater good, it was with reluctance.
I don’t care for his recent books because he began to inject his own political ideology into his character or story, just like John Grisham.
As for him being an INTP, I never saw that. He seems to be more like an INFP to me (strong Fi).
yep, accepting my emotions is the hardest thing to do. usually if I feel a certain way and its illogical I just try to push it down because I know its dumb but that usually just turns into anger for me.
As INTP, I've heard and share one big fear about failing in life, and having no purpose.
i fear fucking up socially. i had good friendships in life that broke or went pretty bad due to my social blunders.
it just takes one mistake as an intp. because when you make a mistake, it's a grave one.
The reason why I subscribe is because you're the first that doesn't make me feel bad for not beening ridiculous smart INTP.
I’m suddenly very nervous about losing my right hand.... but that was equally interesting to learn about that pianist bit!
I have so much things to say that I don't have words for. I always end up saying too much to approach what I sense and never quite get there, or decide to say nothing at all. Sometimes I can't even put them into words for myself to mull over, which hinders my thinking process in general. The frustration is just overwhelming.
Truthful Kindness here. These fears are much compounded when living with dementia. ❤️. I can see my logic decline, and communication is becoming a big problem
I was searching UA-cam for intersections on topic of my personality type (INTP) , living with dementia (probable Lewy Body like the actor Robin Williams), and how knowledge of personality type might be useful for my care team. THANKS for sharing this video.
It's not even 10 seconds into the video and I've already been called out. What a great start to the video.
Great Vidéo.
I'd gladdly add some insights about procrastination in particular...but maybe later.
I, as an INTP, am afraid of what happens next, if you understand me.
What I hate is the fact that I have a very hard time learning something as various thoughts automatically enter my mind causing a conflict on a certain thing I'm trying to learn
Regarding being misunderstood, I think it works both ways. I have a hard time knowing what people truly mean or if they really mean it when they say anything. I think I’ve developed a habit of just going along with what people say but never actually believing them because I wouldn’t want to accuse them of being untrustworthy for my own lack of social skills.
it's been my experience that most other people do not mean what they say as much as I do. simply another data element that is taken into consideration as I am interacting with people.
Thinking vs feeling; not opposites, but merely alternative platforms from which to approach the world
As an INTP on the mature side excellent summary of the three key INTP fears. With maturity have learnt to accept my 'irrational' side though still struggle with other's! Not being listened too or unable to communicate my reasoning still a frustration as I find most aren't willing to stay mum whilst I provide the detail and thinking necessary to demonstrate my logical conclusion. Thus why I prefer a captive audience that are 'forced' to listen e.g., giving presentations at work, or written communication. As to stagnation, finding it a real issue in my older years now that my Si has matured and my Ne tempered down somewhat. Tend to find that I need the assistance of an outsider to motivate me into action whereas funnily enough didn't have such a problem with this in my younger years probably due to my youthful energy and an Ne in overdrive.
I relate to the communication one so much, I feel like everytime I really try to explain myself, nobody really understands. It makes me increasingly frustrated, and I've given up on others understanding me
I stopped having that fear when I realised and understood the logic behind feelings, how to control them, why they are, and such stuff. Lots of years of analysis of myself and other people's feelings were not in vain! POG
My biggest fears are commitment and responsibility. I don’t like having set things that need to be done, it stresses me out. I’d rather go with the flow then know that I have responsibilities. So college testing and my future as an adult are not sitting well with me. I don’t like taking action at all.
Thanks for your work, I spend all yesterday watching all your INTP videos...I already knew i,m a pure INTP, but I was not happy with that, I think I was always fighting to become more INTJ.. this video of fears and limitations was really enlightening
My fears as an intp woman:
1_being emotional
2_losing my logic and reason ability ( i'd rather be dead than irrational.)
3_wasting my whole potential.
4_being forced to live my life in some way that I don't like.
5_being physically helpless and need others.
My partner is an INTP and I think he is truly a genius, a deep thinker, great problem solver, and he is so calm, relaxed and spontaneous! Being an ENFJ myself, I have always found myself attracted to these types of men, and also as friends. It's like looking at the mirror image of myself! Anyway, there is never a dull moment for us, life is always interesting and an adventure to explore.
I actually fear being the anti-christ sometimes... although I'm really good, but you never know lol...
One thing I've experienced as an INTP is a lack of a sense of community, like even if I'm active in a community I feel that I'm not deserving enough to be considered part of a community nor do I feel anyone else considers me part of it.
I've moved allot throughout my life so I've had to deal with leaving a community allot. I don't even think I'm scared of it anymore, since it feels more like an inevitability, but I dread it when I feel like I'm going to have to leave a group, because no matter how many times I 'leave the tribe' it never gets any better even when it becomes more familiar.
What happened to the fear of living and dying alone?
I had this fear for some time, then I just accepted the fact that that’s how we all die. Alone.
for this INTP, that fear is transient and doesn't cause much disruption.
@ginaintegrityseeker I hear that. I just got out of a LTR with an ESFP (no death but I considered it /jk). I feel liberated and relieved.
The alternative is to live with someone or people under one roof. I consider living alone a better option for my nerves. As for death, once you are about to cross over, you are on your own. A room full of people can’t come with you.
@ginaintegrityseeker Hilarious : )
Ahh, such a great video! I think I understand them a lot better now. High quality content, but, that was to be expected. Kind regards, Nathan!
So true about the emotions!!! But I'm learning how to recognize certain kinds of behaviours that often happen when I feeling a certain way and then i usually try to change what might be causing it.
But yeah, it is a complete dissociation of my own self, like my body and mind are two different things
1. Emotions aren't necessarily irrational as emotions can be included in process of logical decision making can have rationale to it. I think more of an issue can be when we act purely on emotion or if our reason is flawed in some way such as invalid or unsound logic behind our actions we can lead to a bad decision making. Of course we aren't purely logical beings and we I would say often act and rationalize later our actions (in a way there is necessary pragmatism to it, at least in term of less important decisions as we commit to action quickly achieving sufficient while perhaps not perfect results by doing so, ie heuristics). That said it isn't we shouldn't strive to deploy logic as it's most effective way to navigate and understand reality (at least when done correctly and in congruence with facts). In that regard my fear is more that I will make bad decisions if I don't evaluate situation first and that includes acting rashly due to experiencing emotion.
2. I've massive issue with communicating my point across , part of it is regarding essentially often time when I argue about something it tends quickly devolve into other person referring to my character rather than arguments or claims being made ie "you're mean, rude , argumentative, troll" which I'm either will have to contest or point they are of little relevance to what was argued as even if those qualities correctly would describe me that would not prove or disprove validity or soundness of my argumentation. Another issue is failure to understand purpose of analogy which is to demonstrate point/principle on object/concept with similar/the same properties object/concept that is being discussed that would be relevant to principle/point being made . Essentially person saying X isn't Y and therefore analogy is invalid , despite X doesn't need to be Y only share relevant traits of Y to point being made, so unless you can point to traits would make principle not apply in this specific case or disprove that they share such traits analogy still demonstrates point made or working principle. Same often for inductive reasoning as such relying on concept of probability that some seem to struggle to understand in decision making when they assert "but you don't' know it for sure and therefore your decision making process is invalid/wrong" . That's not even entire story.
3. I'm chronic procrastinator and lazy with ironic streak of being hard worker when I give a damn. Not really significantly afraid of stagnating.
That said I would probably fir the bill of Fi-dom rather than Ti user some people claim I'm Ti-dom or NTP.
Anymore when I try to think about my emotions or thoughts I end up zoning out with that weird out of body feeling where you just don’t feel anything like you don’t even exist. So I try to just keep myself busy.
INTP does not accept reality : we have emotion. Not accepting the fact that our logic system need emotion to work. We dont value emotion that is reality. It is time to change that.
Great video and I say you're dead-on with all of this. I'm a 30yr old INTP and everything you say is my thoughts through life. This sort of CONSTANT fear of emotions, and being sure if I even FEEL them is why I hate Enneagram. They say you can't be a 5w9, but google that. You'll find ALL intps saying "Hey I got this, why do they tell me I'm not real?" lol. INTPs are a deeply conflicted person by default. This is part of why we procrastinate. (That, and the common presence of traditional psychology's ADHD, lol)
i am terrified of bugs and i don’t know why. i’m really confused why and i think it’s because i’ve removed the natural fears of humans but like, if i can do that then i could get rid the fear of bugs. but naaoooo i have to jump at the sight of a dragonfly.
One of my biggest fears as an INTP is to find myself in a situation where I have to handle an emotional person, cuz I have zero idea about how their brain actually work
This is exceptionally accurate. And, you even threw in a random, little known fact (which makes INTPs happy).
As it happens, being and INTP who likes geology, I am aware that evolution is an untrue theory, which helps keep out the depression. (Otherwise, someone smart should take over the world and fix everything [which is said with a bit of jest].)
These videos are both very funny and accurate, thank you.
Additional INTP fear: dying alone because no one understands your thoughts, and this is a problem because you know that you are human, which means you would be happiest with another human...but you are not....
Explain how evolution (natural selection) is an untrue theory... Go on.
When i was a teenager, my biggest fear was to somehow lose control and show what i actually feel to other people.
I used to be really into art film and would never watch these serious films with friends, so that i could keep my feelings to myself.
I have been working on this a lot, so I am definitely better now, but I still hate sharing my feelings.
As an intp, yes. I ignore my problems and act like I'm alright, or I think of a creative/fun way to feel better. I don't talk about my problems and feelings much, which would make people suspect me of lying if I were to talk about it. I can get stressed, annoyed, and embarrassed by my own emotions. I hate it when teachers ask about my feelings/emotions on something or in general, and I hate to seem like I'm venting or getting emotional. I fear showing my emotions or showing too much of them because people would find me weird for it. I at times hate not showing much emotion since people think I'm mean for that, rather than caring to understand me.
I want to make sure I can get my point across and communicate correctly with people. I don't want them to get out of hand or offended about what I say. They need to understand where I am coming from, what I am saying, and what I mean. I don't want to hurt their feelings, but my point has to be understood. They'd react irationally, and I don't want them leaving without understanding my point enough.
CAN YOU ALSO MAKE VIDEOS TEACHING US HOW TO PLAY THE PIANO???
I have an individual channel called “Nathan Glass” where I will start uploading tutorials in the near future ~ Nathan
Somewhat sounds abit like me maybe.
I keep trying to figure out how it relates. Some things don't like I express myself. It's complicated though.