Oh my GOSH....you are only 27 NOW? You are a wealth of information and I assumed you just looked young for a 37 year old. You Go Guy :) I have learned much from you this spring.
For just a second I was like, "You mean other people don't?" and was genuinely surprised. Then I thought about how some of the people I know would see it and I was like, "Oh." Kinda knocks you down a peg, doesn't it? When I learn something new or have come to a satisfying end to a train of though/decision, I honestly feel like I accomplished something. Sad that a lot of other people don't see it that way.
Yes, which means that our thinking often trumps our doing. If we've got it all figured out in our minds, we rarely feel the need to put those thoughts into practice. It's quite strange actually...
I feel like INxx are the ones who truly know and understand the world and human nature in general it feels like you know something nihilism at its finest I guess
I've noticed that intelligence, although extremely useful in many ways, rarely wins against other traits like: determination, grit, consistency, willingness to fail etc... So you don't have anything to worry about. ~ Nathan
@@robloxloversixnine it depends, depending not only about raw intelligence but other type of abilities, AND LUCK (yeah, some people can be called "lucky" or "luckier" than others) you'd have success, because trust me, high IQ does not mean successful life, but I think you quite had that figured out.
@@juanmanuelmoramontes3883 well not precisely IQ but intelligence in any form can totally determine success. Emotionally intelligent people are often the most successful if paired with IQ intelligence.
You know you're an INTP when you doubt that if you're really an INTP , even though you've taken the test more than 30 times . Edit: been through shitty times , and I'm an infp now .
YESS god one time i thought i can be intj Bec i did an organized notebook .. well apparently i realized that well being intj are more then just being organized and they have different rules in life and thoughts .. well i had high hopes there .. but Man being an intj maybe better when it comes to educational system and being able to get work done and ACHIEVING something ..or did i miss read intj .. maybe
Human nature as we see it today is anything but natural. Some people are far more capable for adapting to new norms than others, but that shit ain't gonna fly with me. I guess you could argue that human nature has "progressed" by proxy, but I'd say it's regressed and I won't allow, nor support it.
My biggest INTP issue is people thinking I enjoy their company when I'm actually trying to figure them out and analysing why they are so irritating or their logic is flawed. I don't like you, your fallacies are a puzzle I just solve.
I'm constantly wondering if I'm a bad person by making someone I dislike think I like them. Deep down I feel this annoyance by them but I'm too much of a coward to just say what my conclusions are on why I dislike them.
Wait, is the stupid zone like playing dumb? I I need to rewatch the whole video as I think I got distracted a couple of times (can you tell I’m an INTP?)
Richard M. Hall The stupid zone is basically a category that we place people into who struggle to understand or have intellectual and deep conversations. I thought I was the only one until I learned about personality types and saw this video...
Here is more dodgy advice for INTP's. Play more dungeons and dragons and make sure you are the Dungeon master. You will have to make quick decisions. You'll have to talk in front of a group of people and organize like hell. At the same time, you will love creating a world full of characters and stories as you logically piece the laws of the world together. INTP's love their comfort zones but life will constantly push you to get out of it. This is always uncomfortable. Try to think about how you can use this uncomfortable situation and turn it into knowledge. Find a way to apply it to your hobby. Take control over the task instead of the other way around.
I was the eternal DM/GM, but prefer playing more. I can get outside of my comfort zone and just play pretend as a character instead of the rigid structure I have when I DM.
...and find yourself an INTJ. You're capable of actually respecting us and vice versa. My best friend is an INTP. We have a great time bouncing creative ideas off of each other and we're both pragmatic in very different ways. We also struggle with Se; so of course, we often end up laughing at each other.
I need this. I personally have an issue with not controlling myself. I correct people on everything they do wrong. I wish I didn’t care so much about fixing minor flaws in people.
Yes it’s hard to resist using your main strength all the time... eventually it becomes the whole: “when you’re a hammer every problem looks like a nail” scenario ~ Nathan
@@_xxpegasusxx_7204 Agreed. I don't need to correct anything. That's why I have Le' Stupid Zone and limit my exposure... Ya'll act like social distancing was discovered this year.
Another great video. Sometimes It feels like I have an inferiority complex and a God complex at the same time. At least one of those is unjustified. Thanks for all the excellent content!
Oh yeah I have so high expectations of myself in terms to be logical and rational and I get very annoyed with myself when my emotions appear and make me act irrational. But It's so hard to not be self-critical...
As an INTP, these months, I tried to listen to my self-critical, as I know it always there. Just listen, like listening to someone talking without carried by it. It was really hard at first, but it saved me from drowning into my perfectionist nature.
Love Who that’s 100% true especially when you are relying a lot on logic and not emotion! Creates a nice paradox where we separate ourselves from people and then go... wait but I am one... I think you mentioned that in the video actually. So perfect example of that!
As an INTP extremum I have a hard time recognizing real life from my imaginations sometimes. And way back when I was like 13 I thought of being an alien because of feeling children not understanding me. My friend catched that up and after a while there were times I was able to forget that in fact I'm not an alien. INTP checklist: Write an essay in the comment answer - done
Friend: What did you do today? Me, an INTP who has been in quarantine for two months and barely noticed: I argued with myself for an hour over whether or not I should eat a vegetable today, then I created an entire novel plot while sitting on the couch for four hours. Friend: ......... Me: I also memorized the periodic table and 100 digits of pi because I finished building my mind palace. Friend: *awkwardly shuffles away*
INTP females have it the worst. We are in opposition to the “typical female” format. I’m too logical to deal with most other people. I overthink and deduce everything, which others perceive as cold or uninterested. I’m hopeless.
I feel you , girl . Sometimes it's not perceived as an attractive quality to men to be overly logical and less emotionally expressive . It just sucks .
True. However, the happiest INTP females I know learn to accept themselves for who they are. Also, if you can get yourself into a room full of INTP males, your popularity score will go through the roof.
@@stevedavenport1202 I’ve accepted it, thus, I stopped looking for someone because I’m rather happy in my own mind. I find that all the men I have found say that I’m perfect, yet cannot tolerate me when I correct their utter wrongness. It’s frustrating when one is in the dating pool. Or they take advantage of my kindness and finances.
I am the philosopher type of INTP. It's impossible to stay one second without thinking. Every little thing captured by my eyes become one entire year of study, meditation, questions, answer and doubts.....
Was it only me that felt anger rising at the thought of charming people instead of methodically crushing them and their arguments devoid of any coherent thought?
@@lovewho Trying to charm people is insulting. It's like saying "you are unable to process information so i have to wrap it in cheese or ham like a pill for a dog"
@@anitamuscaria497 I completely agree. It also completely goes against my sense of authenticity and truth. If you’re being disingenuous, you feel like a Holden Caulfield-esque phony. It is also terribly illogical. Why do I have to pretend to be something I’m not just so you will listen to the damn truth? Ugh. This is why I have to learn yearly to just bite my tongue more often.
I get that. After flipping the "say it with honey" switch on, it feels like I have to go home and scrape off the thick muck of a mask sometimes. Yet, what keeps me doing it is that they are more likely to listen and be a better person for society's sake, which helps me to have hope for humanity as a whole.
Very well done. Insightful. When I was a kid, Dad took me aside....before Mom could strangle me...and said, "Don't think that, just because you know the truth, you have to say it." It was a revelation at the time. 😄
Taking action is hard for INTP. So true... You realized it after a huge amount of unfinished projects or just actions. I don’t want to continue, because everyone knows it very well here. I just wanted to mention one interesting thing that occurred with me in one of the darkest period of my life. I lost my job and I didn’t know what to do with my life in general, I was broken. When everything reached its boiling point, something had changed in my mind. Everything became very clear and I reached very different state of my mind, I named it “voice of common sense”. It was like an adviser. This state guided me to healthy actions. It was very smart and reasonable and I didn’t have any contradiction or doubts as any INTP has. It was some sort of an advanced version of my mind. Have you experienced something like this? How to explain this? How to manage it consciously? Yeah, typical INTP’s questions.😂
I have this too. I like to divide everything that i do with those two things. For once my brain and second my as you said „voice of common sense“. For example my brain and hormones that its produces wants me to eat something bad but my common sense knows that its not what i want but my brain so i dont do it. Its really hard to explain tho
Sometimes, when there are difficult tasks that I cannot handle. I will take a break/play a tv game/take a walk. All of a sudden, an idea from nowhere will be pop-up to solve the task (similar to your mentioned "voice")
I never noticed how focused I was on perfectionism until this year while I was making a charcoal drawing for art I was drawing a picture of my cat and the rough draft looked great- it was probably the best I had ever drawn anything realistically. Of course after the draft, I was supposed to start on the actual project and I started sketching out the cat on my project paper but it just didn't look right. So I kept erasing and redrawing and getting new pieces of paper until my teacher stepped in and said that it didn't have to be perfect. I did, in fact, start crying out of frustration at that point, which just made me feel worse. Anywayyy, long story short, I got to trace that initial draft onto the actual project paper and the drawing is hanging up in the living room. This has been my TEDtalk
You're so right! Spot on. I laughed at "be shmoozey, without making yourself physically sick". You certainly know more about this stuff than I did when I was 25. I'm sub'd and bell'd.
My brother is intp... he uses humor to push his logic... his a lawyer and a entrepreneur... his very sweet but straightforward (people love him)... I think your environment helps too... my dad uses humor to make people listen but his isfj...
Humour is such an excellent communicative tool. It's instantly endearing and disarming in equal measure, both your brother and Dad sound pretty cool! ~ Nathan
Being self critical and trying to remove human aspects are major issues for me. Regarding your example, whether I get too heated in an argument or even if I remain calm and objective in an argument (which is preferable) I look back and over analyze things to the point where I make myself uncomfortable no matter what. Very seldom am I up to my standards, and when I actually am, it’s hard for me to get off my high horse. Then I conclude that it’s best to just eliminate interactions all together. And sensory aspects of being human are the most uncomfortable for me. Because of this, I don’t always take the best care of myself physically (forget the eat, brush my hair, do my nails, etc.) because I often see it as irrelevant, forget about it, or it’s an obstacle to my never-ending train of thought. I also don’t like being in a human body so that’s an issue. (😂)
This is such great advice!! Even for me an infp and i can definitely relate to not being able to explain to people that all i did today was sit here and think. And it felt incredibly fulfilling and having to force myself out of that to do "real world" things is very very tiring. Also, the whole charm during argument things reminded me of a quote i was told by an ENTJ that helped them deal with "humans". If you are right and you are an asshole, people will remember you were an asshole. If you are right and you are gracious, people will remember you were right.
The quote is kinda wrong tho. If you’re an asshole who is wrong but reconfirms wrong worldviews, people will remember that you are right. If you are gracious and are right, many will think you’re dumb. The fallacy of the quote is in assuming that people come to the correct conclusion about what is right. More often they don’t
I've noticed that only about 1/4 of the INTPs who are responding have 'edited' their comments. This could mean the following: That some did edit, then cut/copied the comment, deleted what was on the screen, and then repasted so as to hide any sign of errors; that not all those posting are INTPs; that certain INTPs have been remiss in spell-checking themselves enough times to find spelling errors and fixing them. INTPs who haven't edited, are you SURE that your post was sufficiently spelled and composed according to UA-cam comment section standards? ;)
I think the high Ti -and- Ne are the killer combo with this. A peek to the INTP UA-camr's comment development: *wants to be precise* (Much think, many ideas) *Filter, maybe follow that rabbit trail of a word that's only half-formed in brain and is definitely not the other word in your brain* (Review, double check your sentence editing didn't leave vestigial words from rewording phrases) *submit* (Minding own business) *more ideas, also... did you word it that one way that you're thinking of rn? Cuz that's not anywhere near precision* (Edit: I'm working on submitting comments in under a week, but that means I did it not-the-best-my-brain-could-ever-possibly-make)
Hilariously accurate. I fought myself editing a previously entered comment on this page. (Really?? Do you need to edit every comment, every text message, every everything you ever write??) Don't ask me how many times I reworded this simple comment before pressing reply.
"Putting people in the 'stupid zone'" I checked mine and yeaaaaah.... I put a ton of people in there for good reason and funny enough, you touched on it - logical inconsistencies. And yeah thinking is one of my favorite ways to spend a weekend. Your UA-cam example is perfect. I do my best work when I can sidestep my perfectionist tendencies.
It’s okay to have high standards for yourself and life in general. Nothing wrong with that. The issue comes when they don’t appreciate what they have and what they’ve achieved (which may seem brilliant for all the world and mediocre for them). Even if anything in their lives meets their standards, they are never happy and satisfied. The first thing the Intp need to learn is to appreciate their efforts and things in general only then they’ll feel satisfied and motivated. Off course this is from my infp perspective.
I fall into the very unhealthy INTP and it’s gotten very bad, honestly don’t feel like I’m myself anymore. Just stuck in a dark room all the time, I can’t even think logically anymore...
Remember that the standard health advice applies to intps. Get regular exercise and veggies. Make your sleep schedule regular. Get human interaction. Nature, green spaces. Breathing exercises. INTP? Great. You’re still mostly the same machine that others are. Give yourself the well known maintenance.
Absolutely thank you. Though if I may give a video suggestion: INTP vs INFP. I've been wondering a lot if I'm actually an INTP or just that much of an emotionally repressed INFP. It's been difficult for me to tell the difference, even with as many cognitive function tests that I've taken.
I watched this vid a while ago but the phrase “sometimes things don’t need to be clever, they just need to be done” stuck with me and helped me out. Thank you!
"Taking action" is a huge thing for me to strive, I stopped so many things because I tried to do so many things at a time, I know basic web design, so I wanted to start making websites and having a passive income, knew HTML,CSS, but if I wanted a decent website needed at least PHP for a dynamic website, then needed to know MySql, then wanted to add interactivity to the website, needed to learn JavaScript, then wanted to have nice effect on it, learned to use the jQuery libraries, long story short, learned all of them and I didn't even built the website.
Nathan, Your wording and sentencing is very impressive and full of clarity, I've a problem with being thorough in my research and my thinking, (I had a case of anhedonia for awhile), hearing you speak inspires me because I can probably get that obsessive as well.
Speaking as a fellow obsessive person this is great to hear! The idea that I can sit down in front of a camera and do one of my weird ramblings and have it motivate or inspire someone else is mind blowing! ~ Nathan
Good advice, i discovered the power of Fe, after a long time of bashing people over their heads with the truth (as i saw it). But i discovered something else. An INTP truth is as good as the data he absorbs and process. So a lot of sorting through vasts amounts of data and filtering them is required - that's why people call us lazy- cause we need to read and process, every day, lots and lots of information. Also that's where our insecurity is coming from: is what i know really correct? PS: i have a question for you (Nathan) - are you an INTX type? Maybe even INTP?
Such content can not but to be produced by an INTJ , i mean the organisation as a whole and the structure is subtily more J than P.. Then i think that the approach is rather more « a whole » like to be conceived by Ni than by Ti ...
@ginaintegrityseeker The ESTP is Lu (the other host of the channel) and she said in a video once in the past (or maybe Nathan said it himself) that he was either INTP or ISTP, so S/N being what was hard to figure out, not sure if that has changed since then or anything.
today i was drawing eyebrows on my dog. the first one i drew was perfect, the best eyebrow ive ever drawn, but i couldnt get the second one right. i mustve been there for 10 minutes, erasing and redrawing some eyebrows for my dog tears streaming down my face. in the end i erased them both and made a new set. they turned out pretty well.
I literally have a meeting with my boss tomorrow to discuss where I can fit into the company that fulfills my "natural interests" as I get bored too easily and love shiny new things lol.
@@lovewho I will. It's a small software development business. My bosses want to find me a role that I can thrive and be happy in, one that suits my natural interests. They pointed out that I am easily distracted by new and shiny things but quickly get bored. I deal with customer support, too, which... Isn't for me. We'll see how it goes!
@@TorpisoulYT Interesting so an area I've noticed suits ENTPs and INTPs alike is when they can be involved in whatever the "new thing" thats being created by the company is. For example "rapid prototyping" is something my ENTP friend does where he's responsible for quickly creating a product, not even necessarily an mvp, but something that just proves the idea can exist and work. Then it's up to the other places in the company to figure out how to create the full product, make it scalable it and sell it etc. If the company doesn't have any place within it that offers that then... either try to make one lol or maybe you should be the one asking the company why it doesn't have new things being created rather than them trying to make a place for you! ~ Nathan
@@lovewho yeah, from my research to prepare for the meeting, roles that would suit me and the company would be that kind of thing. I had gravitated to UX design for that very reason. Basically, I just want to be able to say "this part of the software doesn't make sense. To be more logical, this should be X and Y should be moved to Z". I've pinged my boss information on my profile results as an INTP-A to help him understand me. Lol. He got us to do a weird career test thing a few months ago so I imagine he's open to the idea.
Well, this is my opinion, as an INTP (and INTJ) (I often switch between these 2 , this year the former that year the latter etc...), calling for like and subscribe never works for me, because obviously we always analyse things and in this case I'll see whether your channel will benefit me in certain aspects or not to be worth it for my subscription. And so these are the things that made me subscribe to your channel : 1. You know what you're talking about and explain them in a way or order that I think it is easy to follow and fully explained. 2. There are many topics in your channel about INTP/ INTJ that I care about. 3. You help me in expressing myself out with words. 4. The possibility that you're going to produce more useful videos in the future. Your videos are very helpful! @lovewho :) ( English is not my native language so excuse me for my mistakes)
It is very satisfying to see most of my thoughts, organized in a neat way through your very well done videos. Thank you very much for your satisfying work, and keep up the good work!
Comments like this always give me the most amount of satisfaction, when someone says the videos articulate something that is accurate about them ~ Nathan
I'm an intp and I have adhd which is the worst because I want to know everything about everything but my adhd makes me incredibly lazy and just makes me feel like a dumbass
I am 15 and am a INTP [according to the personality test]. I have this strong intuition whereby i had these two friends. when i noticed how inconsistent they had become and how drawn to lying to their parents and misbehaviour they had become, i left them. Just by no t talking to them and not going to their houses, even though we live on the same street. I hate it when people are dishonest and not up front about what they want to say. They beat around the bush. I also hate it when people come to me and i give them advice and they clearly don't follow it. I love it when the consequences come to bite them in the butt. I am the only one of my siblings who can argue and question my parents' authority successfully, that makes them think i am the favourite.
The amount of fights I've gotten in with my father for simply pointing out the contradictions in his thinking in an effort to HELP him... the struggle is real.
I've been forced onto the dancefloor on a mexican wedding by peer pressure, drunk. Embracing the situation knowing full well the unavoidable damage it would cause was the best option. As an INTP I believe in situatiouns of these kinds you have to accept your weakness, and focus on damage mitigation. If you get yourself into a situation where people around you don't see you as an INTP kind of Person it is usually better to be seen as awkward than weird.
Throughout my whole life, I've got so many lame advice that came from the speaker's point of view and experience that I could not relate to. I could tell that they didn't understand my problems in the first place. I watched your video by pure chance, and your solution is to the point, realistic, based on a perfect understanding of how INTPs perceive the world. You made my day(It's the first time in my life that I use this phrase). Thank you so much. from an INTP from South Korea
This was all spot on! If any fellow INTPs feel like it's impossible to learn to quickly move on from embarrassment/your mistakes & embrace them in order to grow & get better - it’s not! I genuinely feel like I've got a hang of it over the past few years. And about going out of your comfortzone - totally agree. We need to find a balance between trying new things and falling back into our bubbles of routine and familiar habits. What I'm still struggling with is the not-using-my-Ti-like-a-hammer thing. Always working on it though! Thank you for the video! Love being analyzed almost as much as analyzing. 😉
One of the most freeing things I've had a boss say to me (granted, as a new hire) was "There are no stupid questions." I can ask any question and not be shot down as stupid? Even if after your answer I feel kinda stupid? Whoa! Since then I've tried to offer others the same liberty, which I think people appreciate especially from INTPs, since people generally see us as "the smart ones(tm)," and we can seem aloof or elitist if we forget ourselves.
Sherlock Holmes was an INTJ. They're the chess players. I found out why there has always been an awkward silence between Stephen King and I on Twitter. Probably the reason he doesn't want to discuss H.P. Lovecraft. I suspected Jules Verne when I got my first MBTI results. Who doesn't suspect Lewis Carroll?
Thank you! Ive been changing my mind on what type I was for years, everything was right this time. Definitely INTP, you will help me make my life easier when dealing with others now after recognising my diffcult areas. Great advice! I'll get on with it now.
Schmoozing is definitely the answer when debating or at work when Ti is in control. But not so much help to me in more tricky social situations like... uuummm... flirting with someone I like haha... when my Ti haywires and my Fe is scared shitless. It'll be great if you'd make a video of INTP in love and flirting
I remembered that I had adjustable weights in my trunk from a year or so ago. So, I took them completely apart, cleaned them, and put them back together. Best decision I've made all week and it was almost therapeutic. That's probably the first and last time this week I'll use them.
lmao i literally yesterday was telling my family that despite staying in bed all day my brain was working constantly and it takes more effort than physical activity so they shouldn't complain to me about how tired they are. did not know this was a general intp thing lol
Another great/insightful video! Would love to hear you address reflexivity in relation to your analyses, your own type, your relationship with typology and how you arrive at these ideas. Or if that was already discussed in another video then oops! Thanks Nathan :)
My tactic is to smile and act jovial when I’m talking and especially if I’m talking about some deep issue that may upset people. You can see that they react to the positive emotional body language and hardly notice that your discussing the morality of why you can’t eat babies.
This is such amazingly helpful advice. I do alright at being as charming as possible before picking apart positions. But the bit about sweating the small stuff before bring perfection back into a project makes me believe that I have been on the right track with some of my new goals. I was feeling like most people would have created something straightaway, but I am putting more effort into the prep phase. I thought it was insecurity and procrastination, but I can see it as laying the groundwork for the perfection I see in my mind. I am bolstered by your words. I would love to see INTP advice for decision-making and follow through.
" I am bolstered by your words" - I can't tell you how good that feels to hear, keep lining things up, then when you're ready, your natural inclinations will do the work for you ~ Nathan
“Be as charming as possible” Some people have broken it down into more concrete steps of how to be listened to. I don’t remember it all, but it can help to begin an email on a positive note. Begin an argument with an outlining of where you think the person-to-be-convinced is absolutely correct.
When I was a kid and a teen you could say I lived inside my mind. My mind was my favourite place in the world. Then I went through a short period of depression during my early twenties, and now I'm okay, but after that I don't feel as comfortable in my mind. Because when I started thinking, I remembered episodes of my depression and I got sad and angry every single time. It doesn't happen to me now, I can think for hours without getting sad, but I got used to trying to shut my thoughts doing mundane stuff like listening to music or doing jigsaws. I also walk a lot. The thing is I never get lost in my thoughts as I used to, but I'm not sure if it's a good or a bad thing. Also three months ago I ended a relationship that lasted 8 years (basically all my adult life). I broke up with my ex because I felt I don't love him anymore, but now I realise how lonely I really am, because he was the only person I could trust with my thoughts and the only one who really knew me. Since we broke up I feel I'm alone with my thoughts again, and I'm scared to the point I consider getting back together with him. And now I'm so lonely I use old youtube videos as my personal diary 😅
Without making yourself physically sick .. literally laughed out loud here...a few years back I had a conversation with someone on this topic.. he suggested that I could learn to be more charming .. I replied when I try I feel sick to my stomach .. literally ...
Wait a god damn minute : he is HOW old?! 25? That is... i assumed he was in his early 30. Not, bc he looks old but because he knows so much and seems to be so experienced. That, and the marriage thing if i didn't misunderstood everything. I'm 19 and now I feel like i have to hurry up 😂.
I'm an INTP and also happen to be good looking and a former D1 baseball player. I say this for context, not arrogance. It was always a struggle to be myself bc people expected me to be a certain way. My brain during pitching was thinking about such random and distracting things that I literally had to turn it off in order to be successful. The thoughts we have are so deep that it can affect anything happening, even if just a physical sport.
An INTP in sport is fascinating too, in what ways do you think your type/way of analysing the game gave you a competitive advantage/what issues did it cause? ~ Nathan
@@lovewho it's caused A LOT of issues. Whereas most players don't really think and enjoy the game, my brain was always overanalyzing everything and trying to predict outcomes based on what I did. So, instead of just throwing the ball, or think about getting the perfect leg kick, where I was looking, people in the stands, etc. I finally overcame this and became a top 10 national pitcher but I went through A LOT of dark moments because of my INTP thinking. It's a magical curse..that's what I tell my wife after I tell her the 5th random fact of the day lol
@@lovewho and in order to be prepared for the game, I'd basically have to isolate myself from social fun bc it would drain my mind too much. Was pretty tough with a team full of extroverts..
When did you have more fun and achieved more success - when you were playing the game while thinking and over analyzing or when you were playing for fun?
Lol INTPs always watch from the shadows, we will subscribe when we feel you said something useful :) and you said many useful and related things. So you have my vote
Great video and certainly good advice as far as I undestood it fully. My non native english is limiting my understanding of things like "take action'' though. Does that mean: 'Think it over once again to further improve the idea'?
That’s an extremely healthy realization. Instead of “Ill never be as charming as that guy,” make it “I am probably predisposed to underestimate the practicality of being charming, and the more charming I can become the better”
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I’m an INTP and just thinking about how I probably need more INTP friends with developed Fe. It just seems rare though most are ENTP or INTJ
I just want to watch the world burn (:
Oh my GOSH....you are only 27 NOW? You are a wealth of information and I assumed you just looked young for a 37 year old. You Go Guy :) I have learned much from you this spring.
Since you discuss the expressing thoughts in a less structured thought trains seem to be your very style of video. Are you an INTP?
"INTPs see thinking as an activity."
What the hell. This is so real.
For just a second I was like, "You mean other people don't?" and was genuinely surprised. Then I thought about how some of the people I know would see it and I was like, "Oh." Kinda knocks you down a peg, doesn't it? When I learn something new or have come to a satisfying end to a train of though/decision, I honestly feel like I accomplished something. Sad that a lot of other people don't see it that way.
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Yes, which means that our thinking often trumps our doing. If we've got it all figured out in our minds, we rarely feel the need to put those thoughts into practice. It's quite strange actually...
@@h.louise4746 Yah. Having determined the absolute coolness of something I'm much more likely to... add it to the COOLNESS PILE and never do it again.
Omg yes
Being INTP is both blessing and a curse.
Amen ~ Nathan
Correction : being an INXX is in itself a source of pride and suffering.
I feel like INxx are the ones who truly know and understand the world and human nature in general it feels like you know something nihilism at its finest I guess
@@popkhorne5372 😅😅😅😅😅
i've come to a conclusion that ignorance is a better blessing and sometimes i think that the blue pill might be the way to go :(
You know your an INTP when the people you like the most are the people most willing to engage in an argument.
YESSS
Sometimes, I provoke little disputes just to see how the other person will react. Yikes, I'm a weirdo. I don't like shouting though.
@@h.louise4746 exactly the same with me.
Probably Any NTP actually.
I know no one who I don’t somehow offend during the argument or take my points personally and get sad
"offending humans.....I mean, People"
*DED*
Lol couldn't resist ~ Nathan
*dead :)
@@RC--tw7em tsokke
what's funny is that I actually talk like that about humans. being INTP is hard, man
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
'Sometimes things dont need to be clever, they just need to be done'
Haha! Didn't mean to start triggering any sensing ~ Nathan
@@lovewho oh im not a sensor.
Im INTP and im triggering to the sensors in my life.
Triggering to sensors.... omg yes 🤣
This. This is what I'm trying to manage. How I haven't been fired, yet, I don't know.
im so confused what is a sensor. we all have six senses
INTP’s are often described as highly intelligent, I feel like I’m on the lower end of the INTP intelligence spectrum. >~
I've noticed that intelligence, although extremely useful in many ways, rarely wins against other traits like: determination, grit, consistency, willingness to fail etc... So you don't have anything to worry about. ~ Nathan
Love Who that’s not true, IQ is the best predictor of success
@@robloxloversixnine it depends, depending not only about raw intelligence but other type of abilities, AND LUCK (yeah, some people can be called "lucky" or "luckier" than others) you'd have success, because trust me, high IQ does not mean successful life, but I think you quite had that figured out.
@@juanmanuelmoramontes3883 well not precisely IQ but intelligence in any form can totally determine success. Emotionally intelligent people are often the most successful if paired with IQ intelligence.
I feel the same way.. I mean, I'm terrible at things like math and physics even though I find them to be very interesting :|
You know myself better than I do
Well... thank you ~ Nathan
"Watches from the shadow without subscribing" 😐
I mean to be fair... I do that all the time with channels I watch ~ Nathan
I felt attacked when he said that 😔
👀
If I like 5 videos I sub.
I cant sleep after watching your video
You know you're an INTP when you doubt that if you're really an INTP , even though you've taken the test more than 30 times .
Edit: been through shitty times , and I'm an infp now .
Me too
or INTJ.
YESS god one time i thought i can be intj Bec i did an organized notebook .. well apparently i realized that well being intj are more then just being organized and they have different rules in life and thoughts .. well i had high hopes there .. but Man being an intj maybe better when it comes to educational system and being able to get work done and ACHIEVING something ..or did i miss read intj .. maybe
we're the shit.
@@KatherineLWince not always though , sometimes we can come out as genius
"In a sense intp and they approach to life is fighting against human nature" so accurate 👀
Not an easy fight to win ~ Nathan
I like ur name and your profile tho
Human nature as we see it today is anything but natural. Some people are far more capable for adapting to new norms than others, but that shit ain't gonna fly with me. I guess you could argue that human nature has "progressed" by proxy, but I'd say it's regressed and I won't allow, nor support it.
@@waffleisnice wtf
That stood out to me as well. "Oh, that IS what I'm doing."
My biggest INTP issue is people thinking I enjoy their company when I'm actually trying to figure them out and analysing why they are so irritating or their logic is flawed. I don't like you, your fallacies are a puzzle I just solve.
Haha! This is such an INTP comment. I enjoyed this greatly "a puzzle I just solve" - amen ~ Nathan
That sounds like Dr. House
I'm constantly wondering if I'm a bad person by making someone I dislike think I like them. Deep down I feel this annoyance by them but I'm too much of a coward to just say what my conclusions are on why I dislike them.
Emily Blackie so you are an elitist lacking in self awareness (since you did decide to post this).
@@quintuplebanned4267 no, she's just INTP.
You talked about the stupid zone. Why must you reveal our secrets, Nathan?
My bad! I'll do a video retracting my comments and will denounce the stupid zone as a myth ~ Nathan
Lol
Wait, is the stupid zone like playing dumb? I I need to rewatch the whole video as I think I got distracted a couple of times (can you tell I’m an INTP?)
@@RichH93 I rewinded about 10 times
Richard M. Hall The stupid zone is basically a category that we place people into who struggle to understand or have intellectual and deep conversations. I thought I was the only one until I learned about personality types and saw this video...
The key is not to continually go out of your comfort zone; but continually increase the area of your confort zone.
I needed to hear this. Thank you
Great advice
BRO YES
You just said synonyms, practically.
No, there is a difference. It’s like expanding the land you own without getting out of it vs going outside your property @@prometheus9443
"Let's create an INTP army"
Me, an INTP who's always wanted an army: :)
Me, realizing having an army involves interpersonal communication: :(
Me, an INTP, totally bought into the concept of an INTP army:
It would definitely work if you used Zoom & only let one person be unmuted at a time.
@@Skyprince27 and no one would have camera on
I actually enjoy leadership roles 🤭 -intp
INTP's of the world . . . UNITE!!!
No...just taking orders.
Here is more dodgy advice for INTP's. Play more dungeons and dragons and make sure you are the Dungeon master. You will have to make quick decisions. You'll have to talk in front of a group of people and organize like hell. At the same time, you will love creating a world full of characters and stories as you logically piece the laws of the world together.
INTP's love their comfort zones but life will constantly push you to get out of it. This is always uncomfortable. Try to think about how you can use this uncomfortable situation and turn it into knowledge. Find a way to apply it to your hobby. Take control over the task instead of the other way around.
I approve this comment! ~ Nathan
I was the eternal DM/GM, but prefer playing more. I can get outside of my comfort zone and just play pretend as a character instead of the rigid structure I have when I DM.
...and find yourself an INTJ. You're capable of actually respecting us and vice versa.
My best friend is an INTP. We have a great time bouncing creative ideas off of each other and we're both pragmatic in very different ways.
We also struggle with Se; so of course, we often end up laughing at each other.
@@dacksonflux I think INTJs are egoist and they think they know everything better than other people which is unattractice
@@Lungsucker You don't say Ricardo.
I need this. I personally have an issue with not controlling myself. I correct people on everything they do wrong. I wish I didn’t care so much about fixing minor flaws in people.
Yes it’s hard to resist using your main strength all the time... eventually it becomes the whole: “when you’re a hammer every problem looks like a nail” scenario ~ Nathan
@ginaintegrityseeker the irony is so satisfying
nah fam thats just OCD
@@_xxpegasusxx_7204 Agreed. I don't need to correct anything. That's why I have Le' Stupid Zone and limit my exposure... Ya'll act like social distancing was discovered this year.
@@suigenris lol
Another great video. Sometimes It feels like I have an inferiority complex and a God complex at the same time. At least one of those is unjustified. Thanks for all the excellent content!
Haha! “Inferiority complex and God complex at the same time” - very true ~ Nathan
Yep
My insecurity paradox is that I assume myself to be below average, but then I’m confused as to why people act dumb and irrational. Then it just cycles
At least one of them IS unjustified - but which one?
Are you telling me not everyone on Earth has this??
Oh yeah I have so high expectations of myself in terms to be logical and rational and I get very annoyed with myself when my emotions appear and make me act irrational. But It's so hard to not be self-critical...
Yes... it’s seems that INTPs can fall into having impossibly high standards in this area often ~ Nathan
You know, You could benefit from self criticism .
As an INTP, these months, I tried to listen to my self-critical, as I know it always there. Just listen, like listening to someone talking without carried by it. It was really hard at first, but it saved me from drowning into my perfectionist nature.
I died at "offending humans...er... people". Never related to anything more in my life. It's like you know... XD
Lol sometimes it’s easier to forget that you yourself are also one of these so called humans ~ Nathan
Love Who that’s 100% true especially when you are relying a lot on logic and not emotion! Creates a nice paradox where we separate ourselves from people and then go... wait but I am one... I think you mentioned that in the video actually. So perfect example of that!
As an INTP extremum I have a hard time recognizing real life from my imaginations sometimes. And way back when I was like 13 I thought of being an alien because of feeling children not understanding me. My friend catched that up and after a while there were times I was able to forget that in fact I'm not an alien.
INTP checklist:
Write an essay in the comment answer - done
@@lovewho true
Friend: What did you do today?
Me, an INTP who has been in quarantine for two months and barely noticed: I argued with myself for an hour over whether or not I should eat a vegetable today, then I created an entire novel plot while sitting on the couch for four hours.
Friend: .........
Me: I also memorized the periodic table and 100 digits of pi because I finished building my mind palace.
Friend: *awkwardly shuffles away*
HAHA!!!! This comment is just hilarious ~ Nathan
I am laughing so hard ;DDDDD
I think you meant "an old friend of mine"
Why do I actually do this...........everyday
Am I the only INTP who doesn’t have a mind palace? Stupid brain can’t even INTP properly.
INTP females have it the worst. We are in opposition to the “typical female” format. I’m too logical to deal with most other people. I overthink and deduce everything, which others perceive as cold or uninterested. I’m hopeless.
I feel you , girl . Sometimes it's not perceived as an attractive quality to men to be overly logical and less emotionally expressive . It just sucks .
True. However, the happiest INTP females I know learn to accept themselves for who they are. Also, if you can get yourself into a room full of INTP males, your popularity score will go through the roof.
@@stevedavenport1202 I’ve accepted it, thus, I stopped looking for someone because I’m rather happy in my own mind.
I find that all the men I have found say that I’m perfect, yet cannot tolerate me when I correct their utter wrongness. It’s frustrating when one is in the dating pool. Or they take advantage of my kindness and finances.
@@stevedavenport1202
IKR, if Jenna was on INTP Bachelorette, I would for-sure sign up!
@@stevedavenport1202 INTP pus INTJ is also a pretty compatible combo.
I am the philosopher type of INTP. It's impossible to stay one second without thinking. Every little thing captured by my eyes become one entire year of study, meditation, questions, answer and doubts.....
Same bro same
I wish I understood how lucky we are to have this trait at a much younger age. Please, embrace it.
That sounds inefficient
we need (intps) a person like this , who can put 20 min worth of talking in just 8:49 min , with the help of clear ,to the point and precise language.
Well I'm at your disposal ~ Nathan
@@lovewho aww, thanks :)
@Zhiyue Yang omg 2x for me 😂🤦♀️
index with bullet points or even numbered in order are nice.
@@leejaerim8972 3.5x
My guess: INTPs have to accept that mediocre really is ok.
Mediocre is not okay. However, good enough is good enough.
is it really...
Never
lol tf you talking about
I do accept it. But every time it seems like I have to accept it more (and more, and more) and, that, I don't like.
"Offending Humans.... I mean ... people"
Hilarious and genius twist only INTPs will understand.
Was it only me that felt anger rising at the thought of charming people instead of methodically crushing them and their arguments devoid of any coherent thought?
No I can assure you that it wasn't just you! There's lot's of us that aren't happy about that fact! ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Trying to charm people is insulting. It's like saying "you are unable to process information so i have to wrap it in cheese or ham like a pill for a dog"
@@anitamuscaria497 I completely agree. It also completely goes against my sense of authenticity and truth. If you’re being disingenuous, you feel like a Holden Caulfield-esque phony. It is also terribly illogical. Why do I have to pretend to be something I’m not just so you will listen to the damn truth? Ugh. This is why I have to learn yearly to just bite my tongue more often.
I get that. After flipping the "say it with honey" switch on, it feels like I have to go home and scrape off the thick muck of a mask sometimes. Yet, what keeps me doing it is that they are more likely to listen and be a better person for society's sake, which helps me to have hope for humanity as a whole.
Me too. I thought like "I would rather not deal with people I need to charm."
“You're never as good as everyone tells you when you win, and you're never as bad as they say when you lose.”
~ Lou Holtz
Exaggeration belike
Not always true, some successes are overstated, some failures overstated.
Markets overshoot true value in both directions
"Be as charming and schmoozy as you possibly can, without making yourself physically sick."
Slap that on an INTJ mug and I'll buy it.
OK I can certainly do that!! Check back on there tomorrow! ~ Nathan
Me too!
@@lovewho o.k, I'll snatch one up when I get paid.
Dackson Flux is that even close to possible, for my most favorite personality type ever, in the entire world, the INTJ?
@@quintuplebanned4267 you just reminded me to get one of these mugs. Thanks.
Very well done. Insightful. When I was a kid, Dad took me aside....before Mom could strangle me...and said, "Don't think that, just because you know the truth, you have to say it." It was a revelation at the time. 😄
It's simple but endlessly useful advice in all walks of life! ~ Nathan
"be as charming and schmoozing as you possibly can... without being sick" made my day
Haha! Glad to hear it ~ Nathan
But how can we be charming if small talk is effort...
@@RichH93 no magic here, just years of training. And even then it's hard
Taking action is hard for INTP. So true... You realized it after a huge amount of unfinished projects or just actions. I don’t want to continue, because everyone knows it very well here.
I just wanted to mention one interesting thing that occurred with me in one of the darkest period of my life. I lost my job and I didn’t know what to do with my life in general, I was broken. When everything reached its boiling point, something had changed in my mind. Everything became very clear and I reached very different state of my mind, I named it “voice of common sense”. It was like an adviser. This state guided me to healthy actions. It was very smart and reasonable and I didn’t have any contradiction or doubts as any INTP has. It was some sort of an advanced version of my mind.
Have you experienced something like this? How to explain this? How to manage it consciously?
Yeah, typical INTP’s questions.😂
I have this too. I like to divide everything that i do with those two things. For once my brain and second my as you said „voice of common sense“. For example my brain and hormones that its produces wants me to eat something bad but my common sense knows that its not what i want but my brain so i dont do it. Its really hard to explain tho
Sometimes, when there are difficult tasks that I cannot handle. I will take a break/play a tv game/take a walk. All of a sudden, an idea from nowhere will be pop-up to solve the task (similar to your mentioned "voice")
I have done that. Recorded a 40 minute theory then realized the camera was off. I hurled the computer out of the the window...in my mind.
I never noticed how focused I was on perfectionism until this year while I was making a charcoal drawing for art
I was drawing a picture of my cat and the rough draft looked great- it was probably the best I had ever drawn anything realistically. Of course after the draft, I was supposed to start on the actual project and I started sketching out the cat on my project paper but it just didn't look right. So I kept erasing and redrawing and getting new pieces of paper until my teacher stepped in and said that it didn't have to be perfect.
I did, in fact, start crying out of frustration at that point, which just made me feel worse.
Anywayyy, long story short, I got to trace that initial draft onto the actual project paper and the drawing is hanging up in the living room.
This has been my TEDtalk
I enjoyed your TED talk very much ~ Nathan
Beauty in mess
~ cries in artist INTP language
@salty spoon lol You are awesome!
As an artist and also an INTP I can relate to this very much
You're so right! Spot on. I laughed at "be shmoozey, without making yourself physically sick".
You certainly know more about this stuff than I did when I was 25.
I'm sub'd and bell'd.
But... I'm mug-less. Do they come in double-walled vacuum-insulated easy-to-clean non-spill-lid large-size travel mugs?
Lol yea I could sense that INTPs would be recoiling in horror at that part! ~ Nathan
So right now they are just... conventional mugs. Although this comment is low key motivating me to want to make flasks ~ Nathan
My brother is intp... he uses humor to push his logic... his a lawyer and a entrepreneur... his very sweet but straightforward (people love him)... I think your environment helps too... my dad uses humor to make people listen but his isfj...
Humour is such an excellent communicative tool. It's instantly endearing and disarming in equal measure, both your brother and Dad sound pretty cool! ~ Nathan
Being self critical and trying to remove human aspects are major issues for me. Regarding your example, whether I get too heated in an argument or even if I remain calm and objective in an argument (which is preferable) I look back and over analyze things to the point where I make myself uncomfortable no matter what. Very seldom am I up to my standards, and when I actually am, it’s hard for me to get off my high horse. Then I conclude that it’s best to just eliminate interactions all together. And sensory aspects of being human are the most uncomfortable for me. Because of this, I don’t always take the best care of myself physically (forget the eat, brush my hair, do my nails, etc.) because I often see it as irrelevant, forget about it, or it’s an obstacle to my never-ending train of thought. I also don’t like being in a human body so that’s an issue. (😂)
But you’ve probably done far better at living up to your own standards than have the people with whom you were arguing
INTP in an argument - I am not arguing. I am explaining why I am right.
😂 exactly!
Remember to listen
This is such great advice!! Even for me an infp and i can definitely relate to not being able to explain to people that all i did today was sit here and think. And it felt incredibly fulfilling and having to force myself out of that to do "real world" things is very very tiring.
Also, the whole charm during argument things reminded me of a quote i was told by an ENTJ that helped them deal with "humans".
If you are right and you are an asshole, people will remember you were an asshole. If you are right and you are gracious, people will remember you were right.
That quote is amazing!! ~ Nathan
Totally relate to the first half.
The quote is kinda wrong tho. If you’re an asshole who is wrong but reconfirms wrong worldviews, people will remember that you are right.
If you are gracious and are right, many will think you’re dumb.
The fallacy of the quote is in assuming that people come to the correct conclusion about what is right. More often they don’t
I've noticed that only about 1/4 of the INTPs who are responding have 'edited' their comments. This could mean the following: That some did edit, then cut/copied the comment, deleted what was on the screen, and then repasted so as to hide any sign of errors; that not all those posting are INTPs; that certain INTPs have been remiss in spell-checking themselves enough times to find spelling errors and fixing them. INTPs who haven't edited, are you SURE that your post was sufficiently spelled and composed according to UA-cam comment section standards? ;)
I have never noticed this before... but now I won't be able to stop checking to see how many edited comments there are ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Haha!
I think the high Ti -and- Ne are the killer combo with this. A peek to the INTP UA-camr's comment development:
*wants to be precise*
(Much think, many ideas)
*Filter, maybe follow that rabbit trail of a word that's only half-formed in brain and is definitely not the other word in your brain*
(Review, double check your sentence editing didn't leave vestigial words from rewording phrases)
*submit*
(Minding own business)
*more ideas, also... did you word it that one way that you're thinking of rn? Cuz that's not anywhere near precision*
(Edit: I'm working on submitting comments in under a week, but that means I did it not-the-best-my-brain-could-ever-possibly-make)
Lots of times I just delete the comment altogether, but as for other times what you said seems pretty accurate for me too haha
Hilariously accurate. I fought myself editing a previously entered comment on this page. (Really?? Do you need to edit every comment, every text message, every everything you ever write??) Don't ask me how many times I reworded this simple comment before pressing reply.
"Putting people in the 'stupid zone'"
I checked mine and yeaaaaah....
I put a ton of people in there for good reason and funny enough, you touched on it - logical inconsistencies.
And yeah thinking is one of my favorite ways to spend a weekend.
Your UA-cam example is perfect. I do my best work when I can sidestep my perfectionist tendencies.
It’s okay to have high standards for yourself and life in general. Nothing wrong with that.
The issue comes when they don’t appreciate what they have and what they’ve achieved (which may seem brilliant for all the world and mediocre for them).
Even if anything in their lives meets their standards, they are never happy and satisfied.
The first thing the Intp need to learn is to appreciate their efforts and things in general only then they’ll feel satisfied and motivated.
Off course this is from my infp perspective.
Very well said! ~ Nathan
No because this is why milestones such as birthdays or graduations are so hard for me. :( but working on it!
I fall into the very unhealthy INTP and it’s gotten very bad, honestly don’t feel like I’m myself anymore. Just stuck in a dark room all the time, I can’t even think logically anymore...
I have the same problem. Just know you're not alone
Remember that the standard health advice applies to intps.
Get regular exercise and veggies.
Make your sleep schedule regular.
Get human interaction.
Nature, green spaces. Breathing exercises.
INTP? Great. You’re still mostly the same machine that others are. Give yourself the well known maintenance.
Absolutely thank you. Though if I may give a video suggestion: INTP vs INFP. I've been wondering a lot if I'm actually an INTP or just that much of an emotionally repressed INFP. It's been difficult for me to tell the difference, even with as many cognitive function tests that I've taken.
I'd love this too - I'm always typed as INFP but for my cognitive functions I have way too much Ti...
Most probably you are an INTP-5w4 like me
What do you do,when you are bored?
I’ll definitely do this one soon! ~ Nathan
@@Kokola-qh9wp I guess u r an
Intp
5 wing 4
I watched this vid a while ago but the phrase “sometimes things don’t need to be clever, they just need to be done” stuck with me and helped me out. Thank you!
"Taking action" is a huge thing for me to strive, I stopped so many things because I tried to do so many things at a time, I know basic web design, so I wanted to start making websites and having a passive income, knew HTML,CSS, but if I wanted a decent website needed at least PHP for a dynamic website, then needed to know MySql, then wanted to add interactivity to the website, needed to learn JavaScript, then wanted to have nice effect on it, learned to use the jQuery libraries, long story short, learned all of them and I didn't even built the website.
Great quote, don’t know who it’s by. ‘Correct a fool and they will hate you, correct a wise man and he will be grateful’ 👍🏽
Intp here, learning to search my most hated list for wisdom
Nathan,
Your wording and sentencing is very impressive and full of clarity, I've a problem with being thorough in my research and my thinking, (I had a case of anhedonia for awhile), hearing you speak inspires me because I can probably get that obsessive as well.
Speaking as a fellow obsessive person this is great to hear! The idea that I can sit down in front of a camera and do one of my weird ramblings and have it motivate or inspire someone else is mind blowing! ~ Nathan
Good advice, i discovered the power of Fe, after a long time of bashing people over their heads with the truth (as i saw it). But i discovered something else. An INTP truth is as good as the data he absorbs and process. So a lot of sorting through vasts amounts of data and filtering them is required - that's why people call us lazy- cause we need to read and process, every day, lots and lots of information. Also that's where our insecurity is coming from: is what i know really correct?
PS: i have a question for you (Nathan) - are you an INTX type? Maybe even INTP?
He is
Such content can not but to be produced by an INTJ , i mean the organisation as a whole and the structure is subtily more J than P.. Then i think that the approach is rather more « a whole » like to be conceived by Ni than by Ti ...
@ginaintegrityseeker The ESTP is Lu (the other host of the channel) and she said in a video once in the past (or maybe Nathan said it himself) that he was either INTP or ISTP, so S/N being what was hard to figure out, not sure if that has changed since then or anything.
INTP saying, yes, he very much is an INTP.
As tho I’d trust him if he told me what he thinks he is.
I trust myself far less.
he knows about the stupid zone!! we've been had, run for the hills!!!
My apologies for saying it publicly ~ Nathan
INTP Master Race Rise Up!!!
It begins... ~ Nathan
MAHAHAHAHAHAHAH-!
er, no.
these are the intjs...
@@georgexm2032 we are second in command and more than the sum of our parts
Gross
today i was drawing eyebrows on my dog. the first one i drew was perfect, the best eyebrow ive ever drawn, but i couldnt get the second one right. i mustve been there for 10 minutes, erasing and redrawing some eyebrows for my dog tears streaming down my face. in the end i erased them both and made a new set. they turned out pretty well.
I literally have a meeting with my boss tomorrow to discuss where I can fit into the company that fulfills my "natural interests" as I get bored too easily and love shiny new things lol.
Interesting, now I'm curious what kind of company it is and how the meeting goes...comment and let us know what happens! ~ Nathan
@@lovewho I will. It's a small software development business. My bosses want to find me a role that I can thrive and be happy in, one that suits my natural interests. They pointed out that I am easily distracted by new and shiny things but quickly get bored. I deal with customer support, too, which... Isn't for me.
We'll see how it goes!
I realise I've pretty much just repeated myself...
@@TorpisoulYT Interesting so an area I've noticed suits ENTPs and INTPs alike is when they can be involved in whatever the "new thing" thats being created by the company is. For example "rapid prototyping" is something my ENTP friend does where he's responsible for quickly creating a product, not even necessarily an mvp, but something that just proves the idea can exist and work.
Then it's up to the other places in the company to figure out how to create the full product, make it scalable it and sell it etc.
If the company doesn't have any place within it that offers that then... either try to make one lol or maybe you should be the one asking the company why it doesn't have new things being created rather than them trying to make a place for you!
~ Nathan
@@lovewho yeah, from my research to prepare for the meeting, roles that would suit me and the company would be that kind of thing. I had gravitated to UX design for that very reason. Basically, I just want to be able to say "this part of the software doesn't make sense. To be more logical, this should be X and Y should be moved to Z".
I've pinged my boss information on my profile results as an INTP-A to help him understand me. Lol. He got us to do a weird career test thing a few months ago so I imagine he's open to the idea.
"Intps dont expend energy" I don't agree as thinking is highly energy intensive.
Ok thats true ~ Nathan
I literally eat more on coding days
“ As well as subscribing which I know you did at the start of the video” this man is to strong too be left alive ( mind reading )
"...then forget the camera is off." As an INTP, this is how it goes for me every week.
Well, this is my opinion, as an INTP (and INTJ) (I often switch between these 2 , this year the former that year the latter etc...), calling for like and subscribe never works for me, because obviously we always analyse things and in this case I'll see whether your channel will benefit me in certain aspects or not to be worth it for my subscription. And so these are the things that made me subscribe to your channel :
1. You know what you're talking about and explain them in a way or order that I think it is easy to follow and fully explained.
2. There are many topics in your channel about INTP/ INTJ that I care about.
3. You help me in expressing myself out with words.
4. The possibility that you're going to produce more useful videos in the future.
Your videos are very helpful! @lovewho :)
( English is not my native language so excuse me for my mistakes)
It is very satisfying to see most of my thoughts, organized in a neat way through your very well done videos. Thank you very much for your satisfying work, and keep up the good work!
Comments like this always give me the most amount of satisfaction, when someone says the videos articulate something that is accurate about them ~ Nathan
I'm an intp and I have adhd which is the worst because I want to know everything about everything but my adhd makes me incredibly lazy and just makes me feel like a dumbass
I am 15 and am a INTP [according to the personality test]. I have this strong intuition whereby i had these two friends. when i noticed how inconsistent they had become and how drawn to lying to their parents and misbehaviour they had become, i left them. Just by no t talking to them and not going to their houses, even though we live on the same street. I hate it when people are dishonest and not up front about what they want to say. They beat around the bush. I also hate it when people come to me and i give them advice and they clearly don't follow it. I love it when the consequences come to bite them in the butt. I am the only one of my siblings who can argue and question my parents' authority successfully, that makes them think i am the favourite.
Keep your ego in check and you’ll be a great asset to your siblings who might not reason as well.
The amount of fights I've gotten in with my father for simply pointing out the contradictions in his thinking in an effort to HELP him... the struggle is real.
As an INTP, I feel very attacked, yet grateful for this video. Thanks for the great content! Take care.
Ok, I've just subscribed. I was one of those INTP watching from the shadows 😂
I've been forced onto the dancefloor on a mexican wedding by peer pressure, drunk. Embracing the situation knowing full well the unavoidable damage it would cause was the best option. As an INTP I believe in situatiouns of these kinds you have to accept your weakness, and focus on damage mitigation. If you get yourself into a situation where people around you don't see you as an INTP kind of Person it is usually better to be seen as awkward than weird.
Throughout my whole life, I've got so many lame advice that came from the speaker's point of view and experience that I could not relate to.
I could tell that they didn't understand my problems in the first place.
I watched your video by pure chance, and your solution is to the point, realistic, based on a perfect understanding of how INTPs perceive the world.
You made my day(It's the first time in my life that I use this phrase).
Thank you so much.
from an INTP from South Korea
This was all spot on! If any fellow INTPs feel like it's impossible to learn to quickly move on from embarrassment/your mistakes & embrace them in order to grow & get better - it’s not! I genuinely feel like I've got a hang of it over the past few years. And about going out of your comfortzone - totally agree. We need to find a balance between trying new things and falling back into our bubbles of routine and familiar habits. What I'm still struggling with is the not-using-my-Ti-like-a-hammer thing. Always working on it though!
Thank you for the video! Love being analyzed almost as much as analyzing. 😉
Well I love analysing you so we've got a good thing going on here clearly ~ Nathan
One of the most freeing things I've had a boss say to me (granted, as a new hire) was "There are no stupid questions."
I can ask any question and not be shot down as stupid? Even if after your answer I feel kinda stupid? Whoa!
Since then I've tried to offer others the same liberty, which I think people appreciate especially from INTPs, since people generally see us as "the smart ones(tm)," and we can seem aloof or elitist if we forget ourselves.
@@jamersbazuka8055 Yes. Once I experienced the same, I have said it to others and similarly set them free. 😄
If I feel it’s impossible… it is?
Most demotivating typo I’ve encouraged this year
@@SigFigNewton …Wow. Took only 3 years for someone to point this out! Thanks.
wow you get it so well. Thank you very much, this is what we INTP's really need.
That's great to hear, glad you liked it ~ Nathan
Just casually watching this and then THERE IS A SHERLOCK REFERENCE OMG
Sherlock Holmes was an INTJ. They're the chess players. I found out why there has always been an awkward silence between Stephen King and I on Twitter. Probably the reason he doesn't want to discuss H.P. Lovecraft. I suspected Jules Verne when I got my first MBTI results. Who doesn't suspect Lewis Carroll?
Fighting against human nature is an interesting framing of how chaotic INTPs appear to be. I hadn't considered that. Thanks :)
“Don't worry, I thought this through.”
**nods approvingly**
Thank you! Ive been changing my mind on what type I was for years, everything was right this time. Definitely INTP, you will help me make my life easier when dealing with others now after recognising my diffcult areas. Great advice! I'll get on with it now.
Beep Boop, this unit has passed inspection and is awating orders.
When will madao bloom?
When bro said "puts people in a stupid zone" I felt that
Schmoozing is definitely the answer when debating or at work when Ti is in control. But not so much help to me in more tricky social situations like... uuummm... flirting with someone I like haha... when my Ti haywires and my Fe is scared shitless. It'll be great if you'd make a video of INTP in love and flirting
Also, I tried ordering a mug, but no option to ship to the Philippines :(
Thats a really good idea for a video series actually! ~ Nathan
@@wyxiecarolina Oh no!!!! Thats a shame. Well if you're ever visiting the UK lol I'll give you a mug in person ~ Nathan
0:10 INTP’s globally in unison raise an eyebrow and silently chuckle with one though in mind: “Are you sure about that?”
I remembered that I had adjustable weights in my trunk from a year or so ago. So, I took them completely apart, cleaned them, and put them back together. Best decision I've made all week and it was almost therapeutic. That's probably the first and last time this week I'll use them.
I agree when you said we don't enjoy the mundane parts of a project. we excel at what comes easily to us (creativity and intellect)
Well played, subbed
Thank you!! Hopefully our content keeps you interested long term! ~ Nathan
true, setting up the environment is difficult for me and I often do it last which drains me ...thank you for the advice
lmao i literally yesterday was telling my family that despite staying in bed all day my brain was working constantly and it takes more effort than physical activity so they shouldn't complain to me about how tired they are. did not know this was a general intp thing lol
It certainly is an INTP thing!! ~ Nathan
Bros this is crazy how spot on you you are
Another great/insightful video! Would love to hear you address reflexivity in relation to your analyses, your own type, your relationship with typology and how you arrive at these ideas. Or if that was already discussed in another video then oops! Thanks Nathan :)
My tactic is to smile and act jovial when I’m talking and especially if I’m talking about some deep issue that may upset people. You can see that they react to the positive emotional body language and hardly notice that your discussing the morality of why you can’t eat babies.
This is such amazingly helpful advice. I do alright at being as charming as possible before picking apart positions. But the bit about sweating the small stuff before bring perfection back into a project makes me believe that I have been on the right track with some of my new goals. I was feeling like most people would have created something straightaway, but I am putting more effort into the prep phase. I thought it was insecurity and procrastination, but I can see it as laying the groundwork for the perfection I see in my mind. I am bolstered by your words. I would love to see INTP advice for decision-making and follow through.
" I am bolstered by your words" - I can't tell you how good that feels to hear, keep lining things up, then when you're ready, your natural inclinations will do the work for you ~ Nathan
“Be as charming as possible”
Some people have broken it down into more concrete steps of how to be listened to. I don’t remember it all, but it can help to begin an email on a positive note. Begin an argument with an outlining of where you think the person-to-be-convinced is absolutely correct.
I will continue to watch from the shadows. But you did get me to comment for the algorithm.... Well played, well played
Please do one for infps
P.S I just love the way you ask for subs. Never change nathan☺
Will do! And thank you! ~ Nathan
When I was a kid and a teen you could say I lived inside my mind. My mind was my favourite place in the world. Then I went through a short period of depression during my early twenties, and now I'm okay, but after that I don't feel as comfortable in my mind. Because when I started thinking, I remembered episodes of my depression and I got sad and angry every single time. It doesn't happen to me now, I can think for hours without getting sad, but I got used to trying to shut my thoughts doing mundane stuff like listening to music or doing jigsaws. I also walk a lot. The thing is I never get lost in my thoughts as I used to, but I'm not sure if it's a good or a bad thing.
Also three months ago I ended a relationship that lasted 8 years (basically all my adult life). I broke up with my ex because I felt I don't love him anymore, but now I realise how lonely I really am, because he was the only person I could trust with my thoughts and the only one who really knew me. Since we broke up I feel I'm alone with my thoughts again, and I'm scared to the point I consider getting back together with him.
And now I'm so lonely I use old youtube videos as my personal diary 😅
Without making yourself physically sick .. literally laughed out loud here...a few years back I had a conversation with someone on this topic.. he suggested that I could learn to be more charming .. I replied when I try I feel sick to my stomach .. literally ...
Wait a god damn minute : he is HOW old?! 25?
That is... i assumed he was in his early 30. Not, bc he looks old but because he knows so much and seems to be so experienced.
That, and the marriage thing if i didn't misunderstood everything.
I'm 19 and now I feel like i have to hurry up 😂.
Perspective is so funny, when I see someone who's 19 years old it makes me feel like 1000years old ~ Nathan
I am 40 and this guy is more wise and articulate than I am.
Right? I was thinking of him as an older INTP brother figure, now I hear that he's a fellow 25-year-old INTP 😂
Very well said “ sometimes things don’t need to be clever, they just need to be DONE” 😂💔
I'm an INTP and also happen to be good looking and a former D1 baseball player. I say this for context, not arrogance. It was always a struggle to be myself bc people expected me to be a certain way. My brain during pitching was thinking about such random and distracting things that I literally had to turn it off in order to be successful. The thoughts we have are so deep that it can affect anything happening, even if just a physical sport.
An INTP in sport is fascinating too, in what ways do you think your type/way of analysing the game gave you a competitive advantage/what issues did it cause? ~ Nathan
@@lovewho it's caused A LOT of issues. Whereas most players don't really think and enjoy the game, my brain was always overanalyzing everything and trying to predict outcomes based on what I did. So, instead of just throwing the ball, or think about getting the perfect leg kick, where I was looking, people in the stands, etc. I finally overcame this and became a top 10 national pitcher but I went through A LOT of dark moments because of my INTP thinking. It's a magical curse..that's what I tell my wife after I tell her the 5th random fact of the day lol
@@lovewho *I'd. Not or
@@lovewho and in order to be prepared for the game, I'd basically have to isolate myself from social fun bc it would drain my mind too much. Was pretty tough with a team full of extroverts..
When did you have more fun and achieved more success - when you were playing the game while thinking and over analyzing or when you were playing for fun?
Lol INTPs always watch from the shadows, we will subscribe when we feel you said something useful :) and you said many useful and related things. So you have my vote
Great video and certainly good advice as far as I undestood it fully. My non native english is limiting my understanding of things like "take action'' though. Does that mean: 'Think it over once again to further improve the idea'?
"Try to be charming and ease people in without making myself sick"
Got it. I'll need to spend my whole life working on this project.
That’s an extremely healthy realization.
Instead of “Ill never be as charming as that guy,” make it “I am probably predisposed to underestimate the practicality of being charming, and the more charming I can become the better”
"Taking actions"
*quit the video*
Well, we can say that I take actions now 🤔
Well played ~ Nathan
Some things do not need to be clever, they just need to be done.
Literally subscribed yesterday. I thought I was watching one of the INTP videos I overlooked on this channel... apperantly not
Great timing! Hope you enjoyed this video ~ Nathan
@@lovewho i always do xD
8:29 Wrong. I subscribed way longer, in hope for some INTP stuff; because your channel is high quality.
So here we are.
Watching this and taking notes, since we’re basically the same except for different levels of cuddliness. - ENTP
Good point! ENTPs could benefit from this too but they'll get they're own video at some point as well ~ Nathan
ENTPs have more body fat?
I'm 25 and I clearly know everything about life.
INTPs: *doubt everything in the video*