How INTPs Defy Their Stereotype
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INTP here. People only notice I'm an introvert when I'm with a group of extroverts. Otherwise, they think I'm "outgoing" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Same! I've always been really extroverted with my friends or other introverts.
Exactly the same!
Me too. I (INTP) often go out of my to talk to the people in the corner who are very awkward in a group setting of who are forgotten I'm the noise. I try to get the introverts who wouldn't talk to each other otherwise to come out of their shells and have conversations with small groups of people. This makes me seem outgoing to them and I can be very socially adept even in a group of extroverts who I don't know very well. Of course, after an hour of so of this I get very tired and drained.
@@thecoleopterist I do the same thing ! 😅
Yh, Im the most extroverted out of my friend group, but I go off by myself or just sit in silence sometimes
“INTPs want the people in their lives to do well.” Yes.
But people rarely listen in order to do well...even if you are right.
Yes. So that they won't come to bother us later on. With the exception of family and close friends, of course.
This is so true. Especially for the ones we love so deeply...
At least in part because it’s validation of our own competence in giving advice.
Yes
INTP's are always evolving so we're not the stereotype for for long.
stereotype (stereo=solid)
I had a wonderful boss and mentor who was a keen observer of human behavior. He and I were very tight. He was always amazed about how totally varied I was with different people. I used to tell him: I am what is required. I believe myself to be incredibly adaptive as an INTP ... when I want to be and when it serves my purposes.
I have used that same line, Pearls & Ammo... after having people who know me well take the test, they typically want to know what I am. Rarely do they believe I am this type, after reading the list of stereotypes. The artifacts remain, but I have a hard time accepting blind spots and weaknesses.
@@aschmuas I’ve peeled my psychological onion down to the atomic level at this point so while I’m fully cognizant of my blind spots and weaknesses, I still surprise myself at my inability to stop myself from obviously poor choices when the signs to do otherwise in my head are going off like that bridge scene in “Bruce Almighty” ... I’ve accepted I am human and therefore fallible. 😌
Right now we are nerds 💀
“The next time they are spewing knowledge bombs in their direction, just let them rant”. ON MY GOD I AM UNDERSTOOD
@@JohnnyDeppSmashedOnCocaine whatever (bc his second function is Se, and not Ne, the only thing that will change is that he'll probably rant fact, and not necessarily ideas/concepts)
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@@JohnnyDeppSmashedOnCocaine I know ^_^ I love Clint to death. He has done an interviewer where he discussed his MBTI. I just use my favourite fictional character as my profile.
@@richeeg3271 Not at all. The Man with No Name is a very quiet individual. He keeps to himself. He won’t rant. He displays his knowledge through his actions.
Ok
I want to add this -I think INTP's are chameleons, they can copy any other type for a certain period of time and then can get exhausted after doing it.
We can be high energy but the limitations of being socially oblivious still apply and we come out as more weird and kind of annoying , when we take care of someone to the point of being annoying and we realise that quite late after a lot of self analysis and it's kinda sad because it's too late and first impression is already ruined.
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Thank You 🙏💕 Your explanation is top Notch. WELL 👍 DONE!!!
Yes! Exactly! I often feel like a chameleon because I can adjust my energy and speech to the group I am in, but man is it draining.
yes
Yes omg
Pure Osmosis. I am willing to go wherever the conversation is going, just to see where it lands. Sometimes I will start the conversation just so people will leave me alone. Because I spend so much time learning and absorbing information online and elsewhere I can usually relate, but if I can't, I stay quiet or just say I have never been there or done that etc.
Yes! This is the perfect explanation!
INTPs by definition, can not have a stereotype.
the result of constantly reviewing your outlook on life when new information is presented is extremely dependent on the environment you're in. and therefore can not be easily categorized. unless the INTP in question is young and is not yet presented with enough information to deviate from the initial "personality".
Good take
Thats true
Completely true. (Especially since my perspective on reality and existence changes so much with more information.)
Accurate! Bravo 👏🏽
Does anyone remember the initial personality?
I’m definitely a bubbly, social INTP, but that’s only around the right people in the right places. I display a sort of manufactured social front when speaking to people I don’t know, but my loved ones will definitely see my genuine upbeat nature. My curiosity usually drives my desire to speak with people, so it can be quite invigorating.
Yes, it's like roleplay. When at work I have what I call my 'gracious host' persona, polite and conscientious, and people are happy to interact with me, but when I'm shopping or something, I pay no attention to the people around me, just the mechandise. No eye contact or anything. I call the first mode my 'sociable mode'. Not that it's insincere or anything, but it requires a conscious shift in my mind to divert my focus to the outside world when my default mode is to be an observer.
Yes when I'm with more than 3 friends I cannot open my mouth for some reason but with 2 or 1 , i talk the most.
personally I really don't like interacting with "boring" people, not only because I suck at it, but also because it annoy me, so around most people that I don't have a hierarchy (or group work) with, I'm really cold and rarely respond with phrases (barely yes/no/*[ insert random excuse to avoid them ]*, sorry), but if I just see someone doing something that peek my interest (even a total stranger), I always quietly observe them for several minute, and eventually, if I see that I don't annoy them, I start a in dept conversation with them, even sometime when they are in a group. it's kind of a weird habit, and I'm surprised that nobody ever told me anything negative about it, I guess I really am sparkly when I'm curious (or with friends).
Perhaps you are INTP-A
I totally relate yo
INTP's always defend the truth
Even if it’s unpopular...
Not always. But it's definitely instinct for us.
Yeah
@@valej9387 well if you need to tell a lie just for good reasons thats something different
@Arrekesu I admit to temporarily withholding blunt truth because someone's so deep in their feelings they're not going to listen to what I have to say anyway... I'll often try to eventually find a better moment for truth, and I didn't used to withhold it like I sometimes do now, but I've figured out that blunt honesty won't always be heard as such. There is benefit in choosing better timing. And there are days and cases where reasoning with an unreasonable person is just not worth the emotional energy, and so they can just be left to their circular reasoning or emotion-based reality.
I'm an INTP and I can be charming and sociable but I have to work at it. I have to get my mind in the framework. Once I put my mind to it I too can engage in frivolous silly conversations and be convincingly fake. The thing is though at the end of the interaction I don't feel proud or energized. Instead I feel drained and it takes a very long time to recover and try it again. I can do it but I cannot live like this on a day to day basis. I would literally go mad. I need my solitude like I need air
Same
exactly
Exactly. Yes.
Same
Also, I can enjoy house parties with large groups of acquaintances, resembling extroverts as i switch between people and have series of chats and conversations, crack situational jokes and puns, troll around. But after 5 hours of such an energy expenditure i require next 1 day off in my home alone. And its a perfect balance, taking great pleasure out of both but in such composition.
I think we look for patterns and understanding how things work, and we're problem solvers. We might not be masters of something at first, but we will figure it out eventually if we need to. I'm an introvert but I learned to master being a good hostess and mingling at parties when I had to. I also feel that INTPs don't get enough credit for genuinely caring about other people and wanting to help them improve their lives. Not necessarily by cleaning their basement for them but rather coming up with ways to solve major problems in their lives, things that actually make a big, positive difference. I am happy to baby sit and help someone with their home work so they can get a degree and a better job which will improve their whole family's quality of life long term. I'm not at all happy baby sitting so that someone can go out and get drunk. I'd rather do a year of baby sitting than one night - if it improves their lives.
100%
I often hear that "You looking for problems even if they are not there" - yet in most cases there are only they not see. But after a while I learned not to notice (or at lest not to tell) becouse people don't like the problems making visible. Realizing a problem needs change and people generally don't like changes at all.
I personally feel that a good way to help someone you care about is to become the wall that they can bounce ideas off, if not a dispenser for possible solutions, because I believe offering to help while still allowing the other person agency over their lives/decisions is a solid way to show trust and respect to that person.
Unfortunately my close family is very emotional so they just tell me I "stress them out" whenever I do this. I forget that sometimes they just want a soft shoulder to sob on, not a brainstorming session on possible solutions. Sadly, my shoulders are pretty boney...
Actually we kind of search patterns, but this isn't the exact term I would use. Rather we search for analogies and connections between things (that's the way Ne and Si work). Usually Se and Ni users look after patterns in the proper sense. They generalise what they are seeing so as to create a mental pattern. This is used by Ni users(1st and 2nd) to "forecast" the future.
Apparently I'm an INTP and the part where you spoke about martial arts and music really got me.
I do martial arts and I am a drummer too :D
Ikr! I feel attacked
I think I am too because everything he’s saying really describes me
@@gonzalosalles6279 I like to wrestle and play guitar lol
I play sports leisurely, but Im grade 6 piano and grade 4 flute and violin at 13.
And I would definitely say Im an intp:)
I’m an INTP and I feel really bad at socializing but I’ve been told by people that I’m fun to talk to. But I feel like that’s because I over analyze whoever I’m talking to and try to mold myself and act in a way that they would find fun/interesting. This makes being social incredibly draining because I’m constantly thinking about what the other person would think is an appropriate response, rather than just talking and being myself. Sometimes this doesn’t apply when I’m very close to someone and I can actually just be myself but that’s how it is a lot of the time. And because of wanting to come across to others the best I can, I also find myself acting incredibly “safe” or “generic”, not saying anything too wild for fear of annoying or scaring people off. So then it becomes hard for people to actually get close to me, since I rarely can just let myself act naturally. I’ll reread texts imagining what the other person will think of it before sending, trying to estimate their reaction so I can word it in a way to get the best outcome. So yeah, I think I definitely over analyze social situations. Not sure if it’s all an INTP thing or just a me thing lol
INTP here. The thing is, I find it easy to talk to a complete strangers on the street because I know that I will probally never cross that person again. But it can be tricky to talk to an aquaintance because I know I may come off as blunt or weird/silly if I don't watch what I say or write (overanalise or plan/reread what is said/written). It seems it is only possible to truly know what I am thinking if you are a complete stranger or a very close friend, every one else gets a ''curated'' version.
So yeah, I think it is a INTP thing and most definetely as to do with our Ti hero and Fe inferior. We know (Ti) that what we are going to say will hurt the other person (Fe), but we are not socially adept (Fe) enough to tell it naturally without making sure that it makes sense (Ti) beforehand.
P.S. this took time to write because of the rereading, LOL
@@philippetremblayroy6411 Yeah! Like you say, sometimes it’s not hard to talk to people if I REALLY don’t care about what they think about me, like I know I’ll never be close to them so it doesn’t matter. Otherwise though, most people get a curated version.
My original comment took forever to write because of rereading too 😂
Unbelievable how accurately you described it, just on that subject I must say that sometimes when I feel like I've messed up in a text which it is really hard for me to not mess up because of that actively fighting the urge of sending what I think, I just might read the history of what we texted to each other 4-5 times just to know what words exactly been used and determine that if I should be concerned or not and if my Ti says it seems fine but my Fe always tells me, oh they hate you now what have you done you should have not talked at all and even though you know you shouldn't say that but you did and it's all your fault.
Yes, at the same time I'm always sticking to my principles and will try to be myself... but I want to be the side of myself that they like.
i am an intp and i seriously do this so much
As an INTP, I find that I am often good at guessing other people’s beliefs and values in a short amount of time.
Same
That's because Ne. It can be bad sometimes though. People often get boring very quickly because of this.
@@milaspasic7734 agree.
But because I don't have naturally good social skills.
The only way I can interact normally in sociaty is thinking and analyzing. In my opinion iy worth it.
Yeah, like I can kinda read people pretty well but I’m not good at handling their emotions
Who do you think you are, an ESTP?
I defy my INTP personality type by being extremely conscious of how other people feel. I don’t feel emotions very strongly myself, and comforting people is extremely unnatural, but I’m very socially and emotionally aware.
Also the martial arts thing is true, I’ve been involved in martial arts since I was 9 and it’s my favorite thing in the world.
IAM you
Wow, I could've written those first two sentences. I said something similar to a friend last night in a conversation about my emotions.
Me too. I rarely experience emotions strongly because I'm always aware of them so I really enjoy trying to help others with their emotions. However, I sometimes get carried away while helping others because I notice I deviate from "helping" to "analyzing" and I end up just studying the person and voicing my thoughts out loud. And at that point I usually just shut up because I realize I have spoken too much.
@@laralepo1071 i can relate to that, I analyze out loud all of the time (especially when I’m playing board games lol). I also used to like helping people with their problems, but then I would get really annoyed because after I’ve given them sufficient advice, it becomes clear that they don’t actually want to solve the problem, they just want to complain about it. Now I don’t help people with their problems unless they come to me specifically for help :/
@@safarlama7743 oh thats true some people really don't wanna solve their problems or feel better at all, just complain. It's annoying to realize that the solutions i tried to give were just a waste of time for me and them after all.
I recently got into an argument that ended with me basically turning to my demon function and yelling at everyone how I felt wronged and it was hurtful and blah blah, so then I stormed out before I could cry in front of them. In my car I was driving to work trying to gain control again, and I couldnt. I just kept feeling lol. I was trying to tell myself over and over that I was being stupid and there was no reason to cry anymore. I kept replaying the argument in my head and wishing I hadn’t let my feelings get the better of me, because in the end I didn’t say the things I should/could have said to get my points across much better. I started to feel guilty for yelling. And then I was angry that I got put into a situation like that, and then suddenly I was in apathy mode and didn’t care at all anymore.
The point I’m trying to make is that while INTPs aren’t ruled by their emotions in daily life, we obviously have them. When we do end up feeling them and taking them into account, it usually becomes volatile for themselves and others because of how intense those emotions usually are.
Hope that all made sense haha
I had a big outburst in Sept 2009 at work. I took a year off work as a result. It seems that we can bury emotional current but it is never dead ;)
Ya that’s a relatable intp moment. I don’t flip my sh*t often but when I do, I really flip my sh*t.
I've been in those situations a lot. I want to learn to contain my cool, but I often can get too violent or too emotional and it embarrasses me to have my family, the people who I love the most out of anyone, see that side of me.
@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 yes exactly. I’m notorious for storming out to avoid further embarrassment.
Ok, I must be an intp because everything I’ve heard from the video and comment section and especially what you said above is perfect description of me
I am an INTP
I burst into tears at some movies and still scorn some other movies with tragic themes.
I was popular in high school by simply being friends with some other popular people and No, I did not do their homework.
I see myself as caring and nurturing.
But hate when I am forced into the role.
And I go through my hygiene rituals everyday but it could be at 3:00 AM in the morning. My room is well kept, a little cluttered though, thanks to tidyness being ingrained into my head everyday from childhood by dad.
I’ve always been told that I’m not an INTP when I say I was popular in high school. I was just friends with the class president, the Student body president, the popular pretty girls and I happened to be a triathlete and team captain for 8 seasons. I keep myself clean, but that’s because i used to wet the bed every day until 9th grade so I showered every morning, and I always had to do laundry so I kept my room clean. I was still a quiet guy. In fact I was told I’m intimidating because of how distant I always looked but my stature was athletic. I’m 21 now and I’ve never had a girlfriend. Maybe that’s my major INTP identifying quality? Too shy to approach? 🤔
I DO help when I want. Gladly, honestly. But NEVER expect that from me.
Same i like to help when i feel like doing from inside. I don't like when I'm forced
And same with the movies
Sometimes i just feel too bad for the side characters or sometimes I'm like that's boring bullshit tragic ending
I let my study area/room get dirty and then i like to do a thorough cleaning, and the cycle continues
#relateable
Cried over one movie. Laugh at most. I was anti-popular in high school. I'm not naturally nurturing or caring. Never cared about my hygiene. I take a shower once every few weeks if that. Rarely brush my teeth. My room looks like a hoarders house, despite being raised in an OCD household.
One of the biggest challenges in maturing and growing for INTPs is learning to value other types of intelligence other than just logic. Almost overcoming this gifted kid mentality (if you aren't naturally good at something, then don't even try) and learning the skills of emotional intelligence or kinesthetic intelligence. As an INTP myself, I've had to learn social cues and work hard to better develop my emotional intelligence and understanding of people through noticing patterns in behavior (researching psychology and talking in-depth with friends with higher EQs). An INTP can pick up on more sensory and emotional details and accurately predict reactions. The issue is just apathy and paying attention (for example, zoning out in most mundane conversations but when a friend is in emotional distress, being able to comfort them by seeing it as a problem that can be solved and applying knowledge about that friend and their patterns of behavior as well as people in general).
Easy solution! Just don't interact with anybody. I don't care about you or your emotions.
Wait... There are other types of intelligence other than logic !???
About the second one, I was yesterday talking with a friend about all things racism and it wasn’t especially contentious but we did clash. Anyway I got home that night and found myself writing a mini essay on race relations and definitions of race etc. I guess cos I wanted to explore the idea the further and see her pov. I sent it to her and she was like “you spent your whole evening on this cos of one conversation 😂” to which I replied: “yes, yes I did”
Same i do it too
Once i literally wrote a two page essay on "why i like to read youtube/any platform comments"
And my friend is an infp and we often have long-ass discussions, so i sent it to her
And she gave me her critics on that😂
Rita Arya omg I have a compulsive need to read YT comments as well 😂 that’ll be my next essay title thanks
I find that in past it was very hard to survive socially. I had a desire to fit in but couldn't. I was often angry and hurt. As an INTP, I had a talent for observation and an ability to figure out how and why things worked. I dissected every interaction I had with others and compared it with what I observed. I slowly learned how to interact. It's as though INTP's are equipped with a manual transmission and all others are equipped with an automatic. I recently discovered the personalities and am relived to have in a sense found my self and know why I am the way I am. It's quite amazing. .
I am an INTP and a jujitsu competitor. You scared the shit out of me.
Why r u scared? Just give him a chop-suey!
@@bearclaw5115 that's irrational, they get nothing out of it?
You do realise that it’s likely that any type wathcing this channel can also do jiujitsu, right? This is a random occurrence
@@nl4941 I would hazard a guess that they're scared because he talked about their approach to jujitsu for example; using methodology and systems to master their craft rather then 'feeling it out', or using sensory processes (of which I have heard but never used and therefore cannot describe them for you here, though many a 'jock' has described to me.)
An INTP might do a lot of research, develop a strategy and then go execute it the next day.
Another personality might watch someone else preform it and then copy that without much planning.
Exclusions may apply. I'm writing an opinion, and, as said before a guess, as I don't know this person or this craft (jujitsu), nor have I don't much research on MBTI types outside of my own, because I keep knowledge on a need to know/want to know/does it affect what I'm doing basis. As a rule. If I don't follow that then I will never stop learning things I cannot use.
TL;DR: This person is probably shocked that the video called out their system for mastering physical achievements as opposed to suggesting that the entirety of Jiujitsu is exclusive to INTP types.
@@nl4941 Yes I do know that this is random and anecdotal.
I'm an INTP. Those were some interesting observations on "Physical Mastery". Here are relevant personal anecdotes:
(1) I took dance classes for years (ballet, modern dance, etc.), but always at the beginner level because I could not seem to get past a reductionistic approach. My technique became quite good, but when it came to putting patterns together I became overwhelmed because to me it wasn't "chasse, chasse, pas de bourree" - instead it was a complicated sequence of individual simultaneous joint movements, all of which I had to control in conscious awareness.
(2) Similarly, as a voice student (I have a degree in vocal performance), whenever I did something right, my automatic reaction was to analyze it immediately - and thus I would get in my own way and stop doing it right. My teacher would laugh and tell me I was "doing it again."
(3) In eurhythmics, when we were asked to clap and notate rhythms, I was surprised by how many of my fellow students could clap them but not write them, since for me it was the opposite: I could not clap them properly until I had already notated them in my head.
Quite similar experience with boxing for me. I am capable of doing incredibly complex combinations and foot movements, but if I start sparring with someone new, I feel like a bumbling goof.
I have very similar experiences with playing the saxophone, the repetition doesn't help with mistakes because you aren't given time to understand and solve the problem which results in just repetition of the mistake and a frustrated teacher.
I’m also an intp and I’ve been a dancer for basically my whole life. My experience overall seems similar to yours where in styles such as ballet I’ve been pretty natural at developing good technique and I quite enjoy that aspect because technique can essentially be viewed as a puzzle to solve logically. However in the case of learning combinations quickly and accurately and more importantly of being able to execute them without any mistakes (especially before the combo’s become muscle memory), it comes less naturally as it requires you to control your focus and be present for an extended period of time. But as with any skill practice makes perfect and just from spending lots of time learning lots of combinations it gets easier and more natural. I feel like it’s very similar to learning a new song or a set of lines, etc.
I'm an INTP nurse. You would think that would be counterintuitive, but it's not. I am caring and I do want to help society as a whole by doing my part one person at a time. I may not be the shoulder to cry on, but I'm here to get to the bottom of the problem and solve it. By being able to see a problem and critically think through what the problem is and fix it, makes me and my patients happy. Being genuine and honest, with a bit of quirkiness and wit, can make any patient love how I take care of them. Although I don't show my emotions much, it doesn't mean I don't care about other people's emotions.
There's still some variation of traits within the spectrum of INTP. You might be closer to 50% for some traits than others that are compatible with a nursing job.
Using Ti to improve Fe is exactly what I started doing, since I took the test
Intps are often stereotyped and lazy procrastinators, A LOT. I never really related to this at all. I usually worry too much about what I should be doing before I can even enjoy anything else, so I am usually very productive and punctual with time and being on time too.
Edit: I definitely can be forgetful sometimes and can get distracted easily. I just make habits like writing things down and setting alarms, so I can be on time. I hate cutting things close because I hate the anxiety of it. I just don't ignore that anxiety early on or get distracted from it I guess.
Te is usually seen as logic applied to obtain goals or results. I don't see it that way, at least not completely. It's the same issue I have with INTPs being completely emotionally detached: to what extent do those apply? Do INTPs have no goals? Than the system is wrong because everyone has goals. Is Ti deductive logic and Te inductive? What about when Te users use deduction and vice versa? This is why I simply stick with this definition:
Ti is about assimilating and processing external information to fit into a tight, subjective framework of understanding. It comes to subjective conclusions via objective means by weighing options and formulating the situation by counseling it's frameworks, and if confronted with new information, stresses the importance of either disproving it or assimilating it into their frameworks.
Te is about objectively observing logical principles in the external. It generally focuses on sources and results through creating and maintaining broad, efficient systems that can stand the test of time. Unlike Ti, which converts objective info into subjective info, Te creates and observes objective systems in the external, often involving multiple people and institutions. Because of this, Te is less theoretical than Ti, but far more capable in solving and effecting what's observably present.
Sir you're not an INTP.
@@akashmuruganandam1462 Not all INTPs are lazy. They lead with a judging function, so of course they'll learn to evaluate the best course of action. This is often the minority, but it isn't impossible, especially given enneagram.
@@akashmuruganandam1462 Could I just be a healthy intp when it comes to not procrastinating and being not being lazy? I mean I usually do something productive so I can be lazy guilt free lol.
@@SantanaBanana47 No such thing as productivity.
I can be socially smooth when I throw all my brain power at it, but when it is not the only focus, I quite simply miss the ques that go along with it.
intp here, and I was always quite good in dance class and became proficient in non-team sports like tennis, including doubles. My trouble comes in with too much sensing input, too many things to adapt to, so team sports and things like off-piste skiing are no-gos for me. In the same way, I'm a competent actor in amateur productions but improv is out of the question.
The only things I've never procrastinated on are my curiosity. Just today, I googled "how papers are made" because it suddenly pops in my head and completely abandoning my assignment. It was cool.
As an INTP, my approach to teaching seems to be a bit atypical. I taught an elective course once on the philosophy of science to a class of middle schoolers at a school for gifted students, and while I had a curriculum prepared, I loved to ask questions of the students, try to figure out where they were coming from, and go off on tangents which would incorporate their insights (mistaken or not) into the web of associations which I was trying to convey. I was far more focused on concepts and associations then on presenting facts.
I've also done some tutoring at a literacy center, which was an entirely different experience, but I always enjoyed the one-on-one opportunities to figure out just where/why a student was struggling, and trying to find ways to encourage them about their capabilities and bring lightbulb insights to them which would help them past their blockages.
So, I have always taken a very analytical approach, combined with a real but not very emotionally demonstrative appreciation of the students themselves. As far as I could tell, my approach was appreciated.
This does very much fit with the approach I took I. E. when learning in a Mathematician into my Informatics Company.
That said, it does work much better when I get to know them better, with persons I barely know it'll be less effective in the start than alternative approaches.
I think what people especially like about this approach is that it - at least in my interpretation - tends to be very non-judgemental. When I look at other people explaining and they missed a gap in the knowledge, the teacher either gets judgemental themself or the other person feels stupid. We just probe the knowledge with questions, that usually are not direct, and adjust accordingly, avoiding that situation altogether.
@@9SMTM6, I think that's a good point about it being non-judgemental. It is, I believe, a Ti strength to try to understand why someone doesn't understand something - because there has to be a reason, right? So much teaching is done without understanding (or at least without thinking about) underlying principles and connections, by people who have forgotten (or never knew) what it was like to not know the material they are teaching. But when you start analyzing the mistakes or problems someone is having with a subject, and are able to tie that to the principles involved and thus point out what element the person is missing, they realize that they are quite capable of understanding - they just never had anyone explain it to them before in a way that made the lightbulb go on. (Of course, sometimes it takes several tries to hit on what way works for a particular person.)
For someone who has dropped out of school and is already struggling with what it feels like to be an adult trying to learn things which society has told them they were supposed to understand as adolescents, this can be quite an affirming revelation. The situation is reframed from "This will always be hard for me because I am just not smart enough" to "Someone just needs to teach this to me the 'right' way."
@@brentjohnson7044 Very true. Math is my strength and yet there were things that I did not get at all for years until I had a different person explain it to me. Good luck to you on your learning journey!
This is a good description of my approach as a teacher. I always have a well-prepared class (Ti), but what I really like is the deviations and insights (Ne) that students bring during the lecture. For me, the most productive, interesting and stimulating part happens in the hallways after class, when students spontaneously approach me with questions and personal reflections (Fe)
In fact I consider that the function of the class is simply to provide the context and starting point for these one-on-one conversations. For me there is no class, only individuals, each with their own universe, thoughts and problems. Theory interests me only to the extent that it connects with specific, personal, human problems. Everything else is boring, pedantic and irrelevant
INTP here. Something that I know many INTPs can relate to that I'm currently going through is that we know we have so much potential and we know that when there is something we can do, we like to think that we would master it if we put enough work to it... but we are lazy at a young age and need a big (not little) push until we are not stuck in our own heads. That is why we learn best what we are forced to sometimes. Ex for "forced": if we choose wrong, it would put us in places we are afraid of being in.
I'd rather die then come out of my head.
What I did indeed find out, no two of the same type are identical. Life has everything to offer, but what to pick is up to you.
Sports like Archery, martial arts like Aikido attract (I)NTx types, because of different reasons than other types. Any hobby can be enjoyed for the "mind`s" sake, and even "extreme sports" can be made use of, for example to "clear your head" because even NT type can get tired of thinking ^^
Great series, Iam looking forward to the other types!
Skateboarding was an unexpected one I was into. The trickery is somewhat intellectual and logical, yet creative and free.
Wow, this all describes me to a T(i) 😮😂
lol, I see what you did there ;)
So glad you covered how we can and are charming in social situations. I feel like we are represented as cold hearted, aloof, & robotic because of our logical nature and our need for being honest.. but that’s not the case!! (At least not for me all the time) I’m hella friendly and I know how to charm people when I NEED to and when I feel like it. That’s a skill I learned how to switch on and off. That may sound manipulative and it can be, but if I were always “on” it would drain the HELL out of me. And even when I am “on”, my charm is coming from a genuine place.. if that makes sense. Great video.
Hah, I have what I call "sociable mode". And yes, it's fun but exhausting.
I feel what truly challenges an INTP is their maturity and the very things that get in their way. For example:
Pros: Intellectuals, Analytical, Calm/Focus, Problem Solvers
Cons: Emotionless, Careless, Self-Doubt, Introverted, Overthinking
We tend to choose our Intellect over our Emotions, as we see emotions to be more irrelevant, if anything. Knowledge is Power, therefore we believe knowledge conquers all. And yet here I am trying to figure out why I’m single and it’s cause we have “ Foot in Mouth “ Syndrome. Basically we always critique everyone and everything to the point we could hurt someone’s feelings or cause a problem. This goes hand in hand with our God Complex, which is another con about us. INTPs need to learn that even though Facts will always be Facts, that we need to be kind to people and be caring towards others. Then we overthink think things, which leads to self-doubts, we are intellectuals, there is no reason why we should second guess ourselves, unless we make a mistake or miscalculation, then we will never be wrong.
Basically when maturing, we need to take peoples feelings into consideration and stop second guessing ourselves. Only then can we learn to find balance within.
Great comment! ~ Nathan
As an INTP, I noticed that before I say anything in a conversation, I analyze before I find a suitable role (usually takes a few weeks or so) that fits into the word play. If there are moments of silence or awkwardness, I chirp up with some sort of response. The group doesn't suspect a thing. Figuring out what things are funny for different people also plays a big role.
This made me feel so much better 😭 I thought intps were lazy and too introverted. I rant a lot, interested in physical activities (dancing), sometimes energetic, and very supportive and like to give advice. I kept doubting whether i was an intp even though i kept getting it after every single test. Thanks for that :,)
If there is a phrase I would use to describe INTP way of thinking, it's "slow search for novelty." You guys are so fascinating! You flow through life while searching for the best pattern, being so scattered yet consistent that it creates this paradox. You appear forgetful, slow to grasp and bad at improvisation and then deny it with wit, open perspective and meticulous detailed planning that is almost out of reach for human mind to grasp. Never fails to amaze me with my INTP friend.
- Enfp unicorn 🦄
As a confirmed INTP I’m far from the stereotype, but when you put it this way it makes more sense. I like to spin poi and dance with fans and fire. It’s something about the geometry and science. I enjoy any flow arts. I’m a conceptual multi media artist who thrives on deep people and deep knowledge, but I find most interactions dull and meaningless. It’s made me feel alone most of my life. It’s only made worse by finding most people to be unreasonable and senseless. I’m finding peace in the knowledge that I am just uncommon- not weird like some have said.
Well, we do make up for 3-6% of the population, apparently.
So more like Ultra-rare rather than uncommon.
Good thing this channel seems to be gathering us all, like moths to the flames.
@@jjstarrprod we're forming our tribe.
I'm glad you made this video! There always seem to be jokes or comments about INTP's social awkwardness or inability to flirt in UA-cam videos and other articles about personality types. This stereotype always seemed one dimensional as "socially smooth and charming" applies to me.
You explain the situation well. When I was young I always seemed to say/do the wrong thing in social situations. I was bullied and didn't have many friends. I learned how I "supposed" to act in social situations and how different people would perceive me as I grew older. Now, at risk of sounding too self-assured, I am charming and socially adept. It can be hard to put my insights into practice, as stated in the video, but with practice it's become easier.
A note on this point is that while 90% of people find me charming and fun to be around, I bump into people who are uncomfortable or find my charm superficial. (I've had two ENFJs call me out on having a "wall" up in recent months). My social skills are a tool I've developed and I act differently around different people, depending on how that individual is likely to perceive me. I am not 'fake', but rather showing only part of myself. Some people sense that I am not sharing my whole self, but I cannot figure out who those people are until they say something to me or pull away. I find these people most jarring because I hate that they read me so well. Also, I can't "turn off" the charm until I am very comfortable with people because I hated being an outcast when I was young.
I literally gasped when he said intps like martial arts because that was actually so spot on it shocked me
This is SPOT ON! This video just answered all my questions about my type, because I was caught up in "this is the only way a true INTP can be, they are all bad at this and this and this and it can't be otherwise".
Thank you for this 🖤 Even if I'm INTP, I'm not socially retarded as many people like to say within MBTI community. I just go to great lenghts in avoiding social situations in the first place, but when I'm thrown in, I chameleon myself into sweet-and-bubbly-wannabe-ENFP for as long as needed, and then go back to "normal" when it's over. I feel so much relief now, very helpful video for me!🖤
When I realized my clumsy movements were making my life more difficult I learned belly dancing. Growing up I desperately wanted to learn martial arts though. I wasn't allowed.
I feel like after finding out I'm an INTP its like you continually affirm that I am an INTP, which is mind blowing, honestly.
Lately, because of quarantine, I've been thinking about different aspects of social life and trying to figure out how they work, and this video reassured me that its possible for a master social interactions the best way know how!
INTPs are capable of anything. We tend to be highly oriented toward system structure. Once you accept that everything has a system, the world opens up. Then it’s simply a matter of a thing holding our interest (often difficult) and/or that we care about said thing. That is the truly hard part: avoiding apathy.
I am/was an INTP when I was younger but recently when I did the MBTI test, I got the result for INFP. Now I'm not so sure whether I actually switched personality types (if that's even possible) or just simply became an INTP that defies the stereotype like your example in the video. The line about martial arts really struck a chord. I look at it as physical chess, extremely fun and a huge confidence booster.
Your personality archetype can’t change so i think you’re probably mistyped. I’d say, don’t trust those online tests because they are heavily based on stereotypical attitudes and not cognitive functions. And please look into other types as well, not only infps and intps. I’m an isfp who thought to be an infp for the longest time but turns out I’m not. And i also think there is a huge amount of mistyped people out there.
So, to help you figure yourself out, an intp will use objective logic to make decisions on anything. It’s not about being a logical person, in a sense of a person who loves debating and maths, but a person who, in order to do anything, will need a rational explanation (That’s the Ti). The intp always wants a reason. An infp, on the other hand, will do things because they know they like those things or because they highly value them, no matter how reasonable these things are (that’s the Fi).
@@myrtila Very possible. From what you're saying, I'd say I'm probably still Intp. For the record, you don't have to continue reading the rest of this comment.
However if you are willing, just for the sake of argument and a little thought experiment, let's take exercise for example as a decision. Let's say I've already assessed the merits of exercising, like the benefit towards health, fitness, stress-relief, dopamine and serotonin all that good stuff and hence assigned it a high value. I packed it away nicely with the labels saying exercise is enjoyable (dopamine, serotonin, stress-relief) and has high value (health and fitness). Logical analysis has already been done, no need for review until new contradicting information is discovered, so meanwhile it's packed nice and simply as "I like it" and "I value it". Now when I think of exercising as one of many decisions, I don't go through the unnecessary steps of rationalizing it, I do it because it's enjoyable and is one of the values that I believe in. All of that seems very Fi because of the previous groundwork laid by Ti.
Does it matter more where the behavior/thinking originated from or does it matter more how it is currently being performed and perpetuated? Does that make me more Intp or Infp? I'm aware that they do say that the personality archetype can't change but what I'm curious about is how they arrived at that conclusion. Take people with split personality disorder or dissociative identity disorder for example. Are they not possibly concurrently holding two different personality archetypes inside them simultaneously? Then take that hypothesis and realize perhaps (DID) isn't necessarily either you have it or you don't, that it could also be on a spectrum to support the other hypothesis that people may in fact be able to hold more than one personality archetype and switch between those personalities. That's just part of my truth-seeking urge as an Intp. Also now you got me writing in paragraphs haha damn it, sorry.
INTPs can be emotional. It's a part of being human. But how do you interact with it? Do you try to rationalize or bury it? Do you pay more attention to the emotions and harmony of the group/others or the emotions of yourself? Do you naturally weigh options and assimilate information through analysis of logic, or do you VALUE logic?
@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 Very good set of rhetheorical questions. Umm is there a point you're trying to make or a question you want to ask?
@@DravisC I'm asking how YOU interact with them so I can help deduce your type. Sorry if I didn't make that clear :/
My father is an INTP, he spend time alot within his head, don't like "heated argument" (like I do haha), but he has good social skills, able to deal with anybody he met, good public speaker and black belt holder (can't remember the martial arts).
I am an INTP with an affinity for art and music. I really connected to this cause people think INTPS are too detached and unfeeling to be into art, but I’m glad this video talked about it.
Soooo so true. Before I was with my INTP husband, I used to rant to him about my ex. He would aaaalways tell me what was going to happen next in the relationship and he was right 100% of the time, lmao. And I love his info rants. He has so much broad knowledge, it helps a lot. We often exchange info even if we somehow got it from a different perspective/field and when it matches up, it's cool. xP He's also much more social than I am, but he has a hard time making/keeping friends because he's just a blunt person, lol. But he's only like that because he wants to help people and offer advice. T_T People just take it the wrong way.
What are you? You missed the critical part of the story - especially if it's about romance
Great new series idea - can't wait to see you do one for each of the other types!
My parents died when I was 14 and I wasn’t really emotional about it, I just remember that I had to work really hard to find places to live until I found my own place. Before I knew about the MBTI, I thought I was an unemotional monster, but now I know I am just an INTP.
jami0070 I really did, thank you!! My life would have killed the average feeler. 😂 Merry Christmas!🎄
jami0070 EXACTLY! I solve my emotions with a flow chart. Why am I feeling this? Can I change it or the circumstances? Did I bring this on myself? Is it valid? Am I just being a jerk? AM I JUST OVERTHINKING IT? 😂🤷🏼♀️
@jami0070 Well, the truth is emotions are like the dash lights in your car telling you that something is wrong that you have to fix. When I was a younger brain, I used to put stickers over the lights so I didn’t have to see them glaring at me. Now, I recognize them as I would the safety lights at an intersection.
@jami0070 Noooooo!!! Don’t let this shitty world make you shitty. Be your own paradise, man! That’s our super power!
@jami0070 Let me be the ghost of your Christmas future! 😂🎁
I thought I was the only one doing this "weird" stuff man, this discription is way to accurate.
And yet, you still make grammatical errors ok.
@Justa Human He could've made an effort. It's not hard.
@@jimclayson ?
@@jimclayson Ok, the question mark was a joke but I originally put a semi colon and that's the reason it wasn't capitalised.
@@jimclayson Cheers!
Please make a similar vid for INTJs. I have typed myself as an INTJ after reading Jung and my emotive responses made me believe I couldn't be an intj. So a similar video about intjs would be very useful.
Just a profile photo of hachiman in oregairu make me feel that you are an INTJ ~a fellow INTJ and a weeb lmao
@@khalilmoallaqat8999 About to say the same thing lol, I'm INTP though. I believe it is related to 3 slot Fi.
@@MohawkPigeon i guess that all you need is a bit of culture (and yeah since to some degree both of us will speculate on shown evidence what is he like)
@@khalilmoallaqat8999 Honestly,I think the best way to figure what type someone maybe between an Intj and Intp is to simply look at their polar( Fe or se) and inferior function(se or Fe). The 2 functions drastically change how either may interact within a certain frame work as they serve as either's weaknesses or achiles heel. But otherwise I would suggest looking at either of the Te-Fi or Ti-Fe axes.
But in my opinion, him mentioning Carl Jung and his emotive responses towards it makes me think of Fi. So I there's my take.
@@spartanoreo5075 you're on the mark. Fi is the main driving force for me and its the main foundation that differentiates me from an intp
I ended up defying my stereotype accidentally, because I was so socially awkward and unwilling to talk to people during school that I somehow got directed into an apprenticeship as a Waiter and now I'm basically working as a Head Waiter with conference/restaurant management on the side. How tf I ended up in such a hyper-extrovert position, I've no idea, but it's helped me learn "people" very well. It's also been a mentally exhausting 10+ years that I'm trying to leave behind now, but it's been a very enlightening experience.
As an intp, i want to thank you nathan for really understanding and analysing intps. you put it into words really really good. You're also pretty logical and i like this.
I have been binging your INTP content. I'm benefitting greatly from it, so thank you for all of this information. I am new to learning about my personality type and this whole process of self-discovery has been jarring. I find myself wanting to dispute it or find something that's totally inaccurate and, thus far, have failed in both approaches. People like yourself who are providing quality explanations for certain aspects of my newfound personality type are making this process of information gathering and internalization smoother than it would otherwise be for me. Thanks for your videos.
This must be the best series that you made, atleast for me
These were spot-on, thanks Nathan!
And I love the thumbnail 😎
Yes, thank you for bringing up the physical side of things. I actually have pretty decent hand-eye coordination. However, what I've found (for myself at least) is that once I start thinking hard about something, go up in my head, or am at all tired, my environmental awareness just goes out the window
i just came across your channel today and finally, the INTP content I’ve been looking for lol
Finally a video, where they explain it right. Really good job!
Mindblowingly insightful video bud! When you started talking about martial arts i looked up from my drawing, and then you mentioned jiu jitsu and my jaw dropped and i thought 'you're going to mention art in a minute aren't you?' and you did. (As an artist who does jiu jitsu obviously)
Pretty analytical, we judge anything and everything, but we're too lazy to do anything about it most times, and if we do, it's usually online. There are some upbeat INTP's, but I guarantee that us lazy ones are the most dominant. Procrastination is something that all INTP's face, no matter if they're louzy, or energetic, or a mixture of both. We worry and worry and worry but don't do anything about it, and then we do it hours before the deadline. We may be pretty smart, but we're also really stupid.
The intrusive logical response stuff is literally so relatable. Sometimes I'm just out of energy in a social gathering and start giving into the thoughts and they just assume I'm in a bad mood lol. Actually when i was young i literally used to have two accounts, one where I'm a social butterfly and one where I'm direct, honest and logical as i would like to be. I thought the social butterfly personality would obviously be perceived better, but i didn't think I'd be called emo, rude, toxic, depressed and receive Death Threats™ i did expect the attempt to doxx me though, unsuccessful might i add. Considering i used a expensive VPN learned from a young age that you PEOPLE APPARENTLY DON'T LIKE THAT, cool cool, good to know.
Indeed, what you mentioned about "coming across like you're in a bad mood" is an issue when your social battery is reaching empty. To other people it can seem really abrupt which is awkward ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Yeah especially if you were acting all peppy and having fun minutes before. It sucks but you just need to learn how to manage it.
INTP here. I worked in Human Resources and methodically learned everything I needed to be successful as an empathetic and intuitive advisor. Although not natural, it became part of me and I continued to study the psychology and human responses to circumstances so that I could predict people’s future responses to upcoming events that would affect them. My career, though typically not normal for an INTP, was so fascinating and fulfilling, and there was no end to the research to be done…yay! I did, however, struggle with getting things done, because of my tendency to over-research, over analyze and my need for (all) the information before creating a program or policy. This I recognize acutely now that I am retired. 😂
Yes to the unsuccessful interaction. I will replay many options trying to re-engineer to situation. Even years later. I store mistakes and examine them like a flawed carving
Definitely the physical mastery part, I'm a wrestler and the biggest thing i love about is learning more technique.
Man what a breath of fresh air. I've watched 2 of your videos about INTPs and you're spot on.
As an INTP whos been in sales for over 10 years, most human interaction has become a complex algorithm, that with the right amount of finesse, can lead to almost any desired outcome. I wouldn't say I've ever been socially awkward, just unrefined. I've read a few books on critical thinking, and also the classics like, "How to win friends and influence people" and " The 38 laws of power".
can't wait for the ISFP video 😍 thanx for your hard work 💥🌌
Your point on INTPs being into and intellectualizing physical stuff is valid. I used to be really into basketball and I was most adept at shooting, because I sought to perfect my jump shot through pure Ti-Si systemization; experimenting with multiple Ne scenarios in which my jump shot could apply, and using Ti and Si to meticulously critique and examine these angles for a perfectly consistent jump shot.
In my professional life, I appear to be ENTJ. My best friend is an ENTJ and she's following my professional course very closely. The major difference between us is I am genuinely discomforted by having to interact with many different types of personalities or having to put myself out to do so, as I find most people to be tedious. I do it, because I ascertained early in my career that this was an expected characteristic if I was going to attain the level of financial success required to live a secure life, but it is EXHAUSTING. Periodically, I have to take months or years off simply to recover my mental and physical equilibrium. The older I've grown, the more condensed those periods of extroverted professional living have been. Initially, 7 years, with a break of 4 years, then 3, then 1 year and another 1 year. Between each stretch, the break periods have grown wider as the recovery has been more protracted and the damage to my overall wellbeing more obvious to me and those who care about me.
I'm a trained singer, though I no longer do it professionally (I did during one of my career breaks). While I grew up in a musical family, i used to struggle with singing until I paid a vocal coach to teach me the specifics. Once I grasped how the process worked, I could get out of my head and do it effortlessly and well enough to get work doing it, but it wasn't intellectually stimulating enough for me, so I now only do it for my own pleasure.
As for me, as INTP, introversion means staying quiet and completely independent from others, not needing them, relying on myself, self-learning, not talking a lot about myself, and exposing my life to the public In addition to the tendency to remain alone and not to depend on people emotionally
And the tendency to feel uncomfortable when being in public
All of this is my psychological nature, and I involuntarily tend towards these things and actually love them
But all of this does not mean that when I am with others (whom I really love and feel comfortable with), I do not actually laugh and joke. On the contrary, they complain about my loudness sometimes.
But I do not deny that I needed some time to develop this for myself at a certain stage, as I had social phobia in my childhood, where the fear within me confused me, and I succeeded in doing so, and I now feel comfortable and satisfied with that.
God, I have some social shyness sometimes, and I fear in all social situations that it will turn into a very embarrassing scenario. This makes me very embarrassed when my imagination begins to show another line of conversation that could happen and I would be embarrassed in it.
This video resonated.
I have definitely worked on myself over the years and have found various hacks to help me use some of the functions that don't come as naturally to me.
That thing with overall introvertedness and extrovertedness is so true. How is for example an ISFJ supposed to be overall introvert, when he has Fe-Ti line? I would say that it is safer to have such approach with IxxPs and ExxJs, not so much with IxxJs and ExxPs.
I would say INTPs are still more introverted because their Fe is inferior, therefore I feel like it's more they want to care for people, but mostly don't know how to do it well. Also INTPs aux Ne is not extroverted function as people know it outside of MBTI, it rather causes an individual to be even more introverted with it's "dreamy" base.
Oh my dreamy base, could stay there most of my life.
@@alxreiuuser5717 same dude
Rather than outright resist the urge to respond with something logical or a harsh truth when I know it may not be received well, I just.. ask.
"Do you want me to tell you what I *genuinely* think/feel/want, or are you just looking for some support/comforting lies? I'll provide whichever one you *want* right now, just with the caveat that I inform you beforehand if I am lying to you."
While a handful of people have indeed taken me up on the comforting lies, most of them will, after brief consideration and a heavy sigh, ask for my *actual* thoughts. In my (obviously personal and anecdotal) experience, giving people the chance to mentally prepare themselves with the foreknowledge that I'm going to tell them something they may not want to hear is received infinitely better than just stating it outright, or lying to their faces to protect their feelings.
Those people then come back with *new* questions, and when I state the same as before, they'll say things like "I asked you because I *know* you'll tell me the truth, instead of just what I want to hear." or "I want someone to be honest with me right now, and I know that's what I'll get from you."
Didn't start like this, though. Took a nasty breakup that messed me up for years before I started to look inward to see what I could do better next time. This particular response was one of many things I had to teach myself.
As a side note, I mention this specifically because I don't provide my opinion if it's not asked for. The only time I'm in that situation is when someone has asked for it.
Thank you for this!! Just what I needed :)
- INTP
'tend to be quite subtle and in-direct, with their suggestions' me to a T haha. I feel I am very good at talking to people but this is because I will 'manipulate' the conversation in a way to where I think the other person will be most comfortable. Whether I have previous knowledge about them from interacting with them or from some other 3rd party, I will use this to slightly touch on subjects to see if they will then pick up on them and then steer the conversation that way. If I know through someone else they are having some problem or difficulty then I will try to talk about me having some sort of similar problem or even fabricate some small story (just say something seemingly insignificant but enough for them to pick up on) in the middle of our conversation in the hopes of bringing this persons problem forward so then I can help them with it. Not sure if this is normal or maybe I'm just a psychopath O.o
I think I must be on to something though because people seem to open up to me a lot with their problems and people say I'm super easy to talk to also I seem to be a 'moderator' a lot of the time. Possibly because I try to always have an un biased opinion. All this could be due to the fact that I (probably also most INTPs I would assume) don't judge people at all when they talk to me about things. I'm merely just curious in what they are talking about and genuinely what to help them if they have a problem.
I'd like to think i do pretty well in 1 on 1 conversations but in a larger group (especially one with a very extroverted person in it) i tend to slip into the dark corner and just o b s e r v e.
'INTPs try to logically break down patterns underlying human personalities to understand themselves and communicate with other people better'. I took psychology as a GCSE because I was being bullied and I figured that I'd have a better chance of dealing with it if I could understand what motivated bullying behaviour in the first place. Now I'm onto a psychology and counselling degree, so I fully committed :P
omg. i was on the wall in categorizing a person I know as INTP but with this video, damn it's so on point...! and yes one of the good people to be around once you realize they come from a good place with their suggestions and quirky pointers
I watched a video about a week ago about which type is most intelligent or something like that. I think this video answers a few issues I found with the other. I like your positivity and open mindedness. Thanks for all your efforts.
INTP here.
Last October I decided to get fit because I was disgusted with my physical appearance.
My lazy ass would be the last to recognize the amount of good excersize does for the mind. I stand corrected and humbled.
Bonus point I look great
INTP- i play lead guitar in a band. People still tell me i should smile and jump around. I won't. I'm busy listening and analyzing amd predicting where my buddy is going next on a jam. I may look angry. I'm actually having a great time.
I have numerous hobbies. I love backpacking because of the routine and solitude. Less distractions so more room to think out some weird ideas i have. Eat, sleep, walk. Nice routine.
I love golf. Every shot is a different shot. Even on the same course. Every shot must be analyzed. And since i play with other people and can usually figure out what makes them tick rather quickly, i'm somewhat of a golf shark locally because i will absolutely say something subtle that will ruin your shot if there is a couple bucks on the line.
Married now going on a decade with two great kids. Prior relationships were very short lived. Shallowness, "my truth", constant partying, god awful taste in music, near zero interesting conversation after only a month or two, etc. Plus being an INTP i, of course, did not care, had no empathy, lazy. I'll let them slide on the lazy part.
I hate when a grocery store moves things. I already don't want to be here. Why tf would move the things i came to get without notifying me! Also, i really hope i don't see anyone i know. I really don't want to talk to you. And in this case, i really don't care what you have going on. I'm here for food.
It didn't occur to me quite like this until now, but there's a certain charm to social ineptitude that you wouldn't really learn if you just automatically had a knack for social interaction from the start.
I am an INTP
And I feel like - why is my brain so logical than others.
Like sometimes I also feel like why am I so dumb..
Example - during exams
"To Ti the problem of Fe..." I realized recently (as I learned about cognitive functions) that I do this as a solution to emotional matters concerning myself or other people, so it's cool to see someone else describe and acknowledge it.
1:33 Itʼs not like resisting the urge, sometimes itʼs more like that the easy amd charming response would be more appreciated by the person, but you wanna help the person and you think that the most helpful response is the harsh one.
NBA MVP Kawhi Leonard is the perfect example of an INTP that has mastered Se through hard work and repetition. He mastered the basics and the rest is mastered through his read on plays with his Ne. He steals the ball by watching patterns and is amazing to watch. Also, Another INTP Tim Duncan played along side and also mastered the basic of the backboard shot. Both can be seen as either basic or brilliant and never anywhere in between. It must've helped that coach Popovich is an INTJ. Drew up so many basic plays that led to championships.
It took some effort, but being social/expressive is a bit of a weak muscle that can be trained. It just burns mental energy like crazy whenever I deal with larger groups. Easiest way to do it, i've found, is to be with a good friend or two and simply relax as a part of a group. Desaturating the focus on yourself, if you will. You eventually learn how to coexist with others, where your limits are, and at what point you start to burn out. Staring down people 1v1and trying to figure this out cold turkey reinforces the awkwardness. It's not perfect, or fluent, but it's a lot smoother overall and less attention-garnering (which tunes the awkwardness anxiety back and makes it easier)
Physical mastery in dancing, ballroom dancing for me. Exercise has to have some kind of fulfillment on an intellectual level to be something I am interested in. Relationships: I am very caring but misunderstood because what I do has to be of real value in supporting others in their goals, independence or be of value in the long run. I am always looking at the big picture and "in the long run". I have noticed that most people don't think that way so I am seen as calculating and cold in some ways. I have had to reach out in mundane ways, and find value in just knowing that love expressed, even though it might just be a gesture, may have value and be helpful in the person's journey. Yes, we INTP's know how to mutate without giving up our internal truth and integrity. Never really understood. We are, to others, complicated, but it is because we are so vast in our ability to take in information, not only written, but we have big antennas, satellites, and we don't even know where we get some of our "knowings". Because of this openness, we are prone to take on others energies and be affected by them, negatively or positively and not even realize that it is their energy that is affecting us,....until we mature and notice this,.."When I am with this person I feel this way, and when when I am with that person I feel that way....Hmmm." Then we start observing and learning how to deal with this. Yes,..... INTPs socially hone their abilities until they can be quite masterful at socially relating in a comfortable way. I would say that for an INTP that one very important thing to remember is that they have an inner guidance that has to be in integrity....and when younger, it can be manipulated, and they can fool themselves into thinking that they are doing what is "right" when it is only an overlay of beliefs that they have not analyzed, but through discomfort, they come to insights and become more and more in integrity, mostly to the dismay of others who live in a world of arbitrary rules and expectations,..... unconsciously,..... and never seem to question this matrix. The INTP does question it, and eventually does not play by those rules. Then they suffer being misunderstood and often being an outcast, until they find others that they can relate to and eventually learn how to live outside the expectations of society,...... but find other ways to develop REAL connections, and are then accepted, albeit with some misgiving among the unconscious. I have found that as I have developed the heart connection, that it seems to bridge those differences, (and of course, not giving information that is not wanted or appreciated or for which, those people are not ready....difficult and I usually must at least, MUST give a hint, so as to sow a seed.). Most people are willing to accept caring gestures of love coming from a genuine place of caring. That is, in some part, how I have been learning to navigate this world as an INTP. Thank you for your contributions.
I have conversations that I have had and I replay them over and over again and argue with myself playing both roles. I have had times where I have come back to the same argument with the same person and I find I have collected an arsenal of rebuttals and rebuttals to rebuttals they may make.
This is brilliant! I've heard INTPs and ENTPs say similar things when it comes to conducting full on arguments and debates with themselves in their heads ~ Nathan
@@lovewho I had an uncomfortable conversation last year with a very clever teacher about religion. I’m unusual for an INTP because I believe that religion is an evolutionary adaptation and necessary ( I can just about hear the INTP screech in the comments section) the conversation was amicable enough but it didn’t leave my mind. We spoke again a month ago and his position was the same but I had prepared for his arguments. In retrospect I think I was studying him like a boxer studies his opponents moves. The only way I can describe the conversation was. It was like beating him to death with my mind and he conceded. But now I’m wondering if I was actually right and had valid points or was it just manipulating rhetoric I was using. I would rather be honestly wrong than deceive. I think I was being honest, I hope I was being honest.
Im the most stereotypical INTP Ive ever met, and I love songwriting, instruments AND brazilian jiujitsu. To me, those pursuits are all about innovation and finding new ways to combine and utilize different concepts. I also love weight lifting and writing and testing out programs and diet plans.
When I was in elementary school, I knew I naturally sucked at basketball, but I started studying and analyzing it. Then I became decent at it. While I could never move quickly enough, I became a good spot up shooter because I realized shooting a ball into a basket was just pure formulaic physics. I also studied how some of my classmates moved-their patterns on the court on their way to the basket. I began to disrupt and defend them pretty well because I could accurately predict their patterns and tendencies.
As an INTP the physical mastery thing is really applicable to me... Like I'm an MMA trainee and know how to play the guitar and the piano and I've always loved to play sports and experience different expressions of art
If there's a movement I do often - turning around 180 degrees, opening a particular door, getting out of bed - I tend to consciously work to master it, optimizing the motion and memorizing the sequence of muscles used. For those particular movements, I'm surprisingly graceful. Then I go back to being clumsy again.
3:56 Last night I got so frustrated with a routine for my PE class because like, it doesn't look complicated. I got the basics of the routine done perfectly but somehow, I can't execute it well. It took me a whole night of just staring at the video example for me to get the hang of it. There really is a pattern and it was fun to follow along.
That first part describes a very important part of my life between late teenagehood and early adulthood. The rest is also on point. Get out of my brain!
As much as I'm a skeptic and need to convince myself first rather than just blindly go along with a lot of this theory, I find it's really uncanny how many of these predictions based on type are accurate, at least in my case. I often almost forget how socially awkward and uncomfortable I was as a kid, and specifically remember certain periods of time (if not very specific incidents which triggered it) where I told myself I needed to figure out how to appear more "normal" and mainstream, both in my behaviour, speech patterns, but also fashion, tastes, and so on, to be able to get anywhere, socially and professionally.
I've always been resigned to (if not outright embraced) the fact that I often stood out amongst most friends, and even family, as being a bit oddball or unconventional, dare I say even somewhat "proud" to be different, though at one point I realised it was as much a hindrance as it was a unique "selling point".
As a general underlying theory, I guess you could say that we are moderately disadvantaged in society while growing up, not easily picking up on social norms and etiquette, but with time, generally start to figure out how to adapt and often go on to surpass others in skills that they rely on learning instinctively, but skills which we have to make a conscious, analytical effort to pick up - something which seems to give us an advantage in the end.
(Self diagnosed INFP) Describing other sides of a personality type...Wonderful! "Human personality is complex and fluid, and yet, it can be classified" 100%. Does this mean I'm no longer an INFP ; ). Excellent Vid! - Cheers.
I've learned that people who talk about their emotions and whatnot really just need to be acknowledged, so I just encourage them to explain more about their feelings and they feel better. Maybe later, I'll suggest a solution, but apparently I should wait till they feel heard and understand. I don't get it, but it seems to improve my relationships. Afterwards, they seem to be more tolerant of my weirdness. It worked for me, anyway.
I think that’s an excellent approach ~ Nathan
I thought I was an ISTP but this is definitely me. I can Ti the hell out of anything.
I really wanted to dress better so found the Kibbe body typing system and color season analysis to help me with that. To help with my messiness the Marie Kondo method works. When I get stuck in a Ti Si loop my room fills with books and papers, when I’m done those get thrown into a box and in a separate space. At work I’m always calculating the exact moment I can show up to a place to avoid small talk or sitting next to someone annoying. So yeah.
INTP here.
I learned english grammar by making every rule into a "mathematical" formular
I did karate for years. my go to were the forms until people said when they saw my training group doing them: "well, this was Vogelfaenger and the rest." I also was an instructor it was the only time when excelled at teaching someone something.
I like to flirt but for every other social situation I'm so introverted and keep my distance you wouldn't see me in a crowd.