How To Do Professional Mobile Paint Repair

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  • @jamesbond-zx6lm
    @jamesbond-zx6lm 2 роки тому +3

    Little confused about the spray can at the end, is that clear or reducer? Did you sand the whole bumper? Why not clear the whole bumper? Also what size air compressor are you using?

    • @swanginfleet
      @swanginfleet 2 роки тому

      I was wondering yhe dame thing. He said "burn the edge" and didn't say what he used

    • @AceShoot
      @AceShoot Рік тому +1

      It’s a clear blend.

  • @duncangregho1986
    @duncangregho1986 4 роки тому +5

    Thats a really nice paint job,I liked it....what did you use for “burning the edges”, name of product? very helpful video,thanks!

  • @ronyjunior202
    @ronyjunior202 7 місяців тому

    Good job man ! I do the some job and was a little tired because the problems we have painting outside.
    But look you working so organized have me a little hooe to don't stop what Im doing.
    Thanks

  • @Dopboyfreshh
    @Dopboyfreshh 3 роки тому +5

    This is awesome, painting in a clean paint booth is one thing but being outside in the elements is another beast, amazing job 👌

  • @LiLLy_B0SSy
    @LiLLy_B0SSy 6 місяців тому

    In California do you have to use a portable paint booth for a business?

  • @alfredotejada9529
    @alfredotejada9529 3 роки тому +2

    Nice job , and I like mor because you share you basic tools and paint brand…others guys don’t share NOTHING..excellent work!

  • @Legacy690
    @Legacy690 2 роки тому

    I'm supposed to take my Jeep Jl back to my dealer soon to have rock chips on my rear fenders and doors touched up by a mobile painter. The thing is she is only available on Thursday's and the temperature outside has been around 50ish degrees and under and their has been humidity in the 70s and up on every Thursday this far. Are mobile painter able to paint well in these conditions? I'm worried that if I take it to get painted in these conditions that the finish product won't turn out well. Any input from a professional would be awesome. Thank you for your time and assistance.

  • @AllRezo
    @AllRezo 10 місяців тому

    I always check the paint code first before breaking the paint just to double check i have enough paint of the toners that’s required. Learned the hard way 1 time too many to always check first.

  • @meliodasx3482
    @meliodasx3482 2 роки тому

    Do you need a permit to do this ? I wanna fix some small damages from my friends car but idk if I will get in trouble

  • @kyleadams4861
    @kyleadams4861 3 роки тому

    Just curious why u decide to do a burn instead of just clear the whole bumper? Is it just a cost thing? I feel it’s faster just to clear out the whole bumper. And did you even sand anywhere besides your repair? If so it was not mentioned at all. I mean old junk car whatever but brand new Tesla? How do u get repeat business doing that? Not trying to be negative just honestly curious.

  • @royberni2630
    @royberni2630 2 роки тому

    where do you order those paint system?

  • @andraptor5766
    @andraptor5766 4 роки тому +1

    How did you start your business and what steps did u take I’m starting my own mobile business and would be helpful

  • @speedokoterefinishnetwork4937
    @speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 6 років тому +7

    Spot on video. I use the glamor production clear aswell in outside anf garage environments that way it dries quick to keep the dirt out !

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому +1

      Speedokote refinish network thanks!

    • @speedokoterefinishnetwork4937
      @speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 5 років тому +1

      Let me ask you, I use the same exact clear on 90% of my job. Does it Look better when you reduce it ? Never tried reducing the production clear coat

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому +1

      Speedokote refinish network I do use reducer but just a little. Lately I have been going a little lighter on the first coat and putting in a bit more reducer for the second coat and that had been working well. Thanks for asking!

    • @speedokoterefinishnetwork4937
      @speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 5 років тому +1

      Thanks for the info I'll try this

  • @DIYeverything513
    @DIYeverything513 3 роки тому

    Since you are mobile do you have gas air compressor or do you rely on the customer AC outlet to power an electric compressor?

  • @connorlandry339
    @connorlandry339 2 роки тому

    Do you have a full paint system or do you just get small amounts before going to jobs?

  • @tylermoore7282
    @tylermoore7282 2 роки тому

    What’s psi air compressor do I need? Does 110 psi work?

  • @marcoolivares3650
    @marcoolivares3650 11 місяців тому

    Great video brother, how do I get in contact with envirobase rep?

  • @carypipes
    @carypipes 2 роки тому

    Where did you get the paper roller

  • @samoa713
    @samoa713 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the video really helps since I'm in school for collision

  • @RexHaro90
    @RexHaro90 2 роки тому

    Did you sand around the area you "burned the edge".?

  • @octaviocordova3046
    @octaviocordova3046 2 роки тому

    Hi friend. i follow your videos because i have the idea to do the same here in florida. I would like to know if I still continue and what to do to get clients. I would greatly appreciate your experience. good luck

  • @abisaigutierrez6246
    @abisaigutierrez6246 3 роки тому

    Good video do speedokote products work really good?

  • @jaeyoungkim284
    @jaeyoungkim284 5 років тому +1

    Very nice job. What kind of a primer did you use and did you add a flex additive to your base and clear?

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому +3

      Thanks Jae! I used speedokote primer for this job. I don’t use any flex additive and it isn’t needed for the products I’m using. Thanks for watching! 👊👍

  • @nickmerrelli407
    @nickmerrelli407 5 років тому +2

    Nice job.. how much does it cost to carry all those toners on hand to be able to mix any color..

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому +1

      Good question! It is about 75 toners and I pour off into 16oz bottles filling them half way except for the pearls which you fill to 4oz. The cost for that is approximately $2500-$3k. It is expensive but worth it if you want to start a mobile business. Hope that helps and thanks for watching!

    • @nickmerrelli407
      @nickmerrelli407 5 років тому +1

      @@greenreconditioning-mobile8947 Thanks for the quick reply , your awesome..

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому

      Nick Merrelli no problem!!

    • @alexg8460
      @alexg8460 5 років тому

      @@greenreconditioning-mobile8947 where can you order a mixing station like that from and toners etc? Great work!

  • @SirFoodie1904
    @SirFoodie1904 5 років тому +1

    Are you located in San Diego since you mentioned SoCal? I used to paint cars 14 years ago. I want to get back into painting cars again but I was told that they’re using water base paint. I have no clue in painting with water base. Perhaps you could do a tutorial on next video with water base paint. Thanks outstanding job on that paint by the way.

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому

      Kheam Hem thanks for watching! I’m actually in Pasadena CA (north LA county) It was a bit of an adjustment when I switched to water base, the main differences are dry time is slower so u need to use a heat gun while u paint and some colors like black look blue when it first goes on but dries normal. I love it because the color match is by far the best and the finish is great. Good thought on the water base paint video, and I will plan on getting that one out. Hope that helps!

  • @rhysseagrave3001
    @rhysseagrave3001 5 років тому +1

    very good. what power compressor do you use? and what spray guns?

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому +1

      I use and highly recommend the California air tools compressor. It is a 2hp 4gal oilless electric. Here is a link www.amazon.com/California-Air-Tools-CAT-4620AC-Compressor/dp/B005SOD08M/ref=asc_df_B005SOD08M/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312003160272&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17284850244321826492&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1013962&hvtargid=pla-492017908520&psc=1
      Thanks for watching! 👊👍

  • @carbonconnection2480
    @carbonconnection2480 5 років тому +5

    Turned out good man.. I've been in the mobile business since 01-02? Good to see some nice work getting turned over 💪

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому +2

      Nice! That means a lot coming from someone like you. Thanks for watching 👊👍

    • @carbonconnection2480
      @carbonconnection2480 5 років тому +3

      @@greenreconditioning-mobile8947 . Absolutely man! What paint system are you using or is it something you put together?

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому +2

      Aaron Corley I use ppg envirobase. Kinda expensive but I really like it

    • @besimsayici5438
      @besimsayici5438 3 роки тому

      i am a car painter and body work i know you are a good master i want to do this job can you help me

    • @carbonconnection2480
      @carbonconnection2480 3 роки тому

      @@besimsayici5438 if you are already mixing paint and know how to spray a car then you have all the hands on. Just make it mobile, keep things simple and fast... I'm willing to help anyone but if you already have that experience, you just need a mobile setup and you will be banging jobs out first day

  • @Akk13333
    @Akk13333 3 роки тому

    Would like to know where to get what you used while masking off with the masking paper and the tape on it

  • @Lfm599
    @Lfm599 3 роки тому

    very good job or can we find its basic kit?

  • @jamesbasso5825
    @jamesbasso5825 5 років тому +1

    I am curious as to how your paints attach to the wall? Is it a system that can be purchased or did you make it? Good video!

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому

      I bought the baskets and the things they slide into called geartracks that bolt to the wood divider. The system is by “gladiator” here is a link if you want to check it out.
      www.lowes.com/pd/Gladiator-GearTrack-2-Piece-Light-Gray-Composite-Storage-Rail-System/4755769
      Thanks for watching! 👊👍

  • @joseclaudio1670
    @joseclaudio1670 Рік тому

    You need to clean all the dust with PrepSol, specially if there is filler, before and after primer to prevent shrinkage.

  • @Mrsmith1279
    @Mrsmith1279 5 років тому

    Looking bad ass! Working on mine as I type this. What scuff pad should I be using, I bought a p360 and p800. Thanks!

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому

      Mrsmith1279 awesome! Thanks for watching. I think what u have will work great just ending with the 800. Hope that helps!

  • @ahmadwasfi42
    @ahmadwasfi42 4 роки тому

    Nice work , my question what is the air compressor cfm are u using since ur mobile painter am a beginner too but am confused with the cfm.

    • @wheelsone6180
      @wheelsone6180 4 роки тому

      Since he's only using the compressor for the paint guns it really shouldn't be a concern. When running pneumatic tools is when you need to worry about the cfm's. CFM is a measure of the flow rate of air pushed out by a compressor. It stands for cubic feet (per) minute. Usually the higher the cfm's the better.
      He's running an electric oil free 2hp 4gl compressor and an electric sander, so he doesn't need much cfm's. (saw that in a reply post)
      When running pneumatic tools like air sanders is when you will want high cfm's, the higher the cfm's the less the compressor has to work to play catch up in filling the air tank and less drag on the tools when it is playing catch up. I'm guessing he uses the clients power when he can, but with that size compressor a small generator would most likely run it with no issues.

  • @robertgrlic6505
    @robertgrlic6505 4 роки тому

    do you sometimes need to deal with paint runs or clear coat runs?

  • @alexiramos1014
    @alexiramos1014 3 роки тому

    Hi this video is what I was looking for! I was wondering what and where can I get the paint tinta is if from oof too

  • @jonathanf.saldivar6216
    @jonathanf.saldivar6216 2 роки тому

    Awesome video man I truly appreciate it, God bless 🙏

  • @alexthepainter4035
    @alexthepainter4035 5 років тому +2

    Awesome !! I just subscribed to your channel..I am painter my self .. question what size compressor you use?

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому +2

      Thanks Alex! I use the California Air compressor 4620ac it’s an electric 2hp 4gal oil free. I love it! You can also download my tools and supplies for free at greenrecontraining.com
      Thanks again for watching!

    • @alexthepainter4035
      @alexthepainter4035 5 років тому +2

      @@greenreconditioning-mobile8947 okay thanks. Does it keep enough pressure for spraying a whole fender or hood?

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому +2

      Alex Vazquez a hood would be the max I would do but yes it would keep up no problem for a fender. 👍

    • @alexthepainter4035
      @alexthepainter4035 5 років тому +1

      @@greenreconditioning-mobile8947 awesome thank you..

  • @michaeljacobs4982
    @michaeljacobs4982 4 роки тому +1

    very good and detailed video of mobile bumper repair.

  • @jaysheets3519
    @jaysheets3519 5 років тому +1

    How does the blue smart tape compare to the yellow 3m?

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому

      I love it. Quality is good, easy to work with and cheaper. Definitely recommend. Thanks for watching! 👊👍

  • @matts7657
    @matts7657 5 років тому +1

    What type of rattle can primer are you using ?

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому

      Right now I am using speedokote primers and have been very happy with them. Thanks for watching! 👊👍

  • @Ldavidable
    @Ldavidable 4 роки тому

    What compressor do you use ?

  • @antoniovizcaino7285
    @antoniovizcaino7285 4 роки тому

    Would it be better wet sand with 180 and buffet then polish with rubbing compound

    • @chriswebb383
      @chriswebb383 3 роки тому

      Huuhhhh????? That dont even make sense. You can’t buff 180 MAYBE 1000 at most

  • @mreightytwenty8709
    @mreightytwenty8709 6 років тому +1

    Mate great video. Iam starting a touch up mobile business here in Australia. A few questions: Do you use the same size tip for both the base coat and clear coat and what are the size tips you use. Do you like the waterborne paint system better than the other paint system with thinners etc. Love to talk sometime mate. All the best...

    • @jonathanbaird4431
      @jonathanbaird4431 6 років тому +1

      Mr Eighty Twenty great to hear from Australia! I use a 1.0 tip for both paint and clear and found it to work great. I love the water base paint I use and found that the only real draw back is a longer drying time. I think the finish and color match are excellent. Would absolutely love to talk and help anyway I can. You can email me at jb@greenreconditioning.com with a number to reach u and we can set up a time to talk. Wish you the best!

    • @mreightytwenty8709
      @mreightytwenty8709 6 років тому

      Mate thanks for the reply mate. I will email you soon. Regards

  • @mitchellcox7481
    @mitchellcox7481 4 роки тому +1

    How much did this job cost the customer?

  • @reinaldoduron4027
    @reinaldoduron4027 3 роки тому

    What size of compressor you use

  • @dunnock343
    @dunnock343 5 років тому +1

    Don’t you get environment debris on the paint/clear coat?

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому +1

      Great question, there are times when that happens but if you are careful to stay away from overhanging trees or right next to dusty areas/bushes the clear comes out nice and clean. If something does get in the clear coat it is usually minor and comes out with a light wet sand and buff. Obviously if it gets really windy or it rains I have to reschedule the job for another day. Thanks for watching!

  • @jasonjimenez8545
    @jasonjimenez8545 5 років тому

    So how do i get access to colormobile, it says i need a cts#, do you pay ppg a yearly subscription for access?

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому

      Hmmm. It’s been a few years since I singed up so I really don’t remember 🤔 here is a # to call so they can walk you through it (800) 472-4689

  • @autocpr1345
    @autocpr1345 6 років тому +2

    Great vid. Very well explained and instructional. Hope to see more.

  • @juanrojo8080
    @juanrojo8080 4 роки тому

    Where did you get the masking machine?

  • @bigworm6635
    @bigworm6635 6 років тому

    I bought a van and plan on doing mobile bumper repair here in WV. What kind of money do you like to make each day and doing what? What are your avg prices for a bumper , or each wheel.?

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  6 років тому

      Thats awesome! would love to hear how you are doing and help any way I can. Let me know if you want to get on a call and talk through the steps to get started on the right foot. My personal goal is $800 a day average. That is usually 2 normal jobs or one bigger one. You'll get there in o time! send me an email with your # if you want to talk. jb@greenreconditioning.com Best of Luck!

    • @bigworm6635
      @bigworm6635 6 років тому

      How much percentage do you wind up paying in taxes roughly? That's what scares me the most. do you use a CPA for your bookwork or?

    • @bigworm6635
      @bigworm6635 6 років тому

      Email sent buddy. Give me a shout soon as you can :) look forward to learning a few things from ya.

    • @jonathanbaird4431
      @jonathanbaird4431 6 років тому

      Big Worm hey man I lost your contact info! Can u resend? Was trying to find it to call you. Sorry it took so long been crazy busy😅

    • @hansmoffett9758
      @hansmoffett9758 6 років тому

      I've been doing bumper repair in Arkansas for 25 years, so I assume that the economy is pretty close to the same as WV. Once you get the hang of it, and are good, you can expect about $1000 per week as an average. My best year was in 2015, and I grossed almost $100,000, but my average for the past 15 years is about $60,000. I'd suggest you get some car lots, you can't charge as much as a retail customer, but you will normally have work. As far as price, for a car lot $200-250 is a good price, and $300-350 for retail is very fair. You want to make the price cheaper than the customers insurance deductible, that's a real good incentive. Good luck!

  • @Tomcoker1952
    @Tomcoker1952 4 роки тому

    What is the blender that you used? I did not see it in the links good job and well done video!

  • @paulsilverman2944
    @paulsilverman2944 3 роки тому

    Very helpful video,Please make more videos

  • @chriswebb383
    @chriswebb383 3 роки тому

    GROOOSSSSS

  • @jonathanbaird6019
    @jonathanbaird6019 6 років тому +3

    Well done!

  • @immy19991
    @immy19991 5 років тому +1

    nice work i like the masking gun ,

  • @chalkl3y
    @chalkl3y 5 років тому +1

    Good video... well explained content. Thank you

  • @legacyautofocus
    @legacyautofocus 5 років тому

    But you didn't scoff the rest of the bumper, so the clear isn't going to stick well, right?!

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому +1

      Good question! I scuffed all the way to my clear blend line so it will adhere properly. You definitely need to scuff the entire bumper (I use ultrafine scuff pads which is 800 grit) if you are doing a complete bumper. I guarantee my work and have a lot of loyal repeat customer and get to see my work years later with no issues. Thanks for watching!

  • @atemidi8889
    @atemidi8889 5 років тому +3

    Great job. Very professional presentation. Thank you

  • @carlwaylett7013
    @carlwaylett7013 4 роки тому

    Hi mate first time i watch your video very interesting i shall watch more great job 👍

  • @kensuich594
    @kensuich594 6 років тому

    What size tip is on your sata?

  • @kranyat2024
    @kranyat2024 2 роки тому

    Liat the equipment please

  • @blackjellybeanfrenchies
    @blackjellybeanfrenchies 5 років тому

    Dope! I want to learn how to do this, it would be a great addition to my mobile car detailing business

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому +2

      Imperial Kleen thanks! Working on a training course right now and just finishing the e-book. Will let you know when it’s done. Thanks again!

    • @matts7657
      @matts7657 5 років тому

      Green Reconditioning - Mobile Paint and Bumper Repair i work in a body shop id love to learn the mobile side of painting and would pay for training. I hope your course is still in the works!

  • @paulsilverman2944
    @paulsilverman2944 3 роки тому

    I like to see you do a dent repair video

  • @clints8888
    @clints8888 4 роки тому

    No compound and polish?

    • @chriswebb383
      @chriswebb383 3 роки тому

      No need if ic comes out good .. you want an off the gun finish so it matches the rest of the car

  • @Efra-tesa0818
    @Efra-tesa0818 5 років тому +1

    Great video and nice job man i was doing mobile body and paint repairs but my problem is winter time in utah. Thanks for sharing your knowledge

  • @josealvarado-uf3wp
    @josealvarado-uf3wp 5 років тому +1

    👍 great job! What was the last spray you used?

  • @besimsayici5438
    @besimsayici5438 3 роки тому

    i am a car painter and body work i know you are a good master i want to do this job can you help me

  • @smoke9443
    @smoke9443 4 роки тому +2

    I’m looking to getting into automotive painting and this was a great video to learn some basics. Thanks!

  • @jonnyfowder
    @jonnyfowder 5 років тому +2

    should have clear coated whole bumper as it was masked off

  • @fidelortiz6641
    @fidelortiz6641 3 роки тому +2

    You didn’t even scuff your bumper other then where you repaired. That bumper clear coat is probably going to peel. Hopefully they don’t pressure wash it. 🤣🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @willnotcomply4144
      @willnotcomply4144 3 роки тому +2

      I was thinking same thing ive had many bumpers come in to my shop peeling and the clear underneath was never prepped.

  • @randy1ization
    @randy1ization Рік тому

    use 99 percent rubbing alcohol for prep., save u alot of money

  • @louienineball4184
    @louienineball4184 3 роки тому

    Customers don't point out the edge left after peeling of the tape 🙄?

    • @chriswebb383
      @chriswebb383 3 роки тому +1

      Or the peeling in a couple weeks lol

    • @chriswebb383
      @chriswebb383 3 роки тому +1

      If I did this at work my boss would fire me ..

  • @marksenterfitt2214
    @marksenterfitt2214 4 роки тому +1

    One thing I can say he does have a good gun I use a awata 400 but that's just me

  • @Rick-fs9wc
    @Rick-fs9wc 5 років тому

    Didnt he have insurence to get it fixed in the shop properly.

    • @greenreconditioning-mobile8947
      @greenreconditioning-mobile8947  5 років тому

      Rick A good question! There are several reasons they wanted our service 1. No difference in quality from a reputable body shop (and fully guaranteed) 2. Price was lower than their deductible and most importantly 3. Saving time. They would have had it in a body shop for several days, along with drop off and pick up.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @jacobfraley5014
    @jacobfraley5014 4 роки тому +1

    Man you are supposed too wetsand the clear off before you start n spray the whole bumper with clear after

    • @chriswebb383
      @chriswebb383 3 роки тому +1

      No you do not ever have to “wet sand the clear” off .. scuffed is plenty and who wet sands anymore? .also this whole thing seems like a joke to me . The whole bumper should be done and off the car ..

  • @jeffreythomas4283
    @jeffreythomas4283 6 років тому +1

    Should of laqured all of bumper easier

  • @reggienhappiness8851
    @reggienhappiness8851 4 роки тому +1

    90% prep

  • @mreightytwenty8709
    @mreightytwenty8709 6 років тому +1

    Havent heard from you mate ...did you get my e mail?

  • @marksenterfitt2214
    @marksenterfitt2214 4 роки тому +2

    Wow didnt scuff it and your blending the sides wow thats going to look like shit in about 3 months

  • @C.J...
    @C.J... 5 років тому

    Im confused, you say reconditioning but I haven't seen a wheel repair, or interior repair video, nor a PDR or windshield rock chip repair, your just repairing plastic bumpers bro.

  • @j.d9373
    @j.d9373 4 роки тому +1

    nice run under the parking sensor, fucking champion. next time least bluff your blends. yea haww!!

  • @besimsayici5438
    @besimsayici5438 3 роки тому

    You have a contact email? I want to know more I’m interested in starting a mobile repair shop too.

  • @mreightytwenty8709
    @mreightytwenty8709 3 роки тому

    Whats happening mate ?????

  • @marksenterfitt2214
    @marksenterfitt2214 4 роки тому +1

    And water based paint takes forever and a day to dry not good for mobile paint body

  • @man-on-the-tube
    @man-on-the-tube Рік тому +1

    Absolute cowboy

  • @daarionaharis3675
    @daarionaharis3675 4 роки тому

    What size compressor are you using?

    • @wheelsone6180
      @wheelsone6180 4 роки тому

      He's using a oil free 2hp 4gl compressor (electric). I'm guessing he's only using it for spray guns since the sander is electric as well.