The MYSTERY of Wind Waker's Rito Tribe (Zelda Theory)

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  • Опубліковано 9 січ 2020
  • Today we delve into the mystery of the Rito in the Wind Waker.
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  • @NintendoBlackCrisis
    @NintendoBlackCrisis  4 роки тому +118

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    • @WaveAqualei
      @WaveAqualei 4 роки тому +6

      I already have the game so ha
      Also lmao “link’s” awakening

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      @henrybarnhill2443 4 роки тому +1

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      @mortalknight8425 4 роки тому +17

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      @ceilyurie856 4 роки тому +2

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      @mattterrell4304 4 роки тому +1

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  • @thegreatmajora5089
    @thegreatmajora5089 4 роки тому +1328

    I love how the world got flooded and the *fish* people were like “shit what do we do”
    (Guys I know why they did it okay I just find it very funny)

    • @jaydenliberty9536
      @jaydenliberty9536 4 роки тому +40

      The Great Majora I’m on their side even to this day I nearly shot myself out on the Great Sea if literally anything happens
      And I’m over 20

    • @jaydenliberty9536
      @jaydenliberty9536 4 роки тому +41

      I do NOT want to have to be UNDER the waves are you crazy? The worst we get from the sky is a bird that didn’t exist for like a hundred years

    • @ZeldaLore
      @ZeldaLore 4 роки тому +137

      The Great Sea was an illusory ocean, made of ethereal water. The Zora could not survive in it, and so were forced to evolve into the Rito. Stated in Hyrule Encyclopedia.

    • @darkscot1338
      @darkscot1338 4 роки тому +50

      Thing is even if the above was not the case if the Zora were fresh water based aquatic creatures the salt water of the sea would be toxic.

    • @ZeldaLore
      @ZeldaLore 4 роки тому +50

      @@darkscot1338 the zora can exist in salt water too, they are known as Sea Zora. In Majora's Mask and in Oracle of Ages they lived in the ocean

  • @superspider64
    @superspider64 4 роки тому +638

    I've always figured that the zora were actually forced into the form of the rito by the goddesses to protect them from Ganondorf, if he had the Zora he could just enslave them and have them search the ocean floor for Hyrule

    • @kevynlub2655
      @kevynlub2655 4 роки тому +38

      superspider64 damn that’s rly smart

    • @hundwyn7530
      @hundwyn7530 4 роки тому +20

      Better story this way

    • @akumathelion535
      @akumathelion535 4 роки тому +33

      I though the official line was that there were too many dangerous sea monster in the sea. And Zora are a freshwater people not designed for ocean life.

    • @obviouslykaleb7998
      @obviouslykaleb7998 4 роки тому +5

      Before the timeline nonsense, I’d always just taken the games individually. I like the theorizing potential for the timeline, but it tends to make people overthink things.
      IMO the intro, and ganondorf’s character was a reference to OOT, nothing special

    • @chrislevack405
      @chrislevack405 4 роки тому +14

      damn dude.... that's a pretty rad theory. Also, this whole fresh/salt water bullshit is ridiculous... if the damn Zora can turn into birds, then them breathing salt water isn't too farfetched. C'mon.

  • @cloud._nine__
    @cloud._nine__ 4 роки тому +204

    I remember when my goldfish turned into a pigeon

  • @aidenmac3797
    @aidenmac3797 4 роки тому +466

    Have you noticed that the Rito in Wind Waker live on a volcano, and the Rito in Breath of the Wild live in the Hebra mountains? In other words, the Rito without feathers live in a hot climate, and the Rito with feathers live in a cold climate.

    • @renatogarate5618
      @renatogarate5618 4 роки тому +83

      That's an Interesting observation, that could also be a reason for their change.
      Also, some could think "Why don't the featherless just make clothe for the cold?" the thing is, with so much clothe in the way, the could'nt fly properly, so the apearance of more feathers could be an evolutive adaptation to cold.

    • @justsomeguy5390
      @justsomeguy5390 4 роки тому +5

      I concur

    • @lilj3467
      @lilj3467 4 роки тому +5

      Said volcano could be Death Mountain. The Rito could have split into 2 tribes and the one that stayed on Death Mountain evolved into the Gorons, while the other tribe moves to the Hebra region and grew feathers as an evolutionary trait to survive in this cold climate.

    • @aidenmac3797
      @aidenmac3797 4 роки тому +23

      @@lilj3467 That could be a possibility, but the gorons already exist in wind waker. They are the three trading merchants at bomb island, mother and child isles, and greatfish isle.

    • @sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149
      @sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 4 роки тому +14

      @@aidenmac3797 Also, Gorons have already existed more or less in the same form since Skyward Sword.

  • @Plasma-ht9cv
    @Plasma-ht9cv 4 роки тому +283

    I think it’s honestly just one of those moments when they wanted to update the designs but didn’t know how to implement the change, story wise. Any which way, I really like the botw style.

    • @thisisarandomname4150
      @thisisarandomname4150 4 роки тому +16

      Wait, they don’t have wings until they get an evolution stone? Zelda games = Pokémon confirmed.

    • @windhelmguard5295
      @windhelmguard5295 4 роки тому +17

      one more plausible explanation would be that, when the lands where flooded, the zoras who where in zoras domain got separated from the ones who have been outside of zoras domain at the time and due to the sea being infested with monsters, the zoras who where in zoras domain couldn't leave as they could fight off the small monsters who could fit through the entrance, but not the giant ones outside, while the zoras who where outside the domain could no longer get back to zoras domain and formed a population on dragon roost island where they adapted to living entirely outside the water, where granted flight by valoo, but eventually evolved to fly all by themselves.

    • @hoodedanimator7856
      @hoodedanimator7856 4 роки тому +7

      I read this in Revali's voice because of you profile pic

    • @rinyaskyline
      @rinyaskyline 4 роки тому +1

      Tru

    • @copperfish8816
      @copperfish8816 3 роки тому

      @@hoodedanimator7856 Oh no now I can't get Mr. MyNameSoundsLikeATypeOfPasta's voice out of my head!

  • @BirdieSenpai
    @BirdieSenpai 4 роки тому +291

    Deku Tree: You Kokiri are gonna be Korok.
    Jabun: You Zora are gonna be Rito.
    Valoo: You Goron are gonna be food.
    Goron: nani
    Valoo: My dad was Volvagia.

    • @MyPlaylistWillSaveAmerica
      @MyPlaylistWillSaveAmerica 4 роки тому +18

      Yea wtf. There’s only one Gordon in wind waker....what’s his story?

    • @ilikezelda64
      @ilikezelda64 4 роки тому +19

      @@MyPlaylistWillSaveAmerica There's three different ones.

    • @nathandioza7821
      @nathandioza7821 4 роки тому +2

      Gorons, after realizing dat: *DUN DUN DAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*

  • @SnakeEyesOfficial42
    @SnakeEyesOfficial42 4 роки тому +171

    When he said “flooded Hyrule”, it started raining... Hylia help me.

    • @obviouslykaleb7998
      @obviouslykaleb7998 4 роки тому +7

      Joshua West
      Are you fine bro? It’s been 16 hours

    • @SnakeEyesOfficial42
      @SnakeEyesOfficial42 4 роки тому +16

      I’m oka- *blub blu blib*

    • @Digitalhdwmn
      @Digitalhdwmn 4 роки тому +1

      Pray to the goddesses heathens!!

    • @nathandioza7821
      @nathandioza7821 4 роки тому +11

      @@SnakeEyesOfficial42 *DON'T WORRY!* *I'LL SAVE YOU!!!*
      *Grabs giant straw and begins drinking*

    • @prosperstarling3513
      @prosperstarling3513 4 роки тому +5

      @@nathandioza7821 bro are you still drinking?

  • @asheio22bsp3
    @asheio22bsp3 4 роки тому +96

    I always thought the reason the Zora evolved into the Rito was because "the gods" saw that if they flooded the land, the Zora would surly over run the other races of the Great Sea, due to their high maneuverability in water. The the gods had them evolve overtime as to keep everything balanced. I could be wrong though.

    • @obviouslykaleb7998
      @obviouslykaleb7998 4 роки тому +9

      Goddesses.
      Although, they might be mostly useless after they made hyrule then the triforce. Maybe just hylia?

    • @GetPhiledIn
      @GetPhiledIn 4 роки тому +6

      What's stopping bird bird that can fly to any island from doing the same thing?

    • @obviouslykaleb7998
      @obviouslykaleb7998 4 роки тому +8

      GetPhiledIn
      Less resting area. ALOT less

    • @coolguy4306
      @coolguy4306 4 роки тому +9

      They pretty much nerfed the zoras

    • @WhatIsThatThingDoing
      @WhatIsThatThingDoing 3 роки тому +1

      @@coolguy4306 Hyrule Version V20.12.34 balance patch:
      -Raised sea level
      -Removed Zora
      -Added Rito
      -Reduced land area
      -Skills rebalanced (detailed below)
      -Lobby redesign
      -Rebalances to fauna population (check 3GoH.org for details)
      -~~Removed~~ Ganondorf
      Skills rebalanced:
      Navigator (ocean) [buffed]
      Shipbuilder [buffed]
      Cartographer [buffed]
      Swimmer [buffed]
      Carpenter [buffed]
      All magic skills [buffed]
      Navigator (land) [nerfed]
      Stonemason [nerfed]
      Farmer [nerfed]
      Bushman [nerfed]
      Tracker [nerfed]
      Fisherman [nerfed]

  • @BL3446
    @BL3446 4 роки тому +53

    Quick note: bird legs that seem to bend "backwards at the knee" is a misnomer because that is the bird's ankle. That long part that looks to be the bird's calf, is just a long foot. The bird's knee is right up under their belly and bends correctly so to speak.

    • @captaincompound5703
      @captaincompound5703 4 роки тому +1

      Yes, most people would know this as "chicken Maryland"🤣

    • @ferretappreciator
      @ferretappreciator Рік тому +3

      3 years late but knowing the difference between digitigrade and plantigrade is finally paying off

    • @teathesilkwing7616
      @teathesilkwing7616 Рік тому

      In fact, this is true for the majority of tetrapods iirc. Only exceptions are primates, who walk on our feet, and things with hooves, who walk on the very tips of their toes. And other various exceptions. Also aquatic shit but they’re traitors anyway

  • @thisisarandomname4150
    @thisisarandomname4150 4 роки тому +38

    2:11 “I’ll do you one better...WHEN is the Rito?” -Drax

    • @ElPerroJoven
      @ElPerroJoven 4 роки тому +5

      Why is the rito

    • @ElPerroJoven
      @ElPerroJoven 4 роки тому +5

      How is the rito

    • @ravenebony2267
      @ravenebony2267 4 роки тому +3

      I understood that reference. - Cap

    • @dunkleosteusterrelli
      @dunkleosteusterrelli 3 роки тому

      @@ElPerroJoven thinking about it, this and the comment replied to, _actually_ make sense as questions.

  • @kirky4063
    @kirky4063 4 роки тому +59

    Whenever I see people discussing this, no-one brings up the Fokka from Zelda 2. They are shown and described as bird warriors and in both their book art and their 8bit sprites resemble humanoids with bird heads and bird legs but no wings..
    Perhaps the Fokka isn't the name of their species, just the name of their military group (being guards of the final temple)
    Maybe they are the non-Zora-turned Rito that exist, maybe coming from Loftwings. And they eventually grow usable wings. Proving that all 3 timelines have Rito (or at least bird people)

    • @Kahtisemo
      @Kahtisemo 4 роки тому +3

      That would be a cool happenstance if the Rito ancestors could be found in all three timelines.

    • @Mari_Izu
      @Mari_Izu 4 роки тому +8

      "Maybe they are the non-Zora-turned Rito that exist"
      I think the Rito from BotW evolved from Zora too, maybe a group of Zora disbanded the main group and began to live in mountains until they evolved to adapt better in the new environment.
      If your theory proves to be true, so the Fokka could be descended from the evil Zoras, that's why they're evil too.

    • @GrimmShadowsII
      @GrimmShadowsII 4 роки тому

      Not sure the Fokka would be descended from the evil Zora as last I heard Zelda 1 and 2 are the same Link maybe a year or so between them. But it could be a split with some of the Zora staying in the water while some left and became the Fokka.

    • @tsemiu
      @tsemiu 4 роки тому +1

      @@Mari_Izu I don't believe they evolved from zora at all. I think the carvings in twilight hd are canon and the rito were around all along. Just unseen.

    • @tsemiu
      @tsemiu 3 роки тому +1

      @@Dark_Interloper yes I already know this. They may not be canon but I still believe they existed back then. There is no reason why they couldn't. Maybe they lived in the sky or another land. Its possible.

  • @Mom-cf2je
    @Mom-cf2je 4 роки тому +46

    Valoo does actually have a connection to ocarina of time-Another red dragon starting with V that lives on death mountain? VOLVAGIA! Valoo clearly became their protector after they moved to the peak of death mountain

  • @dothedo3667
    @dothedo3667 4 роки тому +23

    "Depicts what appears to be the hind legs of an animal, with a bend that's opposite to knee of a human. _Unless_ the Rito walk on their tip-toes, meaning that this entire part is the foot. Other artwork from the remake and Hyrule Warriors implied that this is indeed the case."
    Um, that's exactly what almost ALL animal legs are. None ACTUALLY bend the opposite way, they're all just differently proportioned. Most walk on their toes and have longer feet, which makes it look as if their "knees" bend the opposite way when it's actually their ankles.

  • @thelittlebosniaexperience8181
    @thelittlebosniaexperience8181 4 роки тому +41

    Haven't we always had two tribes of zora? Don't remember where it was stated but you have the River Zora and the Sea(Oceanic) Zora which have served Ganon as antagonists in multiple games. The Ocean Zora are also more monsterous looking and primal, like the Zora Warrior from the guidebook.

    • @kjn3350
      @kjn3350 4 роки тому +7

      Only in the downfall timeline, I believe.

    • @jakesauter3708
      @jakesauter3708 4 роки тому +12

      @@kjn3350 correct
      The Hyrule Historia states that the Zora devolved into a more primal state in the Fallen Hero timeline

    • @malxire
      @malxire 4 роки тому

      they appear in four swords adventures which is before the split, btw the river zora are the more creature from the black lagoon ones not the ocean ones

    • @77staers16
      @77staers16 3 роки тому

      @@malxire FSA isn't pre-split, it's in the CT.

    • @promienodrzutowysamuel790
      @promienodrzutowysamuel790 3 роки тому +3

      The enemy zoras are in the downfall timeline, where they had no communication with the hylians so they became bad bois

  • @gillybean7557
    @gillybean7557 4 роки тому +100

    I was today years old when I found out that there's a Gillian in the Zelda universe

    • @BirdieSenpai
      @BirdieSenpai 4 роки тому +9

      I was five minutes ago years old when I found out that there's a Gillian in the Zelda universe. I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't know she existed.

    • @UndernetChara
      @UndernetChara 4 роки тому +1

      Same. I too didn't even know of her existence before.

    • @hanburgundy4317
      @hanburgundy4317 4 роки тому

      How didn't you? She runs the bar on Windfall Island.

    • @BirdieSenpai
      @BirdieSenpai 4 роки тому

      While a huge Zelda fan and a Zelda scholar on the games I've completed, I've unfortunately never been afforded the opportunity to play The Wind Waker, one of my biggest regrets.

    • @hanburgundy4317
      @hanburgundy4317 4 роки тому

      @@BirdieSenpai That's a shame; The Wind Waker is a classic - definitely worth a playthrough or twelve lol You can find the original Gamecube (GCN) version pretty easily either online or in your local comic book/video game store (don't try Gamestop, though; go somewhere called "Wizards" or anything with a silly name like that.

  • @bigvidboi4909
    @bigvidboi4909 4 роки тому +4

    hyrule: floods
    zora, who thrive on water and could benefit greatly: NA FAM WE FLYIN

  • @leophoenixmusic
    @leophoenixmusic 4 роки тому +8

    Hold on a second, the carvings in twilight princess look nothing like the rito in BOTW, they look like Wind Walker rito, they’ve got beaks for noses and u can clearly see a human mouth underneath!

    • @TJ_Reactz
      @TJ_Reactz 3 роки тому

      but there hands and fingers are simultaneously wings

    • @leophoenixmusic
      @leophoenixmusic 3 роки тому

      @@TJ_Reactz hmm true, then maybe the rito in these carvings are a semi-evolved version of the windwaker rito, which eventually evolve into BOTW rito?

  • @01loganmc10
    @01loganmc10 4 роки тому +93

    The Zora, a tribe of Fish-People, evolved into the Rito, a race of Bird-People, in order to survive a great flood.
    This makes _total_ sense.
    Edit: Relax everyone. This is only a joke.

    • @Mari_Izu
      @Mari_Izu 4 роки тому +14

      If you play the game, you learn the Great Sea is a lifeless sea, fishes can't live there, only monsters or spiritual beings like the fishmen can.
      So, Zora evolved because they needed other food sources, because the Great Sea have no fish for them to eat.

    • @mattlawrence6077
      @mattlawrence6077 4 роки тому +1

      Bugmen Fan okay.. 🤔 what did the monsters eat then? Zora to Rito makes ZERO sense. Fresh water to salt water adaptation makes total sense.

    • @cosodesign8953
      @cosodesign8953 4 роки тому +1

      M3L4 23 it was just written that way. Get over it.

    • @mattlawrence6077
      @mattlawrence6077 4 роки тому

      CoSo Design lazy writing.

    • @ZombieLeo94
      @ZombieLeo94 4 роки тому

      Isnt that how evolution happened 🤔

  • @ibeenjammin
    @ibeenjammin 4 роки тому +10

    8:40 Hmm, Hyrule Historia mentions on page 127 that Valoo is thought to be descended from Volvagia

  • @samerkia
    @samerkia 4 роки тому +29

    When will Wind Waker and/or Twilight Princess come to the switch eshop...

  • @SuperTrainStationH
    @SuperTrainStationH 4 роки тому +34

    5:52 - thats not - “backwards knee”, its a hock, that entire length is the foot, in both WW and BOTW the Rito stand with only their toes making contact with the ground, as do actual birds, the BOTW design just makes it more obvious.
    Anyway, the WW/BOTW Rito differences are just art style changes.

    • @calebcurry419
      @calebcurry419 4 роки тому +8

      Or the Rito just continued down the bird evolutionary chain to be more bird-like. You know, things that fly find more feathers beneficial and whatnot. More claw-like feet make it easier to carry things when you're using your arms as wings

    • @dunkleosteusterrelli
      @dunkleosteusterrelli 3 роки тому +1

      Well, the first part, yes.
      second part no. First off, you mean design, not artstyle.
      BotW rito can be translated into WW artstyle.
      Second, WW Rito clearly have nothing to do with Botw Rito; maybe in design alone it is just mostly an appearance change, but in full aspect and story, not at all. Not a single bit.

    • @promienodrzutowysamuel790
      @promienodrzutowysamuel790 3 роки тому

      I mean, maybe but the differences are too big

  • @t3mpestt
    @t3mpestt 4 роки тому +16

    What about BOTW Zora armor? It gives link the ability to swim up fountains.

  • @pokersoldier1
    @pokersoldier1 4 роки тому +6

    This is actually one of the more solid theories I've seen involving both the Zora and Rito from Wind Waker. You should get it touch with Game Theory!

  • @dialga4688
    @dialga4688 4 роки тому +9

    I think it'd be pretty cool if the rito i botw were evolved loftwings
    It would also explain the coexistence of zora and rito

    • @dom3306
      @dom3306 2 роки тому

      ...that actually makes sense

  • @allycat7105
    @allycat7105 4 роки тому +2

    I think this is my favorite explanation for this question. Very thought out and looks at every detail

  • @AndiJNava
    @AndiJNava 4 роки тому +19

    What if the Rito from Breath of the Wild evolved from the Oocca?

    • @Mari_Izu
      @Mari_Izu 4 роки тому +3

      They have some physical similarities with BotW's Zora, so I think they evolved from Zora in this game too.

    • @pokekitty1
      @pokekitty1 4 роки тому +2

      @@Mari_Izu what about the loftwings from skyward sword to be honest having them be an ancestor to the rito could explain why both races exist in botw.

    • @promienodrzutowysamuel790
      @promienodrzutowysamuel790 3 роки тому +1

      So... zora evolved to rito and then fuck-go-backed to zora while ooccoa are rito? Wtf

    • @AndiJNava
      @AndiJNava 3 роки тому

      @@promienodrzutowysamuel790 the Loftwings evolve to Oocca and then go on to become Rito. The Zora stay Zora. This is an idea I had just for Breath of the Wild.
      Obviously in Wind Waker, the Zora become the Rito since we know that's the case.
      I just don't think the Rito from BOTW are the same Rito from Wind Waker.

    • @promienodrzutowysamuel790
      @promienodrzutowysamuel790 3 роки тому +1

      @@AndiJNava wtf even more

  • @quintadrago
    @quintadrago 4 роки тому +4

    I'd love to see more windwaker stuff! I've only recently started playing the zelda games and am currently playing through windwaker after having finished botw, and I love to get to know the worlds better!

  • @zetaflames4170
    @zetaflames4170 4 роки тому +6

    While I was playing legend of zelda botw I realized that in the faron region you can hear the champions ballad song that kass plays with out purchuseing the dlc and that could mean that the original champion was from the zonai cause the song could be played for that hero of the wild hopefully zelda botw 2 explains more

  • @MrJmZack
    @MrJmZack 4 роки тому +1

    Great work as always, my friend!

  • @Cassarilla
    @Cassarilla 4 роки тому

    Really enjoyed this video and how you explored different explanations. Wind Waker is an amazing game and I'd love to see more theories on it!

  • @VinSohel
    @VinSohel 4 роки тому +1

    In Oracle of Ages, there's two variants of Zora, both friendly and hostile. The friendly ones refer to themselves as "sea Zora" and the fireball-spitting enemies as "river Zora". So there's precedent for an evolutionary split.
    I believe it's said in game that Great Fish Isle was just recently destroyed by Ganondorf. And it's stated in Hyrule Historia that "the guardian spirits of the three pearls of the goddesses (...) are thought to be descended from Volvagia, the Deku Tree, and Jabu-Jabu". That's an idea I'd like to explore.

  • @potheadjojo
    @potheadjojo 4 роки тому +2

    For sure down for more Windwaker vids, it’s in my top 3 🤟🏼😁

  • @EthanNyx
    @EthanNyx 4 роки тому +4

    In the Adult Timeline, I always imagined that Ganondorf did something similar to the curse on the Deku Tree. He caused Jabu Jabus death, and his descendent or reincarnation was Jabun. And in his youth he was unable to protect the Zora, so they went to Valoo for help in Surviving the coming Flood. Perhaps there was both Zora and Rito, ones who stayed with Jabun but when Jabun was attacked by Ganons monsters perhaps they either passed on or fled into the water and are still around?

  • @picunya
    @picunya 4 роки тому +2

    one thing that immediately catched my eye when going to the rito village the first time in botw was how much the chief kaneli resembles the owl in oot. maybe it is nothing, but it makes you think that maybe the owl is some form of ancestor to the ritos in botw

  • @eliteteutonicknight1
    @eliteteutonicknight1 4 роки тому +3

    I love the fact that somewhere at one point in the timeline, the running/mail man basically got with a Rito or Zora.

  • @bananafishrambles5219
    @bananafishrambles5219 3 роки тому +2

    I always thought the Rito developed from the Ooccoo or the loftwing (then again, twilight princess was my first game and I didn’t get to play much from before that) it’s kinda cool to see how the Zora’s could’ve split tho, staying in the ocean or evolving into a bird form!💕

  • @charlie43229
    @charlie43229 4 роки тому +7

    I find this the minute after it’s published... WOW

  • @chairmanoxygen6811
    @chairmanoxygen6811 4 роки тому +1

    Really love these theory videos. I wish Nintendo did more to organize the Zelda world and give it more consistency. Wind waker is such a small fragment of the world but its such a fun game

    • @Digitalhdwmn
      @Digitalhdwmn 4 роки тому +1

      Always gotta leave room for more interesting stories ya know? Each new game brings more mysteries and knowledge... Yet so much more is to come

  • @sarahthememe8494
    @sarahthememe8494 4 роки тому +3

    Yess new theory!

  • @DingerCity
    @DingerCity 4 роки тому +5

    Please do more Windwaker theories

  • @timthemoviemanmeyers1380
    @timthemoviemanmeyers1380 4 роки тому

    Yes, more Wind Waker theories!

  • @cramerfloro5936
    @cramerfloro5936 4 роки тому +38

    I feel like the reason the Zora evolved into Rito because of the incredible change in temperature and pressure that the water would undergo with a flood

    • @Skylancer727
      @Skylancer727 4 роки тому +5

      Evolution is incredibly slow so it doesn't make much sense. The cross between cats and dogs didn't just give birth to fully formed cats or dogs. It took millions of years.

    • @linkLoverAG
      @linkLoverAG 4 роки тому +5

      That or the goddesses intervened so that one race did not have an obvious advantage over another. Also the thought that the great sea is probably salt water and the zoras in OOT were freshwater.

    • @chrislevack405
      @chrislevack405 4 роки тому +2

      @@linkLoverAG So the evolution into a completely different species is more acceptable to you than a guppy learning to breathe salt water rather than fresh water? ................ come on

    • @ArcasDevlin
      @ArcasDevlin 4 роки тому +3

      I assumed the initial thing about freshwater Zora in saltwater. Even if those in Termina had evolved to deal with saltwater, those in Hyrule still might not have. And I don't think it was natural evolution - definitely some divine intervention. Why divine intervention to make them birds rather than able to adapt to saltwater? Gods are frivolous and random, and they needed to make Medli exist, because we could not live another day without her adorableness.

    • @mattlawrence6077
      @mattlawrence6077 4 роки тому +2

      So you think evolving from fish to birds is more plausible than fish adapting to ocean temperatures, pressures and salt water?

  • @diegoruiz9328
    @diegoruiz9328 4 роки тому +1

    i'd understood from the game that the zora were evolved into the rito via divine intervention so they wouldn't discover the ruins of hyrule on the sea bed

  • @hipstertrash2293
    @hipstertrash2293 4 роки тому +4

    Nintendo Black Crisis i love your theories. Please acknowledge my existence.

  • @emjey0903
    @emjey0903 4 роки тому +5

    Idk why but when I was younger I used to think j‘abu j‘abu from oot got smaller (and that’s why he disappeared when link was an adult) and is now the fish in wind waker xD

    • @BirdieSenpai
      @BirdieSenpai 4 роки тому +3

      I similarly once thought that Ganondorf's voice changing from Nagasako Takashi to Miyata Hironori (who voiced Tingle in The Wind Waker) held some kind of foreboding meaning for Tingle being an evil entity. I was right.

    • @despacitopotato2665
      @despacitopotato2665 4 роки тому

      *J'abu J'abu

    • @jamescanjuggle
      @jamescanjuggle 4 роки тому

      @@BirdieSenpai tingles evil?

    • @emjey0903
      @emjey0903 4 роки тому

      Hyliart person oh right oops

  • @shawmeck9323
    @shawmeck9323 2 роки тому

    Watching this video reminded me how beautiful wind wakes remake is.

  • @daveprice5911
    @daveprice5911 4 роки тому

    Yes! More windwaker please!

  • @mattterrell4304
    @mattterrell4304 4 роки тому

    My favorite zelda youtuber

  • @alyssabelle817
    @alyssabelle817 3 роки тому

    I never caught that the Wright Brothers were referenced in Wind Waker. That’s awesome!

  • @PokDarasu
    @PokDarasu 4 роки тому +1

    Me: OK I clicked the Link.
    Link:HHEEYYAAAHH!

  • @suzannelessard9417
    @suzannelessard9417 4 роки тому +1

    The mystery dungeon music was a good touch lol

  • @spiffykanger7901
    @spiffykanger7901 4 роки тому

    Yay another theorie!

  • @fatalwaffle1715
    @fatalwaffle1715 5 місяців тому +1

    Cool theory!

  • @animatedgoose
    @animatedgoose 4 роки тому +1

    I think the beak looking this way was just an early evolution feature, and then later down the timeline they evolved into more birdlike creatures

  • @MalkavianGhoul
    @MalkavianGhoul 4 роки тому

    I always wondered about this cause it's such a big change

  • @snoopdogg2013
    @snoopdogg2013 4 роки тому

    Its official, nintendoblackcrisis is my favourite youtuber

  • @thelittlebosniaexperience8181
    @thelittlebosniaexperience8181 4 роки тому +3

    What about the Fokka and Fokkeru in Zelda II? They are also bird people.

  • @tattertot8259
    @tattertot8259 4 роки тому +2

    Now I want Marin to be a rito that looks like a seagull in botw2.

  • @RyanHaney55
    @RyanHaney55 4 роки тому

    I'd definitely watch more Wind Waker videos.

  • @HonterDax
    @HonterDax 4 роки тому +1

    I would like to point out that there are two types of Zora present in the Oracle games: the river Zora who are evil and the Sea Zora who are good. If we take into account that the Oracle games take place outside of Hyrule then we could say that diffrent spices of Zora evolved differently

    • @GrimmShadowsII
      @GrimmShadowsII 4 роки тому

      That split, I think, is only in the downfall timeline but if the 3 timelines do join together before BOTW it could be used as an explanation for the co existence of the Rito and the Zora, basicly the fesh water or sea water dried up or something and that group of Zora evolved into the Rito but turned out slightly different while the other group changed into something more closely resembling their past form.

    • @HonterDax
      @HonterDax 4 роки тому

      @@GrimmShadowsII There are Zora Warriors in both Spirit Tracks and Phantom Hourglass. We only see the two types of Zoras (fresh and salt water) in the fallen timeline, but in the Adult timeline where Fresh water Zoras evolved into Rito, the Salt Water ones evolved into evil Zoras and turned into pirates

  • @eonkaritori-ki1345
    @eonkaritori-ki1345 4 роки тому +1

    My two theories for botw rito are they evolved from loftwings(like mentioned in the video) or there was a tribe of zora in the area of Lake Totori that evolved due to changes to the area that were unsuitable for fish people but were perfect for bird people.

  • @Amayawolf_01
    @Amayawolf_01 4 роки тому

    Watching this a week later but I just noticed it was posted on my birthday lol

  • @GamesforCykits
    @GamesforCykits 3 роки тому

    Interesting, very nice

  • @hectorrosalescilips3398
    @hectorrosalescilips3398 4 роки тому

    One word of this mystery it’s just there’s just a roll from this to that and millions of years

  • @dialga4688
    @dialga4688 4 роки тому

    Love that mystery dungeon music

  • @Solomoncaesar
    @Solomoncaesar 4 роки тому

    Yeeeessss please do more wind waker videos it doesn’t get enough credit

  • @macncheesetoes4153
    @macncheesetoes4153 4 роки тому +2

    Nbc you know the glowing hand thing! I thought about it and what it could be connected to and I realized the master sword!!! I feel it would make sense because when the sword glows it looks like the same color as the hand. I also think that the hand is the spirit in the sword that talks to zelda?! It would make perfect sense because also the reason why the sword runs out of power is because the spirit isn't in it anymore and is trying to hold back ganondorfs rage and power, but is still slightly connected to the sword but the hand is losing its power!
    I'm not much of a theorist but I thought it would be good enough to be made into a video! :)
    (Edit) btw the hand might be zeldas mother??? Trying to hold back the rage and power so zelda and link don't die or something?!!
    Just an idea though!?
    I'm going to watch some MORE BOTW MOTORSYCLE TRICKS NOW or I could watch Metty333 hes pretty cool! But obviously not as cool as Nbc!!! Or I could watch zackscotgames? Oooorrrrr!!!??! I could watch some regular botW series? NOOOOO!!!!!! NEVER WATCH REGULAR STUFF ITS NOT GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!! No but seriously you dont want to get sick! Unless you want to stay home to watch specifically nbc videos that are 14:52 seconds long! Dont click on the time btw.

  • @jamesscott5353
    @jamesscott5353 4 роки тому +1

    Great video
    Who's better
    Bird man or fish man

  • @Bulldosaur
    @Bulldosaur 4 роки тому +2

    What if some Zora decided to live in the sky, and some of them decided to hide with Jabu in an underwater city (maybe also some of them could become a fish because of Jabu?) and, when eventually, because of years of evolutions, they gained fish traits which would explain why some Zora in Breath of the Wild are some similarities with different species of fish. They no longer look all the same like in Ocarina of Time ; something changed every single one of them.

  • @ravenebony2267
    @ravenebony2267 4 роки тому +3

    My personal thought is that there were earlier Rito (i.e. evolved from Loftwings) and that they were somehow driven to extinction in the adult timeline split. The Zora Rito, regardless of any desire to keep them away from old Hyrule, were created to fill the void left by their loss.
    Thanks for pulling together all the threads of conversation from the Discord. Great video as aways!

  • @yourbasicgamer566
    @yourbasicgamer566 4 роки тому +1

    when you can flood the world but not stab an oversized gerudo in the neck

  • @tengentoppabrunowalter5097
    @tengentoppabrunowalter5097 4 роки тому +25

    I see my girl medli i click

    • @FirstLast-cj4uz
      @FirstLast-cj4uz 4 роки тому +1

      Tengen Toppa Bruno Walter medley is anoyying asf imo

  • @FastFoodVicar
    @FastFoodVicar 4 роки тому

    Oof, Sidon. Now thats a fine specimen right there. Is it getting hot in here or what?

  • @yamisarkar91
    @yamisarkar91 4 роки тому

    love all the chat about this game awsome

  • @orbit6476
    @orbit6476 4 роки тому

    Wind waker is my fav. I want this on the switch so bad for even better graphics. But mostly because I got rid of my Wii U because I was moving and dropped the box it was in.

  • @jacobvand1792
    @jacobvand1792 4 роки тому

    Yay more w waker videos

  • @sillehyrule1570
    @sillehyrule1570 4 роки тому +1

    This entire video makes my head hurt 😅😂

  • @irishsu8052
    @irishsu8052 4 роки тому

    My friends: is it a bird? Is it a plane?
    Me: no it’s a rito

  • @RoleitAgain
    @RoleitAgain Рік тому

    Eiji Aonuma confirmed during an interview that the Watarara race from the Ocarina of Time manga by Akira Himekawa inspired the Rito. Which is why I love Rito more as the manga was well done. Much so that the artist thought to us it in breathe of the wild.

  • @Mother_of_Pigeons
    @Mother_of_Pigeons 4 роки тому

    Exilent video as always! Just wanted to mention that birds don't actually have backwards knees though. I noticed that you implied that when talking about Medli's legs. The "backwards knee" on birds is actually the tarsus/ankle. Similar to how many mammals, like dogs and cats, technically walk on their toes, birds to a similar thing. Their real knee just tends to be higher up and sort of tucked up against/in the body so it looks like they have backwards knees. Sources: internet and my pet pigeon. ;)

    • @bensoncheung2801
      @bensoncheung2801 2 роки тому

      Are penguin knees tucked up against or inside their bodies?
      Edit: Just looked up “featherless penguin”, they’re inside.

  • @xenawrenn7998
    @xenawrenn7998 4 роки тому

    Tower of the Gods is my favourite dungeon you should definitely do a theory on it ^_^

  • @brittanymclaughlin7147
    @brittanymclaughlin7147 4 роки тому

    Birds actually do walk on their tip toes! So does any animal that appears to have that “backward knee” likes dogs, horses, goats, etc. That “knee” is actually made of the same bones that make up our ankles, just squashed and stretched to different proportions. There’s some really interesting art around the internet that illustrates this!

  • @TheGayestAspen
    @TheGayestAspen 2 роки тому

    "Dragon scales dragon tails, its almost time for dragon scales" -young ritos growing up

  • @ahschornjesus
    @ahschornjesus 4 роки тому

    I think they're thinking ahead. They're slowly changing the timeline to be more connected

  • @mortalknight8425
    @mortalknight8425 4 роки тому +27

    How do I enter if I don't have a Twitter account?

    • @colton.421
      @colton.421 4 роки тому +7

      ..Just make one?

    • @ForeverLaxx
      @ForeverLaxx 4 роки тому +28

      @@colton.421 Who in their right mind would willingly create a twitter account?

    • @hamzahsajjad7952
      @hamzahsajjad7952 4 роки тому

      @@ForeverLaxx is this sarcasm, or?

    • @lanasmith4795
      @lanasmith4795 4 роки тому +4

      @@hamzahsajjad7952 no it makes perfect sense.

    • @colton.421
      @colton.421 4 роки тому

      Lana Smith No it doesn’t?

  • @iamspringtrap223
    @iamspringtrap223 3 роки тому

    0:39
    I think the far left figure on the representation of Demise's forces may be Giharahim. Just a mini theory, but something I noticed

  • @mikelapine1
    @mikelapine1 2 роки тому

    I think what happened is that someone in the different timelines that formed as the result of the OoT used the Triforce in all the different timelines at the same time and this caused the timelines to merge as one. That would explain why Zelda references the events of TP and WW despite the fact that they take place in different timelines, and it would explain why the geography of Hyrule is so different.

  • @DigitalDeath88
    @DigitalDeath88 4 роки тому

    Wind waker switch remaster is sorely needed.

  • @roryfriththetraveller4982
    @roryfriththetraveller4982 4 роки тому

    ive only just noticed the fishmen have tiny hylian-like ears ? perhaps they were cursed to become fish or something idk
    i personally really like the “botw-era rito are loftwing descendants” theory, after i made art of them shortly after doing some loftwing art i really appreciated HOW similar they are

  • @Jus-X
    @Jus-X 4 роки тому +1

    My theory, the Rito we see in BOTW are purebloodled Rito, evolved forms of the Loftwings from SS.
    During the Great Flood of the Adult Timeline, eccosystems changed and the purebloodled Rito were on the brink of extinction. So they bred with the Zora, another race on the brink of extinction, and the result ended up with a crossbred Rito race, which is the Race we see in WW. So yes, I do not believe BOTW falls in the Adult Timeline.

  • @Wulfex
    @Wulfex 3 роки тому

    I have a theory:
    Because the game's water is so opaque, it would have take a long time to develop some sort of underwater transition for Link. Since Link can't dive anyway, and it wouldn't make sense for the Zora to be on land, the devs made them evolve into Rito because they had already planned to use the Zora in the game, so making them "evolve" allows them to use all the Zora symbols, etc.

  • @ratman6754
    @ratman6754 3 роки тому

    Damn valoo really has just been giving out dawn stones to evolve zora into rito.

  • @adaraif9972
    @adaraif9972 3 роки тому

    Maybe its a stretch, but since dragon roost volcano is heavily implied to be the death mountain of OoT, perhaps Valoo could somehow be related to Volvagia? It wouldn't make a ton of sense but it might be a start!

  • @Edgeperor
    @Edgeperor 4 роки тому +1

    Imagine the WW Rito but with normal noses instead of beaks

  • @Beriorn
    @Beriorn 4 роки тому +1

    The Zora turned into the Rito because the Goddess wanted them to leave so they decided to BIRD UP.

    • @nonoctoro4933
      @nonoctoro4933 4 роки тому

      Thing is... were the Goddesses the ones to cause the flood ?
      It just says "The Gods" and the Japanese has no context if "Gods" should even be plural....It's 神, 神々 would be used if it was plural.

  • @ralcogaming7674
    @ralcogaming7674 4 роки тому

    I'll leave my theory here as well. When you look at the WW rito. Many of them have red eyes same as the sheikah. Many of them have white hair as well. I believe instead of the rito being descended from the zora they are more likely descendants of the sheikah. The zora are aquatic and likely hiding deep in the ocean. We also know from breath of the wild the zora can interbreed with other races so that can explain how medli is the descendant of a zora

  • @WhoElseButZane
    @WhoElseButZane 4 роки тому

    A bird's knees do not point opposite to ours, the joint youre seeing is their ankle. They stand on their toes essentially but their toes have adapted the be more like a full foot.

  • @stevenxenoknight3845
    @stevenxenoknight3845 4 роки тому +1

    Earth temple for sure

  • @cyclos12
    @cyclos12 4 роки тому

    The Watarara tribe show back up after long migration to see only water