Launch X431 DiagunIV vs. Snap-On vs. Autel - Part 2
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- For Part 2, let's test some older cars with the Diagun IV:
goo.gl/A4etbD
2002 Suzuki XL-7
1996 Mercury Mystique at 9:00
1992 Oldsmobile Sillouhette at 20:37
I focus on the real-world usability of the scanner, including special functions and BI-DIRECTIONAL controls.
After testing the Launch DiagunIV on 5 vehicles, we get a pretty good picture of how it stacks up to the legendary Snap-On Verus and the trusty Autel MaxiDas DS708.
Enjoy!
Ivan - Авто та транспорт
For those wondering where I bought my Launch Diagun IV, here is the link: goo.gl/A4etbD
UPDATE: the Launch will be back in stock by March 29th :)
The seller told me they would offer a DISCOUNT to buyers that go to their amazon page via this link.The technical support is good; they answered my questions about registering the tool right away.
You can ask any technical questions here:
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Thanks,
Ivan
Is it true you get free updates with this tool? Is a shame they do not ship internationally in this amazon store.
Ivan is the diagun iv a small version of Launch X431 V? Other than the larger screen, are there differences between the 2? Thanks.
@@map7463 Yes, the diagun iv a small version of Launch X431 V,but X431 V can do more action test.
@@sinegra30 2 years free updates!
Ivan, sent you an email.
Thanks for posting this! I got my Diagun IV about six months ago after seeing Eric O use one a bunch of times on his channel. Back then they were going for around $520 on Amazon, and I was lucky to get one from a seller running a promo for $490 all in. Mine was a more basic kit that didn't come with all the pre-OBD2 adapters, but I doubt I'll ever need that functionality and it looks pretty hit-or-miss anyway.
Needless to say I'm pleased with my purchase, but even for over $600 the Launch is a great deal and I wouldn't hesitate to get one today.
Thank you for taking the time to perform and video this review. Excellent! Maybe future software updates to the Launch will include retro vehicle communication capability and fix quirky End Session functionality. Thanks again Ivan!
the way you say "oh ooh" is just hilarious lol
thanks Ivan we appreciate your efforts in doing these REAL reviews
Thank you Ivan. Good job. I am amazed at the free advertisement this Diagun IV has gotten since August of 2018 when Keith Perkins showcased it. Bought mine last year for $518. Supply and demand. I am very pleased with my Diagun IV. Did another free update in January and this tool does great on 2018's. Got my 4 channel micsig tablet DSO in December for $500 from Sainsmart.
That diagun looks pretty amazing. I’m still checking out various scan tools. Thanks for sharing your experience and feedback 🍻👍
Ivan, thanks for a great tool review. They probably sold out by now. I'll try and get one this week. Thanks again!
Awesome review and input. Keith says its good, Codys Auto Diagnostics and you give it a thumbs up, very well maybe my next scan tool purchase.
Great video just got X-431 V + for about a month now and all i can say is wow been working with a old modis and obd2 scanners. Looking forward to videos with your launch. Like you i do a lot of mobile service and watching you and your crew Dr Eric , Dr Keith, Dr Danner and others great techs on YT have been a great help to me and others not to be parts changes. Made me step up my diagnostic approach dealing with electrical issues thank you. Be blessed.
Eddie Davis I was gonna get the v431+ how is it? I have the Autel Elite and Snap On Edge 18.4 Keith said the pro is same as the 431+ amazon has it for a grand
@@weldingjunkie Hi, did you finally get the V431+ & how is it compared to Autel. I'm considering a Autel MK908P or Launch x431 V+.
thanks
Idriss Moussa I didn’t like it, I ended up with the Launch Torque, Autel IM608 , Bosch ADS 625, Snap On Zeus, CanDo C Pro, Launch Diagun all awesome machines.
Idriss Moussa the MK908 is a beast great machine. If you are in the USA tho keep in mind that’s a global unit and can’t use it for Chrysler secure gateway. Sub me I’ll be making a scanner comparison video soon.
I ordered my Launch X431 V today. Can't wait for it to arrive
A timely and very informative video. Thanks !
When I first used mine to diagnose a evap code from under the car being able to use the bi controls, at that moment I knew I made the right choice 👍
cool machine Ivan works like a charm thanks for your service
Ivan guess I made the right purchase without buying all the extra adapters. Half the cars on the tool I've never heard of. Good video Ivan thanks much ❤️️
The adapters are for obd 1
That's a nice wrap up Ivan. I can't believe something so small can do all of that. You and Keith should do some in depth scan tool comparisons because there are so many units out there and you don't want to blow your cash on something lacking. Between the two of you guys I reckon you could come up with a good catalogue of scan tool reviews that would be the go to list......great vid mate. 😉
A well done video showing the capabilities
I have the Diagun IV too. I have tested it with old 90's BMW:s with the old 20pin round diagnostic port. That Launch communicates with these cars with no problem. So it depends on car and diagnostic tool manufacturer what you can do with each tool.
I bought a Launch X431 Pro S Mini which is very similar to your Diagun IV. I have used it on GM, Jeep, and VW and am very happy with the capability of this Launch scantool. Your testing confirms what I already knew. Great series of videos. Keep up the great work.
All of the X431 units use the same software and have the same abilities. The only real difference is in the device size and which options are enabled.
I purchased the same model.
@@kevev Have you had good luck with yours? It has worked flawlessly for me on all three of my personal vehicles. I would buy it again.
I purchased the X431 Pro S Mini also, very happy with it so far.
What x-431 model has all the options available?
Nice comparo Ivan - good info!
thanks for the demo, very informative
Nice comparison Ivan. I have been using my Diagun IV for about a year now, and it does get an "A". The price must have gone up since I bought mine, I paid $498 + $30 S&H but mine did not come with all the extra connectors, it just included the OBDII bluetooth connector, and the OBDII cable connector.
Interesting stuff Ivan, one thing that might be of interest is that I have an Encore and it will read my 1990 K1500 Chevy.
Great info Ivan. Thanks!
I pulled the trigger on the Launch Mini Pro for 699 last night (from Diagnose Dan's page). I've been eyeing these for a while, and from what Keith said, it sounds like the software is pretty much the same. I opted for the in between size strictly for viewing more data graphs at once. I believe my MS906BT, which was 1249 from AESwave, would be considered "equivalent". Basically the updated version of the DS708, but with bluetooth. It just doesn't go into programming, does some coding though.
So, i have the Launch torque and a Snap on Verus. I just bought the Diagun IV , because it seemed to be the best bang for the buck and its cool. I just had a 04 Mercedes in. Both Launch tools and the Verus would not communicate with the SRS system....my friend's Autel will, and cleared the self inflicted codes. You better still bring the Autel on the road with you, Ivan.
Thanks for running thru this X431 Diagun IV .. I myself have found some “holes” in its support (i.e. no EOBD) for older Honda vans.
Oddly, the new Thinktool Pros has the same issue. Reported it to support. Upd. Aha, not in the Honda Menu Screen. On the “all” screen.
I'm a full time student at a college, I never had a scan tool before so I'm looking to spend my money wisely on one what do you recommend. Thanks
Just bought the launch I'm pretty impressed.
Good video, Ivan!
Great shootout, Ivan! That Launch is pretty sweet - love the compact size . The only tool I could get to work on the '86 Grand Marquis is my old AutoXray AX7000 that I haven't taken out of the box for 2 years now (I'd better check the batteries - bet they let the blue crusties out ...). Very basic tool - no bi-directional control, and it cuts off at 2006, lol.
I think you should give the Autel Maxisys a try - mine (MS906TS) does pretty good on Fords. It's extremely slow on Nissan (and one other brand that I can't recall) - and I mean EXTREMELY. Everything else it's been good on. Seems the fastest on GM. Lots of capability in that one. Rarely do I run into something it can't do. Since I skipped an update, it seems to be flaking out on me lately, though. Half the cost of the tool for an update is a real bummer ... but any way you slice it, it's still THOUSANDS cheaper than the Verus.
I'm with you on ABS! Hate the crap! Cars feel more dangerous to me WITH ABS. I have proven, on my own road in the snow, that I can stop a vehicle sooner using my foot, with NO electronic help. Our '93 Volvo 940 actually has it (and airbags), but the system in that seems to work better than any vehicle I've driven, so I left it. My wife drives it more than I do anyway. On the Silverado, everything is tied together via comm lines, so no disabling that one without the dashboard Christmas tree light show, LOL.
Ivan, for the initialisation, try going in from "special function" rather than "diagnose" on the home screen.
Great video Ivan that Autel is so old tho lol next video “how to disable air bags” 😂
Great video again! Please let us know if you trust other older cars and what the result is? I have Autel Elite and I tried once on an older one but it didn’t work. Are you saying that it doesn’t work on any previous 96s, what have you heard? And what about your snap on does it? I know the brick will.
Answered all my questions thanks Ivan your videos rock when can we expect the air bag and abs delete videos
Ivan obd 1 does work 4 me. It just takes sometime to connect/read.however, i only tried it a couple times though.
The launch has the power balance test on fords that support it. I use it all of the time and its update rate is faster than the Autel. It has some awesome capabilities for its size. I’ve programmed dodge key fobs, an older Jeep passenger door module for the keyless entry, Honda keys, Honda passenger airbag modules, etc. I knew it would do a lot but it still surprises me sometimes.
John Pilgrim, are you referring to the Launch model reviewed here?
Thank you for your time. big thumbs up
Those sillouhettes are fast thx Ivan
Especially running on all 6 cylinders haha
Thanks for an excellent test. Is it practical or possible to install and use an under-dash switch to cut off the ABS function in situations where you know it does not function well, such as stopping from 5 mph in ice and snow as you described, and the ”free wheeling” down icy mountain roads that the viewer from West Virginia described?
On my 98 contour, with the airbag system, I think it changed from yours. The autel i can access and do stuff with the airbag system.
That GM adapter was used in other countries till around 2002. That is why it is included. Autel includes it too.
i got mine a month ago and it works well . except last week 2001 civic with running problem no check engine light scanned for codes launch said no codes . hooked up my autel 906 and it displayed miss fire codes . same thing with 2006 altima it will not display past codes
hey ivan...good job on the video. I really wish I had found this vid. before I bought the Bosch. cause it is really a nitemare to navigate with. I think I will keep it any way. My family wants me to stop fixing cars and I wonder what they will say when I order the launch. I think they should give a free class on operating it so it would be easier getting started . I am 77 years old and I'm still working on cars. No rocking chair for me. I just wanna say God bless guys like you that give so of yourself.
Choctawman
Is this a US market tool or is this one of the grey market tools with no US support? The amazon page just has hundreds of questions about if it works with a specific vehicle, but no info on support.
It’s a Chinese market tool sold in the US through King Bolen. I picked one up as well but you shouldn’t have any issues with support from King Bolen with Amazons customer service being as good as it is.
I have the new autel mp808, the diagon v, and the verus 1st generation, and the verdict so far they all are my go to. I also have a gm tech 2 and a modis eetms300 I'm not to sure on those yet I have yet to use them. I got the autel and the diagon v after seeing your videos and danners and Keith so far love the video and the tools. They been awesome and I made some money with them to.
Hey I am planning on buying a launch x431 v+ and the hd version as well wanna know if snap on are autel is better bet
Hey Ivan just saw this awesome scanner review and I am in the market for one does the launch do tpms cloning as easy as the autel scan tool?
I would love for you to do a unboxing and indepth look at the snap on Verus , what you get and how to go though the menu's and how to hook things up , like basic go over of all the basic's
of the verus and different versions. what to look out for if you go to buy one . Have you seen the new snap on ?
I wonder if before you buy a new car if there's anyway you can get a list of the OBD2 codes accessible on the vehicle . I guess shop OBD2 codes for the future service.
Mannn! you rock... just like me(lol) !
I have been looking for a comprehensive job like this for 100s of videos... best damned one HANDS DOWN !!!
no smart arse condescending crap, no babble, straight to it, and quick!
Thumbs up, I would give you 10 if it let me. ...and I am subscribing, which I ever hardly do!
QUESTION: how will this thing fare against a 2010 G4500 Duramax 6.6 LGH Diesel shuttle bus with air ride and a T-harness and 3 compressors (OEM, AUX(secondary Thermoking unit, and a 3rd compressor I have no idea what for)
Thanks for the comment, and welcome to the channel! All these scanners should be able to do the 2010 Duramax no problem :)
How many hours can you use the Launch Diagun IV between recarge?
I need a scanner that works VERY well with older and newer Mercedes-Benz models. Which one do you recommend please?
Hello,
I know this is an old video, but I am considering one of these little Launches. Curious though, the vehicles that you were able to get into in the video all had manual or CVT transmissions - have you looked into the bi-directional controls for automatics? If so, can this little thing handle shift and TCC solenoid activation for diagnostic purposes? Thank you!!! This was a fantastic walk through of the tool.
What's the difference between Launch X431 Pro mini & X431 DiagnulV? I am a little confused
Re Disconning the airbag. I kind of agree given the type of roads you drive on, an unintentional deployment is far more likely to happen. However for normal highway and city driving the probability of injury from shrapnel is way smaller than the benifit it will give in a major crash.
I know this video is dated....does this have the TPMS function to read sensors at the wheels and and ability to program new ones? I work with Subaru's and they are TPMS complicated beasts.
You know shit gets real when there's a Wendy's cup next to a Subway cup.
LMAO!
what's the difference between MaxiCOM MK808 and the MaxiCheck MX808?
Thankyou Ivan
Now you make me want one
Nice comparison.
Ivan, does the Launch display Nissan CVT fluid temp? You need it to properly check fluid level. Thanks. 😀
Wrench Spinner yes temp, snap on does fluid when to change.
Can you look at my autel Ivan it turns on but won’t open up like it lost its program
Would you recommend the Launch Pro or the Autel 808? Thanks
Ivan, I know this video is couple of years old but have you tried using any of the newer Launch items and if you did, are they worth the price?
Is it a full bi directional control scan tool ? If it's not can you recommend a full bi-directional scan tool scan tool for me
Is there a scan tool “resource group” that has comparisons/notes/concerns on the various popular scan tools (Autels, Launch, OTC)?
Great question, David. I'm not sure. Maybe Keith from New Level Auto would know?
Just ordered mine!!!
I think a lot of the issues in the smaller units may have to do with the wireless link. Although it is a nice option 90% of the time, the direct cable is almost always faster. There have also been a few "rumors" that for some vehicle access and connection options, the wireless doesn't work, but if you connect it up, it does.
Interesting...
Does the tool have a vin bar code scan with camera also , on my Maximus 3,0 older vehicles that capability is so so . But also presents manual input so you can just type in the vehicle . Found on older fords, that ids does have the power balance on , the launch has trouble with , but does work on newer models very well . But curious if a manual entry present might of gave you access to the 92 GM . If available on that tool .Great video Ivan .
Thanks, Doug!
nice tools congrat.i wonder if it can do module software upgrade on gm
Do you still use the old Autel, or is it now assigned to gathering dust ?
Brozer is this unit better then autel ts or not.. Will this re program 🔑and fobs.
The maxisys has the J2534 pass-through device for flashing the cars computer. You can't flash the EEPROM without it and its at least a 500 dollar device and doesn't even include the computer or factory subscriptions needed for the car. Just thought that should be clarified why the autel costs significantly more. My friend has one for his car... if you wan't to program the cars parameters you NEED that device. A lot of people do it because the the factory tune favors emissions but they want better fuel economy and power. Much like the VW scandal.
I am in the market for scan tools and i really liked the review!
Great job...thank you...
I just 3 days ago communicated with a 1995 obd1. It will do it but its brutally brutally slow. We're talking 7-10 min slow...but it did it. 97 Chevy truck obd2 no SRS no vin read(manually input). You need to keep going in this one...:-)
haha I'll just let the Snap-On work its magic on the older cars :)
Does the Launch X431 V + full size system have any clear advantages over this hand held model? Thanks for the review
I'm wondering the same. Hopefully someone can help.
Diagun IV $607
V+ $1050
No big difference if you don't do heavy truck diagnosis
Kingbolen Auto Scanner Center what do you call “heavy truck”? Like will this do a Chevy Silverado 1500? Dodge 1500 or Ford F-150?
@@EATSLEEPFARM yes
@@EATSLEEPFARM heavy truck usually means diesel stuff
I see that your Launch shows updates available. Wondering if test results would be different after updating?
it would be work more fast
Will the Autel DS708 read injector balance rates? 2006 Duramax
Probably. Haven't tried it myself.
hello
good work in explaining different modules
Your help would be highly appreciated if you can help out before i buy a module
I am new to this, while i have always liked supping up my cars in the past. I now have a Porsche cayenne turbo 958 2012 model and i am looking into installing a catback exhaust system and re-programing the ecu and increase the power to safe limits (stage 1), I also have one key and would like to make a duplicate.
what is the best module and add on"s that would best work with my car and purposes
help a brother out
Regards
Saeb
Is there any subscription costs associated with the Launch? Does it come fully capable for all makes shown?
It works well on popular cars,No subscription costs 2 years free update.
What model Autel tool are you comparing to?
You should try the Xtool D7 and D8.. I wanted to see the Launch vs the new Xtool D8; but no one has done it yet.
Does it work with diesel trucks duramax ect.
my 2015 Nissan came up GM/forgot? on the craftsmen code reader. Made in the states otherwise, reads all the data fine
Is there a "tool only" option? I would never need OBD1 capability.
@Todd Orton was it $100 or so less? Saw one on line, $520 + $46 to ship from China. Amazon, free shipping $639. Worth the extra to me to go with Amazon. Looks really great for a shop or DIYer (like me).
I just got mine today. Can someone tell me how to activate the alarm so that you don’t leave the obd connector in the car
Mine was on by default...check the volume settings?
Will it program intelligent keys , specifically Mitsubishi?
Good question. Chances are that it can, but I haven't seen a Mitsubishi at my shop in years lol
Hi Ivan i have the x431 V and i used it for 92 mitsubishi mighty max and it worked just fine, read codes, live data and clear codes. But for a reazon a couldn't get anything for 2107 Toyota Yaris ia, and i even tried to do it on Mazda since this Toyota is all Mazda
I was told that there is a fair amount of code crossover between the Chinese manufacturers. There are no hard and fast rules but in general coverage will be weak on cars older than about 5 years before the tool came out. That's why snap on is so good on the old cars. I keep a classic 'brick' for engine diagnostics on the 90s BMWs no other tool will show oxygen sensor data for me on the pre obd cars.
How much is the update and if I don't get the update will the scanner keep working?
Yup it will keep working :)
hey ivan i was wondering what is the different between diagun iv and LAUNCH X431 PROS Mini Bi-Directional Scan Tool Code Reader Car Diagnostic Tool WiFi Bluetooth ECU Coding Oil Reset Injector Key Coding with 2 Years Free Online Update (Advanced Version of PRO Mini)
No big different,pro mini support some car Diagun can not
does this read pin codes for keys. and can it do the 2014ram AGSutters.
Yes sir,Launch Diagun IV can do key programming on 2014 ram AGSutters.
Are updates mandatory after 2 years or do I just need to update when necessary. 400 bucks for update is a bit pricey for the do it yourselfer.
You do not have to update, the tool keeps working without updates.
@@juergenscholl2843 thanx!
So what your saying is buy new Launch Diagun IV & old Snap on brick for OBD1. Unless you need a scope😁
At this point why can't we just buy the software? What else is it, a bluetooth dongle and a android device BTW: $639 if you use Ivans link...
I am with you on the air bags, Had a friend whom hit a car with minor body damage but set of the air bag she was injured by the air bag. It blew her back brusing both are and her chest. She had more injuries from the aie bag than she would have with out the sir bag.
Yeah I don't trust explosive devices it front of my face, especially on the older cars!
you should use Launch x431-V ,pro ,pad for comparison
For Mercedes 1996-2006, which do you recommend? This Launch? Thanks so much Ivan.
Yes, the Launch does a great job on Mercedes!
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Thanks for the input! Really enjoy your videos. Best wishes from Michigan.
Ivan , Don't you think it's time to get a new truck?