How to Make a Feminist Dating App
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- When Whitney Wolfe, the founder of the dating app Bumble, was in college, she was always comfortable making the first move. Today, she’s at the helm of a successful app that puts women in control of initiating conversations and connections. “Generally speaking, women my age have been raised with the notion that they are meant to sit put and not make the first move in a relationship,” she says in this film. Wolfe acknowledges that despite her feminist app, there’s a gender problem in the tech industry. “You can't necessarily blame tech,” she says. “We need to look at the root of the problem, and the root of the problem is the education system.”
This is the fourth episode of The Atlantic’s video series “Women and Leadership,” which explores insights and advice from five women in politics, entertainment, and tech. It was directed by Lucy Wells.
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Here's how you make a feminist dating app.....you don't.
best advice ever.
This video show feminism logic for what their are(dumb)
🤣🤣🤣
No men will use it then it will be use less anyways
"And this is why this kind of people will die alone!" Kevin Samuels.
and thank God for that. We dont need a virus in the genepool.
not alone! what about their cats???
@@GuilleArgies they're just there to dispose of the body
Nah, its you incel loser
@@GuilleArgiesweak masculinity is a curse
So 1,000,000 women all messaging the same 100 men...
Yeah, that will work out just fine.
TokyoTraveller 80/20 rule. It happens in real life. Women will flock to the top tier men.
what's the app name????????
@@Baddawg_313 Bumble
In reality the problem of the app is that women text first just something meaningless ("hi" etc.) and then wait for the guy to proceed with the converstaion which is often not happening. The men on Bumble are generally not assertive so the women there feel frustrated. So it doesn't work very much.
Sure man,. Good looking top 20% man bins of average women in that 80%, she thinks all men are jerks, continues only swiping for top men and the whole cycle repeats itself, always reinforcing her negative opinion of men= in her 40s stinking of cat piss
Hey ladies, here's a tip. In your profile description you should describe yourself as a hard core feminist. That will help you get dates.
😂
Feminism is a red flag for me. Ngl
The feminist dates I had were 99 % the most boring and disappointing dates i ever had in my entire life. My opinion.
Please do make an app where we you openly confess your a feminist. I think it's a very smart idea so that we all know where we stand.
Does this mean that on a Bumble first date the woman pays? If so, I'm in!
No, literally the only difference with bumble is that the women have to send the first message. That’s it lol. Bumble is terrible
@@billsimms2511 how's that feminism ??
I mean ... Equality??
Dat3s are for simps bro. Go grab the girl you want, dont waste time dating her.
No, it means you have to be at least six feet tall, make at least six figures, and you must look like Zac Efron at worst. If you tick all of those boxes you might get a message or two saying "hi"
@@crxtube1870 equality
I dated a feminist once .. WORST MISTAKE I HAVE EVER DONE
I regret it everyday
What happened
Lmaoooo the worst shit ever.
Lmaooo
I hate to break it to you, ladies, but being the guy "in charge" is not always a fun thing. You might look at it as guys having all the power, but it creates a tremendous amount of pressure on the guy. I am expected to give a captivating opener to pique the girl's interest, to say all the right things in order to keep her attention, to feel the situation out and ask her out on a date, to lead the conversation, to make her feel special and pretty, to show confidence without being arrogant, to show humor but only the right kind of humor, to treat her like a lady, but also not be boring, to be assertive but not pushy, to be clever but not cheesy, to prove to her that I am worth her time, to listen more than I talk, and to always know the right thing to say. Not complaining, just pointing out that being the one "in the driver's seat" is not always an envious position to be in. I like that bumble is trying to change the dynamics in relationships so that it isn't so one-sided. I don't mind leading the conversation, but I find a girl who will actually get up and ask me out first to be attractive. It shows confidence and independence
Being a girl, I agree 👍
What BS is that it's not even men tell her not to make the first move. It's her female friends that are tell her not to text first, but it's still a guy's fault somehow.
Yes I caught that too. It’s bizarre because guys love it when women put effort into dating. What planet is this girl living on?
"Why not always let women lead?" Because equality.
"hey, maybe women making the first move shouldn't be tabooish"
And maybe the majority of women like to be approached.
Get a grip!
But that`s not what she said at all. She said why not let women ALWAYS lead? ALWAYS? If women ALWAYS lead then men will never get the chance to lead or be allowed to lead, so basically she is putting bars on our freedoms.
+DARK EMPEROR
Can't believe I missed that part...
+OnceUponATimeThereWasAPersonWithALongUsername.TheElongationOfThatUsernameWasPlainlyLegendary
Thoughts? Saying women must ALWAYS lead is basically "bars on your "freedoms".
Replace women with men in the context of being a boss, etc then there would be an outrage.
SsoulBlade
J Ribs Eh?
I love dating feminist so much.
- Don't need to pay on the first date
- Don't need to open doors for them
- Don't need to have a job (justify it by saying you're giving your job away to women, so they can have a better opportunity)
- Very open to one stand
- Don't need to have a car. (justify it by saying you're trying to save the environment.)
😊😂😂😂😂
@masha Yes..Mam
But People Usually Overestimate Themselves and want To Date Someone from the Upper League of Theirs...
Men think they are Heroes or some sort of Actors 😂😂and they want Super Models...There starts the Problem...And this Advent of Hookup Culture....
Some Men not wanting to take Responsibility...
Even Some Women for that Matter!🤕
@@gauravdubey6989 your answer is not related to the topic...
"Men think they are Heroes or some sort of Actors 😂😂and they want Super Models...There starts the Problem"
studies showed that people are well aware how attractiv they are and mostly end up with partners that are at similar level.
people also do not try to date people that are significantly more or less attractive.
most commen exception are woman that choose less attractiv partners if those are wealthy or in a position of power.
"...And this Advent of Hookup Culture...."
what is wrong about a hookup culture?? when people want to have some fun let them do it... what is wrong about that?
@@ShadowMcSneaky I Agree.
I Can Understand You.
May I ask something...
Please If You Don't Mind.
You are Free to not Respond...
You are Male. female?
Or Any Other?
Just Asking...
To make Friends...
I was not able to comprehend you from your name...Gender nd Nationality..
I am 21
Indian.
Doing Majors in English
@@gauravdubey6989 so you agree after you stated the total opposite in the comment i was answering to?! mmm ok.
i am nearly always male. only when i need to go to the bathroom in public places or when its shower time after the gym and sauna i am female. got me in trouble so many times. people do not respect my gender :( just because i look like a viking with a long beard doesnt mean i am male when i take a dump in a public restroom.
Wtf, was she raised in the 20's or something?
Formidable Foe no time in history was ever like this. Its a fantasy disorder that puts a noble face on spoiled loosers.
Click bait, this was not that funny.
beta simps will be all over that app
One is above your comment already
Literally nothing has been improved by putting a "feminist" motif on it. Nothing.
it does some good. Men waste less time and money on women. That's a good thing.
90% of men stopped dating feminist. Most men date traditional women or regular women its less stressful and a lot easier
No wonder why she is still single.
She’s been married for 3+ years
Not this coming from an ugly virgin
@@lucyrathbun9614 Feminism is evil
@@supravasabat8381 i like how u think u r beautiful lol disgusting
@@supravasabat8381 he still looks better than you lmao.
Im a woman and I would never join this app because I just cant get behind the idea of an all female dating app created by someone, who had a bad experience of having to make a fruit cake and never got therapy to heal and now views the whole world as sexist. You want to date men but dont want the help of the very people your trying to date (men), make that make sense. She says its inclusive, there is no inclusion of men whatsoever. Then your offended that men are biologically wired to be sight creatures. You can do whatever you want but you wont be able to change the biological wiring of men.
For real. You could feel the anger pouring out of her soul when she described boys opening doors for their date.
Scary.
Why are women so angry? I don't get it.
richardhalo
I hope you didn't get murdered by a feminazi!
Because they are being harassed dumbass
The women that are angry are the ones who have to fuck soyboys because hot alpha guys won't fuck them except maybe for one night while they are wasted.
Not women, 8% of women, the crazy ones, the femininsts.
I recommend a french movie called I am not an easy guy/man, you may see why. personally, I don't see any trace of anger in this
Q: How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb?
A: That's not funny.
Feminist do a great job remaining single, of being a side piece, or sugar mama. As for love, not so much
These “empowered “ women just look v sad and lonely
honestly.
I am hearing that many women who use bumble are finding out that making the first move is not all it's cracked up to be. 😏 Because of you are the one to make the first move you can be rejected. And we all know that women in general do not handle rejection well at all.
Yeah why not, ladies about time you do the heavy lifting
These women look so oppressed by the Patriarchy™
so at least you are happy by the Patriarchy
@@mila-ge5ct if there was one, I would be
@@florin604 hahaha look around, we live in a Patriarchal society. Men are in most high positions, politics, business...and even they do the same job, women are payed less
@@mila-ge5ct They are because they work hard to get there. By law women have more privileges and rights than men. Stop lying.
@@mila-ge5ct Also do not forget that the majority of the homeless are men... but you don't care about them do you?!
The problem with liberating women in dating is that you also liberate men. If a man chooses to serially smash and dash, who are you to question his choice? The old school of dating, which constrained women's behaviour, also put serious constraints on men's behaviour in ways that benefitted women.
If daddy issues were a dating app.
Just don't date Feminist. Just find a good Conservative or moderate woman who's not hardcore about Feminism. Problem solved.
If you are always the first one to text, and the first one to initiate conversation and he isn’t, that’s a sign that he’s not interested in you.
The girl in this interview has never had a date in her life.
Neither have u ugly
@@supravasabat8381 awwee
You got triggered huh?
Feminists really have bitter resentful lives😭😂
@@tromboner6061 awww look at u crying w ur mama
Shes not a girl, shes a 45 year old woman
Stop hallucinating lmao
i thought this was a collegehumor sketch
Same
Men can open doors for women it's called respect we know your hands aren't broken I've heard that one plenty of times it's over used and wrong 😅😅😥hey but if you do break your hands don't ask a guy to open the door for u or me and I'm a girl 😅
I’ve opened doors for women and men my whole life out of respect. However, I’d like to have feminists wear a badge so that the door can slam in their face.
Bumble is feminist???? wtf!!!! right now close my membership!!!
If Bumble is a dating app where women make the first move, why isn’t there a real world situation where women are expected to make the first move? Why only online? And while there might be some women who will approach men, it is only an exception and doesn’t disprove the general rule of men being expected to initiate just about everything that leads up to a date/relationship.
I guess the online world is more free and open than in the real(physical) world. Which can potentially be a good thing for women, especially if they know what they want out of men in the dating market.
When you infuse narrow ideology into your company you shoot yourself in the foot. I would not invest in this company, it might get some users from the free attention they get by advertising the feminist angle but it's unlikely to produce an enduring user base. Also there is a reason why men primarily make the first move and not the other way around. This all screams of another faddish startup, they will burn through whatever money they have, adoption will stall and it will tank.
I like to see stats on how long the relationships initiated by women last!
how does it work for same sex users of the basis is women having control?
bro are you now identifying as attack helicopter now? because that would be so PC.
Women should make the first move and make it clear what they want. We should all do that.
3:43 typical sexual harrasment at the workplace
I wonder how many men from India actually wrote the code.
This is hilarious. I use Bumble. I have don’t date feminists on my profile. I usually catch some shit but you can feel their interest building. We meet we smash. Then they find out. I don’t date FEMINISTS 😂.
All dating apps are a fucking gift for men and it’s a shame. They’ve completely given away their power.
Me and every other guy in my class took home ec too. does this broad think we are still in the 50s,, that's right I said broad.
I support entrepreneurship 100%, and I am happy for you and wish you the best. I just want to point out that many women are delicate by nature, and that doesn't make them feel less confident or less secure of themselves. It's actually the opposite. Being delicate makes them feel more feminine, and being feminine makes them feel more confident and more secure of themselves. Masculinity and femininity are supposed to compliment each other. The role of a man's masculinity is to bring out feminine traits in a woman. The role of a woman's femininity is to bring out masculine traits in a man, like protecting women, for example. Few things are, imo, more attractive in a man as making a woman feel protected.
Here's a joke:
What do you call a lady who self identifies as a feminist???
You don't!
hey, the boys took "Home Ec" as well, but I didn't see any girls signing up for contruction or mechanics classes when I was in school
I think women should pay for all dates going forward. Gender equality NOW!
Special snowflake app
I guess the idea of the app seems okay. However the bitter feminist rhetoric is clearly something they have no insight into with their echo chambers of victimhood. Steer clear.
Guess what? Women can text first too in any of the other apps, they just CHOOSE not to.
It's a good app, but just a tweaked version of Tinder that gives women the chance to make the first move. However, 90% of the time, it's just "hi" 😑
In dating apps most of the time it's us men who make the first move... those women there with their cellphones were just hired for that publicity... they look soooo focused on finding a mate.... sure lol
Wrong. It does not "give women the chance to make the first move". It REQUIRES that ONLY women can make the first move. It forbids men from saying hi first. How is this "equality"? Poor Whitney didn't understand English very well.
Conversely, Tinder allows anybody to make a first move. It treats either gender equally. Tinder understands what "equality" means, not Whitney.
A young woman at my workplace was really excited about signing into the Bumble app. Two years later she hates it because she hasn't developed any relationship with a man that has lasted more than 4 dates. And she hates not receiving a reply as she feels that she's the one who picked first and as such should have the ability to reject the guy if she chooses. She doesn't even the chance.
NO
Anyone else just deleted Bumble aha?
This app actually sucks!
If women select to make the first move.....great. However understand this equation: first move + sexual gatekeeper (obviously assuming all is consensual) = a full account of your capacity for individualized choice and action.
Also note that a man saying no, or sexual regret, does not equate to the right to manufacture falsehoods / generate false allegations of sexual misconduct.
Please minister this to the feminist (and all white knights) who use your app.
This is all great advice for any masculine person. Make the first move. Take the lead. Don't expect anything and don't commit right away. Thank you feminism for saying what Andrew Tate does, but with a smile.
your final partner is felix the cat
I’m binge watching feminist videos 😂
Stay clear of a feminist. Trust me. It's a train wreck.
How is a woman who is literally running a company aimed at women 'oppressed,' exactly? Where's the Bumble in Saudi Arabia or Iran?
The root of the problem, isn't 'education. First of all, there is no 'problem,' to begin with, but if you're talking about the wage gap, it's about personal choice (getting married, having a child with a man, not having a child with man, etc) that determines earnings. Please do some research.
It's quite evident that Whitney has absolutely no idea what the word "equality" means and as such, doesn't have the foggiest clue what feminism is supposed to be about. Unbelievable.
I dont know that cats started using dating apps👀
No mention how boys are brought up believing they are disposable. Burning car? Send a feminist, no of course not send that man over there he's not worthy of living
and if she chooses the wrong guy she can only blame herself,.... bumble is a great idea, i been saying for a long time that women should chase men.... bravo to this lady just for that small aspect,... i don't believe women should always lead though,... go ahead, hate me for that comment i don't care lol.
I would love to see some women of color in this video series
Mmmh. . . the how not to date app (for feminists, because feminine women are already married, winning!)
The sheer amount of victim mindset and blatant sexism in this video is appalling to say the least
And pretty much shows why tinder beats bumble hands down.
Feminist and date or serious relationship. That is a joke.
Ive used bumble women still don't know how to try in a relationship. They send a hey and expect you to do everything afterward.
Extremely cringe
Why is this video hated so much? Genuine question, coming from a guy. This didn't seem like the toxic kind of feminism that blames men, in the video she blamed the educational system and society as a whole, so men and women are equally at fault.
Genuine question,coming from a ‘SIMP’
I've dated a feminist.
Realised she hates men
Left sharpish
It‘s literally bumble every second girl has feminism in her bio. An app where only women can get to know you even after a match. I am not sure where the equality point is in here but ok. Will there be an app where only men can get text women? I don‘t think so. It‘s also not sth i am am looking for. I am just saying.
I like bumble. Lets me sit back like a girl, and let them come after me. Easiest poon in a long time. If feminism makes girls more promiscuous, sign me up lol
"With one difference...that women always make the first move." So, "separate...but equal" then? Didn't we decide that was bullshit like 40 years ago? 50?
That's a good idea but also BULLSHIT at the same time
Eat the rich
Feminism is not to make women have advantage over men- it’s to bring women to an equal playing field. “She doesn’t need to be a great mathematician to be a tech person” ... is she really implying that she doesn’t need need to be qualified???
Damn, and here I was hoping for a satire. I think this chick is overanalyzing stuff a little too much. Relax. I feel pretty good giving a thumbs down.
Close your coffin lid by yourself
To make a successful feminist app do not rate on looks. Just rate the male on how much you hate him and all men.
Pretend to be a feminist beta smash and run.....
Make sandwich...now!!!
You can call the app “Cucks Wanted”. I applaud you making an app where women make the first move, but if feminism is the driving force of your platform, then the relationships you form will crash and burn.
This doesn't make sense business-wise. Why would you want to eliminate half of your potential customer base by catering to just women? How is that going to compete against direct competitors such as eHarmony, Match, Tinder, etc? The company offers no real competitive edge in the marketplace to really gain a footing over its competition. I can only see Vulture Capitalist wanting to invest in something like this.
never knew bumble was feminist thats why hookup is normal there i just enjoy fuck with out connect pump and dump ❤️ thank you for creating the app
This was absolute garbage
Don't scroll down, the comments are a dumpsite
What's with all the hate? I dont consider myself a feminist, but Im totally fine with the idea of women making the first move in relationships.
Do they use their own app?
Or Tinder?
Are they in a Relationship?
This video has opened my mind. I even kept Alexa in the kitchen after the videos. 😂
Please make this app so all the people I don't want to date go to one app and stay off the others.
I many men will join that ? 1 man for 1000 women ? Best luck with that 🤣
Why the desperate need to invert everything. Like wtf!?
Bumble is so much better than Tinder. Tinder is a glitchy piece of garbage full of bots anyways. I messaged a girl on another app and then joked about her asking me out after one message (because of what her response was), to which she replied "no, imma lady." I moved on...
Bumble is not better at all. It gives you the feeling of being better but it jsn‘t. I tried both apps. Both are trash. Bumble an app full of feminists with delusional high standards who want to control you. An app where only women can text men? Nice equality point here x)
Let me tell you, you‘ll find real women in sport courses. Because these are the women who actually focus on themselves, who are not in need of a relationship to be happy. So should you. Focus on yourself and the right one will come.
What percentage of the women on bumble propose to their partners?
Cats cats cats...
Hold on!! Wasn't capitalism at some extent oppresing women too?? hmm... but you can also take advantage of it to push your "ideas and struggles for equality" right? lmao...
My god I bet this app is judgemental as fuck
At my public school both boys and girls were forced into home ec and that was in the 90's which looking at her I'm assuming is when she went too, but I went to public school in Hawaii, maybe she grew up in the midwest.
Is the icon for this app a Red Flag?