SHOCKING RESULTS: BEST of AMD vs NVIDIA❗ - Which is better for creators? RTX 4090 vs 7900XTX

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    0:00 Intro
    0:42 Specs Comparison
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    3:27 Testbench Setup & Testing Method
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    5:33 Geekbench 6
    5:55 Adobe Photoshop
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    14:30 So Which one to get?
    15:17 Best PC for Creators - ANY budget
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  • @carrapice
    @carrapice 9 місяців тому +215

    Just a side note, an Amd vs Nvidia video sponsored by Amd? Kinda of weird...

    • @theTechNotice
      @theTechNotice  9 місяців тому +76

      FYI, I had already made this video before AMD reached out about Threadripper Sponsored integration. Parts of this video is sponsored by AMD not ALL of the video! :)
      Hope this clarifies it a bit!

    • @carrapice
      @carrapice 9 місяців тому +28

      Cristal clear, i don`t agree with it but it`s just my 2cents. @theTechNotice

    • @fawkesmk2421
      @fawkesmk2421 9 місяців тому +45

      @@carrapice It really is not something that needs to be agreed with it seems that the review has nothing to do with the sponsor.

    • @carrapice
      @carrapice 9 місяців тому

      What i meant was that i don`t agree, it`s only my opinion on the subject and nothing more/less

    • @nickpalmer4832
      @nickpalmer4832 9 місяців тому +2

      Exactly

  • @Philly2tall
    @Philly2tall 9 місяців тому +376

    I own both and 7900xtx is great for video editing. 4090 is too obviously. But the 7900xtx is underrated and highly recommended from my perspective

    • @guzwana477
      @guzwana477 9 місяців тому +2

      Do you have any issue using 7900xtx in video? I’m afraid to get amd.
      You do photo editing as well? Or just video?

    • @Philly2tall
      @Philly2tall 9 місяців тому

      @@guzwana477 I haven't had any issues. It works very well on Davinci Resolve. Not sure on premiere pro however

    • @plasmahvh
      @plasmahvh 9 місяців тому +22

      @@guzwana477 as long as u don't plan on streaming to services with no AV1 support and you don't plan on using AI or 3d rendering AMD cards are perfectly fine if not better for the price. they aren't bad for streaming just not ideal nvenc is still quite a bit better

    • @guzwana477
      @guzwana477 9 місяців тому +3

      @@plasmahvh thanks for the info, and yes, that AI thing. I saw some people complain about their AMD card having freeze screen when they using photoshop beta (AI) I belive.
      I’m work with Adobe, photoshop, Lightroom, after effect and premiere. Not streaming so far and don’t have plan to do it.

    • @dontmatter4423
      @dontmatter4423 9 місяців тому +1

      do you have both cards? If so are they in the same pc or different?

  • @yomatokamari
    @yomatokamari 9 місяців тому +213

    For those not in the know AMD added blender support for their compute cards on Linux and is working with Valve to optimize their ray tracing on Linux while reworking how AMD cards calculate rays in general.

    • @-in-the-meantime...
      @-in-the-meantime... 9 місяців тому +45

      AMD and Valve both out here feedin' the people... open source buffet, rarely getting credit/a nod

    • @SirBrucie
      @SirBrucie 9 місяців тому +2

      I kinda hate valves guys...so f them but good job to amd. Ayn is also working close with AMD.

    • @didamnesia3575
      @didamnesia3575 9 місяців тому

      That'll be nice in the future. But right now they're firmly in 2nd place

    • @-in-the-meantime...
      @-in-the-meantime... 9 місяців тому +4

      @@didamnesia3575 tell us you don't fully utilize your 4090 without telling us you don't fully utilize your 4090....

    • @KoffyGG
      @KoffyGG 9 місяців тому

      Could you share the source please? I'm very interested.

  • @AK474000
    @AK474000 9 місяців тому +153

    AMD has always been the cards to let cook for a bit their driver improvements are always amazing.

    • @profesercreeper
      @profesercreeper 9 місяців тому +23

      So you mean they basically give you beta drivers and you have to wait for them to reach their full potential. I don’t know why people keep saying amd drivers are fine wine since it just sounds like cope. Just give me the fine wine performance at the beginning.

    • @ArdaU
      @ArdaU 9 місяців тому +17

      ​@@profesercreeperbecause they are still price to performance without the optimized drivers and if people get those GPUs they can optimize it better

    • @EricPlayZ132
      @EricPlayZ132 9 місяців тому +5

      ​@@ArdaU may be price to performance, but theyre buggy as heck and unusable in some instances at release, and even after a few months theres game-breaking bugs, or even productivity-breaking bugs with Premiere or Photoshop crashing or graphical glitches etc, i for one cant wait to switch to an RTX, finally moving to NVIDIA for the first time, ive had enough of Intel iGPUs and AMD GPUs already, both have terrible drivers at times (Intel all the time) and my friends with NVIDIA never have any kinds of issues, while i get all the stuttering and crashing in the world :(

    • @Cenzurat
      @Cenzurat 9 місяців тому +19

      @@EricPlayZ132 not all releases are buggy, this time it was better than nvidia imo, i got both. Its usually when they begin using a totally new architecture or feature that its buggy.

    • @2008SubaruOutback
      @2008SubaruOutback 9 місяців тому +10

      @@EricPlayZ132 The grass is always greener on the other side (literally), I've mostly used nvidia cards 970 > 1080ti > 3080 I switched to 7900xtx a few months ago and gforce experience in general isn't perfect (it feels like you're stuck in 2010 when you pull up nvidia control panel or gforce exp), shadow play does not like to save settings and compared to adrenaline and amd's screen capture, its way better and has more options. I mostly play video games though so when I crash I'm not sure if it's nvida's fault or the game's (I usually assume it's the game's fault form my experiences), nvida might've been more stable in the past from what I've heard, but my 7900xtx has been as stable as my previous cards. I do miss nvidia control panel though

  • @Arkangel88Mr
    @Arkangel88Mr 8 місяців тому +9

    Hell will freeze over before I give Nvidia $1000 for anything.

  • @CaptainMcShotgun41
    @CaptainMcShotgun41 8 місяців тому +61

    I've been using my 7900XTX for about a week now for exactly these things except 3D. And I can personally say, it's shockingly good. Even stability wise.

    • @MrUmmIus
      @MrUmmIus 8 місяців тому +3

      Thank for the feedback, I'm aiming to buy this too.
      No issue with the driver, yes?

  • @jotinhafilho5920
    @jotinhafilho5920 9 місяців тому +14

    Well, sadly im a 3D guy. AMD should do something about it.

  • @perlichtman1562
    @perlichtman1562 9 місяців тому +46

    The 7900 XTX is a really good video editing card but what’s surprising in my testing is (outside of GPU effects) just how close the 7800 XT gets in Premiere Pro and Resolve Studio performance. I would say it’s an even better value. :)

    • @Danidesktop
      @Danidesktop 8 місяців тому +1

      I disagree. Maybe, a 7900 XT is. The 7800 XT is only as good as 6800 XT performance in Blender. If your sole task is video editing and it's DR, then sure, it might be okay. I haven't found any Davinci Resolve benchmarks for the 7800 XT or Premiere Pro yet to confirm your findings. :)

  • @Krowwv
    @Krowwv 9 місяців тому +38

    Really appreciate what you do. Most people just want to look at gaming performance and barely anyone actually does these kind of comparisons for creators. Would you consider doing stable diffusion tests later on?

  • @andersjjensen
    @andersjjensen 9 місяців тому +14

    Hi! New to the channel!
    4:03 PLEASE do not make percentages out of degrees. Temperature scales are arbitrary. If you convert C to K or F you're going to get completely different percentages. Percentages of Watt is perfectly fine as it's an absolute scale.
    When you do percentages of performance and you use the "percent faster than" please write +xyz%. Nearly every other outlet uses "percent faster" (note the missing "than") which sets one as 100% and the other as the total (so 100 more than you listed). I did a couple of double-takes before I realised what you were doing.

    • @akyhne
      @akyhne 8 місяців тому +2

      It makes even less sense, because one product line or brand may tolerance more heat, than the other.

  • @aliviewss
    @aliviewss 9 місяців тому +19

    went from Nvidia1080 ti to Amd 7900 xt, never been happier, this gpu is an absolute monster

    • @keterclassentity6716
      @keterclassentity6716 6 місяців тому +3

      I'm going from 1080 to a 7900xtx shows up in 2 days im hype

    • @Typhoon820
      @Typhoon820 5 місяців тому +2

      Think I'm be joining you guys using a gtx 1070 ATM

    • @chefffs
      @chefffs 3 місяці тому

      @@keterclassentity6716 i have 1080ti and finally getting xtx looks like all the 10 series soldiers are finally ready to upgrade lol

  • @Sams911
    @Sams911 9 місяців тому +6

    $1600 for a 4090?? Where... cheapest I've seen is $2000

    • @falloutpc147
      @falloutpc147 9 місяців тому +1

      Yep I'd actually like to know where they pay $1600 for a 4090. Those cheaper Zotacs sell for around $2000. And the Tuf gaming cards are even more.

  • @serajr
    @serajr 9 місяців тому +6

    Great content as always.
    Why not also include 3D engineering benchmarks like SPECviewperf? It would be great!

  • @shadowghost815
    @shadowghost815 7 місяців тому +5

    I have owned a GTX 1070, GTX 1080, RTX 2070 Super, RTX 3080(10gb), and 2 months ago i bought my 1st amd card. I got the 7900xt Sapphire Nitro ➕️ and Im honestly shocked at how well it does in editing. Whenever im editing a video for my youtube channel, Im currently using Wondershare Filmora X, and the 7900 xt is very snappy on there. Maybe it's the 24 gigs of V ram but I almost didn't buy the 7900xt because all i kept hearing was how the RTX cards blow the AMD 7000 series out the water in editing. However, keep in mind I only use my gpu's for gaming and editing UA-cam videos and when im editing my UA-cam videos , I only use wondershare filmora x. Im not familiar with anything else.

  • @Orginal_Sinner
    @Orginal_Sinner 8 місяців тому +5

    I went from a 3070 to a 7900xtx, my first card had junction heat problems after 2 weeks. Ended up getting a better case and more case fans. It works fine now I've had it for 7 months now with no issues. Paired the card with the LG 45 ultrawide.

    • @deyh5664
      @deyh5664 8 місяців тому

      How is the performance compared to the 3070? Much better or little bit? And the 7900xtx works well with ultrawide ? Im getting the lg 45 ultrawide too, just need to decide between 7900xtx and 4090

    • @Orginal_Sinner
      @Orginal_Sinner 8 місяців тому +1

      @deyh5664 very big performance increase ! You can play anything on Max settings, I wanted a 4090 , I just didn't see a point of paying 700 more. Yes it works well with ultrawide, my 3070 worked great with My old Alienware 34 ultrawide. Once you play in ultrawide you won't go back to 16:9

    • @Orginal_Sinner
      @Orginal_Sinner 8 місяців тому

      @deyh5664 also I got My 7900xtx on sale from microcenter for around 900

  • @joelperry2834
    @joelperry2834 6 місяців тому +2

    i got a 7900 XTX for flat and VR gaming (extra RAM, lower price) and couldn't be happier. Now I am building a video editing rig for my boss, for a new business and he has not decided if he wants to do 8k VR or 4k flatscreen. so researching videos like this one to help him pick the right tools. Thanks for this video!

  • @Adrian-A320
    @Adrian-A320 7 місяців тому +4

    I'm owning an ASUS TUF RX 7900XTX for about half of year. I didn't notice any instability on my system. Even I was playing 8-10h the card behave smooth without issues.
    My previous card was an EVGA RTX3080 and I swapped with AMD one now. Using both of them I can say that AMD drivers has a better integration with metrics and overclocking. For nVidia I had to use 3rd party tools like EVGA tool to do some additional configurations.

  • @jibreelhughes
    @jibreelhughes 9 місяців тому +15

    Pretty interesting to see this. I ended up buyting the 4090 mostly for 3D performance, but AMD is also cooking up some impressive stuff.

  • @savior4134
    @savior4134 8 місяців тому +1

    Do you can hel pme in the choice for da vinci resolve? 4070 12gb vs 7800xt 16gb OC

  • @cybercop47
    @cybercop47 9 місяців тому +5

    better than captain america vs ironman fr

  • @johnpi2608
    @johnpi2608 9 місяців тому +4

    How do they compare for Machine Learning? That’s what matters now.

  • @Ziinev-bt4ur
    @Ziinev-bt4ur 8 місяців тому

    Good testing! However, I want to chip in a suggestion. What you can probably do better next time, when testing, is have a clean installation of each app(i.e a fresh installation of adobe apps, and etc.). That way, you can ensure that the configured settings for each app aren't affecting your testings/benchmarkings. I believe this may have affected your experience last time when you briefly switched to a 7900xt for content creation, as your apps are pre-configured to be maximized under an NVIDIA GPU setting, despite using DDU to eradicate driver issues.

  • @JikoMuskato
    @JikoMuskato 9 місяців тому +5

    I'm mainly editing photos and videos and this is why I chose to go for AMD for my money. Okay, I'm a generation behind with my RX 6800 XT (went for the Pro Edition drivers) but that's still a nice card both for those tasks and some gaming and it was cheaper for the performance offered than anything nVidia could offer at that price point. No 3D modeling for me but that's outside my knowledge anyway.

  • @chinnaramgariakash0029
    @chinnaramgariakash0029 9 місяців тому

    Suggestion Noctua nh d15 support cabinet? Any size requirements?

  • @aleksandergjengst782
    @aleksandergjengst782 6 місяців тому +2

    The 4090 is such a BEAST its insane.

  • @ZoaStousDromous
    @ZoaStousDromous 9 місяців тому +16

    I want to upgrade for too long now and i was thinking to end up probably with a 4070ti, but now im really thinking 7900XTX is the only option, especially since they are about at the same price range!
    Thanks for the very clarifying video!

    • @InnocentiusLacrimosa
      @InnocentiusLacrimosa 9 місяців тому

      I had the same considerations. I ended up with 4070 Ti for two reasons. 1) I bought 7900xtx first, but the card was faulty and had to be returned so I got bad customer experience which created distrust. 2) I wanted to keep gpu accelerated machine learning options open (I dabble in coding). Anyhow, I really wanted to like 7900xtx, but quality control just was not there yet.

    • @ZoaStousDromous
      @ZoaStousDromous 9 місяців тому

      @@InnocentiusLacrimosa Besides the bad quality/manufacturing process of 7900XTX and assume both were working OK, which one would you keep?
      And if i may, which 7900XTX did you bought?

    • @InnocentiusLacrimosa
      @InnocentiusLacrimosa 9 місяців тому

      @@ZoaStousDromous Even though the 4070 Ti has been really good for me, I think it is seriously overpriced for what it is. It is a quality product that I feel bad for paying as much as it costs :-) Anyhow, if machine learning was no concern for me at all and I would get a good sample of 7900XTX - then that would be the obvious choice. I guess it will also age far better than 4070 TI will age.
      My 7900XTX was the "default edition" with both the infamous vapor chamber issue and also perhaps power instability on top of that (I say "perhaps" because once I discovered the faulty vapor chamber, I did not want to spend a lot more time to troubleshoot the causes for the non-heat-caused instability also).

    • @ZoaStousDromous
      @ZoaStousDromous 9 місяців тому +1

      @@InnocentiusLacrimosa i see, i feel the same way about 4070ti, this is the main reason im still looking for alternative.
      Thank you!

    • @felixnnorom7280
      @felixnnorom7280 8 місяців тому +2

      Bro I’ll advise you for that amount just get the xtx tbh I’m an nvidia fanboy and tbh I wouldn’t spend that much on a 4070ti when I have xtx the same price

  • @Ro7770
    @Ro7770 9 місяців тому +4

    Nice comparison 👍 Make an updated video suggesting a specific build for each budget 🤗

  • @nielsonandrade5440
    @nielsonandrade5440 4 місяці тому +1

    so i'm in doubt as to whether to buy the ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 4080 Super AMP Extreme AIRO DLSS 3 16GB or PowerColor Red Devil AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24GB, help please, the focus is video editing in After Effects and Premiere Pro.

    • @KonataTVOrg
      @KonataTVOrg 4 місяці тому

      RTX 4080 super if you are only gonna use it for that and you don't care about paying the extra money.

  • @RmX.
    @RmX. 7 місяців тому +3

    7900XTX is insane in gaming if you set it up correctly + you get extra FPS if you got AMD CPU

  • @10percent4DaBigGuy
    @10percent4DaBigGuy 8 місяців тому

    i need to upscale old family videos do you know a program i can use to upscale old movies with limited data?
    i tried topaz AI but the faces are getting morphed.... can you give me any suggestion for upscaling on a 7900xtx?

  • @keegie_creeper146
    @keegie_creeper146 9 місяців тому +1

    I too have the Zotac 4090 Airo and it doesn't disappoint, although the tail plastic on its end feels like toy plastic

  • @KnutHelberg
    @KnutHelberg 8 місяців тому +1

    I'm using Davinci Resolve 18 Free on my Win11 system with Ryzen 3700X, RTX 2060 6GB, 32GB RAM, and two M2. 1TB drives (Samsung 970 evo plus). Timeline performance is OK when using proxies, but the time to render proxy FHD/final 4K is a bit slow.
    What is the best upgrade path for 500 EUR/USD? Gfx card, CPU or Studio version of DR18? Can I even get 50% or more reduced rendeingtime for 500 bucks? .. scratching my head here.

  • @mrrexy4151
    @mrrexy4151 9 місяців тому +1

    What about stability of both GPUs in DR and PP??

  • @zergidrom4572
    @zergidrom4572 9 місяців тому +3

    Some strange percentage numbers
    like on 11:07 u just look at % and think "oh its 2 times faster" (without looking at numbers) while when u see numbers u understand that its actually 3 times faster

  • @SpaceShortsYT
    @SpaceShortsYT 9 місяців тому +5

    I have the 7900xtx (and a 4090) and I simply cannot record 4k with the 7900xtx in game video's with OBS without stutter. Period. I've tried every encoder, every work around, and spent many hours trying to solve this issue. Don't get me wrong, the 7900xtx is a beast of a card (for $800 less), and it PLAYS 4k games fine. But between the 4090 and the 7900xtx, while "playing" a game in 4k, with OBS, the 4090 records smooth frames and the 7900xtx has stutter in it. Now not "exactly" the same hardware, on the 7900xtx system, I have a 5800x3d with 64 GB of ram, and on the 4090 machine I have a 7800x3d with 64 GB of ram (both have Sony 990's for storage). I just wish the 7900xtx could record 4k and not stutter with OBS... niche use case, but at least worth mentioning.

    • @b1g_j3rm46
      @b1g_j3rm46 9 місяців тому

      Maybe the stutter is caused by the 8 core cpu. Have you tried using a 2 pc setup with one playing the game and the other running the stream and OBS?

    • @SpaceShortsYT
      @SpaceShortsYT 9 місяців тому

      @@b1g_j3rm46 That's the direction I am heading in now. Thanks so much for the feedback :)

    • @onomatopoeia162003
      @onomatopoeia162003 Місяць тому

      sounds like an OBS issue. Does it still?

  • @davidching1660
    @davidching1660 8 місяців тому

    Thinking about buying a 7800xt (alternatives would be 4070 or lower nvidia) I do some video editing (on Davinci resolve) mostly 4K, from searching online I found lots of people complaining about AMD cards for editing, although most of these videos/comments were from months ago. Would you say these issues are solved?

    • @Danidesktop
      @Danidesktop 8 місяців тому +1

      The 7900 XTX does okay on Davinci Resolve - I can't find any benchmarks for the 7800 xt. It might do okay. The 7800 xt and any cards lower tier are not too good at Blender, though - barely matching the 6800 xt on that task. I would try to get a 7900 xt, myself - if the price is affordable or it's on sale (or used).

  • @halosam2963
    @halosam2963 9 місяців тому +3

    I've been a long proponent of AMD and it's exciting to see them starting to give NVidia a good run in the high end (if only AMD would go back to being the midrange king). So, as much as I want to love this video, I have to critique it as biased and unreliable.
    As much as I want to believe and tout these benchmarks, it's hard to trust a video comparing two direct competitors when the video is being sponsored by one of the competitors. Any video comparing AMD vs. NVidia cannot be sponsored by either party, or they lose all of their credibility. This video is well made and the benchmarks are promising, but the AMD sponsorship takes out any reliability for me.

  • @DragRacingTV
    @DragRacingTV 9 місяців тому +1

    great video as usual, although wrt video, if you are editing 4:2:2 10-bit h.265 you want intel or the apple m-chip, not these cards, because only intel/apple support accelerated timeline decoding during playback, in that format... it's rather bizarre than both amd and nvidia have completely dropped the ball there... see the test results at puget systems, you won't get real-time playback in davinci nor premiere with these cards, their main benefit is with rendering on export.

    • @plasmahvh
      @plasmahvh 9 місяців тому

      can't u just get an intel cpu integrated gpu to deal with the timeline? quicksync it's called right?

    • @DragRacingTV
      @DragRacingTV 9 місяців тому

      @@plasmahvh yes, that's how i do it, an intel cpu with integrated video and a 4090 for gaming... davinci recognizes both, and assigns decoding/encoding tasks accordingly... if you are just shooting 4:2:0, i think that nvidia and maybe amd do support that in timeline playback, it's the 4:2:2 10-bit h.265 that's the problem.

    • @plasmahvh
      @plasmahvh 9 місяців тому

      @@DragRacingTV yeah from what ive heard, intel igpus are basically a must for quicksync

  • @louismedina1976
    @louismedina1976 8 місяців тому +1

    My 4080 outperforms the 7900xtx in gaming @ 4k and 8k resolution...AMD wins at 1080p gaming. Great job!!

  • @Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy
    @Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy 6 місяців тому +1

    A 7900 XTX Red Devil for $900? Where? $1050 at Microcenter right now.

  • @AJBtheSuede
    @AJBtheSuede 9 місяців тому +5

    The main problem for AMD's AME (encode/decode cores) is still video quality per bitrate. They're the absolute worst quality for EVERY bitrate when you compare to Intel QS, nVidia or even Apple's M2.
    You typically need about 20-25% more bitrate to get the same quality scores as the other brands. For AV1 and h265 exports the pecking order is still Intel, nVidia, Apple, Qualcom and at the very bottom - AMD.
    If you don't care about image quality, or if you don't have encoding export bitrates constraints then fine. But on AMD based systems in professional circumstances I typically recommend to export projects at several hundred kB/MP/s and then to reencode the result on a render server with a software based solution like x265 or SVT-AV1

    • @theTechNotice
      @theTechNotice  9 місяців тому

      Interesting indeed, anyone else have to add to this? 🤔

    • @worzel505
      @worzel505 9 місяців тому

      @@theTechNotice Thats not what I found using AMD's AMF encoder, though that is via OBS in Linux. I wouldn't have thought that would make a difference.
      Unless AMD's AMF encoder is something different to windows.

    • @simon89oi
      @simon89oi 8 місяців тому +1

      The AVC h264 is dogshit in AMD , but their h265 and AV1 Encoders seems to comparable to the ones in intel and nvidia gpus .

  • @profoundpotato
    @profoundpotato 9 місяців тому +3

    Is amd card good for Blender or Arnold/vray renders? I've read on the internet that applications are more optimized for Nvidia cards.

    • @vigilant_1934
      @vigilant_1934 4 місяці тому

      Did you even watch the results in the video? If you use Windows, the video answers your question. On Linux, AMD is usually the best brand to go with. I had driver issues almost everyday with Nvidia on Linux Mint.

  • @elijah5011
    @elijah5011 9 місяців тому +13

    Great test. Could you test the rx7700xt/7800xt vs rtx4060ti/4070 and lower too. Would be interesting to see how drivers and optimizations improve AMD and how it stacks up with the cheaper cards and if it is still worth paying more for Nvidia for creators. Also curious if AMD's IGPU improve performance now like Intel quick sync after the new optimizations from AMD. Keep up the great content.

    • @fbyrd99
      @fbyrd99 8 місяців тому

      Wow. You don't ask for much. How much $$$ are you going to pay for this additional testing? LOL

  • @bohomazdesign725
    @bohomazdesign725 9 місяців тому

    Apparently there will be "soon" (at least for Blender, IDK about other softwares, but I assume also) hardware acceleration for Raytracing in Cycles. So far in early builds it gives only a 30% render time boost, but tbf the rendering I saw was done on a RX6000 series card which perform much worse at RT tasks than RX 7000 cards.

  • @clearlight293
    @clearlight293 9 місяців тому +16

    Will be interesting to do a retest when devs will optimize their software to work with ROCm now that it's available on Windows for RDNA 2 & 3 GPUs.

  • @maxh3539
    @maxh3539 9 місяців тому +2

    For a LRC benchmark, you can select 50-100 and do a denoise on all of them, stop the time and show the performance (You dont have to do it 5 times per card ;)). Also, the export time is really interesting (especially for timelapsers and wedding photographers) who are exporting 400-1,000 images (or more) at a time.
    For me, my 13900K is faster than my 3070 in exporting, but the noise and power draw are much more tolerable on the 3070.

    • @maxh3539
      @maxh3539 9 місяців тому

      I have run my own benchmark. I was wrong by 80%.
      101 .DNG Files to .JPEG 90% Quality (EOS R5 45MP 8192x5464)
      GPU Export I9 13900K RTX 3070 128 GB RAM TIME: 02:42:00 2 min 42 sec
      CPU Export I9 13900K RTX 3070 128 GB RAM TIME: 04:52:07 4 min 52 sec

    • @eyewitness4560
      @eyewitness4560 9 місяців тому +1

      I was kinda floored when my (very)[very]{very} old GTX 960 took around 8-10 minutes AI denoising one image from my R6MK2 in LRC, so I needed to actually decide which images gets the full treatment or not, and upon upgrading to the 7900xtx it does it in ~ 7 seconds, basically adding zero time to the workflow with pretty incredible results.

    • @maxh3539
      @maxh3539 9 місяців тому

      @@eyewitness4560 I am also thinking about an upgrade to a 7900xtx or 4080. But manly for the extra VRAM in gaming. 8GB is sometimes not enough. The extra export performance is a welcome benefit.

    • @rivendzi
      @rivendzi 8 місяців тому

      @@maxh3539 Which one did you get?

    • @RmX.
      @RmX. 7 місяців тому

      @@maxh3539 7900xtx(24GB VRAM) vs 4080(16GB VRAM) I guess it's easy choice

  • @jjs71072
    @jjs71072 8 місяців тому

    I have a water cooled 7900xtx and it's rock solid. Thanks for the video.

  • @itzsabbage3830
    @itzsabbage3830 7 місяців тому +1

    You making me feel ever better about my 7900xtx purchase

  • @perlichtman1562
    @perlichtman1562 9 місяців тому +2

    The 7900 XTX Blender performance is nowhere near the 4090 either with or without HIP-RT. But at least with HIP-RT is is 11-31% faster on those benchmarks scenes than in the normal benchmark scores.

  • @lilunchengsmiles
    @lilunchengsmiles 8 місяців тому +1

    I am a gamer but at the same time, machine learning engineer, I have no choice but go with Nvidia GPU.

  • @viktorarchprime
    @viktorarchprime 9 місяців тому +1

    Please can you do 3d test like unreal engine , twinmotion, D5 render benchmark. Thanks

  • @diggydretv
    @diggydretv 9 місяців тому +4

    I would rock AMD for the price, but with my profession (3D animation and Visual effects) there are some programs that we use that require CUDA cores to even get the program open. I found that out when I was first starting out years ago and thought I didn't need a GPU to use a certain animation software.... I ended up with my first GPU then, lol. I think it all comes down to intent. Gaming, work, or creative.

    • @jonosvlog9913
      @jonosvlog9913 9 місяців тому +1

      3D animation and Visual effects does this apply to Maya, Houdini, katana, Nuke, Zbrush Mamoset Toolbag and their renderers as well? Thanks! I need to make sure I get the correct GPU for the 3D industry. Thanks!

    • @akyhne
      @akyhne 8 місяців тому +1

      I'm sad to say so, but for productivity, there's only Nvidia.
      AMD have been sleeping on the side for many years, and only focused on gaming. It seems like they're waking up, but it will be years before various software will support AMD.
      I wanted so bad for my next GPU to be an AMD, but had to go for Nvidia... again!
      We need the competition, like really bad. The price difference says it all.

    • @autolove9171
      @autolove9171 8 місяців тому

      What GPU did he get? (i is used for 3D animation and visual effects)

  • @JoeLiberto
    @JoeLiberto 2 місяці тому

    thank you this is exactly what I needed whenever I look up 7900 XTX versus the 4090 everyone has benchmarks on gaming and not necessarily video and photo applications. Great job. You definitely solidified my purchase decision.

  • @Viskoze
    @Viskoze 9 місяців тому +1

    7900 XTX user here. Lightroom Classic often will eat the whole 24GB of cards VRAM and won't release it, resulting in stutters, lag etc. Only restart of the program helps. Anyone else noticed this behavior? Is it the same on nvidia?
    I bought this card specifically so I don't have problems with insufficient memory and i'm feeling somewhat bamboozled. I've had this card for about half a year and it has always been like that, with heavier workloads.

  • @hong_1712
    @hong_1712 15 днів тому

    If i only do Adobe, photoshop, Lightroom, after effect and premiere (not 4k, only 1440p). and some gaming. is it 7900 XT enough?
    Can you do comparison between 7900 xt and 4070 ti super for creators?

  • @Parky-pm2sg
    @Parky-pm2sg 9 місяців тому +2

    Hey Man I love your comparisons and reviews of graphics cards, tech and laptop videos I was wondering if you would please consider to review the Acer Predator Triton 17x (2023) laptop as there are no in depth reviews of this laptop and it’s a solid laptop overall for productivity and gaming with a stunning 250hz Mini LED display option.

  • @henryd4331
    @henryd4331 9 місяців тому +2

    I can't afford either. I'm sticking with my 3060 12 Gb for now.

  • @hondajacka2
    @hondajacka2 9 місяців тому +3

    People will pay a lot for 4090 because of AI applications.

  • @Negaimo
    @Negaimo 2 місяці тому

    The XTX is my daily driver for gaming and video editing as well as running a personal LLM, and I don't regret it at all.

  • @mikerochburns4104
    @mikerochburns4104 8 місяців тому +2

    Nvidia stans "but the AMD drivers!!!" 😂

  • @perlichtman1562
    @perlichtman1562 9 місяців тому +6

    Great video. Honestly I think Nvidia really need to step up on the encoders because Intel and AMD are the ones making bigger strides in that area lately.

    • @KoffyGG
      @KoffyGG 9 місяців тому

      I think they're going all in on AI at this point.

  • @nando03012009
    @nando03012009 8 місяців тому +1

    Having both, i can honestly say that a lot of the software is optimized for Nvidia.

  • @syhler1876
    @syhler1876 9 місяців тому

    Whits one is best for gaming?

  • @SidorovichJr
    @SidorovichJr 9 місяців тому

    Gaming is preety obvious too, if you are chasing latest graphics tech on your qdoled tv

  • @kevinkev1530
    @kevinkev1530 9 місяців тому

    Thx for the info

  • @Born_Stellar
    @Born_Stellar 9 місяців тому

    was the threadripper spot an ad? lol

  • @xcal99999
    @xcal99999 9 місяців тому +3

    I would buy 7900XTX in a heart beat BUT since I mostly work with 3D apps and rendering I have to go with 4090 unfortunately. I am literally getting forced to buy nvidia at this point >_

    • @harryniedecken5321
      @harryniedecken5321 9 місяців тому +1

      The amd card for your application is the ws pro cards. They are specially designed for that application. I want one but the price point is also very pro oriented.

    • @PsychoBenches
      @PsychoBenches 6 місяців тому

      No one can blame you, it's pretty well known without CUDA or optix some people are forced to stay with nvidia.

    • @onomatopoeia162003
      @onomatopoeia162003 Місяць тому

      @@harryniedecken5321 the newest one is like the W7900 with like 48gb

  • @blackhoundrise8431
    @blackhoundrise8431 9 місяців тому +1

    Another awesome video. Nvidia got more mainstream software support so makes sense from a creator perspective. Particularly Vray and 3d design work. For me it is all about what you do and what you need and maybe what you can stomach and of course… what your budget is.
    I’m curious, AMD bad news - is it about speed? Are the cards still crashing mid render?

    • @Philly2tall
      @Philly2tall 9 місяців тому

      I've had more crashes on my 4090. Haven't had one on the 7900xtx yet. Fingers crossed lol

    • @Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy
      @Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy 9 місяців тому

      @@Philly2tall I returned a 4070 Ti yesterday because of crashing during games. It would run 120 fps on Ultra with Ray tracing and DLSS3 on, like it wasn't struggling at all, then crash, either the game would freeze completely, or sometimes my PC would even shut off. Back to AMD for me.

    • @Philly2tall
      @Philly2tall 9 місяців тому

      @@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy I have the exact same issue with my 4090. It keeps crashing. Don't have this issue with 7900xtx, at least not yet

  • @raulurangarodriguez
    @raulurangarodriguez 4 місяці тому

    I got the RD LE RX 7900 XTX and totally in love with it! Jump from an RX 6900 XT and then a RTX 4070 ti. By far the RX 7900 XTX was the best choice.

  • @Kylethejobber
    @Kylethejobber 3 місяці тому

    I got a 7900xtx at lunch and its been great. Forgot to say damm that red devil looks amazing.

  • @ricbattaglia6976
    @ricbattaglia6976 9 місяців тому

    For render (Twinmotion or D5) AMD is good (bot the best but good ir very giod)? Thanks

  • @VVilkacy
    @VVilkacy 9 місяців тому +1

    I bought XTX, but only because I use Linux, so I had no other choice.

  • @tommmmyism
    @tommmmyism 7 місяців тому

    I have the 7900xtx for a 3months now. I have had no issues what's so ever. I would recommend getting a high end Power supply 850 -1000watt. Mine 850watt platinum. Don't be cheap when buying a PSU :D

  • @DailyCorvid
    @DailyCorvid 9 місяців тому

    Like the hoody and tshirt but the large size is kinda small for me, I am skinny thought it would be baggier. Still, I do like the design.

  • @senorconfused
    @senorconfused 9 місяців тому +2

    Didnt AMD leave the high end GPU market now? There will be no competition :(

  • @desmondakatsuki7790
    @desmondakatsuki7790 7 місяців тому

    Which GPU (7900XTX / RTX 4090) should I get, if I want to scale old Videos to FHD with an AI Programm?

  • @LexXxusTVLive
    @LexXxusTVLive 5 місяців тому +1

    I have a MSI RTX-4090 Suprim X, MSI RTX 3070, & a few AMD cards.
    I also used to purchase AMD until I got sick of the drivers.
    After I switched over to Nvidia, all my GPU stress went away.
    I'll never do AMD anything again.
    Intel & Nvidia all the way baby!

  • @JohnGaylerPhoto
    @JohnGaylerPhoto 9 місяців тому +1

    Please can you report the time taken by Lightroom Classic Denoise for a 45MP or 61MP image on the 7900XTX? Thanks for this video!
    I think a Denoise shootout video would be useful for creators who use LR + PS but don't do video and are wondering what GPU they need.
    I measure the 4090 FE to be 5.7 seconds. Denoise is the most GPU intensive operation in LRC, and the difference between 5s and 20s can make it an interactive option vs an interruption.

    • @eyewitness4560
      @eyewitness4560 9 місяців тому

      My results for the 24 mpx photos of my R6MK2 come in at ~7 seconds with the 7900XTX. To be frank my pc spends more time loading the GUI and files from the network than doing the denoise at this point.

    • @JohnGaylerPhoto
      @JohnGaylerPhoto 9 місяців тому

      @@eyewitness4560 Many thanks for reporting that. It rates around the same speed as the 4070 (not Ti version)

  • @williamlopez448
    @williamlopez448 8 місяців тому

    I bought a sapphire nitro+ vaporx 7900xtx. It's a beast. I have had issues here and there with drivers. I'm running a 7950x3d on a b650 e-f motherboard. In general I'd recommend it, but driver updates are a must. At one point windows released an update and without the amd update the computer would hard crash within a couple of minutes. AMD's continued updates are a must. If you don't mind tinkering and don't really care about Ray tracing that much, the 7900xtx is ideal.

  • @MichaelBrownPlus
    @MichaelBrownPlus 7 місяців тому

    I have a 4070 I use for Auto Fusion CAD I feel it’s better in those areas but I just built a new system for my son using the AMD NITRO 7900XTX on a Asus ROG E670 using an AMD 7950X3D CPU. That thing is a beast! Benchmarks crush my 4070 and it rips games like nothing I’ve ever seen. I’m shocked how far they have come. Both are amazing but for the price look at the AMD NITRO 7900XTX is overclocked more (crashed on a 850 PSU now solid on a 1000 watt PSU), but with his new build it’s never crashed once running at 5.3ghz CPU and 6000mhz RAM. I can’t get over how well the AMD software has made the hardware better. Using AI for over clocking simply amazing.

  • @Trampus10-4
    @Trampus10-4 7 місяців тому +1

    Not only is AMD hitting this side of GPU usage. But more software is being developed and creating utilizing more of amd hardware just like Nvidia has had for some time, being the commercial leader. For now.

  • @JamesLewis
    @JamesLewis 9 місяців тому +2

    Consider this... On Linux, because of the drivers, recent benchmarks show that on Linux Nvidia is about 10% slower than Windows... but AMD has been reported as 17% faster (both averaged over 10+ games)... so, it could be that if you're using these cards on Linux, the AMD might get a 27% boost over the benchmarks made on Windows... !!!!

    • @Serandi1987
      @Serandi1987 8 місяців тому

      😮!!!👍🏻

    • @Guishan_Lingyou
      @Guishan_Lingyou 6 місяців тому +1

      This is an interesting suggestion. I use linux, which makes me want to get an AMD. But, I want to start doing some 3D stuff on Blender, which makes me want to get Nvidia.

  • @daichiyakushigi9288
    @daichiyakushigi9288 9 місяців тому +2

    Heyya would like to ask did you test these benchmarks especially the blender benchmark with AMD's ROCM installed? It translates cuda core into AMD's acceleration cores which really helps.

  • @CousinSteve
    @CousinSteve 7 місяців тому

    My reddevil 7900xtx peaks at 540 watts and the continuous draw under full load is around 450

  • @undefwun2135
    @undefwun2135 8 місяців тому

    Missed this video, but funny enough about an hour ago I was actually looking into this (which is why YT pushed this video to me). The articles were 3-4 months old. while XTX did good in davinci, everything else it feel behind the 4080. Seeing these numbers is interesting just a few months later, must be the latest drivers.
    I was looking because I am about to really get into blender and thought for the price I could actually justify having 2 XTXs instead of 1 4090, but as you showed, its pretty grim.
    In my case the XTX will get stripped and water cooled, which kind of limits me to the TUF or Red Devil in terms of available water blocks, so a single 4090 is cheaper since I only have to buy 1 water block and less fittings.

  • @astro-canuck
    @astro-canuck 9 місяців тому +1

    Based on price alone, would you get better bang for the buck by purchasing 2 (two) 7900xtx and enabling mgpu? The cost of two regular 7900xtx is virtually equivalent to a single upper tier 4090? Thoughts? Are you able to try that experiment?

    • @theTechNotice
      @theTechNotice  9 місяців тому

      Interesting point! :)

    • @astro-canuck
      @astro-canuck 9 місяців тому

      @@theTechNotice - you would need an x670e mb due to the need for pci-e lanes. Or a workstation such as the sage series

    • @CallOfCranK
      @CallOfCranK 7 місяців тому

      @@astro-canuck Hi, i would like to know if the vram would be doubled if you do this in blender, since the 4090 has no nvlink for some reason?

    • @astro-canuck
      @astro-canuck 7 місяців тому

      @@CallOfCranK - that is the crux of my question. Would enabling mgpu with two lower tier graphics cards be as efficient as a single 4090 in applications that utilize vram, or shader cores, etc. efficiently.

  • @NightSprinter
    @NightSprinter 3 місяці тому

    That Zotac's design is peak Y2k aesthetic.

  • @sirgardensalot
    @sirgardensalot 9 місяців тому

    Which card would have the best results for Ark survival ascended because the game is very demanding

  • @tomquimby8669
    @tomquimby8669 9 місяців тому

    Why is it that graphics card reviewers don't test the actual manufacturer provided specifications? Do these cards actually provide output to 4 monitors up to the ports specified resolution and refresh rate. can the full amount of VRAM be addressed and what is the maximum power draw?

    • @theTechNotice
      @theTechNotice  9 місяців тому

      Redshift benchmark maxes out the VRAM and I did mention the power draw I thought? 🤔

    • @tomquimby8669
      @tomquimby8669 9 місяців тому

      now all you need to do is connect 4 monitors and max out the resolution to the port specification and you will have verified that the card works as specified by the manufacturer. Then you might well be the only reviewer to actually test the cards fully. Love the channel by the way nice to get another tester not fixated on games. @@theTechNotice

  • @XX-sz6qh
    @XX-sz6qh 7 місяців тому +1

    To people here,
    If you go nvidia and you have the money 4090, if you want value 7900xtx.
    I have both, an all white 4090 pc, and a all black asus 7900xtx build.
    The 4080 is over priced, but i can see if you pref it its okay and trades blows with the 7900xtx.
    4070ti is a scam, the vram will be an issue as time goes on, though its as good as a 3090ti.
    The 4090 is def my perferred, but i can play my 7900xtx build and im more than happy at 4k.
    We are in a generation that the price to performance is not value oriented anymore. Remember the jump from 9series to the 10? It lasted 3 years longer than it needed to be, and they dont want that again.

  • @romankozlovskiy7899
    @romankozlovskiy7899 9 місяців тому +1

    Xtx has 2018 ray tracing performance, much slower gddr6 memory totally worth twice the cost on a 4090 trust me

  • @hassanzaki64
    @hassanzaki64 9 місяців тому

    How about core15 12400f and rx6600xt

  • @smartbikers4550
    @smartbikers4550 9 місяців тому +1

    Wow......comare 4070/4070ti/4080 vs 7800/7700xt.... Video editing and ed performance

  • @aliawesome12fab
    @aliawesome12fab 9 місяців тому +1

    I think for 3D work, you can get a 3090 for the same price as 7900xtx

  • @Tmoua
    @Tmoua 6 місяців тому +1

    Used both blindly and 4090 is the superior card however for real price difference the nvidia isnt $500.00 better so being almost $700.00 more is absurd.

  • @CaptainMcShotgun41
    @CaptainMcShotgun41 18 днів тому

    I bought a 7900XTX and I haven't looked back.

  • @alfalfachomusuke8258
    @alfalfachomusuke8258 9 місяців тому +2

    I saw alot of reviewers recommending to amd gpu but using nvidia gpu in their main pc and daily driver

  • @apotato5563
    @apotato5563 9 місяців тому

    I believe it says 5N because nvidia uses a 5nm+ lithography which is a tuned 5nm

  • @d0sk3y
    @d0sk3y 7 місяців тому +1

    Next time, try the 7900XTX Nitro :) It's got a higher TDP and the build quality is far superior.

    • @MichaelBrownPlus
      @MichaelBrownPlus 7 місяців тому

      100% just got the NITRO is a very well built card in fact probably the best looking best built card out there. No joke. And I have a founders edition 4070 in my workstation my sons NITRO 7900XTX blows it away.

  • @grtitann7425
    @grtitann7425 6 місяців тому

    Don't let the Ngreedia fans that run Toms Hardware see this, they will have a heart attack if someone dares saying anything negative about their favorite brand Ngreedia 😂
    Great video.