Piers Morgan Loses His Cool During Chivalry Debate | Good Morning Britain
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Is 'ladies first' an outdated phrase? Joining Good Morning Britain to debate this is Eleanor Mills and Lizzy Cundy, but as things start to get a little heated, it seems that Piers has had enough.
Broadcast on 20/12/2017
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I’m a 25 year old woman and i absolutely love a good gentleman! I love when my boyfriend or any other gentleman opens doors for me, lets me enter the elevator first, call me a lady, etc. I mean what the hell, you gotta be mental to hate that🤷🏼♀️
you women are driving us women crazy... my wife and daughet do... i lost 3/ 4 of my hair, and have no idea what to talk to them...
Her trouble is that no one has ever opened her door
Amen
😂😂😂😂
Bang on. She hates seeing other women get that treatment so she wants to stop it altogether.
In other words "If I can't have it, noone can" lol
A can of spam from World War 1 have more chances to be opened more than her...
Nailed it
only a woman whose self esteem is damaged will think that a men opening a door or paying for a bill at a restaurant is inappropriate in any way.
I would agree with this and I'm a woman, but i also agree that some men do patronise women in ways that are discussed here b
@@melinmove It's not a matter about patronising or courtesy, it is a matter of respect - women respecting men and men respecting women. I recently opened the doors for two women (on different occasions) and received two different responses. The first smiled and said thank you. The second looked at me quite coldly and said, 'I can open the door myself!' I felt like closing the door immediately and saying go ahead, however courtesy prevailed and I did and said nothing untoward.
@@ianraper4304 Both can be and are true, men can be patronising, i was with a guy for years who treated me as if i was a little girl. If you asked him why he did it he would say he was just trying to protect me, but since i got with him so young it actually stunted my growth as a person and i never learnt things for myself.
Lack of respect can also exist, it's not one or the other, both patronising behaviour and lack of respect between men and women can also be true. I personally don't have an issue with men or women opening the door for me, and i even open the door for men as well, because i don't believe men should only do this and women should only do that mentality.
@@ianraper4304i think 🤔 there should be more gentlemen like you in the world 🌎
People should be chivalrous to EACH OTHER!! I hold doors open for my best girl, elderly people, my boyfriend, unknown men and women. Because it is just rude to slap a door behind you into someone else's face.
When it comes to automatically assuming that the man that you have a meal with, pays for it, is another thing. If I earn a better wages then the guy I go out with and he's a good friend of mine, why should HE pay??
In romantic situations I always discuss and not assume. Do you want to split the bill?
When I notice a guy is really uncomfortable with that and he insists on paying: that's a totally different story.
But you have to go back in time a little further. Where do you think that custom came from? Why did men start paying for women they took out and what was their ultimate goal?
Right. THINK!
My daughter is 15 years old and whenever the little 11 year boy we live near. Sees her with more than one bag. He runs over to help her with the bags and carries them to the front door for. He is so polite and has lovely manners.
I think women who don’t get that attention resent other women who do. So ultimately, they start to build unnecessary campaigns against it.
Marry that boy!!!!
But that is just common helpfulness!! You are mixing up being polite and helpful with chivalry.
@@smoly37 chivalry is “polite, kind and unselfish behaviour, aespecially from men towards women.” Maybe you should learn what it actually means
@keepingitnatural7601 Take it from someone who was once an eleven-year-old boy himself - the kid next door DEFINITELY fancies your daughter 😂
@@theb1gfudge 😂😂😂😂😂
Whe world has gone mad.
As a millennial woman, being called a lady and nice gentlemanly gestures are extremely refreshing. Lady on the left side is being bonkers.
right side*
@@user-eo4xk6jq4n I’m always open to differing sides and conversation. Not just trying to sink a one-liner to push my view. I welcome the opposition
@@Dellzzz bro… just admit u mixed up the sides it’s fine…
I’m 62 and I grew up in the era where opening a door for a woman, older gentleman even was polite. We were taught to give our seats to pregnant woman or older people, say please and thank you, send thank you notes and be polite. The world is deteriorating at a rapid pace, the least we can do is keep manners.
As a young lady in her 20s I APPRECIATE chivalry. I don’t know what this lady is talking about 🙇🏾♀
from a mans perspective, in the age of equality there is no "ladies first". i dont recall a time when its ever even been depicted that a woman puts her coat in the puddle for the man to walk through, a woman pulls out a mans chair for him to sit, a woman holds a door open as an act of chivalry for a man........etc etc.......i dont mind treating others as they treat me, but after just a few seconds of this video i get the impression that whilst this woman calls the above examples "good manners", i do not get the impression that her manners would be "good" enough to return the favour, if they were id expect her to mention it and because she didnt i can only assume that her manners are not up to the same standard that she expects from others, specifically men. its all well and good "teaching your two teenage daughters" to have manners, but its not depicted as manners when a man holds a door, puts his coat down, pulls chair out for woman etc.........thats depicted as chivalry. i also note how, while she claims to be teaching her daughters to have good manners, she makes no mention of whether or not those taught "good manners" include pulling a chair out for someone (specifically a man) to sit down
and thats why it reeks of hypocrisy, and thats equality for you - they want to keep the bits they like but disgard the bits they dont and still call it equality, ie, they want to be MORE equal than men
of course this is not true of all woman and in fact only true of a few, but these few seem to somehow have the platform available to spew their toxic views, just like the woman in this video who seems to be making up as she goes along and then tripping over her own hypocrisy
Man or woman them or they I’ll hold that door
She doesn't look particular attractive nor pleasant. My guess is people don't hold doors open for her and that upsets her so much, she spins this narrative as a coping mechanism.
@@Dennis19901 def she mad cause she shrek with lipstick
@@Supreme_creme_jizzler😂 I did the same!
This world is coming to an end if something like this is considered bad…
Love a chivalrous man! I graciously say thank you for their kindness when a door is held for me. I hold the door for others as well where appropriate. Men, keep being chivalrous - the right woman will appreciate you!
Kindness is kindness. It's not my job to try to understand what motivates it. Just enjoy it.
No one's ever paid for this gal's meal even once lmaoo
Being nice is a crime nowadays, "How dare you treat me like a baby?". Partners of people like these will have a miserable time.
Exercising An Power Play
We all know women are not babies, they are little girls in adult bodies.
I don't think 🤔 women like her deserves a nice man
Being nice is creepy you mean....
I open doors for everyone.. Men and women... It's just manners. People are ridiculous now.. This person especially
are you a man? if you are then you should rightfully be opening those doors for whoever approaches, its called good manners
are you a woman? you are wasting your time, you dont need to do that
Patronising!!? Really? This woman has an ego problem!? I hold the door for both men, women and children, so am I being patronising to these people?
well, according to this womans logic you only have to do that if you are a man and then its just good manners
Nice nickname, nice man
I feel offended if a guy doesn't offer to walk me to the nearest subway, pay for a coffee, or perhaps a full meal. What kinds of boys are we raising if they're afraid to act politely?
i am that younger generation and I WOULD LOVE A MAN WITH HIGH LEVEL OF CHIVALRY THANK YOU
"damsals in distress"
Okay so if you get mugged at 1 am then you can get your own purse back" since you want to be seen as equal and don't want to be rescued.
Wait for war to break out and soldiers are needed. She'll be in the kitchen making sandwiches and acting all delicate quicker than you can open the door for her.
she still expects good manners from a man though so that doesnt work. she wants to be more equal than any man
Respect and manners from a man is priceless
her views are based of the women in her office like she had mentioned in the beginning of the video. Its terrible how she can put ALL YOUNG WOMEN in the same category while she only did a poll with like 10-20 people that work WITH her
I find jobless people who are unhappy in their lives choose to find reasons to spread misery where unnecessary. If what she is saying is true, which I doubt, that I am afraid such women will die alone cause no man wants such women in their lives
equality, I would love it if a women paid for dinner, havent in my 44 years found one yet.
What kind of woman? And some women don't want men.
@@Adrian-lo4bxfind a manly feminist like her and they will 😂
How crazy is this ?
I was born in '06 so I am considered the 'younger generation'. If a man held a door open for me or called me lovely I wouldn't EVER be offended in fact I would feel flattered that someone took time out their life to do that for me. This woman is INSANE! 😭
Stupidity has limits. Even if a young lady does not want to be called young lady, it can NEVER be considered offensive. If they do, they are just stupid for feeling offended about someone treating them with respect. This world is fkd up :D
When menopause has set in permanently 😂
Only in the 21st century would holding a door open for someone be considered offensive 😂
My mate was at University in Victoria. He is gentleman taught by his parents. He was going into the cafeteria. The young lady came towards the door and he opened the door for her and she went nuts. Saying she's able to do it herself. He was in shock but his comeback was magic. He said I thought you were a bloke. Fireworks. By the way that was in the 1990s.
I'm an almost 70yo female who has always held doors open for others, regardless of sex. It's common courtesy.
Who cares what she thinks. 🤷♂️
I was born in the 80s, I was taught since I was a little boy to be polite and courteous, open doors, give way, give up seats, and shield girls from traffic by walking on the outer part of the pedestrian walkway, and I am from Malaysia, an ex-British colony.
And now I am disgusted when I now learned that some UK/US women will feel offended if I ever do that for them with sincerity.
Seriously, I want nothing except a simple "thank you" would suffice.
Please keep doing it! I beg of you. Don't be put off by such opinions.
All I hear is, "Guys don't hold the door open for me as much as my prettier friends. So *no more holding doors for women* from now on!"
Fight for equal opportunity..not equal outcome..
SHE LITERALLY CALLED THE WOMAN IN THE RED DRESS A LADY 5:44
funny i was reading the comments while listening and i heard that the second before i saw your comment, thinking the same ;) (sorry if that's patronizing...)
She is against it because maybe no one compliments her
Exactly
I absolutely think you're right
Why would they, she's atrocious
There would be no man who would want to be condescending to her😂....the door got slammed on that face😂
As a Chinese Male, I speak for all of us - and we all agree, that this lady should not be allowed to roam and interact with the general public unsupervised and unmedicated. Xie Xie.
Hilarious!
She obviously has a hang up about herself.
Solution: Don't open doors, don't pay for dinner, don't call her lovely, call her something else. She can take it.
i bet some guy opened the door for her or let her go through first she said "How dare you"
How many woman hold the door open for a man and let him go through first? I usually hold the door open for anyone behind me regardless of gender. It is polite, why does politeness only have to go one way?
because of equality
100% !!
Oh my goodness!!! How misogynistic!!!!!!!! :)
I've worked with literally thousands of kids of all ages, hundreds, maybe thousands were girls. We've sometimes practiced the idea of "women first" and boys being "chivalrous" and never has anyone ever gotten their panties in a twist because of it. Quite the contrary, actually, girls always seem to appreciate it!
This woman's delusional or things are very different wherever she is. I feel bad for her children.
I wonder if she would think the same if, suddenly, the restaurant bill comes.
people like this woman also goes, "Why are men not gentlemen anymore?!" lmfao
I love gentlemen. We need to go back to the old days where men were men and ladies were real ladies. This woman is ridiculous
always the word power is trotted out
This lady is crazy. I love when any person has manners
a woman just told a man how a man "truly" thinks about women...
she is also speaking for multiple people that she has never even met with such confidence............theres several things that wind me up about this womans "personality", first of all she seems the type to make it up as she goes along and secondly, she seems so sure of herself for no reason other than its her saying the things she is saying
Piers i understand your frustration
Anyone else almost poked their own eyes out because of that blonde *ladys* argument?..
It's called being considerate. That's all.
Piers you’re the man!
This is stupid. I’m a 50 year old male. I offer to hold the door for men, women, ugly, attractive, old and young alike. 🤦♂️🤷♂️
Overthinking gone mad🤦
As a 76 yr old man I have always opened a door, let them go first, if I see her I will barge my way in front of close the door in her face
Piers and Suzzana 100% correct, and the lady in the red dress. What is the world is coming to. I still say ladies first, chivalry isn't dead at all
best debate 😊
Manners maketh man is how I was raised. What this woman proposes is for men to completely change several millennia of traditions because what - two or three women in her office don't appreciate chivalry? She defeated her own argument several times over with words alone, yet she cannot see it and stays on this half-baked point. Sad, really.
I'm a guy, and i hold doors open for women AND men 😎
But that's because i work in a hotel as a doorman 🤣
Just googled a pic of husband, it’s what I thought.
I’m going and she doesn’t speak for me. Save me! I’m a princess! Handle me as such
The problem with the world is people who take offence on other peoples behalf. If women want equality and they take offence to something, maybe they should start to empower themselves and say something rather than dictate how every woman and man behave.
Well said.
So: it would be ok for a women to slam the door behind her, without looking if maybe somebody behind me wants to go through that door?
In general, I hold the door for everybody. Man or woman, old or young or a child, it doesn't matter.
i know! Really!
It's about courtly graces
Not once when i held a door or gave up a seat for a female was i expecting anything in return thats completely preposterous and this lady is crazy
Show me a single baby boomer who agrees with her! Even for all the women's rights and NOW in the US, there was a certain expectation that was set.
If the saying was ''ladies last'', they would be complaining about that too. Just be honest and admit that you like complaining.
I opened the door for you. Now then, what time we having dinner tonight? I'm paying.... I think you know why.
This was hilarious to watch, honestly she is delusional. She is taking things too personally and making a whole big thing out of it. Nobody agrees with her. And even if she doesnt like being called a lady and being treated respectfully, she shouldn't tell everyone that it's a power play. What a joke. I'd say appreciate nice gestures, nice manners and respectful people, there aren't that many left.
She also has a right to tell a man she's on a date with that she prefers a more equal relationship. That doesn't automatically mean everyone feels that way.
Shes just mad nobody opens the door for her
I watched it again. And I keep saying: they mix up being polite with being chivalrous. They bring their children in the discussion and how they should be brought up....got nothing to do with the subject!! And Pierce refuses to answer the question asked THREE times: would you say the same if the group of visagists were men?"Thank you, lovely gentleman??" I don't think so. He ducks that question though.
She would be the first trying to push her way on the life boat.
This kind of thinking will eventually create a world where men and women will be discouraged to interact. I feel for he future of kids.
Who's a man, and who's a woman, though?
@@jennifergersch9126 Lol. Well there you go!
That LADY is not just voicing what younger today feel about chivalry, she is ALSO talking about why those generation of women are single, lonely and will ride the carousel all their life.
Oh God.🤔
It’s opening a bloody door !! How stupid !!!
Is this REALLY an issue? Call me old fashioned on this one,but I pretty much ALWAYS hold a door open for...both sexes. I have said(not often)''ladies first'' and have gotten a big smile or a thank you or a laugh. I got a ''ladies first'' from a woman I helped and we both laughed and I said ''always.'' I have a much bigger problem with bike riders on our sidewalks. It's against the law here. Manners NEVER go out of style. Hold the doors open for EVERYONE. Say ''excuse me'' when you walk in front of someone. This basic courtesy has all but vanished around here.
She’s a bird who hasn’t had much male attention in her life and is really pissed off. 2 daughters mentioned straight away, I bet his a right walley.
I bet the women on Titanic were grateful
Her issue is that she doesn't get that chivalry because....(draw your own conclusion) so is offended by women who get it and deserve it.
When she said knight in shining Armour is gone, so when she being attacked by a mugger or a rapist, and the guy across the street sees it, she wouldn't want him to come to her aid, or in a burning building she doesn't want a fire fighter to run in and lift her out, just leave her to her self measures 😂 yes she'd be screaming for help at the top of her voice.
I thought of that, too.
So this lady basically says she wants someone who treats her badly and totally ignores her. Just because if you treat her good she gets offended. Fine, since you you dont want to be offended by treating you well, pay the whole bill in the reastaurant and come pick me up with your own car. I want also for proposal one big diamond ring.
The way good men treat women in a loving way, and the way women want to be treated is a genetic thing that has been around for thousand of years. Wokes can not change this.
What a load of bull the woman is talking about 💯
I agree with the woman. You rarely your male friend who's like a Brother to you ever offer to pay or open doors. There IS expectation behind it (not always but usually). Ray William Johnson also agrees with me on this one. Women shouldn't expect to be treated like delicate precious things if they want to be free. Treating women as delicate is where all the oppression comes from (dont go outside, cover yourself up, etc etc)
imagine if shes in the titanic and they give priority to women and children to get on lifeboats first and she argues about that and get left behind
Seems like she didn't have a man to open doors for her..😮
And women like her (not lizzie) are the reason why men are too scared to even look in a womans direction anymore. Im a younger woman and love men that have proper manners and use old fashioned chivalry.....but men wouldnt know that without having to ask first which is ridiculous
Yes!!!! I completely agree. A real shame!
come on! women and men are different, and it's about time we stopped been afraid to accept and celebrate our differences, instead of confusing our perception of it
Thank god for the comments, faith restored. Thanks all!
It's usually the ones who get nothing that want to ruin it for everybody else
"Thank you ladies" is that...?
"Yes"
We might as well say, "thank you, you group of homo sapiens. I'm sorry to assume, do you identify as a homo sapien?"
Power 😂
U ain’t having my fucking seat 😂
She's off her head 😅
As Bill Burr said,"There's no feminists in a house fire. "
Lol, and here I am critiqued by my wife that I should open the door for her and be more like a gentleman. It seems like I did everything correct so far!
Dave Chapell said Chivalry is dead women killed it
Learn from Karate say bow and say OSU
My selves?
HMMM hehehehehe
I think if someone broke into her house at night she should say to her husband "I've got this, you stay in bed"
Yikes.
I just want to be nice, i open doors for everyone.
Why would it be a statement
Plz give me a multiverse machine.
I'll like to teleport to a world which is not fucked up as now
She’s crazy. We do not find it offensive. ☹️