I love how all of heaven was on the edge of their seats when she showed her obedience to God the Father in her Magnificat. Like Eve, she was conceived without sin, but unlike Eve, she accepted God's will. She had a choice, and her yes stomped out Eve's no. So beautiful is our Blessed Mother!
Sitting in church this morning on the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception of Mary 2024 with many questions still rolling around in my head. I have to admit this one is hard to hold in my head, but this video gives me new confidence every time I watch it! Thank you so much. You are a blessing!
Don't Bite! The immaculate conception dogma is missing from the earliest patristic sources. Mary didn’t even enter into the picture of theological disputes of the church fathers until the upsurge of Christological heresies and the impulse of asceticism and monasticism in church history. Catholic scholar, Ludwig Ott, admits: “Neither Greek nor Latin Fathers explicitly teach the Immaculate Conception of Mary” (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, Tan Publishers, 1960, p. 201) The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967, 7:378-81) states that: “…the Immaculate Conception is not taught explicitly in Scripture … the earliest church Fathers regarded Mary as holy but not as absolutely sinless … It is impossible to give a precise date when this belief was held as a matter of Faith, but by the 8th or 9th century, it seems to have been generally admitted…” Even after then, controversies over this dogma raged on for a whole 1000 years with the Dominicans fighting the Franciscans over the issue. The so-called “infallible authority” of Rome was neutral on the issue. Even a 19th century Catholic bishop admitted: “The Church does not decide the controversy concerning the Conception of the Blessed Virgin, and several other disputed points, because she sees nothing clear and certain concerning them either in the written or unwritten Word, and therefore leaves her children to form their own opinions concerning them” (Cited in George Salmon, The Infallibility of the Church, 182) This proves that this dogma was a very late development and had just been around only about 150 years. It can’t be supported either with the Bible or traditions.
This is excellent ! The only thing (maybe I missed it?) is that also Mary was the Nee Eve and triumphed where Eve fell. There is no way Mary was going to be born in a lesser state than Eve was.
@@Jontech777you’re trying to limit God to fit within your own desires and understanding. Protestants lack humility, and it blinds them to the depth and beauty of Biblical truth.
The immaculate conception dogma is missing from the earliest patristic sources. Mary didn’t even enter into the picture of theological disputes of the church fathers until the upsurge of Christological heresies and the impulse of asceticism and monasticism in church history. Catholic scholar, Ludwig Ott, admits: “Neither Greek nor Latin Fathers explicitly teach the Immaculate Conception of Mary” (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, Tan Publishers, 1960, p. 201) The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967, 7:378-81) states that: “…the Immaculate Conception is not taught explicitly in Scripture … the earliest church Fathers regarded Mary as holy but not as absolutely sinless … It is impossible to give a precise date when this belief was held as a matter of Faith, but by the 8th or 9th century, it seems to have been generally admitted…” Even after then, controversies over this dogma raged on for a whole 1000 years with the Dominicans fighting the Franciscans over the issue. The so-called “infallible authority” of Rome was neutral on the issue. Even a 19th century Catholic bishop admitted: “The Church does not decide the controversy concerning the Conception of the Blessed Virgin, and several other disputed points, because she sees nothing clear and certain concerning them either in the written or unwritten Word, and therefore leaves her children to form their own opinions concerning them” (Cited in George Salmon, The Infallibility of the Church, 182) This proves that this dogma was a very late development and had just been around only about 150 years. It can’t be supported either with the Bible or traditions.
Anyone who believes this man does not know scripture. We are encouraged to be like the Bereans and to test whatever we are being taught, whether it aligns with scripture or not. Most of this man's teachings do not align with scripture at all but catholicism.
The immaculate conception dogma is missing from the earliest patristic sources. Mary didn’t even enter into the picture of theological disputes of the church fathers until the upsurge of Christological heresies and the impulse of asceticism and monasticism in church history. Catholic scholar, Ludwig Ott, admits: “Neither Greek nor Latin Fathers explicitly teach the Immaculate Conception of Mary” (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, Tan Publishers, 1960, p. 201) The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967, 7:378-81) states that: “…the Immaculate Conception is not taught explicitly in Scripture … the earliest church Fathers regarded Mary as holy but not as absolutely sinless … It is impossible to give a precise date when this belief was held as a matter of Faith, but by the 8th or 9th century, it seems to have been generally admitted…” Even after then, controversies over this dogma raged on for a whole 1000 years with the Dominicans fighting the Franciscans over the issue. The so-called “infallible authority” of Rome was neutral on the issue. Even a 19th century Catholic bishop admitted: “The Church does not decide the controversy concerning the Conception of the Blessed Virgin, and several other disputed points, because she sees nothing clear and certain concerning them either in the written or unwritten Word, and therefore leaves her children to form their own opinions concerning them” (Cited in George Salmon, The Infallibility of the Church, 182) This proves that this dogma was a very late development and had just been around only about 150 years. It can’t be supported either with the Bible or traditions.
Holy God, Strong God, Immortal God and God of Power - Author of the beautiful story we are witnessing. It comes full circle as a good good story should do.
The Church is right to consider Joseph as one of the greatest saints. He knew he would not be able to touch Mary (2Sam 6 Uzza was struck dead for touching the Ark of the Covenant) because he was not a high priest; and yet had to show to the world that he was Mary's real husband and Jesus' real father. He really sacrificed as much as Mary.
Matthew, you did a very good job here. And you’re making good content that’s accurate and enlightening. I like your explanation of complete and total Enmity between the woman and the serpent.
Pray That I Will Keep The Ten Commandments Read The Bible Poor Souls In Purgatory Prayer In Schools That I Will Repent Wholeheartedly Of My Wrongdoings Forgiveness Of Enemies Flee Evildoers That My Property Belongings Will Be Blessed That I Will Live Peacefully With My Neighbors
We don’t make doctrine from typology. The woman in the first and third examples is more consistent with the church. As for the annunciation, it is one thing to call her blessed and another to go way out and make assumptions that just are not there.
@@wms72 As a rational being I must interpret. But this opinion is not mine but that of many learned authorities. The Bible is God’s word to each of us and is meant to be understood by all.
Annunciation . The Angel speaking The visitation. Elizabeth speaking" Blessed are You Amongst Women" The Angel Gabriel says " Full of Grace". Those are words from heaven . FULL.
I've been researching the immaculate conception too, and not only does it say I'm Luke that Mary is blessed, but in the KJV it also says "highly favored". When I looked up the Greek translation, I was shocked to find that it means full of grace. Check out the greek in the Strong's Concordance. I know what your saying about Genesis and Revelation verses representing the church. That's what I was taught too. But both places in the Bible say woman. Mary is a woman, the church is not. And Mary fits in perfectly with what both places in the Bible are talking about.
Thank you my catholic brother for a very very sublime transcendent profound video presentation on Mother Mary for as you’ve presented it but I must mentioned this that people who read scriptures doesn’t have the slightest understanding or belief that evils can use scriptures to deceive them and yet people are so unlearned of scriptures that they say that it’s impossible for it’s Gods word, but because they disregard of what I’ve said that evils can use scriptures to deceive those who read scriptures it’s because they can’t or won’t except that of what I’ve said is ACTUALLY IN THE SCRIPTURES.Excellent well informative true presentation yeah Amen Amen Amen 🙏 🐑🕊️✨🔥
In the KJV in Luke it says "highly favored". If you look up the greek is means full of grace. Just like the catholics have been saying. I was shocked. Check it out in the Strong's Concordance.
Also In reference to the earlier statement that there is no verse in the Bible that says God is three and one “For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.” I John 5:7
Praise be Jesus Christ. Now and Forever. Matthew thank God for your ministry and abiding in God’s Will. Along with Jesus our Lord and Savior, Blessed Virgin Mary who were born sinless. Am I correct in saying the “man” and “woman” of the Garden of Eden, Samson and St. John the Baptist are the 4 others in sacred scripture born sinless? All Glory be to God.
No one harbors hatred towards Mary the mother of Christ. What Christians hate are the lies of the apostate "church" of rome. I mean what they have done to her AND ALL THE LOFTY HEAVENLY NAMES they have come up with, out of out of thin air is blasphemous. You look at all the glories, titles, doctrines and dogmas pertaining to Mary you practically have a religion in and of itself. There's not nearly enough information in Scripture regarding Mary to come up with all of that. This is Mariology out of control. Kind of like a snowball rolling down a snowy hill, it keeps getting bigger and bigger as time goes by. There seems to be no end to the exalting of Mary. Though there's catholic apologists that will tell us all those things of Mary have been taught for 2000 years.
@@wesleysimelane3423uh… one of the oldest Christian prayers recorded well is from the early church and it’s a prayer asking Mary for intercession… the ecumenical councils say Mary didn’t sin, and that’s before Protestants ever were here…
@@wesleysimelane3423there is enough, if the tradition of the church Christ gave authority to can find it. If Jesus is God in the flesh, Mary is the ark of the covenant. If Jesus is God in the flesh, Mary is the mother of God. If Jesus is God in the flesh, Mary is a heavenly mother. If Jesus gave his mother to his beloved disciple she is our mother also. In revelation the women is clothed with the sun and has. Crown of stars and a moon at her feet. She is pregnant. Who is this women? Also all these things of Mary draw people towards Christ. A bad Mariology makes a bad interpretation of Christ. We always ask Mary to pray for us to be closer with her son who is greater then her Jesus
@@wesleysimelane3423 You're right, some Catholics have deified Mary, but haven't all protestants deified the Bible? Don't Protestant denominations originate from someone's interpretation of scripture? Wasn't the Catholic Church founded by Jesus 400 years before the Bible, and 1500 years before the printing press? Jesus founded a Church. Did He write any scripture? Didn't He give authority to the apostles to teach and define doctrine? That authority has been passed down directly through the laying on of hands. Every Catholic priest can trace his ordination directly to the apostles. Any fool can misuse the Bible to make it say what he wants, so doesn't the Bible need a teacher who was an eye witness of Jesus or His apostles? The Church who witnessed Jesus, who preserved the history of his apostles is the reliable teacher of doctrine, the Holy Catholic Church.
This is excellent ! The only thing (maybe I missed it?) is that also Mary was the Nee Eve and triumphed where Eve fell. There is no way Mary was going to be born in a lesser state than Eve was.
Hi there! I'm a Catholic, but can anybody enlighten me on this? If the curse given to to Eve is "I will intensify your toil in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children." Then why Mary in revelation was described as "She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth". Does it mean that Mary inherited the curse given to Eve?
Thank you for asking this question! I have the same question and also wonder if Jesus’ sinless conception needed Mary to be without sin then wouldn’t Mary’s mother and father need to be sinless too? The argument doesn’t make sense. Rather doesn’t Mary being “full of grace” mean there was sin present to begin with that needed God’s grace? Could it be the Holy Spirit overshadowing Mary applies the future atonement of Jesus to her in order to prepare her to conceive him?
@@jenniferthoraldson3176 To your second point....you almost got it !!! Adam and Eve were both created in the image and likeness of God...sinless....in perfect relationship with God...full of grace. But they lost that grace when they fell. Mary, being the second Eve was also created (at conception) full of grace. A special grace given her by God. We are saved AFTER we have sinned and fallen. Mary was saved PRIOR to falling therefore was preserved from falling. The merits of the cross were applied to Mary retroactively. This was fitting to equip her for her vocation. Hope that helps.
Rev. 12:2 - Some Protestants argue that, because the woman had birth pangs, she was a woman with sin. However, Revelation is apocalyptic literature unique to the 1st century. It contains varied symbolism and multiple meanings of the woman (Mary, the Church and Israel). The birth pangs describe both the birth of the Church and Mary’s offspring being formed in Christ. Mary had no birth pangs in delivering her only Son Jesus. Isaiah 66:7 - for example, we see Isaiah prophesying that before she (Mary) was in labor she gave birth; before her pain came upon her she was delivered of a son (Jesus). This is a Marian prophecy of the virgin birth of Jesus Christ. Gal 4:19 - Paul also describes his pain as birth pangs in forming the disciples in Christ. Birth pangs describe formation in Christ. Rom. 8:22 - also, Paul says the whole creation has been groaning in travail before the coming of Christ. We are all undergoing birth pangs because we are being reborn into Jesus Christ. Jer. 13:21 - Jeremiah describes the birth pangs of Israel, like a woman in travail. Birth pangs are usually used metaphorically in the Scriptures. Hos. 13:12-13 - Ephraim is also described as travailing in childbirth for his sins. Again, birth pangs are used metaphorically. Micah 4:9-10 - Micah also describes Jerusalem as being seized by birth pangs like a woman in travail. Rev. 12:13-16 - in these verses, we see that the devil still seeks to destroy the woman even after the Savior is born. This proves Mary is a danger to satan, even after the birth of Christ. This is because God has given her the power to intercede for us, and we should invoke her assistance in our spiritual lives.
@@joseffsantos3261 I'm not assuming anything. I believe what the Church teaches. The same Church that has the authority to interpret Scripture and compiled the Canon. Challenges that we must “prove” all Catholic doctrine from scripture shouldn’t worry us because we reject the unbiblical doctrine of sola scriptura. When Cardinal Newman preached on the Mary’s Assumption and Immaculate Conception he gave evidence for those doctrines but he also said “I am not proving these doctrines to you, my brethren; the evidence of them lies in the declaration of the Church. The Church is the oracle of religious truth, and dispenses what the apostles committed to her in every time and place.”
Mary became Holy when she agreed to receive the Lord Jesus as her Lord and saviour at his conception as man .. I became Holy when I received the Lord Jesus as my Lord and saviour Everyone who receives Jesus has been given the right to be Holy John 1:14.
Incorrect . She received God/Jesus before material conception of Jesus as man because He is was and always will be. She was born without sin because like the Ark she could not carry in her womb that what was perfect, good, holy ever. She would have died like Uzza or fallen like Eve.
@@markwelch9250 Do you know that as a Christian and a believer, the Holy Spirit dwells in you. You a sinner, but the HS dwells in you. Let that sink in and stop elevating another human to a level she was not meant for.
Idk why you needed to add a dramatic "dare to" in your sentence. They don't minimize her in the way you're thinking. They believe that Mary is a normal human who sinned like everyone else. That's what they're taught. The King James version of the Bible says "highly favored", not "full of grace". They would have to look up the greek in the Strong's Concordance to find out the greek means "full of grace". And then their definition of grace might be different than yours. Protestants also don't pray-talk to dead people. That idea is completely foreign to them. They put talking to dead people with trying to contact dead people as the same thing. Like summoning ghosts like a necromancer. So when they hear of catholics pray-talking, they think they are pray-worshipping to dead people. This is why they think catholics worship Mary. Catholics and Protestants have spent too much time hating each other, insulting one another, and not communicating to even know what each other believes and why. It makes the devil sooooo happy to see millions of people who love Jesus, hate each other. Both catholics and Protestants believe that Jesus died on the cross for their sins and strive to have a close relationship with Him. And yet both will point the finger at the other and say they are all going to hell. Where is the love that Jesus commands us to have for one another on BOTH sides? I know this doesn't pertain to everyone on both sides, but it sure does to the majority. Just look at all the comments on this video.
The immaculate conception dogma is missing from the earliest patristic sources. Mary didn’t even enter into the picture of theological disputes of the church fathers until the upsurge of Christological heresies and the impulse of asceticism and monasticism in church history. Catholic scholar, Ludwig Ott, admits: “Neither Greek nor Latin Fathers explicitly teach the Immaculate Conception of Mary” (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, Tan Publishers, 1960, p. 201) The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967, 7:378-81) states that: “…the Immaculate Conception is not taught explicitly in Scripture … the earliest church Fathers regarded Mary as holy but not as absolutely sinless … It is impossible to give a precise date when this belief was held as a matter of Faith, but by the 8th or 9th century, it seems to have been generally admitted…” Even after then, controversies over this dogma raged on for a whole 1000 years with the Dominicans fighting the Franciscans over the issue. The so-called “infallible authority” of Rome was neutral on the issue. Even a 19th century Catholic bishop admitted: “The Church does not decide the controversy concerning the Conception of the Blessed Virgin, and several other disputed points, because she sees nothing clear and certain concerning them either in the written or unwritten Word, and therefore leaves her children to form their own opinions concerning them” (Cited in George Salmon, The Infallibility of the Church, 182) This proves that this dogma was a very late development and had just been around only about 150 years. It can’t be supported either with the Bible or traditions.
@@wesleysimelane3423 Read the very next sentence in Ott's book: "Still, they teach it (Mary's Immaculate Conception) implicitly, in two fundamental notions: A) Mary's most perfect purity and holiness (Ott verifies this by long quotes from St. Ephrem and St. Augustine) B) The similarity and contrast between Mary and Eve (Ott quotes St. Ephrem, St Justin Martyr, St. Irenaeus, and Tertullian) Read the actual Fathers of the Church and not what some protestant heretic tells you the Church teaches
@@jennifertiemann6403How are the two analogous? Catholicism teaches that the denial of its Marian dogmas is an anathema. Do you know of any Christians who believe you’re damned for denying the observance of Christmas?
He doesn't worship anything in his room. Those are nick-nacs and pictures of what's important to him. You don't have nick-nacs or pictures hanging up in your house?
So you obviously haven’t read the Bible as much as you think you have. God told the Israelites to make statues, your literally so lost if you can’t tell the difference between art and idols
May God grant me clarity to unlearn all the anti-Catholic teachings that were pounded into my head as a child. Belief in the Immaculate Conception could also be traced back to the prophet Elijah. The Bible says that no one may enter the Kingdom who is sinful, and we know Elijah was taken up directly into heaven without suffering death, so it’s only right to imagine the Mother of God could also have some miraculous qualities that don’t pertain to logic or the rest of us.
@@tony1685one can’t not be Catholic and follow the truth, they are opposed to each other. Catholic Church sit he church jays founded and gave authority to 😊❤
At 17:29, you make the assertion that she did not fear Gabriel's greeting. With all due respect, in the private revelation of Maria Valtorta's 'The Poem of the Man God,' at first, Mary was slightly fearful or at least concerned that the apparition could be a trick of the devil. I'll do my best to look it up and edit it into this comment, soon as I can, (but I'm pretty swamped).
Revelation 12:6 6 and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. God hid her and protected her. To protect is saving or to prevent anything bad to happen.
Immaculate conception is rightly accepted until she gave birth to Jesus. But the Bible didn’t say that Mary was sinless all her life. And for that matter if she isn’t she’s doesn't come under human being for whom Jesus shed His blood and became a ransom. So you mean Jesus is not die for Mary as well.
Mary actually fulfilled perfectly what all humans are called to. Mary is fully human and fully divinized like ALL of us are called to be. The Blessed Mother is not Divine but divinized.
I've never seen a single scripture posted in a Catholic comment section, especially when it comes to Mary. The teachings, church dogma, and interpretations of man are put above the infallible written word of God.
FYI The Holy Bible is a declared Canon of the Catholic Church in the 4th century. It is also a Catholic doctrine infallibly declared by The Pope and its councils in the 4th century, it is nowhere found in scriptures. Mary is Immaculate because she was already full of grace and have found grace with God even before Jesus was born in the bubble of space and time (earth). Read the salutation of Angel Gabriel to Mary: "Hail full of grace... and Mary you have found grace with God" in LUKE 1:28-31
Very much so…..if you read the Catechism Of The Catholic Church you’ll see in the notes more references to it’s teachings and doctrines than you will see about in Scripture
If Mary was perfect and sinless, why did she need to offer up two turtledoves at the temple as sin offering after having a baby and going through the prescribed purification of the Law?
@ did the perfect Mary become unclean from her bleeding after having a child such as her monthly bleeding? Did the perfect Mary become unclean from her monthly bleeding? Did the perfect Mary have any monthly bleeding at all?
@@MichaelWysocki-ks5xt: I don't know why so many Protestants consider the presentation in the Temple as 'sin offering'. Somebody must have put that idea into your head because you won't read it in St. Luke's Gospel! Read Luke 2:22-39 again. Do you see the words, or even the suggestion, of a 'sin offering'? Mary and Joseph were presenting their first-born son; "Every male opening the womb shall be called holy to the Lord" They offered sacrifice "...as it is written in the law..." "... And after they had performed all these things according to the law of the Lord, they returned to Galilee..." They were a good, law abiding Jewish family.
The immaculate conception dogma is missing from the earliest patristic sources. Mary didn’t even enter into the picture of theological disputes of the church fathers until the upsurge of Christological heresies and the impulse of asceticism and monasticism in church history. Catholic scholar, Ludwig Ott, admits: “Neither Greek nor Latin Fathers explicitly teach the Immaculate Conception of Mary” (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, Tan Publishers, 1960, p. 201) The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967, 7:378-81) states that: “…the Immaculate Conception is not taught explicitly in Scripture … the earliest church Fathers regarded Mary as holy but not as absolutely sinless … It is impossible to give a precise date when this belief was held as a matter of Faith, but by the 8th or 9th century, it seems to have been generally admitted…” Even after then, controversies over this dogma raged on for a whole 1000 years with the Dominicans fighting the Franciscans over the issue. The so-called “infallible authority” of Rome was neutral on the issue. Even a 19th century Catholic bishop admitted: “The Church does not decide the controversy concerning the Conception of the Blessed Virgin, and several other disputed points, because she sees nothing clear and certain concerning them either in the written or unwritten Word, and therefore leaves her children to form their own opinions concerning them” (Cited in George Salmon, The Infallibility of the Church, 182) This proves that this dogma was a very late development and had just been around only about 150 years. It can’t be supported either with the Bible or traditions.
Typology is good and useful and has scriptural roots for affirming theology, but if your only bases for a theology is typology than it’s objective opinion. Almost every typology of Christ has either a parable or plain teaching. For example, Christ is the ram that replaced Issac, the teachers teach He was our sacrifice “And by that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.” Heb. 10:10
You can put an addition to the words she "is immaculately conceived" that do not come from scripture. With one of her most recognised appearances (Lourdes) she herself told Bernadette that SHE IS "I am the immaculate conception". So this has nothing to do with becoming an earthly human being in Elizabeths womb but with her general condition or state (by grace of god) from the beginning. This fits to your explaining god is out of time and space.
I take thousand year peace found in Revelation with teaching of God being omnipotent omnisciencent omnipresent, And relying on my witness to miracle of faith...believe that God has life for us where He will teach us in an after life in paradise similar to patriarch thousand year lifespan. So every thing denied or frustrated on earth can be experienced to help you grow as God wanted. Including a peaceful birth up to death experience. Including having a family with souls like Mary kept from sin. So to me Mary is foreshadowing of paradise waiting after this earth and before full rest in heaven with God. Also for those already in heaven waiting on us, it says a thousand years is like a day to God, so that enrichment doesn't neglect heaven as really just like a day. To me, the good thief only had to complete action to relinquish all disagreements with God to believe Jesus is Authority and Divine Mercy in every thing. That enabled him to enter Paradise with his limited understanding in why doing it God's way works the best. I feel as a loving family we want to help God and so allow understanding and divine revelation to form. I don't feel Purgatory frustrations help a soul...like good thief...heaven after death is available if able to separate yourself from the way you wish work to be done on earth. Have to allow God's Wisdom to be Higher than you.
First of all, I'm not a Catholic or a Protestant all I am is a Bible believer Bible obeying born-again Christian. I agree with the Catholics what they say about Mary. Yes, she was born without sin as the RCC says, and known to be Immaculate Conceived but here is the shocking thing I'm going to say to all of you. She was not the only one who was Immaculate Conceived but everyone was, are, and will also. We were all born without sin just like Mary was. From the Catholic Encyclopedia definition, we read this. The preservation and exemption of the Blessed Virgin Mary from every stain of original sin from the first moment of her conception we declare, pronounce, and define that the most holy Blessed Virgin Mary at the first instance of her conception was preserved Immaculate from all stains of original sin. Now if I can prove to you what the Catholic Encyclopedia has defined Immaculate Conception to be is the same definition as what the Bible says about all of us that we are also preserved and exempt from every stain of original sin from the first moment of our conception. Will you concede that we also are Immaculate Conceived? If I quote these two passages one in Psalm 139:13-14 “For You formed my inward parts; You covered me in my mother’s womb. I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Marvelous are Your works, And that my soul knows very well.” and this passage in Ezekiel 28:15 “You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you.” Would you say when it says “You formed my inward parts, and fearfully and wonderfully made, and “You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created” does it talk about Mary? Yes, right? Well, not only her but all of us my friend. Now can I take the Catholic Encyclopedia definition and read it this way? The preservation and exemption of all babies from every stain of original sin from the first moment of our conception we declare, pronounce, and define that all at the first instance of our conception were preserved Immaculate from all stains of original sin. Can this also refer to all of us and those who are born today and will tomorrow? Most absolutely. The Bible passages in Ezekiel 18 below prove we do not bear the guilt of Adam therefore his sin is not transferred onto us we are born sinless, holy, perfect, and spotless just like Mary was. When we get to the age of accountability and we know what is right and what is wrong we will sin and all have sinned and when we do we take responsibility for our actions not because of Adam's sin but by the choice we made. Ezekiel 18:19-20 “Yet you say, ‘Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?’ Because the son has done what is lawful and right, and has kept all My statutes and observed them, he shall surely live. The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself." Here are more Bible passages that will completely refute and debunk your notion that the RCC doctrine keeps saying that the Blessed Virgin Mary is the only human being born sinless when the Bible says everyone is born sinless. Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them." Because we are born in the image of God who is HOLY HOLY HOLY then we also are born holy. If you say we are born with a sinful nature you are saying that God make us a sinner even before we are born that is blasphemy to the core. God created everything good and right never bad or wrong. Everything He creates is pure and perfect and never makes mistakes like some keep saying He made me that way as to say it is not my fault it is His. No, my friend, it is your fault for the choice you made take responsibility for your action and repent or you likewise will perish. Ecclesiastes 7:29 "Truly, this only I have found: That God made man upright, But they have sought out many schemes.” Matthew 18:2-6 Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me." If a child goes to heaven certainly a baby will also, therefore, were not born with a sinful nature. Mark 10:13-16 Then they brought little children to Him, that He might touch them; but the disciples rebuked those who brought them. But when Jesus saw it, He was greatly displeased and said to them, “Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of God. Assuredly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means enter it.” And He took them up in His arms, laid His hands on them, and blessed them. Again if a child will go to heaven certainly a baby will also, therefore, were not born with a sinful nature. Romans 9:11 "for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls." Now let's bring this further in the future. This dogma of the Immaculate Conception was defined by Pius IX on December 8, 1854. As you can see it was all made up from the go by a man many centuries after Jesus Christ was ascended into heaven and where did this Pius get that idea from? Did he get it from some Mary's apparition where she said she was Immaculate Conceived or by twisting some Scriptures to come up with that idea? Pius finally defined it on December 8, 1854, just before Mary said it herself at the grotto of Lourdes on 25 March 1858, when Saint Bernadette Soubirous asked the name of the mysterious Lady who appeared to her, she replied, “I am the Immaculate Conception.” That is odd Pius said it first before she said it. So he must have got that idea from twisting some Bible passages. Now let's add this up. That could only prove it was not Mary who appeared to Saint Bernadette or ever appeared to any of all her apparitions past and future but it was Satan himself the angel of light. He wants to confirm her apparitions so you Catholics stay firm in her that since you love her so much and you seem not able to live without her or take her out of your mind that you pray, bow down, and worship her on your knees it was his way to make you believe more about her and keep in you so deep in the dark because he did not want to lose you. Another reason it could not be Mary is because she knows we are all born without sin from what God says about us and why would she come and tell us a lie and go against the teaching of God's word that she is the only one sinless and nobody else. It would not make any sense and she would have sinned and now on her way to hell.
Just for me to prove the RCC doctrine of Immaculate Conception does not agree with what the Bible says is enough to show your doctrine is a lie. The Bible says that all liars will have their part in the lake of fire and it only takes one lie to end in hell. Now please stop lying you are in danger of going to hell with the rest of the Catholics. If you preach that lies and many lies of the RCC doctrine you will be responsible for sending many with you to hell. Read the Bible properly at its face value and in the context it was written. You have not studied the Bible enough my friend. Come to Christ not to Mary she is dead and her bones are still in the grave.
I'm neither, just like you. I've been studying where catholics got this concept from. From what they are saying, she's not just sinless from birth, but stays sinless due to being "full of grace". In the KJV in Luke, it says "highly favored". When I looked it up in the greek, I was surprised to learn it meant "full of grace", just like the catholics said.
@@jennifertiemann6403the problem is that the Bible doesn’t self-define “full of grace” as meaning “morally perfect / sinless.” That is simply the RCC’s interpretation of the phrase.
Rev12:2 Mmm…since the “woman” of revelation 12 travailed in childbirth, this would suggest she still under the curse, and thus, if the “woman” is indeed mary, would argue against the RCC.. immaculate conception doctrine. (don’t forget genesis3 :15-16)
Jesus still got tired, fatigued from work. Jesus still sweat, even to the sweating of Blood. Jesus's human nature still had to grow in wisdom and knowledge. He had a body in all things like ours, yet He had no sin. So, it's possible Mary shared in the physical weakness of our fallen state, yet remained sinless.
I'm sorry, I don't understand how Mary traveling while she's pregnant disproves immaculate conception. Everyone travels. Adam and eve traveled around the garden before they sinned. Jesus traved a lot. Please explain.
That’s what Catholic doctrine and dogmas do…..twist Scripture like a pretzel to confirm their man made beliefs and force people to accept it without question or they will be excommunicated from the Catholic Church
So Mary wasn’t a Jew?? literally if Mary could have been sinless, then God could have just done that for everyone and not have to take on flesh, come to the earth and pay the price for sin. if anyone can be sinless without the death, burial and resurrection? It is written in Ezekiel, that the only way God causes us to do His will is by giving us a new heart through salvation. All you are saying is contradicting key tenants of the Christian faith. God is consistent and never the author of confusion You say that God gave it to her, then He did to Abraham. But he was born a sinner too. It’s so sad that you don’t see how inconsistent your logic is. Abraham, Ps. Sadly, you are picking all these scriptures out of context. Saying it over and again doesn’t make true.
Didn't you HEAR the presenter say God applied the grace from Jesus's holy Death and Resurrection to Mary BEFORE She was conceived? Yes, God COULD HAVE done that to ANYONE, but He foresaw that if He did us that favor, WE WOULD STILL SIN. GOD FORESAW *MARY* IS THE ONLY MERE HUMAN BEING WHO WOULD REMAIN SINLESS IF SHE WERE CONCEIVED WITHOUT ORIGINAL SIN. Without Mary, God would not have created the Universe, because without Mary, He could not have been born as a Man to redeem it.
Good point about "then Mary could have died for our sins". The argument is that Jesus took on all our sins onto himself as the sacrificial lamb. All the worlds sins to where God could not even look at him because Jesus took all the sin onto himself. Mary couldn't do that because she was 100% mortal. No mortal could ever withstand the sin of the whole world through all of time. Jesus didn't just die in the present, he died for all of time. To take on the sin through all of time would require the power of God.
The immaculate conception dogma is missing from the earliest patristic sources. Mary didn’t even enter into the picture of theological disputes of the church fathers until the upsurge of Christological heresies and the impulse of asceticism and monasticism in church history. Catholic scholar, Ludwig Ott, admits: “Neither Greek nor Latin Fathers explicitly teach the Immaculate Conception of Mary” (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, Tan Publishers, 1960, p. 201) The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967, 7:378-81) states that: “…the Immaculate Conception is not taught explicitly in Scripture … the earliest church Fathers regarded Mary as holy but not as absolutely sinless … It is impossible to give a precise date when this belief was held as a matter of Faith, but by the 8th or 9th century, it seems to have been generally admitted…” Even after then, controversies over this dogma raged on for a whole 1000 years with the Dominicans fighting the Franciscans over the issue. The so-called “infallible authority” of Rome was neutral on the issue. Even a 19th century Catholic bishop admitted: “The Church does not decide the controversy concerning the Conception of the Blessed Virgin, and several other disputed points, because she sees nothing clear and certain concerning them either in the written or unwritten Word, and therefore leaves her children to form their own opinions concerning them” (Cited in George Salmon, The Infallibility of the Church, 182) This proves that this dogma was a very late development and had just been around only about 150 years. It can’t be supported either with the Bible or traditions.
You could say you believe what the Church has taught about Mary for centuries, not what protestants say today. The essential difference between prots and Catholics is that we look to the Church for the correct teaching. They look to their denomination or their own interpretation of scripture. We have unity, they have disunity even among themselves over many doctrines.
It seems like someone would have corrected Jerome at the time he wrote the translation. Why is it only today's protestants who object to the translation of kecharitomene?
I'm from a Catholic background. The Immaculate Conception of Mary, The Conception of Jesus without a male imput, The Assumption and The Ascension are all fictional. It's fine to be a Catholic, a Protestant, a Muslim, a Jew et al provided that you don't take these things seriously.
With god anything possible its in kjv god split the red sea, god told sarah she would bare a child age 90 years old, jesus walked on water, jesus Turned water to wine, he made Adam and eve from dirt,
God prevented the stain of sin prior to her conception Her parents have nothing to do with it. Normal marital relationship. Don't put restrictions on God. He operates outside space time. Read the dogma by the author Pope Pious the ninth. It's all there in his words.
@@Lone_Painter Yes I agree I reject Bible only. The premise that it's mandatory to be explicit in scripture alone is unbiblical in itself. Peace Merry Christmas.
In context, God was speaking of and to Eve throughout Genesis 3: 14-20, not another woman. The seed of the Serpent is the lie/deceit and the seed of the woman would be the Truth (Jesus). Meaning: out of the loins of Eve (the mother of all living) would come forth the Truth. Mary was a young girl (alma) when she had conceived Jesus by the Holy Spirit.
Can't be true rt? Cause if it is then you have to come home to the Catholic Church. Listen I get it. I don't like being told I'm wrong either but I was and now I ask you to consider it. For 1600 years this was held by everyone. Try to be open minded. Peace Merry Christmas
Great summary overall. FYI, Solomon wasn't David's 1st son (4:55). Always double-check your Scripture. Little slip ups like that betray "junior scholar" status.
Martin Luther believed in the immaculate conception, and he was the first one to leave the catholic church. He's the one who started the whole Protestant Reformation.
@@jennifertiemann6403first one to leave the Catholic Church? I hate to break it to you but people have been leaving the Catholic Church since it started.
You say us catholics are required to believe this dogma.. I don't believe God requires belief in this, and I, not the church, decide what I believe. The catholic church can't force anyone to believe anything. This is no more than a theory. Why would she need to be conceived without sin? The idea of The Lord coming into the world was to free us from eternal punishment from sin. It's He who is perfect and born without sin. No-one else, including his mother, had to be free from sin when she was born. It's just a theory. I wish people would just let her rest in peace. I think she's done enough!
"Enmity," "Full of Grace," "overshadowed," these are all studies in semantics. The theology of the Trinity, while not found in the Bible, is a compilation of Holy Scripture, not just a personal interpretation of words in the Bible. I have no problem with a person wishing to believe this is how the incarnational God put a barrier between Himself and sinful human nature, but to require this as a universal belief of the church, is inappropriate. Where God placed the barrier, either in himself, or His mother, or His Grandmother, for that fact, is not what salvation is about, but pure speculation.
Who says that these interpretations are eisegesis in nature.? Quite the opposite. Also the church has Dogmas for a reason. It's deeper than just cause I wanna.
👉"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." -1 John 1:8 "for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God" -Romans 3:23 "Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and doesn’t sin." -Ecclesiastes 7:20 "Behold, I was born in iniquity. My mother conceived me in sin." -Psalm 51:5 "...There is no one who does good, no, not one." -Psalm 14:3 👉From the mouth of Jesus himself: "...No one is good except one-God." -Mark 10:18 👉From the mouth of Yahweh himself: "...the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth..." -Genesis 8:21 ⚠️"But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you any “good news” other than that which we preached to you, let him be cursed." -Galatians 1:8
@iggyantioch If I pray to God alone I cannot go wrong. If praying to the saints, angels or Mary is wrong (& I believe it is) you will not enter the kingdom! Is it really worth it? If God is not answering your prayers, you think he's going to answer them because you bypass Him and try to go through someone else? Pray to the Creator, not the created!
@@Belief_Before_Glory Ok . Thanks for the response. I pray to God directly. Through the one Mediator Jesus Christ. I ask others to pray with and for me Intecessors. Both are scriptural And do not contradict scripture. Seriously will you please pray for me as my brother in Christ 🙏 I will pray for you!
@@Belief_Before_Glory This might give some context. We are One Family in Christ in Heaven and on Earth Eph. 3:14-15- we are all one family (“Catholic”) in heaven and on earth, united together, as children of the Father, through Jesus Christ. Our brothers and sisters who have gone to heaven before us are not a different family. We are one and the same family. This is why, in the Apostles Creed, we profess a belief in the “communion of saints.” There cannot be a “communion” if there is no union. Loving beings, whether on earth or in heaven, are concerned for other beings, and this concern is reflected spiritually through prayers for one another. Eph. 1:22-23; 5:23-32; Col. 1:18,24 - this family is in Jesus Christ, the head of the body, which is the Church
@@iggyantioch Friend, I don't know you but I love you. Praying for one another is good. Bowing the knee or praying to anyone but God AND GOD ALONE is not good (not even archangels!). That's all, please heed this advice as we are ALL servants of God! ♥️
That's a lot of theological acrobatics. Maybe. The mystery of Mary clearly indicates a devine special graceful presence that very much deserves high respect and love as she was the earthly mother of our lord. But as a fully human person, the mystery itself seems to be an argument of degrees rather than either or.
Yes, the Catholic church is elevating Mary to a God-like status. They make her into someone that is omni-present as if she can be everywhere and answer everyone's prayers. The Bible shows that only God is omni-present, not even the angels, or Satan is omni-present. Nearly every teaching about Mary in the Catholic church is meant to elevate her to a status that is a divine-like status and not a human status.
Kojow, catholics don't believe Mary is divine at all. They reiterate that all the time. They don't worship Mary and find that accusation insulting to their Love of the Trinity. They don't believe that Mary is omni-present. They believe she is in Heaven. They don't pray in worship to her, they simply pray in speaking to her. They believe in pray speaking to any dead person in Heaven. This is not worship. They ask the different dead people to talk to God and Jesus for them in the same exact way you would ask another person to pray for you. If you're protestant, then pray speaking to the dead would be very strange to you. Also with the "how can Mary hear everyone who is talking to her' thing, things work differently in Heaven. Every one of your 5 senses work differently, including your mind. Research people who have died, gone to Heaven, and come back. You'll see what I mean.
@@jennifertiemann6403 Here's the thing, you gave me the words of Jennifer, rather than the words of the Bible. You need to back up what you said with scripture. When Catholics teach that Mary had no sin, that is elevating her above human status. The Bible says that all have sinned except for Jesus. When Catholics teach that we can ask dead people for help, there is nothing Biblical about this. The Bible says we are not to attempt communicating with dead people. When Catholics say that Mary did not die but was assumed into heaven, there is nothing Biblical about this. The only reason for Catholics to come up with false teachings like this in regards to Mary is because they try to idolize her. Catholics are unable to see that the reason all these teachings about Mary that are not Biblical is because she has been idolized in the Catholic church.
You lost me from the get go? You describe a scenario that leaves no possibilty of her having free will, so obvious that you respond she has free will? The math is not working in my head ?? I need an explaination of how both can be true?? Logically please!
Mary had free will. She could have said yes or no. The fact that God knew what the answer would be does not take away from the freedom and courage it took to say yes. The fact that Mary was willing to undertake all that being the virgin mother of the savior would entail is absolutely amazing.
@iggyantioch he says she was kept from sin and predisposed with concupecsiece. No desire to sin ! How can that coexist with, free will. Its right at the begginning of video. Rewatch and explain to me.
I thought jesus came to conquer sin , if mary was immaculatly concieved, what part of jesus would truly be human. Im still listening but making me confused ! You even took jesus free will away?IMO .
@darrellperez1029Deuteronomy 4:2"You shall not add to the word of God... nor take away from it." Protestants threw away 7 books, and parts of others, from the Bible. Jesus used and quoted from the Septuagint Bible. The rabbi-made Masoretic text that protestants use didn't exist until about a hundred years AFTER Jesus ascended into Heaven. Where does the Bible say, "The Bible alone is the sole Word of God"? The Bible NEVER SAYS THAT. Instead, the Bible says, "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God." Protestants don't have EVERY WORD, because they THREW AWAY the oral teaching Jesus gave His Apostles, known as DIVINE TRADITION. 2Thessalonians2:15 says "Hold fast to the Traditions you have received from us, whether by WORD OF MOUTH *or* by letter." What part of the New Testament did Peter preach from on the first Pentecost Sunday? No book of the New Testament would be written for 15 years, and the last book would not be written for at least 7 decades. The Church had gone through the persecution of Nero ~ A.D. 68 in which St. Peter and St. Paul were killed BEFORE the New Testament was entirely written. The Bible would not be compiled into one book until the Catholic bishops met in A.D. 382 at the Council of Rome under Pope Damasus I. Thousands of martyrs died in 3 centuries of persecutions BEFORE the Bible existed as one book! No one in the early Church believed in "Bible alone" because THERE WAS NO BIBLE. There were over 300 texts claiming to be Scripture before the Council of Rome decided which books WERE Scripture. For instance, the letter of Pope St. Clement, third successor to St. Peter, was still being read as Scripture in the Corinthian Church until Pope Damasus I said it was not Scripture. Jesus gave His Apostles and their successors authority to interpret Scripture through the Holy Spirit. He NEVER gave that authority to YOU, or *any protestant*
Why was the Ark of the Covenant lined with gold? Because it was designed to contain Aaron's rod (the way), the tablets of the Commandments (the truth )and the manna from heaven (the life). Why was Mary totally sinless? Because she was designed to contain Our Lord Jesus Himself, the Word made flesh. The Way, the Truth and the Life. Our Lady is the Ark of the New Covenant.
There are 0 passages from any of the apostles using typology from the Old Testament to talk about Mary. All typology, prophecy, symbolism in the Bible is about Christ and no one else. Even Christ Himself said this Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John:5:39 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. Luke:24:25-27 Now show me where any apostle or writter of the new testament says similar doctrinal things about Mary? Is nonexistant. I think this is very bad hermeneutics and it distorts the Bible completedly in other words false teaching. God bless.
Mary was sinless as God himself is sinless. Therefore Jesus was destined to be born sinless. That is the only way to ensure His mission could not be subjected to any valid scrutiny. This was the threat He posed to Jerusalem. He was and is the ultimate arbiter of truth. His frustration was knowing that those who's motives He questioned would not come back into the fold. They had forgotten or chosen to ignore the laws of God long ago. A battle won by a malo, but not the war. Thou shalt not kill Thou shall not covet. Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Thou shall not make unto thee a graven image.
@alhilford2345 original sin is inherited through conception, which means Mary's patents were carriers. Unless Mary was conceived without intercourse, which would make in another incarnation.
*Immaculate conception of Mary* This dogma means Mary was conceived without sin. she had neither original sin nor personal sin. The doctrine can be formulated by studying the typology in the old testament. We believe that the original sin is transmitted through flesh and blood from Adam and Eve to their progeny. So, if Mary had inherited the original sin from her parents, then Jesus too will inherit it from Mary because Jesus took his flesh and blood from her. However, we all believe Jesus was without sin. This begs the question of where and how did the transmission of the original sin stop in the case of Jesus. Catholics believe the New Testament is superior to the Old Testament. In the Old Testament, we have Adam and Eve created without sin. In the New Testament, we have Jesus and Mary. If Jesus is the new Adam and Mary is the new Eve, we believe Jesus and Mary will be superior to / better than Adam and Eve and so they must be without sin. Adam and Eve succumbed to temptation. The serpent defeated them. But we read that the devil could not tempt Jesus when he was fasting in the desert for 40 days. We read in Revelation chapter 12 that the Woman defeated the dragon, meaning the Dragon could not make Mary fall into sin. Mary had defeated the Dragon, the ancient Serpent. So if Mary is superior to Eve, it means that there is no sin in Mary. In Luke gospel we read that Angel Gabriel addressed Mary as hail full of grace (hail, highly favoured one in Protestant Bible) even before Mary had said anything. This indicated that God had bestowed full of grace (overflowing grace) on Mary right from her conception. Paul said that God's grace is sufficient for him to overcome the affliction of the thorn in his flesh. Now, if we are to believe God's grace can help us overcome trials and temptations, won't God's full of grace keep Mary free from all sins and temptations? In Revelation chapter 12, the woman received outside help such that the dragon could not defeat her. This outside help is God's intervention, God's grace. God preserved and protected Mary for the sake of Jesus. God will not be mocked, right? So, God will not let the Devil mock him by saying that he had defeated Jesus' mother Mary. For the sake of his own honour, God will create Mary immaculate and keep her free from original sin or personal sin. Catholics view Mary as the Ark of the New Covenant. She had in her womb Jesus Christ the word of God, Jesus Christ the high priest, and Jesus Christ who gave his flesh for us to eat. This corresponds to the Old Ark of the Covenant which had the stone tablets of the 10 commandments, Aaron's stick that sprouted leaves, and the manna. The Ark was so holy that those 70 men who had peeped into it were instantly killed by God. In another instance, a man who tried to catch hold of the Ark from falling from a moving bullock cart was also instantly killed by God. So, if the Old Ark is so holy because of God's presence overshadowing it such that defiled hands can't touch it due to God's protection, the holy spirit who overshadowed Mary will keep her holy and undefiled as well. Israelites took the Ark of the covenant box to war. Mary is waging war against the dragon to protect us which we read in Revelation chapter 12. For Isaiah to prophesy the coming of Jesus Christ, in a vision, the lips of Isaiah was cleansed with a live coal taken from the temple in heaven. To be the forerunner of Jesus Christ, John the Baptist was filled with the holy spirit even from his mother's womb. Thus, if God has taken this much of care to make Isaiah and John the Baptist holy in order to prepare the way for Jesus, how much more will he keep Mary holy such that she will be fit to bear the holy child Jesus? Catholics view that it is most fitting that holy things be kept in a holy vessel. Thus, Mary must be made fit to bear the holy child Jesus. With God's full of grace, she defeated the dragon. Eve brought hate, sin, enmity and death but Mary brought redemption, life, love, peace and joy through her son Jesus. Mary is immaculate, the masterpiece of God.
If Christ, God Himself needed to be born from a sinless virgin in order to be sinless himself ....... shouldnt Mary have had to be born from a sinless virgin herself in order to be free of sin and so on with her mom and grandma etc. This is illogical and crazy lol there was no need for Mary to be without sin, sin comes from the headship of Adam not Eve so the woman really is along for the ride as a sinner but really is the man as headship of the creation of God that is responsible for sin thats why Mary had to be a virgin because the headship providing the seed was God Himself a perfect sinless headship.
No and the reason is God is not bound by that logic. God chose Mary and gave her the “future” grace. And that is enough. No need to carry on backward. You use human logic but you don’t see that it is unnecessary that Mary’s parent don’t have to be sinless? Because Grace from God can be anytime, any moment, any person. Yes, Mary’s parent were good people ( and lived a sainthood life). But they’re not necessary to be sinless. Just Mary because that part of God’s plan.
I think a more logical argument to your post (which was a good point) was that all babies are born sinless. There are a ton of verses in the Bible that backs this up. Someone posted them all in the video comments. So mary was born sinless like the rest of us. (That's why babies and children go to Heaven if they die) The immaculate part is her being full of grace which keeps her sinless. Eve was born and lived with no sin, and then chose to sin. Mary was born and lived with no sin, and chose not to sin. Mary was only a teenager when she had Jesus, so it's not like she had lived a long time when she became pregnant. The Holy Spirit overshadowing her had to also effecr her. Then giving birth and raising the Son of God would also effect her. For 33 years she was with Jesus. Then after Jesus died, she was with John, who took care of her. Imagine if you were in that situation. All that would affect you in the most positive way imaginable. You wouldn't want to sin. You would choose not too. Hanging out with Jesus everyday who is half man half God is a pretty huge anti-sinning motivation. When Gabriel spoke with her he knew she was full of grace. Which proves right away that she's different.
No such thing as immaculate conception in the bible: to say such a thing is to nullify what the bible says in, Roman's 3:23! To say that Mary lived her entire life, perfect and witout sin, is like making the Spirit of God into a liar, since only Jesus lived a sinless life! Please don't lie to people,with such heresy?
Also Mary was born from Mans Seed, Adams Seed the Corrupted Seed!!!!!! Hiw was she sinless!!!!! 9:42 9:54 you are tge one cherry picking Noo read that text please dont pick to suit you
Even Adam and Eve? Or what about Christ in the flesh? Or what about babies or people who are mentally handicapped? Also it’s important to add that Paul is making a case that there is no distinction between Jews and gentiles and he means sin characterizes both Jews and gentiles. Paul also recognizes later in Roman’s that babies have not yet committed personal sin when he speaks of Jacob and Esau (Romans 9:11) hope this helps
Rememeber whem your mother used to say cause i said so! Seems the same with catholics. Yeah lets get closer to jesus all the distractions are not neccessary?
What a crock. You have proven nothing. You quote the church fathers and Luther. You twist scripture to your own end. Jesus didn’t teach it nor did His apostles. You base your beliefs on interpretation by stirring your beliefs into a certain direction. Stop lying about scripture. You just use man’s words and not GOD’s. That is why I left the RCC. Your church is built on deception. Repent. GOD alone matters. Mary and your saints and you and I are nothing compared to GOD.
It’s shocking how you’re unintelligent. This ain’t Marian worship 💀 Do you know how Mary was saved by sin? Through Jesus’ future sacrifice. 💀 Do you think people worship Enoch because his stance is surprisingly like Mary’s…
@@iggyantiochyes. Of course she was full of sin, because non were sinless but Christ. Not only that but Christ was born into a world of sin, that was perfect but was defiled by humans. Not only that but few in his lifetime even hailed him as king. He was given a crown of thorns. His followers were killed. Her sinfulness should not surprise you. But you have learned to worship Mary rather than Christ therefore his words confuse you.
@@mabeatrizcarranza5980 I know Scripture very well and there in mention of Mary's conception nor birth. Not even a hint. please study the Scripture and see if this doctrine is support by Scripture. You will find that it is not and therefore is to be rejected.
@Donald Lumpkin But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. - 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 No one in the New Testament thought Jesus turned Himself into a piece of bread at His supper. No one taught that Christ had 4 natures instead of 2.
If, according to the Bible, that Jesus had brothers and sisters, it just shows that God allowed Joseph and Mary to lead a normal Jewish family life while Jesus was growing up. Joseph must have supported his family while working as a carpenter and Mary was a housewife taking care of Jesus and her other children at home.
I love how all of heaven was on the edge of their seats when she showed her obedience to God the Father in her Magnificat. Like Eve, she was conceived without sin, but unlike Eve, she accepted God's will. She had a choice, and her yes stomped out Eve's no. So beautiful is our Blessed Mother!
All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God Mary wasnt excluded
@@billymimnaugh3998listen to the video again.
@@billymimnaugh3998
I guess Jesus had sinful blood running through his body in Mary’s womb. I guess you're right. All means all, even Jesus
Where in scripture can we find that?
@billymimnaugh3998 did you watch the video because he address this very thing
Sitting in church this morning on the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception of Mary 2024 with many questions still rolling around in my head. I have to admit this one is hard to hold in my head, but this video gives me new confidence every time I watch it! Thank you so much. You are a blessing!
it's a deception, clif -- don't drink the kool aide!
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The immaculate conception dogma is missing from the earliest patristic sources. Mary didn’t even enter into the picture of theological disputes of the church fathers until the upsurge of Christological heresies and the impulse of asceticism and monasticism in church history.
Catholic scholar, Ludwig Ott, admits: “Neither Greek nor Latin Fathers explicitly teach the Immaculate Conception of Mary” (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, Tan Publishers, 1960, p. 201)
The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967, 7:378-81) states that:
“…the Immaculate Conception is not taught explicitly in Scripture … the earliest church Fathers regarded Mary as holy but not as absolutely sinless … It is impossible to give a precise date when this belief was held as a matter of Faith, but by the 8th or 9th century, it seems to have been generally admitted…”
Even after then, controversies over this dogma raged on for a whole 1000 years with the Dominicans fighting the Franciscans over the issue. The so-called “infallible authority” of Rome was neutral on the issue.
Even a 19th century Catholic bishop admitted:
“The Church does not decide the controversy concerning the Conception of the Blessed Virgin, and several other disputed points, because she sees nothing clear and certain concerning them either in the written or unwritten Word, and therefore leaves her children to form their own opinions concerning them” (Cited in George Salmon, The Infallibility of the Church, 182)
This proves that this dogma was a very late development and had just been around only about 150 years. It can’t be supported either with the Bible or traditions.
@@tony1685 deception in order to do what? What's your aim? To get people to renounce the Chuch Jesus founded? To get Christians to dishonor Mary?
@@BitsyBee Jesus couldn't have founded this institution, since it mandates sin.
Mary is dead, focus on Christ, the One who gave all.
@@tony1685 Tony, you never learn. Get out of that Seventh Day Adventist cult. It is a false church.
Wonderful teaching! Should be more popular!!!
This is excellent ! The only thing (maybe I missed it?) is that also Mary was the Nee Eve and triumphed where Eve fell. There is no way Mary was going to be born in a lesser state than Eve was.
@@finallythere100 Yes, he didn't point that out, but he said at the outset his exposition would not be exhaustive.
Not true. For that to be true everyone in Marys bloodline would have had to have been perfect and without sin
@@Jontech777you’re trying to limit God to fit within your own desires and understanding. Protestants lack humility, and it blinds them to the depth and beauty of Biblical truth.
The immaculate conception dogma is missing from the earliest patristic sources. Mary didn’t even enter into the picture of theological disputes of the church fathers until the upsurge of Christological heresies and the impulse of asceticism and monasticism in church history.
Catholic scholar, Ludwig Ott, admits: “Neither Greek nor Latin Fathers explicitly teach the Immaculate Conception of Mary” (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, Tan Publishers, 1960, p. 201)
The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967, 7:378-81) states that:
“…the Immaculate Conception is not taught explicitly in Scripture … the earliest church Fathers regarded Mary as holy but not as absolutely sinless … It is impossible to give a precise date when this belief was held as a matter of Faith, but by the 8th or 9th century, it seems to have been generally admitted…”
Even after then, controversies over this dogma raged on for a whole 1000 years with the Dominicans fighting the Franciscans over the issue. The so-called “infallible authority” of Rome was neutral on the issue.
Even a 19th century Catholic bishop admitted:
“The Church does not decide the controversy concerning the Conception of the Blessed Virgin, and several other disputed points, because she sees nothing clear and certain concerning them either in the written or unwritten Word, and therefore leaves her children to form their own opinions concerning them” (Cited in George Salmon, The Infallibility of the Church, 182)
This proves that this dogma was a very late development and had just been around only about 150 years. It can’t be supported either with the Bible or traditions.
Matthew’s lessons in the Science of Sainthood are exceptional! I can’t recommend them highly enough!!!
Anyone who believes this man does not know scripture. We are encouraged to be like the Bereans and to test whatever we are being taught, whether it aligns with scripture or not. Most of this man's teachings do not align with scripture at all but catholicism.
Thank you for explaining is, well done
Watching prayerfully for post celebration of the Immaculate Conception. 🙏 Mama Mary, immaculately conceived, pray for us!
The immaculate conception dogma is missing from the earliest patristic sources. Mary didn’t even enter into the picture of theological disputes of the church fathers until the upsurge of Christological heresies and the impulse of asceticism and monasticism in church history.
Catholic scholar, Ludwig Ott, admits: “Neither Greek nor Latin Fathers explicitly teach the Immaculate Conception of Mary” (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, Tan Publishers, 1960, p. 201)
The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967, 7:378-81) states that:
“…the Immaculate Conception is not taught explicitly in Scripture … the earliest church Fathers regarded Mary as holy but not as absolutely sinless … It is impossible to give a precise date when this belief was held as a matter of Faith, but by the 8th or 9th century, it seems to have been generally admitted…”
Even after then, controversies over this dogma raged on for a whole 1000 years with the Dominicans fighting the Franciscans over the issue. The so-called “infallible authority” of Rome was neutral on the issue.
Even a 19th century Catholic bishop admitted:
“The Church does not decide the controversy concerning the Conception of the Blessed Virgin, and several other disputed points, because she sees nothing clear and certain concerning them either in the written or unwritten Word, and therefore leaves her children to form their own opinions concerning them” (Cited in George Salmon, The Infallibility of the Church, 182)
This proves that this dogma was a very late development and had just been around only about 150 years. It can’t be supported either with the Bible or traditions.
Holy God, Strong God, Immortal God and God of Power - Author of the beautiful story we are witnessing. It comes full circle as a good good story should do.
Thank you, I love this teaching
Thank you for explaining this so well :-)
The Church is right to consider Joseph as one of the greatest saints. He knew he would not be able to touch Mary (2Sam 6 Uzza was struck dead for touching the Ark of the Covenant) because he was not a high priest; and yet had to show to the world that he was Mary's real husband and Jesus' real father. He really sacrificed as much as Mary.
That My Faith Charity Love Hope Will Increase That I Will Not Be Saddened Despondent But Trust Completely In Jesus Christ The Blessed Virgin Mary
Matthew, you did a very good job here. And you’re making good content that’s accurate and enlightening. I like your explanation of complete and total Enmity between the woman and the serpent.
Praise the Lord...Amen!!!
Excelent video. Thank God!
The Immacute Heart of Mary woll Triumph ❤
Pray That I Will Keep The Ten Commandments Read The Bible Poor Souls In Purgatory Prayer In Schools That I Will Repent Wholeheartedly Of My Wrongdoings Forgiveness Of Enemies Flee Evildoers That My Property Belongings Will Be Blessed That I Will Live Peacefully With My Neighbors
you are not allowed to keep all Ten Commandments and be catholic -- see Exodus 20:8-11
Brilliantly taught. I learned new things. Thank you. G Ire
Excellent video.
Good video, the immaculate conception is biblical, lots of scriptures support this doctrine. God Bless.
Is it possible to list some of the scriptures so I can learn?
Can you please list them?
KINDLY ELUCIDATE THE SCRIPTURES
It all makes sense... just as God intended it to be. Amen.
What makes sense to a man, is folly in God's eyes. Come out of her, my people. Read your Bible.
We don’t make doctrine from typology. The woman in the first and third examples is more consistent with the church. As for the annunciation, it is one thing to call her blessed and another to go way out and make assumptions that just are not there.
You have no authority to interpret Scripture. Only the hierarchy Jesus established does.
@@wms72 As a rational being I must interpret. But this opinion is not mine but that of many learned authorities. The Bible is God’s word to each of us and is meant to be understood by all.
Annunciation . The Angel speaking
The visitation. Elizabeth speaking" Blessed are You Amongst Women"
The Angel Gabriel says " Full of Grace". Those are words from heaven . FULL.
Each of us
Understood by all.
Without a teaching Authority guided by the holy Spirit you get Chaos.
I've been researching the immaculate conception too, and not only does it say I'm Luke that Mary is blessed, but in the KJV it also says "highly favored". When I looked up the Greek translation, I was shocked to find that it means full of grace. Check out the greek in the Strong's Concordance.
I know what your saying about Genesis and Revelation verses representing the church. That's what I was taught too. But both places in the Bible say woman. Mary is a woman, the church is not. And Mary fits in perfectly with what both places in the Bible are talking about.
Thank you my catholic brother for a very very sublime transcendent profound video presentation on Mother Mary for as you’ve presented it but I must mentioned this that people who read scriptures doesn’t have the slightest understanding or belief that evils can use scriptures to deceive them and yet people are so unlearned of scriptures that they say that it’s impossible for it’s Gods word, but because they disregard of what I’ve said that evils can use scriptures to deceive those who read scriptures it’s because they can’t or won’t except that of what I’ve said is ACTUALLY IN THE SCRIPTURES.Excellent well informative true presentation yeah Amen Amen Amen 🙏 🐑🕊️✨🔥
Where in the Bible can I find her being born without sin? I must have missed something.
Where in the Bible is the word Bible?
Where in SCRIPTURE then?????
@@drendaparfitt7417Listen to the presenter again. Keep listening until you understand it. Ask the Holy Spirit to help you.
@darrellperez1029means hello, nothing more than a greeting.
In the KJV in Luke it says "highly favored". If you look up the greek is means full of grace. Just like the catholics have been saying. I was shocked. Check it out in the Strong's Concordance.
Thank you
1 John 1:12
“If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.”
Also
In reference to the earlier statement that there is no verse in the Bible that says God is three and one
“For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.”
I John 5:7
Praise be Jesus Christ. Now and Forever. Matthew thank God for your ministry and abiding in God’s Will. Along with Jesus our Lord and Savior, Blessed Virgin Mary who were born sinless. Am I correct in saying the “man” and “woman” of the Garden of Eden, Samson and St. John the Baptist are the 4 others in sacred scripture born sinless? All Glory be to God.
It is unthinkable how any one can still harbour hatred/disrespect toward the holy mother after such clear explanation.
Where do we hate her? We just know no one is sinless
No one harbors hatred towards Mary the mother of Christ. What Christians hate are the lies of the apostate "church" of rome. I mean what they have done to her AND ALL THE LOFTY HEAVENLY NAMES they have come up with, out of out of thin air is blasphemous. You look at all the glories, titles, doctrines and dogmas pertaining to Mary you practically have a religion in and of itself. There's not nearly enough information in Scripture regarding Mary to come up with all of that. This is Mariology out of control. Kind of like a snowball rolling down a snowy hill, it keeps getting bigger and bigger as time goes by. There seems to be no end to the exalting of Mary. Though there's catholic apologists that will tell us all those things of Mary have been taught for 2000 years.
@@wesleysimelane3423uh… one of the oldest Christian prayers recorded well is from the early church and it’s a prayer asking Mary for intercession… the ecumenical councils say Mary didn’t sin, and that’s before Protestants ever were here…
@@wesleysimelane3423there is enough, if the tradition of the church Christ gave authority to can find it.
If Jesus is God in the flesh, Mary is the ark of the covenant.
If Jesus is God in the flesh, Mary is the mother of God.
If Jesus is God in the flesh, Mary is a heavenly mother.
If Jesus gave his mother to his beloved disciple she is our mother also.
In revelation the women is clothed with the sun and has. Crown of stars and a moon at her feet. She is pregnant. Who is this women?
Also all these things of Mary draw people towards Christ. A bad Mariology makes a bad interpretation of Christ.
We always ask Mary to pray for us to be closer with her son who is greater then her Jesus
@@wesleysimelane3423 You're right, some Catholics have deified Mary, but haven't all protestants deified the Bible? Don't Protestant denominations originate
from someone's interpretation of scripture? Wasn't the Catholic Church founded by Jesus 400 years before the Bible, and 1500 years before the printing press? Jesus founded a Church. Did He write any scripture? Didn't He give authority to the apostles to teach and define doctrine? That authority has been passed down directly through the laying on of hands. Every Catholic priest can trace his ordination directly to the apostles.
Any fool can misuse the Bible to make it say what he wants, so doesn't the Bible need a teacher who was an eye witness of Jesus or His apostles? The Church who witnessed Jesus, who preserved the history of his apostles is the reliable teacher of doctrine, the Holy Catholic Church.
Thanks a lot
This is excellent ! The only thing (maybe I missed it?) is that also Mary was the Nee Eve and triumphed where Eve fell. There is no way Mary was going to be born in a lesser state than Eve was.
Hi there! I'm a Catholic, but can anybody enlighten me on this? If the curse given to to Eve is "I will intensify your toil in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children." Then why Mary in revelation was described as "She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth". Does it mean that Mary inherited the curse given to Eve?
Thank you for asking this question! I have the same question and also wonder if Jesus’ sinless conception needed Mary to be without sin then wouldn’t Mary’s mother and father need to be sinless too? The argument doesn’t make sense. Rather doesn’t Mary being “full of grace” mean there was sin present to begin with that needed God’s grace? Could it be the Holy Spirit overshadowing Mary applies the future atonement of Jesus to her in order to prepare her to conceive him?
@@jenniferthoraldson3176
To your second point....you almost got it !!! Adam and Eve were both created in the image and likeness of God...sinless....in perfect relationship with God...full of grace. But they lost that grace when they fell.
Mary, being the second Eve was also created (at conception) full of grace. A special grace given her by God. We are saved AFTER we have sinned and fallen. Mary was saved PRIOR to falling therefore was preserved from falling. The merits of the cross were applied to Mary retroactively. This was fitting to equip her for her vocation.
Hope that helps.
Rev. 12:2 - Some Protestants argue that, because the woman had birth pangs, she was a woman with sin. However, Revelation is apocalyptic literature unique to the 1st century. It contains varied symbolism and multiple meanings of the woman (Mary, the Church and Israel). The birth pangs describe both the birth of the Church and Mary’s offspring being formed in Christ. Mary had no birth pangs in delivering her only Son Jesus.
Isaiah 66:7 - for example, we see Isaiah prophesying that before she (Mary) was in labor she gave birth; before her pain came upon her she was delivered of a son (Jesus). This is a Marian prophecy of the virgin birth of Jesus Christ.
Gal 4:19 - Paul also describes his pain as birth pangs in forming the disciples in Christ. Birth pangs describe formation in Christ.
Rom. 8:22 - also, Paul says the whole creation has been groaning in travail before the coming of Christ. We are all undergoing birth pangs because we are being reborn into Jesus Christ.
Jer. 13:21 - Jeremiah describes the birth pangs of Israel, like a woman in travail. Birth pangs are usually used metaphorically in the Scriptures.
Hos. 13:12-13 - Ephraim is also described as travailing in childbirth for his sins. Again, birth pangs are used metaphorically.
Micah 4:9-10 - Micah also describes Jerusalem as being seized by birth pangs like a woman in travail.
Rev. 12:13-16 - in these verses, we see that the devil still seeks to destroy the woman even after the Savior is born. This proves Mary is a danger to satan, even after the birth of Christ. This is because God has given her the power to intercede for us, and we should invoke her assistance in our spiritual lives.
@iggyantioch you are assuming the woman in Revelation 12 is speaking of Mary, which is false.
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I'm not assuming anything.
I believe what the Church teaches.
The same Church that has the authority to interpret Scripture and compiled the Canon. Challenges that we must “prove” all Catholic doctrine from scripture shouldn’t worry us because we reject the unbiblical doctrine of sola scriptura. When Cardinal Newman preached on the Mary’s Assumption and Immaculate Conception he gave evidence for those doctrines but he also said “I am not proving these doctrines to you, my brethren; the evidence of them lies in the declaration of the Church. The Church is the oracle of religious truth, and dispenses what the apostles committed to her in every time and place.”
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Mary became Holy when she agreed to receive the Lord Jesus as her Lord and saviour at his conception as man .. I became Holy when I received the Lord Jesus as my Lord and saviour Everyone who receives Jesus has been given the right to be Holy John 1:14.
Agreed, but only one human has ever been made so Holy she could bear the Second Person of the Holy Trinity within her.
Holy being used to describe how she was consecrated and made Holy, not that she was a source of Holiness.
Incorrect . She received God/Jesus before material conception of Jesus as man because He is was and always will be. She was born without sin because like the Ark she could not carry in her womb that what was perfect, good, holy ever. She would have died like Uzza or fallen like Eve.
@@markwelch9250 Do you know that as a Christian and a believer, the Holy Spirit dwells in you. You a sinner, but the HS dwells in you. Let that sink in and stop elevating another human to a level she was not meant for.
How could protestants listen to this and dare to minimize Mary's role???
I am not a catholic, please provide scripture for this ridiculous heresy.
Idk why you needed to add a dramatic "dare to" in your sentence.
They don't minimize her in the way you're thinking. They believe that Mary is a normal human who sinned like everyone else. That's what they're taught. The King James version of the Bible says "highly favored", not "full of grace". They would have to look up the greek in the Strong's Concordance to find out the greek means "full of grace". And then their definition of grace might be different than yours.
Protestants also don't pray-talk to dead people. That idea is completely foreign to them. They put talking to dead people with trying to contact dead people as the same thing. Like summoning ghosts like a necromancer. So when they hear of catholics pray-talking, they think they are pray-worshipping to dead people. This is why they think catholics worship Mary.
Catholics and Protestants have spent too much time hating each other, insulting one another, and not communicating to even know what each other believes and why. It makes the devil sooooo happy to see millions of people who love Jesus, hate each other. Both catholics and Protestants believe that Jesus died on the cross for their sins and strive to have a close relationship with Him. And yet both will point the finger at the other and say they are all going to hell.
Where is the love that Jesus commands us to have for one another on BOTH sides?
I know this doesn't pertain to everyone on both sides, but it sure does to the majority. Just look at all the comments on this video.
The immaculate conception dogma is missing from the earliest patristic sources. Mary didn’t even enter into the picture of theological disputes of the church fathers until the upsurge of Christological heresies and the impulse of asceticism and monasticism in church history.
Catholic scholar, Ludwig Ott, admits: “Neither Greek nor Latin Fathers explicitly teach the Immaculate Conception of Mary” (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, Tan Publishers, 1960, p. 201)
The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967, 7:378-81) states that:
“…the Immaculate Conception is not taught explicitly in Scripture … the earliest church Fathers regarded Mary as holy but not as absolutely sinless … It is impossible to give a precise date when this belief was held as a matter of Faith, but by the 8th or 9th century, it seems to have been generally admitted…”
Even after then, controversies over this dogma raged on for a whole 1000 years with the Dominicans fighting the Franciscans over the issue. The so-called “infallible authority” of Rome was neutral on the issue.
Even a 19th century Catholic bishop admitted:
“The Church does not decide the controversy concerning the Conception of the Blessed Virgin, and several other disputed points, because she sees nothing clear and certain concerning them either in the written or unwritten Word, and therefore leaves her children to form their own opinions concerning them” (Cited in George Salmon, The Infallibility of the Church, 182)
This proves that this dogma was a very late development and had just been around only about 150 years. It can’t be supported either with the Bible or traditions.
@@wesleysimelane3423 Read the very next sentence in Ott's book: "Still, they teach it (Mary's Immaculate Conception) implicitly, in two fundamental notions:
A) Mary's most perfect purity and holiness (Ott verifies this by long quotes from St. Ephrem and St. Augustine)
B) The similarity and contrast between Mary and Eve (Ott quotes St. Ephrem, St Justin Martyr, St. Irenaeus, and Tertullian)
Read the actual Fathers of the Church and not what some protestant heretic tells you the Church teaches
@@LetTheTruthBeTold8324 Genesis 3:15
Can you quote a scripture on your immaculate deception .
You must not celebrate Christmas.
@@jennifertiemann6403 trick question.
@@jennifertiemann6403How are the two analogous? Catholicism teaches that the denial of its Marian dogmas is an anathema. Do you know of any Christians who believe you’re damned for denying the observance of Christmas?
@@jennifertiemann6403 Yes. Christmas is a pagan lie as well as easter.
It is nowhere
I love your bookcase of idolatry and graven images in the background. Speaks volumes.
He doesn't worship anything in his room. Those are nick-nacs and pictures of what's important to him. You don't have nick-nacs or pictures hanging up in your house?
Speaks volumes that you cannot comprehend the difference between imagery and idolatry.
It appears you are a green horn in your understanding of scripture.
So you obviously haven’t read the Bible as much as you think you have.
God told the Israelites to make statues, your literally so lost if you can’t tell the difference between art and idols
7:44 it says HE shall crush your head, not they.
The woman crushes the serpent through her seed. It’s something both do but the seed is the one that does this action
May God grant me clarity to unlearn all the anti-Catholic teachings that were pounded into my head as a child. Belief in the Immaculate Conception could also be traced back to the prophet Elijah. The Bible says that no one may enter the Kingdom who is sinful, and we know Elijah was taken up directly into heaven without suffering death, so it’s only right to imagine the Mother of God could also have some miraculous qualities that don’t pertain to logic or the rest of us.
Praise be to God! May the Holy Spirit lead you to the fullness of His truth.
@@NerdyCatholic2122 one can't follow Truth and be catholic -- they are opposed to each other.
@@tony1685one can’t not be Catholic and follow the truth, they are opposed to each other.
Catholic Church sit he church jays founded and gave authority to 😊❤
At 17:29, you make the assertion that she did not fear Gabriel's greeting. With all due respect, in the private revelation of Maria Valtorta's 'The Poem of the Man God,' at first, Mary was slightly fearful or at least concerned that the apparition could be a trick of the devil.
I'll do my best to look it up and edit it into this comment, soon as I can, (but I'm pretty swamped).
Private revelations of a saint or a blessed never overrule the teaching of the Church.
It is true that she instead of blindingly listening to the angel like Eve, she tested Gabriel with a question. But I doubt she was afraid
Maria Valtorta’s revelations have NOT been approved by The Church: there are many heresies in them-do some research-she was duped by the evil one.
In Luke she calls Jesus “My Lord and Savior”. You can’t call Jesus savior unless you are a sinner.
No Catholic is saying Jesus never saved her.
So impossible to receive grace and/or sanctification in vitro?
Revelation 12:6
6 and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days.
God hid her and protected her. To protect is saving or to prevent anything bad to happen.
She was saved before she was born. But she wasn’t aware of that.
Immaculate conception is rightly accepted until she gave birth to Jesus. But the Bible didn’t say that Mary was sinless all her life. And for that matter if she isn’t she’s doesn't come under human being for whom Jesus shed His blood and became a ransom. So you mean Jesus is not die for Mary as well.
Mary actually fulfilled perfectly what all humans are called to. Mary is fully human and fully divinized like ALL of us are called to be. The Blessed Mother is not Divine but divinized.
Didn't you hear what the presenter explained? God applied Jesus's atoning Death and Resurrection to Mary BEFORE She was conceived.
I've never seen a single scripture posted in a Catholic comment section, especially when it comes to Mary. The teachings, church dogma, and interpretations of man are put above the infallible written word of God.
Didn't you listen to this video?
FYI The Holy Bible is a declared Canon of the Catholic Church in the 4th century. It is also a Catholic doctrine infallibly declared by The Pope and its councils in the 4th century, it is nowhere found in scriptures. Mary is Immaculate because she was already full of grace and have found grace with God even before Jesus was born in the bubble of space and time (earth). Read the salutation of Angel Gabriel to Mary: "Hail full of grace... and Mary you have found grace with God" in LUKE 1:28-31
Very much so…..if you read the Catechism Of The Catholic Church you’ll see in the notes more references to it’s teachings and doctrines than you will see about in Scripture
incorrect view of Christ's one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Her cousin called her the Mother of My Lord.
@@anthonylowder6687because the Catholic Church literally compiled the Bible…
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If Mary was perfect and sinless, why did she need to offer up two turtledoves at the temple as sin offering after having a baby and going through the prescribed purification of the Law?
It is not a sin offering. It is a sacrificial offering following the law of the Lord about every male child who open the womb is holy to the Lord.
@ did the perfect Mary become unclean from her bleeding after having a child such as her monthly bleeding?
Did the perfect Mary become unclean from her monthly bleeding?
Did the perfect Mary have any monthly bleeding at all?
Sick
@@iggyantioch why is it sick? It just like any other woman, it a way of life.
Just asking legitimate questions.
@@MichaelWysocki-ks5xt:
I don't know why so many Protestants consider the presentation in the Temple as 'sin offering'.
Somebody must have put that idea into your head because you won't read it in St. Luke's Gospel!
Read Luke 2:22-39 again.
Do you see the words, or even the suggestion, of a 'sin offering'?
Mary and Joseph were presenting their first-born son;
"Every male opening the womb shall be called holy to the Lord"
They offered sacrifice "...as it is written in the law..."
"... And after they had performed all these things according to the law of the Lord, they returned to Galilee..."
They were a good, law abiding Jewish family.
The immaculate conception dogma is missing from the earliest patristic sources. Mary didn’t even enter into the picture of theological disputes of the church fathers until the upsurge of Christological heresies and the impulse of asceticism and monasticism in church history.
Catholic scholar, Ludwig Ott, admits: “Neither Greek nor Latin Fathers explicitly teach the Immaculate Conception of Mary” (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, Tan Publishers, 1960, p. 201)
The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967, 7:378-81) states that:
“…the Immaculate Conception is not taught explicitly in Scripture … the earliest church Fathers regarded Mary as holy but not as absolutely sinless … It is impossible to give a precise date when this belief was held as a matter of Faith, but by the 8th or 9th century, it seems to have been generally admitted…”
Even after then, controversies over this dogma raged on for a whole 1000 years with the Dominicans fighting the Franciscans over the issue. The so-called “infallible authority” of Rome was neutral on the issue.
Even a 19th century Catholic bishop admitted:
“The Church does not decide the controversy concerning the Conception of the Blessed Virgin, and several other disputed points, because she sees nothing clear and certain concerning them either in the written or unwritten Word, and therefore leaves her children to form their own opinions concerning them” (Cited in George Salmon, The Infallibility of the Church, 182)
This proves that this dogma was a very late development and had just been around only about 150 years. It can’t be supported either with the Bible or traditions.
Typology is good and useful and has scriptural roots for affirming theology, but if your only bases for a theology is typology than it’s objective opinion. Almost every typology of Christ has either a parable or plain teaching.
For example, Christ is the ram that replaced Issac, the teachers teach He was our sacrifice “And by that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.” Heb. 10:10
Look at All three passages? NONE TALK ABOUT MARYS CONCEPTION WITHOUT SIN!!!!!!! HOW DO YOU DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS
They are not "his" conclusions.
How could you scoffers listen to this teaching of the Church and draw YOUR own conclusions?
if I believe in this will i get into heaven
You can put an addition to the words she "is immaculately conceived" that do not come from scripture. With one of her most recognised appearances (Lourdes) she herself told Bernadette that SHE IS "I am the immaculate conception". So this has nothing to do with becoming an earthly human being in Elizabeths womb but with her general condition or state (by grace of god) from the beginning. This fits to your explaining god is out of time and space.
I take thousand year peace found in Revelation with teaching of God being omnipotent omnisciencent omnipresent, And relying on my witness to miracle of faith...believe that God has life for us where He will teach us in an after life in paradise similar to patriarch thousand year lifespan. So every thing denied or frustrated on earth can be experienced to help you grow as God wanted. Including a peaceful birth up to death experience. Including having a family with souls like Mary kept from sin. So to me Mary is foreshadowing of paradise waiting after this earth and before full rest in heaven with God.
Also for those already in heaven waiting on us, it says a thousand years is like a day to God, so that enrichment doesn't neglect heaven as really just like a day.
To me, the good thief only had to complete action to relinquish all disagreements with God to believe Jesus is Authority and Divine Mercy in every thing. That enabled him to enter Paradise with his limited understanding in why doing it God's way works the best. I feel as a loving family we want to help God and so allow understanding and divine revelation to form. I don't feel Purgatory frustrations help a soul...like good thief...heaven after death is available if able to separate yourself from the way you wish work to be done on earth. Have to allow God's Wisdom to be Higher than you.
First of all, I'm not a Catholic or a Protestant all I am is a Bible believer Bible obeying born-again Christian.
I agree with the Catholics what they say about Mary. Yes, she was born without sin as the RCC says, and known to be Immaculate Conceived but here is the shocking thing I'm going to say to all of you. She was not the only one who was Immaculate Conceived but everyone was, are, and will also. We were all born without sin just like Mary was.
From the Catholic Encyclopedia definition, we read this. The preservation and exemption of the Blessed Virgin Mary from every stain of original sin from the first moment of her conception we declare, pronounce, and define that the most holy Blessed Virgin Mary at the first instance of her conception was preserved Immaculate from all stains of original sin.
Now if I can prove to you what the Catholic Encyclopedia has defined Immaculate Conception to be is the same definition as what the Bible says about all of us that we are also preserved and exempt from every stain of original sin from the first moment of our conception. Will you concede that we also are Immaculate Conceived?
If I quote these two passages one in Psalm 139:13-14 “For You formed my inward parts; You covered me in my mother’s womb. I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Marvelous are Your works, And that my soul knows very well.” and this passage in Ezekiel 28:15 “You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you.” Would you say when it says “You formed my inward parts, and fearfully and wonderfully made, and “You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created” does it talk about Mary? Yes, right? Well, not only her but all of us my friend.
Now can I take the Catholic Encyclopedia definition and read it this way? The preservation and exemption of all babies from every stain of original sin from the first moment of our conception we declare, pronounce, and define that all at the first instance of our conception were preserved Immaculate from all stains of original sin. Can this also refer to all of us and those who are born today and will tomorrow? Most absolutely.
The Bible passages in Ezekiel 18 below prove we do not bear the guilt of Adam therefore his sin is not transferred onto us we are born sinless, holy, perfect, and spotless just like Mary was. When we get to the age of accountability and we know what is right and what is wrong we will sin and all have sinned and when we do we take responsibility for our actions not because of Adam's sin but by the choice we made.
Ezekiel 18:19-20 “Yet you say, ‘Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?’ Because the son has done what is lawful and right, and has kept all My statutes and observed them, he shall surely live. The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself."
Here are more Bible passages that will completely refute and debunk your notion that the RCC doctrine keeps saying that the Blessed Virgin Mary is the only human being born sinless when the Bible says everyone is born sinless.
Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them." Because we are born in the image of God who is HOLY HOLY HOLY then we also are born holy. If you say we are born with a sinful nature you are saying that God make us a sinner even before we are born that is blasphemy to the core. God created everything good and right never bad or wrong. Everything He creates is pure and perfect and never makes mistakes like some keep saying He made me that way as to say it is not my fault it is His. No, my friend, it is your fault for the choice you made take responsibility for your action and repent or you likewise will perish.
Ecclesiastes 7:29 "Truly, this only I have found: That God made man upright, But they have sought out many schemes.”
Matthew 18:2-6 Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me." If a child goes to heaven certainly a baby will also, therefore, were not born with a sinful nature.
Mark 10:13-16 Then they brought little children to Him, that He might touch them; but the disciples rebuked those who brought them. But when Jesus saw it, He was greatly displeased and said to them, “Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of God. Assuredly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means enter it.” And He took them up in His arms, laid His hands on them, and blessed them. Again if a child will go to heaven certainly a baby will also, therefore, were not born with a sinful nature.
Romans 9:11 "for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls."
Now let's bring this further in the future. This dogma of the Immaculate Conception was defined by Pius IX on December 8, 1854. As you can see it was all made up from the go by a man many centuries after Jesus Christ was ascended into heaven and where did this Pius get that idea from? Did he get it from some Mary's apparition where she said she was Immaculate Conceived or by twisting some Scriptures to come up with that idea?
Pius finally defined it on December 8, 1854, just before Mary said it herself at the grotto of Lourdes on 25 March 1858, when Saint Bernadette Soubirous asked the name of the mysterious Lady who appeared to her, she replied, “I am the Immaculate Conception.” That is odd Pius said it first before she said it. So he must have got that idea from twisting some Bible passages.
Now let's add this up. That could only prove it was not Mary who appeared to Saint Bernadette or ever appeared to any of all her apparitions past and future but it was Satan himself the angel of light. He wants to confirm her apparitions so you Catholics stay firm in her that since you love her so much and you seem not able to live without her or take her out of your mind that you pray, bow down, and worship her on your knees it was his way to make you believe more about her and keep in you so deep in the dark because he did not want to lose you.
Another reason it could not be Mary is because she knows we are all born without sin from what God says about us and why would she come and tell us a lie and go against the teaching of God's word that she is the only one sinless and nobody else. It would not make any sense and she would have sinned and now on her way to hell.
Just for me to prove the RCC doctrine of Immaculate Conception does not agree with what the Bible says is enough to show your doctrine is a lie. The Bible says that all liars will have their part in the lake of fire and it only takes one lie to end in hell. Now please stop lying you are in danger of going to hell with the rest of the Catholics. If you preach that lies and many lies of the RCC doctrine you will be responsible for sending many with you to hell. Read the Bible properly at its face value and in the context it was written. You have not studied the Bible enough my friend. Come to Christ not to Mary she is dead and her bones are still in the grave.
I'm neither, just like you. I've been studying where catholics got this concept from. From what they are saying, she's not just sinless from birth, but stays sinless due to being "full of grace". In the KJV in Luke, it says "highly favored". When I looked it up in the greek, I was surprised to learn it meant "full of grace", just like the catholics said.
@@jennifertiemann6403the problem is that the Bible doesn’t self-define “full of grace” as meaning “morally perfect / sinless.” That is simply the RCC’s interpretation of the phrase.
Was that quote by Luther before or after the church kicked him out? If before then of course he believed church teaching
Rev12:2
Mmm…since the “woman” of revelation 12 travailed in childbirth, this would suggest she still under the curse, and thus, if the “woman” is indeed mary, would argue against the RCC.. immaculate conception doctrine.
(don’t forget genesis3 :15-16)
Jesus still got tired, fatigued from work. Jesus still sweat, even to the sweating of Blood. Jesus's human nature still had to grow in wisdom and knowledge. He had a body in all things like ours, yet He had no sin. So, it's possible Mary shared in the physical weakness of our fallen state, yet remained sinless.
I'm sorry, I don't understand how Mary traveling while she's pregnant disproves immaculate conception. Everyone travels. Adam and eve traveled around the garden before they sinned. Jesus traved a lot.
Please explain.
Revelation 12 isn't Mary nor is Genesis 3:15
matthew 12:42 is NOT a foreshadowing of mary, that is a RIDICULOUS stretch of twisting scripture.
That’s what Catholic doctrine and dogmas do…..twist Scripture like a pretzel to confirm their man made beliefs and force people to accept it without question or they will be excommunicated from the Catholic Church
So Mary wasn’t a Jew??
literally if Mary could have been sinless, then God could have just done that for everyone and not have to take on flesh, come to the earth and pay the price for sin.
if anyone can be sinless without the death, burial and resurrection?
It is written in Ezekiel, that the only way God causes us to do His will is by giving us a new heart through salvation.
All you are saying is contradicting key tenants of the Christian faith. God is consistent and never the author of confusion
You say that God gave it to her, then He did to Abraham. But he was born a sinner too. It’s so sad that you don’t see how inconsistent your logic is. Abraham,
Ps. Sadly, you are picking all these scriptures out of context.
Saying it over and again doesn’t make true.
Didn't you HEAR the presenter say God applied the grace from Jesus's holy Death and Resurrection to Mary BEFORE She was conceived?
Yes, God COULD HAVE done that to ANYONE, but He foresaw that if He did us that favor, WE WOULD STILL SIN. GOD FORESAW *MARY* IS THE ONLY MERE HUMAN BEING WHO WOULD REMAIN SINLESS IF SHE WERE CONCEIVED WITHOUT ORIGINAL SIN. Without Mary, God would not have created the Universe, because without Mary, He could not have been born as a Man to redeem it.
Good point about "then Mary could have died for our sins".
The argument is that Jesus took on all our sins onto himself as the sacrificial lamb. All the worlds sins to where God could not even look at him because Jesus took all the sin onto himself. Mary couldn't do that because she was 100% mortal. No mortal could ever withstand the sin of the whole world through all of time. Jesus didn't just die in the present, he died for all of time. To take on the sin through all of time would require the power of God.
@@jennifertiemann6403also Mary is only saved by sin through Jesus future sacrifice.
The dogma was proclaimed by Pope Pius IX in 1854...and not 1954
The immaculate conception dogma is missing from the earliest patristic sources. Mary didn’t even enter into the picture of theological disputes of the church fathers until the upsurge of Christological heresies and the impulse of asceticism and monasticism in church history.
Catholic scholar, Ludwig Ott, admits: “Neither Greek nor Latin Fathers explicitly teach the Immaculate Conception of Mary” (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, Tan Publishers, 1960, p. 201)
The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967, 7:378-81) states that:
“…the Immaculate Conception is not taught explicitly in Scripture … the earliest church Fathers regarded Mary as holy but not as absolutely sinless … It is impossible to give a precise date when this belief was held as a matter of Faith, but by the 8th or 9th century, it seems to have been generally admitted…”
Even after then, controversies over this dogma raged on for a whole 1000 years with the Dominicans fighting the Franciscans over the issue. The so-called “infallible authority” of Rome was neutral on the issue.
Even a 19th century Catholic bishop admitted:
“The Church does not decide the controversy concerning the Conception of the Blessed Virgin, and several other disputed points, because she sees nothing clear and certain concerning them either in the written or unwritten Word, and therefore leaves her children to form their own opinions concerning them” (Cited in George Salmon, The Infallibility of the Church, 182)
This proves that this dogma was a very late development and had just been around only about 150 years. It can’t be supported either with the Bible or traditions.
Im arguing with a Prot on the translation of St. Jerome on kecharitomene. To the latin
He says St Jerome erred.
Any thoughts?
Don't argue with him. He is not going to change his mind unless God softens his heart.
You could say you believe what the Church has taught about Mary for centuries, not what protestants say today. The essential difference between prots and Catholics is that we look to the Church for the correct teaching. They look to their denomination or their own interpretation of scripture. We have unity, they have disunity even among themselves over many doctrines.
It seems like someone would have corrected Jerome at the time he wrote the translation. Why is it only today's protestants who object to the translation of kecharitomene?
Ty
Merry Christmas
I'm from a Catholic background. The Immaculate Conception of Mary, The Conception of Jesus without a male imput, The Assumption and The Ascension are all fictional. It's fine to be a Catholic, a Protestant, a Muslim, a Jew et al provided that you don't take these things seriously.
also jonah was NOT a foreshadowing of Christ, only an event in his life used as a comparison of Jesus death.
With god anything possible its in kjv god split the red sea, god told sarah she would bare a child age 90 years old, jesus walked on water, jesus Turned water to wine, he made Adam and eve from dirt,
Was Mary's mother a virgin too? how does Mary's dad fit into the situation?
God prevented the stain of sin prior to her conception
Her parents have nothing to do with it.
Normal marital relationship.
Don't put restrictions on God. He operates outside space time.
Read the dogma by the author Pope Pious the ninth.
It's all there in his words.
No, Mary's mother, Anna, was not a virgin, and her father did 'fit into the situation' in the usual, fartherly way.
@@iggyantioch Said no scripture ever.
@@alhilford2345 Another lie from catholics is Mary' mother's name, Anna. A complete fabrication.
@@Lone_Painter
Yes I agree
I reject Bible only.
The premise that it's mandatory to be explicit in scripture alone is unbiblical in itself.
Peace
Merry Christmas.
In context, God was speaking of and to Eve throughout Genesis 3: 14-20, not another woman.
The seed of the Serpent is the lie/deceit and the seed of the woman would be the Truth (Jesus). Meaning: out of the loins of Eve (the mother of all living) would come forth the Truth.
Mary was a young girl (alma) when she had conceived Jesus by the Holy Spirit.
Genesis 3:15 is in NOWAY shape or form speaking of Mary
Genesis 3:15 is in every way shape and form speaking of Mary.
Your blinded
Can't be true rt?
Cause if it is then you have to come home to the Catholic Church.
Listen I get it. I don't like being told I'm wrong either but I was and now I ask you to consider it. For 1600 years this was held by everyone. Try to be open minded.
Peace
Merry Christmas
Great summary overall. FYI, Solomon wasn't David's 1st son (4:55). Always double-check your Scripture. Little slip ups like that betray "junior scholar" status.
Romans 3:18 Doesnt say mary was an immaculate conception.
She never was
no serious protestant scholar expouses the heresy of the immaculate conception because there is no biblical support whatsoever.
Martin Luther believed in the immaculate conception, and he was the first one to leave the catholic church. He's the one who started the whole Protestant Reformation.
@@jennifertiemann6403first one to leave the Catholic Church? I hate to break it to you but people have been leaving the Catholic Church since it started.
You say us catholics are required to believe this dogma.. I don't believe God requires belief in this, and I, not the church, decide what I believe. The catholic church can't force anyone to believe anything. This is no more than a theory. Why would she need to be conceived without sin? The idea of The Lord coming into the world was to free us from eternal punishment from sin. It's He who is perfect and born without sin. No-one else, including his mother, had to be free from sin when she was born. It's just a theory.
I wish people would just let her rest in peace. I think she's done enough!
"Enmity," "Full of Grace," "overshadowed," these are all studies in semantics. The theology of the Trinity, while not found in the Bible, is a compilation of Holy Scripture, not just a personal interpretation of words in the Bible. I have no problem with a person wishing to believe this is how the incarnational God put a barrier between Himself and sinful human nature, but to require this as a universal belief of the church, is inappropriate. Where God placed the barrier, either in himself, or His mother, or His Grandmother, for that fact, is not what salvation is about, but pure speculation.
Who says that these interpretations are eisegesis in nature.?
Quite the opposite.
Also the church has Dogmas for a reason. It's deeper than just cause I wanna.
There is no real scriptural reference to any of the 4 Marian dogmas
👉"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." -1 John 1:8
"for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God" -Romans 3:23
"Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and doesn’t sin." -Ecclesiastes 7:20
"Behold, I was born in iniquity. My mother conceived me in sin." -Psalm 51:5
"...There is no one who does good, no, not one." -Psalm 14:3
👉From the mouth of Jesus himself:
"...No one is good except one-God." -Mark 10:18
👉From the mouth of Yahweh himself:
"...the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth..." -Genesis 8:21
⚠️"But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you any “good news” other than that which we preached to you, let him be cursed." -Galatians 1:8
Really? all ?
Did you watch the video?
Psalm 51. So in sin The Virgin conceived?
@iggyantioch If I pray to God alone I cannot go wrong. If praying to the saints, angels or Mary is wrong (& I believe it is) you will not enter the kingdom! Is it really worth it? If God is not answering your prayers, you think he's going to answer them because you bypass Him and try to go through someone else? Pray to the Creator, not the created!
@@Belief_Before_Glory
Ok .
Thanks for the response.
I pray to God directly.
Through the one Mediator Jesus Christ.
I ask others to pray with and for me
Intecessors.
Both are scriptural
And do not contradict scripture.
Seriously will you please pray for me as my brother in Christ 🙏
I will pray for you!
@@Belief_Before_Glory
This might give some context.
We are One Family in Christ in Heaven and on Earth
Eph. 3:14-15- we are all one family (“Catholic”) in heaven and on earth, united together, as children of the Father, through Jesus Christ. Our brothers and sisters who have gone to heaven before us are not a different family. We are one and the same family. This is why, in the Apostles Creed, we profess a belief in the “communion of saints.” There cannot be a “communion” if there is no union. Loving beings, whether on earth or in heaven, are concerned for other beings, and this concern is reflected spiritually through prayers for one another.
Eph. 1:22-23; 5:23-32; Col. 1:18,24 - this family is in Jesus Christ, the head of the body, which is the Church
@@iggyantioch Friend, I don't know you but I love you. Praying for one another is good. Bowing the knee or praying to anyone but God AND GOD ALONE is not good (not even archangels!). That's all, please heed this advice as we are ALL servants of God! ♥️
That's a lot of theological acrobatics. Maybe. The mystery of Mary clearly indicates a devine special graceful presence that very much deserves high respect and love as she was the earthly mother of our lord. But as a fully human person, the mystery itself seems to be an argument of degrees rather than either or.
Yes, the Catholic church is elevating Mary to a God-like status. They make her into someone that is omni-present as if she can be everywhere and answer everyone's prayers. The Bible shows that only God is omni-present, not even the angels, or Satan is omni-present. Nearly every teaching about Mary in the Catholic church is meant to elevate her to a status that is a divine-like status and not a human status.
Kojow, catholics don't believe Mary is divine at all. They reiterate that all the time. They don't worship Mary and find that accusation insulting to their Love of the Trinity. They don't believe that Mary is omni-present. They believe she is in Heaven. They don't pray in worship to her, they simply pray in speaking to her. They believe in pray speaking to any dead person in Heaven. This is not worship. They ask the different dead people to talk to God and Jesus for them in the same exact way you would ask another person to pray for you. If you're protestant, then pray speaking to the dead would be very strange to you.
Also with the "how can Mary hear everyone who is talking to her' thing, things work differently in Heaven. Every one of your 5 senses work differently, including your mind. Research people who have died, gone to Heaven, and come back. You'll see what I mean.
@@jennifertiemann6403 Here's the thing, you gave me the words of Jennifer, rather than the words of the Bible. You need to back up what you said with scripture.
When Catholics teach that Mary had no sin, that is elevating her above human status. The Bible says that all have sinned except for Jesus.
When Catholics teach that we can ask dead people for help, there is nothing Biblical about this. The Bible says we are not to attempt communicating with dead people.
When Catholics say that Mary did not die but was assumed into heaven, there is nothing Biblical about this.
The only reason for Catholics to come up with false teachings like this in regards to Mary is because they try to idolize her.
Catholics are unable to see that the reason all these teachings about Mary that are not Biblical is because she has been idolized in the Catholic church.
You lost me from the get go? You describe a scenario that leaves no possibilty of her having free will, so obvious that you respond she has free will? The math is not working in my head ?? I need an explaination of how both can be true?? Logically please!
Mary had free will. She could have said yes or no. The fact that God knew what the answer would be does not take away from the freedom and courage it took to say yes. The fact that Mary was willing to undertake all that being the virgin mother of the savior would entail is absolutely amazing.
@iggyantioch he says she was kept from sin and predisposed with concupecsiece. No desire to sin ! How can that coexist with, free will. Its right at the begginning of video. Rewatch and explain to me.
verbal gymnastics
Why would Luther's beliefs rock your world. Just shows your span of belief in the Holy Word.
I thought jesus came to conquer sin , if mary was immaculatly concieved, what part of jesus would truly be human. Im still listening but making me confused ! You even took jesus free will away?IMO .
This question is answered in the 4 th century.
There's a lot of good treatment on this from bothe Catholic and protestant
I don’t understand how it rocked your world…
Revelations states do not add to or take away from the Bible or .........
@darrellperez1029 there is ONE In every crowd huh!!!!
@darrellperez1029Deuteronomy 4:2"You shall not add to the word of God... nor take away from it." Protestants threw away 7 books, and parts of others, from the Bible.
Jesus used and quoted from the Septuagint Bible. The rabbi-made Masoretic text that protestants use didn't exist until about a hundred years AFTER Jesus ascended into Heaven.
Where does the Bible say, "The Bible alone is the sole Word of God"?
The Bible NEVER SAYS THAT.
Instead, the Bible says, "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God."
Protestants don't have EVERY WORD, because they THREW AWAY the oral teaching Jesus gave His Apostles, known as DIVINE TRADITION.
2Thessalonians2:15 says "Hold fast to the Traditions you have received from us, whether by WORD OF MOUTH *or* by letter."
What part of the New Testament did Peter preach from on the first Pentecost Sunday?
No book of the New Testament would be written for 15 years, and the last book would not be written for at least 7 decades.
The Church had gone through the persecution of Nero ~ A.D. 68 in which St. Peter and St. Paul were killed BEFORE the New Testament was entirely written.
The Bible would not be compiled into one book until the Catholic bishops met in A.D. 382 at the Council of Rome under Pope Damasus I.
Thousands of martyrs died in 3 centuries of persecutions BEFORE the Bible existed as one book!
No one in the early Church believed in "Bible alone" because THERE WAS NO BIBLE. There were over 300 texts claiming to be Scripture before the Council of Rome decided which books WERE Scripture.
For instance, the letter of Pope St. Clement, third successor to St. Peter, was still being read as Scripture in the Corinthian Church until Pope Damasus I said it was not Scripture.
Jesus gave His Apostles and their successors authority to interpret Scripture through the Holy Spirit.
He NEVER gave that authority to YOU, or *any protestant*
Does Jesus teach that y'all should insult each other? Come on. We're all called to love one another.
So Mary did not have a natural father?
Whatever made you ask that?
@@wms72 That is the only way she could have bypassed the sin nature.
It's because she was full of grace.
That's what the king james version in Luke when it says "highly favored", the greek means full of grace.
Why did Mary have to be Immaculate?
Shee didn't.
But it was fitting.
Talk to God.
Or his rep on earth The Catholic Church
Why was the Ark of the Covenant lined with gold?
Because it was designed to contain Aaron's rod (the way), the tablets of the Commandments (the truth )and the manna from heaven (the life).
Why was Mary totally sinless?
Because she was designed to contain Our Lord Jesus Himself, the Word made flesh.
The Way, the Truth and the Life.
Our Lady is the Ark of the New Covenant.
Baloney!!!!! bad context, bad hermeneutics bad exegesis I just waisted my few minutes of my life listening to you.
if this is true the Mary had to be born of a virgin and her mother was born of a virgin in an unbroken line all the way back to Eve
There are 0 passages from any of the apostles using typology from the Old Testament to talk about Mary. All typology, prophecy, symbolism in the Bible is about Christ and no one else. Even Christ Himself said this
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
John:5:39
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Luke:24:25-27
Now show me where any apostle or writter of the new testament says similar doctrinal things about Mary?
Is nonexistant.
I think this is very bad hermeneutics and it distorts the Bible completedly in other words false teaching. God bless.
Luke deliberately wrote about Mary's trip to the hill country to.visit Elizabeth as a parallel to Samuel's account of the Ark in the hill country.
Mary was sinless as God himself is sinless. Therefore Jesus was destined to be born sinless. That is the only way to ensure His mission could not be subjected to any valid scrutiny. This was the threat He posed to Jerusalem. He was and is the ultimate arbiter of truth. His frustration was knowing that those who's motives He questioned would not come back into the fold. They had forgotten or chosen to ignore the laws of God long ago. A battle won by a malo, but not the war. Thou shalt not kill Thou shall not covet. Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Thou shall not make unto thee a graven image.
That only works if Mary's parents and grandparents and great parents and....so on....were also conceived immaculately.
No .
Read more about that from a reputable Catholic source.
No it doesn't.
@alhilford2345 original sin is inherited through conception, which means Mary's patents were carriers. Unless Mary was conceived without intercourse, which would make in another incarnation.
No it doesn’t.
*Immaculate conception of Mary*
This dogma means Mary was conceived without sin. she had neither original sin nor personal sin.
The doctrine can be formulated by studying the typology in the old testament.
We believe that the original sin is transmitted through flesh and blood from Adam and Eve to their progeny.
So, if Mary had inherited the original sin from her parents, then Jesus too will inherit it from Mary because Jesus took his flesh and blood from her. However, we all believe Jesus was without sin. This begs the question of where and how did the transmission of the original sin stop in the case of Jesus.
Catholics believe the New Testament is superior to the Old Testament.
In the Old Testament, we have Adam and Eve created without sin. In the New Testament, we have Jesus and Mary.
If Jesus is the new Adam and Mary is the new Eve, we believe Jesus and Mary will be superior to / better than Adam and Eve and so they must be without sin.
Adam and Eve succumbed to temptation. The serpent defeated them. But we read that the devil could not tempt Jesus when he was fasting in the desert for 40 days. We read in Revelation chapter 12 that the Woman defeated the dragon, meaning the Dragon could not make Mary fall into sin. Mary had defeated the Dragon, the ancient Serpent.
So if Mary is superior to Eve, it means that there is no sin in Mary.
In Luke gospel we read that Angel Gabriel addressed Mary as hail full of grace (hail, highly favoured one in Protestant Bible) even before Mary had said anything. This indicated that God had bestowed full of grace (overflowing grace) on Mary right from her conception.
Paul said that God's grace is sufficient for him to overcome the affliction of the thorn in his flesh.
Now, if we are to believe God's grace can help us overcome trials and temptations, won't God's full of grace keep Mary free from all sins and temptations? In Revelation chapter 12, the woman received outside help such that the dragon could not defeat her. This outside help is God's intervention, God's grace.
God preserved and protected Mary for the sake of Jesus.
God will not be mocked, right? So, God will not let the Devil mock him by saying that he had defeated Jesus' mother Mary. For the sake of his own honour, God will create Mary immaculate and keep her free from original sin or personal sin.
Catholics view Mary as the Ark of the New Covenant. She had in her womb Jesus Christ the word of God, Jesus Christ the high priest, and Jesus Christ who gave his flesh for us to eat. This corresponds to the Old Ark of the Covenant which had the stone tablets of the 10 commandments, Aaron's stick that sprouted leaves, and the manna.
The Ark was so holy that those 70 men who had peeped into it were instantly killed by God. In another instance, a man who tried to catch hold of the Ark from falling from a moving bullock cart was also instantly killed by God. So, if the Old Ark is so holy because of God's presence overshadowing it such that defiled hands can't touch it due to God's protection, the holy spirit who overshadowed Mary will keep her holy and undefiled as well.
Israelites took the Ark of the covenant box to war. Mary is waging war against the dragon to protect us which we read in Revelation chapter 12.
For Isaiah to prophesy the coming of Jesus Christ, in a vision, the lips of Isaiah was cleansed with a live coal taken from the temple in heaven.
To be the forerunner of Jesus Christ, John the Baptist was filled with the holy spirit even from his mother's womb.
Thus, if God has taken this much of care to make Isaiah and John the Baptist holy in order to prepare the way for Jesus, how much more will he keep Mary holy such that she will be fit to bear the holy child Jesus? Catholics view that it is most fitting that holy things be kept in a holy vessel. Thus, Mary must be made fit to bear the holy child Jesus. With God's full of grace, she defeated the dragon.
Eve brought hate, sin, enmity and death but Mary brought redemption, life, love, peace and joy through her son Jesus.
Mary is immaculate, the masterpiece of God.
esctituras , escrituras
If Christ, God Himself needed to be born from a sinless virgin in order to be sinless himself ....... shouldnt Mary have had to be born from a sinless virgin herself in order to be free of sin and so on with her mom and grandma etc. This is illogical and crazy lol there was no need for Mary to be without sin, sin comes from the headship of Adam not Eve so the woman really is along for the ride as a sinner but really is the man as headship of the creation of God that is responsible for sin thats why Mary had to be a virgin because the headship providing the seed was God Himself a perfect sinless headship.
No and the reason is God is not bound by that logic. God chose Mary and gave her the “future” grace. And that is enough. No need to carry on backward. You use human logic but you don’t see that it is unnecessary that Mary’s parent don’t have to be sinless? Because Grace from God can be anytime, any moment, any person. Yes, Mary’s parent were good people ( and lived a sainthood life). But they’re not necessary to be sinless. Just Mary because that part of God’s plan.
I think a more logical argument to your post (which was a good point) was that all babies are born sinless. There are a ton of verses in the Bible that backs this up. Someone posted them all in the video comments. So mary was born sinless like the rest of us. (That's why babies and children go to Heaven if they die) The immaculate part is her being full of grace which keeps her sinless. Eve was born and lived with no sin, and then chose to sin. Mary was born and lived with no sin, and chose not to sin. Mary was only a teenager when she had Jesus, so it's not like she had lived a long time when she became pregnant. The Holy Spirit overshadowing her had to also effecr her. Then giving birth and raising the Son of God would also effect her. For 33 years she was with Jesus. Then after Jesus died, she was with John, who took care of her. Imagine if you were in that situation. All that would affect you in the most positive way imaginable. You wouldn't want to sin. You would choose not too. Hanging out with Jesus everyday who is half man half God is a pretty huge anti-sinning motivation. When Gabriel spoke with her he knew she was full of grace. Which proves right away that she's different.
no biblical support whatsoever for the heresy of the catholic immaculate conception.
No such thing as immaculate conception in the bible: to say such a thing is to nullify what the bible says in, Roman's 3:23! To say that Mary lived her entire life, perfect and witout sin, is like making the Spirit of God into a liar, since only Jesus lived a sinless life! Please don't lie to people,with such heresy?
Also Mary was born from Mans Seed, Adams Seed the Corrupted Seed!!!!!! Hiw was she sinless!!!!! 9:42
9:54 you are tge one cherry picking Noo read that text please dont pick to suit you
😢Romans 3:23
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
All means all !
Even Adam and Eve? Or what about Christ in the flesh? Or what about babies or people who are mentally handicapped? Also it’s important to add that Paul is making a case that there is no distinction between Jews and gentiles and he means sin characterizes both Jews and gentiles. Paul also recognizes later in Roman’s that babies have not yet committed personal sin when he speaks of Jacob and Esau (Romans 9:11) hope this helps
Bible is full of "rabbinic hyperbole"
St. Augustine, bishop of Hippo, said something like: "All have sinned" but the Mother of God is another story.
Rememeber whem your mother used to say cause i said so! Seems the same with catholics. Yeah lets get closer to jesus all the distractions are not neccessary?
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What a crock. You have proven nothing. You quote the church fathers and Luther. You twist scripture to your own end. Jesus didn’t teach it nor did His apostles. You base your beliefs on interpretation by stirring your beliefs into a certain direction. Stop lying about scripture. You just use man’s words and not GOD’s. That is why I left the RCC. Your church is built on deception. Repent. GOD alone matters. Mary and your saints and you and I are nothing compared to GOD.
It’s shocking how unintelligent and unknowledgeable, and a complete abuse of the word of God to justify Marian worship.
It’s shocking how you’re unintelligent. This ain’t Marian worship 💀
Do you know how Mary was saved by sin? Through Jesus’ future sacrifice. 💀
Do you think people worship Enoch because his stance is surprisingly like Mary’s…
😂😂🤣
Not true. For that to be true everyone in Marys bloodline would have had to have been perfect and without sin
So Mary had sin in her. A filthy vessel for Christ? Lol
So weak.
@@iggyantiochyes. Of course she was full of sin, because non were sinless but Christ.
Not only that but Christ was born into a world of sin, that was perfect but was defiled by humans.
Not only that but few in his lifetime even hailed him as king.
He was given a crown of thorns. His followers were killed.
Her sinfulness should not surprise you. But you have learned to worship Mary rather than Christ therefore his words confuse you.
Christ nor His apostles taught this doctrine. Her conception and birth is not mentioned in Scripture. This is a false doctrine of the catholic church.
You have not listened attentively to the exposition. Ask God to open up your heart and mind to His Grace.
@@mabeatrizcarranza5980 I know Scripture very well and there in mention of Mary's conception nor birth. Not even a hint.
please study the Scripture and see if this doctrine is support by Scripture. You will find that it is not and therefore is to be rejected.
@@Justas399 so narrow minded. Pray your eyes and heart open. It is in scripture but you don't read or understand or blind
@@gtobs3181 Not narrow minded but truth and biblically minded. Don't be deceived by this doctrine.
@Donald Lumpkin But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.
- 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17
No one in the New Testament thought Jesus turned Himself into a piece of bread at His supper. No one taught that Christ had 4 natures instead of 2.
You people are really crazy to believe something like that. Repent.
You people?
Crazy?
Like What ?
Oh you mean giving you Christianity, the Sacred Scriptures?
Crazy like that?
Well then yes.😅
This is bollocks
If, according to the Bible, that Jesus had brothers and sisters, it just shows that God allowed Joseph and Mary to lead a normal Jewish family life while Jesus was growing up. Joseph must have supported his family while working as a carpenter and Mary was a housewife taking care of Jesus and her other children at home.