Tumblr's $6000 Scam: The Story of All or Nothing
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An outgoing asexual and a pan person who hates everybody? You mean SpongeBob and Squidward? Yeah, they're still making that show.
I choked on my drink.
Legendary comment.
You just woke up today and chose violence didn’t you
Woah
You absolute legend
You complete and absolute intellectual
I feel like Friends was pitched at “straight people are roommates” and it got 9 seasons
i was gonna joke that friends can be summarized by that “and they were roommates!” vine but now i’m imagining that the woman on the phone was actually talking about characters from friends as she’d only just recently watched any of the show
Phoebe was bi and we all know it
Chandler Bing was actually originally meant to be gay, and that plan went all the way through production on the pilot.
@@e-jthompson6322 I mean, isn't that cannon? I'd swear I remember her hitting on women throughout the series.
@@jamesanthony5874 id call that unintentional canon
The "outgoing" ace leaning over with their arms limp and a goofy, almost crazed, grin on their face is oh so very tumblr.
It matches tumblr's understanding of extroverts pretty well
manic pixie dream ace
Having trouble understanding this comment can you elaborate lol
@@smulligan Extroverts don't act like the art's ace character. They're just confident, not crazy.
@@snkybrki Extroversion doesn't even mean confidence, it just means hanging out with people is what makes you energized, contrary to introverts who progressively get drained by interaction. It doesn't mean you can't be a shy or socially anxious extrovert, or an outgoing introvert
“The characters are described by nothing except their sexualities and the thinnest veneer of what could be called a personality. Perfect, this needs to be a show” never change tumblr.
That's one of my (many) issues with the community of LGBT.
I have absolutely no hate to people of alternative sexual orientation. But I hate the community because it doesn't do real people justice.
It went from a support system for suffering people trying to literally just live, into something like a cult where the loudest few drag everyone else down their own personal paths.
They make everything about sexuality, never about the people themselves. The cute idea of two opposites being roommates is nice. If it expanded on their life of growing up together or how they met and deciding to help one another; ie, get the one to have more confidence and get the other to pipe down a bit for serious situations. Growing together as friends would've been great.
But it never changes from just being about sexual attraction, which is not great.
@@dusk4974 So you don't hate LGBTQ+ people, you just hate the community we made to support eachother, all because some of the members highlight their sexuality, nevermind that it's something straight people do all the time?
Yeah, if you're standing outside the building all you're going to be able to hear are the people yelling. You have to actually go inside and interact with people to hear those who are speaking at a normal volume...
As for dragging people down paths, let's discuss those who insist that we are only acceptable if we're quiet and unobtrusive. (ʘᴗʘ✿)
Be gay. Do crime. We don't exist to make you comfortable, and our self acceptance movement isn't tailored to your delicate sensibilities, it's designed to counteract centuries of erasure, shame, and violence pointed at us for "daring" to have an "alternative sexual orientation".
@@the_last_ballad that's not what I was saying at all??
It's not good when ANYONE makes their whole personality about their orientation.
I said alternative sexual orientation because I myself am straight, ergo, gay people are the alternative orientation to me, as I would be to them.
What I was saying about dragging people down the path they're not meant to go on is when those loud few assholes push new people down their personal paths instead of letting those people find their own.
I'm not saying that anyone gay should be "quiet" I'm saying that it's sad that the sexuality of this Tumblr idea was the only thought, not the actual possible people.
I also never said other people need to pander to me to make me comfortable? Not once in my og comment. You added that to be mad.
It's not about some members "highlighting" their sexuality. It's about those asshole few who try to force it on other people. And yes, those few do exist.
My issue with the community is what it's become, not what it's MEANT to be. I used to be in it, I know what I'm talking about. It was meant to be, and it WAS, about supporting one another and being happy and outspoken about who you are no matter what. It was the personal aspect of helping one another. Now it's become like a cult.
I happened to be stuck in one of those bad groups. I was pushed into claiming I was asexual and aromantic because it made them stop asking, made them stop harassing me to pick. And every time I was asked what I was sexuality wise, it was always on the context of being gay, not straight ally. When I told a friend in that group I was actually straight, she literally scoffed at me and told me I was wrong.
THOSE are the groups I have an issue with. The ones who take young teens trying to find themselves and push those teens down a path that isn't one that teen chose. But instead the group's decision for them.
That's what I said before.
@@the_last_ballad exactly, i hate when people say "i'm lgbt/an ally but i hate the community" as if the entire community is like that, like it's literally an infinite minority of people who are toxic but people act like the entirety of the lgbt community is some cultish cesspool, or that if you dare speak about your sexuality at all in any sort of positive way you're "making it your whole personality" like god forbid people be proud? it's a part of what makes you you, you should be allowed to make it part of your personality and it not be something to be ashamed of
i mean to be fair it just started as a basic concept, i'm sure the characters would have more personality if this were ever to actually be a show
The premise of "All or Nothing" probably would have worked better as a web comic.
yess omg someone write that ahaha
i was thinking that from the beginning
Honestly, with way more time, the amount they raised might have even been enough for some UA-cam animators to make something really decent, especially if they added a Patreon after the first episode or something.
i mean yea, but i feel like there's a lot more representation in comics like if you read Webtoons or something because they're each made by like, only a couple people, and not popularly known. i think what people wanted was more mainstream representation. i think it's great though that i can actually find a lot of web comics that explore a wide range of identities
I recommend watching the webseries that actually got made.
I was yelling “Just make a webcomic” at the screen during the first bit. This didn’t need to be a series it would have worked perfectly well as a webcomic
YES!! I know making a webcomic is difficult, especially when working alone, but I would have read the SHIT out of it if it were a well thought out webcomic/webtoon
I didn’t realize it wasn’t going to be a webcomic until the list of supplies they were going to buy happened.
Making a webcomic is exhausting but so is a web series so idk 🤷
Yeah, its a genuinely cute idea and a webcomic would fit a lot better than a cartoon imo.
While making a webcomic is also a grind, it costs people 0$ to make one (unless you hire an artist and other staff). They could've perfectly made it a webcomic, but I guess that since it was 2014 and Webtoons wasn't the juggernaut that it is today that never crossed their mind.
PoV: You're late for work and the Panera barista won't stop talking about Tumblr history
I'm SCREEEAAAMINNGGG 🤣🤣🤣🤣
GIRL BYE--
im fucking dead
“could- could you just hand me my drink? no? okay.”
She holding my coffee hostage
The image of a few teenagers asking for a paltry $600 to buy a camera and make a small series is very cute. Them getting 10x their pledge goal and not having a bank account to hold it in is just adorable. I love this story. I think if they had said up front they were amateurs, people might have still donated to help some artsy kids and wouldn't have hounded them for the nothingburger it turned out to be.
Their trusted adult draining that entire $6000 without consulting them and probably never paying them back, leaving them to deal with the backlash? Yeah that's unbelievably messed up.
Yeah why didn’t they pay the kids back wtf
@@ravenkelly2887 because if they didn't have 6k to pay their bills they're not gonna have 6k to pay back a kid
@@jessetorres9502 not just a kid, it’s a kid who didn’t even make that money in the first place and just took it from a bunch of strangers lol
@@froggy5748 the strangers gave it to them
@@mallowemery8196 how is a family member supposed to know that? All they know is that a family member just put 6k into their account and they need to pay their bills. If that story is even real, anyway
the way the "extrovert" was drawn just really showed that no one on tumblr knew how extroverts act alksjdfklasjdf
I mean 'extroverts' are basically a cryptid right? I mean, I've never seen one >.>
I'm convinced that "introvert/extrovert" is one of the least helpful pop-psychology concepts to ever get out. Results in a LOT of people flattening human tendencies to a binary system that sometimes has some weasel "ambivert" thing instead of actually exploring people. Lot of people cutting themselves off from expressing themselves a certain way because "well I'm an introvert and introverts don't do that" sorta talk.
@@Exarian Whaaaaaaat? That's _crazy_, you expect me to believe the world is more complicated than people who don't have fun at parties and people who pretend to have fun at parties?
@@Exarian Right! Same with the Myers-Brigg nonsense.
What? No! I’m pretty sure that’s what outgoing people do. They go to social events and stare at each other like they’re a 20oz ribeye steak.
At least I’m pretty sure. I look at people and get nervous so extroverts must love staring at people.
If I had a nickel for every tumblr animation scam based on a popular text post I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't much, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Ok but this is too funny
Oh my God Miss Officer and truffles or whatever it was called lmao
I need a followup on Miss Officer and Mr Truffles
@@clawtooth35 izzyzz did a video on it! If you like tumblr/ internet culture you should give her a watch
Ha! I understood that reference!
If the story about the loss of funds is true, I wonder which option is worse:
- the person didn't know about the campaign and thought these 6000dollars were the kid's personal earnings/savings and willingly stole from a child
- the person knew about the campaign and willingly stole from a LOT of strangers and left a child to deal with the consequences.
Either way: yikes.
/big yikes when i heard about it! And from the post the family member made the poster feel really bad as well
@@jenniferchaulam probably guiltriping them saying: you know i need this money! I have a lot of bills!! You should be less selfish.
Or there was no other person and people on indigogo were grifted again like usual.
Definitely the first one, I know so many parents that did this shit
yeah I can't get over the fact that someone just flat out STOLE 6000 dollars. like WHAT? Emergency? how convenient that 6000 dollars hit right when that happened...
I feel kinda bad for the original person tbh. Like i thought she just took the money and ran. But a family member they trusted just stole it all. That must have been so horrible for them.
Imagine she lied about the family member.
@@riannameddar Maybe. It's very plausible though, and most non-Tumblr users try not to assume the worst of people lol.
@@jfm14 when it comes to people taking money without delivering on their promise? it's fair to not believe everything blindly
@@jfm14 pu
@@washambiswimp714 But there was no reason to lie about that
The idea of a girl recapping old internet history is so fun. Someone should make a sitcom about that.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Personally I'm a fan of videos covering awful web series that did get made.
Let’s do it-
@@JacksonBockus OHO i am interested in said videos where do i find them
I vote we hire Toby to the writing staff
two youtubers can't cover the same topic?? shit, gonna have to scrap that 1 hour 45 minute video I made on DestielGate...
I have nothing to say but I want to be the first comment considering you commented 5 minutes ago.
I would be thrilled to hear your research and opinions on the same topics. You and Sara are both awesome, and I'm certain we'd all watch both videos.
thems the rules
I would actually like to see a collab video from you two, to be honest. :)
Reviewer Dibs.
I'll never forget when i was talking to my counselor about my asexual partner and she though FOR WEEKS I was saying 'a sexual'. NO. THAT IS THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE.
"i'm asexual"
"a sexual what?"
"no i'm *asexual"*
"a sexual what??"
@@helix9445 same vibe:
"ah! youre agender? me too, which one?"
i feel so old watching all of these videos. at age 14 i donated $1 to the all or nothing campaign. $1 was all it cost me to be forever cemented in a part of history
I'm just replying so you can see how much likes you got
That is genuinely one of the most baller quotes I’ve ever read
Ok
@@IToastMySocks whatever historian revisionist
@@banditthekid9753 YWNBAW
“Can my niece wire $5000 to your account so she can make a tv show?”
_Looks at overdue bills_
“Sure”
It's honestly so crude how money was stolen from a literal kid, a teenager.
I'm pissed for them.
@@HobieInTheBox You're totally right, but that might as well been a lie so they could keep the money in secret
I can so easily imagine the adult who utterly dismisses the ambitions and resources of a 17 year old and prioritizes their own immediate problems, deciding their problems demand a solution and the kid doesn't need the money anyway.
@@sharkofjoy Right? It's straight-up fraud, though. Even with that kind of adult dismissing teenager crap, they never stopped to consider where such a large sum came from? They stole from hundreds. I'm surprised there has been no legal recourse.
@@sharkofjoy That's a pretty shitty thing to do, still. Literally theft. If there was truly an emergency, then they should've repaid the money later. You can't just decide you "need the money more" and steal it.
Also, the wannabe show creators should've opened their own bank account from the very start lmao
God. My partner is pan and I’m ace and every so often they say “wow... imagine if a pansexual and an asexual were like...roommates. How wild would that be?” just to annoy me lmao
Omg they were roommates
Lmao my wife does that too
I'm ace and i've lived with my pan best friend for like 5 years, our identities are usually the least interesting thing about us hanging out lol
Ohh man!! My partner is ace 💖💖💖 I'm always happy to see other people with cross sexuality relationships ☺️☺️ I simply love her. I think she's neat. The neatest.
I'm both. I'm Panromantic.
The whole "making fun of asexuals" thing hasn't stopped at all. Asexuality Awareness Day showed a ton of that like just threads upon threads of people making fun of asexuality on tumblr and off tumblr, especially twitter. It was awful.
It's calmed down, though, honestly. At least I don't see people with "don't follow if youre an (ace) inclusionist" on their blogs that often anymore.
I see plenty of anti-mogai people including ace people in their hate all the time, it's so gross
Just perusing tumblr leads me to a lot less acephobic stuff nowadays, and I see more ace-inclusive posts. The memory of 2014 acephobic tumblr is a pretty strong one, I think it's generally better, but there's always those people :( Scrolling through the ace tag is a lot safer than back then, god that was bad.
i don't think a site that flips their shit over shipping or is a gathering place for "otherkin",has any right to be making fun of anyone. like,jesus there is FAIR more "cringe" on there than asexuals.
@@JT5555 i mean you're right but i feel like that very sentiment is hypocritical. it seems like you're implying that people who ship or identify as otherkin are "cringe" and deserve to be made fun of more than asexuals :/ maybe let's not make fun of anybody.
As an asexual, bojack horseman was absolutely amazing and eye opening. It taught so many people what it means and had good, accurate, and non-harmful representation.
I'm just replying so you can see how much likes you got
the outfit and hair are giving me so much 1930s noir detective energy
oh most definitely
omg so true
She looks so good, right??
FUCK YEAH
Nancy Drew vibes
Honestly the real criminal here is that family member who basically stole the donations. They were trusted by a child, and they betrayed that trust and that child. That money was not theirs to spend.
But did that person actually exist though 🤔
@@Theyungcity23 I wouldnt be suprised if they did, im kinda in a similar position (i know this is coming from a total internet stranger and it is 100% fine if you dont belive me) but my dad is dead and my grandma is soon to be dead(breast canser) and becouse of legal stuff she cant give me my inheritance by herself unless she gives it to my mum first and honestly i do not trust my mum that much. My mother has a spending problem etc so i dont really trust her with inheritance level sums of money.
@@Theyungcity23 I think they did. Given how intense the anxiety was for the person who was taking the donations to run the project, I have every reason to believe that a person who really had just taken the money would've kept lying and lying and lying to avoid responsibility rather than own up to failure. That type of person would not come back into contact to admit where they screwed up, and how badly. But a person with anxiety who was screwed by someone else, and who wants to make things even slightly right, or at least explain themselves? Yeah, I'd believe that kind of person would come back after all this and take their shots.
Do we know what the family member trusted by the child spent the money on, though? I thought Sarah said that the child said that the relative called it an "emergency" (I'm too lazy to go hunt down that part of the video and double-check that). Without knowing more, you may judging the family member a little too harshly.
@@adamdavis1648 emergency or not, it’s not OK to spend a child’s $6,000 without permission. that wasn’t their money. if my sister had my money, got into a car wreck, and used it to fix her car i’d be pissed. they could’ve at least paid it back, but it seems they did not.
The one tumblr post show concept that I’m sad never happened was a post (i can’t quote it directly) that was like “four roomates on earth are each secretly aliens who are pretending to be human to observe our customs but none of them know that the others are also aliens”
and idk. that one just stuck out to me. reminds me of the classic “humans are space orcs” posts, which are personally my comfort posts
OHH I REMEMBER THAT- IT WAS MY FAVORITE TOO
Imagine they’re all different alien species and they’re all terrible at pretending to be human, but all the other aliens are just like “huh, didnt know some humans had tentacles”
Haruhi Suzumiya was kind of like that (I think, it's been awhile). Classmates are in a student club looking for supernatural beings, eventually it turns out the members were all aliens, time travellers, etc.
Are they aliens from four different alien species, or from the same species with four different yet overlapping missions?
@@phyllotaxis Damn... Is that how that show goes? Now I really wish I watched it before I read that comment
I feel like every Tumblr-wants-to-make-it-real project has the same bingo card of downfall:
1. Wild excitement and fanart
2. A sputtering out of results
3. Someone stares at the project long enough to find something problematic with it
4. [creator's old racist tweet/note from 8 years ago surfaces]
Remember kids, maybe don't use the same accounts/names you used when you we're 10 and racist
I wonder if there were Tumblr projects that were like DNF? You know, "When it's done lmao", then 12 years later the game is released and it's absolute horse manure.
The fact that you expose to the rest of the internet all this weird tumblr stuff without necessarily mocking the people who use the website is much appreciated
brasileiro?
And laughing at people doing dumb or cringy thing is bad because ?
@@demitwice eu não, imagina
@@maxlap7855 that wasn't the point, generally when you say you use tumblr people will make fun of it, even tho honestly rn it's the best website to use for fandom things (imo) it's refreshing that someone doesn't immediately goes for the sad omg you use tumblr you're so weird dig
@@maxlap7855 The idea that those people who aren't doing anything bad or wrong deserve mockery for being "cringe" is really ugly.
Man, these things always come down to "teenagers desperate for lgbtq+ representation in a time where it's basically inexistent" and/or "teenagers desperate to relate to people like them and believing that they can acomplish big things together", dont they?
We want to believe in something good before our souls get crushed
I give up. I’ve come to a point where I dont care..Im not getting decent representation, and if I get any, its alienating and incriminating
Even this boils down to “teenagers underestimate how much work/effort goes into doing things”
@@snakes7303 that’s why fan theories exist, it’s free representation
@@Mankorra_Gomorrah Starts that way, ends this way. I used to do similar stuff when I was a child.
My roommate is very asexual and I’m polyamorous and she’s the one who calls companies because I’m too socially anxious. Dreams do come true, folks.
me being asexual, being kinda shy and quiet (not necessarily introverted) but i immediately become the loudest person in the room when talking with me friends or about my interests.. do i count? lol
@@ronan-outoftimeMaybe counts. But quiet-except-when-talking-about-interests is fairly common, and a great set up for many successful YT creators. For example, I don’t like fish or ants, but watch videos on both of these from channels, just to see the content creators sheer enthusiasm and love of their hobby.
Why was I crying when she said something like "we could make real-life stuff happen based on Tumblr posts?" Like we really were so young and optimistic. Tumblr will always have the most cohesion/hive mind of any website but we just seem incapable of making adiffernce. IDK why but that makes me really sad.
But you gave a lot of people ideas, that they'll work on and implement in their own lifes. You have lots and lots of small circles of impact.
That's because a lot of them were too young to leverage ideas into action. That requires resources, experience, and help from other people in a lot of cases. The reason why you see indie games look so good now compared to the late 00s is because we've had another 10-13 years to build up tools, resources, and experience.
That's the natural order of things, some things just don't happen from sheer force of will.
Reddit could give them a run for their money. I got downvoted just for mentioning Israel (in a non-political context)
It’s for the best
that's because a hivemind only works if the mind is actually intelligent or at least compedent. if it's just a bunch of dumb kids just talking and pretending that they actually know how to do stuff,then the hivemind is ineffective and nothing actually happens. it's like if there was a beehive but none of the bees knew how to make honey or dance the directions to flowers: all you get are a bunch of dumb bees bringing back pollen but having no idea how to turn it into honey and no idea how to find more.
the way your channel continually unlocks hidden tumblr memories that i long since locked away in my brain
I literally just finished filming my first UA-cam commentary video bc I love your channel (and other cool femme commentary channels) so much omg, hi!
Omg you!! I like you!!
(I do the "that's it, that's my intro" too when watching your stuff lol)
It's like the scene in a movie where the protagonist gets bonked on the head and remembers something
Only difference is that here the bonk lasts upwards of 30 minutes
Woah, hello
I feel like this post is the start of some sort of expanded universe...
“I’m putting together a team...”
Sarah is slowly turning into the internet's Tumblr historian and I am all here for it.
So there's Strange Æons for obscure current tumblr communities, izzyz for the really weird shit and Sarah Z for the deep dive analysis and probably more that the algorithm hasn't shown me yet
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@@tf7602 and then there's Eldena, who talks about crazy stuff from various fandoms
@@tf7602 don't forget PM Seymour too
@TF Strange Æons, Izzyz and Sarah Z, the unholy trinity of Tumblr historians
every time she sneaks the phrase all or nothing into her sentences I feel like I'm being rickrolled in a very obscure way
I respect the willingness to flanderize the characters before they're even out of the concept stage.
It's a sitcom. All they really needed was to add was "the pansexual wants to find love and their asexual roommate acts as wingman. Hijinks ensue." And boom. Grab some stock set ups from every other sitcom and rom com out there and you're on your way.
Exactly. I don't get the repeated emphasis on the fact there wasn't anything more than that or descriptions of characterization to go on because that's just the "hook"/twist that presumably an otherwise boilerplate sitcom template would be applied to.
@@vadalia3860 There are key details missing, where do they live? Is what they do a part of it? What about supporting characters? Stuff like that on the indiegogo would have indicated a more feasible plan.
Yes, they should have done that and it was a red flag that they didn’t.
@@vadalia3860 Bearing that, would you give money to the original indegogo page?
@@vadalia3860 a lot more work goes into producing something than just writing it. as a person who works in the film industry, it takes months and months just to get a short film made
I saw that "Miss Officer and Mr Truffles" image and immediately aged 10 years. Oh god. Oh jesus.
ha ha ha- *Oof. Same.*
Saaaaame...
What happened? Also a defrauding scam or something else?
@@qwellen7521 Nah it was just a cute comic design based on a photo of a policewoman and a bear cub. The policewoman in the photo saw the comic and expressed her appreciation.
@@wjsnactivist6141 off topic but you stan wjsn too?
As someone who's still on the hellsite, ace, and admittedly been on said Hellsite since pre-dashcon, tumblr has gotten somewhat calmer over all but there's still pockets that shit on Aces, Bis and Pans.
as an ace person, i can get how people are rude towards aces. at least i have some concept of it. But bi/pan people? they are unequivically attracted to people of the opposite gender. HOW ARE PEOPLE MAD AT THEM
@Depressed Gay Wizard i mean, i understand the reasoning. I think the reasoning is stupid, but i understand it.
"They're not oppressed as much" see, i get this. It's stupid reasoning, but i get it. Etc
Sadly it seems the hate has just spread out to Twitter, Reddit and the LGBTQ places in other parts of the internet
a lot of the people that shit on bis are, ironically, pans. its pretty weird
@@beatm6948 coming from a bi person here ☹️ but people shit on us cuz apparently we are “natural cheaters” or something
Basically they think we will leave them for someone with a different gender than them :/???? Its weird we usually get this from straight though buuuttt
Sometimes its “you’re just confused” or “you’re not really bi you just wanna be special” which hurtfuly came from the community 😕
The fact that people still thinks asexuality means you are attracted to no gender instead of the literal meaning which is “lack of SEXUAL attraction” really hits me. You can be gay and asexual, you can be hetero and asexual, asexuals ARE attracted to people, but not in a sexual way. Heck, you can even be Pan and Ace at the same time! The whole premise of that series just screamed PROBLEMS to me tbh 😅
personally i think it wouldve been way better if the ace character was also aro
Aye. Everyone seems to confuse ace with either aros or genephobic.
Some asexuals are aromantic as well though. Some asexuals aren’t attracted to people.
The irony: Being attracted to no gender (but instead to anything else in other people) basically means pan…
@@1065chris To be honest, a lot of asexual people ARE aromantic. Very, very often you‘ll read „but asexuality is not the same as aromantic, asexuals can still fall in love“ on 101 pages. Sure some do (and they understandably want to express that). But the prominence of this sentence feels like asexual communities trying to distance from aromanticism. It‘s interesting how other terms like „bisexual“ or „heterosexual“ usually mean both sexuality and romanticism, but for asexuality usually not.
I'm best friends with the OP of the original post, and it never stops being wild to me that this whole thing even happened. Like, we were literally just getting burgers before The Lego Movie, and when we came out of the theatre it was like her phone exploded with notifications. Messy stuff aside, we still roast her for it to this day.
Woahhh
Oh my God, your friend is a historical figure
How does it feel to have reached the top.
are you the pansexual one or not?
i hope your friend doesnt still get shit for it, i doubt she had no way of knowing grifters would hijack a harmless textpost.
i havent finished the video but im pretty sure the sinister fake asexual blogs were the same (fake) ""superstraight" type 4channer movement thats responsible for weaponizing it into a way to make tumblr hate asexuals, which shockingly worked even on me so i cant imagine the amount of hatespeech she recieved on a daily basis. it feels like total character assasination.
asexuality online pre-2010s was forums of incels (....discussing foot fetishes )for the most part so it'd hypothetically make sense why they held such a grudge against asexual teenagers.
thats kind of legendary though.
glad to hear youre still best friends!
the numbness that flowed through my body when you said “over 7 years ago” then followed it up with “in 2014”
I FEEL SO OLLDDDDDDDD
Fuck, the internet makes culture move SO FAST and even in my mid 20s i feel like a boomer
2014 feels like such a short time ago
UGH I KNOW I FEEL SO OLD
This hurts
i still cannot believe 2014 was 7 years ago.
You could easily spin a sitcom off of All or Nothing. Outgoing aroace tries to set up her miserably lonely pansexual shut-in roommate with wacky dates and generally tries to get her out in the world on what may become misadventures. Aroace may try to save the situation to make Pansexual roommate happy and keep her from further retreating from the world, and Pansexual roommate learns to be more accepting and open to experiencing the world whether or not she has friction with it. The title "All or Nothing" is at once a reference to the characters and Pansexual roommate's neurotic attitude, which she gradually unlearns.
write that book. now. i’m hooked and i would volunteer to make a webcomic out of this 😭 it sounds much more interesting than the original concept while still being the exact same story
I would PAY to see this series!
How did you manage to make this good
That sounds cool!
Let‘s think of the arch of the asexual roommate. Maybe they do all this getting-their-roommate-out-there because they look for a good friend in them. The asexual and also aromantic character is deeply scared to be lonely …
“They’re making a show called All or Nothing” has become the equivalent of “I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn I’m selling”
I believe in Germany they call it „We‘re building an airport in Berlin you can open a shop in“.
I haven't heard the second expression, can you explain it?
@@afellowpotato basically, it's an expression about obvious scams. Kinda like the jokes about Nigerian princes.
it's like modern-day snake oil
You'd think a generation raised on "Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy" would've learned to identify grifters. But no.
@@phadenswandemil4345 yeah if anything it taught people how to grift and eventually you’ll get your big “break” lmao
Tbf most of Ed Edd n Eddy's scams were the equivalent of a lemonade stand. Kinda made scams look... not so bad.
@@breadeater1194 tbh a third of those scams looked pretty fun
@@noahkarpinski1824 Deadass, the box bus and movie cinema one looked so cool I wanted to do it.
Man, I honestly feel really bad for the kid who originally started the indiegogo, actually. Like, really they didn't think anything was going to come of it, they just wanted to get a camera and see what they could do. But it blew up, and got a bunch of money, and then it went into the account of a family member that they should have been able to trust and then that family member stole it. Imagine you make an indiegogo and you're still a kid so you have to use the bank account of a family member, and then they just… tell you the money is gone.
Yeah, that family member is awful. Why didn't they pay it back? What the hell happened here.
You shouldn't be able to open indigogo if you are underage, I'm not sure what the actual policy says thou
@@PrettyPinkPeacock I'm guessing "my kid begged for money on their internet hobby, they don't have to pay it back, and I/the family needs the money so the home video project or whatever will have to wait."
@@PrettyPinkPeacock Some people are just terrible like that. Will throw even family under the bus at the mere sight of money.
@@GalinaEv maybe, but the thing is, the kid who did it probably just didn't know any better. There are plenty of kids who do things like join websites with a 13+ restriction before they're actually 13, and this sort of thing is a natural extension of that. This family member not only didn't stop this teenager when they should have, but they also took advantage of this kid getting way more money than expected and just decided to keep it, leaving that kid to deal with the massive backlash from the internet.
so fun fact. im asexual. my old roommate was pansexual. none of the comedy came from our sexuality. like at all. youd forget we were an ace and a pan because of how little that matters. i rly dont think its as good of a concept as tumblr believed it was now that i lived through it
Maybe the concept isn‘t bad as such, but just way too broad to stand alone.
I feel like Tumblr never quite learved the lesson of "Don't give random people who didn't even cone up with the idea and have no proof they can deliver money"
Yikes. I feel this video personally. Senior year of high school I said a throwaway joke about a musical with kazoos called “kazoosical”. My friends thought it was hilarious, and me, riding that high, put the idea into action to make a music video parodying a Les Mis song with kazoos. I got props, costumes, set pieces, actors, learned how to fly a drone. I made a shot list and a storyboard. We had a kazoo choir recorded professional! But I had zero idea about lighting, cameras, or scheduling shots. The shoot day turned out to be rainy and ruined most of the shots. I promised reshoots. The next week was hurricane Harvey. Morale dropped. I had to return the costumes and set pieces that I’d rented. The footage we had became corrupted. And I feel horrible. One of the actors got in major trouble with their job for taking off that day. I have no idea how to recover as most of these friends drifted away after my failed video shoot. I don’t know how to properly apologize or anything since it’s been years. This video gave me war flashbacks.
Goddamn that sounds like a nightmare...
That sounds horrible. I always dread these kind of group projects, but recently I realized it’s hard to do things on your own. Had the same war flashbacks when she started telling the story about the indiegogo for all the little quirky projects I tried to do and all the disappointment surrounding my failures as well. Hopefully your friends realized that it wasn’t really your fault and don’t blame you for it, life just happens.
@@tumbke lol thanks for the encouraging comment. I’m sure they don’t think about it, not anymore anyway. We’re all in our 20-somethings now and have much more pressing adult issues. I just hate breaking promises or not following through for people. I’ve been looking into the symptoms of innattentive ADHD though and think I might have been struggling with it my whole life? It’s hard to commit to things. Learning to be more forgiving with myself and my scatterbrain. Be kind to yourself too, internet stranger :)
@@moethemoon it was. I even made a social media page promoting it. Look up @kazoosical on instagram. I should probably delete that lol
Holy shit this is awful. It always hurts when creative endeavors just don't go through. I hope this didn't quell your creative spirit!
ok plot: flirty asexual(i assume they’re not aro) and shy pansexual besties. flirty ace girl constantly is dating someone new, pan girl has never dated anyone. each episode is ace girl trying to set up pan girl with a date. and then they fall in love. slow burn friends to lovers
you absolute madlad you did it
this is actually a great idea for it if someone ever makes another version of this I hope it's like this
@@senpasztic875 there’s a reason they call me coolguy
@@basil0m0ri i simply think they should be gfs
@@mitskifanboy15 your name is well earned and your brain is gigantic
Oh man, seeing those tumblr lists of WLW movies brought back baby lesbian memories. It took me YEARS to realize that just because something has LGBTQ+ characters, that doesn't mean it's good. I never realized how starved I was for representation as an adolescent until I began to recall going through these lists and watching EVERYTHING, even amateur films on UA-cam.
When I worked at a university, teaching poetry, we shared our back room space with another lecture hall which was mostly used by the film studies department. Anyway I was friends with another lecturer Laura, who specialised in queer media, and I remember there was a week long period where everyday she came in and groaned about having to cover "... But I'm A Cheerleader..." again because she didn't think it was a particularly good film to begin with and she was absolutely sick of it at that point.
Eventually one morning I said "if you don't think it's a good film, and you don't like it, why are you talking about it?" and she said "do you know how few films there are about lesbians where they don't die at the end? Or where they're not over sexualised? Or are actually made by gay women? There's practically none."
I'd never realised how badly represented gay women were in media until that point and it blew my mind. Like I had never thought about it but she was completely right and in that moment I realised how awful it must be to be a young gay woman looking for representation and just finding a lot of sex and women being shown as unstable and dying at the end.
I hope it's better now.
Moral of the story; if you’re under 18 don’t start your dream project.
Or better yet. If you haven't made anything before, don't start your dream project
Reminder that the creator of Heartstopper was 17 when she got her first book published
Know your limits. They could've made a web book or comic but a show was over ambitious.
me, an avid tumblr-user for years, everytime i see what sarah’s video is about: oh god, not this one
waiting for the sixpenceee (or whatever the username is) video lol
@@SchoggiGurke or that weird user pizza
@@SchoggiGurke the day sarah covers thecybersmith is the day i physically perish
@@SchoggiGurke omg i was such a fan of sixpenceee way back before the whole child slave thing, if sarah made a video about it i think my fight or flight response would go off
@@thejudgingtrash omg yeah 😅
Stuff like this is why, despite it being a dying hellsite, no social media will ever top tumblr. The history is so goddamn buckwild and I cant believe I experienced most of this as it happened.
Stuff like this just doesn't happen on Facebook and twitter
@@koolkat-hq5xc until the inevitable Twitter convention. But, seeing as this is Twitter, it'll get cancelled
Livejournal circa 2000-2010 would like a word with you.
Sometimes I just want tumblr to come back. No, not because I like it, but because when it died it released its hellhounds onto the interwebs, effectively ruining all of social media. Every single one of them needs to be returned from whence they came.
@@mushmush4980 Pandora's Box has been opened, there's no way to close it agajn
I can't really imagine just stealing $6000 from a child, regardless of urgent need. Like, at a bare minimum you gotta pressure them into letting you use the money. Maybe make a hollow promise to pay it back. But just snatching it like that? Stone-cold.
POV: You asked the employee from the Hot Topic at the Hunger Games’s capitol how her day was
I dont go on tumblr anymore, but I remember in the batman community I once wrote a really short joke scene. Someone a few months later illustrated it saying something like "I couldnt stop thinking about this" the feeling was amazing. Artists are the real heroes.
i like to sometimes reply to ppls posts with doodles so im happy that it makes ppl happy :•3
Absolutely amazing feeling to find your work illustrated and SEE that someone understood what you were trying to say. Incredible.
Reminds me of when someone made an amazing piece of fanart doe the first original story I ever posted online. It's been years and I still have that fanart saved to my hard drive. That feeling knowing you made something that really stuck with someone is like nothing else in the world.
I also had tumblr back then it was rated 12+ on apple it’s now 16+ I used to constantly be on it tho.
As a former artist, I've illustrated a scene of my favorite fanfiction and sent it to the author, same with a girl whose url was "[name] blogging at night", I made a drawing of her blogging at night (very creative, ik) only bc these people brought me so much joy. The first fanfiction I wrote was a gift for a tumblr artist (and I was gifted one drawing back!). I don't use tumblr anymore but loved how easy to give art gifts (even anonimously) when the creator had the "submit" page open. It was such a wholesome thing to do.
i genuinely feel bad for the person who's family member spent that money within days of receiving it. i HIGHLY doubt it was an "emergency" that caused them to spend it, if i'm going to honest. especially since the person was a kid at the time, i dont doubt that that family member was like "oh nice, money. whats this kid gonna do, sue me for it?" spent it, and NEVER paid it back. imagine that amount of pressure being put on you as a LITERAL CHILD.
I was looking for this comment!! I can't believe not many people are talking about it. A child gave a trusted family member a large sum of money that didn't belong to them (because the child couldn't open a bank account on their own). And that family member just went ahead and spent it?? If I was in the kid's position, I'd disappear too. She couldn't make the series she promised, she's come upon a large amount of money at such a young age, and then the money is just gone.
if i was that person i'd literally refuse to even look at that family member ever again
I was thinking this!!! I’m like no the KID got scammed by her own family member. Taking advantage of a preteen like that is despicable, especially family.
My uncle did something similar to me. Offered to keep money safe for me and spent it.
It's infuriating and if it's true that person's family member is a pos and should probably be cut off.
You know that one Arthur meme? "You mean people would do that? Just tell LIES on the internet?" Yeah. I don't believe "a family member spent it" at all.
4:56 "It's kind of hard to see why: we aren't told anything about these characters"
We're told their sexualities. That is all Tumblr needs, pre-Dashcon or not.
--people fund a story solely based on the sexualities of two characters, with no hard info on the plot and minimal info on the character's attributes.
...gee, i wonder what could go wrong? lol
It's funny cause it kind of goes full circle and becomes offensive again when you comodify a characters sexuality and make it basically their whole deal
I mean yeah, the reason is that people were starved for media with LGBT characters. Not because like, they're commodifying people's sexualities, as another commenter replied.
@@katatat2030 I think it's both, to be honest
@@AstroTibs well, they aren't equally useful in understanding why people were supportive of this project. The desire for LGBT representation is the primary cause, while commodification of people's sexualities is honestly not a direct reason why people were into the project
I remember after I learned the term asexual and came out to my family that I now identified as asexual, my sister showed me a clip from Sex Education about a character who also realised they were asexual. I just remember being so excited that a character in a fairly popular media actually identified as the same sexuality as me, and it wasn't like a quiet hush hush inferred plot point, but the word was actually said as a fact, it just felt refreshing. To see a character coded as ace is rare enough, let alone one who actually refers to the word asexual. I'd love to see more of it honestly.
Around 23 minutes in I thought "this feels like the end of the video, things are being wrapped up, how much time is left?" Only to realize there's another half hour left and things are about to get twisted
This is the standard Sarah Z video experience.
@@martaszabo465 fr
As a tween trawling pinterest, I saw screenshots of posts like All or Nothing and Miss Officer and Mr Truffles, and I would think 'wow, there's so much great stuff happening on tumblr!'. Now years later I learn that these stories all range from horrible to upsetting and I'm kind of glad I only joined tumblr after the bubble popped
same here, I remember making a pinterest folder of pre-dashcon tumblr posts when I was like 12.... dark times
Pinterest really is where kids who weren’t allowed/were too scared of getting a tumblr account went for text posts (source: me)
i relate SO HARD to this. the pins of old tumblr posts were a cultural phenomenon
I have come across both the "all or nothing" and the "miss officer and mr truffles" posts in the wild, and the idea that anyone was making these into a proper series never once crossed my mind
Same. I've seen it all on Pinterest and thought it sounded interesting but never would have thought people actually tried to make them happen
This video just helped me to identify a problem with the comic I'm writing - I keep focusing on the social issues I want to address and my characters literally don't... have anything to make them People; just conduits for my thoughts and feelings. I was getting really stuck wondering why it was getting hard to write storylines for it but realising this has suddenly given me a ton of ideas! Thanks!!
I love these moments. I don’t know what to call them, but it’s those moments where you’ll be sitting doing something totally innocuous and something big but totally unrelated just clicks because of it. So good
@@nasinnarcotics a lightbulb moment?
Name a more iconic duo than naive teenage hype and getting hit by reality.
“Tumblr indigogo scam” doesn’t narrow it down tbh 😂
ok just gotta pop in and say i've seen you in like 15 different comment sections. and clearly i always notice bc of your icon. how are you everywhere
Seeing all these failed Tumblr projects I'm completely bamboozled as to how the Ratatouille TikTok musical got made
The what now
@@Merjacevi You read it right. It even starred Broadway stars and made money. Quarantine can make wishes come true
It was tik tok, also gen Z is better at organizing than millennials
@@raydgreenwald7788 As a Millennial...yeah you're totally right, LOL.
You can see the cultural divide between Tumblr Millennials and TikTok Gen Z there
honestly theres a super easy way to write a plot for this. episode to episode is asexual roommate tries to help pansexual roommate get a date but wacky hyjinx keep that from happening. full series is pansexual roommate realizing that they dont need a partner to feel whole and asexual roommate realizing that some people just aren't going to be outgoing
my best friend is panromantic and asexual. she really said "all or nothing? nah all AND nothing"
You notice how all these stories go like "we were teenagers and thought we could do it but lost the money"
A lot of naive teens whose reach exceeds their grasp. Kind of hard to fault them (they're just kids), but that also means I don't want to back stuff unless they prove they can handle what they say they can.
As a former tumblr teen at the height of this there was this vibe on tumblr that us kids with our progressive politics were gonna save the world and could accomplish anything we put our minds to. These are just the kids unfortunate enough to go viral and actually try it. I also don’t think that it’s a coincidence that the optimism happened during the Obama years and became cynicism after Trump got elected.
@@Stinkoman87 Those who actually put in money and lost it were probably naïve teenagers, too, just like Dashcon. Adults with more life experience would stay away from a sitcom pitch with a goal set at only $600.
"For a while on Tumblr ace people were considered cringey and annoying." As though every single person on that site, including myself, aren't cringey and annoying. 🙄
I was gonna say surely it’s more just that most of Tumblr was earnest fandom teenagers which will always be kinda cringe regardless of platform lol
I feel like a lot of modern acephobia (not plain acephobia for the sake of thinking it’s wrong/ not real) but like people talking down and making fun of aces is because a lot of the people on tumble who identified as ace back then were like teenagers who would try to compare their feelings of discrimination to POC and other systemically discriminated minorities and instead of outside people understanding “oh theyre young and feeling not accepted by their peers for their sexuality” they just thought “hey let’s make fun of them for being annoying. It’s definitely tragic because being asexual shouldn’t be associated with people being dramatic on tumblr. It’s real and valid
@@briannawaldorf8485 On the other side, I've noticed a lot of people interpreting asexual people just asking for better representation as saying they're equally as victimised as other minorities. There seems to be a lot of knee-jerk mistrust around 'newcomers' to conversations about representation, as if acknowledgement is a finite resource that can only be allocated to the most oppressed people.
@@catherinepolshaw1444 Same with ace people talking about struggles like sexual harassment and assault they *have* dealt with because of it, and people somehow thinking they were comparing it to other sexualities? Like no one compared it to homophobia, it being less severe an issue doesn't mean it doesn't exist, it's frustrating to see.
So I ended up making my thesis film (it's about a man who wakes up in a world where pants don't exist) for around $650, just a little more than the original crowdfunding campaign was, HOWEVER, all of our equipment save for our audio equipment (which was my own personal equipment to begin with) was obtained from our school for free, costuming was obtained from the cast and crew, and our locations were either on campus or at my friends house (who generously let us film there for free!). Also as film students we work on a sort of favor giving basis: I do the sound recording on one person's set, in return they were my gaffer or my AD. So we don't pay each other to work on each otherr's sets. Our biggest expenses as a production were food and props, and we were STILL under budget by the end, and my film is an outlier! Many people will raise over $1000 to make their theses that are around the same length.
My point is that to make one 17 minute short film that had 2.5 shoot days with SO many elements obtained for free, it cost about the same as what these people thought would allow them to make an entire TV series, just to put that number in perspective.
"pansexual people like all genders and ace people like no genders"
me, a tired ace person: eh, close enough.
As an also tired ace person….agreed
Me, a tired bisexual: hhhh
What would be the correct definition?
@@jeremiaseksztein8394 well bisexual people CAN and DO include people of all genders, regardless of how many you believe in. To me, bisexuality means you are attracted to *more than one gender*. Nothing to do with preferences. All mspec terms are microlabels, which go under the bisexual umbrella. Technically, all mspec people are bisexual, but choose to identify as something more specific than "more than one gender".
@@jeremiaseksztein8394 For me, as an also bisexual person, the difference between bisexual and pansexual lies in bisexual being 'I'm attracted to all genders,' vs pansexual being 'i'm attracted to a person regardless of gender, i.e, gender is not something I consider in my attraction'
ok so sarah just appears looking as good as this and then expects us not to die
Her haircut is soooo cute and for reasons gives me a bewitched vibe.
And the bi flag eyeshadow!
@@songbanana8 bi-shadow lmao
pls the hair and bishadow are so perfect
I was looking for this comment. Her hair is this beautiful copper tone, and I need to appreciate this with someone
“We even played the Great British Bake Off in RPG form.”
I’m sorry, you did *WHAT*
It's called Colosseum of Cuisine and it's GREAT!
Two guys raised $500,000 on Kickstarter for a home 3D printer. One of the guys took half the money and spent it on additions to his house. His business partner had actually wanted to make the printers. Got screwed along with all the backers.
I know I’m late to this but the pan representation in Schitt’s Creek means a lot to me and I love it despite never actually watching the show myself. A few years back I came out to my mom as pan and she at first didn’t know what it was (Idk if I explained it well to her) and later she got into the show and made a point of telling me that there was a character that was also pan and how it helped her understand more and told me the metaphor to ask if it was accurate of how I felt. She’s always been super supportive I just really like that Schitt’s Creek had that and helped her understand more and I really hope it’s helped other people understand it a bit more too 💖💛💙
the bisexual/pansexual thing ticks me off so much. The 100 had a bi main character, yet part of the fandom insist she's a lesbian, because her main romance was with a woman. One of the reasons I love House MD is that it had a bisexual character and it didn't shy away from showing her with both men and women. (and that was in the 2000s!)
omg the 100 fandom was so biphobic (as well as other issues). people kept getting called homophobic for shipping clarke with bellamy despite clarke being attracted to men. and also claiming clarke was "less important" than lexa because.... bi girls are less important than lesbians, I guess
It's so exhausting, and disheartening, seeing Bi-erasure everywhere. If you're bisexual in life, you'll probably be identified by other people as gay in death. Freddy Mercury? David Bowie?
house md Did, however, have an episode where they introduced a character as asexual, explained what it meant to the audience, and then "cured" it when it turned out his disease was reducing his sex drive
which is just,,, Something. it's a choice is what it is
@@tobimisa im not pretending that house md was the absolute best at representation, because it wasnt. But sometimes you take what is given, even if the source has its own host of other issues
@@kateb1761 yeah, we kinda had to take what we could get when I was a teen in the 00’s. It sucked.
what frustrates me is the “representation” of asexual is often portrayed as aromantic as well. asexual people don’t feel sexual attraction but unless they identify as aromantic as well they still want to go on dates with people and even end up in relationships. i haven’t seen the web series so i’m not sure if this is an issue in there as well but that’s just my person thoughts on asexual representation in general.
YES. I was looking for this comment. I'm ace myself so it really annoys me that most of the time it's assumed I'm aromantic aswell. There is a clear difference between ace and aroace people
Same. My own mom asked me "why are you getting married if you're asexual?" despite me telling her several times asexual is not automatically aromantic.
The problem is that there's so little ace rep that aroace people don't get much either
@@raphaellaS2 Yeah, but the problem is that people now just know ace people as aroace, it's good to teach the difference so people don't have the incorrect view of it :/
I think the actual underlying problem to this aro/ace confusion (except the fact that a lot of aro and ace posts from the communities themselves also mix these identities to an almost annoying degree at times) is that most allo people have simply never had to think about a distinction between sexual and romantic attraction, mostly because it just isn't relevant to them and it is never talked about except in aro and ace communities. That makes it hard for a lot of people to understand the split attraction model, it simply doesn't exist in their world.
Also on marriage specifically: in some cultures marriage is still only legal if you have sex on your wedding night and being married is in many other cultures as well still heavily associated with having sex (wait until marriage!) and it leading to child rearing. And since marriage is associated with romantic love, sex and romance become a package deal. Most people seem to have, at least initially, a hard time to wrap their heads around romantic love without sex and to some degree sex without romantic interest, like tropes about how "friends with benefits" will "inevitably lead to feelings" or how "people of different genders can't be friends".
I mean some people define a romantic relationship as "someone you have sex with, otherwise it's just a friendship" which personally confuses me but okay...
Amatonormativity sucks for everyone lol
Maybe the All or Nothing was all of the money they got and the nothing we got all along.
I really miss that creative naivite of 2012-2014 tumblr. Nobody knew how to make anything. Everyone was a kid and nobody knew how to properly produce things, but everyone had this innate urge to create. Twitter will never compare to peak tumblr (yes I know tumblr is still here, I'm still active myself, but peak tumblr was just Something Else.)
8:06 my fav selfie chain was a bunch of body builders saying they’d protect this one kid and then it ended with this one girl being like “I’m only 5’ and can lift 10lbs but I’ll be there for you”
i think my fave was the “id gladly punch a feminist” one. or the hat one lmao.
Aw :)
@@jelly44404 The hat one is probably my favorite post lol. (Well assuming we're thinking of the same hat post. The one where ppl transformed into whatever was stereotypical for that hat?)
My fave one was the one where there was a bunch of people finding out they were all doppelgangers and then that one guy that looked nothing like them posting "yo what up"
I’m partial to the hat one
speech team squad
omg it's Red Bard i love your vids (:
Hell yeah
Represent!!
Everyone always talks about theatre kids but nobody mentions the speech kids! Time to rise up speechers
No one who hasnt done it has no idea what it is
I feel the need to say this as an aroace, asexual means you don't find people sexually attractive, but can still have romantic relationships, while aromantic means you don't find people romantically attractive, but can still engage in sexual relationships. There's variations of both, but ace and aro are used interchangeably throughout this video, and it's killing me inside.
it's wild, and it feels like people only very recently even started using the word aromantic, and until then people just used "asexual" to mean asexual, aromantic, aroace, really any of those, and even worse, that some people conflated it to mean if you were asexual you were some cold unfeeling person who hated everyone
i can only assume because a lot of people forget that romantic and sexual attraction are separate entities, which i can almost understand since oftentimes they do go hand in hand, but they don't have to
No joke: when I was in college, the leader of my improv troupe tried to steal this idea for us to use to launch a youtube sketch comedy channel, since none of us were on Tumblr and would call him out on it.
How well did that end?
tried? 👀 i am interested
So that’s why there’s a UA-cam channel on that
I don't think that's stealing? Like it's a post on tumblr, go ahead!
@@theelectricwalrus think you'd definitely have to ask the op, and be open about where the idea is from
I just realized that TikTok is going through the same phases of Tumblr.
Didn't tiktok already have concept shit for a ratatouille musical?
@@elbowsbuns1896 didn't they actually do that though? Idk if I'm just gullible as shit but the last I saw from ratatoussical was that they actually went through with it and even had broadway actors
@@LuceOhsure they did! iirc it was over zoom or smth but it was fully written, choreographed, and everything, and the ticket sales went to charity
@@GraceCleo I just wanna know what happened to the guy who said he was going to make a ratatouille musical and made a tiktok page dedicated to it before Broadway picked it up 🤔😂
Because tumblr at that time was full of teens and now so is Tik Tok. Young people are just like that.
A "flirty character who hates actual relationships" and a "too anxious to flirt but really craves relationships character" are already common and popular tropes. Attaching "matching" sexualities just made it seem like a unique idea
Sarah: You either have to give it your all... (sips tea)
(I flail at my computer, desperately trying to close the tab in time)
Sarah: ...or nothing.
"I mean it's one web series, Michael. What could it cost? $600?"
Rest in peace, Jessica Walters
RIP to an Icon 😔
god damn, there were only six months between the all or nothing post and dashcon? They feel like they were years apart. Then again, I find it very hard to conceptualise dashcon as existing within this timeline -- that whole weekend feels like a mad fever dream that happened in its own, timeless dimension.
it's the dot of the i!
@@lasolady eyyy good place reference (i think, i haven’t seen the show in a while)
THERE IS A REALLY GOOD BOOK WITH THIS PREMISE
It may have been a coincidence, but Loveless by Alice Oseman is a coming of age story about a college student who goes looking for love and discovers that she's aroace. She also has a pansexual roommate!! They aren't the shy pan and flirty ace, quite the opposite in fact, but the development of their friendship is one of my favorite parts of the book. It's a really great story with own voices aroace representation, and I highly recommend it.
"Everyone comes out as a loser" except the one family member who got a free holiday
You mentioning how people lumped media with wlw characters together reminds me of when people made posts saying that if people liked Yuri on Ice then they'd love Killing Stalking because they both had gay characters.
Man imagine being like "you loved Yuri on Ice? Then you'll love Borderlands 3!" Lmfao
I read Once & Future because a Tumblr post said there was a pan character in it. Two problems: I don't know who the pan was and I read Once & Future.
okay but can we cancel killing stalking? real question
@@youn820 killing stalking itself isn't problematic but the fandom keeps romanticising abuse
@@THANKYOUFORTHEVENOM still awfully unhealthy.
The asexual hate on Tumblr was like, truly bizarre. Like, even the word aphobia gives me a full body cringe despite having identified as asexual? People really took the worst posts on Tumblr and AVEN and just ran away with it.
I think I remember hearing about biphobia on the site for a while. Tumblr can be a weird place at times; accepting, but also hateful at the same time.
Yeah specially since at some point most people there identified as moonromantic starsexual strawberry-gender ace lol
@@Otra_Chica_de_Internet honestly out of all those labels, strawberry gender is my absolute favorite. what an absolute power move
@@Otra_Chica_de_Internet ya know that strawberrygender is basically the label for the neopronoun? I'm not mad Im just wanting you to know that it's just a fun little thing for non gendered pronouns (but the like moonsexual thing is just people trying to be quirky and "inventing new sexualities")
@@Otra_Chica_de_Internet To be fair, a lot of these labels come from people with mental illness/trauma that effects self identification, or they're very young.
4:00 Tbh I don’t think the character’s race is that deep. Actually I’d argue it’s great that a Black woman is portrayed as ace, since women of color tend to be hypersexualized in media and stereotypes
When you've got people of every race saying it's offensive to headcanon those characters as ace, at least one person here just doesn't like aces.
FWIW I could see non-ace fandom people headcanoning characters of various marginalizations as ace to justify not wanting to see them in a relationship, but when the ace community, who are clearly doing it as a process of relating to those characters and not erasing them, get the blame for it, that's messed up.
@@breadeater1194 I don’t really understand your comment? Why is it offensive to call one of the characters ace, when that’s the premise of the show?
"No! This character is problematic because they're a loud black woman!"
"No! This character is excellent because they're an asexual black woman!"
Rinse and repeat until everyone's exhausted, but nothing worthwhile gets accomplished
@@AroundTheBlockAgain wow aren’t you upset that we’re having a friendly convo about media representation? Geez
@@user-vw2jq3to5e sorry, I guess my tone got lost. I was intending to agree with you that representation can be good for a lot of people, even if other people argue that they think it's 'problematic'. Yes, loud black woman is an unfortunate stereotype. But it's important that black asexuals get more visibility, and that outgoing and warm asexuals get more visibility.
It takes an extraordinairy level of naivete to think you can handle $6000 donated by random strangers on the internet without even having your own bank account
If they didn't have that relative's account to put the money in I can't imagine their hypothetical talk at the bank when they tried to open an account would have gone well
"Going to the bank, brb" is now the new "going to get cigarettes, brb"
They'll be back. They just went out to go to the bank and pick up smokes.
I actually feel bad for the girl whos family member spent the money without telling her and didnt get her back for it ?that is the most fucked up part of this for me
And as far as we know they didn't even try to pay it back to their kid. That could've been college money or set aside for a trip. If there's any truth to the story, that's what a massively messed up breach of trust.
@@BonaparteBardithion that’s exactly what i was thinking. assuming this is true, it’s so messed up that said family member took THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS from, to their knowledge, either a: literal teenager or b: benefactors expecting a product. either side of the coin is literally awful. emergency aside, that was absolutely 100% not their money to dip into. so messed up.
Yeah, if that’s true, that’s honestly disgusting. Hearing that really irked me. I hope that “emergency” was important enough to warrant taking $6000 from a teenager & the backers of random people.
I know dude, I was floored by hearing that, cause man who does that? Like I really hope there’s more to that, but I can imagine someone thinking they can take things from a child because nothing of kids could be important. I really hope it’s not that, but it sounds like it is and sounds fucked yo
to be honest I can't say I completely believe that story. But I guess we'll never really know
The best part of the webseries was when Jack said "IT'S DRILLIN' TIME" and drilled all over those guys
Dead meme.
@@fritzy8318 Just like your mom
15:52 "some say they're still at the bank to this day" PFFTTTT
*story seems to be wrapping up but there’s still half of a video left*
Me: 🤨🤨🤨
literally the point i’m at right now
You made me took a double take- yep, I'm only 40% of the way there and I'm terrified
I LITERALLY THOUGHT THE SAME THING HELP
Around like 18 minutes hhh
Reminds me of how bob's burgers was originally about a family of cannibals but that aspect was scrapped when they didn't think they'd be able to keep making new jokes.
Also 22+ year olds I hold to some account in these kind of failed projects, before that age you haven't finished growing and still have a hard time conceiving of long term consequences. I think some determined kids really believed they could make a cool show about people like them.
Bob's Burgers was WHAT?!
guess they ran out of burger meat from bob’s body (but seriously- that’s insane omg)
Forbidden Alternate Universe Bob's Burgers.
@@wuraolaolagunju huh
Not saying this show COULDN'T get turned into something good but I remember so many tumblr posts that were like "I want a tv show that's just nice and there's two characters who are friends just hanging out and nothing bad happens". No you don't. That's going to be very boring. Even shows that are "about nothing" have a story arc and maybe it could be fun as a mini-series but you definitely don't actually want a full length series of nothing and it CERTAINLY will not ever be made.
there has been a bunch of good shows where « nothing happens » and i personally really enjoy the slice of life parts of a show and if i really like some characters, a in off where nothing happens is heaven
@@immkk1125 But the reason you enjoy those slice of life sections in shows is because they're a break from the main plot. I'm guessing you wouldn't enjoy those bits if there wasn't a main conflict to be cutting away from. Name me a single show that has no conflict and it lasts more than one season.
@@GrayFortuneI watch a lot of ASMR videos that are basically slice of life with no plot and no conflict. it’s nice!!
Just to point out, Asexuality isn't the attraction to no gender, it's the lack of sexual attraction to others or lack of sexual interest in general (with varying degrees) You can still be straight, gay, bi, whatever and still be asexual. (only a couple minutes in but wanted to point that out since "All or Nothing" doesn't really make any sense in that regard)
Yeah, things have come a VERY long way since 2014.
it would make more sense if the ace character was acearo
The title of this video alone gave me Vietnam flashbacks.
Edit: also, as an asexual, thanks for not ignoring the aphobia, I really appreciate it.
yea! I’m really glad she mentioned that, as well as the Panphobia
I'm a proud aphobe - afraid of nothing.
@@Correctrix Oh I see! You’re looking at the word’s exact etymology - “a-“ meaning not, “phobia” meaning fear. Well played :)