I don't think that Shadow Gambit developer Mimimi closed because of poor sales, as I understood, they just wanted to move on to other things. I bought Shadow Gambit full price btw and didn't regret it...everything Pirate themed I am always down for...except for Skull & Bones...if it were FTP I would take a look at it, but I don't pay full price for a DOA GAAS.
You know who I feel sorry for.. Undead Lab making State of Decay 3 cause the original promise of The Day Before was basically what they were building and it makes me wonder if the reason we haven't seen it recently was because they saw the original promises of The Day Before and went back to the drawing board. Thinking they would have to at least meet the same level of standard that The Day Before was promising to even be able to compete.
it already was iconic since appeared in forest gump hahaha its just so way out of place for a game developer to say that like if it was something casual
One of the easiest ways to spot a lie is if someone tries to answer a random question you never asked and gives way too many specific details no one cared about.
I still can't believe that this was the most wish listed game. I never heard of this thing until an offhand mention in another video like a few days before release.
Yeah I don’t understand it either, I hadn’t heard of the game until I watched this video, and I play games and watch UA-cam quite a lot. The Day Before is just proof that many steam users are pretty young people and people that don’t really pay attention. They just saw a zombie survival shooter and they got excited.
I remember watching a "most anticipated games" video about it and immediately disregarding it because it looked like derivative garbage. Even if everything they promised was in the game, it's still just dayz. And dayz is already a garbage game for obsessive compulsive "gamers", like rust and all those copy paste shit. Not surprised that same public took the bait.
one alternative argument: if I had known of this turds existence, I would wishlist just to keep an eye on how its price is changing, anticipating the eventual rug-pull and delisting
@@bryanr93 No obviously didn't go on many gaming websites because they had gameplay videos that made the game look better. I'm starting to think you are a young person since why would you insult them and be condescending because they thought the game was gonna be good from the videos.
You know, at the end of this video it makes me appreciate what No Man's Sky became. It is literally the antithesis of The Day Before in pretty much every way
Exactly Hello Games could've been like the Day Before devs and just took the money and ran. But no, they hunkered down and got to work making the game better, and they're still working
@@captain_awesome2134It proves that passion is what makes good games, see Bethesda for an example of the opposite end of the spectrum. Basically infinite time and money yet a critical lack of passion that shows through on most of their products
The reason there are scammers in the industry is because of the success of games like no mans sky, the only difference is these guys gave up. But both developer team was dishonest.
Fntastic invited us to take part in a test task of writing a soundtrack for their game. The task was formulated as poorly as possible and with contradictions, and they gave 2 references, each of which is different from the other and not similar to what was in the task text. As a result, we were not hired, and, of course, the task was not paid for; they chose a person who did not even try to somehow fulfill the points written in the task, but did something completely different: an ordinary trailer track.
И это, на самом деле, полностью описывает процесс производства игры. Крайне рекомендую посмотреть хотя бы на перемотке пару роликов от IXBT. Поскольку, ну вы знаете, русским игровым журналистам несколько проще добыть информацию по русским по большей части разработчикам среднего звена.
So I just saw you guys make this exact same comment on a different video (Matt McMuscles). Copied and pasted. I suppose it's not the biggest deal ever, but I would recommend wording some stuff differently in one of the comments.
@@generalalduin9548You probably just saw stuff in passing. I had no idea what this game was then I saw some footage from videos like this and was like "oh I think I saw some of this a year ago". So I basically saw a game, didnt feel interested in it I guess, and it never really hit my radar. All these people talk about how obvious red flags are and Im thinking "I didnt see half of these videos or developer statements" If I was interested I wouldve done research (I always wanna make sure something is worth the money first, never been one to buy on impulse) and probably figure it out but as it stands this is a massive news story I had to be told about by a friend first before deciding to look up articles about the disaster
The craziest part for me was the Discord. It was a literal NUCLEAR meltdown of their discord. Staff were quiting on the spot, switching teams and calling the game out, till the point they created there own voice channels and text channels to keep 'elections for the best mod' because he switched sides, was so so so funny.
Regarding the Continent thing - I think you hit it on the head, because that story is exactly how Slack became a thing. A company called Tiny Speck used something like Slack as a tool when working on a game, and when the game (Giltch) turned out meh, they pivoted to selling the collab tool and became really successful.
I'm just happy that there will always be devs like Larian studios that just have passion for making games. And indie devs like the solo dev of Lethal Company, out selling and out performing COD MW3 on steam. These devs and studios will continue to show that just making a good game will fly further than any good trailer can when it comes down to it.
I think this case was never about the brothers even wanting to make a good game. Just about earning money the fastest possible way. And “making” a “video game” simply being their chosen method to achieve that goal. The fact that they also tried to promote a remote collaboration software in addition to their game seems to indicate that these brothers have an amoral entrepreneurial mindset. Meaning this was probably not their first, nor last scammy business venture.
@@hiimjustin8826 I mean, why not? And to play a bit of devil's advocate, the mess that was Cyberpunks launch was just due to upper management being stupid. The devs thought they were in for a 2023-2024 release date. The updates and Phantom Liberty prove the devs at CDPR haven't lost their touch, they just needed the time to do what they do best.
The fact this video is being used as evidence on X to warn people about Fntastics history is awesome. Yes, Fntastic has returned and have surprisingly raised $15,000 on their kickstarter for their new game lol.
This was exactly what I was thinking! Thank you for putting it into words! There's something about the brothers behind all this that makes me think they kiiiind of intended to make a game at one point but then the game making part is hard so they dropped the toy and went to party in Thailand for 2 weeks on company (probably started with their parents' money) expense.
The weirdest thing to me is that I keep returning to this video just to have it play in the background when doing chores. I don't know why, but this video feels so timeless to me.
As a tank nut, something that is ultimately extraneous but still amusing is that at one point in one of the trailers, a Warrior IFV (infantry fighting vehicle) is shown, which is British and has never been used by the US army.
The thing that speaks to me personally is that I was an acquaintance of a guy who worked at Mytona, Sergei Gres. He worked as a narrative designer. He basically told the world about their questionable and dictatorship-like work ethics and was fired, which worsened his depression and led to him taking his own life. He also exposed that this game was underdeveloped and lied about to stakeholders' faces.
@@Azuria969I hope so too, always looked up to him cause of his enormous productivity and striving to succeed. He even had time to mentor wannabe game designers to get their first jobs. His passing was a great shocker to us in his extended circle of friends. Mytona and Fntastic deserve what is coming to them.
That wall of “We’re sorry” apology letters at 36:23 perfectly summarizes modern gaming and I just wonder how many more of these we’re gonna see before something is done about how this stuff gets released nowadays.
And now all I can imagine is The Internet Historian, wearing nothing but his underwear and a military helmet, slowly waving his hands in front of my face as he regales the era that was The Day Before.
Meh. Small dev teams have produced AAA level games with almost double the time. The problem with gaming is when the studio developers, the financial backers, and owners of the studio all have conflicting interests. There has been 2 or three fntastic developers that have spoken out about how every time something was added to the game that the developing artists did, the owners wanted it changed or removed. It probably would've been a better game had the owners gotten out of the way and allowed a team moderator to do their job and lead the game without restraint. We seen this with irongate and valheim, how they let their team do whatever they want with a team leader to oversee the projects, and they are constantly checking their forums and reddit pages for player opinions to make the game better. 7 days to die has the opposite problem where the fun pimps actively dismiss player concerns like lack of base building varieties because tfp don't want to you be able to play but a few certain ways. When a game fails, it's very rarely the development teams and more of the owners/financial backers picking fights with the dev teams.
@@Elite02koverwatch is the ultimate example. Project titan was supposed to be an mmo, Blizzard didn't think it was profitable enough. They make OW1, and realize they can still make PVE hero missions and continue their dream. Thst got shut down because it was taking too long and too much money, but it was the one thing the audience wanted most. We waited almost a decade just for the higher ups to FORCE THE DEV TEAM to say "oh sorry we ran out of time I guess..." like.. it's horrific how much power people who have never played a video game have over them and i think it should be illegal for a CEO to be an out of touch, greedy old straight white guy anymore lol
I didn't knew The Day Before until I remembered their trailer was shown an event ( I forgot what was it) where people commented, "Wow! So much gameplay. Just a race car in an post apocalyptic-world. Nothing more."
That final bit about the losses of outstanding games this year hit close to my heart. Shadow Gambit is probably the best game Mimimi has ever made, and they had made some absolute bangers, but it collapsed the studio. I'm very sad to see them go.
Wow. That game has been on my wishlist... I just haven't had time to get around to actually buying/playing it. And a large part of that is simply the number of absolute masterpiece games that have been released this year. Crazy how release timing really matters.
Yea I hadn't actually heard about Mimimi closing until watching this video and it sucks to hear. Their games weren't my speed unfortunately(bought Shadow tactics, couldn't get into it) but I respected them for keeping that genre alive. It's a real shame to hear they went under.
The gaming market is so oversaturated nowadays, especially the indie and small developer scene. They used to be a novelty before, something to check out in between AAA releases. Now it feels like your Steam page is bombarded with them. I have so many games that I have bought but just haven't got around to playing. Even hardcore gamers are feeling fatigued because it feels impossible to keep up with every single new title. So even if a game is an amazing, GOTY contender it's almost impossible to stand out without a AAA marketing team. It'll just get lost in the sea of games on the Steam storefront.
@@themagictoaster2472 And that doesn't even cover this fact: This year has been, I think, the best year of my entire life for new video game releases. The fact that games like Tears of the Kingdom or Baulder's Gate 3 might not win game of the year, because they're competing with each other that year... That is a rare occurrence. And that doesn't even cover the games that I haven't played (yet). I look back over my steam history... And it's insane how good the games this year have been.
As much as I love the weekly news roundup, it is really nice to see some more in-depth content from Shillup! Strongly encourage more content like this, of whatever subject matter you feel like tbh
@@Phantom-kc9lyThats the whole point of the coment section, give feedback on the content. And I also would love to see skill up do some in depth "special", besides his reviews and weekly news videos.
Ive been a fan of Dayz and the devs for years and to see their response to this mess and their for no apparent reason celebration got me clapping my knees and rising my respect for them ten fold, loved to see that shit.
i honestly respect the Fact you put your Sponsor at the end so much, that i actually watched the entire thing. Normally i skip Sponsors when i haven't watched the UA-camr yet. But your Video was really great :D
One thing that is worth mentioning though is that it's almost impossible to calculate a developer's net profits from these sort of public facing numbers when a publisher is involved. It's entirely possible that all profits from The Day Before went toward the publisher's recoup, and I've known of contracts where the developer received only 50% or less of the net in royalties even after recoup (and that's before taxes). Which isn't to defend Fntastic at all, mind you, it's just to point out that if this were some alternate reality where they weren't dragging entire carts of red flags behind them, the claim that they haven't seen any money from TDB isn't at all unbelievable. And while in this case I have no doubt that Fntastic made off with a large sum of money in some form, you unfortunately can't assume that a dev sees 70% of whatever their games make on Steam, unless they've self-published and have no overhead to speak of. Again though, this isn't to absolve Fnatical because likely most of whatever the publisher invested was pocketed anyway, given the state of the game.
Maybe the company hasn't seen any "profit" but the brothers paid themselves 200k salaries + 300k "travel expenses". So yea maybe there was no solid profit, because the leaders pocketed all of it. And there's no way they paid that money back
@41rmartin Maybe they'll "accidentally" fall out of a window in Russia but that usually if you're just saying something against the shady shit Putin does like those doctors did with covid. All that education and they didn't know to be safe around open windows....
Depending on the country the eletricity might hold for years, in Brazil most of our elecricity comes from hydroeletric dams that mostly work by themselves so street lights might function for 10+ years if everyone dies
@@WORLDCRUSHER9000 True that, maybe would last a few months. I doubt people would be looting copper wires or eletrical machinery when they cant really sell it to anyone but weirder things have happend during less apocaplyptic outbreaks
@@starslayer8390with you fellow human friend, we are three human beings who enjoyed the sounds produced by skillup speech organs, let us wave our prehensile appendages in the air
They really played the long con. People are going to be less wary of buying an early access game than they are of paying for a Kickstarter that might not produce anything. These guys fully played into the “it’s real, you just have to buy it” to generate a false sense of trust, and I almost admire their willingness to wait three years before sticking their hands out for their payday.
One can respect their crafty and clever execution, I still hate scammers with every fiber of my being, but they do indeed know how to play the manipulation game.
People bought bs before this, people will buy bs after. Did you forget about fyre festival, dashcon, fallout 76, suicide squad, the list could go on. Edit: I also forgot to mention just the mass amounts of crypto currency scams even big UA-camrs are apart of.
Having completely missed this saga due to falling into the warhammer hole for the last 2 years, this video was an amazing look over this game and stuido. Thank you for making this.
That was like listening to a murder mystery. A fantastic tale of mystery and intrigue. Twists and turns. Ups and downs. All of it coming together in a head on collision of a finale 😮 I really enjoyed my bucket of popcorn with this one.
This teardown is completely brilliant. The delivery of the narration - the incredulity, the stunned shock, the air quotes, the excellent recap of the crazy story changing and covering up after themselves that all true scammers/plagiarists do. Another in a long line of asset flip scam games, but hey, at least this and other videos about it are way more entertaining than the "games" they are based on.
I remember seeing the devs put a little snippet of the jeep getting stuck in the mud on Reddit, and I immediately knew it was never going anywhere. Promised way too much
The funniest part of The Day Before is that all of the things that were supposed to be the selling point are done better somewhere else. Hell, get the right mods on a multiplayer server and you can have Project Zomboid do all that and more.
I love Project Zomboid, but one of the reasons I love it is because it's a potato version of DayZ. If I had DayZ, I would probably play that more than Zomboid
@@dominickmaddox9576I also recently found something that seems to be a parent of some kind for project zomboid, it's called Cataclysm: Dark Days ahead. It seems to be some weird big thing and is actually considered an open world rougelike
6:09 I AM a game developer, and I can confirm that is BEYOND fishy. Rule ONE of using an engine like Unreal and Unity is that you stick to the EXACT version you start with. Just updating an Unreal project with the latest tiny patch is enough to potentially break everything. Jumping from Unreal 4 to 5 would be a MASSIVE undertaking.
I'm not a game dev, and even *I* knew that! If you start a project in one version of software and then that software gets an update, you finish the project with the software version you started it on, otherwise everything goes to Hell in a handbasket!
Ralph. I had an old division video of yours pop up the other day... it reminded me I have been watching you for 7 years. And I still love your content as much as day 1. Thanks dude. Good work.
I would absolutely love to see more of these types of videos on this channel. As much as I love the reviews and round ups your story telling ability is amazing and shouldn't be put on the side.
This video really highlights some of the red flags that many other creators missed about this "game". I would love more content like this in the future!
I heard this game was a scam all the way back when they were sharing fakes screen shots. It was painfully obvious it was a scam, it’s amazing so many people still fell for it.
The shame is that their scam was partially successful. Yeah, Steam de-listed it once they realized it was a scam. Yes, you can request a refund. But not all users will request a refund which means some money will go to these scammers and some already has. I wish Steam took the measures to reverse every cent away from these scammers back to the customers. To see the wish-list numbers, purchases, and player count numbers that they saw, receive all the attention that they got with all the red flags being discovered, and STILL pull it off is troubling. The size and scale of this scam made me wonder if this was not some money laundering scheme.
Actually, that's a whole new discussion brought to the table that I think should be brought up. Nostalgia-based, immersive, difficult, overall really fun games, with good gameplay and way better actual graphics than this shitshow of a game somehow couldn't even get within a few THOUSAND players of this game, the game that everybody ALREADY suspected was a scam, and KNEW wouldn't live up to the hype, because of what had been shown. It IS kind of suspicious that some game that had been DEBUNKED to have had fake reveal trailers, and boring ass gameplay to the highest degree, somehow became the most wishlisted game on Steam, and then have the most purchases out of most of the big games of the recent few years. It's very plausible that the whole thing could've just been a money laundering scheme, but that all depends on the refund numbers, really, if over half the people who bought the game originally refunded it, I'd say no, but otherwise it's very possible.
@@WestGarbage6To add to the conspiracy theory, it's really really strange and suspicious that they closed the studio just days after the game flopped. Not even hello games gave up after the no man's sky disaster.
This was always one of my sticking points. When a AAA studio struggles with games promising less in scope, how is this small dev with volunteers going to do it? Even if they got the basics in, I foresaw a mess of bugs and weird interactions with all those systems colliding. It was never going to work no matter what.
The Gaming population was supposed to have learned the lesson once and for all when No Man's Sky released ffs. This is why it is abhorrent what The Game Awards did this year. Devs NEED to be given a voice, because no one knows how videogames, and games development, and the games industry actually works!
Yet conversely you've got Lies Of P which is from a mostly unknown studio that made one of the best Soulsborne style games I've ever played, and it's flown under a lot of people's radars. Which released in a highly playable state with very few technical errors, fewer than Starfield I find.
I really think there needs to be an even harder look at FNTASTICs financials around this whole shitshow. With the amount of refunds not taken, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if someone dug deep enough to find out that this had been a money laundering scam too. I can also almost guarantee you that the brothers will be back again under a different name and brand.
The whole thing seems linked to organized crime (or that it turned into one after the ultra quality trailers) involving much larger levels of money laundering. The two brothers cannot possibly justify their travel lifestyle from the milestone proceeds from their publisher. Saw plenty of those wannabe tech bros during the crypto craze.
I literally never heard of this game until this past week and I am genuinely mind boggled at how deep this goes, like this has been good ng on forever and I never knew lmao
Gamedev here. When we launch a title, there's a proportional element of reacting to player feedback. It might be what we are already expecting and have built our roadmaps to accommodate, it might be a course correction, or it could be a complete U-Turn. There's quite a bit of nail biting and fretting over player feedback when we press that big green GO button, because we're often too entrenched to really know how this thing we've poured years of time and effort into will be received. Could be great. Could result in layoffs. It's cutthroat. There's a lot of 'average joes', or games that just didn't find their audience out there, and I always encourage people to return to those titles, measure it fairly or just give it a chance, and question whether those negative first impressions you had were a kneejerk reaction. This is not one of those times. This is not one of those games. This is an absolute bastardization of an industry I love and pour so much effort into, and I am genuinely sorry to any developer that was swept up in the promises made by these greedy brothers.
The industry itself is garbage. You don't need to publish and sell a game if what you want is to make a piece of art. What you're confusing is making money. You're just thinking of the comfort of game developing as a business being endangered by bad businessmen. People will continue to make games they want to make regardless of the state of the industry and how much money they can make. They're not looking for a public to milk. Making a game is art first, if that's not the priority you're already making games for the wrong reason.
@@d.h.foster8937 Need=\= want. The perceived need of money is just sugar coated way for compromising art by forcing it into a career. Nobody forced you to owe money you don't truly need. Don't make the act of money making an honorary thing, it's just a fact of life.
@lasarousi I couldn't agree more, but the art cannot happen if there is no reasonable cause for monetary investment, that's unfortunately the reality of consumerism. :(
I remember seeing the announcement trailer for this and thought "This looks too good to be true I know theres going to be video essays on how this became dogshit, I just know it"
Fun fact: If you pay close attention to all the notices released by the company developing the game you will notice that their choice of words and way phrases are made pretty much feels like it was written by AI instead of actual humans. Even if the founders of the company may not be fluent in english any translator app would not mess that up.
nah man, the slavic-romanic automatic translation is atrocious, trust me, and the languages are structured differently enough that even relatively fluent people constantly use the oddest turns of phrase.
Scamming has become so commonplace in today's world. In my naivety, I used to think that scamming, false advertising and misleading consumers was illegal, but clearly not.
it is illegal, but if a punishment for a crime is not enforced the act itself becomes basically legal. it makes me sad that everyone's laughing and joking about how this game 'failed'. are we forgetting that the two brothers pocketed 3 million bucks and disappeared? they deserve jail time but they apparently got away with everything
Its because most of these things comes from different countries with different laws, something illegal in the US might have a loophole/ not illegal in other countries.... Meaning arresting them is very difficult
@@yoga5631you're correct, but Christ. Scams, false advertisement, and just being generally misleading about products and services is so common nowadays. I think this is something that countries internationally need to look at working on, because it's endemic.
The fact that someone even left a positive review... Shows you there are always sycophants willing to defend anything for the sake of defending. It gives them a special feeling of fulfillment.
@@bonko86 too many.... so many 'argument's' in streams trying to explain to people why the game was getting hate... and they just could not grasp what so many were telling them. too many people thinking that every one is brain dead and just hopping on the 'hate train'...
I think the lesson I've learnt in all of this is that you can get incredibly far these days with store assets. When I still used to try to make games (15 years ago) you spent all your time on gameplay and your graphics was a bunch of squares (side note: this is why Thomas Was Alone looks like it does: Bithell was building the game with dev art and realised there was a cool story to be had in leaving it in that style). Now though, that relationship has completely flipped: there is so much high quality assets out there you can get something that to the eye looks like a professional game, without a shred of game design required.
Usually though, most people actually listen to criticism, an internal sense of analysis, and after a number of big failures move on to something else. These guys rejected all sense of criticism as fake, their was zero introspection, and the consistently pumped out bad product after bad product in such a way that you could Tell they didn't give a fuck about destroying lives in order to line their pockets. Hmm, kind of like their leader, so monkey see monkey do. I stand by the fact that most people don't want to wilfully destroy others lives, and to the extent that people do, either they don't want to accept the risk of blow back, or don't have the skills to pull it off. The brothers had just the right amount of narcissism to blow smoke up enough asses, enough sociopathy to keep running a scam they knew would harm others, the lack of intelligence to know how it could all come back to bite them and the stones to keep up a front, and the skills necessary to keep it afloat until they got their payday.
I remember wishlisting this game purely to keep an eye on how far off the promised product it would be on release and gawk, provided that ever would happen (which I was 75% sure it wouldn't, I've played too may early access survival games; I can't not know better). I feel like most people wishlisting it were in the same boat, I refuse to believe most gamers aren't jaded enough to look at this and think "zero shot this is happening"
As someone in the legal profession, I can shed a bit of light on the trademark issue. While every jurisdiction is different, in the United States, generally speaking, one can send a cease and desist for any reason. It's not a legally binding document and merely serves as a notification that one party believes they have cause to sue another party. It is not uncommon for companies to send cease and desist letters, without any actual intention of pursuing litigation, as the mere threat is sometimes sufficient to get what they want. It's not clear to me in which jurisdiction the lawsuit of the calendar app took place, but I can say with some certainty that it would likely have played out that way in most U.S. jurisdictions as well. There are various different tests that different courts apply to trademark disputes, but a core element of all of them is the likelihood of confusion between two products. If they are substantially different products, the chance of confusion is low, and it is unlikely for a court to find trademark infringement is occurring.
Another A+ video essay Ralph. Knowing that the two guys scrubbed their social medias is crazy. They are like cartoon level thieves trying to run a scam. The internet has a long memory so just deleting everything was dumb as hell.
The Day Before really made me realize that we as gamers really deserve for game companies to take advantage of us because how could there be so many people that thought to give that game a try after seeing everything that was being presented.
Nah it is merely a point of perspective. You as a person watching this video is already more engaged in video games than probably 95% of the total demographic that is actively playing video games. Yes this does of course include mobile accounts etc., but it would be silly to assume that mobile players could never grow in their interest and swap to a more core platofrm and video games. Therefore you can compare this to, really any other product which runs on quality and not quantity (...usually), like computers, audio equipment, cars, smart phones etc... For some people this game might have been the only one they got algorithmed by and were like "wow, this looks awesome!" without having any idea that of course games are just "another" industry in the current day and age and might just feel too innocent about it because they got really sucked into gaming as a hobby more and more. Maybe you see where I am coming from? I agree with your statement fully on pre-orders and just being fine with a lot of bullshit microtransaction bc people can't regulate their dopamine hits, a lot of people deserve to be ripped off in those cases imo as well.
It's wild because this is a PC only game most people on PC should at least be have someone they know in the loop talking about this shit. Like "hey did you hear about this wild scam videogame".
You speak like they didn’t have polished trailers that even IGN believed were real enough to publish on their channel. They lied to their publishers too, it’s not the consumers fault for the deception.
I only know this game exists because a youtuber/streamer i watch regularly was excited for this game and it wasn't anything like his usual content (he really only plays RTS games) And during the entire stream of the game on day 1 release, he was getting progressively more and more disappointed. 2 days later he'd upload a video venting about he felt scammed. So this game will eternally be remembered to me as "That Scam Game that made Dominator very sad"
Yes it is LOL a form of essay presented as a video recording, where the author uses visual elements like footage and editing techniques to analyze a topic, express an opinion, and develop an argument @casey_sux
The only reason that would be insane is because they would have started a few years before AI got to where it is now. If they had started now, I wouldn't be surprised one bit in the slightest
I still remember when some people said this game couldn't be a scam because "how would they get a publisher involved if the game isn't real"? Turns out a game can still be real in the sense that it exists and is 'playable' (barely) and still be a scam. It used deceptive tactics to try and sell people into something that would never meet the advertised quality, increase visibility for the studio's other projects and get interested 'volunteers' to work for no pay. Also just because the scam is hilariously stupid, doomed to fail and makes no sense to anyone with 3 braincells, doesn't mean it's not a scam.
Yes, please join the fold of video essayists. I for one was thoroughly entertained and I think you ought to do this stuff more often. Can't have too many excellent video creators 👍
@@TheSergio1021 I don't think so. I think reviews are helpful in order for consumers to make informed decisions. Essays are a lot more free form, and while they often have something to say, the message is rarely, "buy (or don't buy) this product".
@@j-frost freeform in what way? He still followed the basic structure only he talked less about gameplay and more about the company because there was literally no gameplay to speak of.
Amazing accomplishment to get a video out this long, informative and supremely entertaining with everything else you guys have going on. Thank you for this, and it looks like the next video or two for Shill Up will be his 1 million sub celebration. Cheers
21:04 This one is actually pretty simple! In many MMORPG's players tend to enjoy the roleplay aspect of the open world games, the musician job could be used to cater towards those people as they take up a big chunk of MMORPG players alongside PvP players and the such! Hope this helps!
I remember hearing about this game, people saying "looks like another game where they over-promise in the trailers", "let's wait and see...", and thinking that I'll come see the results in 2-3 years when the game is released. Even after watching this I had thought I was watching a video on events that had happened years ago. Imagine my surprise when I find out the game was released 3 weeks ago! I'm such a different person compared to who I was 5 years ago that it's blowing my mind how that innocuous trailer I passed by long time ago only released its game.
Wouldn't be surprised if a bigger company such as Rockstar actually makes a successful game on what this scam game could've given players and it turns out to be a real deal
I'm pretty sure 90% of Open World Zombie Survival games are scams, this one was just on another level. With AI improving every day we're going to need to be even more vigilant.
just dont buy games on day 1 and let reviewers do their jobs and we dont even have to stress about vigilance that much. all the kids today wont have the wisdom or patience to ever stop preordering games.
@@as1tis as a huge fan of PZ while I do agree, god is their update cycle one of the slowest things ever. It has been like 10 years and the game is still no where near full release and B42 has been teased for a.... very long time. Like I said, a good game but this dev cycle ain't it.
@@user-to1su2iy4dI don’t see why 😂😂 unintelligent people usually just say stuff like what you did and not give any examples. You were emotionally triggered and had no factual responses
Except they're not really examining the completionist as they should. This game was an obvious scam months ago and everyone is getting refunded, Jirard scammed a charity which I feel is a much worse dick move and he just gets to quietly slink away on his own terms with barely a peep.
@@kiwd-dynamic they’ve already addressed it twice. Once on the podcast about him temporarily stepping away from the podcast and one on Twitter about him stepping away permanently.
I was just thinking after you said the word plagiarism I was like "oh haha I've seen plagiarism a lot more since the James Somerton video dropped" and then you directly referenced him lol
Funnily enough, he was also a massive liar, going on about facts he pulled right out of his ass. Perhaps these developers have more in common with James Somerton than we think.
I ultimately resisted the pull, but I wonder how many other people bought it to simply be a part of the moment and experience how spectacularly bad it was gonna be. I thankfully had no idea it had actually released, or I may have too. It's a shame when, like you said, legitimately good games sell so poorly that small or even large studios close while a game like this can sell numbers as the purchase equivalent of shitposting or off those who somehow still got scammed after all the red flags.
This whole story is just unbelievable. I hope they get sued from every angle possible and face the legal consequences. There's just no way they can get away with this.
Hopefully this inspires some developers to make a game like what was promised. It’s like those mobile game ads where they play it wrong so you want to download it, but with game development.
If anything it'll inspire more devs to be this shaddy, gamers have practically 0 impulse buying control & absolute horrible memory. We'll throw out money at anything and this just serves as a damning evidence that gamers will buy anything gaming devs plops out.
This will inspire the oposite since people have shown to willingly pay for products without caring about the obvious red flags. If anything, more scams like The Day Before will arise in the future.
@@newyou6210 exactly this! the average consumer isn't watching these videos because they just want to game, even if its as shit as this game. I saw plenty of comments on reddit and even on the steam discussions that people found this fun...you just can't do anything about these types of people. They will buy the worst game ever regardless of how bad the dev behind the scenes is. Same with all the Ultimate Team systems from EA or the gambling stuff in NBA. The majority will buy it and enjoy sadly because they don't care for anything else.
Not at all, the other devs I've spoken to especially other indie devs we've said this is painting us in a bad light and will be skeptical about purchasing games in the future even though like myself we strive for perfection. I test my gameplay after every single update over and over till I'm happy with the outcome, that small bit in the video about not being able to loot the box without being in a certain position would have infuriated me, So I personally wouldn't have stopped with that until that function was 100% pleasing. It seems like Fntastic just took shortcuts as they knew budget was running out and needed to get the game out ASAP before they went skint.@@newyou6210
The lesson from it, is: players are morons and there will be always someone exploiting that and making money of them. Pretty much whole AAA industry does that.
I am an artist in russian game dev industry and I regret to report that things got progressively worse with sanctions. Big game dev is essentially non-existent in present-day Russia and I myself worked for an indie dev company that shut down for similar reasons. I remember being excited about The Day Before and even considered trying to apply for a job at Fntastic… Boy what an ending… I’m extremely disappointed.
@@vitek245 yeah its my fault i wasn’t old enough to vote 😊😊😊 i got you i hate this war as much as anyone else and as you see sanctions failed miserably in trying to put an end to it it’s only regular people being affected by them
i love how much fun you're having with this story. I mean, we all saw it coming but you are at least getting some good entertainment out of this fiasco!
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Shit post up is so nostalgic i love it
Don't really want games to fail but love to see scams fail
i think you meant to title the video, "The Completionist, a scam to remember"
I don't think that Shadow Gambit developer Mimimi closed because of poor sales, as I understood, they just wanted to move on to other things. I bought Shadow Gambit full price btw and didn't regret it...everything Pirate themed I am always down for...except for Skull & Bones...if it were FTP I would take a look at it, but I don't pay full price for a DOA GAAS.
You know who I feel sorry for.. Undead Lab making State of Decay 3 cause the original promise of The Day Before was basically what they were building and it makes me wonder if the reason we haven't seen it recently was because they saw the original promises of The Day Before and went back to the drawing board. Thinking they would have to at least meet the same level of standard that The Day Before was promising to even be able to compete.
Why not play a little more avatar since you love it so much 😂😂😂 🤡🤑
"shit happens" is absolutely going to become an iconic line from gaming history
it already was iconic since appeared in forest gump hahaha its just so way out of place for a game developer to say that like if it was something casual
Up there with EA with their Player Choice rant or what it was.
It just works
Do you guys not have phones?
@@no_opinion1065 oh that bullshit was so stupid.
One of the easiest ways to spot a lie is if someone tries to answer a random question you never asked and gives way too many specific details no one cared about.
the politician special
The art of bullshit
I'm autistic so I just do that accidentally lmao
@@AlexMourning5635 Same, it's a struggle lol
the easiest way to spot a lie is to check if someone is russian
I still can't believe that this was the most wish listed game. I never heard of this thing until an offhand mention in another video like a few days before release.
Yeah I don’t understand it either, I hadn’t heard of the game until I watched this video, and I play games and watch UA-cam quite a lot. The Day Before is just proof that many steam users are pretty young people and people that don’t really pay attention. They just saw a zombie survival shooter and they got excited.
I remember watching a "most anticipated games" video about it and immediately disregarding it because it looked like derivative garbage.
Even if everything they promised was in the game, it's still just dayz. And dayz is already a garbage game for obsessive compulsive "gamers", like rust and all those copy paste shit.
Not surprised that same public took the bait.
one alternative argument: if I had known of this turds existence, I would wishlist just to keep an eye on how its price is changing, anticipating the eventual rug-pull and delisting
@@bryanr93 No obviously didn't go on many gaming websites because they had gameplay videos that made the game look better. I'm starting to think you are a young person since why would you insult them and be condescending because they thought the game was gonna be good from the videos.
@@lasarousi Such irony as you play Mario Kart and that's copy past shit 🤣🤣
You know, at the end of this video it makes me appreciate what No Man's Sky became. It is literally the antithesis of The Day Before in pretty much every way
that was one that had huge hype, fell well short early on, and has since been revamped and buffed up big time right?
@@Julian-rt9qs That's right. It started off huge and empty with pretty much no substance but has since grown into a respectable space sandbox game
Exactly Hello Games could've been like the Day Before devs and just took the money and ran. But no, they hunkered down and got to work making the game better, and they're still working
@@captain_awesome2134It proves that passion is what makes good games, see Bethesda for an example of the opposite end of the spectrum. Basically infinite time and money yet a critical lack of passion that shows through on most of their products
The reason there are scammers in the industry is because of the success of games like no mans sky, the only difference is these guys gave up. But both developer team was dishonest.
Fntastic invited us to take part in a test task of writing a soundtrack for their game. The task was formulated as poorly as possible and with contradictions, and they gave 2 references, each of which is different from the other and not similar to what was in the task text. As a result, we were not hired, and, of course, the task was not paid for; they chose a person who did not even try to somehow fulfill the points written in the task, but did something completely different: an ordinary trailer track.
И это, на самом деле, полностью описывает процесс производства игры. Крайне рекомендую посмотреть хотя бы на перемотке пару роликов от IXBT. Поскольку, ну вы знаете, русским игровым журналистам несколько проще добыть информацию по русским по большей части разработчикам среднего звена.
@@УлыбышеваАлександра...what
Oh jeez...
They doing all the hallmarks of scummy game dev work, huh?
So I just saw you guys make this exact same comment on a different video (Matt McMuscles). Copied and pasted.
I suppose it's not the biggest deal ever, but I would recommend wording some stuff differently in one of the comments.
@@stronautninjatoxic yeah, so ? We commented this on few related videos at the same time. Is there a problem with that ?
I feel like I was the only person who never heard about this game before this whole drama started.
Same. It’s not that bad. I bought it before it gets delisted.
@@BungieStudiosIf by “not that bad” you mean the game I feel bad for your standards.
@@BungieStudios you are a.... you know what you're really are... and you're proud about it SMH
I swear thus always happens to me. Im always missing the drama until its right at the end
@@generalalduin9548You probably just saw stuff in passing.
I had no idea what this game was then I saw some footage from videos like this and was like "oh I think I saw some of this a year ago". So I basically saw a game, didnt feel interested in it I guess, and it never really hit my radar. All these people talk about how obvious red flags are and Im thinking "I didnt see half of these videos or developer statements"
If I was interested I wouldve done research (I always wanna make sure something is worth the money first, never been one to buy on impulse) and probably figure it out but as it stands this is a massive news story I had to be told about by a friend first before deciding to look up articles about the disaster
I was dying at the part where the developer was asked if they were going to add melee and they said "we're considering it" LMAO!!
It's not even a joke that a game starring Mahatma Gandhi has more violence than The Day Before
@@vitoc8454usually its Gandhi who use extreme violence on those games
@@vitoc8454 Mahatma Gandhi the nuke-spamming warmonger, yes, I know him well
@@zyriantel9601hello fellow civs player
Lmao made me laugh 😂😂@@zyriantel9601
The craziest part for me was the Discord. It was a literal NUCLEAR meltdown of their discord. Staff were quiting on the spot, switching teams and calling the game out, till the point they created there own voice channels and text channels to keep 'elections for the best mod' because he switched sides, was so so so funny.
ratio + yb better + cringe
@@merucrypoison296I mean really does anyone care about a heluva boss wannabe on the internet with a typo on his name? I think not.
@@mysanity_islow you fell off
@@merucrypoison296 cool I'd love that
Literal NUCLEAR meltdown, huh? I hope everyone was stacked on their anti-rad pills.
"most wishlisted game on steam"
i didnt realize i lived under a rock, i never even heard of this game
for real. I only heard about it AFTER it launched all the people started saying it was a huge scam
I just know this game existed today, how dare i call myself a steam user
Same
I only heard about it when it launched
Same.
Regarding the Continent thing - I think you hit it on the head, because that story is exactly how Slack became a thing. A company called Tiny Speck used something like Slack as a tool when working on a game, and when the game (Giltch) turned out meh, they pivoted to selling the collab tool and became really successful.
Glitch was a pretty promising game though. I don't remember much about Slack when I played it though.
slack sux tho
Slack is one of those things, like Zoom, that I've never really understood why it took off.
@@johnmartinez7440 it was pretty good when it came out, there was no other equivalent as far as I know.
@@zzBaBzz Slack is a lot lot better than the alternatives like Team
I'm just happy that there will always be devs like Larian studios that just have passion for making games. And indie devs like the solo dev of Lethal Company, out selling and out performing COD MW3 on steam. These devs and studios will continue to show that just making a good game will fly further than any good trailer can when it comes down to it.
I think this case was never about the brothers even wanting to make a good game. Just about earning money the fastest possible way. And “making” a “video game” simply being their chosen method to achieve that goal. The fact that they also tried to promote a remote collaboration software in addition to their game seems to indicate that these brothers have an amoral entrepreneurial mindset. Meaning this was probably not their first, nor last scammy business venture.
It’s actually insane how good indie games are to almost all triple A titles these days, BG3 being a rare and beautiful exception
The way you talk about Larian is the same energy people spoke about CDPR before Cyberpunk lol
@@hiimjustin8826 I mean, why not? And to play a bit of devil's advocate, the mess that was Cyberpunks launch was just due to upper management being stupid. The devs thought they were in for a 2023-2024 release date. The updates and Phantom Liberty prove the devs at CDPR haven't lost their touch, they just needed the time to do what they do best.
@@Arcturus_Reaper Sorry I just thought the hero worship with CDPR was gross and I'm not LF to that again with Larian
The fact this video is being used as evidence on X to warn people about Fntastics history is awesome. Yes, Fntastic has returned and have surprisingly raised $15,000 on their kickstarter for their new game lol.
The people who donated to this deserved to have money taken away from them
What???
You gotta be kidding me? 😂
You gotta give them credit. The day before release was the last day anyone believed the hype
Pretty sure that was not at all the case: people are just fucking stupid and have the memory of a goldfish, particularly when it comes to scams.
You made my Christmas
Too bad it wasn’t the last day gamers believed a hype
Hyping up over a twobit scam family, kinda like hyping up over new cod games lmao
@@2Siders Can't wait for the next huge disappointment that gets preordered like hell
This whole saga has the energy of a child trying to convince their parents that they totally did their homework
This was exactly what I was thinking! Thank you for putting it into words! There's something about the brothers behind all this that makes me think they kiiiind of intended to make a game at one point but then the game making part is hard so they dropped the toy and went to party in Thailand for 2 weeks on company (probably started with their parents' money) expense.
History teacher here - can confirm this is 1:1 the exact same vibe.
At least a child wouldn't ask people to work for him for nothing in the name of volunteering
@@consolas8549Some do ask their friends to do the homework for them
@@consolas8549with the potential of one day becoming a full-time volunteer. That kind of makes it better, right?
The Day Before was available to purchase for almost as long as Christopher Judge's speech last year, damn.
That long?
Longer than mw3's campaign.
Still longer than mw3 then
Please Wrap it up
People dunk on MW3’s campaign but it’s longer than some Open World Zombie Survival MMOs entire roadmap.
The weirdest thing to me is that I keep returning to this video just to have it play in the background when doing chores. I don't know why, but this video feels so timeless to me.
If this marks Ralph's slow descent into his manic video essay phase I'm all for it.
Give him a few years and maybe he will start dropping 4 hour essays once in a few months.
@@mafata4200Ralph cuts through a wall with a fireaxe just to give you a lecture about freighters
@@mafata4200plix
Have you not seen his division 2 and monster hunter world reviews that are like an hour long. Masterclass
As a tank nut, something that is ultimately extraneous but still amusing is that at one point in one of the trailers, a Warrior IFV (infantry fighting vehicle) is shown, which is British and has never been used by the US army.
The brits even invaded post-apocalyptic NY😂
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerd!
@@kassar7146 Yes.
Are you autistic by any chance
BAE makes a lot of stuff for the USA so it's not entirely unrealistic
The thing that speaks to me personally is that I was an acquaintance of a guy who worked at Mytona, Sergei Gres. He worked as a narrative designer. He basically told the world about their questionable and dictatorship-like work ethics and was fired, which worsened his depression and led to him taking his own life. He also exposed that this game was underdeveloped and lied about to stakeholders' faces.
uhhh Im sorry for that... I hope he rests in peace now
@@Azuria969I hope so too, always looked up to him cause of his enormous productivity and striving to succeed. He even had time to mentor wannabe game designers to get their first jobs. His passing was a great shocker to us in his extended circle of friends. Mytona and Fntastic deserve what is coming to them.
I am very sorry for your loss. I pray that God helps you find peace and comfort in this hard time.
Im Sorry for your loss, May he rest in peace
Your friend was a brave man. It's a shame it went the way it did...
May he rest in peace, and is making awesome games in heaven.
That wall of “We’re sorry” apology letters at 36:23 perfectly summarizes modern gaming and I just wonder how many more of these we’re gonna see before something is done about how this stuff gets released nowadays.
*modern AAA gaming
This is like the "Fyre Festival" of video games.
And now all I can imagine is The Internet Historian, wearing nothing but his underwear and a military helmet, slowly waving his hands in front of my face as he regales the era that was The Day Before.
Organizing events is hard and way more expensive than they thought it would be clearly, shoulda canceled that whole thing.
exactly what i was thinking
That is a remarkably apt simile
@@willropa4226 laughing at the thought of that pathetic nazi doing that.
The Day Before made me realize that people work extremely hard to develop great games
Meh. Small dev teams have produced AAA level games with almost double the time. The problem with gaming is when the studio developers, the financial backers, and owners of the studio all have conflicting interests. There has been 2 or three fntastic developers that have spoken out about how every time something was added to the game that the developing artists did, the owners wanted it changed or removed.
It probably would've been a better game had the owners gotten out of the way and allowed a team moderator to do their job and lead the game without restraint. We seen this with irongate and valheim, how they let their team do whatever they want with a team leader to oversee the projects, and they are constantly checking their forums and reddit pages for player opinions to make the game better.
7 days to die has the opposite problem where the fun pimps actively dismiss player concerns like lack of base building varieties because tfp don't want to you be able to play but a few certain ways.
When a game fails, it's very rarely the development teams and more of the owners/financial backers picking fights with the dev teams.
@@Elite02koverwatch is the ultimate example. Project titan was supposed to be an mmo, Blizzard didn't think it was profitable enough. They make OW1, and realize they can still make PVE hero missions and continue their dream. Thst got shut down because it was taking too long and too much money, but it was the one thing the audience wanted most.
We waited almost a decade just for the higher ups to FORCE THE DEV TEAM to say "oh sorry we ran out of time I guess..." like.. it's horrific how much power people who have never played a video game have over them and i think it should be illegal for a CEO to be an out of touch, greedy old straight white guy anymore lol
@@nailinthefashionblack man complaining about white people, classic. Go home brother.
@@rexthewolf3149nah he's right
@@rexthewolf3149
White guy complaining about black man, classic.
Go home brother.
Important note is Fntastic already changed their name to Eight Points, as confirmed by their previous game The Wild Eight.
I didn't knew The Day Before until I remembered their trailer was shown an event ( I forgot what was it) where people commented, "Wow! So much gameplay. Just a race car in an post apocalyptic-world. Nothing more."
That final bit about the losses of outstanding games this year hit close to my heart. Shadow Gambit is probably the best game Mimimi has ever made, and they had made some absolute bangers, but it collapsed the studio. I'm very sad to see them go.
Wow. That game has been on my wishlist... I just haven't had time to get around to actually buying/playing it. And a large part of that is simply the number of absolute masterpiece games that have been released this year. Crazy how release timing really matters.
Yea I hadn't actually heard about Mimimi closing until watching this video and it sucks to hear. Their games weren't my speed unfortunately(bought Shadow tactics, couldn't get into it) but I respected them for keeping that genre alive. It's a real shame to hear they went under.
The gaming market is so oversaturated nowadays, especially the indie and small developer scene. They used to be a novelty before, something to check out in between AAA releases. Now it feels like your Steam page is bombarded with them. I have so many games that I have bought but just haven't got around to playing. Even hardcore gamers are feeling fatigued because it feels impossible to keep up with every single new title. So even if a game is an amazing, GOTY contender it's almost impossible to stand out without a AAA marketing team. It'll just get lost in the sea of games on the Steam storefront.
@@themagictoaster2472 And that doesn't even cover this fact: This year has been, I think, the best year of my entire life for new video game releases. The fact that games like Tears of the Kingdom or Baulder's Gate 3 might not win game of the year, because they're competing with each other that year... That is a rare occurrence. And that doesn't even cover the games that I haven't played (yet). I look back over my steam history... And it's insane how good the games this year have been.
Maybe next time, you don’t consult with Sweet Baby for your games. A shame too, they had real promise and vision as a studio.
As much as I love the weekly news roundup, it is really nice to see some more in-depth content from Shillup! Strongly encourage more content like this, of whatever subject matter you feel like tbh
@@stardustdragonx3612 who asked?
@@MegaKrinklenobody asked you for your input
@@Phantom-kc9lyThats the whole point of the coment section, give feedback on the content. And I also would love to see skill up do some in depth "special", besides his reviews and weekly news videos.
Ive been a fan of Dayz and the devs for years and to see their response to this mess and their for no apparent reason celebration got me clapping my knees and rising my respect for them ten fold, loved to see that shit.
how do you clap your knees
Slap your knees@@hyuichi5918
Definitely meant to say "slapping"@@hyuichi5918
@@hyuichi5918I'd guess he meant slap
...but he edited it to clapping?@@Artemi22
i honestly respect the Fact you put your Sponsor at the end so much, that i actually watched the entire thing.
Normally i skip Sponsors when i haven't watched the UA-camr yet. But your Video was really great :D
One thing that is worth mentioning though is that it's almost impossible to calculate a developer's net profits from these sort of public facing numbers when a publisher is involved. It's entirely possible that all profits from The Day Before went toward the publisher's recoup, and I've known of contracts where the developer received only 50% or less of the net in royalties even after recoup (and that's before taxes).
Which isn't to defend Fntastic at all, mind you, it's just to point out that if this were some alternate reality where they weren't dragging entire carts of red flags behind them, the claim that they haven't seen any money from TDB isn't at all unbelievable. And while in this case I have no doubt that Fntastic made off with a large sum of money in some form, you unfortunately can't assume that a dev sees 70% of whatever their games make on Steam, unless they've self-published and have no overhead to speak of.
Again though, this isn't to absolve Fnatical because likely most of whatever the publisher invested was pocketed anyway, given the state of the game.
Hey, its duskdev! Me and my friends absolutely love your games! Thanks for actually providing amazing games, unlike the clowns mentioned in the video!
Oh shit it's David Syzmanski himself! I loved Dusk bro!!!!
Maybe the company hasn't seen any "profit" but the brothers paid themselves 200k salaries + 300k "travel expenses". So yea maybe there was no solid profit, because the leaders pocketed all of it. And there's no way they paid that money back
Yeah, the financial part of the video was very oversimplified.
Wasn't it revealed that Mytona and Fntastic were basically the same people?
There has to be criminal charges to indict this disgraceful company, wow. This is shameful!
I'm sure the super legit Russian judicial system will get right on that lmao
If you bought this pos game i really think its your own fault ,like how dumb are people man
@@41rmartin aren't they registered in Singapore?
@@inxiveneoy for tax purposes, yeah. But any money that they didn't move into Singapore will be fine
@41rmartin Maybe they'll "accidentally" fall out of a window in Russia but that usually if you're just saying something against the shady shit Putin does like those doctors did with covid. All that education and they didn't know to be safe around open windows....
I love how after the apocalypse all of the lights are still working in the trailer
Ну, _это_ они исправили к релизу 😂
Right? “Whole world’s gone but come on y’all it’s Christmas gotta string up the lights!”
Depending on the country the eletricity might hold for years, in Brazil most of our elecricity comes from hydroeletric dams that mostly work by themselves so street lights might function for 10+ years if everyone dies
@@Strix2031 The grid would be looted and stripped bare within days and nobody would be maintaining substations, lines, etc
@@WORLDCRUSHER9000 True that, maybe would last a few months. I doubt people would be looting copper wires or eletrical machinery when they cant really sell it to anyone but weirder things have happend during less apocaplyptic outbreaks
One thing is for sure, they are good at marketing...horrible marketing, but still managed to convince the hell out of many people.
Man I really liked listening to Skillup use his speech organs to explain why this game is hysterical.
Speech organs shall live in infamy.
I too am a human who very much enjoyed listening to the human known as "Skill Up" engage their speech organs.
@@starslayer8390with you fellow human friend, we are three human beings who enjoyed the sounds produced by skillup speech organs, let us wave our prehensile appendages in the air
His speech organs satisfied our aural organs
Personally, I prefer speech pianos to speech organs.
They really played the long con. People are going to be less wary of buying an early access game than they are of paying for a Kickstarter that might not produce anything. These guys fully played into the “it’s real, you just have to buy it” to generate a false sense of trust, and I almost admire their willingness to wait three years before sticking their hands out for their payday.
One can respect their crafty and clever execution, I still hate scammers with every fiber of my being, but they do indeed know how to play the manipulation game.
People bought bs before this, people will buy bs after. Did you forget about fyre festival, dashcon, fallout 76, suicide squad, the list could go on.
Edit: I also forgot to mention just the mass amounts of crypto currency scams even big UA-camrs are apart of.
The amount of smugness that the DayZ team unleashed on The Day Before's grave is so fucking amazing.
I don’t know why they’re bragging when their own game is more broken and still unfinished.
@@BungieStudios At least it's a playable game, though 💀
@@WestGarbage6 Not because of Bohemia though, as always it relies on its community to fix their broken garbage just enough to keep life in it.
They should make that meme of guy taking selfie on grave
Unbeleiveable that people have any fuckin faith in any "zombie crafting survival mmo" game, those 4 words are all red flags.
Having completely missed this saga due to falling into the warhammer hole for the last 2 years, this video was an amazing look over this game and stuido. Thank you for making this.
Total war? Or something else?
@@reddeath707 or the plastic/ lore addiction?
Well, to be fair
The Emperor Expects.
@@reddeath707 both AOS and 40k minis and games
@@slambaz2 Godspeed, you magnificent bastard.
That was like listening to a murder mystery. A fantastic tale of mystery and intrigue. Twists and turns. Ups and downs. All of it coming together in a head on collision of a finale 😮 I really enjoyed my bucket of popcorn with this one.
Tune in next year for the conpletionist teardown
Don't you mean fntastic xd
xD lolling ROFL@@sphingxx
One of the best gaming dramas of the year. Only Jirad gives it a run for the money (pun intended) coming in in the twilight of the year.
seriously and here I was thinking it couldn't get worse after redfall or gollum LMAO
*Jirard
Yeah I wonder what's going on behind the scenes at the fps podcast in regards to this.
@onionheadguy7094 didn't you hear? He got removed from the podcast
@@Independenceday95 I didn't hear, thank you for telling me
I remember seeing the trailer and I was thinking “this game is going to be unbelievable. “ well I guess I was right 😂
This teardown is completely brilliant. The delivery of the narration - the incredulity, the stunned shock, the air quotes, the excellent recap of the crazy story changing and covering up after themselves that all true scammers/plagiarists do. Another in a long line of asset flip scam games, but hey, at least this and other videos about it are way more entertaining than the "games" they are based on.
I remember seeing the devs put a little snippet of the jeep getting stuck in the mud on Reddit, and I immediately knew it was never going anywhere. Promised way too much
It's like a metaphor. The jeep got stuck and so did the game. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
Hyper-realistic=possible???
Open world=possible???
Jeep in mud=complete scam
Realistic mud/vehicle interaction is a very important feature!
The funniest part of The Day Before is that all of the things that were supposed to be the selling point are done better somewhere else. Hell, get the right mods on a multiplayer server and you can have Project Zomboid do all that and more.
every modern survival PvPvE game wishes it was DayZ and falls short every time
I love Project Zomboid, but one of the reasons I love it is because it's a potato version of DayZ. If I had DayZ, I would probably play that more than Zomboid
@amentalio011 bro i love DayZ but if you want a zombie experience project zomboid is far superior.
@@dominickmaddox9576dayz is more about the human d!ckheads than anything zombie
i can't even recall a single zombie manage to dmg me in that game
@@dominickmaddox9576I also recently found something that seems to be a parent of some kind for project zomboid, it's called Cataclysm: Dark Days ahead. It seems to be some weird big thing and is actually considered an open world rougelike
6:09
I AM a game developer, and I can confirm that is BEYOND fishy. Rule ONE of using an engine like Unreal and Unity is that you stick to the EXACT version you start with. Just updating an Unreal project with the latest tiny patch is enough to potentially break everything. Jumping from Unreal 4 to 5 would be a MASSIVE undertaking.
I'm not a game dev, and even *I* knew that! If you start a project in one version of software and then that software gets an update, you finish the project with the software version you started it on, otherwise everything goes to Hell in a handbasket!
Ralph. I had an old division video of yours pop up the other day... it reminded me I have been watching you for 7 years. And I still love your content as much as day 1. Thanks dude. Good work.
I remember those days
I would absolutely love to see more of these types of videos on this channel. As much as I love the reviews and round ups your story telling ability is amazing and shouldn't be put on the side.
I agree!
Moral of the story, every game should have a playable demo before launch
The good old days
And a playable beta a year before launch
Ouya mindset.
All Capcom games have demos x) That's why I like Capcom!
Baldurs Gate 3 was early access.
A moment of silence for all those characters who got stuck in eternally falling purgatory 😔
“I have been FALLING for 30 minutes!”
This video really highlights some of the red flags that many other creators missed about this "game". I would love more content like this in the future!
I heard this game was a scam all the way back when they were sharing fakes screen shots. It was painfully obvious it was a scam, it’s amazing so many people still fell for it.
I called out red flags from Cyberpunk for about a year and a half, and man... The hate I got was quite something.
The shame is that their scam was partially successful. Yeah, Steam de-listed it once they realized it was a scam. Yes, you can request a refund. But not all users will request a refund which means some money will go to these scammers and some already has. I wish Steam took the measures to reverse every cent away from these scammers back to the customers. To see the wish-list numbers, purchases, and player count numbers that they saw, receive all the attention that they got with all the red flags being discovered, and STILL pull it off is troubling. The size and scale of this scam made me wonder if this was not some money laundering scheme.
Actually, that's a whole new discussion brought to the table that I think should be brought up.
Nostalgia-based, immersive, difficult, overall really fun games, with good gameplay and way better actual graphics than this shitshow of a game somehow couldn't even get within a few THOUSAND players of this game, the game that everybody ALREADY suspected was a scam, and KNEW wouldn't live up to the hype, because of what had been shown.
It IS kind of suspicious that some game that had been DEBUNKED to have had fake reveal trailers, and boring ass gameplay to the highest degree, somehow became the most wishlisted game on Steam, and then have the most purchases out of most of the big games of the recent few years.
It's very plausible that the whole thing could've just been a money laundering scheme, but that all depends on the refund numbers, really, if over half the people who bought the game originally refunded it, I'd say no, but otherwise it's very possible.
@@WestGarbage6To add to the conspiracy theory, it's really really strange and suspicious that they closed the studio just days after the game flopped. Not even hello games gave up after the no man's sky disaster.
@@elbolainas4174I’m glad hello games didn’t give up, no man’s sky is actually decent now. They had a real comeback story with that game
If a game promises to be everything….
It’s a scam, there’s a reason why it hasn’t been done before.
Especially from a small unknown studio.
This was always one of my sticking points. When a AAA studio struggles with games promising less in scope, how is this small dev with volunteers going to do it? Even if they got the basics in, I foresaw a mess of bugs and weird interactions with all those systems colliding. It was never going to work no matter what.
The Gaming population was supposed to have learned the lesson once and for all when No Man's Sky released ffs.
This is why it is abhorrent what The Game Awards did this year. Devs NEED to be given a voice, because no one knows how videogames, and games development, and the games industry actually works!
Starfield be like
Yet conversely you've got Lies Of P which is from a mostly unknown studio that made one of the best Soulsborne style games I've ever played, and it's flown under a lot of people's radars. Which released in a highly playable state with very few technical errors, fewer than Starfield I find.
To be fair, Marvel's spiderman held that promise. Not all games are scams. This one on the other hand is a massive shit show 😂
Who's here to re-watch this after the privacy claim news dropped?
pal, they are back on Kickstarter to convince people to give money on a new game, and apparently selling T-shirts...
Wait what happened?
@@TK--hf6dbthe bros threaten video takedown citing doxxing of their identity even though they are in public domain and released by their own
@HowToChangeName when did this happen?
Nobody you troll
I really think there needs to be an even harder look at FNTASTICs financials around this whole shitshow.
With the amount of refunds not taken, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if someone dug deep enough to find out that this had been a money laundering scam too.
I can also almost guarantee you that the brothers will be back again under a different name and brand.
The whole thing seems linked to organized crime (or that it turned into one after the ultra quality trailers) involving much larger levels of money laundering. The two brothers cannot possibly justify their travel lifestyle from the milestone proceeds from their publisher.
Saw plenty of those wannabe tech bros during the crypto craze.
I literally never heard of this game until this past week and I am genuinely mind boggled at how deep this goes, like this has been good ng on forever and I never knew lmao
Star Citizen players be like "Damn I am glad I didnt fall for this scam"
The day before dreams to be on the same level as Star Citizen. SC is actually kind of massive.
M8 digital items ant real....... get help, no one impressed its like nfts @NikFlyer
@@NikFlyer Still a scam.
@@Alas7eR facts
@@Alas7eR eh, not really, you have to be blind to say that lol
This is probably the fastest post-release nuclear meltdown of a game I've ever seen. It's almost impressive, frankly.
Gamedev here. When we launch a title, there's a proportional element of reacting to player feedback. It might be what we are already expecting and have built our roadmaps to accommodate, it might be a course correction, or it could be a complete U-Turn. There's quite a bit of nail biting and fretting over player feedback when we press that big green GO button, because we're often too entrenched to really know how this thing we've poured years of time and effort into will be received. Could be great. Could result in layoffs. It's cutthroat. There's a lot of 'average joes', or games that just didn't find their audience out there, and I always encourage people to return to those titles, measure it fairly or just give it a chance, and question whether those negative first impressions you had were a kneejerk reaction.
This is not one of those times. This is not one of those games. This is an absolute bastardization of an industry I love and pour so much effort into, and I am genuinely sorry to any developer that was swept up in the promises made by these greedy brothers.
The industry itself is garbage.
You don't need to publish and sell a game if what you want is to make a piece of art.
What you're confusing is making money. You're just thinking of the comfort of game developing as a business being endangered by bad businessmen.
People will continue to make games they want to make regardless of the state of the industry and how much money they can make. They're not looking for a public to milk.
Making a game is art first, if that's not the priority you're already making games for the wrong reason.
@@lasarousi
money can be exchanged for goods and services. most people like having goods and services.
@@d.h.foster8937 Need=\= want.
The perceived need of money is just sugar coated way for compromising art by forcing it into a career.
Nobody forced you to owe money you don't truly need. Don't make the act of money making an honorary thing, it's just a fact of life.
@lasarousi I couldn't agree more, but the art cannot happen if there is no reasonable cause for monetary investment, that's unfortunately the reality of consumerism. :(
@@phixix surely, a victim of the system when the product we provide has such subjective value.
I remember seeing the announcement trailer for this and thought "This looks too good to be true I know theres going to be video essays on how this became dogshit, I just know it"
37:56 "This manager told them there had never been any fantastic staff there"
Brutal.
Fun fact: If you pay close attention to all the notices released by the company developing the game you will notice that their choice of words and way phrases are made pretty much feels like it was written by AI instead of actual humans. Even if the founders of the company may not be fluent in english any translator app would not mess that up.
nah man, the slavic-romanic automatic translation is atrocious, trust me, and the languages are structured differently enough that even relatively fluent people constantly use the oddest turns of phrase.
Just like the engine they were suppose to use, turns out everything was actually UNREAL 😂
YEAHHHHHH!!!!
I see what ya did there
This game has the greatest spoon-strapped-to-a-backpack animation of all time. 10/10
Scamming has become so commonplace in today's world. In my naivety, I used to think that scamming, false advertising and misleading consumers was illegal, but clearly not.
it is illegal, but if a punishment for a crime is not enforced the act itself becomes basically legal. it makes me sad that everyone's laughing and joking about how this game 'failed'. are we forgetting that the two brothers pocketed 3 million bucks and disappeared? they deserve jail time but they apparently got away with everything
Its because most of these things comes from different countries with different laws, something illegal in the US might have a loophole/ not illegal in other countries....
Meaning arresting them is very difficult
It's illegal but that doesn't mean theres any consequences to it your government and media scam you every day and get away with it.
@@_holy__ghostno, don't just jail em, force em to pay everyone back. That would teach em sumn better, then jail as dessert
@@yoga5631you're correct, but Christ.
Scams, false advertisement, and just being generally misleading about products and services is so common nowadays.
I think this is something that countries internationally need to look at working on, because it's endemic.
The fact that someone even left a positive review... Shows you there are always sycophants willing to defend anything for the sake of defending. It gives them a special feeling of fulfillment.
Nah, probably just a joke review. I see those all the time.
sometimes people just like shit or feel that things don't deserve all the negative reactions they get for whatever reason, man
No...the most amazing part of all this is people actually stood up for these people and their weird actions.
Who did?
@@bonko86 too many.... so many 'argument's' in streams trying to explain to people why the game was getting hate... and they just could not grasp what so many were telling them. too many people thinking that every one is brain dead and just hopping on the 'hate train'...
@bonko86 Dude everyone like even my good friend was like yeah I was hoping it would become something someday like bro come on
Most people don't like admitting they've been scammed, so a lot of them will double down and defend the scammer and go down with the ship.
You made a video that takes 47min. feel like 15!
Completely entertained from start to finish. Awesome work! :D
Bruh I'm 24 minutes in and didn't even realize it's been that long. Especially didn't know it's supposed to be 47 minutes lmfao. That's wild.
i put it on as background for my shower and ended up wrapped in my towel for 40 minutes holy shit
@@lrkouzelis
MOOD
I think the lesson I've learnt in all of this is that you can get incredibly far these days with store assets. When I still used to try to make games (15 years ago) you spent all your time on gameplay and your graphics was a bunch of squares (side note: this is why Thomas Was Alone looks like it does: Bithell was building the game with dev art and realised there was a cool story to be had in leaving it in that style). Now though, that relationship has completely flipped: there is so much high quality assets out there you can get something that to the eye looks like a professional game, without a shred of game design required.
This reminds me of when I made school projects: huge ambition, procrastination, plagiarism, delays and then a half assed product that flops 😂
Usually though, most people actually listen to criticism, an internal sense of analysis, and after a number of big failures move on to something else. These guys rejected all sense of criticism as fake, their was zero introspection, and the consistently pumped out bad product after bad product in such a way that you could Tell they didn't give a fuck about destroying lives in order to line their pockets. Hmm, kind of like their leader, so monkey see monkey do. I stand by the fact that most people don't want to wilfully destroy others lives, and to the extent that people do, either they don't want to accept the risk of blow back, or don't have the skills to pull it off. The brothers had just the right amount of narcissism to blow smoke up enough asses, enough sociopathy to keep running a scam they knew would harm others, the lack of intelligence to know how it could all come back to bite them and the stones to keep up a front, and the skills necessary to keep it afloat until they got their payday.
I remember wishlisting this game purely to keep an eye on how far off the promised product it would be on release and gawk, provided that ever would happen (which I was 75% sure it wouldn't, I've played too may early access survival games; I can't not know better).
I feel like most people wishlisting it were in the same boat, I refuse to believe most gamers aren't jaded enough to look at this and think "zero shot this is happening"
Maybe same were hoping for a cyberpunk Situation too
As someone in the legal profession, I can shed a bit of light on the trademark issue. While every jurisdiction is different, in the United States, generally speaking, one can send a cease and desist for any reason. It's not a legally binding document and merely serves as a notification that one party believes they have cause to sue another party. It is not uncommon for companies to send cease and desist letters, without any actual intention of pursuing litigation, as the mere threat is sometimes sufficient to get what they want.
It's not clear to me in which jurisdiction the lawsuit of the calendar app took place, but I can say with some certainty that it would likely have played out that way in most U.S. jurisdictions as well. There are various different tests that different courts apply to trademark disputes, but a core element of all of them is the likelihood of confusion between two products. If they are substantially different products, the chance of confusion is low, and it is unlikely for a court to find trademark infringement is occurring.
Another A+ video essay Ralph. Knowing that the two guys scrubbed their social medias is crazy. They are like cartoon level thieves trying to run a scam. The internet has a long memory so just deleting everything was dumb as hell.
Yeh but then again people still trust peter molyneux lul
Love the vid. Way better than most other youtubers, no annoying narration, unbiased, use different sources, not too many cuts.
The Day Before really made me realize that we as gamers really deserve for game companies to take advantage of us because how could there be so many people that thought to give that game a try after seeing everything that was being presented.
Nah it is merely a point of perspective. You as a person watching this video is already more engaged in video games than probably 95% of the total demographic that is actively playing video games. Yes this does of course include mobile accounts etc., but it would be silly to assume that mobile players could never grow in their interest and swap to a more core platofrm and video games.
Therefore you can compare this to, really any other product which runs on quality and not quantity (...usually), like computers, audio equipment, cars, smart phones etc... For some people this game might have been the only one they got algorithmed by and were like "wow, this looks awesome!" without having any idea that of course games are just "another" industry in the current day and age and might just feel too innocent about it because they got really sucked into gaming as a hobby more and more.
Maybe you see where I am coming from? I agree with your statement fully on pre-orders and just being fine with a lot of bullshit microtransaction bc people can't regulate their dopamine hits, a lot of people deserve to be ripped off in those cases imo as well.
It's wild because this is a PC only game most people on PC should at least be have someone they know in the loop talking about this shit. Like "hey did you hear about this wild scam videogame".
@@muckdriver Yeah and if you wishlist the game then that means that you would be following updates on it.
@@HeadshotyTSWthis is exactly what i’ve been saying, most ppl are “casual” gamers nd just take things at face value
You speak like they didn’t have polished trailers that even IGN believed were real enough to publish on their channel. They lied to their publishers too, it’s not the consumers fault for the deception.
I only know this game exists because a youtuber/streamer i watch regularly was excited for this game and it wasn't anything like his usual content (he really only plays RTS games)
And during the entire stream of the game on day 1 release, he was getting progressively more and more disappointed. 2 days later he'd upload a video venting about he felt scammed.
So this game will eternally be remembered to me as "That Scam Game that made Dominator very sad"
More video essays please. This was incredible! Great job Skillup crew!
this is not a video essay lol
yeah i was like "wtf is he on about?!"@@casey_sux
Yes it is LOL
a form of essay presented as a video recording, where the author uses visual elements like footage and editing techniques to analyze a topic, express an opinion, and develop an argument @casey_sux
This is basically a game ad we saw everyday that looks really fun, and when you enter there is totally a different game inside
This is just 10/10 peak Skill Up content right here
All right. Enough of the blow jobs already.
Wouldn't it be insane of both brothers turned out to be AI constructs?
The only reason that would be insane is because they would have started a few years before AI got to where it is now. If they had started now, I wouldn't be surprised one bit in the slightest
The dudes are AI, but the dog in that one video was real and also the mastermind behind the scam
@@ashb7 legit.
Yes, but only if it means the company was run by the dog, who was the ringleader all along!
@@ctdaniels7049 Silent Hill ass plot lmao
Hell yeah, almost an hour of SkillUp dunking on The Day Before, sign me in
I still remember when some people said this game couldn't be a scam because "how would they get a publisher involved if the game isn't real"? Turns out a game can still be real in the sense that it exists and is 'playable' (barely) and still be a scam. It used deceptive tactics to try and sell people into something that would never meet the advertised quality, increase visibility for the studio's other projects and get interested 'volunteers' to work for no pay.
Also just because the scam is hilariously stupid, doomed to fail and makes no sense to anyone with 3 braincells, doesn't mean it's not a scam.
Yes, please join the fold of video essayists. I for one was thoroughly entertained and I think you ought to do this stuff more often. Can't have too many excellent video creators 👍
Arent like, all of his reviews video essays?...
@@TheSergio1021 I don't think so. I think reviews are helpful in order for consumers to make informed decisions. Essays are a lot more free form, and while they often have something to say, the message is rarely, "buy (or don't buy) this product".
I think it was just the way it was edited, he doesnt seem to do any editing so I'd give props to whoever put this vid together
@@j-frost freeform in what way? He still followed the basic structure only he talked less about gameplay and more about the company because there was literally no gameplay to speak of.
Nah this wasn't pretentious enough to be a game essay
Amazing accomplishment to get a video out this long, informative and supremely entertaining with everything else you guys have going on. Thank you for this, and it looks like the next video or two for Shill Up will be his 1 million sub celebration. Cheers
I love that you go with the "but wait, there's more" route and let us enjoy the trainwreck when it hits 😂
Yeah, love hearing that phrase/ meme for the 657,2648,4628,182,618th time.
@@damngamgee3739 plug your ears
21:04 This one is actually pretty simple! In many MMORPG's players tend to enjoy the roleplay aspect of the open world games, the musician job could be used to cater towards those people as they take up a big chunk of MMORPG players alongside PvP players and the such! Hope this helps!
I remember hearing about this game, people saying "looks like another game where they over-promise in the trailers", "let's wait and see...", and thinking that I'll come see the results in 2-3 years when the game is released.
Even after watching this I had thought I was watching a video on events that had happened years ago. Imagine my surprise when I find out the game was released 3 weeks ago! I'm such a different person compared to who I was 5 years ago that it's blowing my mind how that innocuous trailer I passed by long time ago only released its game.
I'm glad this video exists just so we can all have a laugh for years to come.
Can I just say that *THIS* is game Journalism. Thank you SkillUp!
For his sacrifice
@jezushchrist We promise we won't let this transgression go to waist!
What a saga! Masterfully researched, organized and told - this was a really fun watch.
Wouldn't be surprised if a bigger company such as Rockstar actually makes a successful game on what this scam game could've given players and it turns out to be a real deal
I'm pretty sure 90% of Open World Zombie Survival games are scams, this one was just on another level. With AI improving every day we're going to need to be even more vigilant.
just dont buy games on day 1 and let reviewers do their jobs and we dont even have to stress about vigilance that much. all the kids today wont have the wisdom or patience to ever stop preordering games.
Everybody pining for one should try Project Zomboid 😅
This might be one of the biggest clown takes in this comment section
@@as1tis as a huge fan of PZ while I do agree, god is their update cycle one of the slowest things ever. It has been like 10 years and the game is still no where near full release and B42 has been teased for a.... very long time. Like I said, a good game but this dev cycle ain't it.
@@user-to1su2iy4dI don’t see why 😂😂 unintelligent people usually just say stuff like what you did and not give any examples. You were emotionally triggered and had no factual responses
Between this and the completionists career being over, it’s a fun time for these sort of scam examination videos
Except they're not really examining the completionist as they should. This game was an obvious scam months ago and everyone is getting refunded, Jirard scammed a charity which I feel is a much worse dick move and he just gets to quietly slink away on his own terms with barely a peep.
@@Zeropointill no. But you get what I’m saying. Hopefully we do get even closer looks soon at whatever the heck is going on
Don't expect SkillUp and/or any FPS Podcast members to properly address a former members' criminal activities.
@@ZeropointillI don't think it's really fair to expect his friends to pile on his failure. There are plenty enough ppl covering it.
@@kiwd-dynamic they’ve already addressed it twice. Once on the podcast about him temporarily stepping away from the podcast and one on Twitter about him stepping away permanently.
My jaw physically, literally, dropped multiple times throughout this video lmao. Awesome work my man.
I was just thinking after you said the word plagiarism I was like "oh haha I've seen plagiarism a lot more since the James Somerton video dropped" and then you directly referenced him lol
Funnily enough, he was also a massive liar, going on about facts he pulled right out of his ass. Perhaps these developers have more in common with James Somerton than we think.
I ultimately resisted the pull, but I wonder how many other people bought it to simply be a part of the moment and experience how spectacularly bad it was gonna be. I thankfully had no idea it had actually released, or I may have too.
It's a shame when, like you said, legitimately good games sell so poorly that small or even large studios close while a game like this can sell numbers as the purchase equivalent of shitposting or off those who somehow still got scammed after all the red flags.
Repeat after me
Pre order=scam
Repeat till u accept the truth.
This whole story is just unbelievable. I hope they get sued from every angle possible and face the legal consequences. There's just no way they can get away with this.
They are ruSSian so nothing will happen, and were just as likely enabled by their goverment to milk money for the orc horde.
How are they going to get sued. They live in Russia. Who's going to go after them.
@@AleksandrStrizhevskiySingapur isnt in Russia
Both offices were fakes! Just place holders! They ain't in Singapore, they're in Russia, they have been there since the begining.
@@hitmanCZ Watch the video before commenting.
Hopefully this inspires some developers to make a game like what was promised. It’s like those mobile game ads where they play it wrong so you want to download it, but with game development.
If anything it'll inspire more devs to be this shaddy, gamers have practically 0 impulse buying control & absolute horrible memory.
We'll throw out money at anything and this just serves as a damning evidence that gamers will buy anything gaming devs plops out.
This will inspire the oposite since people have shown to willingly pay for products without caring about the obvious red flags. If anything, more scams like The Day Before will arise in the future.
@@newyou6210 exactly this! the average consumer isn't watching these videos because they just want to game, even if its as shit as this game. I saw plenty of comments on reddit and even on the steam discussions that people found this fun...you just can't do anything about these types of people. They will buy the worst game ever regardless of how bad the dev behind the scenes is. Same with all the Ultimate Team systems from EA or the gambling stuff in NBA. The majority will buy it and enjoy sadly because they don't care for anything else.
Not at all, the other devs I've spoken to especially other indie devs we've said this is painting us in a bad light and will be skeptical about purchasing games in the future even though like myself we strive for perfection. I test my gameplay after every single update over and over till I'm happy with the outcome, that small bit in the video about not being able to loot the box without being in a certain position would have infuriated me, So I personally wouldn't have stopped with that until that function was 100% pleasing. It seems like Fntastic just took shortcuts as they knew budget was running out and needed to get the game out ASAP before they went skint.@@newyou6210
or it could also be the opposite , if more game developers begin making money through scams like this.
The lesson from it, is: players are morons and there will be always someone exploiting that and making money of them. Pretty much whole AAA industry does that.
I am an artist in russian game dev industry and I regret to report that things got progressively worse with sanctions. Big game dev is essentially non-existent in present-day Russia and I myself worked for an indie dev company that shut down for similar reasons. I remember being excited about The Day Before and even considered trying to apply for a job at Fntastic… Boy what an ending… I’m extremely disappointed.
Enjoy your sanctious its your fault
@@vitek245 yeah its my fault i wasn’t old enough to vote 😊😊😊 i got you
i hate this war as much as anyone else and as you see sanctions failed miserably in trying to put an end to it
it’s only regular people being affected by them
@@vitek245You’re not very smart are you
@@Assassins-RP your family and you are safe, arent they? Or you are just ruzzian
@@vitek245your type of guy who would condone genocide against the russian people
Fntastic changed their studio name on Steam to Eight Points. Can’t wait to see this whole song and dance go down again in a couple years.
i love how much fun you're having with this story. I mean, we all saw it coming but you are at least getting some good entertainment out of this fiasco!