Tumblr's FAKEST Story: The Tale of Oppa Homeless Style
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2021
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Extraterrestrial (by Epidemic Sound) epidemicsound.com/creator
Kevin McLeod - Hiding Your Reality
Kevin McLeod - Bass Soli
Zoë Blade - Walking in the Rain
Voice Acting:
Protagonist - Kharla (Trials & Trebuchets)
Villain - Sam (Trials & Trebuchets)
Homeless Man - NathanWhy ( / why_nathan ) - Розваги
I hope y'all enjoy this video. Captions will be up in the next couple of days!
we very much did!! thank you for your hard work, this is amazing
Sarah, your merch store link in the description is coming up: "Page not found." !!
oh, somehow it has a "%E2%80%8B" at the end of the link; probably youtube adding strange things to links that are copy pasted. Your store is fine, but the click to link is what's broke
Hey, are you tired of real posts? Just cluttering up your feed, where you open ’em, and they actually go somewhere? Not our posts! These posts don’t go anywhere. Try to open em. It ain't gonna open. I guarentee it. We have fake posts like you wouldn’t believe! What are you worried about? Come get fake posts. Call us up, and order some fake posts today. Don’t even hesitate, Don’t even worry and don’t even give it a second thought. That’s our slogan. See it on the bottom of the screen, below our name. Here’s another slogan, right below that one. What are you worried about? Come get fake posts. Get in here quick, get out quicker, with an arm of fake posts in you arms.
Will there be captions for the onceler fic i'm asking for myself
*does a little pitch-perfect korean style dance that pisses you off*
makes a fake little post that turns you into a white supremacist
FUCK
ten minutes in: "oh, silly tumbler and their silliness".
thirty minutes in: "nevermind, it's the proto-nazis again".
It feels so weird that growing up I fell into a community that was pretty much founded by 1 conservative neckbeard redditor that hated fat women. I feel so duped, so ashamed.
It’s so annoying that 90% of random internet weirdness boils down to fckin nazis or Qanon idiots etc. like we can’t have anything fun 😡
I just got done with the post section and reading “it’s the proto-nazis again” fills me with both shocking confusion and familiar disappointment
@@cinnis5670 You shouldn't. You should feel happy that you have enough intelligence to reflect and change.
Y’know how in the Marvel Universe, it’s always Nazis? Well, that’s like... real life 😂 It always comes back to fuckin Nazis 🤦♀️
that twitter post that's like "twitter is 90% someone imagining a guy, tricking themself into believing that guy exists, and getting mad about it" except it applies to every website ever
Is anyone even real? Are all the edgelords, idiots and bigots secretly just straw men?
@@justas423 Alright I'll finally admit it. Ben Shapiro pays me to run those accounts. They're all me
@@randomusername1735 you need any help running these accounts? maybe let benny boy know there's someone willing to help for the small price of $5000 per post
@@Dethamaranth buy my words. Permanently. for $8000 a month I will write doublethink pieces for the legendary masculine icon that inspired the fucky moon emoji 🌝
In this day and age, Tik Tok. I know people who straight up believe schools are installing litter boxes for furries because someone on the internet told them so. Not a skeptical cell in their brains.
The most realistic part of this story is the part where a person from New York City immediately mentions they're from New York City.
Well I'm from Utica, and I've never heard anyone use the phrase "Oppa homeless style".
Well it’s an Albany expression
@@bulbakingdoot3514 I see
I'm from the Bronx...
this is so accurate lol im from Manhattan and I try my best to work that into *every conversation*
and then everyone clapped
Then Obama appeared
@@haveagoodday7021 he wants his shoelaces back
@@haveagoodday7021 Can confirm, I was Obama
Obama's last name? Einstein.
Obama was there.
People joke about how Sarah is a “Tumblr historian”. But as a history major, that’s literally what she is. She does verbatim what me and my peers do. But instead of papers, she just uses a video format.
If science is around in a few years, shit like this video would be what papers are written about. This kind of disinformation spiral has huge real world effects and really needs to be understood better. *glances at UK media*
@@fy8798 I mean there are plenty of paper written about small social phenomina, and this is kinda like that.
as another history mayor i confirm this allegation and i raise a motion to formally give sarah the history mayor's diploma
That's why it's called a "video essay."
As a fellow history major when I watch her videos it always motivates me to work on my thesis and do research, she reminds me of what I love to do
Reddit: "My parents will literally believe anything they see online, when will they learn?"
Also Reddit: "Wow, these posts are from real people who ACTUALLY THINK THIS WAY"
Nice profile pic 👍
Profile picture, yay
It’s ironic how gullible the “skeptic” community was lol
they became the very thing they strove to destroy
Gullibility implies unintended and good-faith buying in. The ringleaders of these groups were and remain grifters, collecting audiences who are easy to hawk shoddy merchandise and brand deals to once they've been made angry enough to stay on the video. I'm sure most of these people either knew many of these stories were fake or had a strong suspicion, but literally didn't care because good outrage makes good money independently of truth.
"um excuse you, this never happened. first of all, very few if any drinking establishments would allow a horse entry, and in most of them the horse would be too large to fit through the door. second of all, despite what the classic tv show Mr. Ed would have you think, horses are incapable of speech, so the horse would not be able to communicate with the bar tender. you must think we're really stupid to expect us to believe this, lol"
skeptic community was always gullible
There's an entire strata of grift that exists specifically to trick people who think they're too smart to be tricked.
"The Search for Oppa Homeless Style"
*"Content warning: This video contains discussions of racism, misogyny, body shaming, and transphobia"*
That took a turn
That escalated quickly
lol
Of course it does when reddits involved
i showed this video to my five month old daughter and she said "is this what the culture wars are? just a bunch of sad people inventing an enemy to fight against, one that never stood a chance because their every action was dictated by their opposition?"
Hey wait a minute, this can't be real, there's no way a 5 month old would have an attention span long enough for an hour long video
i love when a youtube comment makes me giggle, thank you
And then your family clapped😆 beautiful
I showed your comment to all my friends and they all cheered and clapped
Come on dude, I was there, you _know_ she was 6 months
“They aren’t engaging with reality; they’re engaging with a villain of their own creation and they’re rewarding themselves by creating more of it”
THIS is the argument I could never articulate when talking to people/friends who always complain about these outlandish instances of “these damn leftists/liberals” as a basis for their own beliefs… Bless you omg
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"Man I really hate the things that I hate"
@@tortis6342 “that’s why I make the things that I hate so I can hate them even more”
Don't know if this is appropriate, but this is all giving me big Mysterio vibes, specifically from the plot of Spider-Man: Far From Home where, (spoilers, but like, who cares on this side of the internet) he's effectively just earning public clout and public trust by birthing otherworldly monsters and defeating them in front of everyone who can see him and broadcast his good work. It's like a self pat on the back for an achievement, if the achievement part was all a delusion and not indicative of your ability to actually contribute to the good in the world.
tbh my anti-sjw phase was triggered by people who either must be dedicating a lot of time to fake a convincing presence if they fake, or I straight up knew IRL. (The ones I knew IRL were actually mostly white cis(passing?) guys who I'm not aware are part of any minority). Finding out people make up stories on the internet to make minorities look bad actually brings me *out* of it bc while I've met frustratingly self-righteous, willfully blind and cancel-happy libs, at least they weren't *liars*
Geez, this video causes me reevaluate my critical thinking skills. I don't think I ever stopped to consider that obviously bogus stories might be written with the intention of being recognized as fake in order to make the group the writer purports to represent look like liars.
Oppa Homeless Style is a fake story: Best post, glorious meme, nothing will top it
Oppa Homeless Style is a *fake* fake story: Betrayal. Horror. Worst thing ever. How dare you abuse our trust like this.
Im never gonna be able to trust obvious fake posts again smh
I feel this
I was gonna start asking people what character from Oppa Homeless Style they are instead of asking about their star sign... But now I don't want to don't want to anymore 💔
really? it's the opposite for me. I was never comfortable with those fake stories where you were supposed to make fun of the SJW. The fact that it was made up by a bigot to make marginalised groups look bad makes a lot of sense and is much better. It exposes them in a way
@@buchelaruzit Because it never read as targeting sjw's, it read as someone making up a ridiculous story for clout and getting rightfully mocked for it. Having it BE a case of targeting sjw's after all just leaves it with a bad aftertaste.
"oppa homeless style" is a phrase that deals psychic damage to everyone within a 50-mile radius.
I can feel my brain melting just hearing that phrase
like what the fuck is going on? do they mean gangnam style?? is that where oopa comes from??? my head is hurting
I wasn't even aware of this till now and I'm cringing enough to cause physical damage
Ah, the new earworm that will stay with me for the next month
Let's dance into the night, everypony!
This video is the epitome of “you are not immune to propaganda”. Thank you for bringing attention to the issue with fake content.
you know this post was supposed to be funny? a joke? don't take everything at face value
@@akeman5235 World War political cartoons were also supposed to be funny but they were still inherently propaganda (even political cartoons today are technically propaganda) Jokes can have an agenda and all media has a bias as they have a perspective/viewpoint.
I think it's a very interesting psychological phenomenon that people, when presented with counter evidence to their example, are less likely to think "Yeah, you're right, I was believing in a fake boogeyman this whole time," and instead will think "Well, obviously that means that there are enough real boogeymen that I will believe that this fake boogeyman was a real boogeyman!"
The only real boogeyman is that homeless dude, that man knows how to boogey.
It gives me despair - in good part because I definitely fall for this shit.
This comment made me very sad and then the last sentence made me happy again, thank you
It really goes to show the mental gymnastics your brain can do to avoid feeling shame. It's cool that your brain has a built in function to protect itself like that but also sad that it makes things like this happen.
@@samtheflutegirl1373 AKA the Angry Jack effect! Actually, Innuendo Studios has great commentary on all of this stuff, would recommend to those as yet unfamiliar.
@@zk5228 Interesting....
wake up babe new repressed memory just dropped
BC (before con)
AD (after dash)
Woah
Or Anno Dashcon "Year of Dashcon"
@@merrittanimation7721 or, BCE (Before Con Era) and CE (Consequences Ensued)
I like this
OH MY GOD
i showed this to my five month old and he attacked my arm and covered me in wounds.
he is a cat.
"Okay, someone put their Rantsona pointing a gun at me and said: "Show us the SJW Wayne". You want the truth? You want the truth? YOU WANT THE FUCKING TRUTH!? THERE IS NO SJW, I LIED! It was never real."
I can imagine this so vividly, thank you
I showed this to my one-year-old and he bit my hand and demanded fruit.
He is a parrot.
The real question here: How cute is he?
If you'd claimed he was a human child I'd believe you for the simple reason that when I was very young I behaved in more or less that way.
Also, seconding RandomWizard's question.
Give him some fruit.
Also, thirding(?) RandomWizards question
Well??? Did you give him the fruit he deserves???
Also, fourthing RandomWizard‘s question.
please tell us you gave him the fruit
also, fifthing RandomWizard's question
I’m so excited to find out why this video essay on “Oppa Homeless Style” is twice as long as a wandavision episode
Because Disney+ is starved for content and so they stretched out a three hour story and then cut it up in tiny little parts so they could run it for 9 weeks?
@@4203105 do you know what a tv show is
@@zirrix4795 things that don't have 20 mins of credits
@@zirrix4795 Ususally a story of a given length that is not artificially drawn out and then split into ~45 minute chunks, not 30 minute ones?
Don't get me wrong, the story of Wandavision is great, but the late-game decisions of the executives at disney to stretch it out and air in so little chunks (and you can find reports about both online), really hurt the pacing.
@@4203105 i disagree but i respect your opinion. I like content that draws things out and i think that wandavision does it to a good degree, but i can understand that it could be grating for some people.
Tumblr actually does have a character limit. I figured this out when I was having a mental breakdown one day and had to unleash on my private blog. I was surprised to see my words suddenly not being typed 😂
sorry what 😭😭 can u tell us what the word limit is 😅
also i hope you recovered and your mental health is better now ❤️
@@_iyakin Omg you're so sweet, thank you so much! ❤️ Yes I am in a much better place now! (: If had to guess, I would say I had a little less than 1k words. Took me lots of scrolling to even get to the bottom! But apparently the word count limit is higher on a desktop (I was typing on my phone), so maybe 3k-4k on a computer. You also get more limited with each paragraph you type. But mine was all 1 paragraph so I could only imagine the true word count 😂
@@user-uv4rg2qp7c that's so nice to hear 😭😭 I'm guessing the weird word count limit difference is one of tumblr's faulty features 😅
lmfao what @ the word count limit part
@@crowdemon_archives I think it’s 13K words now
She's just so mild-mannered and reasonable that the few times when she isn't, _really_ catch me of guard. That bit about her onceler army self insert fanfic had me like: "SARAH! O.O" like I was her goddamn mom or something.
For real, that felt like a ContraPoints joke
My favorite moment when someone made up a story was when someone replied "that was me, you asshole", then the OP who replied "no it wasn't, because I made that up for notes."
Yes!!!! It was the one with the "girl in target with the tumblr post"
I immediately thought of that one.
You just dragged this out of the depths of my memory haha
the power of that statement.
IVE SEEN THE POST UR TALKING ABOUT OMG
“Unless it’s horribly egregiously against the terms of service or it’s a women’s body”
Ah yes. The two sins.
ah yes the two genders
I was gonna make a "the two genders" joke but i was beaten by 2 months
Eh I mean it isn't tumblr's fault, it's sesta-fosta
Important take aways: a lot of SJW cringe posts are not made by SJWs and mob mentality is a hell of a drug.
Very true, I grew out of my anti-SJW phase when I matured and realized that everything was just so people could feel better over others.
@@bitbit5598 I grew out of it when I realized that typical conservatives in meatspace were ten times more tender and delicate than even the worst 2014 SJW.
I wish I would have known back then, instead of having to be taught it years later. My real name is connected to a deleted anti-SJW blog 🤢
@@Solaceon That is a hell of a self-own to live with. I am ever & always grateful I managed to get most of my reactionary bandwagoning out of my system in face to face interactions with people that called me in/out real quick & well. AndButAlso: be proud you got there, even if later than you would let yourself now? We are all only ever rough drafts of who we will want to have been tomorrow.
This video has been in my recommended for weeks and I haven't clicked on it because I remember that post and I remember the life-threatening cringe levels I felt reading it. The reenactment in the beginning of this video is making me want to volunteer for medical experiments on invoking memory loss.
I had to skip it lol
“Dipshit, who turned bright purple”
Can’t believe we finally got Thanos’s origin story. Really gives some insight into his character!
The man behind the homeless
@@quantumblur_3145 TBH we could probably fit Oppa Homeless Style into the FNAF lore
@@doom_delrey9736 the books confirmed it
I’d pay $20 to see anyone turn bright purple
@@Bjorksbackyard lemme go buy a $5 can of spray paint real quick, I need that $20. Lol
babe wake up new Tumblr lore dropped
Very interesting video. The part about troll blogs on Tumblr made me think of the "ace discourse" too, where a lot of non-asexual people made troll blogs to pretend they're ace and a lot of blogs dedicated to screenshotting "cringy ace people" sprung and gained a lot of popularity. Many of these posts still circulate as "cringy" content nowadays even in leftist/LGBTQI+ blogs, and when you check the OP it's usually either a blog that ONLY has posts where they comment in reblogs of posts bringing up ace issues in a not honest way that have nothing to do with the post just to seem cringy, or they're empty blogs besides that post, or it's a person who made it openly as a joke and clearly state in their bio they aren't ace. (Sorry if I have mistakes, English is not my first language)
I'm glad you mentioned this. It reminds me of the "I got called an aceggot" meme. It started as a satire post that was obviously fake, but then people started using it as "proof that aces are just faking their oppression and we need to kick them out of the community!!"
This especially hurts as an ace dude and it just makes me want to drop the label and just call myself Bi instead so I can actually get treated normally by my own community again. (I'm bi-romantic)
@@Model_BT-7274 the one with "warm milk"?
Oh my gosh yes. I was thinking of crazy acey in spacey and similar blogs the whole time. It's freaky how quickly people fell for it, and to this day there are still proud ace exclusionists citing obviously fake posts to convince everyone that aces are these awful anti-sex puritans who fake their oppression and need to be denied access to the LGBTQ+ community at all costs. They're a big part of the reason I'm still closeted IRL.
Unfortunately, the attitude described of "the only good homeless person is one working themselves to exhaustion for your amusement, otherwise they deserve everything that's happened to them and more" is incredibly pervasive across America, and I have heard people say almost the exact same thing the fake fedora man said
Haven’t finished watching the video but...
In the fake “homeless style” story, the homeless man has no backing track or anything. He would be shuffling around doing the Gangnam style dance, and even if his singing and dancing were perfect, it would be extremely awkward to watch.
After watching the video. This detail was probably intentional.
It’s like those videos where they take the music out and just have the singing lol
I feel like it would be even more awkward when everyone else (besides dipshit) joined in. No way all of them would be in sync.
@@greenyawgmoth the post never existed in the first place. it was a fake screenshot made by a redditor for r/thathappened.
Heh! This joke is so meta.
The dance was pitch perfect. Since this makes no sense I take it to mean the dance actually generated the backing track
But also, now I’m thinking about how fake stories like this that created BS stereotypes and fueled cringe culture relate to marginalized people dunking on their own group for the respectability politics
That's just spicy 'I'm not like other girls'. Like, I'm gay but you know, not gay gay, I'm just like hetero daddy and not like those flamboyant queens having a good time and enjoying life. I'm normal and miserable like the rest. I'm just like you! I'm one of the good ones
The “I’m gay and homophobic” jokes always bugged me as a younger LGBT member who legitimately enjoyed the things people were getting blasted for but I always knew I would be sarcastically mocked if I tried making a post about it
This is basically how antisemitism works
Yeah, the stereotypes like the “Tumblr Ace” rose from fake accounts and stories, and it’s been a massive headache for asexuals ever since.
I'm one of those people. I'm Chinese and I would always make sure I was the first to make racist Asian jokes because I felt like it was better for me to do it than someone else. And it helped me "fit in" at school.
the trans name demand one is always so funny to me because between me and all the other trans people i know, meeting someone who has your deadname isnt an upsetting thing. the usual response is just "im glad someones making use out of it!", especially if the person is also trans. its just a fun moment.
My girlfriend used to do online teaching for kids 5-11, and one of the maths word problems had a character with my deadname. I only heard it in passing but it was a *jarring* moment for us both. We laughed about it afterwards. I can't imagine going sicko mode on someone because they Dare have a name I don't use anymore. Imagine getting mad at someone for having, like, your maiden name after getting married. Iconic main character syndrome.
Imagine two trans people meet, one trans man one trans woman, and when they introduce themselves they discover they both have eachothers' deadnames. That'd be one hell of a scene to behold.
@@GormathiusI’d watch that romcom
I think my "favorite" part of /r/tumblrinaction when I checked it out around 2014 or so was when I'd tried to find the posts actually on Tumblr. A good quarter or more were from explicit troll blogs. As in, you click on their "About" page and they would say -- in plain language -- that they were a troll and they're just roleplaying as an "evil SJW" or whatever.
This wasn't fake fake posts or misinterpreting or whatever. This was somebody saying "I'm going to lie to you", then they lied to you, and a bunch of people went "oh my god, that's so true!"
Holy shit, that's hilarious
I've heard that joke "maybe conservatives were the real snowflakes" so many times, but it's still a shock to realize that it's _literally true_ .
Is it a shock? Have you ever seen another group that genuinely offended by other people doing things or living life even the slightest bit different to them?
Both sides are snowflakes, simply because both sides are made up of humans and humans are very detailed and have many different traits they can have or not have. The idea of "my side is the correct/good side!" is already a way of being a snowflake in itself
@@TotinosOtherBoy sure, yes, whatever, but you gotta admit it's wild that a lot of these over the top ridiculous posts were invented by people who wanted to make fun of the subjects in those posts. You can both sides it however you'd like, but jfc the fact that these stories were not even invented by the ""sjws"" really says something.
Always have been 🌏🧑🚀🔫👨🚀
Haven't watched the video yet but the idea that this comment is relevant to the oppa homeless style video is enough to feel like a punch
no actually as a trans person i can confirm we steal money from people and call them transphobic for wanting it back. unrelated, anyone know where one can rent a bus on short notice?
I'll get the shirts
i can drive it
Save a seat in the back for me
I’ll get the baseball bats
As a genderfluid individual I can confirm that we all know the secret truth that we're water benders and that gender is a liquid that exists inside of your DNA
This has started to become a major issue in those reaction/social media commentary channels. Like the uploaders will have videos that are titled stuff like "Gen Z are so stupid lol" and they'll feature posts that are very obvious bait. Most of which, tend to paint minorities in a negative light. Or... Y'know, it's just the uploader making fun of literal 14 year olds for just... Existing.
whenever i see those tiktok slideshow-esque things? about comments theyre pretty much 80% trolls and 20% autistic people
I went in for giggles and I left questioning my my mindset, critical thinking, and the way I've judged things from my past until the present..
it's definitely a topic I rarely encounter and there's a lot that made me rethink a lot of things.
“Half the reposted tumblr content I read on Instagram and Pinterest in middle school was actually composed by trolls setting up straw men to take down that ended up cementing the entire internet’s perception of a website” was not the take that I was expecting but wow, between this and your research into my immortal it’s really interesting looking into the lives of niche groups of people online and trying to figure out their ideals and motives.
right?!!? like sarah being much older than i am acts as if this was all almost a decade ago but i remember seeing these posts on pinterest in middle school six years later and FULLY believing them
@@bridgetf88 that's just too relateable...
: )
sarah
It's a bit of a weird thing to think about for me because for one, fake posts are apparently much more widespread than I thought, but also because a lot of the more harmless ones (like the ones about fandom culture) I tend to take either as jokes or just accept at face value because they make me laugh and on the off chance it's a real thing it's a sort of feel good story. It doesn't cost me anything to believe that someone had a fun experience discovering other people who wear the same fandom hat as them and it makes me feel good.
This video is making me question that approach though because it is also true that when I have two closely related genres of fake story and am very willing to accept one at face value that can bleed over into the other. Routinely stretching my suspension of disbelief in a harmless manner makes it harder to identify fake stories when their validity matters. It makes it difficult to tell when someone is being ridiculous to be silly and when there is malicious intent behind the lie- particularly because I want to believe the best in people.
I don't consider myself to be naive but I did have a habit growing up of intentionally sheltering myself, and that's now coming back to bite me.
So... Wow... their thought process was: “These (insert target group) is so pathetic and lonely that they must be spending their time making up fake strawmen stories. I will now spend hours of my own definitely not lonely time to create a strawman narrative about that.”
As a wise Internet man Ian Danskin once said: "There is no line between a fascist and an opportunist"
"N-no, you see, when I do it is okay because is funny, right you guys? Is all ironic... I'm not like those other boys..."
"The fact I couldn't tell it was fake says a lot about our society" May be one of the few phrases that make me disregard someone's point.
it's always under some shit that is clearly bait like that one "Teacher gets fired for not meowing at student that identified as a cat" post. Like... the only reason you believed it is because you surrounded yourself with reactionary propaganda so much you forgot how the world actually works.
Wait... why did the internet get angry at a woman for saying that she was uncomfortable with being propositioned in an elevator? That seems like a perfectly normal emotional reaction. Sometimes guys get either verbally or physically abusive when turned down, and she would have no where to escape if that happened in an elevator.
(I'm legit not trolling here. I have stumbled into Sarah's channel via the whims of the algorithm, and honestly am not familiar with many of the topics/people she talks about before I watch her vids.)
It's stupid, but there are apparently a lot of un-empathetic people who fail to comprehend why cornering someone in an elevator at four in the morning might be perceived as creepy and think that because Rebecca Watson wasn't physically assaulted, she was wrong for speaking up about it.
@Forrest Taylor Plus, let's not forget the incredible disdain that crept up in the community for any argument or point that involved fEeLiNgS - "Oh, you FELT nervous and uncomfortable? FEELINGS AREN'T REAL! You want us to believe in this IMMAGINARY issue that you've created from your EMOTIONS? We are calculated, rational beings, not creatures of silly, hysterical FEELINGS! Which is why we're going to react to you with boiling rage and spin this whole thing into an ideology about combating the threat posed to us by the FemiNazis!"
@@rocketdave719Like, it’s pretty much that “Because of the implication” joke from It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia but done unironically.
@@DuelaDent52 I've never seen a full episode of Always Sunny, but I got that reference.
you really think someone would do that? just go on the internet and tell lies about people going on the internet and telling lies?
Maybe Sarah is lying about people lying about people lying!
@@brainard8211 maybe you're lying about julia lying about sarah lying about people lying about people lying.
@@VNCstudios maybe you're lying about Brainard lying about Júlia lying about Sarah lying about people lying about people lying
Stop
@@tisthecat maybe you're lying about telling us to stop talking about Zendaya lying about Brainard lying about Júlia lying about Sarah lying about people lying about people lying
I am now even more confident in my belief that no person in the history of humanity has ever unironically said "did you assume my gender"
Unfortunately, there are real recorded instances of it happening 😕
Remember the Gamestop "Ma'am" incident?
@@GeneralTaco155555a They were intentionally misgendering her. If everyone around you *insisted* on disrespecting your requests for basic respect on a day to day basis you'd snap too
Anyone who still makes that lame ass joke pees their pants for fun
@@GeneralTaco155555a Not at all, the gamestop woman was being misgendered and complained about it, at no time were the words "did you just assume my gender?" uttered.
@@jakitron890 people like this guy just kinda Mandela effected me I guess, my bad.
Wasn't my intention to bring up such a bad example, I was just trying to say that there are nutjobs in all walks of life, and even if it's rare, they do exist. These peoples' fake stories only got popular because viral clips of the insane rhetoric of real life "did you just assume my gender" type people that validate this hateful worldview.
I think more liberal people are starting to realize this and tone down, but pre-2020 there were so many examples of insane sjws in the spotlight and it really just fed the trolls and made everything worse for their own cause.
So here in the UK we have a TV show on weekday mornings called Good Morning Britain who do the EXACT same thing: they'll have some 20-something-year-old on with some crackpoint point of view that literally no-one agrees with like "clapping is triggering to autistic people, ban clapping!" or whatever so that the presenters can dunk on them and "prove" their point that millennials are all snowflakes that are unhinged from reality and want to ban everything and unite all the boomers against them (at least they sacked Piers Morgan, the frontman for this tactic). My dad falls for it every fucking time, too.
Omg I remember the episode where piers was ranting about the company that makes Mr & Mrs potato head changing their name to potato head & piers was ranting & screaming like it was the end of the world even though it was spelled out in crystal clear language that the company was changing its name but WASNT changing the names of its products & mr & mrs potato head were still available for purchase yet still piers ranted raved & screamed constantly shouting down his co host who was attempting to point out this fact until she finally snapped "oh shut up piers don't let your fragile masculinity get in the way" also I've seen video footage of a college student attending a meeting who demanded that people not cheer or clap as that triggered them & the more the other students cheered & clapped the more the student whined about how triggered they were
The most unrealistic thing was the $20 bill giving a paper cut, bills are cotton not real paper.
Damn, as a fat feminist social justice warrior, I almost wish my life was half as exciting as the posts that guy wrote to make me look bad.
There is no confidence boost quite like an old white man who thinks you can singlehandedly destroy America.
@@meadowb9124 or a young white dude. Or a far-right individual of any age really.
@@meadowb9124 right? It’s funny how threatened they feel by my mere existence
Oh damn, I laughed at your comment because I thought it was satire :/ good luck
@@zooted_420 Thanks! I'm pretty happy :)
was ready for a fever dream of a story about a weird tumblr post but instead you spent an hour putting into words the argument I've been trying to make for YEARS lmao
Me too ! Especially with the recent AITA trend. If you only read this sub you'll start to believe that everyone gets married all the time and that there's always a trans person to ruin it for everyone.
Sarah is so absurdly smart I can't believe it. I'm like 8 years older than her and I fell for that gay-ally-mom Reddit story until literally the second she pointed it out. I can't even spot the fakes, let alone notice a pattern, LET ALONE articulate it and what it says about larger internet culture. Sarah is a gift.
The worst part about this is all the people who left tumblr because they thought these fake posts were an accurate representation of the user base. And they'll never know that they are fake. Also, there is some genuinely intelligent and really interesting stuff on tumblr, but I know people who won't take anything on the site seriously.
Also, memory is hella weird. I really do remember seeing a lot of these fake posts on tumblr, especially oppa homeless style.
I’m not kidding, when I was a sophomore in high school I literally wrote whole-ass Dan and Phil fan fiction and turned it in for a grade. Nothing extraordinary happened, I got like a B.
I wrote fic for a school assignment. The teacher didn't recognise the fandom, so it got graded like any other story. I think I also got a B.
Not fanfics, but sometime in middle school I started writing increasingly absurd and stupid stories to see what I could get away with. Turns out, teachers have seen some shit, won't bat an eye and give you B's.
Something similar happened to me in HS except we were basically encouraged to write essentially fan fiction. You see on of the options to prove that we actually read the books we claimed we did for Summer reading (at this stage we were no longer assigned a book we got to choose whatever book we wanted) we were asked to essentially rewrite the book (or at least major scenes) from another characters perspective. I wrote Catching Fire (or at least parts of it) from Gale’s POV. I believe I got an A-.
I went into this thinking it would be a compilation of Tumblr’s greatest hits, and left with a better understanding of the Straw Manning of minorities and the danger of insular communities. Thanks Sarah.
Same same
I've sent this video to so many friends
Hearing people say 'female-presenting nipple' will never not be funny
i always hear it in that prozd voice
@@miya1285 same
@@miya1285 same
We should censor female nipples with male nipples. What can they do about it?
@@garbageboy9164 hHDHFH YOU GENIUS
The pigs in a blanket joke was so gold. Honestly hearing these, some of them aren't that unbelievable, I've actually had one of those moments where it sounds like a fake tumblr post. My friends in college convinced me to go to the midnight release for Skyrim. This was a pretty small college town in Arizona, and it didn't have a gamestop yet, so the only place we had to buy it was at a Walmart. When we got there, we circled up and started talking among ourselves, and noticed a surprisingly huge line of people for the little town. We were all talking about the game, and then, suddenly, my brain remembered, "the game," which isn't much of a stretch, but it gave me the idea to say really loudly to the line of people, "I just lost the game." I didn't even know if it was a thing there, since I'd moved from NY to go to school out west, but to my surprise, a whole line of nerds all started groaning. I don't think I'll ever get a reaction like that again.
Oh my gosh, I called myself Egalitarian when I was 12-15. Holy crap, I'm glad I wasn't the only one that had that phase 😭
Same 😅
tumblr staff are an urban legend. I’m not sure they even exist.
There is 7 of them left, they are the only ones that survived the Great Nipple Purge
They're cryptids that no one have ever seen
i actually saw one she seemed pretty normal
I saw one in the woods in my backyard many years ago
this is gonna be the subject of next Sarah Z video. she'll uncover that they were all toby all along.
minorities r like: bro i am literally just s
i am just standing here
tumblr is a hellsite (affectionate) but twitter is a hellsite (derogatory)
"anthropomorphic rant-sonas" is such an excellent phrase
I find a lot of the "real" fake stories quite sad tbh, you can tell that these kids made them up because they want adults to validate and be excited about their interests, to have a disney character tell them to stop self harming, etc. A lot of it reads like just...unrealistic wishful thinking.
Oof ive never thought about it like that but youre so right ;(
"disney character tell them to stop self harming" is a big oof for 13 year old me haha
I’m just now realising that Dan and Phil probably didn’t actually kiss the scarred wrists of fans who approached them and told them about their self-harm. I always thought that was an odd way to react to (mostly child) strangers telling you they’d self-harmed.. But this was a thing fans used to say about them. I remember thinking it weird nobody has it on film since they supposedly used to do this at meet and greets, but I’m pretty glad honestly that it doesn’t seemed to have actually happened because that is a bit strange, to say the least.
I think it was just young people in pain wanting the support of their community, which in this case was the phandom, and they used a story that would interest the community to attract that support. That’s my guess. It did lead to people replying saying how wonderful DnP were, sharing their own experiences with self-harm, offering support to people who’d self-harmed, reassuring each other someone cares, etc. If it was a way to receive support from a community and feel less alone, I think it was a good strategy for attracting that support. Kinda glad to realise DnP probably didn’t actually kiss strangers like that though. I understand the appeal in a fantasy, but irl that’d be pretty wrong..
@@genericname8727 It really would be totally weird in real life, way too intimate for a fan meeting. I hope no one went to them and expected them to do this and was then disappointed. But I'm sure if any fan went to them and told them about self-harm they would react very kindly, so I hope if anyone went to a fan-meet and told them about self-harm they would still feel good with their reaction. (I don't know if anyone ever told them sth like this, but it wouldn't really surprise me.
@@genericname8727 when I was younger I thought it was romantic if someone would kiss you on your self-inflicted scars. I did that with a boyfriend.
Now I’m 30 and I see that it’s wrong, because it romanticizes self-harm. There’s nothing beautiful about it and well I cringe when i think about it.
Disclaimer, I did harm myself also so I think I did it because I wanted him to do it too. But now I’m older I see why it’s wrong, although I don’t have the right words for it
"you get duped by troll blogs into hating other people so you make troll blogs about those people and you all dupe yourselves into believing these troll blogs until you're getting high off of outrage that you yourself have created like delicate yet self sustaining ecosystem"
BARS
she truly found an elegant way to say that they're merely sniffing their own farts to get mad at
biggie told 'em "don't get high on your own supply" and they still don't listen
The "Gen Z Critizism" Community is so similar to the "Skeptic" community
Probably a significant portion of the "genZ criticism" upholders came from the "Skeptics" community after it's major split, subsequent collapse and rebrand to "anti-SJW". There's a huge time overlap between the events described and the rise on popularity of it, + they're target audience are the same, people that want to mildly hate for they're own amusment.
Edit: spelling
@@martinasfr9871 Basically
yes
(talks about that fake story about the traumatised policemen)
Sarah: *Pigs in blankets are delicious*
It's the little things that tickle me lol x
My favorite trend on breadtube lately is “video starts as a simple story but then becomes emblematic of a larger issue as the people involved with the original topic move into the larger more serious topic”
“In search of a flat earth” is the best example, but this is up there as the best of that video format.
In search of a flat earth really swept my legs out from under me
@@zacharyheine4177 I agree, it was really well done.
What’s breadtube???
@@kumatorahaltmanndreemurr Left-wing/Progressive UA-cam.
In Search of a Flat Earth fucked me up man
I think what these people can do is to actually meet minorities and just people in general
The "go outside and touch some grass" is so cliche, but it really is true. Like just go TALK to people. I'm always begging my homophobic parents to talk to like, one gay person. It's so easy to hate people when all you know about them is some convoluted strawman perception.
@@iwantcandy2 right?! It's so simple, but as we know, they enjoy being in this fantasy. They just beat around it to avoid true exsposure. Once a guy was losing his marbles because I was a dedicated satanist and nice to him, all at the same time, a big no no to him. It was a "No, wait you can't do that, that's illegal, you can't be a complex, multidimensional human being!" He was just so shocked that I wasn't what he thought I'd be. But he made the choice to approach me and question me, that's all it took. He exposed himself to something that was unknown to him and now he knows satanist aren't in this box that he thinks they are like.
Seeking out different perspectives and beliefs has really shaped me in ways that I am so grateful for. And so much so that it has become a special interest of mine, I like exploring and challenging myself. And I genuinely hope these people decide to leave their bubble and do it for themselves, because they may be shocked and even relieved, coming to find that the unknown doesn't always have to be an enemy. But just something new to explore
@@justsayalhamdulillaah9720 in my experience with people of different faiths Satanists are most consistently polite across the board. Nobody's ever tried to convert me to Satanism, either.
@@dadbodenvy4247 Same, some are really chill
51:01 "A horse walked into a bar and someone tried to fact check it" quote of the year
now i feel kinda stupid falling for the whole anti-sjw thing lmao
At least you learned and changed. Millions of people are still duping themselves.
Don't worry, most of us were impressionable teens or tweens :'((
Same. Although in hindsight, while I overall wish it never happened, I do think that having that experience has given me a better eye for modern things in the same vein; I'm better at spotting secret entrances to the alt right pipeline, if you will
I did not expect this video to turn from "these stories are fake lol" to "these stories aren't even fake stories found on the internet, THEY'RE ALL MADE BY THE SAME PERSON!" double fake. Damn.
Tobies all the way down.
I am BEGGING you for a "my 3 weed smoking girlfriends" Video Essay.
When I first read this I thought the weed was smoking the girlfriends
PLEASE I WOULD LOVE THIS
Petition to make "MechaMew2" into a verb to describe people who make fakeposts with this MO.
I regularly invoke MechaMew2 when I'm on the NotAlwaysRight spectrum of websites and I run into something that strains even my incredibly generous benefit of the doubt, so you're definitely onto something here.
That list of early tumblr fake stories sounded like that evolved into Dhar Mann 😅
Ikr
i think when the zombie apocalypse starts and all of the major cities are overrun i will run into sarah killing her way through a horde of zombies, and when i get a chance the only thing i will ask her is "how did this happen?" and she will look me in the eyes (or as best she can with her eyepatch) and answer, "i think we can trace this back to 2014's dashcon."
the ball pit was actually a perfect analogue for the early Earth's primordial soup, creating an entirely new strain of life
I should write a fanfic about this
@@jasonports8517 you have my approval
@@sverenagain i second this
Bold of you to think nobody else would be parasocially obligated to save Sarah in a zombie apocalypse.
R/entitledparents is also filled with these. The amount of “I was out with my pet and a random person demanded my pet for their kid” posts I see is hilarious. Neckbeard stories are also almost always fake but those bother me a bit more because nine times out of ten the fake neck beard is described as fat and then the story is filled with mean stereotypes about fat people ie “they smelled so bad, they were always sweaty and nasty etc. etc.”
Why cant more fake posts be like that beans post, where GF buried the beans, or the soup tube, where BF proposes his soup tube business idea
Pretty much every "[x] person/people are crazy/jerks" subreddit has the same problem to more or lesser degrees, they've all reached the point of saturation that the actually believable content for those forums is mundane and the only content left that those communities engage with are absurd parodies of actual people. Choosing beggars, insane parents, "I don't work here"-s, fat people stories, etc. they're all filled to the brim with people either stretching the truth or making stuff up out of whole cloth.
Basically the only stuff that you can trust is if it's, like, a screenshot of a publicly available post by an account that is obviously not a sockpuppet (which is near-impossible since you never know how dedicated someone with plenty of time and an unhealthy obsession can be).
To me it always sounds like self flagellating projection and they wanting others to validate their own feeling of overblown judgement and self hate without explicitly putting themselves on the spot as the fat bastards in their stories.
Also the whole "I already know I'm disgusting but at least I'm not deluded like THOSE right? lmao"
All the story reddit and other story places are full of fake stories. Always assume that 95%+ of all telling a stories you read on the internet are fake.
not to mention classist and elitist as well tbh
For Troper Tales, the main thing for me wasn't just "lol this is so fake", it was being "oh god, what if it's real"
Oh god. I'm 22 and I still believed the "weed in vents in high school so everybody is getting high" Story 😭
Isnt that a plot point in Cheech and Chong 😂
Maybe it’s cringe by now but I still think the “it’s true, I was the ____” comments on fake stories are the funniest thing ever.
it's true, I was the chair
@@gundenordstrom8123 it's true, I was the agony
agreed
It's true, I was the cringe
It's true, I was Obama
Sarah: I’m not a tumblr history channel
Also Sarah:
i really never believed oppa homeless style was meant to be taken seriously. i always thought it was a parody of the clearly fake internet stories this video talks about
That plant-kin post seeded so much transphobia throughout my extended social circles when it went viral. Mostly people making fun of preferred pronouns and comparing them to people identifying as plants and eating dirt and stuff. I checked out the Tumblr blog and it was obvious right away that it was a troll. I was about fifteen or so at the time and not as "high-functioning" (not a fan of that term and its implications, but it's the only one I know that others are familiar with) in my autism as I've come to be, so I often had a hard time telling satire or sarcasm from sincerity, but it was so blatantly fake that I was surprised my allistic acquaintances fell for it.
I think what mostly stuck out to me was how inherently mean-spirited the troll and the fuss it stirred up seemed to be. I wasn't as knowledgeable on trans identities or the whole kin thing at the time, but all the transphobic memes and jokes about people on Tumblr playing make-believe just rubbed me the wrong way.
A few years later, I was arguing with my dad and aunt about the Canadian government seemingly officially recognizing "they/them" pronouns or whatever and while my dad disagreed with it because he thought it was grammatically incorrect (not true, since 'they' has been singular since before 'you' was, but even then, it's such a shallow argument; language itself is an evolving social construct, just like gender), my aunt's issue with it was that it would apparently open the door to people identifying as animals and inanimate objects. So basically the same argument as homophobes who thought gay marriage would lead to marrying animals or whatever.
I guess reactionaries and queerphobes will just about fall for anything and trolls who get off on causing queerphobic controversy recognize this and will invent these ridiculous scenarios for those people to validate their irrational fears with.
Lol I've lost count of the number of people I've seen in the comments section on UA-cam alone who make that same tired argument "omg they/them is plural not singular" also it was super obvious that they're a troll as they make numerous contradictory claims in their about me page it's honestly scary how many people will grab their torches & pitchforks over a single claim w/o even applying a single ounce of critical thinking
The worst part about the down with cis story is I feel like the British media these days would publish it as a true story without doing any research
this fucking hurt because you're right
I feel like the uk media is only just warming up to the internet now that there’s a plague
The Sun would be on that shit
@LUC HARTWELL Eh half the Republican party believe the election was stolen. I don't think we're too much better.
@LUC HARTWELL Oh there are plenty of terfs over here. They just don't have a platform like in some other countries.
the "white people should not speak spanish" post was everywhere. Ive seen youtubers, even big ones like pewdiepie laugh about this. And of course, like most people, thought it was from a LibeRal TriggEreD sJw. damn now im thinking about how many posts that youtubers used to dunk of sjw's are fake
I wonder how many people believe what they believe about feminist, anti-racist, anti-fascist and LBGT movements because of these fake-post-backlashes... These goofy posts have amounted to real harm.
@@hindigente ppp
I showed this video to the local Starbucks and everyone inside cheered and clapped
It’s true, I was the espresso machine
i’m very late to the party but i would like to add (as many others have before) that tik tok is essentially tumblr 2.0 because i have seen an influx of troll accounts created to provoke hate against minorities on the app.
for example: i’m often on the lgbtq+ side of tik tok and thus many of my recommended videos are queer related. so majority of the troll accounts are made to mock trans and gay people.
one of the common formats i’ve seen is where they use other people’s videos (bonus point if the person in the video is wearing a bunny hat), include a bunch of disrespectful neopronouns that no real neopronoun user would use (such as god/godself, *slur*/*slur*self, fae/faeself etc) and write outrageous takes such as “i don’t believe that racism is real.”
and, sure enough, the comments are full of people dunking on them. this quickly leads to transphobia and homophobia and body shaming (which is especially awful because most of the videos that these accounts use are stolen and are of minors. so the original poster is getting flamed for something they didn’t say.)
essentially, time is a flat circle.
its insane that i literally saw a tiktok video of someone screen recording another tiktok video about the person's neopronouns not being used and then they go to the linked bio and its an entire page of a shit ton of "pronouns" and their bio literally says "do not idolize me" and the comments are full of ppl dunking on them and others using it as an opportunity to be bigots and then there are ppl like me who are guillible who legit wanted to just be respectful and assume anything can be a neopronoun (since im not neurodivergent i wouldnt know better obvi so i would accept others claiming to be neurodivergent and spread both info and misinfo) and being nice doesnt cost me anything. those guilible ppl then try to stop ppl from attacking the person. and then there are ppl who understand whats happening and try to call it out by saying fake shit like that hurts the community and makes them look like a joke. and then the guilible ppl respond by telling them to not be bigots and understand ppl. its an entire mess
i have some fellow queer friends who use neopronouns, especially fae that's popular. but its strictly within the usage of a blog or on discord. especially not a public facing post like on tiktok.
i remember this one really fake post about a guy being homophobic and the girl like... hugs him and tells him it's okay to be gay and he cries because he's actually closeted and I will never forget that as long as i live and breathe
EDIT:
jshdfgjdsg she literally mentioned the post right after i typed this out lmao
I kind of want to write a fake post where that happens, and the homophobe turns out to actually just be a homophobe. Turns out, homosexuality doesn't inspire a significant proportion of homophobia.
One of my favorites is the one where the mugger is like "stick 'em up" and then he sees her wrist scars and is like "oh no, poor baby, don't do that, you are loved" and lets her go. Doesn't even make sense internally. If all these stories are just strawmen arguments made by trolls to get people to hate random other groups of people, what the fuck group of people is THAT trying to get people to hate? Tumblr users?
@@FrenkTheJoy Probably. A lot of people see Tumblr as synonymous with SJWry.
i will never forgive the person who came up with the Alexandria disorder; the one with people having purple eyes and women not having periods but still can pop kids out. spent 5 fvking years thinking it was real and in my genetics lectures I still think about it and get egregiously mad for the rest of the day. it wasn't even that deep.
You just unlocked a memory
@@cookieaddictions Alexandria Disorder was made up for a Darla fanfiction and was taken as fact by someone else so I think we can forgive them
Didn’t it also involve not having any body hair outside of the hair on your head? I mostly saw girls my age wanting it so badly on Facebook back in the day and I don’t blame them because no period and no shaving sounds too good to be true(as it obviously was), but the „hair on the head, but not the body“ part made me suspicious(since with a supposed disorder, I’d have assumed that all hair follicles would be dysfunctional and not all but the ones required to meet beauty standards) so I looked it up and immediately found that it was fake.
Ngl I still wish I had Alessia Genesis it's just perfect
I remember stumbling upon Alexandria’s genome when doing the Mary Sue litmus test, and found the original person wrote an entire fking essay pleading with people and opening herself up to probably a lot of fking hate by being so vulnerable. I had no idea she or her random fake medical condition in a fanfic existed, but apparently so many people wanted it to be real that they “diagnosed” themselves with it and she had to shout at them that no, it’s fake.
It was an interesting experience.
Anita Sarkeesian: Overwatch is great and has a lot of women, diversity in skin, and diverse body types, like Mei and Zarya. However most of these girls seem to follow the same skinny girl type as League Of Legends.
Anti-SJWs: SHE HATES OVERWATCH! SHE SAID "these girls follow the same skinny girl type as League Of Legends" SHE IGNORES MEI!
@Some Weeb I mean her show is about representation in gaming. You complaining about her only talking about that is like complaining that Minecraft is just a survival sandbox and doesn't care about story or characters.
@Some Weeb Untrue. Most games, shows, and films will feature a wide array of shapes and sizes for males. But women usually only are a sexy skinny girl, especially in gaming. In most Final Fantasy games only the male party characters are portrayed as bigger set, while the women are almost always thin and large breasted.
@Some Weeb Also that statement about feminists hating unattractive men is such a massive lie, especially since gaming feminists have been openly complaining about the generic make archetype of the hot buff white guy with stubble. As a matter of fact Anita even made a jab at the Nathan Drakes of gaming in her video about female body types in gaming.
@Some Weeb Oh idk maybe (Including side characters who are in the whole game) Heavy TF2, Torbjorn, Barret, The Duke, Barry Burton, Mario, Doctor Clash, Zeke, Barry Wheeler, Bob, Big Daddy from Bioshock 2, Rufus, Amingo, Luigi, Warrio, Birdie, Eggman, Gragas, Roadhog, Blitzcrank, Kog'Maw, Pyro, Demoman, Winston, Bastion. And those are just off the top of my head without google, there's a lot I'm simply forgetting the names of.
@Some Weeb Also I never said there are no female characters who don't fit the classic mold, just that there is a staggering amount of them. Most of our female characters are thin and large breasted, its just a fact. I like them, I can connect with them better but I'm not gonna act like there isn't I bias towards conventionally attractive characters in gaming because there obviously is. Even the men I listed, despite there being a better diversity in men most make leads are the same 30 year old hot white dude, and for women most overall female characters are thin sext white or asian girls. Saying that there isn't I bias especially for women characters is just you lying to yourself.
Woah... Use to be a lot into "skeptic" content too back in the day, and up until now I just assumed that the people shown in these videos were just dumb outliers, but a lot of them were actually made up?
"You dont think a conservative would do that, would you? Waste an unbelievable amount of time to hurt and lie about vulnerable minorities, do you?"
Which is kinda funny considering Anti-SJWs always says that the "left" is in these echo chambers and they're the "free thinkers" but they never seem to address these sort of fake stories and always assume they're real
conservatism
conservatism never changes
“You really think a conservative would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?”
@@sholem_bond That’s sort of the point, right?
@@declanedmison5442 you've got him there, that's kind of in the name..
The autism ones are so laughable. Like I've EVER felt comfortable even going to an HR department to even ask for accommodations, much less threatened someone over it. Like I've ever been in a bullying situation where the administration sided with me. Actually, I was suspended far more often than other students for minor issues. I accidentally kicked a boy (I was on the swing, he got in front of me, physics occurred), and he pinned me to the ground and tried to claw my face off with his fingernails, but I was the one who had to write an apology letter. I got no such apologies. This same boy also repeatedly smacked me on the ass and no matter how much I complained to teachers and lunch staff I was told "we'll talk to him" and it didn't seem like anything ever happened. However, I DID get sent to social skills class where I was told to 'accept compliments graciously.'
These people suck, and I hope their coffee cup lids leak.
I hope they step in a puddle while wearing socks, but only one sock gets wet.
honestly from what ive seen the majority of autistics are more conflict averse than the average. ive seen a lot of other people complain in posts online about stuff like their iep being ignored but expressed reluctance to talk to anyone about it. honestly my highschool dropped the ball hard on mine (so i dropped my grades in senior year and still graduated) and i didnt ever complain to higher ups. even when one of the counselors told me with other people in the room that i wouldnt graduate. because i was having a bad day and decided to draw in my free period (FREE. period. its free. for me to do things.) instead of doing homework. and i didnt go after the other stuff they just decided not to do. it was my mom who insisted that if they didnt graduate me she was going to complain to the school board and make it a bigger issue than the school would have wanted it to be. i was fine just being passive aggressive and fucking around in my free periods since that point and just not actually confronting it.
Many if not most allistic/neurotypical people have biases against autistic people as antisocial, lacking empathy, unable to communicate, etc.
So they judge autistic people's behavior way more harshly than allistics'. And if it's a "he said, she said," the autistic person is always wrong.
@@the_homun_system You would be correct. The idea of seeking out conflict is almost physically painful to me, like I think it activates the pain response.
I did briefly filter some AITA posts to see the ones whose titles contained the word "autistic" out of curiosity after this video, and they are almost all completely insane. I think the maddest one I saw was one where this "16 year old girl" who definitely exists claimed that (TW: child abuse, ableist stereotypes) her 100% real autistic mother was abusing her and beating her because she ... refused to colour coordinate the books on her shelves. And that no one was believing that the scary autistic person was hurting her and won't someone think of the NT children?
I mean outside of the rain man level stereotyping going on in that post (colour coordinated bookshelves? That's all you could think of?), and how this person had obviously never met an actual autistic person, the most disturbing thing about that post was that it had 1400 upvotes. 1400 people genuinely believed that it was completely true and that autistic people commonly behave that way. It also made me relate to the comment that Sarah Z briefly made about wanting to write her thesis on one of the fake SJW posts because there were just so many LAYERS of problematic ableist attitudes in that post. None of you asked for this but I am just going to list the ones I found because this fucking post has been haunting me all week and I just have to tell someone before I explode:
1) The idea that autistic people are more likely than the general population to perpetuate child abuse. Now I am not a parent myself, but I am involved in a few autism support subreddits, and it is disturbing how I have seen multiple autistic parents posting in a panic saying that they are being accused of being a bad parent/child abuse simply on the grounds that they are autistic. Two that stick out in my mind are a father who was involved in a very messy divorce, and had to deal with his wife's legal team arguing that he should not receive custody of his children because his autism would mean he would not take care of them, and a woman who was accused of neglecting her children for seemingly no reason by a scout leader, which eventually turned out to essentially be because she was giving "weird vibes" (read - was not emoting with her face/was obviously not NT). Now obviously I am not saying that it is impossible for a minority to perpetuate child abuse. What I am saying is that it is wrong to state that autistic people are more likely to abuse their kids specifically because of their autism. In fact the opposite is true, the only correlation studies have found between childhood abuse and autism is that autistic kids themselves are significantly more likely to be abused than their NT peers.
2) The idea that autistic people are somehow inherently violent. I always get a bit mad when the "1/3 autistic children are violent" statistic is floated around because it never specifies whether it is referring to violence during meltdowns or not. I know a guy who has pretty violent meltdowns, but would never describe him as an inherently violent person because you shouldn't judge a person's character with a snapshot of when they are in the worst place possible and in deep distress. He's usually the chillest guy ever, and would not act that way when he was not having a massive meltdown. And there is also the issue that plenty of children will deliberately provoke and bully the child they know has anger issues because they like getting a reaction. I know he almost got expelled for attacking a child when he was in primary school, because the child and their friends thought it would be a super funny idea to trap the autistic kid in a confined space to see how he would react, and were then surprised when he reacted with complete panic and decided to leave the confined space any way he could no matter who was in the way. The kids who put him in a situation where they knew he would have some sort of meltdown got off punishment free. Now obviously you should try and work on your anger issues if you have them to avoid having as violent meltdowns, that was something I had to learn when I was younger, but there is a huge difference imo between violent outburst that takes place when you are having what is essentially a complete mental breakdown in the space of less than an hour, and the idea that all autistic people are calculating sadists who love causing pain in their free time.
3) This is more dramatic than the other autism AITA posts considering that this one involves child beatings over bookshelf organisation, but a general theme that is seen in this fake post and others is that autistic people asking for any form of accommodation are making a big deal out of nothing and are just looking for a way to be a little tyrant over other people. This is usually demonstrated by the autistic person in these fake posts making an obviously irrational and overly controlling demand on the NT protagonist. Outside of the fact that no autistic person would have either the inclination or the gall to ask a NT to organise their own personal belongings the way we do, that is not something that we are bothered about, in general it annoys me when abled people respond with "just get over it" to genuine accomodation problems autistic people are having just because they don't have the same sensory issues. I'm not trying to be a tyrant when I ask my Mum to shut the door when she watches television, if she leaves it open I can usually hear whatever show she is watching way too loud for me to concentrate on my homework. I do not think my request is that unreasonable. In the same way when I ask for extra time for my exams I am not looking for special treatment I am genuinely unable to finish my exams otherwise due to both my autism and a physical disability. Outside of that, "you are making a big deal out of nothing and need to learn to toughen up" was the rationale of those in my class who would repeatedly bully another autistic girl in my year by showing her pictures and videos of dead and dying animals (she was very into animal rights, had a special interest in farm maintenance, and was a vegetarian), and the response of the teachers when this issue was brought up. She was basically considered too much of a weirdo to be a victim of bullying (she was extroverted and very obviously "odd"), and the fact her response was to shout and fight those winding her up was also used as proof she was the original aggressor in those situations. Heck even one of our teachers got involved by showing that video of the dead sperm whale that blew up due to a gas build up in one of our physics lessons when he knew that she was in the class and would be distressed by it.
I realise now how long this youtube comment is lol. Sorry about that just really wanted to rant about that deeply cursed fake post. Now I need to write the actual essay I am supposed to be doing.
It's ridiculous. r/fatlogic is still absolutely full of these kinds of posts dunking on fake fat people.
Internet culture must’ve been so different seven years ago, because there’s no way anyone thought that someone was trying to pass off “oppa homeless style” as a *real* story and NOT satire... right?!
I wasn't expecting a content warning for transphobia on a video about the oppa homeless style post but here we are I guess
how dare you remind me that repzion exists
oppa homeless style!
I thought I was above falling for fake internet stories, but I also go to the relationships subreddit a lot and read it for laughs. I can call out bullshit posts 9or at least I thought), but this is making me realize how many of those "funny" posts were about minorities or discriminated-against groups acting in unreasonable ways. I think I'll stop going to that subreddit. Thanks for giving me a reality check on that.
I'm thinking the same about AITA, like, I thought that I could recognize the fake stuff, and that it was ok to give the benefit of the doubt, but this video made me realize how many of those posts were anti-trans/gay/autistic/poor, and how it's really not a good place to get entertainment from.
Ragebait gets seriously addicting after a while. I realised that every morning, the first thing I would do when going on my phone would be to go on /r/AITA for that sweet sweet fake story combo. Had to delete the app
Check out r/amItheAngel, they call out those stereotypes like „Trans/Gay/Fat/Autistic = bad“
Lmao I just remembered that fake story from the start of the pandemic where this guy came home to find all their food gone, and his girlfriend told him she had bagged it up and buried it in the woods in case looters wanted to raid their apartment for food. He broke up with her and apparently still has no idea where that bag of food is buried 🥴
I remember quickly coming to the conclusion that I hated anti sjw rhetoric. I grew up around a lot of dirty hippie anarchists and they were always quiet reserved people who lived their lives prioritizing ideologies of inclusiveness backed up by well reasoned arguments. The anti sjw attitudes I came across always took the most absurd extreme examples of this population and took them as the norm in a bid to excuse themselves from doing any self-critique. This is made much more obvious when you look at who is doing this complaining.
your narration of strange internet controversies is like an anti anxiety pill I appreciate it
Sarah Z uploads a new video.
Me: Another hour long video explaining years of internet drama that I will get sucked into.
Sarah Z: What seemed to be a story about Korean music and homelessness turned out to connect to a Web of Lies involving reddit clout, years of deception, and very strong opinions on dog breeds.
Me: Ah, of course. Here we go again.
She didnt even mention the role this stuff plays in turning people into fascists and nazis
@@3asianassassin she did though. maybe not word for word but she says it sucks people into insular communities that hate or mistrust marginalized people. can you guess what we call people like that?
@@mayayamato7351 i meant specifically in that early line, but yeah
Ah, shit. Were my friends involved in said strong opinions on dog breeds again?
@@3asianassassin That's because she wants to avoid tipping her hand here so that actual people involved in these communities who randomly come across this video will stay to watch to the end where she calls them out. If she mentioned at the beginning that it was about fascists and nazis, the "anti-SJWs" involved in these communities will click off the video.
[Youth Pastor voice]: Do you know who ALSO made up fake conversations to prove a point?
Plato.
Pastor Alex, Plato wasn’t Christian
Plato: “All in all, I responded, those who were chained would consider nothing besides the shadows of the artifacts as the unhidden.
“… and then everyone clapped.”
@@jeniferjoseph9200 Exactly. Look what you can become if you stray too far from The Religion.
also... jesus
i read that in the fuckin regular show muscle man voice and fully expected the punchline to be "my mom"
Just looking at the Armored Skeptic avatar makes me want to dig hole all the way to the earth's core, crawl inside, collapse the hole and scream till I die.