You just know that if moamt actually became a series, the irl officer would be referred to with basic one dimensional personality traits. Like the cartoon has her mention potato chips as her favorites snack once and everyone makes potato chips jokes to her
@@penpeen2185 Oh. Imagine in some show where the casts is being introduced and then the cast is only missing one person because that one person was so lazy he didn't even show up to the show. Sounds neat.
yeah, everyone calling it a "scam" confuses me, it's not like the person was planning on pocketing all the money, i think they genuinely wanted to make something and just had no clue how much time and money went into making a show. everyone acting like lemonteaflower was some malicious scammer trying to get money from people feels off to me, i don't think they deserve the levels of hate they got.
Heya Izzzyzzz, I just wanna say that I was the one who made the short 11 seconds fan animation and that this video got people to come by the old video and comment on it (no harrassment though, just comments) but I also wanna thank you for mentioning that the animation was just a fan animation and not made for the Kickstarter project itself. I made that short animation for fun and didn't even know it was used for the Kickstarter until someone mentioned it in a comment 4 years ago, which I was not privy to and very much do not appreciate that they did that. I just want everyone who's watching Izzzyzzz video here to know that I have no connection to that failed Kickstarter (again, I never even knew they did a Kickstarter for it) and my animation was NOT made for that.
Hey, just wanted to tell you I was a big fan of the comics you did for Pixie Trix Comix, when you did that animation it was like a huge crossover event for 16 year old me
@@delleugenio Thank you, but I decided to delete it just recently cos I've been rebranding my channel anyway, so that old thing is just not something I feel like fits my channel anymore. Thank you for the kind words though, I really appreciate it ^^
@@Limacinablues They said it was reminiscent of a style common on a certain era of tumblr. Never did they give an opinion on quality on a scale of good to bad.
@@Limacinablues While people had/have different artstyles (across ALL eras), there are definitely traits of artstyles that tend to get like REALLY associated with a fandom/site. (For example, with the FNAF fandom it's that style used for the Purple Guy thing) Big eyes, a general more roundness to features. Although admittedly I agree with you that the comment OP made kinda comes across like insulting the '2014 Tumblr Style'
That was a current comment reflecting on how badly the situation went. He didn’t predict the future. It was a comment left AFTER all this went down. That’s why he included the word NOW in his comment. Eg ‘this radiates a dark energy now that it’s been used to scam people out of thousands of dollars’
If you're talking about the 11 seconds animation that was shown in the video over and over, I am said animator and I do not trace artworks or do scams. If you're talking about lemonteaflower however, I have no idea. I was not involved in the Kickstarter and my animation was not made for that project, it was just a fan animation made for fun.
Mismanagement and biting off more than you can chew is not the same as trying to use your fanbase to fund a Christian propaganda network and going on to push "pray the autism away" quackery.
@@yannickgrignon2473 I wouldn't say they put out a wholesome image, most people on the site are self aware of the fact that every company who's baught the site has lost money selling it and that people in general there can be toxic. Maybe pre-2015 tumblr had an idea of being ~the coolest place on the internet~ but it's just not the case anymore Theres just something about tumblr that's slightly off kilter with the rest of reality so we end up with this animation scam or the race-faking aids scam or the grave robbing bone thief
@@jojoslameerrand9305 Literally on no other site could I meet a grave robber or a soon-to-be-arrested murderer, or idk someone posing as a 13 years old disabled minority purely for clout. And that's worth it
@@smpmuzpid Perhaps but you see, on 4chan you can't follow someone and talk with them via DMs only to find out three months later that they were arrested for something absolutely wild. It's just not the same vibe. 4chan is like an anonymous alcoholics meeting where everyone has a sack on their head. Tumblr is a psych ward, but online.
You know of all the Tumblr scams, this one is the least egregious? More a young person getting too much ambition and caught up in the height than anything else. It's unfortunate, but especially since it didn't reach its goal, it feels weird to have this much infamy especially compared to something like all or nothing or hell dashcon.
I agree with this. What they did was wrong, but people are really quick to demonize others. Its really easy to get in over your head as a young artist. And people falling back on the things they used to draw just rubs me wrong. Thought crime vibes, do they want making certain pencil markings to be illegal? Art is expression, of even the twisted things inside us. Its art. Its not real. Blame reality for reality, art is just a reflection of what already exists, interpreted by the individual. Something can be disgusting and despicable to me - but people still have the right to draw said thing. I firmly believe that. Like I said, they were in the wrong for this whole scandal, but the way people are so quick to demonize someone who was a dumb kid who probably just severely got in over their head? Nah. Theyre just a person with issues like everyone else. They should have refunded everything they could have, though.
@@yuushanaruto9676 It doesn't have to refund anything because it doesn't charge you until the Kickstarter ends AND the goal is met. Since this goal wasn't met at all, Kickstarter never charged anyone anything.
I was friends with Lemonteaflower while all this was going on and it was so hard to watch all the traumatic levels of hate she (might go by they now? not sure) was getting at the time. I always defended her as best I could because she is a really nice person and was just very young and in over her head at the time but I'm only one person vs THOUSANDS so I sadly couldn't do much I'm happy she's been able to continue her art career and is actually working in animation for real now and was able to move on from all this, though I assume she needed a lot of therapy Edit: it's so nice to see this comment section filled with mostly reasonable comments, thank all of you for being so fair to LTF
IRL best friend of hers here! I was there too and it was HORRIBLE because she herself was underage and (i kid you not) like a week after she turned 18 and I went to her party this shit started :) She had to go to therapy and take a fuckton of pills over something she had 0 control and was manipulated into! Right now because of this video she had to leave social media again and is under meds and therapy again. Don't you love drama?
@@AnaPijamas Oh man that's rough, since this video is pretty unbiased I didn't think it would bring any hate to her but I guess that kinda thing always happens huh I'm glad she's still going to therapy though that's good, I really do wish the best for her
@@Bettersucksaul Bish she was 17 just turned 18 when she did the '"""cp""" art. She was underage drawing characters her own age and being stupid online. It was 10 fucking years ago. Stop demonizing female queer mexicans we get 10 women killed every day already to care about stupid teen drama from a decade ago, go to actual male white groomers that are actually right now doing horrible shit if you wanna make a change.
So much of Tumblr drama reminds me of my elementary school dramas. It starts like we love playing tag, then we decide to make it a club with ranking positions, the “executives” begin to go on power trips without having any capability to organize anything, it’s no longer fun at all, then the club just dissolves until we decide to make another club about something else.
Tiktok's Ratatouille the musical actually slaps, so perhaps one day an app full of teens will be able to get an overly ambitious project off the ground after all?
I'm afraid that the company will steal it, idk for now they haven't asked for money (i don't know much), and the majority is doing it for free, is pretty amazing tbh
I was looking for a video on this subject a couple weeks ago and couldn't find one. Today is my birthday and I am getting one from a youtuber I like, how cool!
I worked for an indie animation studio, the price per minute of finished animation was 10k which is on the low end so a 80k price for a 7 minute pilot isn’t inconceivable or even ridiculous, though perhaps a bit steep for an armature work.
Man. Such a shame. Had it been in better hands, Miss Officer and Mr. Truffles could’ve actually been a show and could’ve been good. Edit: Forget I said anything the reply section has just brought to my attention how bad an idea this was oops.
I’m so glad I wasn’t this ambitious at 18. My freshman year of college, I started writing a webcomic, but after posting only 2 chapters I realized how hard it was to balance school and a big personal project. I’ve put that comic on hold and I’m 10x happier going one step at a time.
Hearing a non-Canadian pronounce Newfoundland as three separate words always reminds me of what a dumb name it is. When we say it, it ends up sounding more like "Newfinlind"
While the idea of Ms. Officer and Mr. Truffles is cute, I don't really know what you would've done with it. It just seems like a cutesy version of Brickleberry. This reminds of that one post about the old guy who wanted to make friends with folks at barbecue parties and advertised that on Tinder. Everyone(including myself) thought it was a cute and funny story, but then everyone found out that he was actually a registered sex offender with multiple convictions. I think that's why I rarely reblog these famous Tumblr chains, because I always get the feeling there's some dark story behind them that I'm not aware of.
Wow, never knew LemonTeaFlower was that deep into Tumblr drama years ago, all I know her from is the fact she’s an Artist working on a Cartoon Network Show called Villainous, it isn’t out yet but overall is a really cool show with a lot of potential!
@@winxy5191 yeah. There's plenty of screenshots of Alan not crediting artists who work on the pilot episode. The whole controversy was swept under the rug. He also hired the person in this video which that alone is scummy. Don't even get me started on his shady behavior around fans and coworkers.
Tumblr people have a trend of really being into a really basic concept, make a shit ton of posts about it and try to make it a big thing, and when something is attempted about it... they don't know how to do it properly, almost like they don't know what they are doing. Basically dashcons over and over again.
I think it's because a lot of the people doing this stuff are young, and don't have the experience to know everything that goes into running a big project. Especially pr, administrative stuff, and managing a team
@@rainstorm9023 It's a mix between literally kids and young adults that clearly didn't mature enough. Dashcon was organizated by adults and that went so great. I was very young when I used to go there and seeing people excited about a concept was cool to me, especially how many people did fanart but at that point I didn't know how tumblr people used to be since I was a kid myself.
My old animator friend briefly worked on this. The last real conversation we ever had was about how much of a raging clusterfrick this project was. She was hopping mad about basically being used for slave labor. She was a gullible lass.
@@Otra_Chica_de_Internet tumblr scam similar to this one. there was a post like "what if there was a sitcom with a really shy and introverted pansexual and a really outgoing extroverted asexual and they were friends and it was called all or nothing" money was raised, nothing happened
Wasn't there a whole thing where LTF wasn't the one behind the kickstarter? they drew the original art, but I have vague memories of them answering asks explaining that it wasn't their project. I might be misremembering, though.
Yes. LTF was the only person who actually lost money from this because an older person took over the financial side. Once the drama began LTF was left to handle the abuse and death threats and the third party disappeared with the money
So I know it wasn't the point of the video, but everyone please remember: Don't feed wildlife, ESPECIALLY BEARS. Because that is signing their death sentence.
I remember seeing that picture, but in my circle of Tumblr everyone was just pointing out that a baby bear approaching you means you're in immediate danger of being attacked by a mother bear.
The fact that you didnt let the second line finish in the goddamn transition music will haunt me because I will not be assed to look up the song and go down that rabbit hole! *glares* I hope you're happy with yourself.
Pretty tragic part of Tumblr history.. It started as a cute project based off an actual photo, with even merch being made, lot of love for it, and almost being made into an actual cartoon, but of course it went into flames when the Kickstarter project was mistreating the people a part of the project and the person who first made the concept being discovered to make underage NSFW in the past made people lose hope and go against the project, I kinda find it sad because it started as this innocent concept into drama and now being the biggest Tumblr "scam" I had "" because I think about the Kickstarter as more of a failed project then a scam personally.. But yeah, at least we can learn something about this part of internet history.
I remember when I was in high school the creator was close friends with my math teacher, and during one of our intersession classes she came in and was pitching the idea to us students. Who at the time were 15-16. I know a few of us thought it was interesting but like everyone in that class as soon as she left we forgot about it. I only found out 2 years later that it was a tumblr dumpster fire and there was supposedly a lot of drama behind it.
This vid isn't meant to upset anyone who dreams of going into animation, no matter what inspired you. Its just a cautionary tale and a warning not to invest in something that is overpriced and likely a scam. I believe in you and hope you do well x
Please continue your dream of animation! This isn't supposed to scare anyone away from animation, it's just a cautionary tale of something being in the wrong hands. I'd love to see your animation!
I used to be roommates with this bear back in college. He's doing OK now, but he never forgave the force for killing his buddy. He handed in his badge and went back to living in the woods after that.
I’ve always thought that when someone says “Someone should make a real show!” it was a joke and that’s it. I had no idea people were actually attempting to make it happen (whether with ‘Miss Officer and Mister Truffles’ or ‘All or Nothing’).
miss officer and mr truffles was truly a product of its time... could you imagine if they released it in 2020 theyd get at least 5 death threats and a cease and desist
Would be kinda hilarious if this adorable cartoon of a cop and a bear were pitched today to tumblr of all places, and have the kickstarter get flooded with ACAB comments.
@@_G4.R4_ Why? I'd say you're the cringe one pal, denying police brutality in the face of like,,, every awful thing that happened this year involving cops is not a good look. ACAB buddy.
"Then they did something worse......they made a Kickstarter" The amount of Internet war stories that comes from the phrase "they made a Kickstarter" is frightening, to say the least.
It was always bound to fail. The team hadn't even begun brainstorming what the show would actually be ABOUT. You can't base an entire cartoon off a memey gimic.
I remember immediately after dashcon someone made a post about a fandom themed British style pub where all the drinks were superwholock related and everyone started doing the "OMG LETS MAKE THIS A REAL THING" thing and I looked at it and thought "It has been less than a week and they have already forgotten"
after all the stories i've heard about artists not getting paid for their work, i'm surprised people haven't started putting a watermark on the first image they show the person, and only sending the original/unwatermarked version after they receive payment. i'm not an artist but i've created other kinds of content, and the ONE TIME i sent before getting paid, they blocked me immediately afterwards and never paid me. ever since then, i've been very strictly never sending anything before i have the money, but i understand for things like this they have to actually show what they've made, which sucks because seeing people getting ripped off for anything makes me so pissed.
They would have been better off starting with a Webcomic or testing the waters with just 1 physical volume comic book to build their fanbase until some big company noticed them to sponsor them to even make a actual show.
I remember being on Tumblr around the time this was a thing, even made a Miss Officer shirt in Animal Crossing New Leaf. I never really thought much about the project coming to a stop because I didn't look up much stuff & am use to stuff just showing up & getting attention before just suddenly disappearing. It's unfortunate how things turned out. I think I was aware of a kickstarter being made but at the same time I don't remember it. Memories are a weird thing.
This vid actually made me so sad.. like i remember seeing it on tumblr and loving the concept 💖 it looked so adorable ig this is why we can't have nice things ://
Bruh they're like, forest cops. I'm sure there's some of the same type of people who do that and regular police work, but forest cops are pretty wholesome.. as far as I'm aware.
@@fisheggs6755 she was RCMP and they’re... well, there’s a reason ACAB doesn’t have an asterisk next to it. They’re not like us forestry services or anything like that and they’re largely responsible for policing native/First Nations people. Take what they’re doing in wet'suwet'en territory as an example.
Homestuck and if I remember right, onceler porn, too. Hah I was one of the people who’d place art suggestions back in those days, not knowing how bad it would get
I love the way you present content! You give us the straight facts, WITH all the information you can find and where you found it, but there's this lovely strong personality that comes through in the background with your fantastical looks and the growing(?) quantity of Garfields. Watching your videos feels like staying at an odd but favorable friend's house where you know you are going to get the most unfiltered and bizarre yet accurate drama. And yet none of it feels gratuitous or mean-spirited. I'm so delighted that your channel continues to grow because I think you do this type of video with a lot more care and finesse than I've seen from other people. Some people just bash the person at the center of any of these dramas to death and it comes off as so weirdly bitter and overinvested. I just binge watched your past five or so videos while drawing and it was very enjoyable!
As some one with Newfoundland ancestry and a born & raised Canadian, it would've been so cool to get some rep. Sad this was a scam bc it seems so cool in theory.
III auditioned for this show. It was shortly after the cast got announced basically right after I did that I started smelling blood in the water (waaaay later than I should have).
whenever im bored, i go to your channel. youve helped me stay entertained and i love everything you talk about. youve also helped me a shit ton on my mental health. youve made me laugh, and moreover be interested in the overall content you make. you make my day and i hope you know that.
I remember seeing the original tumblr post after the 3 extra pictures were added- thought it was cute. Never knew it ended up becoming like this eventually.
I'm really glad you give the disclaimer at the end to not target and harass people involved in some of these situations. People make mistakes sometimes, especially when they're in over their head. I've been following lemonteaflower's work for years without ever knowing about this stuff and I can say she is nowhere near the person she's claimed to be in some of those comments.
@@BabyCharmander you’re definitely thinking Nintendogs, where you take care of a dog. Somehow, petz dogs 2 is not a simulation game, but an adventure game(?)
@@sailorstar.ch. N... no??? I'm definitely not thinking of Nintendogs?? I'm thinking of the Petz series, which is Dogz and Catz (1-5, I think--I have Catz 5 on my computer), which were pet sims. The pets were super cartoony and it had a REALLY in-depth breeding system. They're old games but have a pretty dedicated mod community, where people have put new species into the games, allowed you to crossbreed, etc. It's kindof amazing.
@@sailorstar.ch. ...okay looking this up, there seem to be two separate series of games with the same name, however that works. I guess that's where the confusion stems from here.
Man, every time I see something like this from the kickstarters of tumblr, I remember that one johnlock series that still keeps getting updates but fell from a huge deal to just one person working on it in her spare time 7 years later.
I REMEMBER SEEING THIS COMIC AND THINKING IT WAS SO CUTE BUT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT ALL OF THIS DAMN
Same I've seen this on instagram and went "aww!" A couple of times and then forgot about it...til now!
Same i thought it would be so fun, but wouldnt go anywhere (guess i was right lol)
Me too! I really enjoyed the concept. I even remembered captions saying that someone should make it into an animated show. Wow...
Me too!!
same, I had like flashbacks to these images
I think id be really uncomfortable if people online tried to make me a fiction character in a show
Hmm
You just know that if moamt actually became a series, the irl officer would be referred to with basic one dimensional personality traits. Like the cartoon has her mention potato chips as her favorites snack once and everyone makes potato chips jokes to her
Ngl I want to see myself in a cartoon. Wonder what type of character I would be.
@@underuS3d_ A very lazy character lol
@@penpeen2185 Oh. Imagine in some show where the casts is being introduced and then the cast is only missing one person because that one person was so lazy he didn't even show up to the show. Sounds neat.
"Something terrible happened, they launched a kickstarter"
*gets an ad about saving money*
I got an Eric Andre show ad LMFAO
I didn't get any ads but I bet they would of either been "Grammarly" or "Audible".
I got blistex lmao it’s calling me out
foreshadowing
Mine was for dominos
i personally don't think this was meant to be a scam, just a young person dealing with something they absolutely 10000% were not ready for
yeah, everyone calling it a "scam" confuses me, it's not like the person was planning on pocketing all the money, i think they genuinely wanted to make something and just had no clue how much time and money went into making a show.
everyone acting like lemonteaflower was some malicious scammer trying to get money from people feels off to me, i don't think they deserve the levels of hate they got.
thank you for bringing me the experience of hearing Catz 2 music again for the first time in 10 years
chep
cursed again
Chip?!
Helo
I KNEW IT
I didn't know Miss Officer and Mr Truffles got this bad, the biggest tv show scam I knew about from Tumblr was All or Nothing.
That was the one with the pan and the ace roommates, right??
@@clownclot that's the one
the mention of all or nothing set of my flight or fight response i forgot about that post
Wait it tried to become more than a funny post I-
wait all or nothing tried to become a thing?? holy shit
Reminds me of the time someone scammed tumblr by faking a kickstarter for a show about a pansexual and asexual being roommates.
'All or Nothing'. I remember that lmao
Sht, that sounds fun :(
ALL OR NOTHING OMG
LMAO ALL OR NOTHING
Ooohhh.... is THAT what All or Nothing was?????
Heya Izzzyzzz, I just wanna say that I was the one who made the short 11 seconds fan animation and that this video got people to come by the old video and comment on it (no harrassment though, just comments) but I also wanna thank you for mentioning that the animation was just a fan animation and not made for the Kickstarter project itself. I made that short animation for fun and didn't even know it was used for the Kickstarter until someone mentioned it in a comment 4 years ago, which I was not privy to and very much do not appreciate that they did that. I just want everyone who's watching Izzzyzzz video here to know that I have no connection to that failed Kickstarter (again, I never even knew they did a Kickstarter for it) and my animation was NOT made for that.
Hey, just wanted to tell you I was a big fan of the comics you did for Pixie Trix Comix, when you did that animation it was like a huge crossover event for 16 year old me
@@maddodeuil3342 Ahh, thank you ^o^
Damn. That's messed up they used it without your permission
I think you privated it? I watched it a few hours ago and now cant find it. Just wanna say it was adorable and really well done
@@delleugenio Thank you, but I decided to delete it just recently cos I've been rebranding my channel anyway, so that old thing is just not something I feel like fits my channel anymore. Thank you for the kind words though, I really appreciate it ^^
The art style looks like the most 2014 tumblr art I've ever seen.
😂
Is that bad? I think the art style is good. Not all in the internet is made for you
@@Limacinablues They said it was reminiscent of a style common on a certain era of tumblr. Never did they give an opinion on quality on a scale of good to bad.
@@dawgwithoutablog But there is no way such "Tumblr art style" People in that platform had different art style
@@Limacinablues While people had/have different artstyles (across ALL eras), there are definitely traits of artstyles that tend to get like REALLY associated with a fandom/site. (For example, with the FNAF fandom it's that style used for the Purple Guy thing) Big eyes, a general more roundness to features.
Although admittedly I agree with you that the comment OP made kinda comes across like insulting the '2014 Tumblr Style'
“This radiated a dark vibe now.”
He knew. He knew, and yet we didn't listen.
That was a current comment reflecting on how badly the situation went. He didn’t predict the future. It was a comment left AFTER all this went down. That’s why he included the word NOW in his comment. Eg ‘this radiates a dark energy now that it’s been used to scam people out of thousands of dollars’
The combination of your makeup, calming demeanor, and love of Garfield, just sets off my fight or flight reflex in a deeply primitive manner
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Similar but for e it's the crooked septum '-' I keep fixing mine right now because of that. Constantly.
izzy is a living oc change my mind
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@@ITZSKYELAR delete your comment right now.
Sounds like they pulled a Butch Hartman
@@cyschan i hate to tell you this but...
@@cyschan he has a channel and traces
Can any animator that scam people be called butch hartman
Eg: oh god animator (animator name) butch hartmanned all of us
If you're talking about the 11 seconds animation that was shown in the video over and over, I am said animator and I do not trace artworks or do scams. If you're talking about lemonteaflower however, I have no idea. I was not involved in the Kickstarter and my animation was not made for that project, it was just a fan animation made for fun.
Mismanagement and biting off more than you can chew is not the same as trying to use your fanbase to fund a Christian propaganda network and going on to push "pray the autism away" quackery.
Tumblr scams are my favourite flavor of scams; hits different from other kinds of scams
Right? Tumblr likes to put out such a wholesome image, but they're no more immune to scams than anyone
@@yannickgrignon2473 I wouldn't say they put out a wholesome image, most people on the site are self aware of the fact that every company who's baught the site has lost money selling it and that people in general there can be toxic. Maybe pre-2015 tumblr had an idea of being ~the coolest place on the internet~ but it's just not the case anymore
Theres just something about tumblr that's slightly off kilter with the rest of reality so we end up with this animation scam or the race-faking aids scam or the grave robbing bone thief
@@jojoslameerrand9305 Literally on no other site could I meet a grave robber or a soon-to-be-arrested murderer, or idk someone posing as a 13 years old disabled minority purely for clout. And that's worth it
@@smpmuzpid Perhaps but you see, on 4chan you can't follow someone and talk with them via DMs only to find out three months later that they were arrested for something absolutely wild. It's just not the same vibe. 4chan is like an anonymous alcoholics meeting where everyone has a sack on their head. Tumblr is a psych ward, but online.
The thing about tumblr scams is that the scammers don’t even have to try to convince people to pay money for it
You know of all the Tumblr scams, this one is the least egregious? More a young person getting too much ambition and caught up in the height than anything else. It's unfortunate, but especially since it didn't reach its goal, it feels weird to have this much infamy especially compared to something like all or nothing or hell dashcon.
I don't understand why this got so much hate when the money was returned 😕
I'm 18 and I can't believe that anyone thought someone my age could manage themself, let alone a team of animators
This video made me take psychic damage, thanks for remainding me of this!
The term psychic damage gives me psychic damage. The first time I ever heard the term I laughed my butt off.
weeena pollo good to see you around here!
Siempre es bakan verte talking vidya, saludos desde Chile!
ok, esto no lo esperaba
psychic damage!
they were barely an adult at the time.. i dont really blame them for messing up they were really in over their head more than anything malicious
I agree with this. What they did was wrong, but people are really quick to demonize others. Its really easy to get in over your head as a young artist. And people falling back on the things they used to draw just rubs me wrong. Thought crime vibes, do they want making certain pencil markings to be illegal?
Art is expression, of even the twisted things inside us. Its art. Its not real. Blame reality for reality, art is just a reflection of what already exists, interpreted by the individual. Something can be disgusting and despicable to me - but people still have the right to draw said thing. I firmly believe that.
Like I said, they were in the wrong for this whole scandal, but the way people are so quick to demonize someone who was a dumb kid who probably just severely got in over their head? Nah. Theyre just a person with issues like everyone else. They should have refunded everything they could have, though.
@@lonancblackwood8727 i couldn't of said that better myself
God, I wish people could give this comment more attention. It seriously concerns me how many comments there are about cancelling her
@@lonancblackwood8727 Doesn't kickstarter refund all projects that don't reach their goals? Why'd you make a point about refunding every one?
@@yuushanaruto9676 It doesn't have to refund anything because it doesn't charge you until the Kickstarter ends AND the goal is met. Since this goal wasn't met at all, Kickstarter never charged anyone anything.
why does the transition music sound like bootleg neil cicieregia
rfYHNUSTHYFDGTHFNTYH
now that you say it, it kinda does 😳
this is lemons
petition for neil to do a cover of it 😌
@greasynoodleglasses12 12" orange satan" by joel circus
I was friends with Lemonteaflower while all this was going on and it was so hard to watch all the traumatic levels of hate she (might go by they now? not sure) was getting at the time. I always defended her as best I could because she is a really nice person and was just very young and in over her head at the time but I'm only one person vs THOUSANDS so I sadly couldn't do much
I'm happy she's been able to continue her art career and is actually working in animation for real now and was able to move on from all this, though I assume she needed a lot of therapy
Edit: it's so nice to see this comment section filled with mostly reasonable comments, thank all of you for being so fair to LTF
IRL best friend of hers here! I was there too and it was HORRIBLE because she herself was underage and (i kid you not) like a week after she turned 18 and I went to her party this shit started :) She had to go to therapy and take a fuckton of pills over something she had 0 control and was manipulated into! Right now because of this video she had to leave social media again and is under meds and therapy again. Don't you love drama?
@@AnaPijamas Oh man that's rough, since this video is pretty unbiased I didn't think it would bring any hate to her but I guess that kinda thing always happens huh
I'm glad she's still going to therapy though that's good, I really do wish the best for her
@@AnaPijamas Ah yes blame it on the video for discussing her past fuckups and cp art.
@@Bettersucksaul Bish she was 17 just turned 18 when she did the '"""cp""" art. She was underage drawing characters her own age and being stupid online. It was 10 fucking years ago. Stop demonizing female queer mexicans we get 10 women killed every day already to care about stupid teen drama from a decade ago, go to actual male white groomers that are actually right now doing horrible shit if you wanna make a change.
@@AnaPijamas what does her being Mexican or queer have to do with this?
So much of Tumblr drama reminds me of my elementary school dramas. It starts like we love playing tag, then we decide to make it a club with ranking positions, the “executives” begin to go on power trips without having any capability to organize anything, it’s no longer fun at all, then the club just dissolves until we decide to make another club about something else.
Tiktok's Ratatouille the musical actually slaps, so perhaps one day an app full of teens will be able to get an overly ambitious project off the ground after all?
YOU HAVE JINXED US ALL
I'm afraid that the company will steal it, idk for now they haven't asked for money (i don't know much), and the majority is doing it for free, is pretty amazing tbh
I thought malinda kathleen reese worked on it too
@@mirror1643 Don't worry I touched wood for them
Aaahhh
I love izzzyz content so much!! Its like a breath of fresh air in these youtube streets. 😭💕💕💕
Eh.....I really wouldn´t say "breath of fresh air"........
EXACTLY!!
Wow AHHH thank you that really means a lot, I love ur content too??!!! 😭💞💞💞
@@Izzzyzzz WAHH IZZZYY STOPPP!! IVE LITERALLY BEEN A FAN SINCE U HIT 15K 😭😭😭 IM SHOOK💕💕💕💕
@@Thumin JDHDHS??!! WTF THIS LITERALLY MADE MY DAY OMGGGG 😭😭💞💞💞 TYSM!!
I was looking for a video on this subject a couple weeks ago and couldn't find one. Today is my birthday and I am getting one from a youtuber I like, how cool!
Happy birthday!!!! 🎉🎉
Happy birthday to you , Staric Zipperbel
H4ppy b!rthd4y!!
happy birthday you wonderful funky sagittarius
Happy birthday 🎂
I worked for an indie animation studio, the price per minute of finished animation was 10k which is on the low end so a 80k price for a 7 minute pilot isn’t inconceivable or even ridiculous, though perhaps a bit steep for an armature work.
Instead of an animated episode, why couldnt this have been a webcomic? Its much cheaper and withing the scope of the artist to make.
Man. Such a shame. Had it been in better hands, Miss Officer and Mr. Truffles could’ve actually been a show and could’ve been good.
Edit: Forget I said anything the reply section has just brought to my attention how bad an idea this was oops.
No it was a dumb idea from the start
@@12Tecpatl good shows have come from dumber ideas, so that's neither here nor there
@@12Tecpatl I would love to see you make a good show then...well we’re waiting hon.
@@tinyte5668 you can not like the premise of a show even if you're not a writer lol
@@tinyte5668 *laughs in creative writing*
I’m so glad I wasn’t this ambitious at 18. My freshman year of college, I started writing a webcomic, but after posting only 2 chapters I realized how hard it was to balance school and a big personal project. I’ve put that comic on hold and I’m 10x happier going one step at a time.
Did u ever finish that comic? :]
@@jacky6160 No. but now I’m graduated and I have actually begun rewriting and developing it again. Goal is to start posting it in 2024
@@troubledcryst4498 that’s great! I hope i can read it one day :>
Hearing a non-Canadian pronounce Newfoundland as three separate words always reminds me of what a dumb name it is. When we say it, it ends up sounding more like "Newfinlind"
As an American the only reason I pronounce it correctly is because my best friends dog is a Newfoundland.
It’s like those text-to-speech calls I’d get when school was closed, “New-Found-Lind&Labrador English school district...”
I hate when people pronounce it like that too, and i'm not even Canadian
I KNOW RIGHT
im canadian and all of my american friends say it so weirdly
I'm from there and I say it like "new fin land" with emphasis on new
"This radiates a dark dark vibe now."
*THEY KNEW*
While the idea of Ms. Officer and Mr. Truffles is cute, I don't really know what you would've done with it. It just seems like a cutesy version of Brickleberry.
This reminds of that one post about the old guy who wanted to make friends with folks at barbecue parties and advertised that on Tinder. Everyone(including myself) thought it was a cute and funny story, but then everyone found out that he was actually a registered sex offender with multiple convictions.
I think that's why I rarely reblog these famous Tumblr chains, because I always get the feeling there's some dark story behind them that I'm not aware of.
JESUS that's one hell of a plot twist
could you imagine if this actually worked out and we’d be watching the pilots for this and All Or Nothing at the dashcon animation panel
it would be a much weirder timeline but i kind of think it'd be a bit more wholesome of a timeline
Wow, never knew LemonTeaFlower was that deep into Tumblr drama years ago, all I know her from is the fact she’s an Artist working on a Cartoon Network Show called Villainous, it isn’t out yet but overall is a really cool show with a lot of potential!
wouldnt be the first time CN hired shady individuals
The creator of Villainous is a creepy dude and a scammer as well. I wouldn't recommend any of his content.
@@crazyface5397 awww really? Got and proof?
@@winxy5191 yeah. There's plenty of screenshots of Alan not crediting artists who work on the pilot episode. The whole controversy was swept under the rug. He also hired the person in this video which that alone is scummy. Don't even get me started on his shady behavior around fans and coworkers.
LemonTeaFlower actually mocked at the uncredited people who worked in Villainous, and Alan reacted positively at that.
Tumblr people have a trend of really being into a really basic concept, make a shit ton of posts about it and try to make it a big thing, and when something is attempted about it... they don't know how to do it properly, almost like they don't know what they are doing.
Basically dashcons over and over again.
"I didn't think I would get this far"
-Tumblr, probably
I think it's because a lot of the people doing this stuff are young, and don't have the experience to know everything that goes into running a big project. Especially pr, administrative stuff, and managing a team
Literally everything that originates or is popularized by Tumblr is awful. No matter what.
@@rainstorm9023 It's a mix between literally kids and young adults that clearly didn't mature enough. Dashcon was organizated by adults and that went so great.
I was very young when I used to go there and seeing people excited about a concept was cool to me, especially how many people did fanart but at that point I didn't know how tumblr people used to be since I was a kid myself.
chihiro? idk how to spell it
RCMP: "No no no, we killed a /different/ baby animal! It's cool."
Yeah like what the fuck?
My old animator friend briefly worked on this. The last real conversation we ever had was about how much of a raging clusterfrick this project was. She was hopping mad about basically being used for slave labor. She was a gullible lass.
"all or nothing" vibes
ive been looking for this comment lmfao. I didnt even know abt this until ive watched this vid but i somehow remember "All or Nothing"
whats that?
@@Otra_Chica_de_Internet tumblr scam similar to this one. there was a post like "what if there was a sitcom with a really shy and introverted pansexual and a really outgoing extroverted asexual and they were friends and it was called all or nothing" money was raised, nothing happened
@sasasasa As someone who was like 15 and on tumblr then, that comment was a strike in the gut, but it also made me laugh until my sides hurt
@sasasasa yep, i was like 11ish years old on tumblr when i discovered it iirc (i should NOT have been on there)
Wasn't there a whole thing where LTF wasn't the one behind the kickstarter? they drew the original art, but I have vague memories of them answering asks explaining that it wasn't their project.
I might be misremembering, though.
Yes. LTF was the only person who actually lost money from this because an older person took over the financial side. Once the drama began LTF was left to handle the abuse and death threats and the third party disappeared with the money
No that was schrodingersnerd from the beautifully tragic All or Nothing disaster
I think that was the All or Nothing thing! The artist drew the art that ended up being featured on it but they weren't involved in the Kickstarter
@@happyllama1160 wasn't that All or Nothing? (It just sounds very similar)
As always watching Tumblr constantly and consistently shoot itself in the foot is a great way to spend time. And also rad makeup!!
Fucking love that website
yeah, theyre doing it again rn with the post+ stuff
So I know it wasn't the point of the video, but everyone please remember: Don't feed wildlife, ESPECIALLY BEARS. Because that is signing their death sentence.
I remember seeing that picture, but in my circle of Tumblr everyone was just pointing out that a baby bear approaching you means you're in immediate danger of being attacked by a mother bear.
just had a crisis seeing technoblade in the part where you were demonstrating that tumblr likes animation. there's no escaping the minecraft men
i just looked again and like 4 posts down there was an animatic with tommy,,, no escape
no one can escape the block men. no one.
Heaven is the ultimate escape from the earthly horrors we have grown to accept
I remember this, i remember rebloging the og post, the kickstarter post, and the aftermath
*Miss officer and mr Truffles~*
*You know they're gonna-*
my eyes widened when you said "lemonteaflower" i originally discovered her from this funny Gorillaz drawing and then found all her other art
This is literally what happens when theres that one person who takes the joke way too far to the point where it isn’t funny
The sad thing is that this happened so soon after dashcon, like tumblr didn't learn their lesson
The fact that you didnt let the second line finish in the goddamn transition music will haunt me because I will not be assed to look up the song and go down that rabbit hole!
*glares* I hope you're happy with yourself.
I have gotten that one snippet of lyrics stuck in my head way too many times since I watched this video.
The funny fact that now Lemonteaflower is working on Villanous from Cartoon network
Pretty tragic part of Tumblr history.. It started as a cute project based off an actual photo, with even merch being made, lot of love for it, and almost being made into an actual cartoon, but of course it went into flames when the Kickstarter project was mistreating the people a part of the project and the person who first made the concept being discovered to make underage NSFW in the past made people lose hope and go against the project, I kinda find it sad because it started as this innocent concept into drama and now being the biggest Tumblr "scam" I had "" because I think about the Kickstarter as more of a failed project then a scam personally.. But yeah, at least we can learn something about this part of internet history.
I remember when I was in high school the creator was close friends with my math teacher, and during one of our intersession classes she came in and was pitching the idea to us students. Who at the time were 15-16. I know a few of us thought it was interesting but like everyone in that class as soon as she left we forgot about it. I only found out 2 years later that it was a tumblr dumpster fire and there was supposedly a lot of drama behind it.
me, a 13 year old who is working on an animated series that all started because i saw a picture of some cats on tumblr: 👁👄👁💧
As long as you don’t beg people for money you’re good lol. Tumblr needs some good animation and I believe in you!
I’d love to watch that
This vid isn't meant to upset anyone who dreams of going into animation, no matter what inspired you. Its just a cautionary tale and a warning not to invest in something that is overpriced and likely a scam. I believe in you and hope you do well x
Please continue your dream of animation! This isn't supposed to scare anyone away from animation, it's just a cautionary tale of something being in the wrong hands. I'd love to see your animation!
Aww, I'd love to see that!
I used to be roommates with this bear back in college. He's doing OK now, but he never forgave the force for killing his buddy. He handed in his badge and went back to living in the woods after that.
“Miss officer and mister truffles, you know they’re gonna get…”
Me: THEY’RE GONNA GET WHAT!?
"In to trouble" maybe
I’ve always thought that when someone says “Someone should make a real show!” it was a joke and that’s it.
I had no idea people were actually attempting to make it happen (whether with ‘Miss Officer and Mister Truffles’ or ‘All or Nothing’).
My god people just can’t let anything be nice can they. Just let it be a cute photo but no we have to make it into a show
miss officer and mr truffles was truly a product of its time... could you imagine if they released it in 2020 theyd get at least 5 death threats and a cease and desist
Would be kinda hilarious if this adorable cartoon of a cop and a bear were pitched today to tumblr of all places, and have the kickstarter get flooded with ACAB comments.
What is ACAB?
@@Notwoodcrawler all cops are bad/bastards. Popular movement esp in the west due to cop/civilian violence and injustices.
@@Notwoodcrawler All Cops Are Bastards.
@@Notwoodcrawler I dunno 🗿👐
@@Notwoodcrawlersorry for the late reply, it stands for “All Cops Are Bastards”
Redacted cuz yall have no chill
Same though.
Sorry I don't feel sympathy for cops :/
Holy shoot how did this get likes?? Woah I'm not a good commenter this was a nice surprise :D
@@victorthecollector9198 pretty cringe take
@@_G4.R4_ Why? I'd say you're the cringe one pal, denying police brutality in the face of like,,, every awful thing that happened this year involving cops is not a good look. ACAB buddy.
I'm just upset they didn't go with "you know they're gotta get into scuffles" THE RHYME WAS RIGHT THERE!
Man hearing she was an RCMP officer had me scared for any indigenous people in this project
“There’s more merchandise then animation”
Hmmmm where did i hear/see that before *slowly looks at Mattel*
"Then they did something worse......they made a Kickstarter"
The amount of Internet war stories that comes from the phrase "they made a Kickstarter" is frightening, to say the least.
It was always bound to fail. The team hadn't even begun brainstorming what the show would actually be ABOUT. You can't base an entire cartoon off a memey gimic.
I remember immediately after dashcon someone made a post about a fandom themed British style pub where all the drinks were superwholock related and everyone started doing the "OMG LETS MAKE THIS A REAL THING" thing and I looked at it and thought "It has been less than a week and they have already forgotten"
after all the stories i've heard about artists not getting paid for their work, i'm surprised people haven't started putting a watermark on the first image they show the person, and only sending the original/unwatermarked version after they receive payment. i'm not an artist but i've created other kinds of content, and the ONE TIME i sent before getting paid, they blocked me immediately afterwards and never paid me. ever since then, i've been very strictly never sending anything before i have the money, but i understand for things like this they have to actually show what they've made, which sucks because seeing people getting ripped off for anything makes me so pissed.
maybe staying up late is a good thing :0)
It's almost 3 AM for me and,,, jeez I'm glad I stayed up too lol
Yup definitely Lmao
well worth the insomnia
gyshdjsf i use that smile face too :0)))))
2am for me rn
4.23 for thy.
They would have been better off starting with a Webcomic or testing the waters with just 1 physical volume comic book to build their fanbase until some big company noticed them to sponsor them to even make a actual show.
To think this Kickstarter and Dashcon occurred within a month of each other… I miss the craziness of 2014 Tumblr, almost.
"Thomas Sanders for some reason" I'm already feeling called out but I love it
I remember being on Tumblr around the time this was a thing, even made a Miss Officer shirt in Animal Crossing New Leaf. I never really thought much about the project coming to a stop because I didn't look up much stuff & am use to stuff just showing up & getting attention before just suddenly disappearing. It's unfortunate how things turned out. I think I was aware of a kickstarter being made but at the same time I don't remember it. Memories are a weird thing.
I love your hair today!! it looks so pretty!
18 year old draws disturbing imagery: and other news that should stop surprising people
17 year old.
I deeply enjoy that I got to live through so much Tumblr drama. It’s truly like documenting ancient civilizations.
This vid actually made me so sad.. like i remember seeing it on tumblr and loving the concept 💖 it looked so adorable ig this is why we can't have nice things ://
“Lets make a cute animation about cops” said no one, ever
Isn't she a forest service cop? At most they deal with people hunting and fishing illegally.
Cops bad cops bad grgrrggrr
you got it, marion
Bruh they're like, forest cops. I'm sure there's some of the same type of people who do that and regular police work, but forest cops are pretty wholesome.. as far as I'm aware.
@@fisheggs6755 she was RCMP and they’re... well, there’s a reason ACAB doesn’t have an asterisk next to it. They’re not like us forestry services or anything like that and they’re largely responsible for policing native/First Nations people. Take what they’re doing in wet'suwet'en territory as an example.
I came for the tumbler drama and stayed for the Garfields in the back
Really creative and clever name for the officer
Goddammit as soon as the post appeared on my dash I knew it was gonna become a scandal
YO THE BACKGROUND MUSIC BROUGHT BACK SO MANY MEMORIES OML
Animated Cops And Bears
L E S T W E F O R G E T
So, she wasn't cancelled because she was running a scam, she was cancelled because she used to draw homestuck rule34...........
ok
Homestuck and if I remember right, onceler porn, too. Hah I was one of the people who’d place art suggestions back in those days, not knowing how bad it would get
@@FanSoulEater I'm still amazed that there used to be a specific Onceler fandom of all things.
Honestly I would be pissed if a bunch of tumblr kids made a cartoon about me and some random bear without my consent. At all.
I love the way you present content! You give us the straight facts, WITH all the information you can find and where you found it, but there's this lovely strong personality that comes through in the background with your fantastical looks and the growing(?) quantity of Garfields. Watching your videos feels like staying at an odd but favorable friend's house where you know you are going to get the most unfiltered and bizarre yet accurate drama. And yet none of it feels gratuitous or mean-spirited.
I'm so delighted that your channel continues to grow because I think you do this type of video with a lot more care and finesse than I've seen from other people. Some people just bash the person at the center of any of these dramas to death and it comes off as so weirdly bitter and overinvested. I just binge watched your past five or so videos while drawing and it was very enjoyable!
As some one with Newfoundland ancestry and a born & raised Canadian, it would've been so cool to get some rep. Sad this was a scam bc it seems so cool in theory.
If there's anything I've learned from your videos its that the words tumblr and Kickstarter together are absolutely heinous
III auditioned for this show. It was shortly after the cast got announced basically right after I did that I started smelling blood in the water (waaaay later than I should have).
I remember this. I was there, 3000 years ago.
whenever im bored, i go to your channel. youve helped me stay entertained and i love everything you talk about. youve also helped me a shit ton on my mental health. youve made me laugh, and moreover be interested in the overall content you make. you make my day and i hope you know that.
Woah, I remember seeing the first little illustrations for this and thinking it seemed like a cute little concept, no idea it turned into...this.
"No, that wasn't the adorable baby bear we shot" - the RCMP, to the surprise of nobody
Wish I looked like Izzzyzzz. I've been inspired to begin experimenting with makeup
I remember seeing the original tumblr post after the 3 extra pictures were added- thought it was cute. Never knew it ended up becoming like this eventually.
I'm really glad you give the disclaimer at the end to not target and harass people involved in some of these situations. People make mistakes sometimes, especially when they're in over their head. I've been following lemonteaflower's work for years without ever knowing about this stuff and I can say she is nowhere near the person she's claimed to be in some of those comments.
This would've been just fine if this was an indie serialized webcomic from the get-go. No kickstarter needed, just do it for fun on your own time.
“This radiates a dark dark vibe” is WILD 😭😭😭
These deep dive videos are just wild, and the Petz Dogs 2 music in the background is just sending me into a state I’m not sure what is
Wait, I'm confused. I don't remember the Petz games having any music, other than from the music box toy??
@@BabyCharmander you’re definitely thinking Nintendogs, where you take care of a dog. Somehow, petz dogs 2 is not a simulation game, but an adventure game(?)
@@sailorstar.ch. N... no??? I'm definitely not thinking of Nintendogs?? I'm thinking of the Petz series, which is Dogz and Catz (1-5, I think--I have Catz 5 on my computer), which were pet sims. The pets were super cartoony and it had a REALLY in-depth breeding system. They're old games but have a pretty dedicated mod community, where people have put new species into the games, allowed you to crossbreed, etc. It's kindof amazing.
@@sailorstar.ch. ...okay looking this up, there seem to be two separate series of games with the same name, however that works. I guess that's where the confusion stems from here.
This had so much potential to be an actual show in my opinion. I would have watched it by the premise alone. Sadly it was not meant to be
Man, every time I see something like this from the kickstarters of tumblr, I remember that one johnlock series that still keeps getting updates but fell from a huge deal to just one person working on it in her spare time 7 years later.
ACAB includes miss officer