I’m actually pretty grateful because these lore videos only get you 50-150 views and you still upload for these 250 people... please don’t stop these videos I watch all of them because you are making a shortcut for us... because the intelligence data base is boring AF... so thanks for making these videos
Thanks for the kind words! And I'm glad you enjoy the videos. And yeah I'm hoping the videos give people easier access to the game's lore, as their is actually a good deal of it. Especially across the whole game series.
Cabal listened only to Kane and obeyed Only Him- without Kane there was no one to control it - This meant that if Kane told Cabal not to use The marked of Kane in order to keep them secret - the Cabal would still obey that command. The Cabal went roque not in spite of Kane - but due to lack of command input from him. Since Cabal was way more sophisticated than Eva - he would be able to see the resource flow within the brotherhood - this meant that keeping the marked of Kane from Cabal would be next to impossible - he would notice the resource drain, the manpower drain and the querries made to and from various data bases that would be needed to achieve progress on such a project. So i doubt Cabal didnt know about them. What is more probable - he either was directly forbbiden to interact with them - or he lacked something essential to their reactivation and control. - the second option is more probable if we assume that Cabal indeed went totally rouge - because if tha twas the case then he would use them and since he didnt - that meant he couldn't.
I had always thought that cabal had been the one to create the marked under direction of kane and that is why he went "rogue" to get as many subjects willing or otherwise as possible
Apologies for the random reply here, but, if you play close attention to the cutscene before the Awakening of The Marked of Kane mission, Kane explicitly says that, "The Marked were disconnected from CABAL's Main grid"
@@TheTiberianWolf That was also the reason why cabal wasnt aware of them and why he didnt use them himself. That said i find it highly suspicious that he didnt knew about them - he would see the NOD resources being diverted somewhere for some purpose and if anything he would be suspicious what that purpose was especially if the materials diverted were for cyborg construction in nature. or personel or scientists specialised in robotics/cybernetics
@krzosu Even LEGION didn't know about the Marked of Kane until after it reawakened in 2052 and Kane told it to activate them, and as we saw through the fear and concern that Alexa Kovaks had as she saw Legion awaken, there was a portion of CABAL's will and memory in LEGION, suggesting the two were very connected. I believe after Kane returned, he would have found what remained of CABAL's data core and used it to build LEGION, which would include what survived of CABAL's memory banks. If CABAL knew of the Marked of Kane, that data could pass to LEGION, unless Kane ordered otherwise or the data was lost. As for the data pertaining to resources used for the Marked of Kane development and storage, Kane could have completely severed that whole region from CABAL's network, preventing it from tracking resource usage that it wasn't even allowed to be aware of. If Kane told CABAL to ignore a region, it would listen, and it would have nothing to share to LEGION. But that's just a theory, and we don't have a real 4th C&C title to expand on that, so we'll just have to speculate.
@@krzosu Kane could of easily had a subtle "glitch" in Cabal's programming where it couldn't see anything related to the Marked nor could it reasonably conclude that the existence of MOK.
Cyborg Zombies... Kane tapped into making obidient cyborg zombies. There's nothing more creepier and scary than the lore of the Marked of Kane faction, whose stories is still shrouded in mysteries save for the archived files of from Nod. Kane's will be done.
Both cyborg Marked of Kane gave me the creeps, I just sent the ones already on the field, to a corner and never built new ones. I know I sounds childish, but for real, the creeped me out
I would like to do a video on the Forgotten. But I know NoStringsPrd has already done one on them. So I don't want to just repeat what was already said in that video.
The Marked of Kane is my most favorite Nod subfaction. My guess is why they didn't side with Cabal is likely Kane had to see if they won't rebel, so he kept others in reserve, just in case. It's good you didn't include those from Tiberian Twilight. That's not a true Tiberium story.
Its interesting to see how Kane was trying to create his own version of the Scrin. The Scrin were Bio-Macanical entities that used Tiberium as everything. The Marked of Kane were Full Mecanical entities that also use tiberium. The difference is there. And even more, the reason why the Scrin werent able to know more about Kane was because their Command didnt wanted to stay on earth and risk his own life for the Overlord. The Marked would stay on earth and fullfil the mission
Fun fact about the Awakened: They can also use the Particle Cannon that Black Hand (and what the Enlightened start with) have! The difficult part is acquiring it- needing to capture a BH tech center. This is easiest seen on the final mission of Kane’s Wrath.
I think cabal was attempting to activate the mark of Kane but simply ran out of time. The reason I say this is because at the end of firestorm and while nod celebrates it Victory you can see Kane in a stasis container trying to heal while the monitor above him begins talking with his and cabals voice as if trying to assimilate. Originally I thought Kane was actually cabal and was using him to enact his will but not reveal it to be himself cause if he failed (which cabal did) then nod would lose trust, faith and loyalty to Kane So to prevent this Kane used cabal to be his darker side without revealing it to his loyalist. However thanks to this video it gives me the theory that while Kane was healing cabal was trying to imitate Kane to not only use it against general slavik during the firestorm crisis (since nod was waiting for Kane and if he returned many would blindly accept it as him) but also bypass Kane's security to gain access and control to the mark of Kane while using the older cyborg models as a distraction from its primary goal but like it said at the nod ending of firestorm "my plans have premutated due to the union of gdi and nod....." meaning it wasn't expecting nod and gdi to team up so it gets you wondering if they didnt make the alliance then would cabal continue to rely on obsolete cyborgs to finish the mission or would he surprise both gdi and nod with an more advance army later on during the crisis?
Wasn't legion made with some of the same code used for CABAL. Which is why one of Kanes commanders Alexa infected Legion with a virus and oddly enough got a reply from Legion who sounded very much like CABAL even looked a bit like CABAL. Also Alexas family was wiped out or mostly wiped out by CABAL.
CABAL was the framework that LEIGON was built from, its why you see flashes of it. During his time in stasis Kane had to mentally “defeat” the AI to regain his own body again.
@@Ontinara Yet CABAL could still be like a ghost in the machine that is LEGION. Still I like CABAL way more and hate how EA just killed it off. It was the best Villain of command and conquer next to Kane.
@@burninghalls oh for real fighting him felt like humanity was on the back foot the whole time. Having him be a sleeper in LEGION would have been fun. Like if the Marked of Kane then betrayed from the inside on the final mission and as the overall commander you'd have to handle GDI and half your base against you.
The idea of these guys, humans turned into cyborgs who abandon their humanity in order to serve a religious order devoted to a human they view as a god, really reminds me of the Manei Domini who serve the Word of Blake in Battletech. Which I'm more than ok with since the Word of Blake is my favourite faction in Battletech!
11:16 I always thought Cabal was under Kane's control during this event all along. As we know at the end of the Firestorm Nod campaign we can see Kane connected to Cabal and it looks like he's controlling it to achieve something. Maybe his goal was to dispose of the members of the Inner Circle (it's a fact everytime his absence they only fight each others) and aquire more humans for expand his MOK army and maybe trying to summon the Scrin to Earth. But that is only my theory.
it was stated by kane in his diary that no he basicaly spent that entire time mentaly dueling cabal cabal jockeying off of many bodies to increase creative thinking and to increase cognitive ability
I like how well made these videos are, including going into gameplay details and not just out-of-game lore. And it's fantastic to hear so much use of the tiberian sun playlist!!
Although I'm not a native English speaker I really appreciate your writing, it is surely impressive. Once you'll find right theme - audience will be yours. Sub and like without a doubt. Great job, really!
Dear Kane, we would love to invite you to join the glorious galactic empire that is The Imperium of Man. You seem to have limitless knowledge on cyborg enhancements and ancient technology. -A happy Mechanicus Tech priest
@@ishitrealbad3039 the concept would still be used in servitors and skitarii though so it may in the end be useful. Might explain a lot of stuff though: Kane is a perpetual
My theory is that CABAL had always operated under Kane's command, even when it supposedly "went rogue". Its rebellion was probably just a distraction to let Kane create his personal army in complete secret since even his own men can betray him.
I think CABAL was attempting to enact Kane's secret plan for the Marked during Firestorm, as hinted at in the ending Nod cutscene. It was attempting to turn all the world- Nod and GDI alike into cyborgs. Into more Marked. But not understanding this was the will of Kane, the brotherhood resisted and joined forces with GDI to repel and defeat CABAL and unwittingly setting back Kane's plan by almost 20 years.
I still find it funny that main scientist who helped creating cyborgs for Nod is named Gero. Same surname of scientist in Dragonball series where he also created cyborgs (although called androids for some reason).
I think CABAL eventually would have reactivated the Marked, but simply didn't have the time or resources to spare getting the Marked reactivated due to the unexpected alliance of Nod and GDI. I think CABAL was operating much like the Scrin, a lot of diversionary operations to keep Nod and GDI on the backfoot but not having a tremendous amount of military power at his disposal.
I was thinking the same thing that cabal ran out of time but I also think he couldn't bypass kanes security systems (thus why at the end of firestorm storm you can see the monitor of cabal and Kane trying to merge as a means to trick the system however the union prevented its task from being completed) so that if cabal was ever compromised then he wouldn't have to worry about gdi or nod learning about his secret and try to either destroy the mark of Kane or use them for their own purpose. Honestly i don't think he ever expected the security system to hinder cabal and its genocide of humanity lol
me and my brother have a personal headcannon for the Marked of Kane that I would like to share here. But we do consider Ra1 to be connected to the Tiberium lore for it There is a good chance that the Marked of Kane are the final throws of old Soviet cyborg tech (potentially started under orders of Kane himself). Considering how the soviets actually had a cyborg super soldier Volkov and a cybernetically enhanced dog with him. However when the Allies tinkered with Volkov and made him go haywire, Kane probably lost trust in the tech for now, demanding them to be improved until he was happy with them (whichi is why they were used in Project Regenesis and later TS cyborgs). This is why they were stored in those areas under south east asia and russia. The Marked of Kane are nothing more than Cabal's final robotic army which never got used during the firestorm crisis but bolstered with modern (?) weapons In an unrelated note, I do wish the MoK Redeemer had more nods (get it XD ) to CABAL and the Core Defender
I still think the visuals and animations for the MOK look really silly. They look far too goofy when they are hopping around and less like the lumbering monstrosities of TS. That and the game-play of TibWars means that they die ridiculously fast.
That was the good thing about the cyborgs from Tib Sun. Granted the standard cyborg had pretty mediocre weaponry, but they were tough to get rid of in large numbers. I missed being able to heal the new ones in tiberium given how they were weaker than their predecessors. Still, it'#s good to see cyborgs make a return.
The in-game rendition of the awakened does drop the ball a bit, they don’t look nearly as intimidating as in the concept art. Nothing that some mods can’t fix tho
Face it, the aesthetics were just better in TibSun overall. The maps looked more apocalyptic and desolate, the units had more realistic designs despite employing futuristic weapons, and the animations of projectiles while simpler, had a lot more punch behind them and looked better. C&C3 on the other hand, had more pastoral maps, grossly exaggerated, cartoonish units, and silly animations. For design, let's compare the devil's tongue from the 2nd Tiberium War with the flame tank from the 3rd Tiberium War. The latter has two large, very conspicuous fuel tanks that are just begging to be shot at, and the whole thing looks like a vacuum cleaner. Its 2nd Tiberium War counterpart on the other hand is nightmare fuel. We only have to conjure the image of that poor GDI soldier being consumed by one in the trailer to convince ourselves. Now let's compare cyborgs. Cyborgs from the 2nd Tiberium War were terrifying. How we do know this? Well just look at 'em! Again, we can consult cut scenes in order to prove that our opinions are correct. Now let's turn to those of C&C3. What happened to their necks? Why are their heads so big? A normal human is 7.5 head lengths tall, whereas the Marked of Kane specimen featured at 9:19 is about 6.5 head lengths. Aren't they supposed to tower over normal soldiers? And since they use actual human bodies as their core, shouldn't they be 9 or 10 head lengths in height, if not more? Did Kane handpick those soldiers with the largest heads for his cybernetic research? Finally, why the hell do they swing their arms out to the sides when they run? Call it what you will, but it certainly doesn't invoke any of the dread of 2nd Tiberium War cyborgs. C&C3 is what you get when you have a larger budget, better specs, but less talent and creativity on the part of the developers.
Honestly, one of my favourite sub faction. Marked of Kaine units are basically really great, awakaned and enlightened can be terrifying if messed with but my most favourite is the Viper Gunships with laser upgrades. Cause holy hell they are broken.
I was always under the idea that CABAL was the lead creator of the army, after the joint attack by NOD and GDI and the destruction of his larger Tiberium field harvesting and cyborg factories units too far away from the combat where put into “cells” as to not let them fall as fail safe, only then awoken by Kane years later.
Regarding your question about why didnt Cabal use cyborgs which Legion later used. I think those were actually made after cabals rebellion. First, design and arsenal is completely different, there are no sleeper cyborg agents during tw2 and cabals rebellion either (atleast known to me). There are no signs of obsolescence like in literally every piece of weaponry from tw1 and 2. You said Kane kept research hidden because some parts of Nod would object but that doesnt make sense after tw1 since during tw2 Nod was widely using cyborgs, i think that part refers to time after cabals destruction since people got first hand experience with cyborgs killing everybody. Nod cyborg research came from labs in Russia and east asia, but since we are talking about huge area here, it doesnt mean that first cyborgs came from same place as those that legion wakes up.
Sorry for the incoming long comment. So originally I did believe exactly what you said about the MoK being developed after cabal's rebellion. But the intelligence data base entry regarding the MoK implies that that was not the case. I would read that whole entry, but specifically there is this last paragraph which says: "The path was long and arduous, and outside of a few promising developments - the most notable being the cyborg armies of CABAL - far from successful. Eventually, the Second Tiberium War drew to a close, the Marked of Kane finally near completion. However, it was too late to save Nod and the Marked of Kane were left to slumber deep beneath the Earth, awaiting their master's call..." This seems to imply that they were in development during TW2 and were very close to completion but it was too late for NoD to make use of them since Kane had been wounded by McNeil and put into stasis, which put Slavik in charge who, along with other members of the Inner Circle, did not seem to know about the existence of the MoK specifically. Obviously they new about the generic cyborgs that they used but the MoK were apparently separate from those. The only other entity besides Kane who could have known about their existence would have been CABAL who was hooked up to almost all of Nod's computer systems. Though I guess it's possible Kane could have also kept the MoK's existence disconnected from CABAL's systems as well.
@@Jethild I think if Kane was smart enough he would of kept the MOK project secret from CABAL. Kane has done things like this before in the past. He kept information from Alexa and Killian as well as others he didn't fully trust. I wonder if he thought CABAL might of been changed by the tacitus. He still needed Tratos and CABAL and himself and possibly his top scientist to translate it. The tacitus might of only contained information but its best to be on the safe side if your interfacing a machine with something that might have some possible virus on it. Slavik also had to capture a functional EVA unit and have it reprogrammed so if Kane was worried about CABAL somehow becoming changed or reprogrammed that would make sense. It's odd that in Firestorm CABAL requires the Tacitus which Kane requires to learn how to get the Scrin to come to earth. I wonder if CABAL was infected with some virus which made him want to exterminate all human life and replace it with his army that he can control. There is still not enough known about the Tacitus and who made it. If there was some other ancient society or other alien race that were the rival of the Scrin then they would do anything to stop the Scrin destroying life on planets and replacing it with teberium based life. If the Tacitus is Scrin then they would want it back in their hands or away from Kane or CABAL or GDI as they only want to go to planets are Tiberium has done the job killing off all life, then you can just harvest forever in peace with next to no resistance.
I think that Kane didn't really trust anyone with the marked of Kane. After all Legion wasn't informed of them till he was reawakened. Till then the AI had to make due with normal forces for its missions even though the marked were done and ready for use.
who knows maybe the firestorm event was Kanes will, Kanes plan to remove NOD leaders that would only leave NOD fractured thru infighting. Kind aa operation clean house.
My theory as to why CABAL didn't use the Marked was because, compared to the standard cyborgs it already had, they were obsolete in some ways (possibly not as resilient, didn't regenerate on tiberium, etc). Maybe during that time, most of the weapons technology employed by the Marked had been experimental and not cost-effective. In such cases, it was likely CABAL kept the Marked of Kane in storage as backup (like some nations with modern tanks still have Cold War-era tanks sitting in storage for an emergency), and couldn't use them in time due to their distance from the Core, once it was assaulted by GDI and NOD.
I think there's another possibility, CABAL seized control of the Cyborg Corps directly while LEGION had to go directly to Russia and reactivate the Marked, it could just be that the Marked weren't networked and CABAL didn't want to waste the time or resources to bring them online and network the units whether because of arrogance or because CABAL was too busy with Nod and GDI in the war to spare the "manpower."
@@lordfrostwind3151 Your theory makes more sense. Could even tie a bit with the cost-effectiveness/obsolescence one. Or that CABAL just saw them as redundant at that point - it (or Kane... or both) didn't foresee NOD and GDI allying to take CABAL down.
Hm, I'm not sure I classify the MoK as obsolete compared to their prototypes in TW2 and Firestorm. While they may not be able regenerate on tib fields, they are significantly faster than the lumbering machines during the second war and are equipped with EMP cannons. Considering how effective the Reaper was with just simple nets to capture infantry, cyborgs with emp to shut down tanks alongside them would have been a huge bonus for CABAL. Holding onto those as back up as NOD and GDI got *near* his core and then never using them doesn't seem likely. As for cost-effectiveness....in CABAL's army, there's not really an 'economy' to speak of as there is only one will. The only thing that would limit CABAL would be resources, but considering how much he could have salvaged from GDI and NOD during the beginning and middle of his insurrection, he probably could have made due easily enough. Nah, the only two reasons CABAL wouldn't have activated the MoK was, as you said, perhaps arrogance or he didn't know about them.
Honestly, it sounds like some of these cyborgs rely on robotics for mobility, decision making and combat. Like, if the human part isn't in there to provide direction, comprehension and thought, what's it there for? Might as well use robots under the direct remote control of Legion.
Awakened can also have their machine guns replaced with Black Hand charged particle beams, if you capture a Black Hand technology center. Also, GDI made use of cybernetics in one instance: the Firehawk's on-board computer had a "limited man-machine interface". By C&C4, cybernetics have become pretty much common place once again: cyborg gunners on aerial units like the Basilisk, the new generations of Enlightened, the Engineers, the next generation Cybernetic Commando, et cetera. Looks like CABAL's impact was a temporary one.
@@Darqshadow Oh, I know. :) The joke on the subreddit that C&C4 doesn't exist has been going on for 12+ years now. C&C4 was an awful game, but it had some interesting ideas and concepts that could be reused for other things e.g. a C&C3 mod (which is why we see mods with C&C4 units in them). The game itself? Garbage. The storyline? Garbage. The units and concepts plagued by poor execution? Salvageable. Heck, even the Crawler System could be used, if they were MCV enhancements (e.g. adding advantages and disadvantages, such as wheels being faster on flat terrain, aerial being weaker in HP and armour, and legs on rough terrain/cliffs).
I don’t know if someone else already mentioned this. But yes CABAL was left unaware to the existence of the marked of Kane. I’m pretty sure Kane said in a cutscene that the army was left off the brotherhood database hence why CABAL never knew about them.
Wait a moment, Cyborg warriors, Dr. Gero... Is there some third source material that Dragonball Z and C&C are both referring to? Is C&C referencing DBZ? Idk.
"From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine"
As neat as these guys are, I don't get something. If these guys are so far removed from their humanity as to be emotionless robots, _why didn't they just use robots instead?_ Why go through the trouble of creating cyborgs? I'm probably asking the wrong questions here though, since this is the Command & Conquer universe we're talking about.
Just a guess, but they may have been used for propaganda purpose. At some point, Nod realized that a robot face made it harder to get denizens of Red and Yellow Zones into thinking Nod actually cared about them and ultimately joining the Brotherhood than a human face even though both bodies were just as souless.
I don't know if there's a lore explanation, but there are many reasons I can think of, for one having an abomination of flesh and metal can be scary asf (just look at the awakened concept art or the Firestorm Reapers' cinematics), so *psychological warfare*, specially if they are mutant-humans (like the ones from Project ReGenesis or the ones from TibSun) or dead ones (the Marked of Kane, probably the Reapers as there's a cut cinematic where there's one with a human skull and no flesh). You also have the problem of the AI's, despite how advanced EVA is, it's still pretty basic compared with CABAL (who used both robotic components and literally human minds/brains), so there's probably some problems with machine/software-only units, or maybe they aren't as clever/tactical as the cyborgs and the controlled-drone units (like the "Mantis")
Their human minds certainly retained some memory of the Nod religion. Pairing that with the AI/biological interface, and you had a soldier that literally believed in the input code received. Fear was stripped away. Certain biological functions no longer impeded their efforts. Essentially, they were terminators derived from a prior living soul and iron framework.
I know this is an old video and probably covered by now, but I think the reason is that Kane was linked with Cabal at parts along with other people but his cyborg initiative is likely exactly what cabal did but without Kane's forethought and his full understanding, the "rebellion" was likely a fall back plan should the leaders of Nod prove to troublesome for Kane at some point, a built in failsafe, but Cabal saw the in fighting and the betrayals as the things to set the protocols into motion, Cabal did not rebel against Kane, he rebelled against the incompetent leaders left behind, every single time Kane leaves, the toddlers destroy everything.
If a proper C&C sequel was made, and CABAL returned as a playable faction, it would be interesting if Slavik too returned from the dead as a cyborg commander under CABAL.
not sure about what you said about tib troopers- judging by their voice and how they look they're probably cyborgs but they're probably less augmented and probably have free will unlike awakened and enlightened.
funny thing if you foolow the in universe lore Legion is not just a new AI he is infact the first one built before KABAL one that was made to fully merge with the Alien tech and only loyal to Kane the issue was that when merged with the person it needed time to fully merge with them it needed to learn so the commander you play as in the games as nod is legion in that you are both human and AI merged into one this allows you to both remain loyal to Kane when KABAL takes over the other AI and also allows you to live for so long your the greatest Achivement made in Kanes AI research
KABAl knew about them but was unable to control them as they were not linked to his system and where they were was known only to Kane and a few trusted people no one else even knew about them they were already to be deployed when the other AI legion was able to be fully deployed this led to them being unable to be used by Kabal
I was actually just quoting what Kane says at the start of the Kane's Challenge game mode that was in Kane's Wrath. Unfortunately, that game mode was only available on the console versions.
@@JethildVery well keep up the good work brother. P.S. I just found your channel and I do enjoy your C&C content. Hope you get around to talking about mutants and Tiberian-creatures some day.
My first cnc game was cnc 4 and i really like it but now I see these deep lore understand why that was so underrated by fans. It really be good if someone explain more about cnc4 and why fans don't accept that as cnc game.
Short story Command & Conquer 4 isent Command & Conquer. First of Command & Conquer needs three things base building, resource gathering and no unit cap. C&C4 have no base building no resourse gathering and a unit cap of 50
This is yet a big plot hole that makes the Marked of Kane's existence very questionable. CABAL and Kane shared their knowledge, what Kane knew, CABAL knew as well. So it's impossible that he wouldn't have known about the Marked. It was just an addition for the sake of another sub-faction for Kane's wrath, which is unfortunate because I actually do like the idea, it begs the question, why even make use of the corpses of the fallen if the whole point is not have human emotions? Why not just make machines that are 100% fully obedient to Kane's will only?
Ofcourse Cabal knew of the marked of Kane he helped make them. Tho they werent to be used intill the right time was at hand. What Cabal used was the already existing and in used cyborg units with no higher purpose.
What do you mean by Kane kept it a secret from his own brother ... He doesn't have a brother and even if we go by the biblical derivation, Abel is long dead
Interesting. But despite their history with cyborgs and CABAL, NOD still use tons of cyborg during the ascension conflict. I mean, all will consider it not a cannon but too me, the units and their lore in C&C4 quite interesting.
I just love finding somebody who loves the Command and Conquer lore on here.
High respect to the AI who defended us against the devourer
Peace through power
Jeffery Epstein didn’t kill himself
As someone who's discord profile pic is the symbol of the Marked of Kane, hard same
@@poemanx7297 free derek chauvin
There is only one reason to use the Marked of Kane over everything else...
Superior design
there is only one reason nod ends up having more advanced technology than GDI at all
fan service
In the words of CABAL,
"THE HUMAN ELEMENT, AS ALWAYS, IS RIDDLED WITH IMPERFECTION."
Only thing I don't like about the marked of Kane is their lack of flammenwerfers
@@xGoodOldSmurfehx Also literal obsession with tiebrium, the ascension of the human race, and aliens.
@@phantomwraith1984 maybe, but their use of EMP, and particle beams is 👌
I am enlightened
I’m actually pretty grateful because these lore videos only get you 50-150 views and you still upload for these 250 people... please don’t stop these videos I watch all of them because you are making a shortcut for us... because the intelligence data base is boring AF... so thanks for making these videos
I like the videos too and the Scrin has 1.2k views!
Someone posted the Scrin on Reddit so that probably helped the views.
L Coop oh thats why thx for this info since I don’t reddit
Thanks for the kind words! And I'm glad you enjoy the videos. And yeah I'm hoping the videos give people easier access to the game's lore, as their is actually a good deal of it. Especially across the whole game series.
These will pop up in the future. Just wait.
Cabal listened only to Kane and obeyed Only Him- without Kane there was no one to control it - This meant that if Kane told Cabal not to use The marked of Kane in order to keep them secret - the Cabal would still obey that command. The Cabal went roque not in spite of Kane - but due to lack of command input from him.
Since Cabal was way more sophisticated than Eva - he would be able to see the resource flow within the brotherhood - this meant that keeping the marked of Kane from Cabal would be next to impossible - he would notice the resource drain, the manpower drain and the querries made to and from various data bases that would be needed to achieve progress on such a project. So i doubt Cabal didnt know about them. What is more probable - he either was directly forbbiden to interact with them - or he lacked something essential to their reactivation and control. - the second option is more probable if we assume that Cabal indeed went totally rouge - because if tha twas the case then he would use them and since he didnt - that meant he couldn't.
I had always thought that cabal had been the one to create the marked under direction of kane and that is why he went "rogue" to get as many subjects willing or otherwise as possible
Apologies for the random reply here, but, if you play close attention to the cutscene before the Awakening of The Marked of Kane mission, Kane explicitly says that, "The Marked were disconnected from CABAL's Main grid"
@@TheTiberianWolf That was also the reason why cabal wasnt aware of them and why he didnt use them himself. That said i find it highly suspicious that he didnt knew about them - he would see the NOD resources being diverted somewhere for some purpose and if anything he would be suspicious what that purpose was especially if the materials diverted were for cyborg construction in nature. or personel or scientists specialised in robotics/cybernetics
@krzosu Even LEGION didn't know about the Marked of Kane until after it reawakened in 2052 and Kane told it to activate them, and as we saw through the fear and concern that Alexa Kovaks had as she saw Legion awaken, there was a portion of CABAL's will and memory in LEGION, suggesting the two were very connected. I believe after Kane returned, he would have found what remained of CABAL's data core and used it to build LEGION, which would include what survived of CABAL's memory banks. If CABAL knew of the Marked of Kane, that data could pass to LEGION, unless Kane ordered otherwise or the data was lost.
As for the data pertaining to resources used for the Marked of Kane development and storage, Kane could have completely severed that whole region from CABAL's network, preventing it from tracking resource usage that it wasn't even allowed to be aware of. If Kane told CABAL to ignore a region, it would listen, and it would have nothing to share to LEGION. But that's just a theory, and we don't have a real 4th C&C title to expand on that, so we'll just have to speculate.
@@krzosu Kane could of easily had a subtle "glitch" in Cabal's programming where it couldn't see anything related to the Marked nor could it reasonably conclude that the existence of MOK.
Cyborg Zombies... Kane tapped into making obidient cyborg zombies. There's nothing more creepier and scary than the lore of the Marked of Kane faction, whose stories is still shrouded in mysteries save for the archived files of from Nod.
Kane's will be done.
OUR LIVES FOR KANE!
KANE LIVES IN DEATH! THE TECHNOLOGY OF PEACE!
PEACE. THROUGH. POWER!
IN THE NAME OF KANE!
DOWN WITH GDI
@@chadgrenadier6713 Yes!
Both cyborg Marked of Kane gave me the creeps, I just sent the ones already on the field, to a corner and never built new ones. I know I sounds childish, but for real, the creeped me out
Do one of these for The Forgotten. I know they arent a major faction, but they are interesting
I would like to do a video on the Forgotten. But I know NoStringsPrd has already done one on them. So I don't want to just repeat what was already said in that video.
@@Jethild
Maybe do about Forgotten, but add also info about them from mods Tiberium Essence and Forgotten mod as trivia or something? ;)
@@Jethild the 9 dislikes are clearly GDI spies
Clearly
Just read the wiki
The Marked of Kane is my most favorite Nod subfaction.
My guess is why they didn't side with Cabal is likely Kane had to see if they won't rebel, so he kept others in reserve, just in case.
It's good you didn't include those from Tiberian Twilight. That's not a true Tiberium story.
The marked of Kane when giving life for kane once just isn't enough
Its interesting to see how Kane was trying to create his own version of the Scrin. The Scrin were Bio-Macanical entities that used Tiberium as everything.
The Marked of Kane were Full Mecanical entities that also use tiberium. The difference is there. And even more, the reason why the Scrin werent able to know more about Kane was because their Command didnt wanted to stay on earth and risk his own life for the Overlord. The Marked would stay on earth and fullfil the mission
Also for some reason Awakened squads in game take tiberium exposure damage and I assume the Enlightened suffer from this issue too.
@@GokuOffersYouAPotara I mean the awakened still have remnants of flesh, so I’d assume that’s why
A real Tiberium sequel would definitely fuse Nod and Scrin tech together which is terrifying to think about.
@@GokuOffersYouAPotarathe enlightened don't
Fun fact about the Awakened:
They can also use the Particle Cannon that Black Hand (and what the Enlightened start with) have! The difficult part is acquiring it- needing to capture a BH tech center.
This is easiest seen on the final mission of Kane’s Wrath.
I think cabal was attempting to activate the mark of Kane but simply ran out of time.
The reason I say this is because at the end of firestorm and while nod celebrates it Victory you can see Kane in a stasis container trying to heal while the monitor above him begins talking with his and cabals voice as if trying to assimilate.
Originally I thought Kane was actually cabal and was using him to enact his will but not reveal it to be himself cause if he failed (which cabal did) then nod would lose trust, faith and loyalty to Kane
So to prevent this Kane used cabal to be his darker side without revealing it to his loyalist.
However thanks to this video it gives me the theory that while Kane was healing cabal was trying to imitate Kane to not only use it against general slavik during the firestorm crisis (since nod was waiting for Kane and if he returned many would blindly accept it as him) but also bypass Kane's security to gain access and control to the mark of Kane while using the older cyborg models as a distraction from its primary goal but like it said at the nod ending of firestorm "my plans have premutated due to the union of gdi and nod....." meaning it wasn't expecting nod and gdi to team up so it gets you wondering if they didnt make the alliance then would cabal continue to rely on obsolete cyborgs to finish the mission or would he surprise both gdi and nod with an more advance army later on during the crisis?
Wasn't legion made with some of the same code used for CABAL. Which is why one of Kanes commanders Alexa infected Legion with a virus and oddly enough got a reply from Legion who sounded very much like CABAL even looked a bit like CABAL. Also Alexas family was wiped out or mostly wiped out by CABAL.
CABAL was the framework that LEIGON was built from, its why you see flashes of it. During his time in stasis Kane had to mentally “defeat” the AI to regain his own body again.
@@Ontinara Yet CABAL could still be like a ghost in the machine that is LEGION. Still I like CABAL way more and hate how EA just killed it off. It was the best Villain of command and conquer next to Kane.
@@burninghalls oh for real fighting him felt like humanity was on the back foot the whole time. Having him be a sleeper in LEGION would have been fun. Like if the Marked of Kane then betrayed from the inside on the final mission and as the overall commander you'd have to handle GDI and half your base against you.
The idea of these guys, humans turned into cyborgs who abandon their humanity in order to serve a religious order devoted to a human they view as a god, really reminds me of the Manei Domini who serve the Word of Blake in Battletech.
Which I'm more than ok with since the Word of Blake is my favourite faction in Battletech!
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I always thought Cabal was under Kane's control during this event all along.
As we know at the end of the Firestorm Nod campaign we can see Kane connected to Cabal and it looks like he's controlling it to achieve something.
Maybe his goal was to dispose of the members of the Inner Circle (it's a fact everytime his absence they only fight each others) and aquire more humans for expand his MOK army and maybe trying to summon the Scrin to Earth.
But that is only my theory.
it was stated by kane in his diary that no he basicaly spent that entire time mentaly dueling cabal cabal jockeying off of many bodies to increase creative thinking and to increase cognitive ability
I like how well made these videos are, including going into gameplay details and not just out-of-game lore. And it's fantastic to hear so much use of the tiberian sun playlist!!
Although I'm not a native English speaker I really appreciate your writing, it is surely impressive. Once you'll find right theme - audience will be yours. Sub and like without a doubt. Great job, really!
One Vision, One Purpose. Kane lives.
Also, keep up the good work.
Dear Kane, we would love to invite you to join the glorious galactic empire that is The Imperium of Man. You seem to have limitless knowledge on cyborg enhancements and ancient technology.
-A happy Mechanicus Tech priest
And the Imperium could use Tiberium
However they risk to be purged and dismantled as soon as the adeptus mechanicus learns they are attatched and controlled by an AI
You seem to forget that the Imperium of Man and Mechanicus are highly highly sceptical of AI....
@@ishitrealbad3039 the concept would still be used in servitors and skitarii though so it may in the end be useful. Might explain a lot of stuff though: Kane is a perpetual
Was looking for this comment. Omnissiah bless.
I just want to say thank you for making these videos! They are amazing! I love the lore of the Tiberium Universe, such a fascinating one.
If you use a saboteur and hijack a black hand shrine or tech center I think you can get particle beams for the awakened as well.
Command & Conquer + Jethild = Marked for Watching. Great video on C&C lore, always waiting for the next one.
My theory is that CABAL had always operated under Kane's command, even when it supposedly "went rogue". Its rebellion was probably just a distraction to let Kane create his personal army in complete secret since even his own men can betray him.
I think CABAL was attempting to enact Kane's secret plan for the Marked during Firestorm, as hinted at in the ending Nod cutscene. It was attempting to turn all the world- Nod and GDI alike into cyborgs. Into more Marked. But not understanding this was the will of Kane, the brotherhood resisted and joined forces with GDI to repel and defeat CABAL and unwittingly setting back Kane's plan by almost 20 years.
I still find it funny that main scientist who helped creating cyborgs for Nod is named Gero. Same surname of scientist in Dragonball series where he also created cyborgs (although called androids for some reason).
I think CABAL eventually would have reactivated the Marked, but simply didn't have the time or resources to spare getting the Marked reactivated due to the unexpected alliance of Nod and GDI. I think CABAL was operating much like the Scrin, a lot of diversionary operations to keep Nod and GDI on the backfoot but not having a tremendous amount of military power at his disposal.
I was thinking the same thing that cabal ran out of time but I also think he couldn't bypass kanes security systems (thus why at the end of firestorm storm you can see the monitor of cabal and Kane trying to merge as a means to trick the system however the union prevented its task from being completed) so that if cabal was ever compromised then he wouldn't have to worry about gdi or nod learning about his secret and try to either destroy the mark of Kane or use them for their own purpose. Honestly i don't think he ever expected the security system to hinder cabal and its genocide of humanity lol
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me and my brother have a personal headcannon for the Marked of Kane that I would like to share here. But we do consider Ra1 to be connected to the Tiberium lore for it
There is a good chance that the Marked of Kane are the final throws of old Soviet cyborg tech (potentially started under orders of Kane himself). Considering how the soviets actually had a cyborg super soldier Volkov and a cybernetically enhanced dog with him. However when the Allies tinkered with Volkov and made him go haywire, Kane probably lost trust in the tech for now, demanding them to be improved until he was happy with them (whichi is why they were used in Project Regenesis and later TS cyborgs). This is why they were stored in those areas under south east asia and russia. The Marked of Kane are nothing more than Cabal's final robotic army which never got used during the firestorm crisis but bolstered with modern (?) weapons
In an unrelated note, I do wish the MoK Redeemer had more nods (get it XD ) to CABAL and the Core Defender
Ra1 is connected
I still think the visuals and animations for the MOK look really silly. They look far too goofy when they are hopping around and less like the lumbering monstrosities of TS. That and the game-play of TibWars means that they die ridiculously fast.
That was the good thing about the cyborgs from Tib Sun. Granted the standard cyborg had pretty mediocre weaponry, but they were tough to get rid of in large numbers. I missed being able to heal the new ones in tiberium given how they were weaker than their predecessors. Still, it'#s good to see cyborgs make a return.
The in-game rendition of the awakened does drop the ball a bit, they don’t look nearly as intimidating as in the concept art. Nothing that some mods can’t fix tho
@@soulgamer612 the cover art awakened is so much cooler than the shity in game version and the concept art version
@@bernholtz1 yeah I meant that version. A shame it didn’t translate in-game
Face it, the aesthetics were just better in TibSun overall. The maps looked more apocalyptic and desolate, the units had more realistic designs despite employing futuristic weapons, and the animations of projectiles while simpler, had a lot more punch behind them and looked better. C&C3 on the other hand, had more pastoral maps, grossly exaggerated, cartoonish units, and silly animations. For design, let's compare the devil's tongue from the 2nd Tiberium War with the flame tank from the 3rd Tiberium War. The latter has two large, very conspicuous fuel tanks that are just begging to be shot at, and the whole thing looks like a vacuum cleaner. Its 2nd Tiberium War counterpart on the other hand is nightmare fuel. We only have to conjure the image of that poor GDI soldier being consumed by one in the trailer to convince ourselves. Now let's compare cyborgs. Cyborgs from the 2nd Tiberium War were terrifying. How we do know this? Well just look at 'em! Again, we can consult cut scenes in order to prove that our opinions are correct. Now let's turn to those of C&C3. What happened to their necks? Why are their heads so big? A normal human is 7.5 head lengths tall, whereas the Marked of Kane specimen featured at 9:19 is about 6.5 head lengths. Aren't they supposed to tower over normal soldiers? And since they use actual human bodies as their core, shouldn't they be 9 or 10 head lengths in height, if not more? Did Kane handpick those soldiers with the largest heads for his cybernetic research? Finally, why the hell do they swing their arms out to the sides when they run? Call it what you will, but it certainly doesn't invoke any of the dread of 2nd Tiberium War cyborgs. C&C3 is what you get when you have a larger budget, better specs, but less talent and creativity on the part of the developers.
This is an amazing video, Thank you for the great uploads. You've gained a subscriber
Honestly, one of my favourite sub faction. Marked of Kaine units are basically really great, awakaned and enlightened can be terrifying if messed with but my most favourite is the Viper Gunships with laser upgrades. Cause holy hell they are broken.
I was always under the idea that CABAL was the lead creator of the army, after the joint attack by NOD and GDI and the destruction of his larger Tiberium field harvesting and cyborg factories units too far away from the combat where put into “cells” as to not let them fall as fail safe, only then awoken by Kane years later.
I am impress someone doing command and conquer lore great story telling
Cyborgs are cool and scary at the same time!
Regarding your question about why didnt Cabal use cyborgs which Legion later used.
I think those were actually made after cabals rebellion.
First, design and arsenal is completely different, there are no sleeper cyborg agents during tw2 and cabals rebellion either (atleast known to me). There are no signs of obsolescence like in literally every piece of weaponry from tw1 and 2.
You said Kane kept research hidden because some parts of Nod would object but that doesnt make sense after tw1 since during tw2 Nod was widely using cyborgs, i think that part refers to time after cabals destruction since people got first hand experience with cyborgs killing everybody. Nod cyborg research came from labs in Russia and east asia, but since we are talking about huge area here, it doesnt mean that first cyborgs came from same place as those that legion wakes up.
Sorry for the incoming long comment.
So originally I did believe exactly what you said about the MoK being developed after cabal's rebellion. But the intelligence data base entry regarding the MoK implies that that was not the case. I would read that whole entry, but specifically there is this last paragraph which says:
"The path was long and arduous, and outside of a few promising developments - the most notable being the cyborg armies of CABAL - far from successful. Eventually, the Second Tiberium War drew to a close, the Marked of Kane finally near completion. However, it was too late to save Nod and the Marked of Kane were left to slumber deep beneath the Earth, awaiting their master's call..."
This seems to imply that they were in development during TW2 and were very close to completion but it was too late for NoD to make use of them since Kane had been wounded by McNeil and put into stasis, which put Slavik in charge who, along with other members of the Inner Circle, did not seem to know about the existence of the MoK specifically. Obviously they new about the generic cyborgs that they used but the MoK were apparently separate from those. The only other entity besides Kane who could have known about their existence would have been CABAL who was hooked up to almost all of Nod's computer systems. Though I guess it's possible Kane could have also kept the MoK's existence disconnected from CABAL's systems as well.
@@Jethild That bit of intel makes it clear, thanks.
@@Jethild I think if Kane was smart enough he would of kept the MOK project secret from CABAL. Kane has done things like this before in the past. He kept information from Alexa and Killian as well as others he didn't fully trust. I wonder if he thought CABAL might of been changed by the tacitus. He still needed Tratos and CABAL and himself and possibly his top scientist to translate it. The tacitus might of only contained information but its best to be on the safe side if your interfacing a machine with something that might have some possible virus on it. Slavik also had to capture a functional EVA unit and have it reprogrammed so if Kane was worried about CABAL somehow becoming changed or reprogrammed that would make sense. It's odd that in Firestorm CABAL requires the Tacitus which Kane requires to learn how to get the Scrin to come to earth. I wonder if CABAL was infected with some virus which made him want to exterminate all human life and replace it with his army that he can control. There is still not enough known about the Tacitus and who made it. If there was some other ancient society or other alien race that were the rival of the Scrin then they would do anything to stop the Scrin destroying life on planets and replacing it with teberium based life. If the Tacitus is Scrin then they would want it back in their hands or away from Kane or CABAL or GDI as they only want to go to planets are Tiberium has done the job killing off all life, then you can just harvest forever in peace with next to no resistance.
I think that Kane didn't really trust anyone with the marked of Kane. After all Legion wasn't informed of them till he was reawakened. Till then the AI had to make due with normal forces for its missions even though the marked were done and ready for use.
We also must remember Kane intended to lose the 3rd war. Revealing hid trjmp card would only lead to it's destruction.
who knows maybe the firestorm event was Kanes will, Kanes plan to remove NOD leaders that would only leave NOD fractured thru infighting. Kind aa operation clean house.
Behold, for i shall open the vaults and cause them to arise onto the land and they shall be legion.
One of the best game music of the classic games and one of first game i play from us
“Untouched, the Marked of Kane are an empty shell. Silicon and Synapse encased in a soulless void,”
Still, more than what can be said for GDI
What did you just say about me you lil shit?
Burned more than Australia when Steel Talons failed to stop the Black Hand from detonating their liquid T-bomb.
*laughs in Juggernaut* you were saying?
@@vitaliitomas8121 *laughs in liquid Tiberium explosion that covered a third of the planet*
Which GDI set off.
@@xshullaw You mean Boyle, not GDI. The general himself was not in favor of that, but alas, power has it's place.
My theory as to why CABAL didn't use the Marked was because, compared to the standard cyborgs it already had, they were obsolete in some ways (possibly not as resilient, didn't regenerate on tiberium, etc). Maybe during that time, most of the weapons technology employed by the Marked had been experimental and not cost-effective.
In such cases, it was likely CABAL kept the Marked of Kane in storage as backup (like some nations with modern tanks still have Cold War-era tanks sitting in storage for an emergency), and couldn't use them in time due to their distance from the Core, once it was assaulted by GDI and NOD.
I think there's another possibility, CABAL seized control of the Cyborg Corps directly while LEGION had to go directly to Russia and reactivate the Marked, it could just be that the Marked weren't networked and CABAL didn't want to waste the time or resources to bring them online and network the units whether because of arrogance or because CABAL was too busy with Nod and GDI in the war to spare the "manpower."
@@lordfrostwind3151 Your theory makes more sense. Could even tie a bit with the cost-effectiveness/obsolescence one. Or that CABAL just saw them as redundant at that point - it (or Kane... or both) didn't foresee NOD and GDI allying to take CABAL down.
Hm, I'm not sure I classify the MoK as obsolete compared to their prototypes in TW2 and Firestorm. While they may not be able regenerate on tib fields, they are significantly faster than the lumbering machines during the second war and are equipped with EMP cannons. Considering how effective the Reaper was with just simple nets to capture infantry, cyborgs with emp to shut down tanks alongside them would have been a huge bonus for CABAL. Holding onto those as back up as NOD and GDI got *near* his core and then never using them doesn't seem likely.
As for cost-effectiveness....in CABAL's army, there's not really an 'economy' to speak of as there is only one will. The only thing that would limit CABAL would be resources, but considering how much he could have salvaged from GDI and NOD during the beginning and middle of his insurrection, he probably could have made due easily enough.
Nah, the only two reasons CABAL wouldn't have activated the MoK was, as you said, perhaps arrogance or he didn't know about them.
Honestly, it sounds like some of these cyborgs rely on robotics for mobility, decision making and combat. Like, if the human part isn't in there to provide direction, comprehension and thought, what's it there for? Might as well use robots under the direct remote control of Legion.
Thanks for the video!! :)
Well done! Love your channel
This is amazing nice video
Awakened can also have their machine guns replaced with Black Hand charged particle beams, if you capture a Black Hand technology center.
Also, GDI made use of cybernetics in one instance: the Firehawk's on-board computer had a "limited man-machine interface".
By C&C4, cybernetics have become pretty much common place once again: cyborg gunners on aerial units like the Basilisk, the new generations of Enlightened, the Engineers, the next generation Cybernetic Commando, et cetera.
Looks like CABAL's impact was a temporary one.
Most of the Fandom doesn't count CnC 4 as Canon since it doesn't mesh well at all with the existing timeline
@@Darqshadow Oh, I know. :) The joke on the subreddit that C&C4 doesn't exist has been going on for 12+ years now.
C&C4 was an awful game, but it had some interesting ideas and concepts that could be reused for other things e.g. a C&C3 mod (which is why we see mods with C&C4 units in them).
The game itself? Garbage. The storyline? Garbage. The units and concepts plagued by poor execution? Salvageable.
Heck, even the Crawler System could be used, if they were MCV enhancements (e.g. adding advantages and disadvantages, such as wheels being faster on flat terrain, aerial being weaker in HP and armour, and legs on rough terrain/cliffs).
you & no strings prd are doing god’s work
I don’t know if someone else already mentioned this. But yes CABAL was left unaware to the existence of the marked of Kane. I’m pretty sure Kane said in a cutscene that the army was left off the brotherhood database hence why CABAL never knew about them.
Wait a moment, Cyborg warriors, Dr. Gero... Is there some third source material that Dragonball Z and C&C are both referring to? Is C&C referencing DBZ? Idk.
You are right. I don't why I never noticed this. So if in Nod are dr. Gero and cyborgs, there also should be the ultimate Nod cyborg like Cell xD
No wtf are you saying it's just a coincidence
You make the kind of videos I wanna binge.
I mean the black hand dosent even mind going to a suicide mission to destroy so much of the enemy buildings
How have I just found you're vids
Awesome intro to the video
Been binging your videos to "catch up" on the lore I missed out on haha. Keep up the great work
You can just read the wiki too. Hes saying the exact same thing.
Awesome video, could you make one on the Forgotten?
I’d like to see a Forgotten one too.
Cyborgs and a "Dr. Gero" now where have I heard that before... cough cough DBZ cough cough...
Awesome!
Entirely mood appropriate for Killing Machine from the Firestorm soundtrack to be the opening and closing theme of an MOK feature!
so basically Marked of Cain: THE FLESH IS WEAK!
"From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine"
So much lore!!
As neat as these guys are, I don't get something. If these guys are so far removed from their humanity as to be emotionless robots, _why didn't they just use robots instead?_ Why go through the trouble of creating cyborgs?
I'm probably asking the wrong questions here though, since this is the Command & Conquer universe we're talking about.
Just a guess, but they may have been used for propaganda purpose. At some point, Nod realized that a robot face made it harder to get denizens of Red and Yellow Zones into thinking Nod actually cared about them and ultimately joining the Brotherhood than a human face even though both bodies were just as souless.
I don't know if there's a lore explanation, but there are many reasons I can think of, for one having an abomination of flesh and metal can be scary asf (just look at the awakened concept art or the Firestorm Reapers' cinematics), so *psychological warfare*, specially if they are mutant-humans (like the ones from Project ReGenesis or the ones from TibSun) or dead ones (the Marked of Kane, probably the Reapers as there's a cut cinematic where there's one with a human skull and no flesh).
You also have the problem of the AI's, despite how advanced EVA is, it's still pretty basic compared with CABAL (who used both robotic components and literally human minds/brains), so there's probably some problems with machine/software-only units, or maybe they aren't as clever/tactical as the cyborgs and the controlled-drone units (like the "Mantis")
Their human minds certainly retained some memory of the Nod religion. Pairing that with the AI/biological interface, and you had a soldier that literally believed in the input code received. Fear was stripped away. Certain biological functions no longer impeded their efforts.
Essentially, they were terminators derived from a prior living soul and iron framework.
I took over the GDI base first, then woke up the cyborgs, whoopsie! XD
6:24 the Dark trooper gen 3.
I know this is an old video and probably covered by now, but I think the reason is that Kane was linked with Cabal at parts along with other people but his cyborg initiative is likely exactly what cabal did but without Kane's forethought and his full understanding, the "rebellion" was likely a fall back plan should the leaders of Nod prove to troublesome for Kane at some point, a built in failsafe, but Cabal saw the in fighting and the betrayals as the things to set the protocols into motion, Cabal did not rebel against Kane, he rebelled against the incompetent leaders left behind, every single time Kane leaves, the toddlers destroy everything.
great content! thanks
How this channel didn't reach a million subs already idk but everyone go sub, I did and I think you are a great creator
Perfect
If a proper C&C sequel was made, and CABAL returned as a playable faction, it would be interesting if Slavik too returned from the dead as a cyborg commander under CABAL.
*That would be tragic as fuck!* :'(
Homie defended the Brotherhood from the cybernetic menace, only to end up as one of them in the end!
@@MrDibara That's how twisted I'd imagine CABAL would be.
@@BBBHuey *True, that A.I. **_would be_** this vindictive.*
_Jesus Christ, now I'm fearing for General Cortéz as well..._
Nod can acquire Awakened via an ability called Redemption, right?
ngl, my fave part of playing marked was spamming particle upgraded venoms lol
not sure about what you said about tib troopers- judging by their voice and how they look they're probably cyborgs but they're probably less augmented and probably have free will unlike awakened and enlightened.
Is there any future, id love to see it
ONE VISION. ONE PURPOSE.
From the moment i understood the weakness of my flesh…
Tip Trooper vs scrin is funny
The technology of Peace.
Our will is kanes
CYBER ZOMBIES. WOW
KANE AMD LIGEND KNOWS HOW TO MAKE A AMRY.
YOU VERY SKILL WITH YOUR VIDEO.
In the name of kane!
One vision. One purpose.
Peace
Through
Power!
In the name of Kane!
funny thing if you foolow the in universe lore Legion is not just a new AI he is infact the first one built before KABAL one that was made to fully merge with the Alien tech and only loyal to Kane the issue was that when merged with the person it needed time to fully merge with them it needed to learn so the commander you play as in the games as nod is legion in that you are both human and AI merged into one this allows you to both remain loyal to Kane when KABAL takes over the other AI and also allows you to live for so long your the greatest Achivement made in Kanes AI research
Cybernetic Enhancements = Cyborg
Well if you have cybernetic hand you technically become cyborg
@@abdulazis400 That is my point.
KABAl knew about them but was unable to control them as they were not linked to his system and where they were was known only to Kane and a few trusted people no one else even knew about them they were already to be deployed when the other AI legion was able to be fully deployed this led to them being unable to be used by Kabal
Song name at 4:08?
I have theory affect why that Siberian Trooper affect the screen different one are they using a modified one Siberian liquid
I think your auto correct is messing with you, Siberian Tropper and Siberian liquid
Your desires? Are you presuming yourself as Kain heretic!
I was actually just quoting what Kane says at the start of the Kane's Challenge game mode that was in Kane's Wrath. Unfortunately, that game mode was only available on the console versions.
@@JethildVery well keep up the good work brother.
P.S. I just found your channel and I do enjoy your C&C content. Hope you get around to talking about mutants and Tiberian-creatures some day.
@@tomatlars Yep I'll eventually get to those topics too.
My first cnc game was cnc 4 and i really like it but now I see these deep lore understand why that was so underrated by fans. It really be good if someone explain more about cnc4 and why fans don't accept that as cnc game.
Short story Command & Conquer 4 isent Command & Conquer. First of Command & Conquer needs three things base building, resource gathering and no unit cap. C&C4 have no base building no resourse gathering and a unit cap of 50
@@Groza_Dallocort you are right he is black ship of series.
This is yet a big plot hole that makes the Marked of Kane's existence very questionable. CABAL and Kane shared their knowledge, what Kane knew, CABAL knew as well. So it's impossible that he wouldn't have known about the Marked. It was just an addition for the sake of another sub-faction for Kane's wrath, which is unfortunate because I actually do like the idea, it begs the question, why even make use of the corpses of the fallen if the whole point is not have human emotions? Why not just make machines that are 100% fully obedient to Kane's will only?
Ofcourse Cabal knew of the marked of Kane he helped make them. Tho they werent to be used intill the right time was at hand. What Cabal used was the already existing and in used cyborg units with no higher purpose.
Cabal either didn't know the marked of kane existed or simply didn't know where they were.
Peace through Power!!
...now at Trump rallies they have that on their signs -.- its crazy!
Did Cabal go rogue though?
I wonder how CABAL and the scrin would have interacted...
Ahh the sleepy bois
Yo vivo- redentor
Gimme marked of Kane with the venom craft super charged laser capictor upgrade and its all over
IN THE NAME OF KANE
What do you mean by Kane kept it a secret from his own brother ... He doesn't have a brother and even if we go by the biblical derivation, Abel is long dead
Interesting. But despite their history with cyborgs and CABAL, NOD still use tons of cyborg during the ascension conflict. I mean, all will consider it not a cannon but too me, the units and their lore in C&C4 quite interesting.
We dont mention C&C4