I feel like Zeke's upbringing in Montana somehow explains his interest in older games, like he hasn't gotten out of the habit of being years behind the rest of the world.
I love when Zeke has time to speak in the podcast lol. This was hilarious and his stories were great to listen to. We need a full Zeke story segment haha
JP, Dragon Ball Z is indeed more early 90s than late: the Cell saga was in 1992/93 and the Buu saga was in 1994/95. DBZ was localized as soon as 1990 in my region, less than a year after its start in Japan. So yeah, it's old as hell :)
"I dont get how the writing is so good in jrpgs and not western developed games" maybe has to do with how we get called nazis everytime we call out shit dialogue and writing in modern games. Atlus wants to write a good story, bioware wants to please their shareholders
horror is a more social genre of media than others IMO. i could never get that into it. it's not that the stuff is too scary, it's just that i don't understand why it's interesting or entertaining. i'm legitimately horrified for the future IRL
I'm almost completely the same as JP with the horror genre! I'm so so happy to hear other people also read up on the story and stuff of horror movies/games because often it's super interesting, but they can't handle it themselves!! I also like watching deep dives by creators like amandathejedi or neverknowsbest I'm not alone ! horray ! 🎉😂 JP there's at least two of us 😄
should be fine, this isn't a zoomer scream-cast where everyone screeches and interrupts each other. ask zen a question, then just wait for several seconds, nothing difficult really.
As a parent, thank you for sharing the Roblox news. We are constantly engaging with our kids and will often limit what and how, but it's difficult when it seems "everyone is doing it."
I have an irrational fear of the mothman. Not because he'll kill me, but because seeing him means he's chosen me to see a future disaster, and having to warn and convince everyone.
Sadly while it's new to you guys probably the thing about Roblox being infested with pedophiles isn't. Hell I think even MoistCritikal has done videos regarding it a couple times over the years. The problem is most people simply don't give enough of a crap, and the owner has changed the ToS and EULA to state that he is not responsible for what goes on in his platform, nor is he responsible for policing it or making it safe or anything of the sort. I think one of Charlies videos even talks about how the owner of Roblox himself is a groomer. I could be misremembering that last part though but I know there's something not good about that guy floating around the internet.
Tbf those remakes were like shopped out to 3rd party studios by 2k and if i rember properly the smallstudio who did them were only known for making ds shovelware and porting a few sports titles so blame 2k for not vetting the team and giving the job to the lowest bidder
it's an actual idea that kind of requires and benefits from the existence of phones. diablo immortal being on phones only serves blizzard. diablo existed for two decades before it needed to be on mobile all of a sudden
I got about 80 hours in TCG card game sim and man my most expensive card was 4800. Getting that ghost card foil worth 10k+ is like a 0.02% It's insanely low.
I'm older than all of you and have been a DB fan since the 80s, when it actually came out. DBZ was n the 90s. Over here in Belgium, DB, Sailor Moon, Saint Seyia and all other popular Anime were accessible at most a year behind Japan, because we had channels from all over Europe accessible. The most prog in terms of anime was French TF1.
@@minutmed33 even cooler is that during summer holidays, the Club Dorothée group and several artists that came on the show went on tour trough Belgium and France and did live shows. They were at the camping we spent our summers 3-4 times while I was there. Arianne was my first crush and I think even pretty much shaped my "type" as I always end up falling for feisty short brunettes that can sing XD (ps, Arriane died in 2019, aged 61, of cancer :() As for more Belgians, I bet there's more than you'd think :) Even in the EU we're much less of a minority than most of us seem to think. Out of the 27 countries, we're 8th most populous and in terms of contributions to the world, you'd be surprised too. From one of the biggest mass murderers in history, to BMI, the actual WWW, JPEG, Asphalt, the original internal combustion engine, Neoprene synthetic rubber, the Atlas ICBM and plastics we've caused enough depravity, harm and destruction to mankind to play with the big boys :p
-Sad to say. even though I know virtually nothing about Roblox, I was reading about the pedophilia and other child exploitation problems in Roblox a few years ago.
Wish they included how violent and disgusting child are in that report. Some of the roblox thing is either based on old data or they are lying because i checked many of the these things before and found out all of the things u said at the beginning wiped a while ago. Yes they have a moderation problem but they are acting like they are far worse then any other social platform.. Most of the "experiences" that has abstractly sexually themed titles are troll worlds being used to clickbait people that knows about them and their content is opposite of "sexual". and other %1 of them don't stay live that long. "1 million visits" those visits are not unique so it's impossible to know the actual number. "yeah but since they are not moderating it well they won't be taken down right away if nobody reports it" yeah they don't because they enjoy it. not every person who is joining those worlds are +20. You guys probably don't know since u have nothing to do with the kids these days or analyze their behaviour on social platforms but many kids are vile. if i had a kid the second thing that i would be afraid of after pedos would be kids. Roblox is as dangerous as any other social platform on the internet. Pedos, violence, sexual harrasment are everywhere, it doesn't matter where. And education is the way bigger problem. Kids that has good parents won t have any of those problems anyways. NOTE: I wouldn't make my kid play Roblox alone either, because the risk is not worth it. like many other things
With Halo, it’s more so the botched release, the failure to have local co-op or more co-op online options perhaps. And their ability to have enough content available to keep things fresh and interesting not even to say constant releases but on release it was just underwhelming. When you first engage the player base you have to be able to keep that engagement cause once you lose it it’s hard to keep them coming back you can’t be like hey come back in a year we’ll have more. It’s gotta have that variety right away. Where multiplayer was super crippled the amount of maps. The big features taking time and more time to release it’s too little at any given moment. That’s where the issue lied and they chalked it up to the engine. So hopefully moving to unreal 5 does keep the feel of halo but they can give that to us all at once. From what I understand if you were to take the time to get back into it it’s possible there’s enough there now to where players would actually really buy into it again and like how far it’s come. The player base has simply moved on though.
Yeah Atlus game all have weird enemy design, it’s based on some novel or something from way back in the day. I like it because it feels unique but it’s definitely not for everyone, kinda like horror game monsters sometimes.
@@James-u1y for shin megami tensei and persona, the design is based on their interpretation on worldwide mythology and folklore. You can search up any of the Demon's name on Google and it will show you the myth. For Metaphor, the design is inspired by Hieronymus Bosch and his painting.
All I'll say is don't let that 1 thing disuade you from it. I hate the tropey, fantasy jrpg style, but everything else is so good that it's worth it for me.
Halo definitely feels like an IP that's been run to death. Halo 3 was a good ending point. Some games that cover the other parts of the war period were interesting. But going after 3 was just clear low quality money grab by people who didn't understand what made it good.
I have both the original official run Frostmourne and Doomhammer released by Blizzard over a decade ago. They are kinda shit compared to the battleready replicas I have. Only buy these originals for the cred of having the official ones. Otherwise get a good replica instead.
The sunderfolk game just has been done multiple times, and it looks dated. Daemo is probably the best version this. And it lets you do more of a dungeon crawl type thing.
whenever i hear bruce talk about how he played the persona games it makes me laugh, its like watching a movie for 10mins then saying its a great movie (hes only played like 5 hours or so of 3 and 5) hes worse then max when it comes to beating games
I think Atlus has stated that Persona 5 Royal was the last Royal/definitive version they will ever do and are instead going to an expansion/DLC game plan, this game will be the first where they are gonna try it on. So you should be good, unless they were talking out of their ass. Which is a possibility.
As the person above stated, it seems they won’t be doing that very often anymore. So at least we won’t have to purchase entire new games anymore but it’ll just be a DLC with the changes. A little more consumer focused if not priced out of the dimension of reasonability.
It's kind of funny seeing how Bi-polar the two sections about Halo are (in my opinion) in this episode. the first chunk about the move to UE5 is interesting and how upset they get about people talking/complaining about DEI and what not. the Second chunk is about how there are only 2 good episodes in the Halo TV series. Which was toted by the actors for being diverse and inclusive. I Wish them Luck with what they choose to do next with their franchise but i'm in the Wait and See group
Phishing means the emails from the courier companies trying to fish you for your login details etc. Hack is an unauthorized access when they get onto a server with said details (or by other means). I think JP just mixed the two up or something.
Stopping in 4 years after the good content ended on this channel is kind of sad. I can't imagine the thought process behind the decision to abandon the fun Rollplay series that built this channel (and the fans of it), just to replace it with boring, generic video game podcasts like this.
Tbf about the new atlus game like nobody knows about it i like atlus and smt and stuff didnt hear a peep about it from any of like the different normal sources i normally get info from idk if it was like advertised on steam or something cause my steam machine has been down but i frequent podcasts stream highlights and news videos and untill you mentioned it on last show this game didnt exhist atlus was off screwing around making smt remakes or persona 6 for all i knew right and i cant be the only one cause i feel like there should be huge hype around it after persona 5 and to a lesser extent the most recent smt game but radio silence besides you guys
Honestly, I think it's you. I have seen it around quite a lot. And now even bigger UA-camrs you wouldn't expect checked it out, like Asmongold. Metaphor sold 1 million copies in a day. The fastest a game has ever sold 1mil for Atlus. And people are definitely raving about it.
Zeke, you forgot to add ALASKA to the "we're behind the times." We may have been even a year behind Montana. I'm guessing this is fading with the internet, but there's still a bit of delay...
Sending positive vibes and all my love to the Carnage family. Rest in Peace, Gary-kun.
Which pet was Gary?
@@enlightendbel snail.
I like some of the convos they had outside the gaming topics. Some nice lore from the streamers lol 👍🏽
Is it my imagination, or does it sound like Zeke's voice is recovering a bit?
I feel like Zeke's upbringing in Montana somehow explains his interest in older games, like he hasn't gotten out of the habit of being years behind the rest of the world.
I love when Zeke has time to speak in the podcast lol. This was hilarious and his stories were great to listen to. We need a full Zeke story segment haha
Best of vibes to Cohh and his family, it is so hard to lose members of your family back to back. Great show, love all the tangents.
1:02:30 Zeke giving the silent knowing nod to his chat as if to say "Yes, I heard it too."
Damn, you're gonna get Zen on your next DF?
Let's (and I mean it) fucking go.
ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
JP, Dragon Ball Z is indeed more early 90s than late: the Cell saga was in 1992/93 and the Buu saga was in 1994/95. DBZ was localized as soon as 1990 in my region, less than a year after its start in Japan. So yeah, it's old as hell :)
I love the segment "old guys learn what Roblox has been doing for a decade"
The "skip by overpower" thing has existed a long while. Like 90s JRPG long while.
2:15:55 Silent Hill 2 is completely standalone game with new story and new characters ;)
Zeke takin me back with the Darkwing Duck nostalgia. Best Saturdays ever.
"I dont get how the writing is so good in jrpgs and not western developed games" maybe has to do with how we get called nazis everytime we call out shit dialogue and writing in modern games. Atlus wants to write a good story, bioware wants to please their shareholders
I find it funny how people are just now finding out about Roblox.
Wait until they find out about discord.
And minecraft
wait until they hear about the government
Asking Zeek for his friend group to show up on the podcast is how we'll end up with TheHappyHob.
TV show writers have a hardon for ruining game IPs. Their overall track record and public disdain for game IPs is pretty clear.
just another day in the demoralization process that is living in the west in 2024
Thankfully we get a gem once in a while like The Last of Us. Few and far between though.
horror is a more social genre of media than others IMO. i could never get that into it. it's not that the stuff is too scary, it's just that i don't understand why it's interesting or entertaining. i'm legitimately horrified for the future IRL
I'm almost completely the same as JP with the horror genre!
I'm so so happy to hear other people also read up on the story and stuff of horror movies/games because often it's super interesting, but they can't handle it themselves!! I also like watching deep dives by creators like amandathejedi or neverknowsbest
I'm not alone ! horray ! 🎉😂
JP there's at least two of us 😄
and edit hearing zeke talk about yakuza, I feel if he wants to give an anime a chance he'd probably love gintama
Would be great to have zen on, not sure how good it's gonna work with the delay from her speech conversion though.
should be fine, this isn't a zoomer scream-cast where everyone screeches and interrupts each other.
ask zen a question, then just wait for several seconds, nothing difficult really.
As a parent, thank you for sharing the Roblox news. We are constantly engaging with our kids and will often limit what and how, but it's difficult when it seems "everyone is doing it."
I have an irrational fear of the mothman. Not because he'll kill me, but because seeing him means he's chosen me to see a future disaster, and having to warn and convince everyone.
mothman isn't real, dude.
"We could beam things into your dreams"
Well... Time to build that Faraday cage bed....
1:24:00 Kind of looks like Descent: Journeys in the Dark but more automated.
I went to see the mist on my 14th birthday with a bunch of my friends, it was a bummer pizza dinner after
Zentreya? Like, the Vtuber?
Alien Isolation best version, oddly enough, is on PS4 with mic mode and head tracking active. Sneeze wrong and your dead.
Sadly while it's new to you guys probably the thing about Roblox being infested with pedophiles isn't. Hell I think even MoistCritikal has done videos regarding it a couple times over the years. The problem is most people simply don't give enough of a crap, and the owner has changed the ToS and EULA to state that he is not responsible for what goes on in his platform, nor is he responsible for policing it or making it safe or anything of the sort. I think one of Charlies videos even talks about how the owner of Roblox himself is a groomer. I could be misremembering that last part though but I know there's something not good about that guy floating around the internet.
charlie thinks it's ok to medically transition minors
@@foreignuser_ Yeah but having a shit take is a lot different than diddling kids.
Outlast had such a strong beginning, but the scaryness turns quite fast into samey repetition. The tension does not last.
pt was insane and kojima is making a new scary game
look. TCG card shop conversation is very fun. Idk why the anger last week happened really.
People loved ODST, let us just follow the path of normal soldier somewhere during the war, maybe overhearing the exploits of master chief from others.
Wow Jp's Fedex package is missing also. How dare they steal our packages that we have never ordered lol
1:36:45 maybe they asked ChatGPT to summarize the story for them 😅😁
Tbf those remakes were like shopped out to 3rd party studios by 2k and if i rember properly the smallstudio who did them were only known for making ds shovelware and porting a few sports titles so blame 2k for not vetting the team and giving the job to the lowest bidder
Sunderfolk does look interesting to me, but it's not JUST "don't you guys have phones?" it's "doesn't every person in your household have phones?"
Eon Alter was pretty fun with friends. Im going to wishlist this for sure.
it's an actual idea that kind of requires and benefits from the existence of phones. diablo immortal being on phones only serves blizzard. diablo existed for two decades before it needed to be on mobile all of a sudden
You can pretend DEI doesn't exist all you want but taking one look at Halo Studios chief of staff quotes says everything
Mech warrior 5: clans on the 17th too!
Day one game pass
i love bruce.
TubGrub sounds like an Idiocracy reference... Give it two years and it will be a real thing
I love it when Dropped frames does wacky outros. Jericho as TB still hasn't been top yet as far as I've watched.
I got about 80 hours in TCG card game sim and man my most expensive card was 4800. Getting that ghost card foil worth 10k+ is like a 0.02% It's insanely low.
JP's PT horror story got me shook.
it's also the other way for me with scary stuff, movies kinda scare me, but games terrifies me senseless and stuns me so i can't do them lmao
I'm older than all of you and have been a DB fan since the 80s, when it actually came out. DBZ was n the 90s.
Over here in Belgium, DB, Sailor Moon, Saint Seyia and all other popular Anime were accessible at most a year behind Japan, because we had channels from all over Europe accessible.
The most prog in terms of anime was French TF1.
Indeed, dear compatriot, Club Dorothée was the shit back in the days ;) Kinda nice to know other Belgians watch Dropped Frames too!
@@minutmed33 even cooler is that during summer holidays, the Club Dorothée group and several artists that came on the show went on tour trough Belgium and France and did live shows. They were at the camping we spent our summers 3-4 times while I was there.
Arianne was my first crush and I think even pretty much shaped my "type" as I always end up falling for feisty short brunettes that can sing XD
(ps, Arriane died in 2019, aged 61, of cancer :()
As for more Belgians, I bet there's more than you'd think :) Even in the EU we're much less of a minority than most of us seem to think. Out of the 27 countries, we're 8th most populous and in terms of contributions to the world, you'd be surprised too.
From one of the biggest mass murderers in history, to BMI, the actual WWW, JPEG, Asphalt, the original internal combustion engine, Neoprene synthetic rubber, the Atlas ICBM and plastics we've caused enough depravity, harm and destruction to mankind to play with the big boys :p
imagine is zeke got Man on but he's completely off the grid at this point.
-Sad to say. even though I know virtually nothing about Roblox, I was reading about the pedophilia and other child exploitation problems in Roblox a few years ago.
Wish they included how violent and disgusting child are in that report. Some of the roblox thing is either based on old data or they are lying because i checked many of the these things before and found out all of the things u said at the beginning wiped a while ago. Yes they have a moderation problem but they are acting like they are far worse then any other social platform.. Most of the "experiences" that has abstractly sexually themed titles are troll worlds being used to clickbait people that knows about them and their content is opposite of "sexual". and other %1 of them don't stay live that long. "1 million visits" those visits are not unique so it's impossible to know the actual number. "yeah but since they are not moderating it well they won't be taken down right away if nobody reports it" yeah they don't because they enjoy it. not every person who is joining those worlds are +20. You guys probably don't know since u have nothing to do with the kids these days or analyze their behaviour on social platforms but many kids are vile. if i had a kid the second thing that i would be afraid of after pedos would be kids. Roblox is as dangerous as any other social platform on the internet. Pedos, violence, sexual harrasment are everywhere, it doesn't matter where. And education is the way bigger problem. Kids that has good parents won t have any of those problems anyways.
NOTE: I wouldn't make my kid play Roblox alone either, because the risk is not worth it. like many other things
With Halo, it’s more so the botched release, the failure to have local co-op or more co-op online options perhaps. And their ability to have enough content available to keep things fresh and interesting not even to say constant releases but on release it was just underwhelming. When you first engage the player base you have to be able to keep that engagement cause once you lose it it’s hard to keep them coming back you can’t be like hey come back in a year we’ll have more. It’s gotta have that variety right away. Where multiplayer was super crippled the amount of maps. The big features taking time and more time to release it’s too little at any given moment. That’s where the issue lied and they chalked it up to the engine. So hopefully moving to unreal 5 does keep the feel of halo but they can give that to us all at once. From what I understand if you were to take the time to get back into it it’s possible there’s enough there now to where players would actually really buy into it again and like how far it’s come. The player base has simply moved on though.
When I first heard of Metaphor I was interested, as soon as I saw the boss design I decided it was too weird and walked away.
Yeah Atlus game all have weird enemy design, it’s based on some novel or something from way back in the day. I like it because it feels unique but it’s definitely not for everyone, kinda like horror game monsters sometimes.
Your loss, I think. It's a pretty fantastic game.
@@James-u1y for shin megami tensei and persona, the design is based on their interpretation on worldwide mythology and folklore. You can search up any of the Demon's name on Google and it will show you the myth.
For Metaphor, the design is inspired by Hieronymus Bosch and his painting.
The boss designs are from a 1490's painting called Garden of Earthly Delights.
All I'll say is don't let that 1 thing disuade you from it. I hate the tropey, fantasy jrpg style, but everything else is so good that it's worth it for me.
well we have a issue you cant say roblox games about shooting people is bad but then say kids playing violent games is fine
Halo definitely feels like an IP that's been run to death. Halo 3 was a good ending point. Some games that cover the other parts of the war period were interesting. But going after 3 was just clear low quality money grab by people who didn't understand what made it good.
I have both the original official run Frostmourne and Doomhammer released by Blizzard over a decade ago. They are kinda shit compared to the battleready replicas I have. Only buy these originals for the cred of having the official ones. Otherwise get a good replica instead.
Apparently the VR version of Isolation is… too much.
The sunderfolk game just has been done multiple times, and it looks dated.
Daemo is probably the best version this. And it lets you do more of a dungeon crawl type thing.
Parapgrasing Pat and Woolie: This game is a Metaphor for racism!
whenever i hear bruce talk about how he played the persona games it makes me laugh, its like watching a movie for 10mins then saying its a great movie (hes only played like 5 hours or so of 3 and 5) hes worse then max when it comes to beating games
I've used my phone as my alarm l for like 2 decades now.
As for the dream recordings, sounds like another route to a minority report dystopia.
I'm fucking broken on all the diddy shit I legit though he said "call of diddy"....
You should get this person of the vtuber space called Ray Narvaez Jr lol
I want to buy Metaphor but Im afraid Atlus will release 'Royal /Vengeance' version.
I think Atlus has stated that Persona 5 Royal was the last Royal/definitive version they will ever do and are instead going to an expansion/DLC game plan, this game will be the first where they are gonna try it on. So you should be good, unless they were talking out of their ass. Which is a possibility.
@@ravenwolf2746source?
As the person above stated, it seems they won’t be doing that very often anymore. So at least we won’t have to purchase entire new games anymore but it’ll just be a DLC with the changes. A little more consumer focused if not priced out of the dimension of reasonability.
@@ravenwolf2746Didn't they already do that with the P3 remake too by making the Answer a dlc instead of a new game?
As someone who didn't play Halo, the TV show was pretty great.
It's kind of funny seeing how Bi-polar the two sections about Halo are (in my opinion) in this episode.
the first chunk about the move to UE5 is interesting and how upset they get about people talking/complaining about DEI and what not.
the Second chunk is about how there are only 2 good episodes in the Halo TV series. Which was toted by the actors for being diverse and inclusive.
I Wish them Luck with what they choose to do next with their franchise but i'm in the Wait and See group
My deepest condolences to cohh and his family.
Have Crendor on.
Phishing means the emails from the courier companies trying to fish you for your login details etc.
Hack is an unauthorized access when they get onto a server with said details (or by other means). I think JP just mixed the two up or something.
Stopping in 4 years after the good content ended on this channel is kind of sad. I can't imagine the thought process behind the decision to abandon the fun Rollplay series that built this channel (and the fans of it), just to replace it with boring, generic video game podcasts like this.
$50 is not a lot for a really good game nowadays, I'm surprised it's not $70
If you're looking for a vTuber, try and get Neuro-sama on the show. 🙂
Oh god
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Tbf about the new atlus game like nobody knows about it i like atlus and smt and stuff didnt hear a peep about it from any of like the different normal sources i normally get info from idk if it was like advertised on steam or something cause my steam machine has been down but i frequent podcasts stream highlights and news videos and untill you mentioned it on last show this game didnt exhist atlus was off screwing around making smt remakes or persona 6 for all i knew right and i cant be the only one cause i feel like there should be huge hype around it after persona 5 and to a lesser extent the most recent smt game but radio silence besides you guys
Honestly, I think it's you. I have seen it around quite a lot. And now even bigger UA-camrs you wouldn't expect checked it out, like Asmongold.
Metaphor sold 1 million copies in a day. The fastest a game has ever sold 1mil for Atlus. And people are definitely raving about it.
@itmeJP “ughhhh” words “ughhhh.” I liked the video but please. Work on not saying ugh in every sentence.
Don't work for shady companies
Zeke, you forgot to add ALASKA to the "we're behind the times." We may have been even a year behind Montana. I'm guessing this is fading with the internet, but there's still a bit of delay...